What Makes FCPREMIX A Great Song? - The Fall Of Troy
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Hello there, Steve here. In this video, I walk you through what I think makes FCPREMIX by The Fall Of Troy such a great song.
#mathrock #songanalysis
![The Fall of Troy - Ghostship Demos (FULL EP) [2004]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/6FJ80B9-p54/mqdefault.jpg)
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Hello you lovelies. Hope you find this one useful! Master the math rock finger tapping technique here 👉 bit.ly/3zKIcTY
One other thing. The chorus where I’m playing the chords under the lead, is actually a 12 string Rickenbacker! That’s what gives it that almost phaser, but not quite sound. Overall, phenomenal breakdown of one of my prouder moments in songwriting! :) 🤘🎸
Hey man, thank you for all the music that you've done.
Dude this song and it's "original" version are amazing!
thank you for your awesome music...and thank you for blessing my childhood hahaha i played MLB 2K6 and Guitar Hero 3 religiously in high school so i heard a loottttt of FCPREMIX....one of my favorite songs of all time
I’m new to your music, like just found out about The Fall Of Troy yesterday, but I already want to call you one of my favorite artist
You inspire me and I hope I can write anything as amazing as you one day :)
Hey man! Thanks for taking the time to analyze my song. That crazy effect I’m using all over and for the middle breakdown is an FM-4 filter/synth/mod by line 6. A couple effects I actually built myself within the pedal. It’s interesting seeing the song broken down so musically I thoroughly enjoyed it and keep up the good work mate!!!
- Thomas Erak (The Fall of Troy)
Hey Thomas! Almost missed these comments! Thank you for the info about the track. Makes sense now 😅
Thanks for sitting through my awkwardness. Haha! Want to say you've been a huge influence on the way I play guitar, in fact, it was The Fall Of Troy that lead me down the road of math rock so thanks for that! Fun fact I once played what sound does a masterdon make for a solo piece at university! Hope you have a great 2021.
Hit me up if you ever want to do a collaboration on anything 😉.
Thanks again.
Best,
Steve
Tomserak@gmail.com email me. I have a twitch show and it might be cool to have you as a Skype guest, have me interview you, and we could talk about Greah songs!
That would be ace! I'll be sure to send you an email 🙌 thanks
You play a mean guitar my man
Why’s it called fcpremix
That riff was like what got me into math rock its so good
Pretty much my beginnings too, that and at the drive-in are what led me.
Is the fall of troy considered math rock??
@@haydenquakenbush8626yeah, look up some of the time signatures for some of their songs. It’s all insane to comprehend, he’s also singing while playing guitar as well.
Next episode should be American Football - Never Meant
(if you wanna start the series with the big 'classics' of math rock)
Haha for sure. I'll see. I have to check what songs will get blocked if I try to use them.
I second this
you probably dont care but does anyone know a trick to get back into an Instagram account??
I somehow lost the login password. I would appreciate any help you can offer me
I agree with everyone else, I’d love to see more of this series. Thanks for all the hard work.
Thanks! I'll be sure to do so!
Gibbon by TTNG or Lake Sprinkle Sprankle by Delta Sleep
Chardee MacDennis seconded
Spy Dolphin could be nice too
Yes!
Nice! Two of my favorite bands. Some ttng or delta sleep would be great
@@LetsTalkAboutMathRock two of my favorites as well. My favorite tracks by them are "Triptych" and "Floater" so I'd love to see those, but I figured I'd suggest the most popular ones
Fall or Perfect pillow by Chon
Could go from Fall of Troy to Fall by Chon lol
Great series idea this genre needs more recognition.
Awesome stuff. A CHON song would be great!
I love Chon
@@donniedarkko422 everyone loves chon
And yes, Manipulator is a masterpiece, glad someone shares the same sentiment
Their best album!
Awesome! Yeah, I just like the album as a whole better. The guitar work definitely stands out more on Doppelganger but I feel like this album has better written songs in places.
@@LetsTalkAboutMathRock absolutely! Manipulator does so much differently too, you have the typical FoT sound but with some twists of an obvious Pink Floyd influenced track in Quarter Past and the Oh, the Casino! which, to me, sounds like early Weezer shaped that track. But, honestly, if Manipulator only had 1 song and it was A Man a Plan a Canal Panama, it would still be my favorite FoT album
I love the album, however, the mix is much weaker than the mix on Doppelgänger to me.
One album that literally has never left my rotation
I'd love to hear you do some more stuff from Doppelganger in specific, I think it's genuinely my favorite album of all time and I'd love to hear Mouths Like Sidewinder Missiles
I'll probs come back to this album at some point, as I said it has plenty of great songs. :)
Brother... This is incredibly well done. As a huge fan of TFOT, and a person struggling to self teach himself all of the details of music theory, this is something I have been looking ever since I started learning music theory. What an incredible breakdown. You earned my sub. If you ever just want to finish out that album, or any other of theirs (except the album that shall not be named), I would be eternally grateful. Keep up the excellent work man!
This is honestly the first math-rock song I ever listened to back when I was like 10 and guitar hero 3 came out, at the time I didn’t really care about this song in guitar hero but over time playing that game for hundreds of hours it grew on me. I didn’t even know this was mathrock, I didn’t find out till I started to do a shit ton of research into mathrock back when i found Chon in like 2013 and started to look into all the bands we know today in mathrock that are awesome.
Awesome stuff my dude. I think it was also one of mine, this album and relation ship of command by at the drive in is what led me into more mathy style bands.
literally me lmao
Same here, lol
So many great songs you could check out for a series like this. Really enjoyed this video!! Hope to see some algernon, glocca morra, or marietta in future videos! Keep up the good work Steve
Some kind of cadwallader would be a great song to break down :)
I really started to notice it lately but the slapback delay on vocals is so awesome and cozy in a way and it's cause it reminds me of being little and being at festivals or carnivals or faires and hearing live bands for the first time and it had that same sound as a live band it feels more human less polished I guess but it's brilliant definitely something I'd like to do with vocals. Also more stuff like this would be so rad
One of my most nostalgic songs by far. Just hearing that intro brings me back
You should do one of Algernon Cadwalladers songs! Something from some kind of Cadwallader
Not even especially related to this video but youre the most sympathetic person i've seen on youtube
I try to be mindful rather than be negative. Ain't easy though. Haha
Super awesome analysis for one of my fav math rock tracks.
Certainly enjoyed this a lot. Do more of these! I love how you uncovered the little nuances lost in the mix and the breakdown of each section. Learning the song and simultaneously learning about the song is good fun. Where did you get file? My vote for next track is something off Juturna from Circa Survive.
Thanks! It was a lot of fun and really interesting to discover the little things that go into a great song. I got the file from just searching for each thing separate, like FCPREMIX guitar only. From what I read, they were separated from the game guitar hero, haha!
This entire album is what inspired me to play guitar
Me too in many ways
Playing this since 2016 and i didn't even know wtf I was playing since today, ¡Amazing video! Hope you get to the top of TH-cam one day
Thanks! I'm busy working on a new one.
Great content! What an absolute classic this song is!
Thanks!
Now do wacko jacko! Lol we’d be here for 45 minutes
Or even better a man a plan.
Nah bruh Macaulay Mckulkin
@@UnorganizedWaffle fuck yea
Imo you should do Goodbye by toe next.
Great choice!
g u d o b a i d e s u
This is a great idea and I can't wait to see more! Keep it up!
Thanks! I'm really looking forward to making some more.
Most people don't know is that in intro riff, thomas does a quick tremolo chug between switching chords. If you watch live versions of FCP you can see him doing it.
Hey Alexander, I know he does this live, and on a play-though video he did but I'm pretty sure they aren't there on the recorded version.
I think one thing for you should be to not only record your mic, but also record the sound output of your pc, so the sample are clearer
Hey Chris, this is what I wanted to do but I couldn't set it up at the time. I had the individual tracks in my DAW and i tried to record the sound from my PC and guitar all at the same time but it gave my PC a seizure, need to upgrade that's for sure! haha
I would love more of these breakdown series!
Awesome! I'll get working on some more then. Thanks
I love attempting to play this song in Rocksmith.
I love ricks series and I love this too! I've wanted him to do tfot for ages (I don't know if he knows of them or not) so it was class to see this in my recommended and it sure delivered! In terms of other songs maybe like bubble dream and perfect pillow by chon, and (given a bit of time since you've already done an episode on them) more tfot would be cool
That's awesome, thanks. I'm real happy to see how many people that watch Rick's series are watching my channel too! Amazing. Thanks for the suggestion.
Loving this!
Keep up this good work, would be awesome to see a breakdown of a Tera Melos track.
Thanks for watching. I'd like to do a tera melos track, for sure
What kind of software are you using to isolate the parts? I could see that being VERY helpful in practice sessions!
I just started watching your channel yesterday, will get alot of views from me,lol..love it man,keep it up. And Rick won't mind,I'm sure you guys will be able to do your own thing and not step on his toes. Even if he did the same song once in awhile would be cool to see diff views on the same song once in awhile. Anyways, I'm also new into math Rock, but I've been a musician for a few decades..mainly just punk and metal..but I split my practice between drums,guitar,and bass, and record at home. If you ever need help with bass lines I may be able to oblige. Anyways, Faraquet is my recommendation for songs to cover,and would have to be their most popular song that you already had in your vid of 5 best intros from 99 to 07. Cut Self Not. They are the first band that got me into this stuff,so I am brand new to this genre, so anyone that reads this feel free to make recommendations for bands for me. Keep in mind I'm open to all math Rock bands, but I def prefer the more aggro ones more..atleast for now,which us why I'm on this video,lol. This songs pretty aggressive yet still has those "math Rock chords " and feel to math Rock totally. I know of Don Cab, Lynx, Battles, American Football, and Blink 182 as math Rock bands already. Let me know of others to check out.thanks!!
(If you didn't automatically click off this post whenisaid Blink 182 I'd be shocked, lol..was a joke of course.😁)
Finally you do this series Steve. Please do Melody 2, 4 or 5 from Tera Melos next
Gotta have a tera melos song for sure! I think I remember seeing that they offered certain albums as all individual tracks which will be awesome if that's true!
You ABSOLUTELY have to do They Speak with Strange Accents by This Town Needs Guns. AMAZING song. That whole EP is AWESOME
You should totally do Lake Sprinkle Sprankle or any Tiny Moving Parts song!
I think a Delta Sleep song would be great, and I've seen a few people suggest Lake Sprinkle Sprankle already. Thanks.
Just one word about this series, Steve - MORE!!!
Haha! Sure thing. I'm super glad everyone seems to be enjoying it.
act one, scene one would be awesome too
Only suggestion I have is to break down the vocal line as well. Great breakdown!
Thanks. There's a lot I missed out but I'll get better as I make more.
Please keep this series going! One bit of feedback for next time - the audio playback from the song is waaaaay too quiet and muddy.
I know you’re using the ambient sound of your speakers playing the song back in the room, but I think it’d go a loooong way towards getting to Rick Beato’s level if you either mic up your speakers, or overdub the clips from the song in post-production.
Don't worry it'll be better next time. Haha. I was playing it through my speakers and it was loud enough but the camera was slightly behind them so I think that's why. I'm looking at being able to record it directly for next time.
Awesome idea! Can you do an episode on Tiny Moving Parts?
I think always focused would be a cool one to do
For sure!
Slint - Breadcrumb Trail next!
The sound of animals fighting, a lot like birds, the number 12 looks like you, fear before the march of flames!!
The sound of animals fighting!!!!!!!!
I'd love to see at the drive in or brand new in this series
Two excellent choices^^
Do more FOT breakdowns!
Hey man, love the idea. I would LLOOVVEE you to analyse Floral Aquarius Theater. Cheers!
Thanks, and thanks for the suggestion.
Try Trident tail by tera melos . Their best song in my humble opinion.
Great video as always
Thanks man
Very cool vídeo. Would be great if the volume of the song and its different parts were higher in the next video.
Sure thing. That's what I was thinking. It was loud but the camera was slightly behind the speakers so it didn't pick it up so well.
Lmao, I love how in this live when the song plays you look like your trying really hard not to band your head and scream the words. Big mood
I know you probably have a lot of artists to cover besides Fall of Troy, but if you ever do another song by them I'd love to see one on I Just Got This Symphony Going.
Very cool that you listen to Enter Shikari
Nice! Yeah, I'm a big fan. Great lyrical content and some awesome songs.
Not really math rock but
I recommend
ling tosite sigure's（凛として時雨）
Kankaku ufo(感覚UFO)
Please make the next Fall of Troy song Cut Down All the Trees and Name the Streets After Them
Please do Lake Sprinkle Sprankle by Delta Sleep!!!!
Great choice! I'll see that I can do.
Suggestions:
Never Meant by American Football
Gibbon by TTNG
Goodbye by Toe
One Armed Scissor by At the Drive In
All fantastic suggestions!
Would love to see an analysis of Spy Turtle/Spy Dolphin by Delta Sleep as a longer episode someday
All We Need Is A Little Bit Of Energon by MMISL or Unicorns by Colour!
Two excellent choices!
wow this was epic
Thanks :)
Great video. One armed scissor next would be a good choice
Good choice :)
@@LetsTalkAboutMathRock You could get the individual tracks,as it was featured in Guitar Hero. I can send you the file in case you´re interested ;)
That'sawesome. I'll be in touch if I do! Thanks.
Any song by Three Trapped Tigers would be interesting to hear about!
Great serie !
If you want to do another The Fall of Troy song, could you take a look at A Man a Plan a Canal Panama?
FUCK YESSSS, didn't watch yet, but i know it's gonna be amazing.
You tricked me tho, i rly thought it would be Rick Beato i was like 'the hell? he knows TFOT??'
Hahaha, anyways, gonna watch now :)
Please do Foxing!
Great do Shellac next
Do you have a discord server or something? It'd be nice to communicate with others who are really into emo and math rock.
I love this
How did you separate the tracks?
I found them on the internet, people said they were separated in guitar Hero! haha
@@LetsTalkAboutMathRock yeah any song that's been on a guitar hero/Rockband game has to be separated tracks to be able to be accurately tracked by the game engine when they are charting it.
Hello Steve. Do you by chance know of any good luthier in Korea than can fix up a few guitars? I got my Godin and Tele set up at a music shop and it has ruined the action. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Hello! Thansk for the comment. I know of a place in Daegu called RockHouse www.rockhouse.co.kr
they have done a few things for me that I have been satisfied with.
please more!
Sure thing!
You should do an episode on "Sianvar's Omniphobia or sick machine"
Also, you never noticed the bass chords in bridge
You should also talk more about the rhythm! Especially that weird 3/16 bar at the end of every phrase in the bridge
You mean a a bar of 2/4 with 2 triplets, it was something I put in to talk about but missed it.
Let's Talk About Math Rock I’m talking about the section that starts at 2:03. If you listen carefully, it’s 3 bars of 3/4, and then 1 quick bar of 3/16. Essentially they are just chopping off 1 sixteenth note. Very cool stuff.
Gotcha, didn't read that you put bridge, sorry. I'll take a listen.
How to get a harmonic squeal without a plectrum??
The vocals don't actually get pitch shifted down and up at the end in the official song (I just checked on iTunes), maybe you got a slightly weird version of the tracks?
Hello. Yeah, I noticed that too after listening just a few days ago. I think the seperated track I got was just like that for some reason.
nice job
I'd suggest dissecting temple by floral, it was my favorite song for a while but you should probably do more well know stuff
They came through my town last week very sad I missed it. :((((((((((((
@@rabbitguy337 I'm crying. Out of sympathy.
You should check out the band Monobody
Hello again. I already have! I'm absolutely loving Raytracing at the moment, it's so good!
@@LetsTalkAboutMathRock yes, it's amazing! Wish I knew enough music theory to figure out their songs, but I don't even know the names of the chords I play lol
なるほど。大変勉強になったんだな。
というか、後ろにDelta Sleepがある。
8:49 If you sing the chorus along with this part it sounds like a country song lmao
Peggy by Orchards
Dope vid!
Do never meant by americ anfootball next
I definitely do this song at some point!
If you ever come back to this do some algernon!
This song = big nutt
Pretend needs to be on this channel at some point
Next Perfect Pillow - CHON please
Will do a CHON song at one point for sure!
Do soothsayer by buckethead!!
Do A jack with one eye by texas is the reason next..
ok paul beato i see you
🔥
Love the idea, but you should change the name lol. Maybe Why I Love This Song or something?
For sure. Thanks for the suggestion. Hard to think of a name! Haha
@@LetsTalkAboutMathRockhow about something like "theory of greatness" or "theory of splendor"
Do shibuya by covet
And I told them I Invented Times New Roman by Dance Gavin Dance
Dope
Stage Kids - Cyniculture if you mind please
My maaaaannn
first off... you still doing this as a series? second... asian kungfu generation and coheed and cambria.
best 2 bands ever in my humble opinion
Sleepy dog next 👌
All I have to say is: Yvette Young