Nihilism and violence in Sonatine | BFI video essay

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  • @dee8739
    @dee8739 4 ปีที่แล้ว +224

    I just finished Sonatine. One of the best gangster films ever!!!

    • @jeremyh9841
      @jeremyh9841 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      its not a gangster movie

    • @kavijackson868
      @kavijackson868 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Perhaps, best anti gangster movie ever! While being subtle yet explicit as well as a sophisticated exaggeration of existential artistic foreplay that quietly and instantly escalates into a crescendo of literal $#¡¢¡DE for an ending as well as a cinematic nod and homage that suggests the electromagnetic energy that possibly gets dispersed when you die signifying the soul or spirit causing something some distance away like from the car he was in to the shores of the beach to be moved by some unseen phenomena ergo El Fin The End in the Most Chef's Kiss way possible put best by pointing out that when it comes to each and everyone of us even the planet itself we are but a small dot in this universe...! This movie is a Masterpiece! Thank you Aiko!

  • @GaxMiu
    @GaxMiu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    2:25
    i LOVE the nihilistic laugh of kitano... i'd love to known him before this films... to know a comedic actor sudenly turning so dark, and wonderful... damn

  • @mariuscheek
    @mariuscheek 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    This is one of the best quick analyses of Sonatine that I've ever come across. Nicework.
    One of my favourite films ever, from one of my favourite directors.

  • @The_Camera_Guy
    @The_Camera_Guy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    One of the best films of the 90s. I remember seeing it in the cinema in London and feeling a rush as the title came up. Truly awe inspiring cinema

  • @mpmcruz
    @mpmcruz ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Now I knows where Tarantino went fetch some ideas

  • @user-xc7uo6md3n
    @user-xc7uo6md3n 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I watched this tonight, it was amazing! I can't even describe the experience just watch this film already!

    • @GreenTeaViewer
      @GreenTeaViewer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      now try the rest of Kitano's if you haven't already...my favorite director

  • @baba-yoshino
    @baba-yoshino 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I will always remember him for his understated yet powerful あの夏、いちばん静かな海。

  • @greva2904
    @greva2904 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My favourite film! Finally released on blu Ray in the uk! Miracles do happen after all

  • @djjackyp2
    @djjackyp2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thank you for introducing me to his work!

  • @oxymoron9097
    @oxymoron9097 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    People pull the trigger without hesitation and die indifferently.
    Even if we cling to life like waves, death is always there, like a calm sea.
    Rather than a sense of despair leading up to annihilation, there is a clear beauty that cannot be expressed through dialogue alone.
    Personally, I think it's a masterpiece among Kitano's films, and I want you to see it before you die.

  • @SuperNitpicker
    @SuperNitpicker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Really insightful piece on Sonatine. One of my favorite movies.

  • @sgt.miltonosiris4490
    @sgt.miltonosiris4490 4 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    There is a nihilistic tone, gangster life and capitalism as a whole is nihilistic. However Kitano's films are not nihilistic but rather they are about Honour and "manliness" in the face of absurdity. It's not that Murakawa believes in nothing rather, he's disgusted with the world and everyone around him.

    • @Indietrix
      @Indietrix 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      I have to disagree - Murakawa retreats into an infantilised world in Sonatine, and although he '''wins''', it happens at great personal cost. I see it largely as a pastiche of those macho depictions of yakuza life, not as embracing it. Happy to debate it though!

    • @vishnu2407
      @vishnu2407 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not at all

    • @daijme
      @daijme ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Imagine being wrong on every topic you're trying to describe lol

    • @YungFondo
      @YungFondo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@daijmehaha

  • @MyDenis0
    @MyDenis0 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i like the atmosphere of this movies, they feel close,

  • @Ronindennis
    @Ronindennis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    My first Kitano film, must have seen it more than twenty times. The early movies had a rough, engaging edge that the later ones - HanaBi, Brother, Dolls - somehow lost somewhere.

    • @PrincessCupncake
      @PrincessCupncake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He got that rouge engaging edge back in spades for the Outrage trilogy. Kitano at his absolute best and most refined after decades of experience.

    • @missingmissmoss
      @missingmissmoss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Hana-Bi and Brother are classics though

    • @PrincessCupncake
      @PrincessCupncake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@missingmissmoss I was also surprised that OP said that about Hana-bi, because it's always been considered a classic Kitano. Honestly, I didn't find it as good as some of his other work. To each their own. I still have to get a chance to watch Brother. Know where it's streaming?

    • @GreenTeaViewer
      @GreenTeaViewer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PrincessCupncake Hana-bi seems like it SHOULD be the best Kitano film as it has all the trademarks. yet it lacks something

  • @BlackStar250874
    @BlackStar250874 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Has been in my shelves since early years of 2000, along with other films by Kitano, like HANA-BI.
    A real masterpiece, like so many his films.

  • @gelloyangsteryang6481
    @gelloyangsteryang6481 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    this is one of the best movies ever

  • @FixFilmsLtd
    @FixFilmsLtd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Excellent analysis of an intriguing film.

  • @Semibrucelee
    @Semibrucelee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Vic Romano is one hell of a director.

    • @JagiFrisbee
      @JagiFrisbee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Kenny Blankenship and Vic, Romanoooo!!!!

  • @saveapossum7195
    @saveapossum7195 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of the greats.

  • @WJJ1961
    @WJJ1961 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Unforgetable it is!

  • @sebastianpedone7209
    @sebastianpedone7209 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    El final! brutal, poetico, desolador, bello, violento, inolvidable, vive en mi.

  • @vermazing888
    @vermazing888 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great film with a superb soundtrack

  • @dhruvsmashhero741
    @dhruvsmashhero741 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's one of my favourite movies along with kakujio

  • @user-qr5jr3uo5c
    @user-qr5jr3uo5c 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    now I have to watch it, thank you

  • @undiscoveredpie5611
    @undiscoveredpie5611 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    GET THIS ON BFI PLAYER I BEG.

  • @lovewhenshe
    @lovewhenshe 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video bra this the typa shit a creator should take lots of pride thing

  • @nickbirkhead7238
    @nickbirkhead7238 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    casio abe's book on kitano is great if anyone wants to read about his films

  • @asdasd2da
    @asdasd2da 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    와 한국어 자막 감사합니다.
    Thanks for korean sub

  • @ハイパーこてつ
    @ハイパーこてつ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    映像だけでも、サウンドなしでも、なぜか、たけしさんの映画は観れます。 勇気をありがとう😊
    また、沖縄市でロケした映画🎬チーム北野で軍団で暴れてください。
           山城 徹

  • @BigBellyBrookes
    @BigBellyBrookes 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would also consider Hana-bi apart of this series of movies. It stylistically fits with them and really deconstructs the genre. For anyone interested, I would go in blind and watch these films first before watching it.

  • @mylescarew7529
    @mylescarew7529 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic video

  • @MrFStCtUK
    @MrFStCtUK ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant review, thanks.

  • @inactiveuser1981
    @inactiveuser1981 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My favourite of KItanos early works, where is a nice blu ray of this?

  • @Kulbir92
    @Kulbir92 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I fucking loved this Movie.

  • @weebdesu4973
    @weebdesu4973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved this movie

  • @bjornzek
    @bjornzek ปีที่แล้ว +1

    does anybody know how i can watch this film?

    • @Reverend_Nada
      @Reverend_Nada หลายเดือนก่อน

      Late… but was released on blu ray as seen at the end of the vid.

  • @GaxMiu
    @GaxMiu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:55
    "When you're scared all the time, you reach a point when you wish you were dead."
    he is not cool, or badass, he is scared shitless about the violenece of (his) world... he is deatched from reality or something like that, lol

  • @vividius7951
    @vividius7951 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Genius!

  • @leeteet3
    @leeteet3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you know when you have watched too much Kitano when you start to imitate his eye twitch randomly

    • @kuho0526
      @kuho0526 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      バイクの事故の後遺症だよ

  • @therantingboy
    @therantingboy ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn't mention Hanabi??

  • @GPHelpx
    @GPHelpx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best

  • @larzgim5250
    @larzgim5250 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    God be with you takeshi sed young bae

  • @maximilian3544
    @maximilian3544 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I disagree with most points brought up here but that's all subjectivity. What I'd STRONGLY argue against objectively is calling sonatine "nihilistic", someone claiming this can't have a proper understanding of the movie or movies in general for that matter. It's the exact opposite of nihilistic.
    Modern hollywood blockbusters are nihilistic at their core.
    Sonatine is a comtemplative movie about the human condition, which makes it as far removed from nihilism as possible. If you can't seperate themes from endorsements, unable to go beyond the surface level of a piece, you are not fit to analyse art, literature and movies.

    • @gavinmcintyre9553
      @gavinmcintyre9553 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The movie itself isn't nihilistic, but it certainly explores nihilism and absurdism as threads of existentialism- examining the human condition in a world without order or (intrinsic) meaning. Much of existentialism deals with creating or finding meaning in existence despite the lack of intrinsic/objective meaning. Absurdism tends to focus on both accepting an existence without objective meaning (so you don't mourn it) AND rebelling by pushing forth to create your own meaning anyway- in this way it deals heavily with suicide as an answer, but an unfortunate one. Nihilism (which Nietzche defined as a concept so that he could describe its danger) is falling into a lack of meaning due to the collapse of a moral framework, and thus giving up virtue and giving in to all sorts of nastiness, whether its violence, suicide, etc.
      We definitely see Murakawa wrestle with a pull into nihilistic fatalism (the guy on the crane, Russian roulette), but we also see him engage with the absurd by attempting to create meaning and joy in a purgatory-like setting (the beach safehouse). We also see his personal journey play out in a super absurd setting, where things happen often randomly or unprompted, cause and effect break down, and truth is lost (how often is he completely lying, like with the holes? how often is he maybe lying, like when he tells the woman he'll come back? Or did he tell her the truth in the beginning when he said it wouldnt be work coming to visit him, because he was already planning suicide?)

    • @Reverend_Nada
      @Reverend_Nada หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gavinmcintyre9553well said

  • @अंतर्मधनम
    @अंतर्मधनम 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kotano'd films are actually art or surrealistic films.

  • @dilatedindisbelief
    @dilatedindisbelief 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kinda surprised he got the pronunciation of the title wrong, given how easy it is to figure it out through an online search.

    • @GreenTeaViewer
      @GreenTeaViewer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it is sonna-teen, just as he says in the video. How do you pronounce it?

  • @klaudiuszlichocki3569
    @klaudiuszlichocki3569 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I doubt bout the nihilism, it's more kami/shinto freq 🙃

  • @supremegarbage9796
    @supremegarbage9796 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    北野映画は暴力でもって暴力を否定する。主人公も最後には自己完結させる。

  • @maximmonov8249
    @maximmonov8249 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tbh i found the movie rather boring and at times random. I guess i just don't get it

  • @secondcomingofziggle
    @secondcomingofziggle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So Nah Tee Nay tho

  • @ハイパーこてつ
    @ハイパーこてつ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    😂BFI

  • @ursweetsab
    @ursweetsab 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I enjoyed it at the beginning but it was so boring about half way through.

  • @daijme
    @daijme ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn I hate these AI voice overs, sounds so unnatural

  • @QBQBQ-w7m
    @QBQBQ-w7m 4 หลายเดือนก่อน