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WARNING : ISLAM IS FAITH BELIEVE IN STONE ATTACHMENT BUT SAY WE DONT ATTACH OURSELF TO STONE If all muslim really not attached to black stone or any stone then throw it out of mecca ur relgion is based on stone attachment ur mecca is made of stone u kiss black stone u revolve criclyic around the stone and u throw stone on satan made of stone u go to religous mounatin made of stone u go al aqsa mosuqe made of stone u make masjid out of stone u go to majhar shrine made of stone u go to dargah and peer sufi shrine made of stone islam is belief wich say stone attachment is sin to other but islam iteself is so attached to stone that they cant think of islam without a black stone mecca made of stone and all relgious place based on stone if u really dont believe in stone then vanish all mosque all mecca and black stone and satan and religous mountain and all dargah shrine and peer dargah but u will not coz u are believer of stone the real people who doesnt belive in stone is athiest they doesnt have attachment with stone they just use it as a daily use material thats the truth
@نوملِز. Well for starters we are not to worship idols yet Muslims have stars and moon on their mosques, walls and flags. This was something new in the last 100 years. They pray to Mecca and not to Allah. Historically Muslims were required to pray to Israel. Talking about Christians changing the rules, which I agree but look at yourself and your Muslim history. It went down the same path. Go to mecca and see people praying to a wall, to a building, to Kaaba, the cube and kissing the black Rock -The Black Stone is a rock set into the eastern corner of the Kaaba. Allah never said to pray east or he will not hear you nor did he say kiss or pray to a rock either. Rocks aren't holy. Allah is all mighty and not so limited. Respond please
@@MichiganUSASingaporeSEAsia Just like any other prophet, Jesus prayed to one Almighty God during the night of crucifixion If you really love and follow him, Why you pray to trinity? It clearly seems that truth is not with you. Prophets can't hear prayer. If you have doubt, Just pray to Jesus one day and pray to Allah another day and check who granted your prayer. Anyway, there has nowhere in Quran ( final revelation of Allah) about this dead stone.
@@das16thegoon Incorrect it's attesting that the messenger of God is the Prophet Muhammad s.a.w.s. you could substitute the Prophet Jesus a.s. if you like or the Prophet Moses a.s. you could say there's no God but the one God and Jesus is his messenger
Bilal stood on top of the Kaabaa to make adhaan. I believe that should happen every once in a while just to remind us the Kaabaa is a building. They should also change the covering or not have one at all sometimes. Just so everyone gets it in their heads, the Kaabaa is a building. It is one of the symbols of Islam but it is a building.
I am a Muslim by birth But i don't like some points of islam Like 1.Getting married to 14 wives 2.kissing black stone because idols worshiping is forbidden in islam 3.islam against humanity Ect...
@@OlatundeNathaniel-u4b you are allowed to marry 4 wives at once, not more at once if a wife died then if capable you can add another. But I don't want to go into these things, Suleiman had over hundred of wives and he was loved by Allah, doesn't mean everyone can do it
@@mohamedyunusrafiq6930 And muslms literally trample over each other just to kiss a black pagan Stone at the corner of a pagan temple ! If that's not worship I dunno what is 🤷♂️ LOL
Have you seen your picture 🤢 circling around because that's the qibla the direction every muslim prays the black cube is a mosque not anything else I know it looks like a sattan cube but it isn't its literally a mosque people also pray inside of it
Just imagine this being in any other religion. Muslims would ridicule this act and have a field day with it. Zakir naik, Deedat, Estes, hijab et al would be laughing their asses off.
@@petestreet7535 It's not idolatry, if I kiss an object am I worshipping it? What deity is the black stone representing? It is a corner stone like most buildings in that time were implanted with one except this one is said to be from heaven. If something is to believed to have been from heaven is that not a good reason to kiss or admire it? Like someone who buys a lamborghini may kiss their car out of admiration for it? Admiration is not idolatry. In what way is that associating partners with Allah?
ATTENTION!! Hell is real... We can not hide our sins from God. Is your heart right with God? Jesus Christ loves you and He died for our sins. If you will REPENT of your sins and put your faith in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and believe in the gospel, you will be saved and your name will be written into the Book of Life. Revelation 20:15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire... "Salvation Prayer" Dear Heavenly Father, I come to you, to confess that I am a sinner. I have done some things in my life that I am not proud of and I repent of my sins. I believe that Jesus died on the cross for my sins and that He arose from the grave and that He is alive today. I ask that you forgive me of my sins. I believe and I will follow the teachings of the gospel. I proclaim that Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. AMEN...
1“ ‘Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a carved stone in your land to bow down before it. I am the Lord your God.
I appreciate the Dr's experience, thank you. I also appreciate the host challenging the notion of the human mistake people may make around the stone. Thank you.
@@Irelandforever609hristians don't make sense by making jesus a god.. if god can be human, that means god can give birth to more gods.. even god can be in the form of animals and aliens.. so christians really don't make sense at all It is simple to know what true religion are.. islam is the only religion that worship one god, christian one god in three identity, buddhism & hinduism one god in multiple identity.. in mosque there are no idols, in church there are jesus as idols & in temple multiple idols
@@Irelandforever609 Worship to Jesus is similar with worship to moses. Both were prophets, sent with signs and miracles. In moses time, Moses was the way of heaven. In noah's time, Noah was the way of heaven and truth. In Abraham time, He was the way of truth. Because Allah chose them as prophet to preach His word. Old hebrew doesn't mention the word God. Allah is the original name of God that every prophet worshipped and preached. Israelities distorted this name and made it plural form elohim. Watch genesis 1.1 Then they borrowed ancient wargodname yehweh who divorced his wife asherah. Yahweh ( misreading yehova in Latin) bowed to el. No prophet preached trinity but monotheism. And Arabs inherited this name Allah since the period of prophet Abraham and his son ismael . After a long time ishmaelities worshipped to one Allah by following prophet Abraham and his son ismael. But gradually they began to associate Allah with 3 daughters and many deities for worship which was criticised in quran. Though israelities received many prophets from Allah but last time Allah chose his last prophet from ishmaelities to give his final revelation Quran . Prophet Muhammad ( peace be upon on him) re establish the true monotheism teaching of noah and Abraham and all other prophets that "There has no God except Allah " Which is the key of entering heaven. Quran (5:72)
He's waffling. He doesn't have a clue what it is. It's completely pagan. It's a Shiva Lingham. It came from India. The Kaaba was a Shiva temple. Muhammad 's family were the temple pujaris. There are alcoves in the walls which held Hindu deities. This is why it's not mentioned at all in the Bible. Just shows that Islam is an ersatz religion with pagan roots.
This video forgets to mention some important info. The true reason WHY people anxiously want to kiss and touch the stone is not only cause Muhammad did it but because according to your sources the black stone absorbs sins ! Muslims believe the stone was pale white and it came from heaven. The reason it turned black was cause of people’s sins. Obviously I don’t believe that , it just got dirty from 1000’s of years of touching and kissing. In conclusion. Only God forgives sins not a stone. This is just my opinion and I’m stating the facts.
@@papabear8253 The absorbing of sin i feel may have been in a symbolic way as in a meteorite impact that destroyed a nation hence absorbing their sin like in Noahs flood for instance.
I think the main problem i have when it comes to the black stone is that kissing it makes all your sins go away. I believe we all know God only is capable of it. The fact that it is not mentioned in the Quran which is the direct word of God makes me doubt if actual kissing of the black stone makes your sins go away
Thing is what I believe is that it doesn't have any power to erase any sins here in this life, only Allah can do that but on the day of judgement, it might be given the ability..not now, on the day of judgement, it might/will be given the ability to erase the sins of people who touched it in this lifetime. So if you have touched it in this lifetime, your sins aren't actually erased now or "ya a born again with no sins", it's on the day of judgement I'm not saying that is it but that's what I think It's just a stone right now.
Its just a symbolic ritual, Christians wear a cross around their necks and many Atheist's that I know believe in luck, like touching wood keeps away misfortune. The cornerstone just like the Kabbah is not something that we Muslims call on in prayer or worship!
@@Kabir8123 To your point, if whatever you are telling me is true, why is is that Muslims are obligated to pay a pygrimage to Mecca in an effort to kiss the black stone atleast once in his/ her lifetime. For a rebuttal, Christians don't wear crosses around their necks, its Catholics, Okay
@@chriskear4411 The whole point in the pilgrimage to Makkah, is to bear witness in one God (Allah), who has no partners, and we dress in 2 sheets of clothing (for the men), so there is no distinction between people in race, status, wealth, etc... Once again, the cornerstone is not called upon in pray and nothing is said during the touching or raising of your hand towards it. It's just a symbolic act of respect, as that stone was given to the prophet Ibrahim (pbuh). On the other hand, you Christians believe that God became part of his creation (he changed) when the Bible says, God doesn't change in Malachi 3:6. God came down to earth through a women's private member, God suffers a humiliating death, and you call on a human Jesus in your prayers. That my friend is blasphemy. Catholics, Calvinists and I'm sure many other Christian denomination do wear a cross. It depends what Church you belong to?
Sorry I just want to share what I know about the topic. My and some praying mat has kaaba picture on it. As we now praying mat can be stepped when we pray to Allah because kaaba is not we are worship. So when some Christian said we worship it, why don't they use the praying mat but with Jesus picture on it. Can they step it? I hope you study more about Islam with intent to seek the truth.
@@marcostation1000 dude noone worship black stone , If let's say hypothitically one has worshiped that stone , Then that person will be awarded with eternel hell fire forever , Or may be Allah knowns best .
@@mohammadmikail8962 stop worsiping stones, praying towards stones kissing stones, the Moon god La is a pagan god. look up good La of the moon and leave islam pedofile mohamed cukt
Pagan Arabs were fighting over this stone before Islam at a specific occasion. All Prophet did was asked all to help in placing this stone. No one has mentioned Prophet kissed stone during that incident, or even revered this stone at all. Quran also doesn't mention this stone. Its Caliph Omer who convinced people to kiss this stone
4:59 whatever it's a symbol of Shiva. Muslim unknowingly revere Shiva. Petra is Pitara. Rudra, Sudra, surname Patra, Mitra, -stra suffix are directly or indirectly connected to the Muslim world.
@@Megaminddominator No. The symbol of the crescent was non existent at the time of the prophet. It was later adopted by the ottoman empire. It has no connection to shiva or any other god whatsoever. This is getting too desperate come on man
@mohammedzayan5540 So you are haaving something in the top of your mosque that Allah never approved? Ottoman approved Allah's symbol? Dont you know you should take images of Heavenly bodies as worship? Astafigurallah😵💫
It was narrated from Abdullah bin Ubaid bin Umair that a man said: "O Abu abdur-Rahman, why do I only see you touching these two corners?" He said: "I heard the Messenger of Allah say: 'Touching them erases sins.' And I head him say: 'whoever circumambulates seven times, it is like freeing a slave.'" حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ، أَحْمَدُ بْنُ شُعَيْبٍ مِنْ لَفْظِهِ قَالَ أَنْبَأَنَا قُتَيْبَةُ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا حَمَّادٌ، عَنْ عَطَاءٍ، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ عُبَيْدِ بْنِ عُمَيْرٍ، أَنَّ رَجُلاً، قَالَ يَا أَبَا عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ مَا أَرَاكَ تَسْتَلِمُ إِلاَّ هَذَيْنِ الرُّكْنَيْنِ قَالَ إِنِّي سَمِعْتُ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم يَقُولُ " إِنَّ مَسْحَهُمَا يَحُطَّانِ الْخَطِيئَةَ " . وَسَمِعْتُهُ يَقُولُ " مَنْ طَافَ سَبْعًا فَهُوَ كَعِدْلِ رَقَبَةٍ " . Grade: Hasan (Darussalam) Reference : Sunan an-Nasa'i 2919In-book reference : Book 24, Hadith 302English translation : Vol. 3, Book 24, Hadith 2922
@@loopydoopi Stone couldn't forgive sins. He is Allah who forgives our sins and granted our prayer. Kaaba and it's blackstone are used as direction of prayer for unity.
@@loopydoopi Direction is needed for unity. Kaaba is used to the direction of prayer. Hazre aswad is used to the direction of tawaf during hajj. Anticlockwise circumbulating Kaaba starts from this corner and ends into it.
Why don't you talk about full hadith of the Caliph. A hadith records that, when the second Caliph Umar ibn al-Khattab (580-644) came to kiss the Stone, he said in front of all assembled: “No doubt, I know that you are a stone and can neither harm anyone nor benefit anyone. Had I not seen Allah’s Messenger [Muhammad] kissing you, I would not have kissed you.”However, in the hadith collection Kanz al-Ummal , it is recorded that Ali responded to Umar, saying, “This stone (Hajar Aswad) can indeed benefit and harm…. Allah (swt) says in Quran that he created human beings from the progeny of Adam (as) and made them witness over themselves and asked them, ‘Am I not your creator?’ Upon this, all of them confirmed it. Thus Allah wrote this confirmation. And this stone has a pair of eyes, ears and a tongue and it opened its mouth upon the order of Allah (swt), who put that confirmation in it and ordered to witness it to all those worshippers who come for Hajj. Also Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said in one of His hadiths: “By Allah! On the Day of Qiyaamah, Allah will present the Hajar e Aswad in such a manner that it will have two eyes and a tongue to testify to the Imaan (faith) of all those who kissed it.” (Tirmidhi)
ATTENTION!! Hell is real... We can not hide our sins from God. Is your heart right with God? Jesus Christ loves you and He died for our sins. If you will REPENT of your sins and put your faith in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and believe in the gospel, you will be saved and your name will be written into the Book of Life. Revelation 20:15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire... "Salvation Prayer" Dear Heavenly Father, I come to you, to confess that I am a sinner. I have done some things in my life that I am not proud of and I repent of my sins. I believe that Jesus died on the cross for my sins and that He arose from the grave and that He is alive today. I ask that you forgive me of my sins. I believe and I will follow the teachings of the gospel. I proclaim that Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. AMEN...
You don't worship the black stone? Your Prophet said " kissing it will erase sins". And yet you call Hindu is paganism? If kissing the black stone is not paganism, then what paganism is?
Interesting conversation but it still isn't clear to me why Muslims so revere the Black Stone, when the only mention of it is in the Hadith(s); if it's of (so) great import why isn't it mentioned in The Qur'an?
I believe the black stone was involved in an incident where the Prophet had once shown his wisdom in settling a debate between the tribes regarding who should pick up and place it there. This was before his enlightment. The stone is symbolic of the incident that united the tribes in a dire sitiation, and a symbol to remember that incident. So, rather than breaking the "idol", he might have left it there for us to remember that conflicts can sometimes be resolved with sheer logic. Who knows.
Look dude, Muslims do not worship blackstone or Kaba. Blackstone has been defiled many times. Muslims do not care about it. In fact, founders of Saudi Arabia, The Wahabist, Puritanical Literalist Orthodox wanted the blackstone to be destroyed out of fear of excessive reverance or out of laymen ignorance of thinking god is there violating the principle of absolute oneness of god and polytheism, but left in place because most muslims objected and rose up in revolts and condemnation. Saudis also wanted to destroy prophet Muhammad decorated tomb, out of fear some people from unorthodox sect may worship the prophet when they visit. Yes, Islam is very strict on monotheism and hard on polytheism to the point of even destroying the founder of islam tomb out of fear of polytheism. Islam says no mediators with god. Muhammad cannot even intercede on your behalf for ur sins with god in life. In life, you reachout your hands to god only, the unseen creator of all.
The Black stone is not significant in our religion. I went to Mecca and did not try to kiss it nor touch it. If there were less people, I would probably observe what it is that is so special about this meteorite. But as it happened, there were always more than 20 people trying to reach the stone, even at odd hours like 3am or 4am... so I didn't bother. It has no meaning to me. It can neither benefit me nor harm me. I do not kiss it to make a wish for that is a nonsense practice. Any wishes I may have, I take my hand up and ask ALLAH, our LORD, the only one who can grant to me whatever it is I want. Allah does not prescribe for me to have to kiss the black stone to make my wish more likely to be granted by Him. In fact the black stone isn't even worthy of mention in the Quran. No reference to it even. Let alone a direct mention.
@@faithfultoyeshua4576 that's called tawaf , While walking all say la ilahalillaha , There is no god beside Allah he is only worthy of worship ! They do not say worship kaaba ! This sin cannot be forgiven in islam worshipping anything other than Allah , You will get hell .
He’s very contradicting! Islam is straight forward and he has no logic in his speech!! He’s just a another puppet of the curriculum set by man made references!! He doesn’t display that there is no need to kiss it!
Decades ago scientists took a little fragment of the stone to study it and it doesn't match with anything on this Eart. They say it came from out of space a.k.a meteorite but we know it came from Heaven. It used to be white but turned black from people sins
FAKE CHRISTIANITY ❌ POSED ❌ The Christians claim Jesus is God, but the bible say no one can see God ( 1 John 4 : 20 - John 5 : 37 ) ❌ The Christians claim Jesus is God, but Jesus said to the people our God is One ( Mark 12 : 29 - 31 ) ❌ The Christians claim Jesus is God, but Jesus said, why do you call me good ?”No one is good except God alone ( Luke 18 :19 ) ❌ The Christians claim Jesus is God, but the bible makes it clear God is not a man ( Numbers 23 : 19 ) ❌ The Christians claim Jesus is God & knows the future, but the bible says Jesus does not know the future ( Mark 13 : 32 )
Same hindus says they kiss and milk statues just because it is out of respect for gods. Islam the no.1 idol worshippers without you knowing you are doing😂😂😂😂shame that you cheaply defend such heresy against god.
So, the conclusion is: Rightly so, the Quran doesn't speak about rituals. Therefore, to justify our un-Quranic acts, we need to refer to hadith. Such is the dilemma Muslims live in, unfortunately.
Sahih al-Bukhari 1597 Narrated `Abis bin Rabi`a: `Umar came near the Black Stone and kissed it and said "No doubt, I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit anyone nor harm anyone. Had I not seen Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) kissing you I would not have kissed you." Sunan an-Nasa'i 2919 It was narrated from Abdullah bin Ubaid bin Umair that a man said: "O Abu abdur-Rahman, why do I only see you touching these two corners?" He said: "I heard the Messenger of Allah say: 'Touching them erases sins.' And I head him say: 'whoever circumambulates seven times, it is like freeing a slave.'" Grade: Hasan (Darussalam) Reference : Sunan an-Nasa'i 2919 In-book reference : Book 24, Hadith 302 English translation : Vol. 3, Book 24, Hadith 2922
2:10 ...and another explanation is that those who have been revering and kissing the Black stone will be suffering with Stones and burned and heated in the fire!
@@Halal_Dan No - suffering for revering and bending down to a Stone which is strictly prohibited by YHWH in the 10 Commandments of Moses. Exodus 20:3-4 3 "You shall have no other gods before[a] me. 4 “You shall *not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath,* or that is in the water under the earth. 5 *You shall not bow down to them* or serve them, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me," Muslims disobey the Law of God given to Moses by bowing down to the Black Stone and to the Kabah. *God calls this IDOLATRY!* Anyone who does this or other practices, no matter what religion, is disobeying YHWH.
@@mn-sz7kf That is true. Christianity has YHWH, the Creator of the Universe, who speaks every language, but Islam worships 'allah' the local god of Arabia who only understands Arabic. In Genesis, at the tower of Babylon, YHWH divided mankind up giving, them many languages, each of which YHWH knows because he gave them those languages, and one of those languages was Arabic among all the thousands of other languages. He knows every language. The local god "allah" received just one of these languages and doesn't have the ability to understand any of the others. This god 'allah' however has been disobedient, speaking against Almighty God, YHWH, with words of arrogance and falsehoods! YHWH will severely punish allah in the Day of Judgement.
@@peaceinjesus5221 Its not like we doesnt have translation, you can still read quran in different languages or tafseer. Because quran was ascended from heaven to middle east, not in North/South America, Africa, Australia, Europe. This is the main reason why we read in arabic. Even jesus pbuh is an arabic. Also, i can see you dont have much knowladge and only think that english is the only language. Allah means "god" in arabic, literally in arabic bible translation they use the word "Allah" since 1970's/80's. Allah have 99 names for example Ar-Rahman and Ar-Rahim. The word "God" is sorta easier to say.
If I use Shabir's ideology on only one account of someone seeing Muhammed kiss the Black Stone, which he seems to be questionable. Could that same principle be applied to Muhammed's single account on how he was revealed about Islam? Who else was there to verify Muhammed's claims?
Bible says God created man in his own image. So God looks like us. So we relate to God as our father. He calls us his children. So we have a personal relationship with God.
I just see this Shabir Ally walking around the question whitout no answer at all, 1.- what is the singnificance of the black stone?? no answer 2.- Why do muslims revere the black stone?? no answer either 3.- Do the muslims revere the black stone?? (the answer is very obvious, YES!) a very vague answer from MR. Ally, my question is why muslims worship and frenetic kissa stone?? why?
Kissing ston hozre aswad, clean your sin ,that s why ston become white to black, it's not shirk ,contradict one and other. It's like puja or ston worship.
These performative behaviors in Islam are puzzling. No one knows why people kiss the black stone, they just do it because Muhammad did. Muslims are left unguided as to why. It is very similar to other performative issues in the hadith. What foot to enter the bathroom, what side to sleep on, etc. It seems Islam has a talismanic undercurrent that expects adherence to outward performance it equates with righteousness. The fact that many Muslim memorize the Quran and repeat it without knowing what it actually communicates means the words are treated as a magical talisman similar to "Open Sesame".
Idk if its true, but i've heard somewhere that the black stone was actually a white stone that came from heaven (jannah), but when it came in contact with earth it became black. I also heard somewhere it is also linked with adam pubh.
Yeah, that's the sad reality. That's why, Allah is always reminding again and again, repeatedly. That "Why don't you think?" "Why don't you ponder upon?" "Why don't you reflect?" And people just blindly follow
The external reinforces the internal. If you forces a smile, you will feel better. In the same vein, praying and doing the others Pillars of Islam (all external actions) reinforces the faith (an internal characteristics).
The black stone,Kaaba, praying towards the direction of the Kaaba, circling the Kaaba and trying to kiss the stone or touch it seem so pagan. I respect Shabir Ally very much because he’s probably the only honest Islam apologetic in the world, but everything about Mecca, the black stone and Kaaba feel so pagan. If they were relevant, why are they NOT mentioned in the Bible? Why would God hide such important things to Him from all the prophets of the Old Testament and even the people in the New Testament?
@@ad_wang Allah was the creator God that the Pagan Arabs worshipped. He was known as the Unseen God, Creator God, Sustsainer of All. Still, they worshipped idols, called 'partners' or 'associate'. They believe Allah was too elevated and had to find a way to get to him. They took the idols as mediators and intercessors. Allah had no image at the kaaba. The Jews of Arabia and also the christians used the word Allah to mean The Supreme God. It was the same for the Pagan Arabs as stated ny Alfred Guillaume, a british scholar of the bible. Read something from scholars instead of polemists.
The semitic people had a culture of designating a stone to God's house. It is there in the hebrew bible. Read the story about Jacob. He sleep on a stone, had a dream, annointed the stone, Called it house of God, BethEl. In Arabic it is called BaitAllah. El is a cognate of Allah. The jews have three pilgrimages. One of them is festival of Sukkot, called festival of the booth. You will find about this festival in Deutoronomy. In the Mishnah Sukkah, it goes into details about how the festival is celebrated. The Jews would circle and Altar seven times and say "Lord please save us, Lord please grant us success". The Hebrews, Israelites, Jews and arabs have a lot in common in their cultures. They are semites. In Psalms 138:2 Kind David says he will bow toward the holy temple of God. "I will bow down toward your holy temple and will praise your name for your unfailing love and your faithfulness, for you have so exalted your solemn decree that it surpasses your fame"
@@arasen6843 The problem with your first submission is that, Muslims believe “Allah” is not just a title (God/god) but rather the proper name of God. For instance, Muhammed’s father was called Abdullah (which means slave of Allah), yet he was a pagan. It’s the reason why Muslim don’t translate Allah into “God/god”, even in the English Quran. However, the name of God in the Bible is YHWH (Yahweh) and it occurs 6,800 in the Old Testament. How did Muhammed forget the name of God? Even in the English version of the Shahada, it contains “Allah” and not “YHWH”. And if “Allah” simply means “God/god” which the Arab Christians and Jews mistakenly use to refer to their God (as just a title), then the shahada in English won’t even make sense, because you can’t say; “There’s no God but God…” By the way, don’t forget that the Arab Christians also used the word “al-Ilah” (a title) to refer to God even before Islam began in Arabia. Do you remember when the Malaysian government stopped the Catholic Church from using Allah to refer to the Christian God, as they believed it is exclusive to Islam? So, an Arab Christian might use “Allah” (although I believe they should use al-ilah) as simply the title “God”, but an Arab Muslim would use it as the proper name of his God/god and not just a title. For instance, YHWH constantly refers to Yeshua as His Son, yet Allah hates it when people refer to Isa as his son. Even the Arab Christians don’t refer to Jesus as Isa, but rather Yasou. Also, if Muhammed preached Allah, whom the pagan Arabs, Christians and Jews already knew, why did they reject Muhammed until he spread Islam through conquering?
@@edward1412 We, muslims made that into a proper name. It is confirmed by scholars that The Jews, Christians and Arabs used the word Allah to mean God. Even in Aramaic the word for God is AalaH or Allaha. I could use the same argument against you. The new testament which is all about Jesus is written in Greek. Yahweh is none even mentioned once. The word used to mean God are Theos, Kyrious and Pater. The New Testament is the inspired word of God according to christiand and it is the same God of the old testament. Did God forget his ancient name Yahweh? How did Mark, Matthew, Luke and John forget the name of Yahweh? The Shahada is "La ilaha illAllah". Which translate to There are no diety except Allah. Ilah means god or diety. It is anything that is worshipped. The sun, the moon, idols or human being. Whereas Allah refers to the one worthy of worship. That is why some people translate the shahada as There is none worthy if worship except Allah. The Quraysh, the pagan Arabs took idols as ilahs apart from Allah. They took idols as false gods in addition to the real God Allah. The Prophet's message was to preach the monotheist of Allah, the supreme and creator God. You believe the christians should use Al-ilah. What about the aramaic christians? The word for God is Aalah or Allaha in Aramaic. Some scholar said Allah in Arabic is a loan word from the Aramaic's Allaha/Aalah. The Pagans rejected the messenger because their love for idols was equal or greater than Allah. This is mentioned in the Quran. They saw their grandfathers worshipping idols and said we will stick to that. All religions have pilgrimage, we as muslims all religion came from God but was later corrupted by idolatry, corruption texts etc.
@@arasen6843 In the Old Testament, you will find out that many prophets and men of God built temporary ALTARS to sacrifice to God. In Genesis 28:10-20, there was a specific reason Jacob did that. He simply found a normal stone and used it as a “pillow” in his sleep. However, he had a dream about God’s promise during his sleep and when he woke up, he believed the place he had slept had God’s presence. It was the reason why he called it the “House of God”. When he got up in the morning, he set up the stone as a PILLAR and poured OIL on it before calling the place Bethel. What is significant here isn’t the “stone” but rather the location where he had the dream. Had he slept on a wood, he would have done the same thing to the wood. This experience by Jacob is different from other religious “stone” reverence, including the black stone in Islam. Hinduism, which is the oldest religion known to man has the “Shila” stones and Islam has the “black stone”. There have been so many religions in history that revered a particular stone. If you read Acts 19:35-41, you would realise that the Greeks also worshipped the fertility goddess called Ephesus Artemis and she was associated with a SACRED STONE that was believed to have fallen from JUPITER. The Jews NEVER had a particular stone that they revered. Leviticus 26:1 “Do not make idols or set up an image or a SACRED STONE for yourselves, and do not place a CARVED STONE in your land to bow down before it. I am YHWH your God”. The Jews having three pilgrimages ( Passover, Shavuot and Sukkot) doesn’t mean Muslims’ pilgrimage to Mecca or Hindus Kumbh Mela is also from God. God gave these festivals to the Israelites and we both know why they observed them. However, this is different from Muslims pilgrimage to Mecca. Muhammed conquered the Kabah which were used by pagans, and claimed that Allah is the only true God, yet he kept ALL the practices the pagans used to observe. If you read about Arabia before Islam, the Jewish and Christian Scriptures, etc., you will realise that the Quran is made up of stories and practices that were already known. 1. The Arab pagans used to worship at the Kabah. Muhammed kept this. 2. The Arab pagans used to venerate stones before Islam. 3. Arab pagans used to pray towards Mecca before Islam. Interestingly, Muhammed started his Islamic religion praying towards Jerusalem. 4. Muhammed used to fast during the day of Ashura, which was a day the pagan tribe of Quraish used to fast, until he invented Ramadan. 5. The walk between Safa and Marwa was also a pagan ritual before Islam. It’s fascinating that although Muhammed claimed that all the prophets were Muslims, Islam practices are no where found in the Scriptures, apart from the ones Muhammed copied from the Scriptures. Why isn’t the Mecca pilgrimage among the pilgrimages of the Jews? Why didn’t Jesus Christ tell His followers about the Kabah, the black stone and Mecca?
Dr. Shabir, this is simply what you believe. And everyone is entitled to believe what they want. This is not science. It’s not testable, repeatable, and falsifiable evidence. The name of this channel is let the Quran speak but you can’t use it to back up what you believe. Kissing the rock, circling the rock, and praying towards the rock is systematically idol worship and not found anywhere in the Quran meaning god neved mentioned this.
Jews cry to the temple and sometimes kiss it, is it idol worship? Kissing the stone isn't idol worship. No Muslim believes that the black stone is God.
@@phenomenal17playz I dont care what anyone does. Im not their judge or yours. If you think performing some sort or any sort of ritual with any rock is what you need to do to go to heaven, then go for it. What I do know is that you cant find any evidence for these rituals in the Quran, therefore I will never do it. I apologize for calling it idol worship. Peace.
Please dig deep you went into the worst. You just dived in Uthman's phillosophies. There is no proof that the quranic character, Muhammed exists in that sense. Search the history of the Kaaba and how muhammed was influenced by satan to bow before pagan black stone and cause all his followers to do so too
@@phenomenal17playz yes it is, it was destroyed for a reason. Don't justify nonsense the first kiss of the stone happened when muhammed recited satanic verses.that is in your quran
You need to understand between the lines. He's very subtle in explaining the matter. He says that the black stone isn't mentionned in the quran. That the sources about revering it are scarce and somewhat contradictory and that men have a tendency to amplify things. He won't say frontally it's idol worshiping, it's a myth etc
I believe the black stone was involved in an incident where the Prophet had once shown his wisdom in settling a debate between the tribes regarding who should pick up and place it there. This was before his enlightment. The stone is symbolic of the incident that united the tribes in a dire sitiation, and a symbol to remember that incident. So, rather than breaking the "idol", he might have left it there for us to remember the story and that conflicts can sometimes be resolved with sheer logic. Who knows.
Pagan Arabs were fighting over this stone before Islam at a specific occasion. All Prophet did was asked all to help in placing this stone. No one has mentioned Prophet kissed stone during that incident, or even revered this stone at all. Quran also doesn't mention this stone. Its Caliph Omer who convinced people to kiss this stone
The black stone used to be an idol. It is reported from one of the companions of the Prophet that he said "Hidden shirk (ascribing partners to God, idolatry), is as difficult to detect as it is to detect a black ant standing on a black rock, on a moonless dark night." I think the black stone serves as a reminder that although our goal is to worship only Allah, there's still some hidden idolatry in us which we must be aware of. The other function is obviously as a "good omen". The arab tribes were arguing about which tribe leader would have the honor of putting the black stone in its place during the reconstruction of the Kaaba. The Prophet reconciled them by putting the stone on a piece of cloth; each tribe leader grabbed a corner of the rock, while the prophet put it in its place - so that everyone had the honor of putting it back there. So for me it has two functions: a reminder of the hidden idol within us, and a reminder of the unity between people.
@Uni dhe Haruni, really? You need a stone to remind you that? Instead of asking help from YHWH? Really? You are asking a stone for help? You are trusting a stone instead of YHWH? Unbelievable!
The stone is part of a glassy meteorite that nomadic people saw landing in the desert, at night. In the morning, they found it and saw it as a message from a god. Later, when the prophet removed the idols from the Kaaba, he realised that people needed a focus, so he left the black stone. "When Adam was expelled from the garden of Eden, where all the stones were white, he took the stone as a souvenir. Over time, the stone became black from the sins of mankind".
yep. just researched the subject - it is nothing but a meteorite stone and i cannot believe it is being taken as something to worship so violently :) on energy level it has a very negative low vibration and the silver metal here is used to amplify and conduct its energy. No wonder there is so much violence in the communities of its worshipers and they are brainwashed to the point of being unable to think independently.
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Legitimate question when a Christian or Catholic kisses or bows to a cross is that worshipping a cross? I dont think so. What about when a Jewish person bows and kisses the wailing wall in Jerusalem is that worshipping the temple mount? Or worshipping at the temple mount? The latter makes much more sense than the former
@@Fizzy332 It was narrated from Abdullah bin Ubaid bin Umair that a man said: "O Abu abdur-Rahman, why do I only see you touching these two corners?" He said: "I heard the Messenger of Allah say: 'Touching them erases sins.' And I head him say: 'whoever circumambulates seven times, it is like freeing a slave.' Sunan an nasai 2919
What difference does it make which way you argue. People from all across the world go to kaaba and go around the stone is as good as worshipping. So condemn other sects but do the same what you condemn for others. Most irrational and cunning behaviour.
Unlike your view, in fact, it was not a normal reverence, but a "daily required prostration" around this black stone at Kaaba in Mecca only in order to worship one mythical Allah limited in the sky. Moreover, by some Hadiths, Mohammed and Muslims also believed that anyone who kissed or touched this sacred stone idol, his sin will be forgiven and cleaned.
The Blackstone is alive, it will bear witness for all Abduls who touch or kiss it on the judgement day and their sins are forgiven. The Blackstone was white but turned black due to absorbing the sins of those Abduls that kissed or touched it. The Blackstone was sent by Allah from his paradise. Muslims like the pagans kiss or touch the Blackstone and worship it,it is one of their deities. Abdul Shabbir Ali conveniently skips discussing the hadiths that tell about the divine nature of the Blackstone because he is embarrassed by the pagan practice of worshipping stones 😂😀😀
Do Muslims worship the black stone? Yes. Take away the black stone and there is no Kaaba and there is no need to face the Kaaba when you bow down in Salat. So yes, the black stone is the object. That is why they kiss it until it turns black.
@@Hamza000h, Muhammad himself never led Muslims without having to come back to that cuboid structure. He never went to that structure without paying special attention to the stone. And, venerated Islamic sources know that their stories are not complete without a mention of that stone thing. Apparently, the stone came from Janna. Not sure the location of Muslim’s Janna where physical stones shoot out from-Muslims! 🙄Sigh! 🤦♂️. Holes, holes and more holes in the narrative. But, I guess to you, that Muhammad and all Islamic sources are wrong at every point. Throw them under the bus and let me watch you do so. I’m waiting.
The only cornerstone you need to kiss is Jesus he claimed to be the cornerstone of all. no one can go to the father unless they believe in Jesus Christ
Very interesting explanation. The Study Quran gives two different commentaries for Surahs 17:73-75c and 85:3c. These commentaries seem link to the Black stone. The former refers to a concession-type to Makkan people's desire to hang on to pagans and the latter to witness the covenant with God. There is also a story that this stone was part of a meteorite and later it broken up into a number of pieces. It is not clear if any scientific examination was carried out on a sample taken.
@@DrillAlley Not so. God has left to us look, listen, study, learn, marvel at his wonders. A carbon dating could be useful. It may show the origins of the site and its people going back to the very beginning.
@@stevenkelly7986 You need to look for an international sponsorship to get a minute sample for scientific examination in a leading university. Perhaps a MSc or PhD project.
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@@stevenkelly7986 After Jesus, Gospel was written in hebrew & greek by mark, Matthew, john, Luke and they added many word from their own. For example, Jesus adressed his God as aramaic word " Rabb" meaning Lord which was written in hebrew " Aabb" meaning Father. Jesus said him " word of God" which is true. In the begginning of Gospel, John distorted the true meaning of " word of God" and gave his own explanation. "Word of God" is title of Messiah & it is not relating to the God's everlasting uncreated unchanged entity. Whereas Gospel writter John introduced the idea of existing 2 god[...... Word with (first) God, Word is( second) God ] in the begginning of Gospel without understanding the meaning of word of God. Jesus spoke on aramaic where God name is Alaha which is similar to arabic Allah. Arabs inherited the name of God " Allah " since the period of Prophet Abraham & his son Ismael ( peace be upon on them). Early zews distorted the holy name of God & made it plural form " elohim ". Then they borrowed wargod name Yahweh from surrounding pagans.
@Tawheed Deen idols u say. Your whole religion is full of idols. U worship the kabba and kiss a stone to forgive your sins. Pagan by any other name is Islam.
@𝚜𝚝𝚊𝚛𝚍𝚞𝚜𝚝 109 Qur'an Say: O disbelievers لَا أَعْبُدُ مَا تَعْبُدُونَ I do not worship what you worship وَلَا أَنتُمْ عَابِدُونَ مَا أَعْبُدُ Nor are you the worshippers of what I worship وَلَا أَنَا عَابِدٌ مَّا عَبَدتُّمْ Nor will I be a worshiper of what you worship وَلَا أَنتُمْ عَابِدُونَ مَا أَعْبُدُ Nor will you be the worshippers of what I worship لَكُمْ دِينُكُمْ وَلِيَ دِينِ Your religion is for you, and my religion is for me.
Pagan Arabs were fighting over this stone before Islam at a specific occasion. All Prophet did was asked all to help in placing this stone. No one has mentioned Prophet kissed stone during that incident, or even revered this stone at all. Quran also doesn't mention this stone. Its Caliph Omer who convinced people to kiss this stone
Greetings my people,yea! Islam! Oh muslims thou art become idol worshipers, be still! Repent & be forgiven for the sword of GOD is upon thee, HIS indignation draw't near know this! HIS wrath is upon ye! Cleanse thy selves & be still Acts 19:35-36
No, because the pagans would call on their idols in prayer, whereas the Kabba and the stone are not called on by name or during any prayer. Rather, its just a symbolic act. Allah (swt) is the one we worship, and Allah (swt) is not a cube or a cornerstone!
@@Kabir8123, Why at all do you have to have the Kaaba, the stone, Marwa and Sarfa, face the East while praying and so on? Yet, you must not associate anything else with Allah swt?? Really? Why so much associates in this ☪️ Islam?
@@Kantz1 (you must not associate anything else with Allah swt?? Really?) Yes, we Muslims don't associate anything to our creator Allah (swt), full stop, that answers your question. What about the other practices? Well, we pray in one direction from all around the world, symbolising one creator Allah (swt). That direction is the key for unity, as we Muslims believe in unity and the Kaaba is the qibla (direction), its not a God that we call on in prayer. As for Saffa & Marwa, it is part of the pilgrimage which signifies the suffering bored by Hajar (Hagar) wife of the prophet Ibrahim (pbuh), who Allah (swt) showed mercy to. Muslims, commemorate this act in order to honour her suffering and seek Gods-Allah (swt) mercy too. What's wrong with that? I mean, Its got nothing to do with pagans or other deities, right? The associations that your referring to, all have a story or reason behind the acts. You really need to learn about Islam, instead of throwing unscholarly like questions, because Islam ☪️ isn't just a religion, rather its a way of life. Salaam (peace)
@@medusa7872 Abdullah means servant of Allah (swt), stop playing with meanings. The pagans called on idols to associate partners with Allah (swt), this is totally forbidden in Islam. The prophet Muhammed (pbuh) did not worship idols nor did he invite people to worship them, rather he said the idols are powerless and there is only one deity worth of worship, which is Allah (swt) meaning the only one worth of worship. That's the reason why he was prosecuted by the Quresh for calling people towards monotheism (Tauhid). And what do you believe in? What's your religion?
@𝚜𝚝𝚊𝚛𝚍𝚞𝚜𝚝 During our prayer, his name is mentioned in the following manner, "I bear witness that there is no deity but Allah (God), and I bear witness that Muhammed (pbuh) is His servant and His messenger." Now what's wrong with that and what's your problem?
@UCHIHAVEGETA-wo4sbAssalamu alaikum wr wb Brother, a Christian once said this to me, and my lack of knowledge prevents me from answering properly. What say you? May Allah Azza Wa Jalla reward you. _"Concerning the virtue of touching the Yemeni Corner, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Touching the Black Stone and the Yemeni Corner indeed erases sins.” (Narrated by Ahmad from Ibn ‘Umar; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Jaami’, no. 2194). What the purpose human worship to God ? To get His mercy, and He erases our sins . If touch Black Stone and Yemeni Corner erases human's sins, its called worship. Or......... Are The Black Stone and Yemeni Corner representative from Allah in earth ?"_
As far as i know when Adam as. was buildng the first masjed (Kabah) Allah Azza wa Jallah sent this stone from Jannah like a sign of approval of this masjed in the eyes of Himself and sent this stone as a piece of brick of His contribution to the first temple(Masjed) built on Earth in history by fist man's (Adam as.) hand. So Kabah is the first masjed built by Adam as. later rebuilt by Ibrahem as. having a Heavenly brick as a sign of God's approval and contribution.
ATTENTION!! Hell is real... We can not hide our sins from God. Is your heart right with God? Jesus Christ loves you and He died for our sins. If you will REPENT of your sins and put your faith in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and believe in the gospel, you will be saved and your name will be written into the Book of Life. Revelation 20:15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire... "Salvation Prayer" Dear Heavenly Father, I come to you, to confess that I am a sinner. I have done some things in my life that I am not proud of and I repent of my sins. I believe that Jesus died on the cross for my sins and that He arose from the grave and that He is alive today. I ask that you forgive me of my sins. I believe and I will follow the teachings of the gospel. I proclaim that Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. AMEN...
The Black Stone is not mentioned in the Quran, but is mentioned in the hadith. Another nail in the coffin for quran a loners? May Allah guide all of us to the straight path.
@@nowfeltahmid6613 Tawaf was one of the pagan practices Muhammed copied from the pagan Arabs. Narrated Abu Raja Al-Utaridi: We used to worship stones, and when we found a better stone than the first one, we would throw the first one and take the latter, but if we could not get a stone then we would collect some earth (i.e. soil) and then bring a sheep and milk that sheep over it, and perform the Tawaf around it. When the month of Rajab came, we used (to stop the military actions), calling this month the iron remover, for we used to remove and throw away the iron parts of every spear and arrow in the month of Rajab.
@@elsemorris906 Narrated Abu Raja Al-Utaridi: We used to worship stones, and when we found a better stone than the first one, we would throw the first one and take the latter, but if we could not get a stone then we would collect some earth (i.e. soil) and then bring a sheep and milk that sheep over it, and perform the Tawaf around it. When the month of Rajab came, we used (to stop the military actions), calling this month the iron remover, for we used to remove and throw away the iron parts of every spear and arrow in the month of Rajab. Abu Raja' added: When the Prophet (ﷺ) sent with (Allah's) Message, I was a boy working as a shepherd of my family camels. When we heard the news about the appearance of the Prophet, we ran to the fire, i.e. to Musailima al-Kadhdhab. حَدَّثَنَا الصَّلْتُ بْنُ مُحَمَّدٍ، قَالَ سَمِعْتُ مَهْدِيَّ بْنَ مَيْمُونٍ، قَالَ سَمِعْتُ أَبَا رَجَاءٍ الْعُطَارِدِيَّ، يَقُولُ كُنَّا نَعْبُدُ الْحَجَرَ، فَإِذَا وَجَدْنَا حَجَرًا هُوَ أَخْيَرُ مِنْهُ أَلْقَيْنَاهُ وَأَخَذْنَا الآخَرَ، فَإِذَا لَمْ نَجِدْ حَجَرًا جَمَعْنَا جُثْوَةً مِنْ تُرَابٍ، ثُمَّ جِئْنَا بِالشَّاةِ فَحَلَبْنَاهُ عَلَيْهِ، ثُمَّ طُفْنَا بِهِ، فَإِذَا دَخَلَ شَهْرُ رَجَبٍ قُلْنَا مُنَصِّلُ الأَسِنَّةِ. فَلاَ نَدَعُ رُمْحًا فِيهِ حَدِيدَةٌ وَلاَ سَهْمًا فِيهِ حَدِيدَةٌ إِلاَّ نَزَعْنَاهُ وَأَلْقَيْنَاهُ شَهْرَ رَجَبٍ. وَسَمِعْتُ أَبَا رَجَاءٍ، يَقُولُ كُنْتُ يَوْمَ بُعِثَ النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم غُلاَمًا أَرْعَى الإِبِلَ عَلَى أَهْلِي، فَلَمَّا سَمِعْنَا بِخُرُوجِهِ فَرَرْنَا إِلَى النَّارِ إِلَى مُسَيْلِمَةَ الْكَذَّابِ That is his hadith. You have cut the hadith. He is talking about pre-Islamic times.
so worsiping stones is pagan like islam. Black stone forgive sins that means the stone is muslims god. they pray towards a stone and must travell to talk with the stone.
"Take the place where Abraham stood as a place of prayer" --> Abraham was never in what a couple of thousand years became Mecca, let alone by the Kabah!
@@Halal_Dan There isn't. The only thing that has been suggested is some very stretched ideas that Abraham could have gone there by pushing the boundaries of the stories of the Midianites and the boundaries of geography to try to accommodate the idea that Abraham could have gone there. In reality, neither Abraham nor any biblical figure would have gone to a place which didn't even exist until the 7th century! You see Makkah is a location in the deserts of the Hijaz, where there never was anything, or any reason for anyone to go there! It wasn't even on any trade route, but required a diversion from a trade route, which in reality no ancient people would take! There was nothing there to support or attact life or anyone to go there - it was simply an empty desert location! This precisely why, no archaeology has ever found anything there in Mecca apart from some late Byzantine temporary presence. There is no archaeology in Makkah to show it had any history or settlement there and this is why it didn't appear on any ancient maps made by Ptolemy. If you look up the original maps by Ptolemy you will find that there is no Makkah on them at all - except if you are looking at a modern reproduction of them, with the place of Makkah stuck onto it to show where it is today! Makkah not only didn't exist in the time of Abraham, but it was way too far in a hot desert for Abraham to seek to go to! We would be talking of a 600 to 1000 mile journey for Abraham to venture into a hot arid desert with no water....all the way south....for what reason?? Its a totally illogical idea and still less, for Abraham it would have been potentially his own death and anyone with him, as they could have died in the waterless desert, long before they got there! ...and again, what was the reason for him to make such a death venture into an empty hot desert to go to a place that didn't then exist?? No my friend - this story of Muslims is made up to try to support the moving of the religion of Islam, from Jerusalem, to Mecca! Jerusalem is where Islam began, not Mecca and it was subsequently moved down to Mecca along with Safa and Marwah and Jahannam - which are the 3 locations of Jerusalem - Sapha (renamed by Greeks to Mount Scopus), Moriah (Marwah) and Gehenna (Jahannam).
@@peaceinjesus5221 This position isn't supported by even your own scripture, Bakka(the other name for Mecca) is mentioned by name in the Psalms of David, with reference to the ZamZam spring that saved Hagar and Ishmael. Also the people of Mecca had an awareness of their origins from Abraham *long* before Muhammad was born.
@@Halal_Dan You are right, scripture does NOT support Mecca - the following is the case: a) The Bible does NOT support any idea of Abraham ever being in a place called Mecca b) The Quran does NOT support the idea of Mecca in the Hijaz (present Saudi Arabia) being the place of Mohammed, as the Quran describes a place with trees and water etc. c) There is no evidence of the place now called Mecca, existing before the 7th century, since it does not appear on any ancient maps of the time. d) Mecca is off the trade routes - to get to it, travellers would have to make a diversion to the west to get there - hence this is not a logical place to develop there in ancient times. e) There were NO people living in Mecca before the 7th century as there is no archaeology showing any people ever lived there, until the invention of Islam. Now you have copied a familiar propaganda argument that Baca is another name for Mecca! This idea from Muslims is Muslims playing with the word Baca to try to convince themselves that it was Mecca! If I ask you to explain the logic of this idea....you will get very lost, very quickly! Do you realise why? The Bacca that you mention from Psalm 84:6, describes a place of water, which Jews on their pilgrimage to the Temple in Jerusalem, passed by, to be refreshed there on their journey. Its a place of Springs. Note that it is only a place of "passing through" - never the destination! It is not a place with a religious building in it! It is only a passing place where there are springs of water. Jews who were travelling from Galilee to the North of Jerusalem and Jews coming from the west and east, passed through this place called Baca for refreshment. You should realise that travelling through the Saudi Arabian desert was very dangerous because of the vast deserts that had no water. Even a journey from Mecca to hundreds of miles north was dicing with death. The Baca mentioned in Psalm 84 has nothing to do with the place you now called 'Mecca' in the Hijaz and Hagar certainly never took her son Ishmael across this desert as they would have died in it! Neither was there any reason for Abraham ever to venture across this empty waterless desert to risk his life for no reason! Even if Abraham would have gone there, he would have found nothing there ....no Mecca! Psa 84:1 To the choirmaster: according to The Gittith. A Psalm of the Sons of Korah. How lovely is your dwelling place, O LORD of hosts! Psa 84:2 My soul longs, yes, faints for the courts of the LORD; my heart and flesh sing for joy to the living God. Psa 84:3 Even the sparrow finds a home, and the swallow a nest for herself, where she may lay her young, at your altars, O LORD of hosts, my King and my God. Psa 84:4 Blessed are those who dwell in your house, ever singing your praise! Selah Psa 84:5 Blessed are those whose strength is in you, in whose heart are the highways to Zion. Psa 84:6 As they go through the Valley of Baca they make it a place of springs; the early rain also covers it with pools. Psa 84:7 They go from strength to strength; each one appears before God in Zion. Psa 84:8 O LORD God of hosts, hear my prayer; give ear, O God of Jacob! Selah Psa 84:9 Behold our shield, O God; look on the face of your anointed! Psa 84:10 For a day in your courts is better than a thousand elsewhere. I would rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God than dwell in the tents of wickedness. Psa 84:11 For the LORD God is a sun and shield; the LORD bestows favor and honor. No good thing does he withhold from those who walk uprightly. Psa 84:12 O LORD of hosts, blessed is the one who trusts in you! .....No - Baca has nothing whatsoever to do with Mecca. Neither does the name even sound the same! A 'B' is very distinct from an 'M' ! All that has happened here is that some Muslim saw the word 'Baca' in Psalm 84 and wanted to believe that it was Mecca! He told other people that he had "found Mecca in the Bible" and......the rest is history!
If you do not worship it then why kiss and touch it to get you sins washed away? according to your Islamic believe it cleanse you from all unrighteousness.thats an act of worship.
Idolatry is the worship of an idol, an idol is an image or a representation of a God/Goddess and worship is when something is venerated and adored as a deity. The black stone is neither an image nor a representation of Allāh and no one venerates or adores it as a deity.
Anything new, Mohammed believed and touched the stone either by tongue, hand or stick,whichever, he paid a homage to the stone and enthroned it on all muslims. Even those who are in other parts of the world pay their homage by facing the direction of the stone. Sheik Shabby has not told us why muslims PAY HOMAGE to ordinary stone. Before Mohammed was Moses, and islam by quran always claim MUZZADIQQAN to torah and God of the prophets. Read 1King 19:18 and Ezek 8:16 also. Does this not tell you God of islam is not God of torah. If you STUDY Ezek 11:12, is islam not following the Preislamics Worshippers of Quarysh ?
He doesn’t mention that in Islam it is believed the black stone was at first white, but it has since turned black because it took on the sins of the people who touched it.
Muslims walk around an Agate rock and fight to kiss it believing it is something supernatural. Yes that really does not sound like pagan rituals 😳😳 ps throw in animal sacrifice and throwing stones at other stones that represent the devil. Oh Muslims how much do you pay to be part of such pagan rituals. Mashallat
Still didn't answer the question, why do Muslims *kiss* the Black Stone? Not "what will happen if you worship it". Do you have to kiss a cornerstone to know where to start a circulation? The fact that people k1ll to see the black stone alone shows us that it's more than just a cornerstone. There was once a telling that says the black stone came from Heaven, it was once white, but because a sinner who has a lot of sins touched it, it becomes black, but even so, Muslims have no good reason as to why they kiss a black stone. A person once says Muhammad kiss it as well as themselves simply because it came from Heaven, but whatever reason it might be, it will still be idolatry. So it's either, Muslim kiss the Black Stone because it came from Heaven or they believe that there are sacred stones that give healing and blessings just as Crystal healing believers do, no matter what way it is, it will always be idolatry in the end.
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WARNING : ISLAM IS FAITH BELIEVE IN STONE ATTACHMENT BUT SAY WE DONT ATTACH OURSELF TO STONE
If all muslim really not attached to black stone or any stone then throw it out of mecca ur relgion is based on stone attachment ur mecca is made of stone u kiss black stone u revolve criclyic around the stone and u throw stone on satan made of stone u go to religous mounatin made of stone u go al aqsa mosuqe made of stone u make masjid out of stone u go to majhar shrine made of stone u go to dargah and peer sufi shrine made of stone islam is belief wich say stone attachment is sin to other but islam iteself is so attached to stone that they cant think of islam without a black stone mecca made of stone and all relgious place based on stone if u really dont believe in stone then vanish all mosque all mecca and black stone and satan and religous mountain and all dargah shrine and peer dargah but u will not coz u are believer of stone the real people who doesnt belive in stone is athiest they doesnt have attachment with stone they just use it as a daily use material thats the truth
@نوملِز. Well for starters we are not to worship idols yet Muslims have stars and moon on their mosques, walls and flags. This was something new in the last 100 years. They pray to Mecca and not to Allah. Historically Muslims were required to pray to Israel. Talking about Christians changing the rules, which I agree but look at yourself and your Muslim history. It went down the same path. Go to mecca and see people praying to a wall, to a building, to Kaaba, the cube and kissing the black Rock -The Black Stone is a rock set into the eastern corner of the Kaaba. Allah never said to pray east or he will not hear you nor did he say kiss or pray to a rock either. Rocks aren't holy. Allah is all mighty and not so limited. Respond please
@@MichiganUSASingaporeSEAsia
Just like any other prophet,
Jesus prayed to one Almighty God during the night of crucifixion
If you really love and follow him,
Why you pray to trinity?
It clearly seems that truth is not with you.
Prophets can't hear prayer.
If you have doubt,
Just pray to Jesus one day and pray to Allah another day and check who granted your prayer.
Anyway, there has nowhere in Quran ( final revelation of Allah) about this dead stone.
"I bear witness that none deserves worship except Allah, and I bear witness that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah."
Allahuma salli wa sallim wa barik Ala sayyidina Muhammad wa Ala sayyidina Muhammad.
Isnt that associating another entity with God?
@@das16thegoon Incorrect it's attesting that the messenger of God is the Prophet Muhammad s.a.w.s. you could substitute the Prophet Jesus a.s. if you like or the Prophet Moses a.s. you could say there's no God but the one God and Jesus is his messenger
... says Muhammad.
@red one
Who invokes it? Kissing it is wrong
Bilal stood on top of the Kaabaa to make adhaan. I believe that should happen every once in a while just to remind us the Kaabaa is a building. They should also change the covering or not have one at all sometimes. Just so everyone gets it in their heads, the Kaabaa is a building. It is one of the symbols of Islam but it is a building.
I am a Muslim by birth
But i don't like some points of islam
Like
1.Getting married to 14 wives
2.kissing black stone because idols worshiping is forbidden in islam
3.islam against humanity
Ect...
14 wives? I think you meant 4 wives.
@@Mary-st1zd Muhammad married eleven wifes so is he against islam???.
@@OlatundeNathaniel-u4b you are allowed to marry 4 wives at once, not more at once if a wife died then if capable you can add another. But I don't want to go into these things, Suleiman had over hundred of wives and he was loved by Allah, doesn't mean everyone can do it
Once you’ve kissed the stone you’ve literally worshipped it!!
Common sense, logic and morals literally go out the window when you talk to muslms smh 🤦
@@iamthechosenone10 Is kissing a cross same as worshipping it? I should stop kissing my children also.
@@mohamedyunusrafiq6930
1. What do Christians see Jesus as ?
2. What do Christians worship?
And I would never let my kids around your propht Momo smh
@@mohamedyunusrafiq6930
And muslms literally trample over each other just to kiss a black pagan Stone at the corner of a pagan temple ! If that's not worship I dunno what is 🤷♂️ LOL
@@iamthechosenone10he’s not even alive you clown
Its a preislamic pagan practice... Just like circling around the kaaba.
Have you seen your picture 🤢 circling around because that's the qibla the direction every muslim prays the black cube is a mosque not anything else I know it looks like a sattan cube but it isn't its literally a mosque people also pray inside of it
The Kaaba was there way before any pagan statues
Praying to Kaabas or stones was a common practice among pre-Islamic Arabs. Look up the history of the Nabateans
Dr. Ally states that there is nothing special about the black stone, but Muslims think otherwise
@@MoeCamera if the Kaaba was associated with Abraham (and ishmael) why don’t the Jews’ and Christians’ holy books ever mention it??????????
Just imagine this being in any other religion. Muslims would ridicule this act and have a field day with it. Zakir naik, Deedat, Estes, hijab et al would be laughing their asses off.
You’re absolutely right 😂
No because the act is not mandatory if you never knew the black stone existed your religion is still complete
@@AlwaysSoldierOn So throw it out. Get rid of it. Do not go close to idolatry.
@@petestreet7535 It's not idolatry, if I kiss an object am I worshipping it? What deity is the black stone representing? It is a corner stone like most buildings in that time were implanted with one except this one is said to be from heaven. If something is to believed to have been from heaven is that not a good reason to kiss or admire it? Like someone who buys a lamborghini may kiss their car out of admiration for it? Admiration is not idolatry. In what way is that associating partners with Allah?
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1“ ‘Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a carved stone in your land to bow down before it. I am the Lord your God.
I appreciate the Dr's experience, thank you. I also appreciate the host challenging the notion of the human mistake people may make around the stone. Thank you.
Poor guy hm
He is so smart. He avoided the truth so well. Wow.
Jesus said "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." John 14:6
Jesus is the way no one else
@@Irelandforever609hristians don't make sense by making jesus a god.. if god can be human, that means god can give birth to more gods.. even god can be in the form of animals and aliens.. so christians really don't make sense at all
It is simple to know what true religion are.. islam is the only religion that worship one god, christian one god in three identity, buddhism & hinduism one god in multiple identity.. in mosque there are no idols, in church there are jesus as idols & in temple multiple idols
@@Irelandforever609
Worship to Jesus is similar with worship to moses.
Both were prophets, sent with signs and miracles.
In moses time,
Moses was the way of heaven.
In noah's time,
Noah was the way of heaven and truth.
In Abraham time,
He was the way of truth.
Because Allah chose them as prophet to preach His word.
Old hebrew doesn't mention the word God.
Allah is the original name of God that every prophet worshipped and preached.
Israelities distorted this name and made it plural form elohim.
Watch genesis 1.1
Then they borrowed ancient wargodname yehweh who divorced his wife asherah.
Yahweh ( misreading yehova in Latin) bowed to el.
No prophet preached trinity but monotheism.
And Arabs inherited this name Allah since the period of prophet Abraham and his son ismael .
After a long time ishmaelities worshipped to one Allah by following prophet Abraham and his son ismael.
But gradually they began to associate Allah with 3 daughters and many deities for worship which was criticised in quran.
Though israelities received many prophets from Allah but last time Allah chose his last prophet from ishmaelities to give his final revelation Quran .
Prophet Muhammad ( peace be upon on him) re establish the true monotheism teaching of noah and Abraham and all other prophets that "There has no God except Allah "
Which is the key of entering heaven.
Quran (5:72)
How old was ahaziah when he reigned?
chronicles 22:2 "42 years old"
kings 8:26: " 22 years old"
How is he 2 different ages at the same time?
@@ET.s4 it didn't stop Jesus from being the way the truth and the life.. And again stop kissing a Stone
He's waffling. He doesn't have a clue what it is. It's completely pagan. It's a Shiva Lingham. It came from India. The Kaaba was a Shiva temple. Muhammad 's family were the temple pujaris. There are alcoves in the walls which held Hindu deities. This is why it's not mentioned at all in the Bible. Just shows that Islam is an ersatz religion with pagan roots.
This video forgets to mention some important info. The true reason WHY people anxiously want to kiss and touch the stone is not only cause Muhammad did it but because according to your sources the black stone absorbs sins ! Muslims believe the stone was pale white and it came from heaven. The reason it turned black was cause of people’s sins.
Obviously I don’t believe that , it just got dirty from 1000’s of years of touching and kissing.
In conclusion. Only God forgives sins not a stone. This is just my opinion and I’m stating the facts.
Hahaha the Blackstone didn't go black from kissing, touching or sin but this is what happens when a meteorite burns ups as it enters the atmosphere.
@@darth_veda Yes. Lol. Silly people with their silly logic. Only Allah can forgive sins!
@@papabear8253 The absorbing of sin i feel may have been in a symbolic way as in a meteorite impact that destroyed a nation hence absorbing their sin like in Noahs flood for instance.
Perhaps Arabs used to believe it, but that belief has nothing to do with Islam.
@@darth_veda Cool theory, are you a historian? If not I think you shouldn't just say whatever when it comes to Islam.
I think the main problem i have when it comes to the black stone is that kissing it makes all your sins go away. I believe we all know God only is capable of it. The fact that it is not mentioned in the Quran which is the direct word of God makes me doubt if actual kissing of the black stone makes your sins go away
Kissing it doesn't erase our sins, but touching it does.
Kissing and touching a stone does not remove sins. Only Allah has the ability to remove sins.
Thing is what I believe is that it doesn't have any power to erase any sins here in this life, only Allah can do that but on the day of judgement, it might be given the ability..not now, on the day of judgement, it might/will be given the ability to erase the sins of people who touched it in this lifetime. So if you have touched it in this lifetime, your sins aren't actually erased now or "ya a born again with no sins", it's on the day of judgement
I'm not saying that is it but that's what I think
It's just a stone right now.
So, Muslims kiss the black stone because it's like a corner stone???????? Really
Its just a symbolic ritual, Christians wear a cross around their necks and many Atheist's that I know believe in luck, like touching wood keeps away misfortune. The cornerstone just like the Kabbah is not something that we Muslims call on in prayer or worship!
@@Kabir8123
To your point, if whatever you are telling me is true, why is is that Muslims are obligated to pay a pygrimage to Mecca in an effort to kiss the black stone atleast once in his/ her lifetime. For a rebuttal, Christians don't wear crosses around their necks, its Catholics, Okay
@@chriskear4411 The whole point in the pilgrimage to Makkah, is to bear witness in one God (Allah), who has no partners, and we dress in 2 sheets of clothing (for the men), so there is no distinction between people in race, status, wealth, etc...
Once again, the cornerstone is not called upon in pray and nothing is said during the touching or raising of your hand towards it. It's just a symbolic act of respect, as that stone was given to the prophet Ibrahim (pbuh).
On the other hand, you Christians believe that God became part of his creation (he changed) when the Bible says, God doesn't change in Malachi 3:6. God came down to earth through a women's private member, God suffers a humiliating death, and you call on a human Jesus in your prayers. That my friend is blasphemy.
Catholics, Calvinists and I'm sure many other Christian denomination do wear a cross. It depends what Church you belong to?
@@Kabir8123 Correct Hajj has nothing to do with kissing the stone but rather cleansing your sins
@@chriskear4411 which Muslim goes to hajj to kiss the black stone ?
It's true that Muslim worship the black stone
so praying towards a magic tone is not paganism ?
lol
islam is colapsing
Sorry I just want to share what I know about the topic. My and some praying mat has kaaba picture on it. As we now praying mat can be stepped when we pray to Allah because kaaba is not we are worship. So when some Christian said we worship it, why don't they use the praying mat but with Jesus picture on it. Can they step it?
I hope you study more about Islam with intent to seek the truth.
@@HambaAllah-xn2zp why you pray and worsip a stone.
dont be ashame of your religium muslims, defend your magic stone
@@marcostation1000 dude noone worship black stone ,
If let's say hypothitically one has worshiped that stone ,
Then that person will be awarded with eternel hell fire forever ,
Or may be Allah knowns best .
@@mohammadmikail8962 stop worsiping stones, praying towards stones kissing stones, the Moon god La is a pagan god.
look up good La of the moon and leave islam pedofile mohamed cukt
Pagan Arabs were fighting over this stone before Islam at a specific occasion. All Prophet did was asked all to help in placing this stone. No one has mentioned Prophet kissed stone during that incident, or even revered this stone at all. Quran also doesn't mention this stone. Its Caliph Omer who convinced people to kiss this stone
4:59 whatever it's a symbol of Shiva. Muslim unknowingly revere Shiva. Petra is Pitara. Rudra, Sudra, surname Patra, Mitra, -stra suffix are directly or indirectly connected to the Muslim world.
Yes. Muslims worship the stop because Hinduism is the origin of Islam
There is no mention of Shiva in any of the Islamic texts. What are you on about?
@mohammedzayan5540 yes Shiva has moon crescent on his hair lock...thats why Muslims you have Creescent Moon on top of Mosque🤷♂️
@@Megaminddominator No. The symbol of the crescent was non existent at the time of the prophet. It was later adopted by the ottoman empire. It has no connection to shiva or any other god whatsoever. This is getting too desperate come on man
@mohammedzayan5540 So you are haaving something in the top of your mosque that Allah never approved? Ottoman approved Allah's symbol? Dont you know you should take images of Heavenly bodies as worship? Astafigurallah😵💫
It was narrated from Abdullah bin Ubaid bin Umair that a man said:
"O Abu abdur-Rahman, why do I only see you touching these two corners?" He said: "I heard the Messenger of Allah say: 'Touching them erases sins.' And I head him say: 'whoever circumambulates seven times, it is like freeing a slave.'"
حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ، أَحْمَدُ بْنُ شُعَيْبٍ مِنْ لَفْظِهِ قَالَ أَنْبَأَنَا قُتَيْبَةُ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا حَمَّادٌ، عَنْ عَطَاءٍ، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ عُبَيْدِ بْنِ عُمَيْرٍ، أَنَّ رَجُلاً، قَالَ يَا أَبَا عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ مَا أَرَاكَ تَسْتَلِمُ إِلاَّ هَذَيْنِ الرُّكْنَيْنِ قَالَ إِنِّي سَمِعْتُ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم يَقُولُ " إِنَّ مَسْحَهُمَا يَحُطَّانِ الْخَطِيئَةَ " . وَسَمِعْتُهُ يَقُولُ " مَنْ طَافَ سَبْعًا فَهُوَ كَعِدْلِ رَقَبَةٍ " .
Grade: Hasan (Darussalam)
Reference : Sunan an-Nasa'i 2919In-book reference : Book 24, Hadith 302English translation : Vol. 3, Book 24, Hadith 2922
@@loopydoopi
Stone couldn't forgive sins.
He is Allah who forgives our sins and granted our prayer.
Kaaba and it's blackstone are used as direction of prayer for unity.
@@loopydoopi
Direction was made by stone and granite
@@loopydoopi
Direction is needed for unity.
Kaaba is used to the direction of prayer.
Hazre aswad is used to the direction of tawaf during hajj.
Anticlockwise circumbulating Kaaba starts from this corner and ends into it.
Why don't you talk about full hadith of the Caliph. A hadith records that, when the second Caliph Umar ibn al-Khattab (580-644) came to kiss the Stone, he said in front of all assembled: “No doubt, I know that you are a stone and can neither harm anyone nor benefit anyone. Had I not seen Allah’s Messenger [Muhammad] kissing you, I would not have kissed you.”However, in the hadith collection Kanz al-Ummal , it is recorded that Ali responded to Umar, saying, “This stone (Hajar Aswad) can indeed benefit and harm…. Allah (swt) says in Quran that he created human beings from the progeny of Adam (as) and made them witness over themselves and asked them, ‘Am I not your creator?’ Upon this, all of them confirmed it. Thus Allah wrote this confirmation. And this stone has a pair of eyes, ears and a tongue and it opened its mouth upon the order of Allah (swt), who put that confirmation in it and ordered to witness it to all those worshippers who come for Hajj.
Also Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said in one of His hadiths:
“By Allah! On the Day of Qiyaamah, Allah will present the Hajar e Aswad in such a manner that it will have two eyes and a tongue to testify to the Imaan (faith) of all those who kissed it.” (Tirmidhi)
Exactly my bro! Why is this crucial information LEFT OUT?
Are you muslim, if I may ask?
It's a pagan meteorite
Umar bin Khatab = no benefit it's jus a stone
But the other side said Hajar Aswad will have two eyes and tongue to testify
Contradiction
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Revelation 20:15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire...
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@@loopydoopi indeed, they’re worship the black stone
I think that Dr Shabir's understanding of Islam is a rationalist one that has much in common with Muhammad Asad (and other rationalist thinkers).
You don't worship the black stone? Your Prophet said " kissing it will erase sins". And yet you call Hindu is paganism? If kissing the black stone is not paganism, then what paganism is?
The black stone doesn't forgive sins. It is only Allah who forgives sins
@@PaModouLoum-xt2rx AKA Brahman and it forgives you if you kiss a stone?
@@Bidion the stone doesn't forgive sins
@@PaModouLoum-xt2rx no, but God forgives your crimes if you kiss this black stone, right?
@@Bidion That was hilarious
Interesting conversation but it still isn't clear to me why Muslims so revere the Black Stone, when the only mention of it is in the Hadith(s); if it's of (so) great import why isn't it mentioned in The Qur'an?
I believe the black stone was involved in an incident where the Prophet had once shown his wisdom in settling a debate between the tribes regarding who should pick up and place it there. This was before his enlightment.
The stone is symbolic of the incident that united the tribes in a dire sitiation, and a symbol to remember that incident. So, rather than breaking the "idol", he might have left it there for us to remember that conflicts can sometimes be resolved with sheer logic.
Who knows.
Look dude, Muslims do not worship blackstone or Kaba. Blackstone has been defiled many times. Muslims do not care about it. In fact, founders of Saudi Arabia, The Wahabist, Puritanical Literalist Orthodox wanted the blackstone to be destroyed out of fear of excessive reverance or out of laymen ignorance of thinking god is there violating the principle of absolute oneness of god and polytheism, but left in place because most muslims objected and rose up in revolts and condemnation. Saudis also wanted to destroy prophet Muhammad decorated tomb, out of fear some people from unorthodox sect may worship the prophet when they visit. Yes, Islam is very strict on monotheism and hard on polytheism to the point of even destroying the founder of islam tomb out of fear of polytheism. Islam says no mediators with god. Muhammad cannot even intercede on your behalf for ur sins with god in life. In life, you reachout your hands to god only, the unseen creator of all.
The Black stone is not significant in our religion. I went to Mecca and did not try to kiss it nor touch it. If there were less people, I would probably observe what it is that is so special about this meteorite. But as it happened, there were always more than 20 people trying to reach the stone, even at odd hours like 3am or 4am... so I didn't bother. It has no meaning to me. It can neither benefit me nor harm me. I do not kiss it to make a wish for that is a nonsense practice. Any wishes I may have, I take my hand up and ask ALLAH, our LORD, the only one who can grant to me whatever it is I want. Allah does not prescribe for me to have to kiss the black stone to make my wish more likely to be granted by Him. In fact the black stone isn't even worthy of mention in the Quran. No reference to it even. Let alone a direct mention.
@@AmirRahman123 why to people walk around it
@@faithfultoyeshua4576 that's called tawaf ,
While walking all say la ilahalillaha ,
There is no god beside Allah he is only worthy of worship !
They do not say worship kaaba !
This sin cannot be forgiven in islam worshipping anything other than Allah ,
You will get hell .
He’s very contradicting! Islam is straight forward and he has no logic in his speech!! He’s just a another puppet of the curriculum set by man made references!! He doesn’t display that there is no need to kiss it!
What is the chemical composition of the black stone?
Plastic
Same Material of what's inside your TIN HEAD.....STONE
Decades ago scientists took a little fragment of the stone to study it and it doesn't match with anything on this Eart.
They say it came from out of space a.k.a meteorite but we know it came from Heaven.
It used to be white but turned black from people sins
@@khairt1731 that’s the biggest load of sh!t I have ever heard
FAKE CHRISTIANITY ❌ POSED
❌ The Christians claim Jesus is God, but the bible say no one can see God
( 1 John 4 : 20 - John 5 : 37 )
❌ The Christians claim Jesus is God, but Jesus said to the people our God is One
( Mark 12 : 29 - 31 )
❌ The Christians claim Jesus is God, but Jesus said, why do you call me good ?”No one is good except God alone ( Luke 18 :19 )
❌ The Christians claim Jesus is God, but the bible makes it clear God is not a man
( Numbers 23 : 19 )
❌ The Christians claim Jesus is God & knows the future, but the bible says
Jesus does not know the future ( Mark 13 : 32 )
I don't want to worship or praise no black stone
Same hindus says they kiss and milk statues just because it is out of respect for gods.
Islam the no.1 idol worshippers without you knowing you are doing😂😂😂😂shame that you cheaply defend such heresy against god.
Huzur did not answer, he avoided the answer.
There has no where in Quran about blackstone.
Don't believe man made hadith which wasn't came from Allah.
So, the conclusion is: Rightly so, the Quran doesn't speak about rituals. Therefore, to justify our un-Quranic acts, we need to refer to hadith. Such is the dilemma Muslims live in, unfortunately.
Islam is acult to worship the Pegan blackstone
Sahih al-Bukhari 1597
Narrated `Abis bin Rabi`a:
`Umar came near the Black Stone and kissed it and said "No doubt, I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit anyone nor harm anyone. Had I not seen Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) kissing you I would not have kissed you."
Sunan an-Nasa'i 2919
It was narrated from Abdullah bin Ubaid bin Umair that a man said:
"O Abu abdur-Rahman, why do I only see you touching these two corners?" He said: "I heard the Messenger of Allah say: 'Touching them erases sins.' And I head him say: 'whoever circumambulates seven times, it is like freeing a slave.'"
Grade: Hasan (Darussalam)
Reference : Sunan an-Nasa'i 2919 In-book reference : Book 24, Hadith 302 English translation : Vol. 3, Book 24, Hadith 2922
Your Muhammad likes 9 years olds
2:10 ...and another explanation is that those who have been revering and kissing the Black stone will be suffering with Stones and burned and heated in the fire!
Suffering for what? Submitting to God?
@@Halal_Dan No - suffering for revering and bending down to a Stone which is strictly prohibited by YHWH in the 10 Commandments of Moses. Exodus 20:3-4
3 "You shall have no other gods before[a] me.
4 “You shall *not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath,* or that is in the water under the earth. 5 *You shall not bow down to them* or serve them, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me,"
Muslims disobey the Law of God given to Moses by bowing down to the Black Stone and to the Kabah. *God calls this IDOLATRY!*
Anyone who does this or other practices, no matter what religion, is disobeying YHWH.
@@peaceinjesus5221 We dont have the same God so why compare islam with christianity?
@@mn-sz7kf That is true. Christianity has YHWH, the Creator of the Universe, who speaks every language, but Islam worships 'allah' the local god of Arabia who only understands Arabic. In Genesis, at the tower of Babylon, YHWH divided mankind up giving, them many languages, each of which YHWH knows because he gave them those languages, and one of those languages was Arabic among all the thousands of other languages. He knows every language. The local god "allah" received just one of these languages and doesn't have the ability to understand any of the others. This god 'allah' however has been disobedient, speaking against Almighty God, YHWH, with words of arrogance and falsehoods! YHWH will severely punish allah in the Day of Judgement.
@@peaceinjesus5221 Its not like we doesnt have translation, you can still read quran in different languages or tafseer. Because quran was ascended from heaven to middle east, not in North/South America, Africa, Australia, Europe. This is the main reason why we read in arabic. Even jesus pbuh is an arabic. Also, i can see you dont have much knowladge and only think that english is the only language. Allah means "god" in arabic, literally in arabic bible translation they use the word "Allah" since 1970's/80's. Allah have 99 names for example Ar-Rahman and Ar-Rahim. The word "God" is sorta easier to say.
If I use Shabir's ideology on only one account of someone seeing Muhammed kiss the Black Stone, which he seems to be questionable. Could that same principle be applied to Muhammed's single account on how he was revealed about Islam?
Who else was there to verify Muhammed's claims?
Angel Gabriel came in human form multiple times to prophet Muhammad while his companions were with him. So yes there were eyewitnesses
Bible says God created man in his own image. So God looks like us. So we relate to God as our father. He calls us his children. So we have a personal relationship with God.
Jazakallah for this. Very interesting.
Didnt the pagans before Islam worship stones including the black stone ????????
I just see this Shabir Ally walking around the question whitout no answer at all, 1.- what is the singnificance of the black stone?? no answer
2.- Why do muslims revere the black stone?? no answer either 3.- Do the muslims revere the black stone?? (the answer is very obvious, YES!) a very vague answer from MR. Ally, my question is why muslims worship and frenetic kissa stone?? why?
You mean like the wailing wall by jews ...in Jerusalem?
rather than feed you an answer he presents information and allows you to make your own judgement. it is not in the qur’an.
Kissing ston hozre aswad, clean your sin ,that s why ston become white to black, it's not shirk ,contradict one and other.
It's like puja or ston worship.
alah is baal ancient god
This man lied on the Bible. God created man in his own image. But this man says God does not look like anything that walk earth..
These performative behaviors in Islam are puzzling. No one knows why people kiss the black stone, they just do it because Muhammad did. Muslims are left unguided as to why. It is very similar to other performative issues in the hadith. What foot to enter the bathroom, what side to sleep on, etc. It seems Islam has a talismanic undercurrent that expects adherence to outward performance it equates with righteousness. The fact that many Muslim memorize the Quran and repeat it without knowing what it actually communicates means the words are treated as a magical talisman similar to "Open Sesame".
Idk if its true, but i've heard somewhere that the black stone was actually a white stone that came from heaven (jannah), but when it came in contact with earth it became black. I also heard somewhere it is also linked with adam pubh.
@@skepticalzostrianos9875 Yes that's what the Hadith says
Yeah, that's the sad reality.
That's why, Allah is always reminding again and again, repeatedly.
That "Why don't you think?" "Why don't you ponder upon?" "Why don't you reflect?"
And people just blindly follow
The external reinforces the internal. If you forces a smile, you will feel better. In the same vein, praying and doing the others Pillars of Islam (all external actions) reinforces the faith (an internal characteristics).
@@fgtrhwu2 Ouf okay good, i wasn't sure about it.
Christ is the cornerstone.
The black stone,Kaaba, praying towards the direction of the Kaaba, circling the Kaaba and trying to kiss the stone or touch it seem so pagan.
I respect Shabir Ally very much because he’s probably the only honest Islam apologetic in the world, but everything about Mecca, the black stone and Kaaba feel so pagan.
If they were relevant, why are they NOT mentioned in the Bible? Why would God hide such important things to Him from all the prophets of the Old Testament and even the people in the New Testament?
@@ad_wang Allah was the creator God that the Pagan Arabs worshipped. He was known as the Unseen God, Creator God, Sustsainer of All. Still, they worshipped idols, called 'partners' or 'associate'. They believe Allah was too elevated and had to find a way to get to him. They took the idols as mediators and intercessors. Allah had no image at the kaaba.
The Jews of Arabia and also the christians used the word Allah to mean The Supreme God. It was the same for the Pagan Arabs as stated ny Alfred Guillaume, a british scholar of the bible. Read something from scholars instead of polemists.
The semitic people had a culture of designating a stone to God's house. It is there in the hebrew bible. Read the story about Jacob. He sleep on a stone, had a dream, annointed the stone, Called it house of God, BethEl. In Arabic it is called BaitAllah. El is a cognate of Allah.
The jews have three pilgrimages. One of them is festival of Sukkot, called festival of the booth. You will find about this festival in Deutoronomy. In the Mishnah Sukkah, it goes into details about how the festival is celebrated. The Jews would circle and Altar seven times and say "Lord please save us, Lord please grant us success".
The Hebrews, Israelites, Jews and arabs have a lot in common in their cultures. They are semites.
In Psalms 138:2 Kind David says he will bow toward the holy temple of God.
"I will bow down toward your holy temple and will praise your name for your unfailing love and your faithfulness, for you have so exalted your solemn decree that it surpasses your fame"
@@arasen6843
The problem with your first submission is that, Muslims believe “Allah” is not just a title (God/god) but rather the proper name of God. For instance, Muhammed’s father was called Abdullah (which means slave of Allah), yet he was a pagan. It’s the reason why Muslim don’t translate Allah into “God/god”, even in the English Quran.
However, the name of God in the Bible is YHWH (Yahweh) and it occurs 6,800 in the Old Testament. How did Muhammed forget the name of God? Even in the English version of the Shahada, it contains “Allah” and not “YHWH”. And if “Allah” simply means “God/god” which the Arab Christians and Jews mistakenly use to refer to their God (as just a title), then the shahada in English won’t even make sense, because you can’t say; “There’s no God but God…”
By the way, don’t forget that the Arab Christians also used the word “al-Ilah” (a title) to refer to God even before Islam began in Arabia. Do you remember when the Malaysian government stopped the Catholic Church from using Allah to refer to the Christian God, as they believed it is exclusive to Islam?
So, an Arab Christian might use “Allah” (although I believe they should use al-ilah) as simply the title “God”, but an Arab Muslim would use it as the proper name of his God/god and not just a title. For instance, YHWH constantly refers to Yeshua as His Son, yet Allah hates it when people refer to Isa as his son. Even the Arab Christians don’t refer to Jesus as Isa, but rather Yasou.
Also, if Muhammed preached Allah, whom the pagan Arabs, Christians and Jews already knew, why did they reject Muhammed until he spread Islam through conquering?
@@edward1412 We, muslims made that into a proper name. It is confirmed by scholars that The Jews, Christians and Arabs used the word Allah to mean God. Even in Aramaic the word for God is AalaH or Allaha.
I could use the same argument against you. The new testament which is all about Jesus is written in Greek. Yahweh is none even mentioned once. The word used to mean God are Theos, Kyrious and Pater. The New Testament is the inspired word of God according to christiand and it is the same God of the old testament. Did God forget his ancient name Yahweh? How did Mark, Matthew, Luke and John forget the name of Yahweh?
The Shahada is "La ilaha illAllah". Which translate to There are no diety except Allah. Ilah means god or diety. It is anything that is worshipped. The sun, the moon, idols or human being. Whereas Allah refers to the one worthy of worship. That is why some people translate the shahada as There is none worthy if worship except Allah. The Quraysh, the pagan Arabs took idols as ilahs apart from Allah. They took idols as false gods in addition to the real God Allah. The Prophet's message was to preach the monotheist of Allah, the supreme and creator God.
You believe the christians should use Al-ilah. What about the aramaic christians? The word for God is Aalah or Allaha in Aramaic. Some scholar said Allah in Arabic is a loan word from the Aramaic's Allaha/Aalah.
The Pagans rejected the messenger because their love for idols was equal or greater than Allah. This is mentioned in the Quran. They saw their grandfathers worshipping idols and said we will stick to that.
All religions have pilgrimage, we as muslims all religion came from God but was later corrupted by idolatry, corruption texts etc.
@@arasen6843
In the Old Testament, you will find out that many prophets and men of God built temporary ALTARS to sacrifice to God.
In Genesis 28:10-20, there was a specific reason Jacob did that. He simply found a normal stone and used it as a “pillow” in his sleep. However, he had a dream about God’s promise during his sleep and when he woke up, he believed the place he had slept had God’s presence. It was the reason why he called it the “House of God”. When he got up in the morning, he set up the stone as a PILLAR and poured OIL on it before calling the place Bethel. What is significant here isn’t the “stone” but rather the location where he had the dream. Had he slept on a wood, he would have done the same thing to the wood. This experience by Jacob is different from other religious “stone” reverence, including the black stone in Islam.
Hinduism, which is the oldest religion known to man has the “Shila” stones and Islam has the “black stone”. There have been so many religions in history that revered a particular stone. If you read Acts 19:35-41, you would realise that the Greeks also worshipped the fertility goddess called Ephesus Artemis and she was associated with a SACRED STONE that was believed to have fallen from JUPITER.
The Jews NEVER had a particular stone that they revered.
Leviticus 26:1
“Do not make idols or set up an image or a SACRED STONE for yourselves, and do not place a CARVED STONE in your land to bow down before it. I am YHWH your God”.
The Jews having three pilgrimages ( Passover, Shavuot and Sukkot) doesn’t mean Muslims’ pilgrimage to Mecca or Hindus Kumbh Mela is also from God.
God gave these festivals to the Israelites and we both know why they observed them. However, this is different from Muslims pilgrimage to Mecca. Muhammed conquered the Kabah which were used by pagans, and claimed that Allah is the only true God, yet he kept ALL the practices the pagans used to observe. If you read about Arabia before Islam, the Jewish and Christian Scriptures, etc., you will realise that the Quran is made up of stories and practices that were already known.
1. The Arab pagans used to worship at the Kabah. Muhammed kept this.
2. The Arab pagans used to venerate stones before Islam.
3. Arab pagans used to pray towards Mecca before Islam. Interestingly, Muhammed started his Islamic religion praying towards Jerusalem.
4. Muhammed used to fast during the day of Ashura, which was a day the pagan tribe of Quraish used to fast, until he invented Ramadan.
5. The walk between Safa and Marwa was also a pagan ritual before Islam.
It’s fascinating that although Muhammed claimed that all the prophets were Muslims, Islam practices are no where found in the Scriptures, apart from the ones Muhammed copied from the Scriptures. Why isn’t the Mecca pilgrimage among the pilgrimages of the Jews? Why didn’t Jesus Christ tell His followers about the Kabah, the black stone and Mecca?
I dont understand.
First he said mohamed kisded the stone
Then said he didnt but touched it with a stick.
Did he kiss it or not?
Dr. Shabir, this is simply what you believe. And everyone is entitled to believe what they want. This is not science. It’s not testable, repeatable, and falsifiable evidence. The name of this channel is let the Quran speak but you can’t use it to back up what you believe. Kissing the rock, circling the rock, and praying towards the rock is systematically idol worship and not found anywhere in the Quran meaning god neved mentioned this.
Jews cry to the temple and sometimes kiss it, is it idol worship? Kissing the stone isn't idol worship. No Muslim believes that the black stone is God.
@@phenomenal17playz I dont care what anyone does. Im not their judge or yours. If you think performing some sort or any sort of ritual with any rock is what you need to do to go to heaven, then go for it. What I do know is that you cant find any evidence for these rituals in the Quran, therefore I will never do it. I apologize for calling it idol worship. Peace.
Please dig deep you went into the worst. You just dived in Uthman's phillosophies. There is no proof that the quranic character, Muhammed exists in that sense. Search the history of the Kaaba and how muhammed was influenced by satan to bow before pagan black stone and cause all his followers to do so too
@@phenomenal17playz yes it is, it was destroyed for a reason. Don't justify nonsense the first kiss of the stone happened when muhammed recited satanic verses.that is in your quran
You need to understand between the lines. He's very subtle in explaining the matter. He says that the black stone isn't mentionned in the quran. That the sources about revering it are scarce and somewhat contradictory and that men have a tendency to amplify things. He won't say frontally it's idol worshiping, it's a myth etc
But Islam says idol worshipping is haram.stone is also an idol an object stone,table,chair they are idols things
An idol is an image or a representation of a God/Godess and the black stone is neither. Don't try to give idols a definition of your own.
@@XYZ-hj3bt Keep what ?
Shabir is a true definition of being “Delusional”
The Kaaba is pre-Islam. Why pay a pilgrimage to a structure that don't belong to your belief? Make me understand.
I believe the black stone was involved in an incident where the Prophet had once shown his wisdom in settling a debate between the tribes regarding who should pick up and place it there. This was before his enlightment.
The stone is symbolic of the incident that united the tribes in a dire sitiation, and a symbol to remember that incident. So, rather than breaking the "idol", he might have left it there for us to remember the story and that conflicts can sometimes be resolved with sheer logic.
Who knows.
Can you share the source of this hadith?
Might might might ..ok
According to how i see it .when Muslims face it everyday..they are actually worshiping it as they prostrate
I hope you don't speculate that what you don't know.
@@HambaAllah-xn2zp nope. That's ignorant especially in matter of faith. Wise people don't blindly believe in something😉
Pagan Arabs were fighting over this stone before Islam at a specific occasion. All Prophet did was asked all to help in placing this stone. No one has mentioned Prophet kissed stone during that incident, or even revered this stone at all. Quran also doesn't mention this stone. Its Caliph Omer who convinced people to kiss this stone
So what Sheikh is saying is that it is old pagan tradition
The black stone used to be an idol. It is reported from one of the companions of the Prophet that he said "Hidden shirk (ascribing partners to God, idolatry), is as difficult to detect as it is to detect a black ant standing on a black rock, on a moonless dark night."
I think the black stone serves as a reminder that although our goal is to worship only Allah, there's still some hidden idolatry in us which we must be aware of.
The other function is obviously as a "good omen". The arab tribes were arguing about which tribe leader would have the honor of putting the black stone in its place during the reconstruction of the Kaaba. The Prophet reconciled them by putting the stone on a piece of cloth; each tribe leader grabbed a corner of the rock, while the prophet put it in its place - so that everyone had the honor of putting it back there. So for me it has two functions: a reminder of the hidden idol within us, and a reminder of the unity between people.
cool to know, ty!
Your last sentence was very beautiful great view point thank you very much for sharing!
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@Uni dhe Haruni, really? You need a stone to remind you that? Instead of asking help from YHWH? Really? You are asking a stone for help? You are trusting a stone instead of YHWH? Unbelievable!
Would you kiss and embrace the hidden idols in you? It's like drinking liquor to remind you of your disdain for it.
The stone is part of a glassy meteorite that nomadic people saw landing in the desert, at night.
In the morning, they found it and saw it as a message from a god.
Later, when the prophet removed the idols from the Kaaba, he realised that people needed a focus, so he left the black stone.
"When Adam was expelled from the garden of Eden, where all the stones were white, he took the stone as a souvenir. Over time, the stone became black from the sins of mankind".
yep. just researched the subject - it is nothing but a meteorite stone and i cannot believe it is being taken as something to worship so violently :) on energy level it has a very negative low vibration and the silver metal here is used to amplify and conduct its energy. No wonder there is so much violence in the communities of its worshipers and they are brainwashed to the point of being unable to think independently.
I thought maybe Muhammed grabbed the black stone from the sly while he was riding his imaginary flying horse! Hahaha!
No need for any stone, Jesus is the rock on which many will stumble.
Very true. He is a rock. And your stumbling on account of your worship of him.
@@besharafereg2198 you must remember, Jesus never rebuked anyone who worshipped him. islam has no foundation.
@@foundthetruth2003 and God made jesus ...but man made Kabba
@@mensreus who taught you God made Jesus?
@@foundthetruth2003
Then who made Jesus and Adam?
Unfortunately, Shabby cleverly dodged the question, " why do the Muslims kiss the stone ?"
@SoloesUnmensage okay, i will do and return.
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If I kiss a photograph of my mother or child or wife, does that count as worship?
Great point Alhamdulillah
You are justifying nonsense. What sentiment do you have with a random stone in a pagan cube in mecca?
@@mortalmanengineering1767 the sentiment one feels when their heart opens towards Tawhid
Omer Ali, how many hadiths has anybody written about your mother or child or wife? And how many hadiths are there about the stone?
Legitimate question when a Christian or Catholic kisses or bows to a cross is that worshipping a cross? I dont think so. What about when a Jewish person bows and kisses the wailing wall in Jerusalem is that worshipping the temple mount? Or worshipping at the temple mount? The latter makes much more sense than the former
But why they kiss the black stone.. the answer is not satisfied
You have to touch the stones to have your sins taken away.
According to what source?
May Allah forgive you. I do not think you're Muslim though. You're just trying to instigate.
@@AmirRahman123 correct, I don't follow pagan practises of touching and walking around the black stones
It doesnt take away sins.. who told u that.. what part of the universe these ppl gaining this info from
@@Fizzy332 It was narrated from Abdullah bin Ubaid bin Umair that a man said:
"O Abu abdur-Rahman, why do I only see you touching these two corners?" He said: "I heard the Messenger of Allah say: 'Touching them erases sins.' And I head him say: 'whoever circumambulates seven times, it is like freeing a slave.'
Sunan an nasai 2919
I kiss a stone, touch it , and pray towards its direction however i don't call it worship because stone worship is wrong 😂. Very sound logic
What difference does it make which way you argue.
People from all across the world go to kaaba and go around the stone is as good as worshipping.
So condemn other sects but do the same what you condemn for others.
Most irrational and cunning behaviour.
in the past some sect had stolen the black stone and they kept it for a long time but still muslims face toward makkak
The black stone used to hold idols of the pegan gods Mohammad was given up to a pegan god
Saudi Arabia is making top dollars from this tradition
Great video all in all 👏🏼sensible, fact based and researched
Unlike your view, in fact, it was not a normal reverence, but a "daily required prostration" around this black stone at Kaaba in Mecca only in order to worship one mythical Allah limited in the sky.
Moreover, by some Hadiths, Mohammed and Muslims also believed that anyone who kissed or touched this sacred stone idol, his sin will be forgiven and cleaned.
@@sgma4m irony ?
The Blackstone is alive, it will bear witness for all Abduls who touch or kiss it on the judgement day and their sins are forgiven. The Blackstone was white but turned black due to absorbing the sins of those Abduls that kissed or touched it. The Blackstone was sent by Allah from his paradise. Muslims like the pagans kiss or touch the Blackstone and worship it,it is one of their deities. Abdul Shabbir Ali conveniently skips discussing the hadiths that tell about the divine nature of the Blackstone because he is embarrassed by the pagan practice of worshipping stones 😂😀😀
so then Muslims do worship YHWH as it also an Arabic name for God
YaHuwa means "Oh he is" in Arabic "Or he is the only one who truly is" same as YHWH
Why don't you throw the Pegan black stone away
Do Muslims worship the black stone? Yes. Take away the black stone and there is no Kaaba and there is no need to face the Kaaba when you bow down in Salat. So yes, the black stone is the object. That is why they kiss it until it turns black.
Lol you are wrong at every point
@@Hamza000h, Muhammad himself never led Muslims without having to come back to that cuboid structure. He never went to that structure without paying special attention to the stone. And, venerated Islamic sources know that their stories are not complete without a mention of that stone thing. Apparently, the stone came from Janna. Not sure the location of Muslim’s Janna where physical stones shoot out from-Muslims! 🙄Sigh! 🤦♂️. Holes, holes and more holes in the narrative. But, I guess to you, that Muhammad and all Islamic sources are wrong at every point. Throw them under the bus and let me watch you do so. I’m waiting.
The only cornerstone you need to kiss is Jesus he claimed to be the cornerstone of all. no one can go to the father unless they believe in Jesus Christ
Very interesting explanation. The Study Quran gives two different commentaries for Surahs 17:73-75c and 85:3c. These commentaries seem link to the Black stone. The former refers to a concession-type to Makkan people's desire to hang on to pagans and the latter to witness the covenant with God. There is also a story that this stone was part of a meteorite and later it broken up into a number of pieces. It is not clear if any scientific examination was carried out on a sample taken.
I think doing that is like questioning God🤔
@@DrillAlley Not so. God has left to us look, listen, study, learn, marvel at his wonders. A carbon dating could be useful. It may show the origins of the site and its people going back to the very beginning.
@@stevenkelly7986 You need to look for an international sponsorship to get a minute sample for scientific examination in a leading university. Perhaps a MSc or PhD project.
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Dear Heavenly Father, I come to you, to confess that I am a sinner. I have done some things in my life that I am not proud of and I repent of my sins. I believe that Jesus died on the cross for my sins and that He arose from the grave and that He is alive today. I ask that you forgive me of my sins. I believe and I will follow the teachings of the gospel. I proclaim that Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. AMEN...
@@stevenkelly7986
After Jesus,
Gospel was written in hebrew & greek by mark, Matthew, john, Luke and they added many word from their own.
For example,
Jesus adressed his God as aramaic word " Rabb" meaning Lord which was written in hebrew " Aabb" meaning Father.
Jesus said him " word of God" which is true.
In the begginning of Gospel,
John distorted the true meaning of " word of God" and gave his own explanation.
"Word of God" is title of Messiah & it is not relating to the God's everlasting uncreated unchanged entity.
Whereas Gospel writter John introduced the idea of existing 2 god[...... Word with (first) God, Word is( second) God ] in the begginning of Gospel without understanding the meaning of word of God.
Jesus spoke on aramaic where God name is Alaha which is similar to arabic Allah.
Arabs inherited the name of God " Allah " since the period of Prophet Abraham & his son Ismael ( peace be upon on them).
Early zews distorted the holy name of God & made it plural form " elohim ".
Then they borrowed wargod name Yahweh from surrounding pagans.
revelation 13 and they make and image to the beast and wondered who is like beast who can make war with him[ SATAN gave the Beast great authority]
Is a pagan practice just like Islam.
@Tawheed Deen idols u say. Your whole religion is full of idols. U worship the kabba and kiss a stone to forgive your sins. Pagan by any other name is Islam.
What is proof
@𝚜𝚝𝚊𝚛𝚍𝚞𝚜𝚝 look what?
@𝚜𝚝𝚊𝚛𝚍𝚞𝚜𝚝 109 Qur'an
Say: O disbelievers
لَا أَعْبُدُ مَا تَعْبُدُونَ
I do not worship what you worship
وَلَا أَنتُمْ عَابِدُونَ مَا أَعْبُدُ
Nor are you the worshippers of what I worship
وَلَا أَنَا عَابِدٌ مَّا عَبَدتُّمْ
Nor will I be a worshiper of what you worship
وَلَا أَنتُمْ عَابِدُونَ مَا أَعْبُدُ
Nor will you be the worshippers of what I worship
لَكُمْ دِينُكُمْ وَلِيَ دِينِ
Your religion is for you, and my religion is for me.
Pagan Arabs were fighting over this stone before Islam at a specific occasion. All Prophet did was asked all to help in placing this stone. No one has mentioned Prophet kissed stone during that incident, or even revered this stone at all. Quran also doesn't mention this stone. Its Caliph Omer who convinced people to kiss this stone
Greetings my people,yea! Islam! Oh muslims thou art become idol worshipers, be still! Repent & be forgiven for the sword of GOD is upon thee, HIS indignation draw't near know this! HIS wrath is upon ye! Cleanse thy selves & be still Acts 19:35-36
Isn't that a pagan behaviour or at least their practice continued ? 🤔
No, because the pagans would call on their idols in prayer, whereas the Kabba and the stone are not called on by name or during any prayer. Rather, its just a symbolic act. Allah (swt) is the one we worship, and Allah (swt) is not a cube or a cornerstone!
@@Kabir8123, Why at all do you have to have the Kaaba, the stone, Marwa and Sarfa, face the East while praying and so on? Yet, you must not associate anything else with Allah swt?? Really? Why so much associates in this ☪️ Islam?
@@Kantz1 (you must not associate anything else with Allah swt?? Really?) Yes, we Muslims don't associate anything to our creator Allah (swt), full stop, that answers your question. What about the other practices? Well, we pray in one direction from all around the world, symbolising one creator Allah (swt). That direction is the key for unity, as we Muslims believe in unity and the Kaaba is the qibla (direction), its not a God that we call on in prayer.
As for Saffa & Marwa, it is part of the pilgrimage which signifies the suffering bored by Hajar (Hagar) wife of the prophet Ibrahim (pbuh), who Allah (swt) showed mercy to. Muslims, commemorate this act in order to honour her suffering and seek Gods-Allah (swt) mercy too. What's wrong with that? I mean, Its got nothing to do with pagans or other deities, right?
The associations that your referring to, all have a story or reason behind the acts. You really need to learn about Islam, instead of throwing unscholarly like questions, because Islam ☪️ isn't just a religion, rather its a way of life. Salaam (peace)
@@medusa7872 Abdullah means servant of Allah (swt), stop playing with meanings. The pagans called on idols to associate partners with Allah (swt), this is totally forbidden in Islam.
The prophet Muhammed (pbuh) did not worship idols nor did he invite people to worship them, rather he said the idols are powerless and there is only one deity worth of worship, which is Allah (swt) meaning the only one worth of worship. That's the reason why he was prosecuted by the Quresh for calling people towards monotheism (Tauhid).
And what do you believe in? What's your religion?
@𝚜𝚝𝚊𝚛𝚍𝚞𝚜𝚝 During our prayer, his name is mentioned in the following manner, "I bear witness that there is no deity but Allah (God), and I bear witness that Muhammed (pbuh) is His servant and His messenger."
Now what's wrong with that and what's your problem?
Is Jami` at-Tirmidhi 959 a strong or a weak hadith?
@UCHIHAVEGETA-wo4sbAssalamu alaikum wr wb
Brother, a Christian once said this to me, and my lack of knowledge prevents me from answering properly. What say you?
May Allah Azza Wa Jalla reward you.
_"Concerning the virtue of touching the Yemeni Corner, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Touching the Black Stone and the Yemeni Corner indeed erases sins.” (Narrated by Ahmad from Ibn ‘Umar; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Jaami’, no. 2194). What the purpose human worship to God ? To get His mercy, and He erases our sins . If touch Black Stone and Yemeni Corner erases human's sins, its called worship. Or......... Are The Black Stone and Yemeni Corner representative from Allah in earth ?"_
It's Hasan, meaning not weak but at the same time not strong.
As far as i know when Adam as. was buildng the first masjed (Kabah) Allah Azza wa Jallah sent this stone from Jannah like a sign of approval of this masjed in the eyes of Himself and sent this stone as a piece of brick of His contribution to the first temple(Masjed) built on Earth in history by fist man's (Adam as.) hand.
So Kabah is the first masjed built by Adam as. later rebuilt by Ibrahem as. having a Heavenly brick as a sign of God's approval and contribution.
We're u apostate?
@@gardeniaa89 What did u mean i could not understand sorry?
It could be a meteorite , why not give it for testing and find out ?
Wow thanks dear for clear information
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Revelation 20:15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire...
"Salvation Prayer"
Dear Heavenly Father, I come to you, to confess that I am a sinner. I have done some things in my life that I am not proud of and I repent of my sins. I believe that Jesus died on the cross for my sins and that He arose from the grave and that He is alive today. I ask that you forgive me of my sins. I believe and I will follow the teachings of the gospel. I proclaim that Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. AMEN...
Lot of Pakistanis are leaving Islam
Idol worship thats what it is, you are in kabe and all you strive to do is touch a stone!!! Good luck explaining it to God.
Doesnt the karan say not to worship stone idols! very very very strange !
6 small stone to worship. Space stones
The Black Stone is not mentioned in the Quran, but is mentioned in the hadith. Another nail in the coffin for quran a loners? May Allah guide all of us to the straight path.
It is used for starting tawaf during hajj.
@@nowfeltahmid6613 Tawaf was one of the pagan practices Muhammed copied from the pagan Arabs.
Narrated Abu Raja Al-Utaridi:
We used to worship stones, and when we found a better stone than the first one, we would throw the first one and take the latter, but if we could not get a stone then we would collect some earth (i.e. soil) and then bring a sheep and milk that sheep over it, and perform the Tawaf around it. When the month of Rajab came, we used (to stop the military actions), calling this month the iron remover, for we used to remove and throw away the iron parts of every spear and arrow in the month of Rajab.
@@elsemorris906 Narrated Abu Raja Al-Utaridi:
We used to worship stones, and when we found a better stone than the first one, we would throw the first one and take the latter, but if we could not get a stone then we would collect some earth (i.e. soil) and then bring a sheep and milk that sheep over it, and perform the Tawaf around it. When the month of Rajab came, we used (to stop the military actions), calling this month the iron remover, for we used to remove and throw away the iron parts of every spear and arrow in the month of Rajab. Abu Raja' added: When the Prophet (ﷺ) sent with (Allah's) Message, I was a boy working as a shepherd of my family camels. When we heard the news about the appearance of the Prophet, we ran to the fire, i.e. to Musailima al-Kadhdhab.
حَدَّثَنَا الصَّلْتُ بْنُ مُحَمَّدٍ، قَالَ سَمِعْتُ مَهْدِيَّ بْنَ مَيْمُونٍ، قَالَ سَمِعْتُ أَبَا رَجَاءٍ الْعُطَارِدِيَّ، يَقُولُ كُنَّا نَعْبُدُ الْحَجَرَ، فَإِذَا وَجَدْنَا حَجَرًا هُوَ أَخْيَرُ مِنْهُ أَلْقَيْنَاهُ وَأَخَذْنَا الآخَرَ، فَإِذَا لَمْ نَجِدْ حَجَرًا جَمَعْنَا جُثْوَةً مِنْ تُرَابٍ، ثُمَّ جِئْنَا بِالشَّاةِ فَحَلَبْنَاهُ عَلَيْهِ، ثُمَّ طُفْنَا بِهِ، فَإِذَا دَخَلَ شَهْرُ رَجَبٍ قُلْنَا مُنَصِّلُ الأَسِنَّةِ. فَلاَ نَدَعُ رُمْحًا فِيهِ حَدِيدَةٌ وَلاَ سَهْمًا فِيهِ حَدِيدَةٌ إِلاَّ نَزَعْنَاهُ وَأَلْقَيْنَاهُ شَهْرَ رَجَبٍ.
وَسَمِعْتُ أَبَا رَجَاءٍ، يَقُولُ كُنْتُ يَوْمَ بُعِثَ النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم غُلاَمًا أَرْعَى الإِبِلَ عَلَى أَهْلِي، فَلَمَّا سَمِعْنَا بِخُرُوجِهِ فَرَرْنَا إِلَى النَّارِ إِلَى مُسَيْلِمَةَ الْكَذَّابِ
That is his hadith. You have cut the hadith. He is talking about pre-Islamic times.
@@elsemorris906 All the Abrahamic religions performed Tawaf, and the Jews do it.
@@hazim2320 Why would Jewsband Christians worship the Muslim "god" who hates them?
Jazakallah, sheikh shabir.
Answer : YES - The STONE forgives SINS as a GOD and that’s WHY y’all Pray facing Kaaba 🕋 🪨
Dr. Shabir Ally Good man he's not radical that I think is nice
So why did Muhammad kiss the black stone himself ?
Black stone coming heaven
UFOs land tomorrow
Him: oh look Quran says....
Quran says Lord of the Worlds so there are other worlds with life hence UFOs
so worsiping stones is pagan like islam.
Black stone forgive sins that means the stone is muslims god.
they pray towards a stone and must travell to talk with the stone.
"Take the place where Abraham stood as a place of prayer" --> Abraham was never in what a couple of thousand years became Mecca, let alone by the Kabah!
There's evidence to suggest that he was, even in the Bible the Kaaba is mentioned as the first place of worship.
@@Halal_Dan There isn't. The only thing that has been suggested is some very stretched ideas that Abraham could have gone there by pushing the boundaries of the stories of the Midianites and the boundaries of geography to try to accommodate the idea that Abraham could have gone there.
In reality, neither Abraham nor any biblical figure would have gone to a place which didn't even exist until the 7th century! You see Makkah is a location in the deserts of the Hijaz, where there never was anything, or any reason for anyone to go there! It wasn't even on any trade route, but required a diversion from a trade route, which in reality no ancient people would take! There was nothing there to support or attact life or anyone to go there - it was simply an empty desert location! This precisely why, no archaeology has ever found anything there in Mecca apart from some late Byzantine temporary presence. There is no archaeology in Makkah to show it had any history or settlement there and this is why it didn't appear on any ancient maps made by Ptolemy. If you look up the original maps by Ptolemy you will find that there is no Makkah on them at all - except if you are looking at a modern reproduction of them, with the place of Makkah stuck onto it to show where it is today! Makkah not only didn't exist in the time of Abraham, but it was way too far in a hot desert for Abraham to seek to go to! We would be talking of a 600 to 1000 mile journey for Abraham to venture into a hot arid desert with no water....all the way south....for what reason??
Its a totally illogical idea and still less, for Abraham it would have been potentially his own death and anyone with him, as they could have died in the waterless desert, long before they got there!
...and again, what was the reason for him to make such a death venture into an empty hot desert to go to a place that didn't then exist??
No my friend - this story of Muslims is made up to try to support the moving of the religion of Islam, from Jerusalem, to Mecca! Jerusalem is where Islam began, not Mecca and it was subsequently moved down to Mecca along with Safa and Marwah and Jahannam - which are the 3 locations of Jerusalem - Sapha (renamed by Greeks to Mount Scopus), Moriah (Marwah) and Gehenna (Jahannam).
@@medusa7872 Literally provide any scrap of evidence that this is the case.
@@peaceinjesus5221 This position isn't supported by even your own scripture, Bakka(the other name for Mecca) is mentioned by name in the Psalms of David, with reference to the ZamZam spring that saved Hagar and Ishmael. Also the people of Mecca had an awareness of their origins from Abraham *long* before Muhammad was born.
@@Halal_Dan You are right, scripture does NOT support Mecca - the following is the case:
a) The Bible does NOT support any idea of Abraham ever being in a place called Mecca
b) The Quran does NOT support the idea of Mecca in the Hijaz (present Saudi Arabia) being the place of Mohammed, as the Quran describes a place with trees and water etc.
c) There is no evidence of the place now called Mecca, existing before the 7th century, since it does not appear on any ancient maps of the time.
d) Mecca is off the trade routes - to get to it, travellers would have to make a diversion to the west to get there - hence this is not a logical place to develop there in ancient times.
e) There were NO people living in Mecca before the 7th century as there is no archaeology showing any people ever lived there, until the invention of Islam.
Now you have copied a familiar propaganda argument that Baca is another name for Mecca! This idea from Muslims is Muslims playing with the word Baca to try to convince themselves that it was Mecca! If I ask you to explain the logic of this idea....you will get very lost, very quickly! Do you realise why?
The Bacca that you mention from Psalm 84:6, describes a place of water, which Jews on their pilgrimage to the Temple in Jerusalem, passed by, to be refreshed there on their journey. Its a place of Springs. Note that it is only a place of "passing through" - never the destination! It is not a place with a religious building in it! It is only a passing place where there are springs of water. Jews who were travelling from Galilee to the North of Jerusalem and Jews coming from the west and east, passed through this place called Baca for refreshment. You should realise that travelling through the Saudi Arabian desert was very dangerous because of the vast deserts that had no water. Even a journey from Mecca to hundreds of miles north was dicing with death. The Baca mentioned in Psalm 84 has nothing to do with the place you now called 'Mecca' in the Hijaz and Hagar certainly never took her son Ishmael across this desert as they would have died in it! Neither was there any reason for Abraham ever to venture across this empty waterless desert to risk his life for no reason! Even if Abraham would have gone there, he would have found nothing there ....no Mecca!
Psa 84:1 To the choirmaster: according to The Gittith. A Psalm of the Sons of Korah. How lovely is your dwelling place, O LORD of hosts!
Psa 84:2 My soul longs, yes, faints for the courts of the LORD; my heart and flesh sing for joy to the living God.
Psa 84:3 Even the sparrow finds a home, and the swallow a nest for herself, where she may lay her young, at your altars, O LORD of hosts, my King and my God.
Psa 84:4 Blessed are those who dwell in your house, ever singing your praise! Selah
Psa 84:5 Blessed are those whose strength is in you, in whose heart are the highways to Zion.
Psa 84:6 As they go through the Valley of Baca they make it a place of springs; the early rain also covers it with pools.
Psa 84:7 They go from strength to strength; each one appears before God in Zion.
Psa 84:8 O LORD God of hosts, hear my prayer; give ear, O God of Jacob! Selah
Psa 84:9 Behold our shield, O God; look on the face of your anointed!
Psa 84:10 For a day in your courts is better than a thousand elsewhere. I would rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God than dwell in the tents of wickedness.
Psa 84:11 For the LORD God is a sun and shield; the LORD bestows favor and honor. No good thing does he withhold from those who walk uprightly.
Psa 84:12 O LORD of hosts, blessed is the one who trusts in you!
.....No - Baca has nothing whatsoever to do with Mecca. Neither does the name even sound the same! A 'B' is very distinct from an 'M' ! All that has happened here is that some Muslim saw the word 'Baca' in Psalm 84 and wanted to believe that it was Mecca! He told other people that he had "found Mecca in the Bible" and......the rest is history!
If you do not worship it then why kiss and touch it to get you sins washed away? according to your Islamic believe it cleanse you from all unrighteousness.thats an act of worship.
No, worship is when something is venerated and adored as a deity. No Muslim adores or venerates the black stone as a deity.
Idolatry!!! Doom
Hahaha
Idolatry is the worship of an idol, an idol is an image or a representation of a God/Goddess and worship is when something is venerated and adored as a deity. The black stone is neither an image nor a representation of Allāh and no one venerates or adores it as a deity.
@@XYZ-hj3bt Because Allāh ordered so, simple.
Black stone was worship by pagans before islam!!
Masha Allah, thank you Dr. Shabir Ally for this great answer. May Allah (SWT) bless you, Ameen.
Anything new, Mohammed believed and touched the stone either by tongue, hand or stick,whichever, he paid a homage to the stone and enthroned it on all muslims.
Even those who are in other parts of the world pay their homage by facing the direction of the stone. Sheik Shabby has not told us why muslims PAY HOMAGE to ordinary stone.
Before Mohammed was Moses, and islam by quran always claim MUZZADIQQAN to torah and God of the prophets. Read 1King 19:18 and Ezek 8:16 also. Does this not tell you God of islam is not God of torah.
If you STUDY Ezek 11:12, is islam not following the Preislamics Worshippers of Quarysh ?
Takbeer!
Plain idol worshipping
Always interesting.
He doesn’t mention that in Islam it is believed the black stone was at first white, but it has since turned black because it took on the sins of the people who touched it.
Fraudulent explanation as most of the time.
Simple answer : Yes
Interesting. Jesus is sometimes referred to as the chief cornerstone.
Who designed the very “ feminine” setting of the stone? Why?
Muslims walk around an Agate rock and fight to kiss it believing it is something supernatural. Yes that really does not sound like pagan rituals 😳😳 ps throw in animal sacrifice and throwing stones at other stones that represent the devil. Oh Muslims how much do you pay to be part of such pagan rituals. Mashallat
5000$
Serious question, why do birds poop on the Kaaba?
The biggest lie ever told... Islam
Still didn't answer the question, why do Muslims *kiss* the Black Stone? Not "what will happen if you worship it". Do you have to kiss a cornerstone to know where to start a circulation?
The fact that people k1ll to see the black stone alone shows us that it's more than just a cornerstone. There was once a telling that says the black stone came from Heaven, it was once white, but because a sinner who has a lot of sins touched it, it becomes black, but even so, Muslims have no good reason as to why they kiss a black stone. A person once says Muhammad kiss it as well as themselves simply because it came from Heaven, but whatever reason it might be, it will still be idolatry. So it's either, Muslim kiss the Black Stone because it came from Heaven or they believe that there are sacred stones that give healing and blessings just as Crystal healing believers do, no matter what way it is, it will always be idolatry in the end.
Exactly these ppl are foolish and they even look like fools kissing a rock