Can I just say that I absolutely ADORE the shot of the twins puffing next to each other but looking away from each other. Its like the steam engine equivalent of you turning your back to a sibling.
I love this video. Twin Trouble is a gem, and the conflict between them feels real. I love that moment where Donald said “the other other line,” showing how he and Douglas can communicate so easily. I love when Douglas slowly realizes he misses Donald. And I love when he snaps and says “I have nothing to be sorry for,” and later argue about who’s sorry. They fit a lot of stuff into 4 and a half minutes
Angelis also did a pretty good Scottish accent. The US narrator Alec Baldwin sounded like he didn't even try to do a Scottish accent. Donald and Douglas are better with a Scottish accent because it is unique to some people who are from Scotland.
Another thing that makes this episode so great is the music and what it symbolizes. When the episode opens, you can see Donald and Douglas puffing on the viaduct with loud bagpipe music playing. This represents the twins' relationship prior to their falling out. Later in the episode when Donald and Douglas are seen working alone, the bagpipe music is noticeably quieter. This symbolizes the break in the twins' relationship.
I love this video that you made about Twin Trouble. This could easily be the most reality based episode of Thomas ever. Unlike most other episodes from series 6, it's very down to earth given the relationship between two people. (Or in this case and most other Thomas ones = engines rather than people.) The fact that Donald and Douglas make up at the end of the episode makes children realise that you can always make up with family, friends, neighbours, colleagues, etc. Here are some more Thomas episodes that you could make similar videos about for similar reasons. = Buffer Bother = Like Twin Trouble, it shows that you can fall out with someone and then make up with them again before long. I think the only main difference is that Bill and Ben act a lot less mature about their arguments than Donald and Douglas do. Thomas, Percy And The Dragon = Being scared and being brave do not always mean the same thing. It also shows how foolish you can be if you tease someone for being scared of something and then it turns out that you yourself can be even more scared of something else. Oliver Owns Up = Never be niave about handling something for the first time. Henry's Hero = Sometimes you just have to keep on doing whatever needs doing if you're not 100% with it or not generally not in the best mood. James And The Coaches = Like Henry's Hero, you just have to keep moving if something goes wrong. The Spotless Record = Playing tricks on someone who's usually get asset to a team can result in yourself getting into trouble rather than the victim. Two Wheels Good = More of anything doesn't always mean more reliable. Percy Takes The Plunge = Like Oliver Owns Up, you must always listen to advice about the dangers of the railway. Big Strong Henry = Proving yourself to be something just to prove others can easily backfire and can get you into loads of trouble. No More Mr Nice Engine = Like The Spotless Record, playing tricks on someone can backfire and land on yourself. I feel like all of these episodes serve a special purpose in an educational way. They are pretty much about life lessons when you think about it.
I love how you recommended that we should watch the UK dub of this episode. Michael Angelis was a brilliant narrator and I will remember him by hearing his voice in the characters. R.I.P 1944 - 2020
what’s funny donald’s crew blames donald for the accident but by a logical point of view it’s technically the crew’s fault for not putting on the breaks before hitting the buffers.
If this were the Railway Series, this definitely would have been a 2 parter. This episode is a great one and a good example as to why seasons 6 and 7 do fit in the classic era.
“I was just passing by, and wanted to say hello!” Said Douglas. “Have you come to say your sorry?” Donald said angrily. Douglas felt hurt, “I-I’ve nothing to be sorry for!” Douglas yelled back. He puffed away, without another word. But as he puffed away, he couldn’t help but sadder with every wheel turn, and by the time he got to his shed, he couldn’t help but sob tearfully. **credits music starts playing**
Now that you mention it, it does sound like this episode would have been better as a two-parter. I think that something they could do is first have Duck try to pull Donald back onto the tracks, then ask Douglas for help.
The late Reverand Awdry's reasoning is why I plan to read and watch Thomas the Tank Engine with my own children, if I am ever fortunate enough to have any.
While that would predict the downfall of D&D's characters in the CGI Series when they were brought back, both that and Love Me Tender are the only good episodes of the Scottish Twins' fallout. It's handled in a way that's not played down to kids and it has some really great moments. And I really love Michael Angelis' energy brought into the scenes of the episode. Another one of my absolute favorite of mine of S6.
@@cindersandashesuk5744"Love Me Tender" did kinda teach children about caring for your siblings. Donald and Douglas did constantly disagree with each other, but when Donald leaves Douglas to die without realizing until a minute and a half later on, it shows that both don't want each other to suffer different dimises when being separated. "Emily in the middle" was the only Donald and Douglas episode I dislike because of how childish the twins were and Emily had to be the nanny of the situation... l:( I much prefer Michael Angelis' narration for only "Twin Trouble" and "Percy's chocolate crunch". The rest of S6 was sorta fine for Alec Baldwin depending on how much emotion he had in his soul as he did in S5.
Tbh I really adore this episode and definitely one of my favourite episodes from the classic show But it just proves that “dry characters” ain’t all that dry after all and the power of pushing characters Like I didn’t really care for the Twins all that much but this episode just makes them more charming really Donald is more of the anger side and Douglas is more of the hero kinda person really and I genuinely really loved what they did with Thomas and Duck as you said Definitely a 10/10 episode for me personally
First off, I'm honored to have had a comment featured in your videos. Secondly, I agree with your analysis here, 100%. Another thing, though, is that this episode, instead of a two-parter, could've been THREE parts, as Thomas mentions he'd miss Annie and Clarabel, possibly implying that a similar situation happened with him along with Annie and Clarabel. Like, imagine this: Douglas goes to his shed, and Thomas, say, has been sent there due to his line suffering damage. He could then tell Douglas about a story where he splits up with Annie and Clarabel... Which doesn't go too well, after which Thomas falls asleep, leaving Douglas deep in thought. Then the third episode could see Douglas remembering what Thomas said, and rescuing Donald with no hesitation. I can see why some say this episode is overrated, as it was still rushed, and wasted lots of potential, (not to mention it reminds people of the CGI series, which just... They made Donald and Douglas argue WAY TOO MUCH) but it nonetheless was able to get its point across, which is more than what can be said about other episodes, like "Gordon and the Gremlin", "Buffer Bother" and "Middle Engine", which I don't see any clear message like "Twin Trouble" conveys, even with its flaws. "Twin Trouble" isn't the best episode by any means, but it CERTAINLY isn't the worst, in my opinion being in between good and okay. Also, It makes sense that Douglas is the least argumentative of the twins, as he was the one who was saved from scrap, so it'd be hard for him to insult Donald, who agreed to be painted identically to Douglas in order for him to escape the torch.
Twin Trouble is a good episode as a standalone episode, but I wish it didn’t inspire people (looking at you, Season 20-21 writers) to just characterize Donald and Douglas as these spiteful jerks who argue and can’t stand to be around each other. This is the complete opposite of who they are. Donald and Douglas are two brothers who deeply care about each other. On a side note, I love how each twin reacts differently to the break up. It helps to differentiate the two of them in terms of personality. Really love that. Also, I agre with you on One Good Turn. I like the episode, but geez, that ending was so rushed.
Donald and Douglas are my favorite Scottish twin engines (as well as Bill and Ben the Saddle Tank engines) and I really like how their characters are portrayed in the season 6. Episode Twin Trouble thanks for sharing this interesting video 👍❤️
Great video! I’m really enjoying the growth of your channel. I would love if you’d talk about “Rusty Saves the Day” as it deals with important themes of helping others but not at the cost of negating your own responsibilities. It also offers probably the best character growth for Elizabeth and doesn’t shy away from casting sort of a negative light on Sir Topham.
I really loved this episode so much as a kid, as it felt quite relatable. Probably the most ironic part is that I’m a twin myself, so this episode always reminded me of my brother and I, how we have our own ways whether through communication or not, but also how it’s normal for any siblings, friends, couples to have their disagreements.
Thank you for making this video and for celebrating this fantastic episode. Donald and Douglas are two of the best characters in the series, and 'Twin Trouble' is one of the best episodes from the sixth series. It's definitely a hidden gem, and it was great to hear you talk about it as such🙂. I also like your musical intro with the TUGS theme. It actually works quite well with scenes from the episode. Perhaps you could that with other episodes; the best of both worlds. I also saw your celebration of the spooky episodes, which was brilliant, and wonder if you would consider doing a video discussing 'Ghost Train'. As you said, it was the only ghost story written by the Reverend Awdry and I think there's a lot that can be said and celebrated about the storyline and the way it's portrayed in the TV series. Thank you for these videos and for making us Thomas fans smile 😃
I always liked this episode as it feels just so accurate and classic while kinda fresh at the same time but this video has given me an all new appreciation for it and I now see it in a different, more complex light. Awesome video mate!
I certainly love "Twin Trouble". I love to see more stories about Donald and Douglas, two of my absolute favourite Thomas & Friends characters! 😄 And this one never disappointed, despite the flaws season 6 had. I also agree it handled its message far better than "One Good Turn"! 😃
You know, a while back, I actually watched a different version of this episode with Bill and Ben replacing Donald and Douglas, as well as Edward and Derek replacing Thomas and Duck.
Brilliant work on this video. Twin Trouble is one of my favorite Season 6 episodes, but it could be better if it isn’t constricted by 4 and a half minute time slot. Yeah, this should have been a two parter story arc, so it can allow more plot points and character interactions. Season 20’s Love Me Tender is the more superior episode when it comes to pacing.
The main issue I have with this episode is that Donald shouldn’t have had both accidents happen to him, Douglas should have gotten into that second accident instead as it would have given Douglas the chance to understand his twin’s point of view better after that first accident and it would have made their reconciliation even better. Otherwise it’s a great episode.
Donald has been classified by people and the Wiki as the more witty and jokey type while Douglas is seen as the more calmer and mature of the two I guess. I could see that with their individual episodes in S3 that were adapted for TV, but to me I see Donald as more jokey in "Donald's duck" and "Tenders for Henry" and the more disgruntled and angrier type in "Emily in the middle", "Love me tender" and "Twin Trouble" and even in "Breakvan" while I see Douglas as the more sensitive type in "The Twin Engines", "Bluebells of England" and "Escape" when it comes to the topic of being sent away from Sodor and the concepts of scrap and death and the serious and mature type in "Twin Trouble" and "Love me tender" as he tries to solve whatever squabble he and Donald get into in a more calmer manner. I don't know if other twins like Bill and Ben, Arry and Bert or Hell even Mighty Mac have their own individual personality but maybe it's just my thoughts on how twins or different brothers are different with behaviors in real life or in fiction. :/ "Emily in the middle" is the only Donald and Douglas episode I dislike because of how childish the twins were and Emily had to be the nanny of the situation... l:( "Love me tender" is much better than that. Ive mostly preferred Michael Angelis' narration for only "Twin Trouble" and "Percy's chocolate crunch". The rest of S6 was sorta fine for Alec Baldwin depending on how much emotion he had in his soul as he did in S5.
After watching this, I have an all new perspective of 'Twin Trouble'. It definitely has a good moral on the consequences of falling out and refusing to make up. Usually when this episode is brought up it's often compared to 'Buffer Bother' as that episode has a similar structure. The only difference being it has a moral about not being jealous of others. That might make a interesting subject to talk about in another video.
I think this episode always gets lumped together with buffer bother, since they are essentially the same episode. However, this episode is much better than a buffer bother in my opinion.
I have also noticed that it’s pretty much Donald who starts off the conflicts while Douglas gets provoked by him doing so not only here where Donald snapped first but also in Love Me Tender where Donald made them ending up doing what he wanted while Douglas didn’t get much chance to do what he wanted causing him to snap and also in Emily In The Middle where Donald was insisting them to take the huge train of pipes while Douglas wasn’t feeling too sure about it (understandably, and why would Sir Topham Hatt get three smaller tender engines to pull such a train rather than a bigger engine like Henry or even BoCo Murdoch or Hank, wait they’re dead and also Sam’s in America) and how the former was the first to want to swap places to be with Emily.
Twin trouble is an amazing episode, and I wish Alec Baldwin tried to do a Scottish accent for the US dub. I would say it might be one of the best episodes from the Scottish twins. Great video dude 👍
I think I'd like this episode a lot more if their CGI personalities didn't just become arguing constantly so, with this episode being the first of that it had a negative affect on the episode. Its not the worst Donald and Douglas arguing story Though
Binge watching your videos I like your idea of making this a 2 parter I think if that was the case having Douglas work with Oliver would bring in some nice continuity from Escape plus gives Oliver more than just a cameo in season 6 and maybe Toad can have the same expression of Thomas as "oh this fall out won't end well".
To me Donald and Douglas are the two stereotypical scots, Donald the one who rambles and talk a marathon when mad, Douglas the one who watches but is the more durable of the two.
I do agree that Twin Trouble should've been a two parter. And here's an even crazier thing: Series 6 in it's entirety should've been two parters with It's Only Snow as it's two parter finale.
Season 6 (2002) is underrated in general, it comes so close to hitting the feel of the first five... I can’t believe there’s people who prefer Season 7 (2003); a different beast altogether.
I like both Season 6 & 7 in both a nostalgia sense I can't choose which one I like more however. The unfortunate situation with season 7 is how it started stating some of its morals outright. However I don't think ultimately it was as bad as it got in season 8. I think both are underated and have some solid gems in there.
Before seeing your vid, I would've disagreed that Twin Trouble is an underrated episode. However, after seeing your vid, I can definitely see why it would be underrated. My biggest gripe with Twin Trouble* is that the conflict just felt so abrupt and forced that it seemed unnatural that Donald would go ballistic at Douglas for a simple accident (which wasn't even any of their faults but Trevor's). I do agree with your assessment that if they made the episode a two parter, I think it would've been better since if they built up the conflict before the accident (a la Love Me Tender), the fallout from the derailment wouldn't have been so abrupt. Still, I really like your idea of ending the two parter at the shed since that would've made for an interesting part 2. Frankly, my biggest gripe with Season 6 is a bunch of the story ideas needed to be flushed out more since that would've made a bunch of the stories as good as Season 5 (and don't get me started on Alec Baldwin's narration -or should I say lack thereof- since even Tommy Wiseau would've sounded much better narrating the stories). *Before I forget, Twin Trouble will always be infinitely superior to the crap that ended up being Buffer Bother
To be fair, Donald wasn’t entirely wrong about Douglas pushing him into the cart. In the shot where Donald is shown to have put on his brakes, you can see that Douglas HASN’T, although, in his defence, he couldn’t actually see what was going on with his brother in the way.
I feel that another criticism that could be placed on this episode is how the American dub handled it. While I don't hate Alec Baldwin's performance, his Scottish accent left a lot to be desired. In fact, he either made Duncan sound like he was either from the Bronx or Liverpool. In this episode, he didn't even bother with an accent, which made the explicitly Scottish Twins sound awkward in his voice. I wish the producers found someone else to do this rather than him.
@@cindersandashesuk5744 Yes. It's unfortunate that his Achilles Heel is in something that helps make certain characters more recognizable. Oh well. I do have to thank you, though, for encouraging me to watch this episode. It gave me some things to think about, especially as a writer myself.
Unfortunately, Alec Baldwin had been going through a divorce at the time. That’s why he didn’t do good voicing Donald and Douglas and his narrations in S6 were a step down from S5.
Can you please talk about the narrow gauge engines stories of Granpuff, Sleeping Beauty, Bulldog, You Can't Win, Four Little Engines, A Bad Day for Sir Handel, Peter Sam and the Refreshment Lady, Trucks, Home at Last, Rock 'n' Roll, Special Funnel, Steam Roller, Passengers and Polish, Gallant Old Engine, Duncan Gets Spooked, Rusty and the Boulder, Snow, Dunkin Duncan, Rusty Saves the Day, Faulty Whistles, The Old Bridge, The Refreshment Lady's Tea Shop, Rheneas and the Roller Coaster, The Runaway Elephant, The Grand Opening and Trusty Rusty.
I agree that Duck should have helped in the rescue scene. it always bugged me just a hair, the line about Duck being too weak to rescue Donald. I get that the tank engine characters are written to be smaller and less capable, but in reality, both Duck and Thomas with full tanks of water would be a good bit stronger than Donald and Douglas. I have always felt that each of their basises were chosen just a bit arbitrarily. I have this headcannon that Duck is actually one of the smaller pannier designs like the 5400 or 6400 classes. He was illistrated as a 5400 in the first book(which was later rectified), he says he worked as a pilot at paddington(and later knapford)(I am not sure if the 5700s existed in the era when locomotives intended for goods work had no vacuum brakes), and he later pulls the great western autocoaches with Oliver on the little western. I know the 5700s were perfectly at home working branchline passenger trains, but it kinda just makes sense. I even feel like the way Thomas is written, a more mid sized 0-6-0t like a J72 would be a more suitable basis
Well, some people have been saying in the comments that Duck probably intentionally avoided helping out, so that the twins would be more likely to make up.
Donald an Douglas in this episode remind me of my brother and me. I want to spend time with my brother like Douglas wanting to make things up with Donald and my brother says no like Donald not wanting to amend things with Douglas.
The only thing i don't like about this episode is when the narrator says they always work together when they have been clearly working separately fine in previous seasons.
i say Twin Trouble is great. Although i prefer George Carlin Voicing the Scottish Twins, but what you said about Michael Angelis is understandable. and you saying Brotherly Love is a double Edged Sword reminds me of Cain and Abel from the Bible you know The First Ever Murder and the MAIN Writing Genius for Batman Arkham City?
You know what’s crazy in season 9 and 10 James is always pulling oil or tar tanker like that’s suspicious that has happen in Respect for Gordon, Percy and the Oil Painter, and Thomas new trucks. It probably happen in other episodes in seasons 9 or 10 , it’s an idea for another vid but can you make a theory video about why James is always pulling tankers
This is how to handle the sibling dynamic When the series went CGI and HIT took over and dumbed down the story for kids siblings lost all respect for each other
@@LolbyLolbz ? Lie what lie I just like them the same the fact they can act in unison but also have different personalities is a trate not many can pull off it show how great the writing is
@jordywatson1179 it's a phrase. I didn't say you were lying. Saying "you can't lie" is like saying "you can't deny" or "you have to agree" or "to be fair"
@@LolbyLolbz eh I would still disagree but let bygones be bygones am I right you see it your way I'll see it mine at the very least this didn't turn into a online argument like most conversations I've seen
I just think this episode became the scapegoat for the Scottish Twins' flanderization in the CGI seasons. I didn't like that they essentially made them constantly bicker at each other.
Can I just say that I absolutely ADORE the shot of the twins puffing next to each other but looking away from each other. Its like the steam engine equivalent of you turning your back to a sibling.
Give 'em the cold buffer, as it were.
Gave me the idea of the meme "When you and your arch nemesis are forced to work together but want nothing to do with one another".
I love this video. Twin Trouble is a gem, and the conflict between them feels real. I love that moment where Donald said “the other other line,” showing how he and Douglas can communicate so easily. I love when Douglas slowly realizes he misses Donald. And I love when he snaps and says “I have nothing to be sorry for,” and later argue about who’s sorry. They fit a lot of stuff into 4 and a half minutes
Couldn't agree more, thanks Stepney!
The thing i hate about it is that the scottish accents aren’t there
Angelis also did a pretty good Scottish accent. The US narrator Alec Baldwin sounded like he didn't even try to do a Scottish accent. Donald and Douglas are better with a Scottish accent because it is unique to some people who are from Scotland.
a lot of people say this episode is OVERATED not underated :(
And they would be the people that underate it 🙄 😉
Another thing that makes this episode so great is the music and what it symbolizes. When the episode opens, you can see Donald and Douglas puffing on the viaduct with loud bagpipe music playing. This represents the twins' relationship prior to their falling out. Later in the episode when Donald and Douglas are seen working alone, the bagpipe music is noticeably quieter. This symbolizes the break in the twins' relationship.
Insightful!
I love this video that you made about Twin Trouble. This could easily be the most reality based episode of Thomas ever. Unlike most other episodes from series 6, it's very down to earth given the relationship between two people. (Or in this case and most other Thomas ones = engines rather than people.) The fact that Donald and Douglas make up at the end of the episode makes children realise that you can always make up with family, friends, neighbours, colleagues, etc.
Here are some more Thomas episodes that you could make similar videos about for similar reasons. =
Buffer Bother = Like Twin Trouble, it shows that you can fall out with someone and then make up with them again before long. I think the only main difference is that Bill and Ben act a lot less mature about their arguments than Donald and Douglas do.
Thomas, Percy And The Dragon = Being scared and being brave do not always mean the same thing. It also shows how foolish you can be if you tease someone for being scared of something and then it turns out that you yourself can be even more scared of something else.
Oliver Owns Up = Never be niave about handling something for the first time.
Henry's Hero = Sometimes you just have to keep on doing whatever needs doing if you're not 100% with it or not generally not in the best mood.
James And The Coaches = Like Henry's Hero, you just have to keep moving if something goes wrong.
The Spotless Record = Playing tricks on someone who's usually get asset to a team can result in yourself getting into trouble rather than the victim.
Two Wheels Good = More of anything doesn't always mean more reliable.
Percy Takes The Plunge = Like Oliver Owns Up, you must always listen to advice about the dangers of the railway.
Big Strong Henry = Proving yourself to be something just to prove others can easily backfire and can get you into loads of trouble.
No More Mr Nice Engine = Like The Spotless Record, playing tricks on someone can backfire and land on yourself.
I feel like all of these episodes serve a special purpose in an educational way. They are pretty much about life lessons when you think about it.
I love how you recommended that we should watch the UK dub of this episode. Michael Angelis was a brilliant narrator and I will remember him by hearing his voice in the characters. R.I.P 1944 - 2020
what’s funny donald’s crew blames donald for the accident but by a logical point of view it’s technically the crew’s fault for not putting on the breaks before hitting the buffers.
More likely the driver did apply the brakes but Donald wouldn't cooperate and pay attention
Yeah that was so funny how that video pointed that out lol.
If this were the Railway Series, this definitely would have been a 2 parter. This episode is a great one and a good example as to why seasons 6 and 7 do fit in the classic era.
“I was just passing by, and wanted to say hello!” Said Douglas. “Have you come to say your sorry?” Donald said angrily. Douglas felt hurt, “I-I’ve nothing to be sorry for!” Douglas yelled back. He puffed away, without another word. But as he puffed away, he couldn’t help but sadder with every wheel turn, and by the time he got to his shed, he couldn’t help but sob tearfully. **credits music starts playing**
Now that you mention it, it does sound like this episode would have been better as a two-parter. I think that something they could do is first have Duck try to pull Donald back onto the tracks, then ask Douglas for help.
The late Reverand Awdry's reasoning is why I plan to read and watch Thomas the Tank Engine with my own children, if I am ever fortunate enough to have any.
While that would predict the downfall of D&D's characters in the CGI Series when they were brought back, both that and Love Me Tender are the only good episodes of the Scottish Twins' fallout. It's handled in a way that's not played down to kids and it has some really great moments. And I really love Michael Angelis' energy brought into the scenes of the episode. Another one of my absolute favorite of mine of S6.
If only someone else write a episode of Donald and Douglas in Season 21 instead of Davey Moore and write their characters correctly with no arguments.
Agree.
I always notice how Micheal Angelis stays in character as Douglas when he says the words "argued Douglas"
At 8:09 my theory is that Duck thought it would be a good chance for Douglas to help his twin so they can get along again
Never thought of it like that, great point! 👍
@@cindersandashesuk5744"Love Me Tender" did kinda teach children about caring for your siblings.
Donald and Douglas did constantly disagree with each other, but when Donald leaves Douglas to die without realizing until a minute and a half later on, it shows that both don't want each other to suffer different dimises when being separated.
"Emily in the middle" was the only Donald and Douglas episode I dislike because of how childish the twins were and Emily had to be the nanny of the situation... l:(
I much prefer Michael Angelis' narration for only "Twin Trouble" and "Percy's chocolate crunch". The rest of S6 was sorta fine for Alec Baldwin depending on how much emotion he had in his soul as he did in S5.
Tbh I really adore this episode and definitely one of my favourite episodes from the classic show
But it just proves that “dry characters” ain’t all that dry after all and the power of pushing characters
Like I didn’t really care for the Twins all that much but this episode just makes them more charming really
Donald is more of the anger side and Douglas is more of the hero kinda person really and I genuinely really loved what they did with Thomas and Duck as you said
Definitely a 10/10 episode for me personally
This episode was one of the most watched episodes from my childhood
Cool that Thomas is for general audiences and how Thomas develops
Yeah that is nice. It’s still one of my favorite shows. It’s also disturbing when you realize how dark it is.
Yeah that is nice. It’s still one of my favorite shows. It’s also disturbing when you realize how dark it is.
First off, I'm honored to have had a comment featured in your videos. Secondly, I agree with your analysis here, 100%. Another thing, though, is that this episode, instead of a two-parter, could've been THREE parts, as Thomas mentions he'd miss Annie and Clarabel, possibly implying that a similar situation happened with him along with Annie and Clarabel.
Like, imagine this: Douglas goes to his shed, and Thomas, say, has been sent there due to his line suffering damage. He could then tell Douglas about a story where he splits up with Annie and Clarabel... Which doesn't go too well, after which Thomas falls asleep, leaving Douglas deep in thought. Then the third episode could see Douglas remembering what Thomas said, and rescuing Donald with no hesitation.
I can see why some say this episode is overrated, as it was still rushed, and wasted lots of potential, (not to mention it reminds people of the CGI series, which just... They made Donald and Douglas argue WAY TOO MUCH) but it nonetheless was able to get its point across, which is more than what can be said about other episodes, like "Gordon and the Gremlin", "Buffer Bother" and "Middle Engine", which I don't see any clear message like "Twin Trouble" conveys, even with its flaws.
"Twin Trouble" isn't the best episode by any means, but it CERTAINLY isn't the worst, in my opinion being in between good and okay.
Also, It makes sense that Douglas is the least argumentative of the twins, as he was the one who was saved from scrap, so it'd be hard for him to insult Donald, who agreed to be painted identically to Douglas in order for him to escape the torch.
Twin Trouble is a good episode as a standalone episode, but I wish it didn’t inspire people (looking at you, Season 20-21 writers) to just characterize Donald and Douglas as these spiteful jerks who argue and can’t stand to be around each other. This is the complete opposite of who they are. Donald and Douglas are two brothers who deeply care about each other.
On a side note, I love how each twin reacts differently to the break up. It helps to differentiate the two of them in terms of personality. Really love that.
Also, I agre with you on One Good Turn. I like the episode, but geez, that ending was so rushed.
Only Davey Moore write the CGI Donald and Douglas episodes in Season 20-21, not the other writers.
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Well, he has a very poor understanding of them.
@@thomasspongeconductor2222 Exactly. If the other writers create episodes for Donald and Douglas in CGI, they would do their characters correctly.
Donald and Douglas are my favorite Scottish twin engines (as well as Bill and Ben the Saddle Tank engines) and I really like how their characters are portrayed in the season 6. Episode Twin Trouble thanks for sharing this interesting video 👍❤️
Without a doubt the best season 6 episode in my opinion.
Great video! I’m really enjoying the growth of your channel. I would love if you’d talk about “Rusty Saves the Day” as it deals with important themes of helping others but not at the cost of negating your own responsibilities. It also offers probably the best character growth for Elizabeth and doesn’t shy away from casting sort of a negative light on Sir Topham.
I really loved this episode so much as a kid, as it felt quite relatable.
Probably the most ironic part is that I’m a twin myself, so this episode always reminded me of my brother and I, how we have our own ways whether through communication or not, but also how it’s normal for any siblings, friends, couples to have their disagreements.
Thank you for making this video and for celebrating this fantastic episode. Donald and Douglas are two of the best characters in the series, and 'Twin Trouble' is one of the best episodes from the sixth series. It's definitely a hidden gem, and it was great to hear you talk about it as such🙂. I also like your musical intro with the TUGS theme. It actually works quite well with scenes from the episode. Perhaps you could that with other episodes; the best of both worlds.
I also saw your celebration of the spooky episodes, which was brilliant, and wonder if you would consider doing a video discussing 'Ghost Train'. As you said, it was the only ghost story written by the Reverend Awdry and I think there's a lot that can be said and celebrated about the storyline and the way it's portrayed in the TV series.
Thank you for these videos and for making us Thomas fans smile 😃
Thanks, K! That's actually an awesome idea 💡 a Video on Ghost Train could be really fun to do!
I always liked this episode as it feels just so accurate and classic while kinda fresh at the same time but this video has given me an all new appreciation for it and I now see it in a different, more complex light. Awesome video mate!
This is actually my favourite season 6 episode, so I can't wait to hear what you have to say about this
Thanks for covering my top two favourite characters and yes Twin Trouble is such a great episode of season 6.
Thanks for the kind words 🙃 Twin Trouble is great. Easily in my top 5 for season 6
I certainly love "Twin Trouble". I love to see more stories about Donald and Douglas, two of my absolute favourite Thomas & Friends characters! 😄 And this one never disappointed, despite the flaws season 6 had. I also agree it handled its message far better than "One Good Turn"! 😃
You know, a while back, I actually watched a different version of this episode with Bill and Ben replacing Donald and Douglas, as well as Edward and Derek replacing Thomas and Duck.
I think I've seen that in my recommendations, and that is an interesting take on it. Definitely a cool spin on the story.
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Donald save Douglas from scrap so you think he’d be more protective
and possessive of Douglas🚂🚂
I think Duck watching is just to help set the mood! It was a moment that he probably would have ruined had he have helped!
I wouldn't say this is one of my most popular episodes ever, but it's still quite nostalgic. I give it a 7/10.
Brilliant work on this video. Twin Trouble is one of my favorite Season 6 episodes, but it could be better if it isn’t constricted by 4 and a half minute time slot. Yeah, this should have been a two parter story arc, so it can allow more plot points and character interactions. Season 20’s Love Me Tender is the more superior episode when it comes to pacing.
The main issue I have with this episode is that Donald shouldn’t have had both accidents happen to him, Douglas should have gotten into that second accident instead as it would have given Douglas the chance to understand his twin’s point of view better after that first accident and it would have made their reconciliation even better. Otherwise it’s a great episode.
Donald has been classified by people and the Wiki as the more witty and jokey type while Douglas is seen as the more calmer and mature of the two I guess.
I could see that with their individual episodes in S3 that were adapted for TV, but to me I see Donald as more jokey in "Donald's duck" and "Tenders for Henry" and the more disgruntled and angrier type in "Emily in the middle", "Love me tender" and "Twin Trouble" and even in "Breakvan" while I see Douglas as the more sensitive type in "The Twin Engines", "Bluebells of England" and "Escape" when it comes to the topic of being sent away from Sodor and the concepts of scrap and death and the serious and mature type in "Twin Trouble" and "Love me tender" as he tries to solve whatever squabble he and Donald get into in a more calmer manner.
I don't know if other twins like Bill and Ben, Arry and Bert or Hell even Mighty Mac have their own individual personality but maybe it's just my thoughts on how twins or different brothers are different with behaviors in real life or in fiction. :/
"Emily in the middle" is the only Donald and Douglas episode I dislike because of how childish the twins were and Emily had to be the nanny of the situation... l:(
"Love me tender" is much better than that.
Ive mostly preferred Michael Angelis' narration for only "Twin Trouble" and "Percy's chocolate crunch". The rest of S6 was sorta fine for Alec Baldwin depending on how much emotion he had in his soul as he did in S5.
After watching this, I have an all new perspective of 'Twin Trouble'. It definitely has a good moral on the consequences of falling out and refusing to make up.
Usually when this episode is brought up it's often compared to 'Buffer Bother' as that episode has a similar structure. The only difference being it has a moral about not being jealous of others. That might make a interesting subject to talk about in another video.
Michael Angelis was better than Alec Baldwin in season 6. Thanks for echoing that sentiment
I think this episode always gets lumped together with buffer bother, since they are essentially the same episode. However, this episode is much better than a buffer bother in my opinion.
Agreed. It handles the sibling conflict much better
I have also noticed that it’s pretty much Donald who starts off the conflicts while Douglas gets provoked by him doing so not only here where Donald snapped first but also in Love Me Tender where Donald made them ending up doing what he wanted while Douglas didn’t get much chance to do what he wanted causing him to snap and also in Emily In The Middle where Donald was insisting them to take the huge train of pipes while Douglas wasn’t feeling too sure about it (understandably, and why would Sir Topham Hatt get three smaller tender engines to pull such a train rather than a bigger engine like Henry or even BoCo Murdoch or Hank, wait they’re dead and also Sam’s in America) and how the former was the first to want to swap places to be with Emily.
I fully agree with the two parter comment for this one, it would’ve left so much more of an impact
I like this episode. It reminded me a lot of arguments with my brother as a kid. Very realistic for a show about talking trains 🙂
Same here.
Twin trouble is probably one of my favorite season 6 episodes
Likewise!
One of my top 20 favorites!
Twin trouble is an amazing episode, and I wish Alec Baldwin tried to do a Scottish accent for the US dub. I would say it might be one of the best episodes from the Scottish twins. Great video dude 👍
I think I'd like this episode a lot more if their CGI personalities didn't just become arguing constantly so, with this episode being the first of that it had a negative affect on the episode. Its not the worst Donald and Douglas arguing story Though
Don’t remember if I said this in the last video’s comment section but this episode is still my favorite episode in the entire show’s history
I’ll Very Much Agree on Twin Touble is Underrated Thomas Episodes & One of The Best In Season 6 that I just wish they made it to 2 Part Episode
Binge watching your videos I like your idea of making this a 2 parter I think if that was the case having Douglas work with Oliver would bring in some nice continuity from Escape plus gives Oliver more than just a cameo in season 6 and maybe Toad can have the same expression of Thomas as "oh this fall out won't end well".
Great idea!
Just had a thought, how about 1 more tugs profile. This one on David Mitton and Robert Cardona
To me Donald and Douglas are the two stereotypical scots, Donald the one who rambles and talk a marathon when mad, Douglas the one who watches but is the more durable of the two.
I do agree that Twin Trouble should've been a two parter. And here's an even crazier thing: Series 6 in it's entirety should've been two parters with It's Only Snow as it's two parter finale.
im really enjoying you're Thomas videos
Thank you, Rocky
Aw man can't wait!
I love season 6 in general,despite what other Thomas fans like the unlucky tug have to say about it.
Season 6 (2002) is underrated in general, it comes so close to hitting the feel of the first five... I can’t believe there’s people who prefer Season 7 (2003); a different beast altogether.
I like both Season 6 & 7 in both a nostalgia sense I can't choose which one I like more however. The unfortunate situation with season 7 is how it started stating some of its morals outright. However I don't think ultimately it was as bad as it got in season 8. I think both are underated and have some solid gems in there.
Of all 4 set of twins i met i never seen them argue.
Totally agree, well done.
Thank you! 😊
@@cindersandashesuk5744 You’re welcome.
Before seeing your vid, I would've disagreed that Twin Trouble is an underrated episode. However, after seeing your vid, I can definitely see why it would be underrated. My biggest gripe with Twin Trouble* is that the conflict just felt so abrupt and forced that it seemed unnatural that Donald would go ballistic at Douglas for a simple accident (which wasn't even any of their faults but Trevor's). I do agree with your assessment that if they made the episode a two parter, I think it would've been better since if they built up the conflict before the accident (a la Love Me Tender), the fallout from the derailment wouldn't have been so abrupt. Still, I really like your idea of ending the two parter at the shed since that would've made for an interesting part 2. Frankly, my biggest gripe with Season 6 is a bunch of the story ideas needed to be flushed out more since that would've made a bunch of the stories as good as Season 5 (and don't get me started on Alec Baldwin's narration -or should I say lack thereof- since even Tommy Wiseau would've sounded much better narrating the stories).
*Before I forget, Twin Trouble will always be infinitely superior to the crap that ended up being Buffer Bother
To be fair, Donald wasn’t entirely wrong about Douglas pushing him into the cart. In the shot where Donald is shown to have put on his brakes, you can see that Douglas HASN’T, although, in his defence, he couldn’t actually see what was going on with his brother in the way.
My favorite part is "Not that other line. The other other line!"
I feel that another criticism that could be placed on this episode is how the American dub handled it.
While I don't hate Alec Baldwin's performance, his Scottish accent left a lot to be desired. In fact, he either made Duncan sound like he was either from the Bronx or Liverpool. In this episode, he didn't even bother with an accent, which made the explicitly Scottish Twins sound awkward in his voice.
I wish the producers found someone else to do this rather than him.
Agreed. I'm fond of how he handled most characters in the show tbh
@@cindersandashesuk5744 Yes. It's unfortunate that his Achilles Heel is in something that helps make certain characters more recognizable.
Oh well. I do have to thank you, though, for encouraging me to watch this episode. It gave me some things to think about, especially as a writer myself.
Unfortunately, Alec Baldwin had been going through a divorce at the time. That’s why he didn’t do good voicing Donald and Douglas and his narrations in S6 were a step down from S5.
I love Toby's bell (1:20)
Can you please talk about the narrow gauge engines stories of Granpuff, Sleeping Beauty, Bulldog, You Can't Win, Four Little Engines, A Bad Day for Sir Handel, Peter Sam and the Refreshment Lady, Trucks, Home at Last, Rock 'n' Roll, Special Funnel, Steam Roller, Passengers and Polish, Gallant Old Engine, Duncan Gets Spooked, Rusty and the Boulder, Snow, Dunkin Duncan, Rusty Saves the Day, Faulty Whistles, The Old Bridge, The Refreshment Lady's Tea Shop, Rheneas and the Roller Coaster, The Runaway Elephant, The Grand Opening and Trusty Rusty.
Brian Trueman, the writer of the episode has sadly passed away on September 1st of this year.
Rest in peace, Brian 😢
Cinder who is your fav character?
James
Cool I like donald and douglas
Edward Henry and James are 2nd 3rd and 4th
I agree that Duck should have helped in the rescue scene. it always bugged me just a hair, the line about Duck being too weak to rescue Donald. I get that the tank engine characters are written to be smaller and less capable, but in reality, both Duck and Thomas with full tanks of water would be a good bit stronger than Donald and Douglas. I have always felt that each of their basises were chosen just a bit arbitrarily. I have this headcannon that Duck is actually one of the smaller pannier designs like the 5400 or 6400 classes. He was illistrated as a 5400 in the first book(which was later rectified), he says he worked as a pilot at paddington(and later knapford)(I am not sure if the 5700s existed in the era when locomotives intended for goods work had no vacuum brakes), and he later pulls the great western autocoaches with Oliver on the little western. I know the 5700s were perfectly at home working branchline passenger trains, but it kinda just makes sense.
I even feel like the way Thomas is written, a more mid sized 0-6-0t like a J72 would be a more suitable basis
Well, some people have been saying in the comments that Duck probably intentionally avoided helping out, so that the twins would be more likely to make up.
This is actually my 2nd favorite episode of Season 6 (First is Thomas and the Jet Engine)
Please, list every story arc spanning over more than 1 episode
Donald an Douglas in this episode remind me of my brother and me. I want to spend time with my brother like Douglas wanting to make things up with Donald and my brother says no like Donald not wanting to amend things with Douglas.
The only thing i don't like about this episode is when the narrator says they always work together when they have been clearly working separately fine in previous seasons.
He says nearly always, not always which means that they do indeed work alone at times.
Does twin trouble remind of summer bummer from the powerpuff girls 2016?
i say Twin Trouble is great. Although i prefer George Carlin Voicing the Scottish Twins, but what you said about Michael Angelis is understandable. and you saying Brotherly Love is a double Edged Sword reminds me of Cain and Abel from the Bible you know The First Ever Murder and the MAIN Writing Genius for Batman Arkham City?
Nice
You know what’s crazy in season 9 and 10 James is always pulling oil or tar tanker like that’s suspicious that has happen in Respect for Gordon, Percy and the Oil Painter, and Thomas new trucks. It probably happen in other episodes in seasons 9 or 10 , it’s an idea for another vid but can you make a theory video about why James is always pulling tankers
Really good episode and sooooo underrated but donald and douglas are my fav characters so I am biast
Much better than buffer bother
This is how to handle the sibling dynamic
When the series went CGI and HIT took over and dumbed down the story for kids siblings lost all respect for each other
Arry and Bert somehow seem the most decent twins. Every time they truck an engine, they do it together
Crazy, right?
Except for the Brenner era.
@@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 what seasons were those? Not up on my who’s who I’m afraid
Cool
I agree Duck could of help but he wasn’t strong enough by the look of things. At least show a scene where he is trying.
Isn't this the inspiring for the bickering Scots?
Wow
SCOTLAND
I didn't even like the US stuff because I was following didn't even try giving them a Scottish accent I wish Michael Brandon narrate this season
This episode is way overhated
Guys who think that Douglas is Better Than Donald
Douglas > Donald
Woah woah woah wouldn't they be the same
@@jordywatson1179 sorta but Douglas has had a much better and more likeable character, with more major plot focus, you can't lie
@@LolbyLolbz ? Lie what lie I just like them the same the fact they can act in unison but also have different personalities is a trate not many can pull off it show how great the writing is
@jordywatson1179 it's a phrase. I didn't say you were lying. Saying "you can't lie" is like saying "you can't deny" or "you have to agree" or "to be fair"
@@LolbyLolbz eh I would still disagree but let bygones be bygones am I right you see it your way I'll see it mine at the very least this didn't turn into a online argument like most conversations I've seen
I just think this episode became the scapegoat for the Scottish Twins' flanderization in the CGI seasons. I didn't like that they essentially made them constantly bicker at each other.
Pity they didn't try harder to write them correctly in CGI by toning down bickering.
hi but can you do theodore theodore tug boat pls😁