OASIS: The Amsterdam Incident
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 พ.ค. 2022
- In early 1994, Oasis hit the headlines before their first single had even been released. This is the full story of what really happened on a ferry to Amsterdam, told from start to finish for the first time.
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Not only has Oasis never gotten canceled from their behavior in the 1990s, but there is still actual demand for Oasis to reunite. They could sell out Wembley on a Wednesday if they really wanted to.
And that's how ya know they're true-blue rock n roll stars!!
people didn't get cancelled in the 90s thats new gay stuff
@@AL-PAKA Haha, yeah man
You think oasis was never cancelled in the 90's?
After Be Here Now dropped... the world outside of the UK was pretty much done with them outside of hardcore fans
People STILL have huge hate for the Gallagher bros... that when noise of misfortune happens to them, they are brought up for people to laugh at
@@MedalionDS9 Yeah lmao, the tabloids and media were out to get them for their behavior, and they're still seen as jokes in most of the rock world and many of my close friends agree. I'm the only Oasis fan in my friend group haven't really met another fan outside of the internet. Yet a reunion from them is in high demand but I'm sure a lot of people would also tune in expecting a trainwreck. Although I'll give them credit on the fact that I've never heard them say bigoted shit.
"We get on this ferreh... don't know how we get on this ferreh 'cos we're pissed right, but we got on the ferreh"
You've grown so much as a content creator as much as a musician and you're one of my favourites to watch. And it's not just that I am a fan of Oasis, The Stone Roses but as a music fan I do love the channel. I appreciate your inspirational knowledge and way of making videos.
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Aye. Dead-on, that assessment is! I very much enjoy his Oasis videos as a #MadFerItAmerican! Maybe it's because my father had a pretty damned-good, 'blue-collared' job that was a part of a labor union over here. Idk. But I immediately identified w/The Gallagher Bros & their working-class background. I loved a lot of Nirvana's tunes! Both the hits AND the deep cuts! But fuck me! I was no more than 12 when Cobain (allegedly) shot himself, & as I got a few yrs older, the fan worship was so intense, I was legitimately afraid one of my friends would "off themselves" to be like Cobain! And plus, I wanted laid, & that wasn't gonna happen w/long, greasy hair, shot-to-hell blue jeans, ratty flannel shirts, & shitty shoes! I wanted to dress sharp, have shorter hair, wear cool shoes, & then get laid! Oasis made all that possible! (except, of course, the getting laid part! Hehe. But that DID come shortly after I got a haircut, different clothes and shoes, & learned guitar!) I just hate that they'd already done Earl's Court, Maine Road, The Point Depot, Loch Lomond AND Knebworth before they really caught fire here! Oh, Wonderwall blew them up in America in Winter of December '95/January '96, but we weren't aware they were abt to do these HUGE, MONSTER FUCKING GIGS, to over a quarter of a million fans in August '96, because the internet wasn't everywhere! But they finally got their due, Stateside, & became a *true arena rock band* in '05, on the 'Don't Believe the Truth' Tour! They sold out Madison Square Garden, The Hollywood Bowl, Red Rocks Amphitheatre, The GMU Patriot Center, & Credit Union 1 Arena, just to name a few of the largest venues they sold out on that particular tour..
@@matthewrider6453 As a fellow yank, I know exactly what you mean by how long it took them to get their due here (exacerbated by Liam's seemingly constant sabotage or abandonment of US tours), although, in a sense, it was cool...I didn't come around to Oasis until they started making headway again with "Don't Believe The Truth", after which I went back and started listening to all the early b-sides and etc etc, I had been into much artier/punkier/experimental stuff (still am, but there's room for all of it now). But I had a friend that saw them multiple times before that, and he was seeing them in relatively small, largely general admission venues whereas in the UK, you get stuck with those massive, faceless, I-need-binoculars stadiums where it's not even worth seeing a show, if you ask me. In the same way, on Noel's first HFB tour I saw him at a smallish theater and it was very easy to get close to him in general, whereas again, in the UK, even him alone is enough of a draw to end up in one of those yawning cavernous megaplexes. So there are advantages.
He clearly loves what he does and I love watching his stuff. So much info and insight I can rewatch the same thing several times. I hope he keeps doing his thing 👍
Forged £50 notes, a boat on route to Amsterdam... reminds me of Only Fools & Horses episode To Hull & Back 😆
These Oasis videos are gold James, cheers man.
I always liked a few Oasis tunes but your channel got me fully into all of their stuff! Thanks for the content 🙏
I feel the same.
That's what we like to hear.
That thumbnail brings back so many memories....it's the old outside escalator to Manchester arndale, I went up and down that so many times over the years... it's still there in its updated form and takes you to the food court.
liam’s first time out of the country and he gets arrested 😂😂, what a story to tell the kids
Wasn't really his first time out of the country, he'd been to Ireland loads visiting family
@@shredder9536 they were living in an Irish community in Manchester, Amsterdam would seem very foreign to Mayo hah
Oasis was the last rock and roll band
I Remeber reading about this in NME
I wasn't that much of fan at the time.
I Remeber my friend said he's got 2 tickets for earls court 95
£12 LOL
I still wasn't that bothered.
Then I went and it was one of the best gigs I've ever seen.
Great days
Last rock and roll band? Bruh, you live in lies lmao
Really appreciate such well done historical stuff, as I do all your work. Thanks!
I'm actually almost rolling on the floor laughing, even though I knew some of the story before. Great video.
Pedantic comment: I know you are quoting Paul Gallagher but Liam had been to Ireland many times before the ferry incident.
These online video bios of prominent people are the way of the future, & you do a very good job. Clear, well-paced & researched. Visually interesting. You've made me more interested in Oasis than I previously was.
Going by the description of the locations and that of the ferry, I would guess that they travelled onboard the M/V Koningin Beatrix, which actually did have a football hooligan riot involving West Ham in 1986 (you can see videos of that on TH-cam) . It seems like Noel may have known about that incident and shoe horned it into his own story for some reason
Apparently Mani from the Stone Roses was on that same ferry, if you watch this clip th-cam.com/video/VBROKQK7Wis/w-d-xo.html from 1:02 one of those lads looks just like him. Many in the comments seem to be convinced.
@@nervesinapattern7261 The plot thickens! That is Mani - there's an interview with him on 'TheStoneRoses' website where he talks about it. "...Next thing you know, I'm marching about on the 6'oclock news!" lol
@@nervesinapattern7261 That is Mani! There's an interview where he talks about it. Noel must have heard it from him and either thought it sounded rock n roll so borrowed the story or got confused somehow.
@@hellooohowareudoing Nice one!! Cheers for confirming mate!
Wasn't it man utd v west ham at it on the ferry
Loving your videos man. Very well researched, very compelling delivery. Enough detail to be thorough without getting dull. Keep it up man!
Thanks James this video is excellent really enjoy your content. Thank you.
Great video, I'd love to see a video on the last tour and the split in Paris if, that is if enough behind the scenes information exists or if there's enough room for speculation. Love these videos man
Makes you wonder what Liam did that finally pushed Noel. Apparently they haven't spoken in ten years.
Great video as always, love these type of vids
Another great video James, cheers from the US!
Great video. Amazing how you told the full story.
Absolutely love your content James
Love. These kinds of Videos keep them up.
The escalator at the Arndale Centre in Manchester. A weekly sight as a kid, going to Town with either me Mam or me Sister.
I'm not a big Oasis fan but its fascinating
... well done. I covered my eyes with one hand when you said " Midnight brawl on the high seas"... lol.
There was alot of misinformation. Glad u covered that topic too. Will watch soon
James, the way you're covering these Oasis adventures is so heartwarming. It makes me feel like I'm having a gathering with my family where all the stories come back to life. Please continue to come up with these.
Do you have any stories about the bar fight in Germany where Liam and Whitey got in a fight and Liam got his teeth knocked out? Or the MTV Champagne Supernova when Liam trashed the stage. Mad fer it!
Well told story, thanks, James. I listened to the whole thing while out jogging.
I love your videos your voice is so good for stuff like this
Amazing story. Keep ‘em coming
Excellent video as always. Would you be able to make a video deep-diving the tracks in All Around The World? I know it's a lot to ask for, since there's an unbelieveable amount of effects. But excellent song too, and I think it would be very interesting.
Loved the video mate. I believe the exact date of the show was the 18th of February 1994. Can’t exactly remember my source for this date but it does sound like a likely candidate considering Sony already had a conference at Gleneagles on the 6th.
Really good stuff, I agree that Oasis wouldn't have been the same regardless of how good the gig had gone. Wanted to ask if you'd heard about Johnny Depp's time with Oasis? I know he played guitar on fade in/out and the alternate version of fade away but apart from that was he basically a session musician? Would be an interesting video; and a good way to game the algorithm with all the talk about him at the minute! Either way keep up the good work.
Yes that video would be great
I think he got to know them because his then girlfriend Kate Moss was friends with Patsy Kensit.
I love these little documentaries about oasis and their antics.
Great video again James!
Thanks James.
Absolutely superb research, editing and narration. You put the big money productions to shame.
Any chance of you doing a similar video about when the Roses and Mondays were on Top of the Pops?
Careful with the amaj7, open string 5 omitted? Otherwise it's amaj7 with a fifth in the bass👩🦽👩🦽
@@tasosdiaforetico7377 Thanks 👍🏻
Another great video, thanks James.
I can tell you one part of Noel's account that is definitely wrong. West Ham were not on a preseason tour of Holland. 1) It was February, that is the middle of the season and 2) West Ham didn't play in Europe that season. So if there were any West Ham fans on the Ferry they weren't there to watch West Ham...
I thought exactly the same thing.
This is what I was wondering. I'm not a football fan but surely there aren't any serious matches in February? 😂 Noel and Liam are nowhere near as smart as they think they are.
@@user04683 February is actually the middle of the season. It runs from August - May. That's why West Ham couldn't have been playing a pre-season friendly, pre-season games are in July. And, as West Ham weren't playing in European competition, they couldn't have got that muddled up with a pre-season game.
I'm not saying there weren't any West Ham fans on the ferry, just that if there were, they weren't going to Amsterdam to watch their team play.
Noel is a great storyteller but he does on occasion like to embellish. There might have been a handful of West Ham fans going to Amsterdam to get drunk and high and fall in the canals but there wouldn't have been loads of them.
@@Sleepy_I the "West Ham on ferries" reference I believe, comes from the trouble on the Koningin Beatrix between West Ham and Man United in 1986 which was an infamous hooligan incident of the time. Noel shoehorned it into this incident for some reason
Guigsy was known to be the most sensible one , and the only one who had a good job before they made it. If he was made redundant shortly before this, BT could easily have paid him 5k by cheque, and he could have taken out the cash in £50 notes from his bank. I can't see Guigsy being the type to have 5k in forged notes.
Im loving these Videos and im drawn to Oasis for some reason like i am the pyramids and love your in depth look into the lifes and history
“WHY DON’T YOU GO SUPPORT WEST HAM?!” is such a random yet hilarious quote.
Liam was acting like a football hooligan. West Ham are (or at least were) known for having hooligan fans. It really isn't that random.
If he really wanted to be insulting, he would have said United
@@davidjames579 yeah but Man U are wet and suggesting that would have just caused a fight
@@GuinessOriginal True lol
I’ve always thought I knew a lot about oasis I’m 40 at the end of the day but slipping inside your mind has taught me a lot
It was Sleepin at Hotel Arena where they were supposed to play, rather than Paradiso. There’s a pic of Noel standing by the poster in the Supersonic book.
6:21 reiterates my point, I think Liam just did outrageous things because " that's what Rockstar do " sort of mentality
I love the title. Sounds like just another Thursday to me!!!
Keep up the amazing content, greetings from holland
Love ur content.brilliant.🙏🏻💙🇬🇧oasis best band ever
Another mint video. I'd love to see you do one on every time Liam and Noel have crossed paths since the split, be interesting to see 😂
Brilliant vid James.
excited to watch :)
These types of vids are cool. Wouldn’t mind seeing one about the stone roses painting Paul birch 🍋😆
Me too. Always fascinated by Ian Brown and the Roses.
@@hgreen8666 same man, the roses just have that bit of mystery about them don’t they. Love them!
Great video mate! I believe it’s possible that Liam didn’t know they were fake, seems like he was quite gullible back in those early days. So either he’s sticking to his story and doesn’t want to admit the 50s were fake, or he didn’t know and still thinks they were real and the bar was giving them a hard time about legitimate money. Lol who knows! Great video as always, keep it up!
Mate your videos are awesome
Fantastic work bruh! John power or Richard Ashcroft next please,
thanks 😎🤘
Favourite TH-camr 👍🏼
amazing channel on one of the best band ever!
Another great video
Fantastic video!
Oasis rock! Keep doing these bud
Half a bottle of JD in 4 hours.. wow amazing.. so crazy..
Really enjoyed this , great unraveling and presentation of events . I still have my copy of Wibling Rivalry I bought at the time !
They undoubtedly had the tunes back then, but without all the tabloid publicity, Oasis might have just been as big as a very big NME band. The ferry incident was probably worth about six months of touring, publicity-wise. Likewise the stupid chart battle a year or so later. Blur were much higher profile and sold more albums until both bands ended up on the six o'clock news. By the time Morning Glory came out in October, Oasis had a years worth of national tabloid coverage and it's little wonder the album took off like a rocket. Wonderwall just added more fuel.
This guy deserves it. Keep rocking it!
To dovetail off the comment below, I agree that you've just grown & grown as a content creator, & as a #MadFerItAmerican, I want to give you a nod from Cape Girardeau, Missouri, aka the "Show-Me State!" And this particular cape is located right upon the ole big muddy, The Mississippi River, & I can see the Bill Emerson Memorial Bridge, which takes you across the river, into the neighboring state of Illinois, all lit up at night, from my front f@¢king porch. So cheers! From Cape Girardeau on the Mississippi River, in the state of Missouri, in the U.S.A! WELL DONE! Keep up the good work!👍🇺🇸🇬🇧
✌️🖤😁#PeaceLoveAndHappiness💯
I could actually visualize that entire story in my head. What a gong show those guys were. All they had to do was drive to a boat, get on the boat, sail across on the boat, get off the boat and drive to the gig. No. Not that simple. And if it's true. I love the part where Noel fined each member of the band and used the money to furnish his flat.
Loved it James! You emphasize matters I would never have spotted myself. Thanks for all the effort you put into your videos!
Great content. New subscriber 👍
I remembered this in the music press at the time. I’m sure the West Ham fan detail was in the NME report
I’ve been on the overnight ferry and there was a brawl on our crossing too, couple of people got put in the brig and taken back to England on the return trip. Pretty common, you don’t put bands on an overnight ferry
The story that West Ham were on a pre season tour cannot be true, given it is in February.
Pre season tours are only in June, July and August.
We're they playing Europe that season ueffa Cup or Cup winner Cup?
@@theculturedthug6609 94, I doubt it. Can't be bothered googling though haha
Wiki’d their fixtures for the 93-94 season and they’re weren’t any Euro matches.
Could have been a Inter Toto Cup match? Just a guess...
No they definitely weren’t in any European games that season.
They all came out the other end normal amazing story glad I grew up with them
I'm new to the shenanigans of Oasis but would I be wrong in saying if not for Noel the rest of these guys would be hopeless?
I’m sure I’ve read or heard an interview where it said Noel still played the show as a short acoustic set… never seen it confirmed but would love to know what the set list was if so being so early on.
West Ham wouldn’t be on a pre season tour in Feb. Likely Noel was just using West Ham because back then they had a bad rep.
Half a bottle of JD each is about 7 double measures in my workings - so that's around 1.5 to 2 double measures an hour per person over 4.5 hours. It's not that astronomical really. Just a standard session. 😄 Also they were doing coke, which allows you to drink more without getting pissed.
Also, why would it be pre season tour for West Ham IN FEBRUARY?? Pre season is in July, February is smack bang in the middle of the season. West Ham were definitely not playing in Europe in '94 either!
Liam would have been outside England loads having been to Ireland during multiple summer holidays....
Trying to spend fake £50 notes while stuck on a ferry is so dumb.your literally begging to be caught.spend em in a shop then get the hell away from there as fast as you can
I don’t understand why everyone kept saying it was liams first time out the country etc. He went to Ireland as a kid and teenager plenty of times with his brothers and mum. Am I missing something?
peggy gallagher was from Mayo. and noel and liam are very close to her, they used family holidays to mayo as a way to escape Tommy Gallagher. oasis gigs in ireland were a homecoming event. I should know. i tried to get tix for the point gig in 1996 HMV kept putting the phone down. all sold out.
That's good old PR for you.
the tout was the whats the story morning glory tour. Noel went on to the late late show with Gay Bynre and did an acoustic version of whats the story maorning glory
Ahem, first time outta the country for a gig/tour..
good content but you should put some music in the background behind the commentary
That picture of Noel standing next to the gig poster has The name Sally right above Oasis on it.... coincidence?? Or has that possibly got something to do with "so sally can wait?" I know u did a video & have went into who Sally represents in the song but could the name itself have been taken from this? Even subconsciously, whoever the Sally in the poster is, i'm assuming another band "Legged Sally" Pegged Hegged or whatever & if above them on the bill then would have been expecting them to turn up as supporting them. And so sally can wait.... she knows it's too late.
They were going to play in the Arena just near the Oosterpark. A small club where I went many times during the nineties. It’s not like Paradiso or the Melkweg.
Wow I always here people, from The Foo fighters to fans all saying they want Oasis to reunite! But everybody is forgetting the feelings of The band itself ! If Noel doesn’t want to reunite because He feels He doesn’t want too, Well Then Everybody should show their love of the band by respecting & supporting His decision! Just Thank ‘‘em for their LOVE & MUSIC AND JUST MOVE ON…!!!??
Can you do a bit about the Munich Incident in 2002? 😊
This really explains why Oasis were over before they began. They were never serious musicians, and they were already living the perceived ‘rockstar’ lifestyle, without putting in the hard-yards and getting established before being derailed by drugs/booze. They probably had more success than they ever remotely deserved, and probably only because Liam sold papers..he was good for the newspaper/magazine business.
I'm glad Noel got the last of the float. I know what it's like to be the only sane member of a band, so I was really happy to hear that! What a bunch of dickheads, it's no wonder he always looks so annoyed. I imagine he could have played the 'Dam gig solo and he probably would have done just fine.
I loved the movie version of the drawing cut outs with the perfect use for Boneheads Bank Holiday background track. Love a good travelling fight like Streets of rage 2 bar room out around then. 🤔Amsterdamage
Yup nothing like 10 pints a bag of coke n a scrap 😭 love it
The section in the supersonic documentary that goes over this is amazing! I remember finding it hilarious when I first watched it.
If this incident is early 1994 then it's impossible they met football supporters on a pre-season tour. As pre-season is always in July.
It wouldn’t have been a pre season tour in February!! So I don’t know what he’s talking about West Ham being on a tour!! I wonder if he’s put the West Ham v Manchester United fan fight on a ferry in August 1986 into their situation??
BWHAHAHAHAHA, THIS IS THE VIDEO I MISSED IN YOUR CHANNEL THANKS A LOT LAD.
Hey, where's you short video of liam saying "doesnt matter if its out tune, cuz you're cool"? Cant find it
Excellent
just brilliant
Brilliant.............
They should make a movie out of this...
I've been in a bit of trouble over the year but not now. and believe me if I had money in my pocket but could do a bit of five finger discount I would have done it
Yes to right, still Rob from ASDA whilst buying my shopping just because 😂
@@barrysmith4674 yeah toiletries all-day there to expensive blades deodorant things like that can't help myself need must😀😀😀
@@loyalistu.y.m aha same boat friendo, be safe out there!
I wonder where they would be if they didnt fuck up the whiskey a gogo and this concert, maybe they would have been bigger in america for a while but i cant really see it playing out that much differently anyway.
West Ham on a preseason trip in February?
Awesome 👌
haha, you had me at the title
Apparently Mani was on the same ferry, if you watch the lads interviewed at 1:02 of the news clip th-cam.com/video/VBROKQK7Wis/w-d-xo.html it looks a lot like him. Many in the comments seem convinced.
What? That's not 1994
Pre season tour in February?