DJ, I want you to know I shared this video with as many people as possible - not because I love Urza, but because I agree %110 with your approach to deck building and building for fun not just abusing power.
He's pretty solid. 2 Undying creatures with Yawgs and a Blood artist/lifegain effect. Gerald's Messenger is the best. Loop the Undying triggers‚ draw deck your entire deck‚ while stabilizing with lifegain (Zulaport or Blood artist is ideal)and black rituals. Discard your hand with an Ulamog to loop again and drain the table‚ it's very similar to Gitrog in that regard. Apart from that‚ run black hate en masse and just about any mono black combos can fit right in (reanimator tricks are still amazing and work well with the Ineffable) and ironically enough Yawgmoth works wonders with Walkers‚ especially Liliana of the Dark Realms hiting her ultimate right away‚ which is just magnificent. Special mentions to breath of Phyrexia and Gate to Phyrexia. Not only are they flavorful but are super useful artifact killers in what amounts to an aristocrats combo deck.
Update: So my Urza deck is powerful without the lockout effects. No Orbs, no Trinisphere, the only thing I lock people out of is extra mana from Blinkmoth Urn and extra cards from Howling Mine. Plus it opens the avenues for politics with said cards. Now, is it still powerful. Oh, yes. Have won more than lost with it in testing. Today I get to play with it for real having busted the card in a pack last night. Super excited. Thank you for helping me craft a version of the deck that is good to play and good (for the most part) to play against.
Awesome work DJ as always! Love all the ideas and most importantly I love the fact that you encourage people to build their own version or a most enjoyable version to play against. Keep up the good work. Regards from Australia 🇦🇺 👍
guillaume gerotto I always encourage people to build fun versions of decks. It’s like with Oathbreaker gaining popularity, so many people go straight to talking about Ral, Storm Conduit. Infinite combos just don’t feel like fun to me. I like peoples’ life totals gradually being reduced and not, “oh, and now I win.”
Thanks for the deck tech DJ! I’m actually testing Urza tonight (obviously proxied) and my version is not gonna lock everyone out. Kinda like the Aggro artifact/fun side of the deck.
I appreciate your point about making a fun deck over a tier 1 powerful deck. That's a super valid and very important point. Thanks very much for the informative video. I think I'll give Urza a miss, personally. He does just seem to be the 'win with me, promtly' commander and I'm not all big on that. Also a toned-down mono blue combo deck just isn't the sort of deck I'm all about.
Great video. It addresses my exact problem with Urza; I really wanna like him but it's almost impossible not to fall into the boring paradox auto-win. He's so powerful and at the same time so restricted. If he was a couple bucks go ahead, build a jank deck, but he's not cheap and you end up paying a lot of cash for a boring deck, or a fun deck that never wins. Your take of "a bit of stax, a bit of thopters" seems really fun and out of the expected. And it doesn't use the soon to be very very banned paradox engine. Kudos.
Similar to yours with the Wide and Tall strategy was EXACTLY my idea. I have been waiting for an urza card since the first time I read through the Thran novel when I was in college. The spin I am putting on it is throwing in some extra turns and time-manipulation effects for that tolarian flavor. I am going to popping a few treasures from my freshly broken Teferi Planeswalker EDH deck (including maybe Teferi himself) And who knows maybe a Blind Seer if I still have one ;) Great deck tech and an awesome point about not going straight to the CEDH combo-heavy infinite heavy version unless it can be handled.
Hey DJ, you mentioned having a Selesnya EDH deck that has a bunch of combos in it. Have you done a video on that deck, or have a deck list available? I've been working on a Selesnya EDH deck full of a bunch of janky combos but with a very low curve. If possible, I'd love to see what you've got going in your deck for some ideas. Thanks!
To me it feels a bit like Saheeli, the Gifted. Basically your spells cost less for every artifact you control, but you can divide it up and the mechanic is a little less clunky, and not attached to a walker, something that can wear boots.
People saying Urza will be banned make no sense to me personally. He's certainly tier 1, no question asked. But here's the thing. Is he truly better then every other tier 1 commander that currently exists? And by a good margin? In my eyes, no, no he isn't. I don't think he's so much better then Tymna-thrasios for example. I think he's at the same level of power as those commanders. So we should not have to worry about building Urza if we intend to play him with other people who also use tier 1 or 2 decks that are really powerful. As long as you also carry a fun deck on you, it should be fine. I'm building Urza so I stand a better chance against my friends who do have very powerful decks. But I also have my Sram deck if we aren't using those power level of commanders.
@@Ragmesesis people won't even run or run into the broken cedh urza. The majority of the playerbase are too poor for cedh so it shouldn't be a problem to them
Yes and you might have changed my mind on version was planning a stronk cEDH but the beat down sounds too fun to pass so maybe both. There is a markov deck I need to beat the breaks off of so why the comp version was a thought.
Thank you for the insights on how to build Urza not to wreck face. I hate infinite combos, they feel broken and a little icky to me, so having some ideas on how to power down Urza, if you will, was much appreciated! I'm a total Timmy player and I'm really looking forward to playing a lore focused Urza and Karn artifact deck :D Cheers
pili pala+hearstone+urza= infinite mana Basalt monolith+rings of brighthearth = infinite mana (colorless) Emry, lurker of the loch+ lotus petal+ mirran spy = infinite mana this is what I used but I'm adding these too
@Dragon Fist could you explain the combos please? i only recently started cedh so I got a decklist off tappedout and built it. it probably isn't even cedh, but it was budget enough for me. here is the decklist: tappedout.net/mtg-decks/the-lord-high-artificer-urza/
Do you think you could do a Serra oathbreaker deck tech? I really enjoyed all of your oathbreaker deck techs and was just wondering if you could do a few oathbreaker deck techs as well as EDH.
I am currently working on a beat down deck with a potential of pulling off Enter the Infinite and winning the game off of the back of Aetherflux Reservoir! Coping Aetherflux Reservoir up to seven times, is super gross and charges super quickly. I love Urza!! He is my favorite Blue Commander!!
So any spot removal just makes this deck unplayable? He seems like a kill on sight commander Also, isn’t thrasios already an infinite mana sink? And it also allows you to flash hulk? And you don’t have to worry about hitting lands and your combo doesn’t work
Despite being a 4-drop you will always have mana for counter magic after you cast him and pass the turn. Due to all the asymmetric stax and flexibility he provides he'll definitely have a place in the meta. I mean he's the only mono blue commander I can think of that can win using plan A with a Null Rod/Stony Silence in play.
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Hey jumbo, Could you run a similar deck using emry? I'm trying to figure out different ways to build her and I really like your aggressive artifact style. Basically if I replaced Urza with emry, would I have a similar result?
Urza is so freaking nuts. I built a list for tuned, non-cEDH tables and despite omitting infinite mana, rocks over $10, free counters, Time Walks, Wheels and Expropriate, it still just goes OFF.
DoubleHelixGamer Brudiclad is the deck of mine that I have the most fun with. Having Urza in mono-blue seems like a nice change, but so often in the last week I’ve been thinking, “oh darn, that’s got red in it...”
Hey man swan song isn't infinite by itself. Once you have infinite mana with urza you can play your whole deck. So you need swan song plus a variety of other cards that can get a card back from your graveyard or shuffle your graveyard back and keep playing it. Lots of things can do this but swan song is popular because it is so useful prior to going infinite. Personally I would just throw in like a lab maniac or jace so you win when you run out of cards or blue sun zenith or something. BSZ also useful outside going infinite and is reusable to kill each opponent once you do. I think he just didn't explain it because a bunch of difference CEDH decks already use it in a similar way maybe?
@@regaleagle6533 thanks for the response. So, say you go infinite with dramatic scepter, then you need some way to recur swan song from the graveyard while looping through your deck. In theory you'd need something like an elixir of immortality and then what? You just want to loop the elixir and counter one of your own things with swan song, and just repeat that infinitely? I've heard other people talking about making infinite tokens with swan song before urza was even a thing, I've never had it explained to me or been able to figure out how it works tho. I feel like I'm missing something obvious.
@@derekwalter4238 there is different ways to do it but I think the spend whatever you want competitive version is like timetwister, swan song, anything swan song can counter and something that can recur timetwister. I don't know how many budget options exist to shuffle your library and yard together without exiling.
Make the max power version and Get a new Meta. Lol I’m making a really powerful version for sure, Urza deserves the best. I am gonna take a peek at the cedh list but I already put together a sweet combo list for him. True all of these combos have always been around but Urza like Breya (my favorite commander) can have many different styles of decks. They are perfect combo enablers.
What do you do when everyone you play with is Cedh players that know all the plays and constantly target urza. And do everything to stop you generating inf mana? Because thats basically game over for urza right ? Especially power scepter build.
I think this artifacts matter aggro build looks like so much fun. I think you are right, many will build him like this oppressive control shell. So If this list isn't very pricy I'll maybe buy it, but first I want to buy something really evil and mean. Mono Black Mikaeus the unhallowed combo. Everyone knows how it works, you go infinite with so many cards in the deck and when one of your combo pieces is in the command zone its kinda broken. or mayby Yawgmoth infect, thats always good right? the thing with Yawgmoth is, Mikaus goes so well with him that he's in the deck too.
Mixing the two aggressive with stax pieces. I play in a mixed meta. The power level is all over the place so I want to allow people to play by toning down the stax elements and limiting the combos. I get the feeling even then. I think he will be extremely powerful.
I honestly don't know if I want to run Stax, because while I will have to play against it at some time (like last week in my local tournament), most of the decks people run in my local meta is fair. maybe I'll run a bunch of Artifact discounters and run Temporal Fissure to make it kinda stax but not really.
My urza list is going more spell slinging heavy. Gonna try to use it like i've seen the jeskai narset used with like 6+ extra turn spells, lots of 1 mana draw spells, lots of cheerios and 1 mana artifacts with general value. 2-3cmc artifacts are more creatures with value and ramp, gonna use Sai, Lab Maniac, new Jace as one win con. Maybe traumatize and Mirrodin Beseiged as another. Then new ugin, new narset, tezz seeker, new and old karn, the artifact tutor mages, snapcaster mage, the 1cmc bird that scrys off historic spells. Lots of X card draw, new finale just not paying the x=10 to get 9 cards off 11 mana is feasible. Windfall, Jace's achivist, Ponder, Opt, Fact of Fiction, Preordain, dig through time, future sight, treasure cruise. Neurok Stealthsuit is pretty cool to add in to protection suite of lightning greaves and swiftfootboots which can all mana rock as well as pay for activations of eachother when all out.
Urza's last ability says that "you may PLAY that card", isn't it different than to "cast" the spell you exile? Im not sure but im just wondering if the paradox engine triggers from that ability Never mind, just checked rules and you are correct, my bad :D
onni raunio Another reason it reads that way - Lands are not spells, you can't cast them. You play them. If it read cast then the land would be permanently exiled 😆
So many great ideas, but in my group this guy would just not be fun, If I open him, ill just put him in Jhoira's 99, menacing, but not game ruining on his own.
Feels like a public service announcement to avoid getting him banned and I have to say it would indeed be such a shame for us to only use him for a few months. Keep promoting peaceable play :P
Tapping Static Orb, etc, at the end of opponents turn - how is that useful? You start your turn by untapping everything anyway so Orb will be active... How does the timing work here exactly?
Well during your opponents turn, since static orb is untap, so your opponents can only untap up to 2 permanents. If you activate Urza first ability then you can tap static orb during your opponents end step and product 1 blue mana. Since before your untap step your static orb is not untap so you untap all your permanents not only up to 2. After your untap step, static orb is untap again so your opponents untap up to 2 permanents again assume they don’t have a way to tap or remove that static orb
When you have static orb and winter orb out and you use urza to tap at the end of opponents turn would you still only get to untap two permanents? Iv been looking for a ruling on it
Yes. You can activate Urza's ability on the opponent's end step to tap it, and then it will be tapped at the beginning of the untap phase, allowing anything to be untapped... for you. 😁
I knew it I’m just having a hard time convincing people In my play group that it works that way cause winter orb says it but static orb don’t and that’s there argument about the hole thing
Leyline of Anticipation is on the field. Hold open 7 mana, and do nothing. Let your opponents play till someone goes for a wincon. Flash in platinum angel. Laugh maniacally. (Also run stuff like darksteel forge and padeem for protection)
For me personally, I think this is the BEST breakdown for Urza. I just built him and I wanted to build him as a casual commander. Thank you for posting this!❤
I definitely don't want to build the optimal combo-oriented Urza. Between my Simic Untappy Elves deck and my Brago deck, I already have more than enough combo. I'm gonna give it some time and see if I can come up with something different, but I might just leave the Urza deck alone and stick him in another artifact deck for some extra value instead.
People may say I'm wasting him, but I kind of just want him in the 99. Yes he could be a great if not the best artifact Commander, but I want to be able to use the card as well as keep my friends lol.
I'd argue that he's actually more broken with access to other colors... toss him in with a Thopter foundry/sword of the meek combo is infinite mana, etb, sac, and Urza activations...
The problem with me is that my playgroup and I don't really see eye to eye. I enjoy competitive decks and want to build them. My playgroup does not, preferring to stick to their own rigid idea of what fun is. That is to say, jank and "fair Magic." So I'd really like to push the power on Urza, but I'm limited in terms of how strong I can allow him to be since the group doesn't like that kind of power (or doesn't understand it). I don't know for sure how they'll respond to what I build, considering that they don't see the same power that I do in Urza, but... They have gotten really worked up over a Kumena, Tyrant of Orazca deck in the past so I don't have high hopes.
You might want to decide what’s more important to you of the following: Winning with overpowered decks and maybe losing your playgroup or adapting and play fair decks and have actual fun for everyone.... I’d choose the latter if i were you.
Very similar cards and combos I ran in my Arcum Dagsson deck, and really swapping the commander, and the creature / Flute package, it feels like the same deck with the same win-cons. great deck, just nothing new.
Ok, so somebody is going to have to explain to me what he means by "infinite 2/2 birds from swan song". I understand that you can counter your own spell to create a bird for yourself, but i do not know what he means by creating an army of birds for yourself. idk if this was a mistake, or if i am just not seeing something obvious.
Urza combo ls just a memnarc combo list with like 5 cards changed. It's faster, but I dont think it's better than teferi. Teferi doesnt need infinite mana to win. There's a thousand decks that just win with infinite mana. The stacks deck looks dumb, though
Dont get me wrong, it's going to be a great deck, but not tier one. I mean, I've seen great memnarc decks and this is just more powerful memnarc. Yawgmoth is kinda flying under the radar. Urza is probably stronger, but Yawgmoth combos easily as well. 2 undying creatures and you have a yawgmoth's bargain, you know, the second best card draw in the game, only behind ancestral recall. I play mikaeus and I think hes a better commander, but Yawgmoth is in the 99.
Looking forward to the summer of:
"Oh , I'm not a powered version, this is FUN Urza, I promise"
Voltron Urza! Each Equipment has basically -1 equip cost. :D
@@Robert-vk7je i would love to see that deck xD
XD
Same as Prosh the season he came out
That’ll be the day xD
"Oh he's competitve level broken!"
-See $8700 price tag
"Nah fam I'm good"
Best way to do it :D
90% of the budget is in 5-10% of the deck though. Cut timetwister and drop $3000 from the price
That deck would be like less than $20 if you only use proxies.
Most of the cost is actually Tabernacle. Which can be easier swapped out for Pendrell Mists.
lmao me the fuck too
DJ, I want you to know I shared this video with as many people as possible - not because I love Urza, but because I agree %110 with your approach to deck building and building for fun not just abusing power.
Lmao, so easily broken that even a casual edh channel can't go full casual XD
Play him in a deck without any artifacts? :P
Urza's -5 is from an artifact from Urza's Saga, Temportal Aperture
Nice I'll use this in my Yawgmoth artifact deck as an infinite mana/untap sink just to copy Urza
THANK YOU! I said the same thing. It always annoys me when I hear people calling it Mind’s Desire.
Technically not a "-5" cause he's not a planeswalker and it's not a loyalty ability.
First TH-camr with the Urza Deck Tech! That's why I'm tuned to Jumbo Commander! Thanks DJ!
This is not true people have already done him
Sir, the command zone exclusive was not a deck tech and as such doesn't count.
@@mageofwar5438 cedh tv did a deck tech
@@hive_mind5869 yeah I've already seen a number of youtubers cover this already. Admittedly less polished than this though.
Even with the ban of Paradox Engine, this deck is still pretty powerful.
I’m hoping for a Yawgmoth deck tech next
So agreed. Would love to see what his ideas are on the new Yawgmoth.
Yawgmoth is on pretty much the same level as urza and is a cheaper build overall
He's pretty solid.
2 Undying creatures with Yawgs and a Blood artist/lifegain effect. Gerald's Messenger is the best.
Loop the Undying triggers‚ draw deck your entire deck‚ while stabilizing with lifegain (Zulaport or Blood artist is ideal)and black rituals.
Discard your hand with an Ulamog to loop again and drain the table‚ it's very similar to Gitrog in that regard.
Apart from that‚ run black hate en masse and just about any mono black combos can fit right in (reanimator tricks are still amazing and work well with the Ineffable) and ironically enough Yawgmoth works wonders with Walkers‚ especially Liliana of the Dark Realms hiting her ultimate right away‚ which is just magnificent.
Special mentions to breath of Phyrexia and Gate to Phyrexia. Not only are they flavorful but are super useful artifact killers in what amounts to an aristocrats combo deck.
@@papanurgle8393 also look at xenic poltergeist, and desiccated tomb and 1 undying creature is infinite
Great deck tech! Skullclamping your mana rocks is hands down one of the hottest synergies in that beatdown build of yours.
anybody else at least giggle when hear about a "sharding" sphinx
Lol he sharted
Worse i have one
Dude. Every time.
I've been waiting so long for him, can't wait to receive my card and build it!
He mentioned labratory maniac
7:05 but he didn't mention jace, weilder of mysteries.
when youtubers recommend other youtubers, everyone wins go lab manics
Update: So my Urza deck is powerful without the lockout effects. No Orbs, no Trinisphere, the only thing I lock people out of is extra mana from Blinkmoth Urn and extra cards from Howling Mine. Plus it opens the avenues for politics with said cards. Now, is it still powerful. Oh, yes. Have won more than lost with it in testing. Today I get to play with it for real having busted the card in a pack last night. Super excited. Thank you for helping me craft a version of the deck that is good to play and good (for the most part) to play against.
Could you do Sisay Weatherlight Captain please
Please do a yawgmoth Deck Tech next
Awesome video! I actually pulled urza and the first sliver card in packs I just opened ! You should do slivers next! This set is great for commander
We were 4 with one box each, we did not open any Urza or first sliver...
Got to like your luck!
Awesome work DJ as always! Love all the ideas and most importantly I love the fact that you encourage people to build their own version or a most enjoyable version to play against.
Keep up the good work.
Regards from Australia 🇦🇺 👍
guillaume gerotto I always encourage people to build fun versions of decks. It’s like with Oathbreaker gaining popularity, so many people go straight to talking about Ral, Storm Conduit. Infinite combos just don’t feel like fun to me. I like peoples’ life totals gradually being reduced and not, “oh, and now I win.”
This video saved me a lot of money! 😂 I was going to build a mean version but yes you are right, this will kill my play group.
Thanks for the deck tech DJ! I’m actually testing Urza tonight (obviously proxied) and my version is not gonna lock everyone out. Kinda like the Aggro artifact/fun side of the deck.
I appreciate your point about making a fun deck over a tier 1 powerful deck. That's a super valid and very important point. Thanks very much for the informative video.
I think I'll give Urza a miss, personally. He does just seem to be the 'win with me, promtly' commander and I'm not all big on that. Also a toned-down mono blue combo deck just isn't the sort of deck I'm all about.
Knowing my luck the first time that I would play Urza an opponent would be playing a Lavinia, Azorius Renegade deck
You can play Trinisphere and Sphere of Resistance effects to ignore her last ability and her first ability just doesn't do very much.
Great video. It addresses my exact problem with Urza; I really wanna like him but it's almost impossible not to fall into the boring paradox auto-win. He's so powerful and at the same time so restricted. If he was a couple bucks go ahead, build a jank deck, but he's not cheap and you end up paying a lot of cash for a boring deck, or a fun deck that never wins. Your take of "a bit of stax, a bit of thopters" seems really fun and out of the expected. And it doesn't use the soon to be very very banned paradox engine. Kudos.
Finally I've found a use for skullclamp. I can tap it for mana. It's a decent equipment after all.
Lol good joke
@@adambuechler9130 that bit was so good I did a double take
yawgmoth is realy ok in comparaison to urza give him credit !
Similar to yours with the Wide and Tall strategy was EXACTLY my idea. I have been waiting for an urza card since the first time I read through the Thran novel when I was in college. The spin I am putting on it is throwing in some extra turns and time-manipulation effects for that tolarian flavor. I am going to popping a few treasures from my freshly broken Teferi Planeswalker EDH deck (including maybe Teferi himself) And who knows maybe a Blind Seer if I still have one ;)
Great deck tech and an awesome point about not going straight to the CEDH combo-heavy infinite heavy version unless it can be handled.
Deadeye Navigator + Urza you mentioned making a construct for one.... but if you have a Panharmonicon, you get to put out two constructs for free ;)
Passing on Urza. Yawgmoth next!
Hey DJ, you mentioned having a Selesnya EDH deck that has a bunch of combos in it. Have you done a video on that deck, or have a deck list available? I've been working on a Selesnya EDH deck full of a bunch of janky combos but with a very low curve. If possible, I'd love to see what you've got going in your deck for some ideas. Thanks!
I feel like he can't be built on a fun level for your opponents
To me it feels a bit like Saheeli, the Gifted. Basically your spells cost less for every artifact you control, but you can divide it up and the mechanic is a little less clunky, and not attached to a walker, something that can wear boots.
Well most of my friends have op decks. So I'm going to be getting my revenge
This is just madness…this Urza has so much value
Great Deck Tech! But you know what we are all waiting for! Yawgmoth is our hero. Make please video with him as the commander!
Lets see you try making a deck tech for Hogaak, Arisen Necropolis
Also the BGM of choice there is truly epic when it comes to Urza
Archenemy URZA
My boi yawgmoth better be next
Very very good commander!
People saying Urza will be banned make no sense to me personally. He's certainly tier 1, no question asked. But here's the thing. Is he truly better then every other tier 1 commander that currently exists? And by a good margin? In my eyes, no, no he isn't. I don't think he's so much better then Tymna-thrasios for example. I think he's at the same level of power as those commanders.
So we should not have to worry about building Urza if we intend to play him with other people who also use tier 1 or 2 decks that are really powerful. As long as you also carry a fun deck on you, it should be fine. I'm building Urza so I stand a better chance against my friends who do have very powerful decks. But I also have my Sram deck if we aren't using those power level of commanders.
People normaly dont play TNT, Shimmer Zur, Chain Teferi, paradox Sissay, Kess Storm, Najeela, Food Chain Tazri and Gitog Monster.
@@usernameunidentified175 she is a 5 color commander because of her ability
@@Ragmesesis people won't even run or run into the broken cedh urza. The majority of the playerbase are too poor for cedh so it shouldn't be a problem to them
@@L00rdAjduk So Crypt Ghast is a 2 color card because of its ability?
@@usernameunidentified175 Crypt Ghast isn't a legendary so can't be used or counted as a commander.
Yes and you might have changed my mind on version was planning a stronk cEDH but the beat down sounds too fun to pass so maybe both. There is a markov deck I need to beat the breaks off of so why the comp version was a thought.
Can't wait to pick up my foil urza friday!
Also and don't take it the wrong way but I love to listen to your videos to fall asleep... Your voice is so comfy ^^.
Thank you for the insights on how to build Urza not to wreck face. I hate infinite combos, they feel broken and a little icky to me, so having some ideas on how to power down Urza, if you will, was much appreciated! I'm a total Timmy player and I'm really looking forward to playing a lore focused Urza and Karn artifact deck :D Cheers
pili pala+hearstone+urza= infinite mana
Basalt monolith+rings of brighthearth = infinite mana (colorless)
Emry, lurker of the loch+ lotus petal+ mirran spy = infinite mana
this is what I used but I'm adding these too
@Dragon Fist could you explain the combos please?
i only recently started cedh so I got a decklist off tappedout and built it.
it probably isn't even cedh, but it was budget enough for me.
here is the decklist:
tappedout.net/mtg-decks/the-lord-high-artificer-urza/
@Dragon Fist i like to make it funner for the group too though, so ill change it
Do you think you could do a Serra oathbreaker deck tech? I really enjoyed all of your oathbreaker deck techs and was just wondering if you could do a few oathbreaker deck techs as well as EDH.
I am currently working on a beat down deck with a potential of pulling off Enter the Infinite and winning the game off of the back of Aetherflux Reservoir! Coping Aetherflux Reservoir up to seven times, is super gross and charges super quickly. I love Urza!! He is my favorite Blue Commander!!
"~Naow before you attackhh"
I built Urza stax, because not only do I like playing magic, I like not having fun.
So any spot removal just makes this deck unplayable? He seems like a kill on sight commander
Also, isn’t thrasios already an infinite mana sink? And it also allows you to flash hulk? And you don’t have to worry about hitting lands and your combo doesn’t work
I agree.. he will be nuked on site i call it the Kaalia of the vast effect people will just save the removal for it
Despite being a 4-drop you will always have mana for counter magic after you cast him and pass the turn. Due to all the asymmetric stax and flexibility he provides he'll definitely have a place in the meta.
I mean he's the only mono blue commander I can think of that can win using plan A with a Null Rod/Stony Silence in play.
I like the beatdown version. It allows me to be my usual red player self, but in blue.
Ryan Cauffman it makes me think of mono-green with a little white mixed in.
Please do a morophon shapeshifter deck
Behold the Lord High Ar-ti-ficier! A personage of noble rank and ti-i-tle! A dignified and potent officer, whose functions are particularly vital! DEFER! DEFER!
Hey jumbo,
Could you run a similar deck using emry? I'm trying to figure out different ways to build her and I really like your aggressive artifact style. Basically if I replaced Urza with emry, would I have a similar result?
His 5 hability isn't Mind's Desire. Is a repeatable Temporal Aperture... (And he is in the card btw.)
Urza is so freaking nuts. I built a list for tuned, non-cEDH tables and despite omitting infinite mana, rocks over $10, free counters, Time Walks, Wheels and Expropriate, it still just goes OFF.
I'm looking forward to throwing urza into my janky Brudiclad artifact token deck. Basically DJs deck but with goblins Morphin into thopters.
DoubleHelixGamer Brudiclad is the deck of mine that I have the most fun with. Having Urza in mono-blue seems like a nice change, but so often in the last week I’ve been thinking, “oh darn, that’s got red in it...”
6:41 can someone explain how this infinite swan token thing works? DJ just mentioned it but didn't explain how it works and I can't figure it out.
Hey man swan song isn't infinite by itself. Once you have infinite mana with urza you can play your whole deck. So you need swan song plus a variety of other cards that can get a card back from your graveyard or shuffle your graveyard back and keep playing it. Lots of things can do this but swan song is popular because it is so useful prior to going infinite. Personally I would just throw in like a lab maniac or jace so you win when you run out of cards or blue sun zenith or something. BSZ also useful outside going infinite and is reusable to kill each opponent once you do. I think he just didn't explain it because a bunch of difference CEDH decks already use it in a similar way maybe?
@@regaleagle6533 thanks for the response. So, say you go infinite with dramatic scepter, then you need some way to recur swan song from the graveyard while looping through your deck. In theory you'd need something like an elixir of immortality and then what? You just want to loop the elixir and counter one of your own things with swan song, and just repeat that infinitely? I've heard other people talking about making infinite tokens with swan song before urza was even a thing, I've never had it explained to me or been able to figure out how it works tho. I feel like I'm missing something obvious.
@@derekwalter4238 there is different ways to do it but I think the spend whatever you want competitive version is like timetwister, swan song, anything swan song can counter and something that can recur timetwister. I don't know how many budget options exist to shuffle your library and yard together without exiling.
Are you going to do a deck tech for sisay? Ive been working oh her a lot and id love a chance to bounce idea off another mind
Just finished my Urza EDH deck. Haven't even gotten a chance to play test it yet. Hopefully I didn't go all out on it.
Price tag $550 Lol
His 5 cost activation is NOT Mind’s Desire... it’s Temporal Aperture. Which is actually the card Mind’s Desire was designed off of.
A lot of people calling it commander masters, but Battlebond was the first commander masters
Hey everyone, I'm a little curious how the infinite swan thing works. Can some one explain it to me please?
Honestly, in a beatdown artifact deck, I'm still running Saheeli, the Gifted as my general.
Why not Sai?
I'm greedy and want access to red.
You can splinter twin Karnstructs if you do Deadeye Navigator + Urza + Panharmonicon
Wouldn’t that be infinite Karn bots?
Panharmonicon can also be Paradox Engine or Mycosynth Lattice
@@joshpetit44 that's what he said
the last ability is temporal aperture
Make the max power version and Get a new Meta. Lol
I’m making a really powerful version for sure, Urza deserves the best. I am gonna take a peek at the cedh list but I already put together a sweet combo list for him. True all of these combos have always been around but Urza like Breya (my favorite commander) can have many different styles of decks. They are perfect combo enablers.
Exactly. He deserves the best.
Unreal as per usual
I should hope Urza doesn't create Shenanigans, otherwise we'd be blowing up artifacts and dredging!
How does the swan song combo work?
James Stead I’m trying to figure that too. I searched but can’t find anything on it.
What do you do when everyone you play with is Cedh players that know all the plays and constantly target urza. And do everything to stop you generating inf mana? Because thats basically game over for urza right ? Especially power scepter build.
I think this artifacts matter aggro build looks like so much fun. I think you are right, many will build him like this oppressive control shell. So If this list isn't very pricy I'll maybe buy it, but first I want to buy something really evil and mean. Mono Black Mikaeus the unhallowed combo. Everyone knows how it works, you go infinite with so many cards in the deck and when one of your combo pieces is in the command zone its kinda broken. or mayby Yawgmoth infect, thats always good right? the thing with Yawgmoth is, Mikaus goes so well with him that he's in the deck too.
Mixing the two aggressive with stax pieces. I play in a mixed meta. The power level is all over the place so I want to allow people to play by toning down the stax elements and limiting the combos. I get the feeling even then. I think he will be extremely powerful.
I honestly don't know if I want to run Stax, because while I will have to play against it at some time (like last week in my local tournament), most of the decks people run in my local meta is fair. maybe I'll run a bunch of Artifact discounters and run Temporal Fissure to make it kinda stax but not really.
Urza, deadeye, intruder alarm, panharmonicon. Infinite dudes
Well the Last ability doesn't recall mind's desire but temporal aperture, an invention of Urza
Goes into my FUN version of Jhoira :D
I just realize that Pili-pala and Urza actually goes infinite with each other without the need of Grand architect
This post didn't get the credit it deserved
Nah this was already mentioned
My urza list is going more spell slinging heavy. Gonna try to use it like i've seen the jeskai narset used with like 6+ extra turn spells, lots of 1 mana draw spells, lots of cheerios and 1 mana artifacts with general value. 2-3cmc artifacts are more creatures with value and ramp, gonna use Sai, Lab Maniac, new Jace as one win con. Maybe traumatize and Mirrodin Beseiged as another. Then new ugin, new narset, tezz seeker, new and old karn, the artifact tutor mages, snapcaster mage, the 1cmc bird that scrys off historic spells. Lots of X card draw, new finale just not paying the x=10 to get 9 cards off 11 mana is feasible. Windfall, Jace's achivist, Ponder, Opt, Fact of Fiction, Preordain, dig through time, future sight, treasure cruise. Neurok Stealthsuit is pretty cool to add in to protection suite of lightning greaves and swiftfootboots which can all mana rock as well as pay for activations of eachother when all out.
Urza's last ability says that "you may PLAY that card", isn't it different than to "cast" the spell you exile?
Im not sure but im just wondering if the paradox engine triggers from that ability
Never mind, just checked rules and you are correct, my bad :D
onni raunio Another reason it reads that way - Lands are not spells, you can't cast them. You play them. If it read cast then the land would be permanently exiled 😆
Where are the links to the decklists?
Question, can urza's 2nd ability (tap an artifact created a blue mana) benifit from illusionists bracers ?
So many great ideas, but in my group this guy would just not be fun, If I open him, ill just put him in Jhoira's 99, menacing, but not game ruining on his own.
Feels like a public service announcement to avoid getting him banned and I have to say it would indeed be such a shame for us to only use him for a few months. Keep promoting peaceable play :P
Tapping Static Orb, etc, at the end of opponents turn - how is that useful? You start your turn by untapping everything anyway so Orb will be active... How does the timing work here exactly?
Well during your opponents turn, since static orb is untap, so your opponents can only untap up to 2 permanents. If you activate Urza first ability then you can tap static orb during your opponents end step and product 1 blue mana. Since before your untap step your static orb is not untap so you untap all your permanents not only up to 2. After your untap step, static orb is untap again so your opponents untap up to 2 permanents again assume they don’t have a way to tap or remove that static orb
Thank you, @@michaelwong5102! This makes sense now.
@@filipkevely no problem
When you have static orb and winter orb out and you use urza to tap at the end of opponents turn would you still only get to untap two permanents? Iv been looking for a ruling on it
Yes. You can activate Urza's ability on the opponent's end step to tap it, and then it will be tapped at the beginning of the untap phase, allowing anything to be untapped... for you. 😁
I knew it I’m just having a hard time convincing people In my play group that it works that way cause winter orb says it but static orb don’t and that’s there argument about the hole thing
Got only storage matrix, to only play when im behind and isochron cepter and unwind as my combo with codex shredder. Rest is beat down
Leyline of Anticipation is on the field. Hold open 7 mana, and do nothing. Let your opponents play till someone goes for a wincon. Flash in platinum angel. Laugh maniacally. (Also run stuff like darksteel forge and padeem for protection)
For me personally, I think this is the BEST breakdown for Urza. I just built him and I wanted to build him as a casual commander. Thank you for posting this!❤
Hey my boy jumbo you okay? Your voice sounded a bit sadder to me. Is it cause urza is too broken?
The last ability is more like Temporal Aperture without the tap restriction
I want to throw together a five-color hidden Urza deck with the new Sisay. Playing cards like the newer Jhoira, Sram, Puresteel Paladin, and the like.
I definitely don't want to build the optimal combo-oriented Urza. Between my Simic Untappy Elves deck and my Brago deck, I already have more than enough combo.
I'm gonna give it some time and see if I can come up with something different, but I might just leave the Urza deck alone and stick him in another artifact deck for some extra value instead.
Blinkmoth Urn is insane in the deck also cuz u can tap it to turn it off for opponents! It makes so much mana!
you can also use howling mine in the same way. and if you have no soul, static orb and winter orb to deactivate them before your untap step.
People may say I'm wasting him, but I kind of just want him in the 99. Yes he could be a great if not the best artifact Commander, but I want to be able to use the card as well as keep my friends lol.
I'd argue that he's actually more broken with access to other colors... toss him in with a Thopter foundry/sword of the meek combo is infinite mana, etb, sac, and Urza activations...
@@andrewamann8855 yeah your not wrong. Just have to drag him out of the 99 though.
The problem with me is that my playgroup and I don't really see eye to eye. I enjoy competitive decks and want to build them. My playgroup does not, preferring to stick to their own rigid idea of what fun is.
That is to say, jank and "fair Magic." So I'd really like to push the power on Urza, but I'm limited in terms of how strong I can allow him to be since the group doesn't like that kind of power (or doesn't understand it).
I don't know for sure how they'll respond to what I build, considering that they don't see the same power that I do in Urza, but... They have gotten really worked up over a Kumena, Tyrant of Orazca deck in the past so I don't have high hopes.
You might want to decide what’s more important to you of the following: Winning with overpowered decks and maybe losing your playgroup or adapting and play fair decks and have actual fun for everyone....
I’d choose the latter if i were you.
Even the beatdown version will be very strong.
On the note of basalt monolith, Rings of Brighthearth goes infinite with it too
Very similar cards and combos I ran in my Arcum Dagsson deck, and really swapping the commander, and the creature / Flute package, it feels like the same deck with the same win-cons. great deck, just nothing new.
grand architect taps a blue creature, not an artifact creature
Ok, so somebody is going to have to explain to me what he means by "infinite 2/2 birds from swan song". I understand that you can counter your own spell to create a bird for yourself, but i do not know what he means by creating an army of birds for yourself. idk if this was a mistake, or if i am just not seeing something obvious.
Isochron scepter swan song and paradox engine i think.
Urza combo ls just a memnarc combo list with like 5 cards changed. It's faster, but I dont think it's better than teferi. Teferi doesnt need infinite mana to win. There's a thousand decks that just win with infinite mana. The stacks deck looks dumb, though
Dont get me wrong, it's going to be a great deck, but not tier one. I mean, I've seen great memnarc decks and this is just more powerful memnarc. Yawgmoth is kinda flying under the radar. Urza is probably stronger, but Yawgmoth combos easily as well. 2 undying creatures and you have a yawgmoth's bargain, you know, the second best card draw in the game, only behind ancestral recall. I play mikaeus and I think hes a better commander, but Yawgmoth is in the 99.