Well that is an SQS-53C sonar, but there is one interesting part, after the initial short transmitted CWs, there is a CW-FM pulse that is either a bottom bounce, contact, or another vessel of the same type(More likely than not these are Arleigh-Burke Class Destroyers) I think it’s another sonar emitting, they are doing a sector search and that other one is pointing in a different direction, hence the lower frequency.
@@marksurgeon3088 He erased the videos, I sent an email to him. He told me it was too much info. Its a shame, because on those series of videos he had one about the ARA San Juan sinking and it was an actual awesome analysis.
Well the patterns are clear. For me it was an active sonar signal. But determining which one I wouldn't be possible. Im more from the electronic warfare section with radar 🤙 im not that deep into sonar warfare but this is awesome
when you go to school for a very long time and your instructors pound it into your head to memorize all the scales, scopes and modulations of these things, you will retain it forever...it never leaves you. @@su-25frogfoot74
Interesting fact is most of people will often think that sonar sounds like "pong" like in the movie and that is actually an echo bouncing back and forth due to the shape of the submarine is like a tin can
Different sonar modules produce different sounds. They don't all sound the same. I also think this sonar ping is from a surface vessel, and not actually a submarine. The sonar sound we hear in movies is based on a real sound, but is derived from earlier vessels, such as those from 1940s and 1950s, which did indeed produce a distinct "pong" when their sonar was active.
During the Cold War in the 80’s, Russia was always bragging about how their missile boats were impossible to track. So when they started to getting way too aggressive on the seas the US Navy decided to send a message… At the same time, all around the world, US Navy attack subs turned on their active sonars, right behind every Russian missile sub at sea. At that range these “pings”, which are more like a synthesized whistle, could be heard loudly inside their subs. It was a unambiguous way of saying. “dear Russian Navy, please cease and desist being a-holes. Strong message follows… Love, SSN 688
@@Benjamin-od8od there were three times I heard about this, possibly 4. Two were interviews with former submariners, however even with a gun to my head I’ll never remember their names or what program they were on. But I’m almost positive I read about it in the book “Blind Mans Bluff” and/or John Cravens book “The Silent War: The Cold War Battle Beneath the Sea”. Obviously the books are your best bet. If you haven’t read them already they’re pretty good. Ps. As a professional science geek, I absolutely love it when folks ask for references. Cheers! 😁
@@Benjamin-od8od also I seem to remember it happened around 1984-85. Around 82-84 Russian subs had been doing all sorts of crap. They carelessly rammed into one of our carriers and other ships/subs. They had been going into NATO territorial waters. They even got trapped, chased, and possibly damaged by the Sweden when they got tired of their nonsense and tried to sink one. I think it was called harsjarden incident, but please don’t hold me to the spelling.
I've been told by a submariner who served during that time that the purpose of the US attack boat fleet was basically just to go trail Russian SSBNs so that if war came they could be sunk before firing their missiles. This anecdote is in a similar vein and would not surprise me at all.
Kandi Klover yours is nowhere near that loud, yours just makes small tics. Military sonar can be in excess of 210db which if you were close enough too would kill you instantly
I've tried to download this and other hydrophone data from the online repo and the PhD responible (who was very nice) told me it has since been classified by the canadian navy, lol. Kinda sad though, I wanted to do my own research.
Not entirely, modern sonar use a Costas array which means that there is no pattern at all. I think this is because it's more accurate as it won't pitch shift like a normal ping would. There is still a Doppler shift though, and sonar uses that to measure speed of whatever they spot
Not really. Not only does the emitter of sound travel much more slowly in water, but sound itself travels _considerably_ faster underwater. Plus, the irregularity in the sound here suggests various deflections off of various objects and surfaces in a vast surrounding area.
Ever seen a piezo disk? They're a lot like that... The little brass disk as a chirper in your alarm clock could probably take 100v peak to peak, and its only about 3/4 in of piezo material. Ultrasonic cleansers use a ring about 1.5in across and 1/4in tall about 1/4 1/2 in wall thickness, and take like 10 20 30 watts. Naval sonar piezo crystals can sit comfortably in your hand. Well....the small ones can. And there is a massive dome of them in the nose of the boat.
Subs use active sonar only as last resort since it gives away their position, possibly even over hundreds of kilometers. Highly likely it's a surface ship, maybe navy training their sonar operators.
@@natowaveenjoyer9862 sonar sorta ruptures organs in humans up to a few hundred kilometers away i believe so who's to say the whales won't find it unpleasant
someone should send this recording to Jive Turkey, he's a retired US sonarman who does brilliant analysis and explanations of sonar recordings.
He has already explained an extremely similar recording probably the same type.
Well that is an SQS-53C sonar, but there is one interesting part, after the initial short transmitted CWs, there is a CW-FM pulse that is either a bottom bounce, contact, or another vessel of the same type(More likely than not these are Arleigh-Burke Class Destroyers)
I think it’s another sonar emitting, they are doing a sector search and that other one is pointing in a different direction, hence the lower frequency.
is there any reasons why i can't find his analysis videos?
@@Bebecazancioc24I can't find them either😮
@@marksurgeon3088 He erased the videos, I sent an email to him. He told me it was too much info. Its a shame, because on those series of videos he had one about the ARA San Juan sinking and it was an actual awesome analysis.
It's fascinating that you can hear the echos. The patterns make me curious as to where this was recorded and what it was hitting.
1. The Strait of Georgia.
2. Rocks.
@@UnitSe7en lol
It's AN/SQS-510 installed on Halifax class ships.
How in the world do you know that?
Well the patterns are clear. For me it was an active sonar signal. But determining which one I wouldn't be possible. Im more from the electronic warfare section with radar 🤙 im not that deep into sonar warfare but this is awesome
@@su-25frogfoot74 also because sqs510 is canadian sonar and this is recorded in canada
so, like, holden statos?
when you go to school for a very long time and your instructors pound it into your head to memorize all the scales, scopes and modulations of these things, you will retain it forever...it never leaves you. @@su-25frogfoot74
Interesting fact is most of people will often think that sonar sounds like "pong" like in the movie and that is actually an echo bouncing back and forth due to the shape of the submarine is like a tin can
Not always, every sonar system sounds different.
@@ReverseCard That is wrong.
Different sonar modules produce different sounds. They don't all sound the same. I also think this sonar ping is from a surface vessel, and not actually a submarine. The sonar sound we hear in movies is based on a real sound, but is derived from earlier vessels, such as those from 1940s and 1950s, which did indeed produce a distinct "pong" when their sonar was active.
@@TheRealYashNotFake it is actually correct, there are lots of sonar systems.
So that's where Dot Mod got that sound effect.
2-3-4 and march the 5th had amazing activity, if it wasnt an excersise they were really looking for something in the ocean, aka an enemy sub
This is almost certainly SQS-510 sonar from a Halifax-class frigate. CFB Esquimalt, the main Pacific Fleet base, is right down the bay from there.
This makes me want to go to a concert in Pompeii.
Kinda wish u made video longer because its a very relaxing sound to hear
For real! I can't find many videos of sonar pings like this, I love it!
It gives me intense anxiety.
Yea very relaxing, so much so that my ears start bleeding
Not if you’re underwater or even worse, on an enemy sub
During the Cold War in the 80’s, Russia was always bragging about how their missile boats were impossible to track. So when they started to getting way too aggressive on the seas the US Navy decided to send a message…
At the same time, all around the world, US Navy attack subs turned on their active sonars, right behind every Russian missile sub at sea. At that range these “pings”, which are more like a synthesized whistle, could be heard loudly inside their subs.
It was a unambiguous way of saying. “dear Russian Navy, please cease and desist being a-holes. Strong message follows… Love, SSN 688
source or some keyword so i can google it?
@@Benjamin-od8od there were three times I heard about this, possibly 4. Two were interviews with former submariners, however even with a gun to my head I’ll never remember their names or what program they were on. But I’m almost positive I read about it in the book “Blind Mans Bluff” and/or John Cravens book “The Silent War: The Cold War Battle Beneath the Sea”.
Obviously the books are your best bet. If you haven’t read them already they’re pretty good.
Ps. As a professional science geek, I absolutely love it when folks ask for references. Cheers! 😁
@@Benjamin-od8od also I seem to remember it happened around 1984-85. Around 82-84 Russian subs had been doing all sorts of crap. They carelessly rammed into one of our carriers and other ships/subs. They had been going into NATO territorial waters. They even got trapped, chased, and possibly damaged by the Sweden when they got tired of their nonsense and tried to sink one. I think it was called harsjarden incident, but please don’t hold me to the spelling.
I've been told by a submariner who served during that time that the purpose of the US attack boat fleet was basically just to go trail Russian SSBNs so that if war came they could be sunk before firing their missiles. This anecdote is in a similar vein and would not surprise me at all.
Like the sound not for too long
Wow thats an amazing sound. Beautiful in a way. What would be the most likely source of this?
Hello, +lumpysnake . This sound was generated by military sonar.
Could also be fishing boats. I have one
Wavelength military, sub or destroyer
Kandi Klover yours is nowhere near that loud, yours just makes small tics. Military sonar can be in excess of 210db which if you were close enough too would kill you instantly
Kandi Klover Lmfao you thought your boat could make a sonar ping that loud...
Great pings!
I've tried to download this and other hydrophone data from the online repo and the PhD responible (who was very nice) told me it has since been classified by the canadian navy, lol. Kinda sad though, I wanted to do my own research.
Oh the sound of 510 sonar.
Is the shift in frequency caused by doppler effect? (I am a newbie in sonar tech)
Yeah mostlikely
Not entirely, modern sonar use a Costas array which means that there is no pattern at all. I think this is because it's more accurate as it won't pitch shift like a normal ping would.
There is still a Doppler shift though, and sonar uses that to measure speed of whatever they spot
Not really. Not only does the emitter of sound travel much more slowly in water, but sound itself travels _considerably_ faster underwater.
Plus, the irregularity in the sound here suggests various deflections off of various objects and surfaces in a vast surrounding area.
The frequency shift is just that, it's an FM sweep or frequency modulation.
@@CrazyKiller1112 Doppler shift indicates change in target aspect.
One thing you can’t find online is how the sonar makes the sounds
A dome of piezo electric modules that pump massive amounts of wattage into the sea
Yup
Ever seen a piezo disk? They're a lot like that...
The little brass disk as a chirper in your alarm clock could probably take 100v peak to peak, and its only about 3/4 in of piezo material. Ultrasonic cleansers use a ring about 1.5in across and 1/4in tall about 1/4 1/2 in wall thickness, and take like 10 20 30 watts.
Naval sonar piezo crystals can sit comfortably in your hand. Well....the small ones can. And there is a massive dome of them in the nose of the boat.
Well its active sonar signal
Isnt it typhoon sub?
Subs use active sonar only as last resort since it gives away their position, possibly even over hundreds of kilometers. Highly likely it's a surface ship, maybe navy training their sonar operators.
AN/SQS-510 or AN/SQS-53？
Both sound the same to me, 3 rising tones.
cconn sonar switching to active search
C3PO nuttin' R2D2!
I think it's calling its baby
No wonder the sea life is dying, that would be torture to listen to..
Yeah I have no idea why 100 of whales beach them selves to die.. and jive turkey is the best
Exactly
The claim that sonar harms whales is not supported by facts.
@@natowaveenjoyer9862 sonar sorta ruptures organs in humans up to a few hundred kilometers away i believe so who's to say the whales won't find it unpleasant
Probably jewpacabra
for anyone wondering, this sound would be written like this: 𐃍