LIAM GALLAGHER vs Mobsters & The German Police?!
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- In the early hours of December 1st 2002, Liam Gallagher and 4 other members of the Oasis entourage started a huge brawl in the nightclub of the best hotel in Munich... and lots of questions about that night were never properly answered
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Someone needs to animate James's description of the brawl. Every sentence involving Liam is simply hilarious 🤣
Imagine having the worst hangover the morning after this and then having to spend the whole day in the dentist chair 😂
With that light in your face XD
only good side is he probably got blissed out on strong pain meds ....
I remember back in the late nineties/ early naughties taking a whole handful of mushrooms in my morning coffee and then going to the dentist straight after
@@RT-ks2zi was that back when they were legal to buy? Those were high times, for sure. Glad I grew up then and not now.
@@DanRazaMusic They've never been legal to buy. Most people picked their own.
James, please can we have the definitive breakdown and story of Alan Whites departure - it's an absolute mystery.
I thought he got a serious hand injury?
@@DH-TV he did get tendinitis and got a temporary replacement in his brother Steve, on the brotherly love tour.
I’d always heard he was suffering from tendonitis, plus wasn’t turning up for band duties so Liam sacked him.
No! He wouldn’t get sacked for that. Noel was probably in the bath with some birds at the time. Love how Noel is the gaffer.
@@nez9751It was Noel who sacked him.
I haven't watched the video yet but let me guess how it starts: "Liam got mad drunk and then ..."
“noel was asleep in his cabin, reading light prose of eastern tartarian decent, sketching soft depictions of his lover.”
“meanwhile Liam was fighting with someone from the gig/club..”
@@johnlenz420 lol!
Called it
@@nicholasmooney9611 The story definitely didn't disappoint! lol
Most Oasis fights can be described as: "Liam got mad drunk and then..." lol.
I love how you're trying not to laugh whilst telling this story
I laughed all the way through it 😆
It is very funny. Except for the part about the Munich police being pricks to Liam.
The flicking peanuts part also!
“ Oasis was like a Ferrari. Great to look at. Great to drive. And it'd fuckin spin outta control every now and again.” LG
More like a bus built with knock off parts that brakes down all the time
@@justinparkerthewildwolf6394 no
More like a bunch of fucking biblical people who didn’t give a fuck and rightly so
Liam Gallagher truly lived and breathed all aspects of rock n roll. What a man.
The fact he has walked out of a brawl of that magnitude with no facial cuts and bruises is amazing. I genuinely think he is right about the German police pulling his front teeth out.
It's just a shit behavior and has nothing to do with rock and roll. It's drugs and anger issues, that's all. He himself isn't proud of that either.
I moved to Munich in September 2002 and this should be my first real "Highlight" in my new hometown. I had to work on that sunday so i was looking forward to the evening to enjoy the gig of my favorite band. When I arrived at the venue hundreds of people in Oasis shirts walked towards me which gave me a strange feeling that something is wrong here. So I walked to the entrance and there was a sign at the door which read :Oasis cannot perform tonight due to an accident" or something like that. I was so pissed and felt for the people who travelled there from other parts of Germany. When Oasis finally played that gig a few month later - the barricade in the front broke down and Oasis left the stage after the first song! I couldn't believe it. But 15 minutes later they came back and played the whole gig. The gig was nothing special but me and my mate had our fun.
My brother's friend was one of the security.. He says there was a bang, Liam hit the floor thinking it was a gun and caught his teeth on something..he could of course have been making it up.
YES! Thank you so much James. I've been asking for this video for ages and it didn't disappoint, although it raises as many questions as it answers. The German police seem sketchy as hell.
Inebriated Liam having his two front teeth surgically removed by German police might be the funniest thing I've ever heard but the line Liam signs off with "i could still whistle" to prove his point finished me off... 🤣
Correction, by the "fucking German police" 🤣
It would be great if someone could do a cartoon version of this story.
Sounds like a South Park scene...I can imagine Randy in Liam's role.
Ah shit, I just commented this. I shoulda known someone already had the idea 😂 it would be hilarious in a family guy chicken fight style
This dude is the biggest oasis expert I have ever seen. These videos are incredibly detailed.
Remember going to the Sheffield Arena gig in December following this incident, Oasis weren't known for talking on stage but those gigs immediately after the Germany fight, that stage was quiet as anything I've heard. Noel was seriously pissed apparently.
JAMES - keep up the fine work - you do deep-dives on topics die-hard fans are actually interested in, that standard journalists ignore. Can I make a request? I've never heard the band address the topic of stalkers or obsessive fans. We know how crazy Oasis fans were generally, and how bezerk the 90s were (fans taking vigil outside Noel and Liam's homes - the council even installing a bench and a dustbin outside Supernova Heights cos of the number of people gathering), but were there any situations with police involved or restraining orders or stalkers showing up in Liam's bedroom at 2am and security guards having to get them out, or Noel fighting them off? I'm not aware of any. Any insight into this would be fascinating, as it's one of the few topics I've rarely heard them asked about or broach themselves. I remember reading about an obsessive fan breaking into Noel's country house while he was away on tour circa 2000, and it was just his wife Meg and then-baby daughter Anais at home. I remember another incident where Nicole was punched in the head whilst out in the street with Liam...the person was aiming for Liam but he ducked and they got Nicole. I'm just surprised how little actual concrete information there is out there is about this, barring Liam complaining about Italian fans lurking outside his property in Hampstead circa 2010 - I guess it was such a daily thing they didn't even bother talking about it...but there must've been some hairy moments or like lunatics claiming to be married to Liam or something...
Yeah I’d love to see this
Noel mentioned he had a stalker on The Matt Morgan Podcast at some stage. She was some fan who went to all the gigs (NGHFB mind you) and even showed up outside his hotel room door. I think security got involved then. There were a few more crazy bits but I'll leave them for now.
@@aidanhickey9845 yeah, I think I heard that too, but still...seems quite mild. Back in the Oasis mania days in the 90s. I can't believe there weren't more documented cases of loons chasing after them or breaking their way in to homes/hotel rooms and having to be dealt with, or even scaring the shit out of Liam and noel
I kinda stalked Liam, around 14yrs ago, when I was on holidays in the UK....... LOL.
I visited Pretty Green in London and they recommended I go to the park where he jogs every morning. No luck.
I then went to Burnage and stood outside his mum's front door. Nothing again.
I went out the front and a geezer walks past and asked if I was looking for Liam. Yes I replied. He said "You just missed him". Apparently he'd been round to visit his mum earlier. I was shattered.
Although I never got to meet the great man himself I did meet Paul and Debbie Gwyther.
@@theselector4733 lol, props for actually confessing to this. Wasn't expecting one of their actual stalkers to reply. Wasn't a fishing exercise lol, but yeah you don't sound like a proper stalker, more just a devoted fan who wanted to meet their idol
I was at the Cardiff Arena gig after this incident.I remember Liam made a reference to his teeth at some point during the gig.
I am just trying to imagine hearing Alan White sing! Haha I wonder if he is any good? In my opinion he was the best all around oasis drummer but Tony was the best for the punk rock tunes.
Interesting video but.... it was actually a mate of mine who was part of the Oasis crew that started that fight but only because he was pissed and fell into the Italian's table and scattered drinks all over them and their women. What happened after is hard to know but note how Noel mentioned 11 drunk Mancunians.There was a much bigger posse there than the papers reported and he was fired immediately after. When we heard who it was we all laughed as if you knew him it wasn't a big surprise...
Oh dear 😂
I hate it how people always think that Liam starts it. He isn't even like that.
Yeah it’s weird that James says “Liam started it cause everyone else was sitting down and only Liam and Alan are standing.” Like wtf.. how can you make a claim like that James? Have you never partied around a table? People are standing, leaning, sitting, coming back from the toilet.. they don’t sit like watching a movie. As soon as he said that I rolled my eyes. I sometimes like these videos cuz I see new stuff like I’ve never seen the mugshot but James’ speculations ruin it. Like his speculation Liam purposely ruined the Wembley gig. Like Nicki Minaj is suing a youtuber over false claims. Liam could do the same, and remember he sued his brother....so.... maybe keep the speculations to yourself
Alright Jay? How are will, Simon and Neil?
Another great topic.
Would love to learn more about the rivalry with Robbie culminating in the Q Awards.
Also more about the relationship between Liam and Lisa Moorish and what happened would be interesting
You have a good knack for storytelling mate
Another great vid James, an idea for the future, all the band members over the years why they left/ kick out & there relationship with the Gallagher’s now
I was surprised to learn that Alan and Guigsy speak regularly, which is charming.
Lol. I'd forgotten about this row ! Never a dull moment
I remeber seen Oasis in Dublin march 2003.... it was organised as a warm up gig before they went bk to finish the german tour because of this.... was a great gig off a weds night remember going to work nxt day with a hangover from hell 🤒🤒🤒🤒🤒🤒🤒
Hey James Topic suggestion: Maybe you can shed some light on the attack on Noel in Toronto 2008
Didn’t he already? Maybe that was another channel
Guy gets on stage, pushes Noel over. The end.
Liam said in a tweet that Noel was the one that fired Alan, that it had nothing to do with him, but the quote in the video proves otherwise (unless he was lying)
Well Noel was the chief at the end of the day
He might've just forgot or believed his own story.
It happens.
The corrupt police probably handed Liam to the mafia and they removed his teeth.
Wouldn't surprise me.
Superb James, this is one of your best yet!!
Thing is, Liam is right about his teeth. Look at his mugshot, not a mark on him.
I was there.
Well, with "there" I mean infront of the concert hall, after a 3 hour drive, when they announced that the show was cancelled. Ah, Oasis-memories
Makes you wonder if this inspired Noel’s song “Freaky Teeth” :)
Good video. But quoting The S*n is a no-no.
James, wow, that is the most amazing video and so well told. The film script rights to that night in Munich should pay for the dental surgery and bail. And for a new brass cigarette ashtray....
look at the picture, no way he got his teeth knocked out, he doesn't even look in pain or discomfort
Lol. Oasis are the coolest band ever to live. They got into some of the most unique and hilarious situations in the history of rock n roll. They are legendary.
Really,,
I love this story! I remember the day it happened back then, in the press it was like "another Oasis scandal"😂
So great
I wonder if the bodyguards got in trouble for allowing it to happen, they should have stopped it escalating in the first place and just got them out of there
Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
Yes! Finally a bit more light on this incident!
2:45 Great name for a Band.
Flicking Peanuts...
Worked for the
Smashing Pumpkins,
Screaming Trees.
Hey James, apologies if this comment may not be relevant to the video topic, but what is the acoustic guitar with the pick up in that you have used throughout your channel?
Hahaha Liam fighting 5 gangsters single handed and didn't get KO'd. What a dude.
LOL!! What an ornery fucker!! Made me laugh too!!
Faf
Yeah, cocaine helps. Oh, and also violence is of course outstanding...
AS IF THAT HAPPENED.
Fake hard man bullshit.
Italians are all 5 foot 3 though and soft as me arse tho
Don't underestimate the dangers of peanut flicking. I think that's how both World Wars started?
Another mad moment in time I’d forgotten all about 😂👏🏻
Plot twist: Noel paid them to do it 😬
Noel wasn't arsed to do the German tour, lol.
'Mad fer it' since 1995 and I am an Italian living in Germany since 2010, so...yes mate, this romantic story really speaks to my heart ♥ 😄 Bravissimo. Love wild RKid back in the days
LG got what was coming ... sounds like his entourage were acting like hard line prats also ...
Noel’s comment man. So funny
the leader, a muscular blond called christian w, does not sound very italian to me at all
We really need to hear a recording of Alan White singing.
Would probably sound like Chas n Dave
maybe those mugshot photos were old photos, re-used by the Munich police from a file they had on Liam from one of his previous visits to Munich
@@eadweard. probably not, but then again it's Liam so it's possible
Favourite channel on TH-cam right now! Do a video on cloudburst, why that song never made it to anything more than a B side amazes me
The mug shot has his date of birth wrong, says its in December when its actually in September
Where is all the CCTV footage from the night ? Surely Liam could have got that released ?
It really affected Liam's singing after this happened and the way he pronounced words.
Loads of people who get their teeth done end up like that, like donald trumps sons struggling to talk or close their mouth
Aha..I noticed Liam's singing sounded different at one point...it's his teeth
I have to say, hearing the extent of the horrific injuries Liam had to endure at the hands of the Italian business men and potentially the German police, well, it's made my day. I would urge all brits travelling abroad to drink responsibly and engage with others in a pleasant Manner.
Thanks Stuart Little.
@@robertmusson7307 you're welcome 😊
They got Liam's Birthday wrong on the mugshot. But I guess pronouncing September, drunk, high and without teeth can sound very similar to December.
Liam g the g stands for gangsta
I remember this very well. He took a smack in the mouth ffs, who hasn't lol. Great stuff 👏
Who knows what really happened but it sounds like it could have been alot worse!!
You should try & find out about Steve Allen, Liams bodyguard. He’s a bit a naughty guy
liam no es culpable de nada, te estás guiando por lo que dice el pasquín the sun en connivencia con noel,
son todos periodistas amigos de noel que hasta van juntos de vacaciones, obvio que siempre le van a sacar notas desfavorables a liam,
además el hecho ocurrió hace 20 años, a quién le importa ahora lo que haya sucedido? que tontería, si van a investigar investiguen de otras fuentes que no sean los amiguitos de noel, c'mon
I was at the Cardiff gig, the first after this happened. Remember shitting myself the week or so leading up to it, thinking the gig will get called off. Got interviewed by radio 1 as I was leaving as they wanted fans reactions and comments on the event
Who haven't these guys had a fight with?
Hulk Hogan
@@markmckay666 fookin Hogan callin' me brother, i was havin none of it.
Me
Me an' R-kid were 'avin it large, then this geezer come up an' 'e says: "Are you guys two of my hulkamaniacs?" So I said "Alright ya yankee sponge, fuck righ'toff back on yer steroids. I Ain' nobody's Hulkamaniac me."
@@aidanhickey9845 u a ultimate warrior n
Geburstag = Birthday: 21.12.1972 (wasn't he born in September, though it could be a misheard), Große = Height: 179, is he that tall? Anyway great story and there are a lots of interesting details.
I noticed that too. He probably just slurred September.
Drunken building site workers 😂😂
Nowt wrong with that
Should have made them an offer they couldn't refuse.
If I remember correctly the police posted a still from the security tapes showing one of the "Italian mobsters". People recognized him, a buff guy from nearby Erding. Once they got him they found a connection to the others, Munich locals. Police went public with this about 17 months after the incident when the investigation was completed. They collected about one thousand pages of witness reports. I doubt that there is anything dodgy about it, the German police and law system is simply that incredibly bureaucratic and slow.
Who knows how Liam lost his teeth but his story with film like police villains sounds rediculous. Munich is not located in Chechnya. Still makes the most sense that they were knocked out at some point during the brawl. Maybe he simply fell on his face, who knows. When you get hit in an unlucky angle only your teeth might get hit, the rest of the face might stay unharmed.
According to the hotel manager in an interview 20 years later the security tapes show how one of the Oasis guys gets pushed on the table which was accidentely booked under the name of "Matera". The people at the table try to get rid of that guy, then the rest of the Oasis crew intervenes and the brawl starts. Hotel security can calm down the aituation a bit but once the groups arrive in the hotel lobby everything escalates again.
Fucking brilliant just what you want from a rock n roll star great stuff .
With hindsight I think this would of been a better time for Noel to of left the band after the Heathen Chemistry Tour, to go solo.
That way, Gem & Andy would of have at least done one album, as Noel had resisted leaving for good in 2000 as he didn’t want people thinking them being in the band was just a sham.
He could of used the Munich fight as one of his reasons for leaving, even though he wasn’t there, just the drama & cost of it.
Then Importance of Being Idle would of been on his first solo album, at a time when guitar music was popular again with lots of new indie bands breaking through
Never heard of this before
Remember back in 2002, there would of been analog cctv around such places, and possibly inside in lobby of such places.
Need i say anymore?
From what noel said, maybe liam went back there, if you get what i mean.
I just wanna know what song Liam and Whitey were singing with the band! xD
'Magic Pie' of course.
@@DH-TV aye man, one of the big hits no doubt, and yeah I thought the exact same thing; from soul music to suddenly a modern rock tune? I ain't buying it 😅
Another great vid!
Another brilliant one, mate. D’you have Patreon?
I don't think he reads the comments bro :)
Flicking peanuts at gangsters...how wise!!
I love your channel James
So sad..
Were the bodyguards on the piss or on the job? Imagine preventing Liam Gallagher from fighting.
When did Liam stop taking drugs? (If ever). I've never heard anyone mention it. Obviously he was still doing the odd line in 2002 anyway. Surely he's not still snorting coke at almost 50? The odd spliff maybe? Curious stuff.
He stopped drugs because of health reasons I’m assume. Suffering from Hashimoto’s and has Hay fever, has to replace both of his hips in the future because of arthritis, so I think he is “clean”. Though beer remained his favorite drink and he loves Guiness.
Liam's rock star what you think he's going to do with tea and biscuits lol he's still does white line fever
@@glennconnell6785 Does he fuck, lmao.
@@glennconnell6785 After double hip replacement he will eat biscuits and will drink tea.
@@glennconnell6785 that's bs
Sounds like a Guy Ritchie flick to me.
Actually it wasn’t even italian mobsters it was a bunch of german real estate agents 😂
Saw the Minchello vid few days ago and (listening about his fight) I meant to message you about this particular Liam incident. At the time this story broke , I remember hearing his teeth were lost to some mafia guys in a bar brawl. Reminded me of when I went to see the band in Fukuoka, Japan (where I worked at the time) in 2002. I spoke to a big Scottish roadie outside the gig beforehand who said Liam wouldn’t be playing the gig that evening (this was the second time the band had gone to Fukuoka and, unfortunately for the local fanatical fans, the second time Liam had failed to turn up on stage in Fukuoka). We enquired why this was the case. Scotsman said to us that Liam had consumed way too much Japanese Saki on the previous nights gigs, and he also mentioned there had also been an altercation the night before with a few choice Japanese Yakuza whilst on the way back to the hotel. Sure enough, gig started, Liam left after about 1.5 songs, and his legend of mixing it with the best lived on with me. I genuinely love and admire the guy, although I also genuinely think he’s a massive fucking pussy who couldn’t throw a right hand for Lennon (see the bravado outside that hospital with the reporter where, to be fair, he looks a soft cunt). Cheers man.
Great comment 💯 💯 💯
Noel said 11 mancs
Lol nothing surgical about having your front teeth knocked out, I have heard something about liam losing his front teeth a couple times, one time after oasis first tv appearance on the word tv show via terry christensen
Yeah Noel saying Liam is a born liar. That’s obvious. Jay Cartwright
It’s a stranger story, I can’t have an. opinion about what really happened. But it seems you Don’t like Liam and you always think he is the only blammed. I love Liam and I love your videos too!
Nah he loves Liam, he may say that Liam’s usually the one to blame but he says it in an endearing way
This is like the Billy Boy vs Alex fight in A Clockwork Orange!
Love this channel but now I'm intrigued.. Did Liam even have his teeth knocked out? I mean there's no proof at all 🤷♂️
defo affected his voice. they say thats why mercury and bowie did not bother...i think bowie did much later after his career but around that time liams voice was terrible
Great Channel
I heard LG had his front teeth pulled out with plyers by police and said he didn't feel thing to pissed ND on cocaine
Ah jaze why no SAS dude in the vicinity. He's be like that russian green beret dealing with chris & paulie..For queen and country..Travelling fights🤣
Bloody hell i didn't realise it was all as bad as this 😝
Italian gangsters LMFAO
Liam doing Kung-fu fighting......fucking legend
AMAZING THANK
You never got this kind of thing with The Applejacks.
If it did, Tell me when.
It sounds like some tall tales got told about what went down in that fight. Probably by the oasis PR team and or the media. If people were getting hit in the face with standing steel ashtrays and knuckle dusters then there would be some serious damage to his face in that mug shot. He looks absolutely fine.
I was at the Cardiff gig a week a later. Liam kept on grinning showing off new teeth. I ended up being elbowed in the mouth (accidentally) mid gig causing a minor bleed.
The Trailer Park Brits go to Germany
M8 you are the best at what you do - dissecting niche topics about Oasis and telling interesting stories about the band with proper documentation. But. You gotta lose the white screen, and your face, no one wants to see either. Even if u were Brad Pitt, there's no need. Secondly u gotta start doing vids on other big bands notable incidents like infamously bad gigs, fights, etc. Like Led Zepp? Dont be cringe. It's cringe
This was funny. Bad, bad boy Liam. I guess he's grown up a bit now that he's in his 50s.