One interesting note is I've had a 3 light set of P60cs that I have been using for a year and that fixes at least one issue 1. The softbox while not huge is designed to fit snug to the light, the elastic straps fit over the jut outs on the rear corners and then reflective flaps cover the sides of the light. That gives the softbox a lot of it's form though admittedly it is a little fiddley to get in place. Also, if using the 35 degree grid there is one corner that you have to unvelcro and revelcro to make sure one of the corners is properly aligned. So I think if you tried that you'd get better results out of it. 2. The 3 light kit's case has space all three lights, the grids on the top flap and extra space to accomodate the three softboxes collapsed into their bags in addition to the other accessories. I think it's stupid they didn't make the single light case big enough for that, but I just felt I would mention it. 3. The Mount provided with the light while seeming plastic and therefore cheap is pretty sturdy and reliable. I've had these hanging on light grids overhead, on wall mounts and on stands pointing down at 45+ degree angles and as long as things are tightened down I haven't had them move on me once. (Though admittedly you should safety chain anything hanging overhead.) Anyways, just 2 cents on that.
Good points! I'm glad to hear the 3 light set accounted for the extra accessories. I'll also say the mount has been holding up better than I expected, at least in some cases.
Tbh, i have 2 of them, one for a second light, the other one for the background when i can use it. & it’s an amazing « little » light. Maybe one of the best for panel light on the market. Perfect color fidelity, huge power, perfect to travel with it.. that is what i want for a light. Okay the soft box is not amazing, but i think they wanted to do something « easy » & little. I personally use the 300c as a main light & its great. Listening your video, i feel like you’re almost saying its a bad product haha (i’m french so it’s my appreciation ^^)
For what it does, it's a great light - I wouldn't have bought more than one if I didn't think so. I think Aputure went a bit cheap on some of the accessories, and didn't handle the BT Reset issue well. That said, those flaws don't change my overall opinion of the light.
I have two of them and recently started using them more. I got the aluminum yokes for them and it give them more mounting options. Instead of getting a 3rd I've considering getting a p300C or another brand with hire output to just flood a space in a compact unit.
Are you talking about the ones from ProAm? They look nice, I'm surprised Aputure didn't bother making something similar. The Nova's a great fixture; would easily pair well with these as a bigger/brighter option.
@@andrewsaraceni Yes the ProAm ones. Note, you can't store the yoke in the case with the light so it ads an extra step during setup and tear down. With the soft box you really only have the ability to change the angle when the base of the yoke is horizontal.
for the size and output, the P60C is way to heavy - the P60X is much lighter. its the main downside - because when ultra-portable, it makes no sense for a small light and a heavy tripod. if you are additionally using NPF batteries for this light, it gets crazy heavy and very unbalanced (because it got no yoke - so its very front heavy) - you need a good tripod and sandbags.
@@noBfilm Yeah it's definitely a fair amount larger/heavier than competing RGB panel lights. If you're mounting it flat/standing up, might be fine with the average light stand, but any extreme angles or complex rigging it needs good stands and sandbags.
One interesting note is I've had a 3 light set of P60cs that I have been using for a year and that fixes at least one issue
1. The softbox while not huge is designed to fit snug to the light, the elastic straps fit over the jut outs on the rear corners and then reflective flaps cover the sides of the light. That gives the softbox a lot of it's form though admittedly it is a little fiddley to get in place. Also, if using the 35 degree grid there is one corner that you have to unvelcro and revelcro to make sure one of the corners is properly aligned. So I think if you tried that you'd get better results out of it.
2. The 3 light kit's case has space all three lights, the grids on the top flap and extra space to accomodate the three softboxes collapsed into their bags in addition to the other accessories. I think it's stupid they didn't make the single light case big enough for that, but I just felt I would mention it.
3. The Mount provided with the light while seeming plastic and therefore cheap is pretty sturdy and reliable. I've had these hanging on light grids overhead, on wall mounts and on stands pointing down at 45+ degree angles and as long as things are tightened down I haven't had them move on me once. (Though admittedly you should safety chain anything hanging overhead.)
Anyways, just 2 cents on that.
Good points! I'm glad to hear the 3 light set accounted for the extra accessories. I'll also say the mount has been holding up better than I expected, at least in some cases.
Tbh, i have 2 of them, one for a second light, the other one for the background when i can use it. & it’s an amazing « little » light.
Maybe one of the best for panel light on the market. Perfect color fidelity, huge power, perfect to travel with it.. that is what i want for a light. Okay the soft box is not amazing, but i think they wanted to do something « easy » & little. I personally use the 300c as a main light & its great.
Listening your video, i feel like you’re almost saying its a bad product haha (i’m french so it’s my appreciation ^^)
For what it does, it's a great light - I wouldn't have bought more than one if I didn't think so. I think Aputure went a bit cheap on some of the accessories, and didn't handle the BT Reset issue well. That said, those flaws don't change my overall opinion of the light.
I have two of them and recently started using them more. I got the aluminum yokes for them and it give them more mounting options. Instead of getting a 3rd I've considering getting a p300C or another brand with hire output to just flood a space in a compact unit.
Are you talking about the ones from ProAm? They look nice, I'm surprised Aputure didn't bother making something similar. The Nova's a great fixture; would easily pair well with these as a bigger/brighter option.
@@andrewsaraceni Yes the ProAm ones. Note, you can't store the yoke in the case with the light so it ads an extra step during setup and tear down. With the soft box you really only have the ability to change the angle when the base of the yoke is horizontal.
Light enough to boom up as a hair light? Or should I get a F21c mat light?
So long as you're using a solid light/C stand, it should be fine.
for the size and output, the P60C is way to heavy - the P60X is much lighter. its the main downside - because when ultra-portable, it makes no sense for a small light and a heavy tripod. if you are additionally using NPF batteries for this light, it gets crazy heavy and very unbalanced (because it got no yoke - so its very front heavy) - you need a good tripod and sandbags.
@@noBfilm Yeah it's definitely a fair amount larger/heavier than competing RGB panel lights. If you're mounting it flat/standing up, might be fine with the average light stand, but any extreme angles or complex rigging it needs good stands and sandbags.
You get what you pay for. Glad I never got one.
I've been happy with mine, but a light that's even a fraction of the cost still shouldn't have had the BT Reset, etc. issues.
@@andrewsaraceni we ended up getting some P600c and P300c instead 😂
@@Bobsmithabc Well that's definitely an upgrade. 😂