Intel Skull Canyon NUC Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2016
- Intel has been pushing the "uncompromised performance" of their tiny new Skull Canyon NUC... So let's see how accurate those claims truly are!
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4:50 "Totally playable frame wate"
ofc 30 fps is playable. even 24 is considered playable although bit choppy. Do you expect 60 fps out of iGPU?
Dude, he's talking about the way Luke said "frame rate"
dat fwame wate
5:15 25sps? :o
30 FPS is totally playable... just not enjoyable.
wait, Amazon affiliate code? I thought you guys effed that up?
probably a video they had in the pipeline before all that happened
+RollADsix have to watch the last lan show. they don't really say; other than they aren't an affiliate anymore.
These vids are prerecorded and then uploaded in a schedule
They got kicked out of the program. Linus said something about violating the service when they told you to bookmark there Amazon affiliate code.
#LinusPrerecordedTips
Show more images of the product itself! You spend most of the time showing Luke... I don't watch the video to see him. I want to see the nice BIOS interface! show the power brick, show the screws, show a video of changing the cover, show a example setup of the NUC plugged to a screen! The games are playable at those FPS? Show a recording of the games for us to see how actually playing it is! You have so many editors and you are still have lazy videos with editing by the book... Up your game a bit Linus, you are better than this!
yea the first section of the video is him talking about the exterior design instead of actually showing the design in a shot, wth are we suppose to just use imagination
Wanted to see the bios after he talked about it.
It kind of felt like they didn't actually have one to review and just went off stock footage.
I agree. Seems like a bad product as well.
I was just about to comment that when I saw your comment!
Couldn't agree more. We see more of Luke than the actual product! I want to see the NUC not Luke talking
your guesstimate is wrong my chipotle burritos weight between 10 and 15 pounds
You must buy Chiploway in bulk to get those blood stains out of your underwear.
7 gamers 1 scull canian nuc
7 potatos, 1 skull canyon nuc
+DJS seven tomatoes one potato
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) totes possible, everyone will have 1/2 of a core and a very terrible graphics card ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
+Moozang 7 gamers, one tomatoe
2 girls 1 nuc
I've never had a direct use for one of these, but I've always wanted one, haha
I know im asking randomly but does anyone know a tool to get back into an Instagram account?
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Gotta say, this review seemed somewhat lazy. Its basically just footage of him talking. Didn't show it running the games or benchmarks, didn't even show the BIOS interface you praised. Barely got to see the NUC itself. Odd.
Atleast they put the Intro in there...
Completely agree.
It's not a review.
It's a bloody intel ad we all sat through. Wonder how much they got paid for this shit.
'playable framerate' meanwhile in the background you can see 25FPS jagged mess, piss off.
damstachizz
To be fair it's pretty impressive for an igpu and really not the intention of the product.
Love the NUCs! Have a handful of their other models deployed at work. Can't wait to see this one in person!
Am I the only one thinking of 3D printing a custom enclosure for this to somehow cool it with a Hyper 212 evo or something crazy?
That'd be pretty cool but defeat the purpose of portability.
Perhaps an AIO cooler is a more elegant solution?
Energy Core I was thinking that but then a single 120 aint enough and a 240 is too big. If you mount it on the back of your monitor with a heatsink off it should be alright.
ClownFace1511
That would be a pretty fucking cool project. Building your computer into the back of your monitor for a ghetto as fuck all in one system. Liquid cool it while you're at it.
Lucas Vagaj Magic ;)
Lucas Vagaj Pretty much XD
This most likely won't be seen by the Linus team.
Can you rerun the benchmarks test with faster and more RAM than 16GB 2133Mhz that you used in the video. I want to see how the CORSAIR Vengeance Performance 32GB (2 x 16G) 260-Pin DDR4 SO-DIMM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) Model CMSX32GX4M2A3000C16 will perform in the Intel Skull Canyon NUC. I want to see the timings and frequency of the RAM that the Intel Skull Canyon NUC performs at.
this is great linus loading up videos late night at 1:47. just the tech video I wanted to see. keep them coming true champion
I really like the optical solution opens this up to media centers
Luke kinda looks like he drank the 5th of vodka.
I really heard telling 'PCI Express capable sluts!' but it might be me thinking about something else than PCI slots ;-)
thats not much
@Picadie, Indeed, just enough to look like that xD
+RayBaxSkitch it's not mich,bro.if you ever drinked you know that
+RayBaxSkitch whatever
WHERE IS THE RAZER CORE WITH NUC VIDEO?!?!?!? I need this in my life lol
I think you should include media playback tests on these boxes as many wants to use them for this. Home cinema users wants to know if DTS HD MA 7.1 / Dolby TrueHD 7.1 (hence DTS:X and Dolby Atmos) will playback correct on the chipset and so forth. Just a suggestion. :)
I'm really considering this little pc. I have been going between this and different versions of custom ITX builds for a few months. But in the end I want something really small, really fast and I don't need that much graphics power. And in the end if I miss gaming to much I could get the razor core later. I could even VESA mount that sucker to the back of a curved display and have it wake on keystroke so I don't have to fiddle with the power button. To me it would be a really good solution.
linus it's 3:26 in the morning why are you uploading this now.
or as a better question, why am I watching tech videos at this time in the morning?
I ask myself the same thing every night. 3:28 AM now
+Seymore Butts 2:29 ?!?!
3:31 PM over here. Great after school banter
its only 12:30 am in vancouver
2:34 AM :D i just woke up :/
Run Prime95 on this thing your house would burn down.
run minesweeper on hd on this and incinerate the world...
+Xavier Bob I think pong in 4K
Nah I'm thinking of running Color TV Game 6 on six 8K displays in surround.
For reviews focused on tiny/portable systems it'd be nice to get the volume and weight of the power bricks along w/ the devices themselves. (that often ends up to be the harder spec to find!)
thanks for the great review can't wait to see what to see your next video on this product. Looks like a great little machine
9:04 Luke.exe is not responding
Love the fact that the NUC isn't even once shown next to an actual human so you could see the actual size of it..
+tpcs yeah because numbers are so much more visuel than actual footage. LTT's videos become more and more like "line work" boring scripts and overall they seem to put less effort in each video just to meet their "every day 1 video" policy
tpcs I didn't said that they DID. I said it SEEMS that they don't put as much effort in EACH video like in the old days just to meet their 1 vid every day policy. So basically it SEEMS they prefer quantity over quality and you can't argue with that.
What was that video up right at the end? I couldn't click on it. Nice review, by the way Luke.
i own the NUC6i7KYK. not a gamer - but love the device for the performance. i use it mostly for a small footprint media server. But, this thing is capable of so much more.
but can it run crysis?
Can it run Internet explorer?
It can run 3 of them! At a combined total of 31 FPS!
ya mum can run crysis
Can it run Minecraft?
go back to corn hub
Am I the only one who noticed the mistake with the Razer Blade Stealth specs ? I'm pretty sure the Razer Blade Stealth runs i7-6500U and not 6700HQ.. 6700HQ is the normal Razer blade I think ?
Looking forward of that NUC +eGPU test! :)
I have the Skullcayon Nuk with an Akitio Node eGPU running Asus’s Dual 1060 GTX 6gb GDDR5... It’s absolutely perfect for video editing, music production, DJing (esp Video DJing with the EGPU) and of LAN parties. I have mine set with 32GB of ram and 2 1TB M.2 drives. Drive one is OS and software and drive 2 is files and projects I am working on or with.
Where is this Skull Canyon with Razer Core video? It's been 5 months!
I want that video too!! :(
I always thought the nuc was an ssd... wow
I'd most certainly take another inch of height if it meant the Iris Pro could keep at its boost clocks. With 72EUs, the performance seems like it should scale a lot better compared to the 48EU part, and purportedly bandwidth isn't yet the issue. Anandtech showed it was running right up against its tjunction max (I think 99C?), and the GPU was dropping back to base clock from there.
Would be quite neet to see a dual system build made for streaming, maybe even adding in that VR guide from a little while ago.
frame weight heh heh heh
Heh heh heh
Ayyy, I was going to say that too. XD
Between that and 20 sps in tomb raider I almost lost it.
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It's been 5 months since Luke promised to make a video with Intel NUC + external GC. So... where is this test?
I love how the sponsor plug was filmed at a completely different time.
I just ordered one to replace my old Q8300 in the living room . With the 9602 gb card I installed (didn't think it would fit in the little case) I could strean YT videos @ 4k 30fps . With HDR , it would drop to 1080p . Worked fine with Steam in-home streaming . Hope it will do better ... maybe even handle my Rift S ...
How much fps in CSGO ? then this device is perfect for transport to lan partys
cs would probs get 60 low
well this+ razercore+GTX1070/RX480/some other card of a similar calibre is still more portable than like 95+% of systems but then again it is quite costly. I mean it is :
$650 for the NUC
$500 for the razer core
$200-400 for a graphics card, I would suggest RX 480, because you don't really need more.
But that is still $1350. But some ppl got more money than brainz am I rite?
You forgot the fact that this is a barebones kit and you still need an SSD etc. At this price it is honestly more economical to get a gaming laptop. You can get a similarly powerful laptop for under 1k if you're lucky and don't forget the laptop comes with a screen, speakers and microphone.
KokRiver yeah i forgot that.
Give it 8gb of 1600mhz ram and you will be hitting 50fps on low settings at 720p.
Now i dont know how this one exactly goes however I owned a Mac Mini late 2012 with a duel core 2.6ghz and it ran csgo at that "framewate"
This would be perfect on it with 16ghz. Probably even push it to 1080p i plan to pick one up for myself
4:50 Frame Wate
5:15 FPS? He seems really tired or something...
the fps is not bad but i mean like you can take it with you anywhere and its also smaller than a laptop!
I love those low-key outros :D
A review. and nothing about the noise fan from the NUC? and please keep us updated for razercore :)
Alright. Why isn't the NUC in view on the table when we see Luke behind his table. It would give us a sense of scale of the thing. All we got to see of the NUC is fancy B-roll footage which gives us no sense of scale whatsoever. . Is this an attempt to mislead the cunsumer? We all know you are sponsored by them. What's the reason behind this or is this just pure chance?
calm down, don't get offended.
Do you know how big a USB port or an HDMI port is? Then there you go. Aside from that, you can literally just google the dimensions.
There you go. See if you use your brain like this guy then maybe you won't get so worked up about something that seriously does not matter. Like seriously, "Is this an attempt to mislead the consumer?" No, its not... they just simply didn't decide to put it on the table beside him. Simple thing that you are trying (and failing) at making into some big deal.
the stealth has a quad core?
No. It's a anemic 15W dualcore. Video is wrong.
the stealth has a dual core i7-6700u the normal blade has a i7 6700hq quad core
+Basil Goh i7 6500u**
Razer Blade Stealth: i7-6500u
Razer Blade: i7 6700HQ.
this is just the perfect office oc for people that do stuff like AutoCAD or stuff like that. i just love that formfactor. i would just love to see a 5V one but they will need to do a bunch of custom stuff for that.
just let you know. The thunderbolt port on this thing is routed through the PCH, aka chipset. This might introduce latency and bandwidth issue when dealing with external graphics card. Especially this thing has a 950pro, which can takes up to half the speed of DMI link. The bandwidth left is around 1.5GBps, pcie 3.0 x 1.5. Curious about its performance with eGPU.
how about water cooling it?? mount it all behind monitor and smash all the performance into this all in one
Yeah a water cooler would fit into that for sure...
Probably not worth the difficulty of doing so.
...so the pipes, the contact pad, and the massive radiator in that... NO.
i know there is no block can mount on this Skull Canyo
but Linus can do badass stuff, right??
may be the water cool radiator is too big
but think about this small pc
even the radiator is big, it still smaller than a desktop
may be the performance come from water cool is worth it, isn't it?
火柴人Ex改 ...
I love LukeTechTips
I've been building tiny computers forever but they almost always have heat issues after using them for a long time. Prebuilt solutions like this are very tempting because they have been somewhat engineered to function at this size. Can't wait for more reasonable external graphics solutions to become available and more cost competitive.
Super excited for the upcoming external graphics card test video.
Yo dawg! We heard you like being able turn on your computer, so we put a power button on your computer!
5:17 damn 25 SPS is horrible (SPS?WTF LOL)
During the summer months/august you should do a round up of decent laptops that have thunderbolt 3 so they'd be good performance and portable laptops but when you want to sit down and game you can plug in an external GPU.
Seriously though, who would need to game in a "pinch"?
This might be portable, but what the hell man, what kind of statement is that?
31FPS on a shooter is "totally playable" ? You guys have low standards. :')
it all depends on the game, some games still run smooth with lower FPS, if it isn't stuttering or tearing it's playable
Its fairly small you know so 31fps is kinda good for that size
he wasnt expecting much from a computer smaller than a graphics card...
it is playable. its not ideal, but it is playable. the consoles prove this. you have low standards on your definitions of English words.
Most console players only ever play their shooter games @30 fps. I know it's not PC master race mentality to bring up console when defending the performance of a PC but this is ten times smaller than any console or PC yet still has this much power. When coming from something this size those frames are perfectly respectable.
650 dollars? no dedicated gpu? no ram?no drives?
HELL NO!!!!!
But you're getting a high end i7, with an entirely custom motherboard and case. The price is pretty average for the hardware in it.
LiquidPanic full barbones for same price doesnt mean anything to you i gues.
BloodRayne559 what i do understand is i put in my pocket and i cant use it . i move around (go to a friends house )and pull it out connect and power it up , i still cant use .why? well no ram ,no drives and no GPU.
and no i will never rely on iGPU because it lacks performance or do you wanne bragg with your igpu that does 30 FPS?.
now to get an unuseable device for 650 dollar is no match to an useable barbone for same price and even that you cant put it in your pocket but is small and light enough to move around with it.how much cost an laptop these days ? yea right......
price pretty average?? you work at intel??
man you can get a monitor for 200$ and turn it into a pretty powerful all-in-one for like 800$, thats not bad at all
MrBall Breeder Please find me a laptop as powerful as this NUC for the same price. Once you buy RAM and a drive for the NUC, it will be cheaper than any laptop with the same performance.
Do you have voltage control on that board? If you do, it would be interesting to undervolt the CPU and re-run the stress tests.
4:51 Hmmmmmm totaly playable "FwameWeight". My interest has peaked
Has anybody hackintoshed one of these?
Not a bad idea...
+BushcraftWumbology Not for editing!
Doubt it would be an issue, as you dont have to deal with gpu compatibility. If it uses an intel wifi chip (more than likely), you would have to replace that for a broadcom chip, but other than that, I dont see any reason you woudnt be able to...
+Shreesha S besides that im just worried the DSDT and SSDT of this NUC may be hard to edit... I know there is specific tutorial for previous NUC, not sure if anything is available for this cool NUC
Yeah, unless you cherry pick parts for a hackintosh build, you will have some little thing go wrong... Tried getting yosemite to run on my razer blade 14 for the multitasking gestures, but it was a pain getting the keyboard, trackpad, and igpu to be recognized...
30 fps is not playable for shooter games
+Stefan Sulejic lol
+Stefan Sulejic actually, next gen runs 60 for mp shooters
+Gerzo they do.
nah
Any competitive game worth a crap runs at 60, such as every COD multiplayer and Titanfall.
On the iFixit add Luke says save $5 when spending $10, but the text below him says on $50 which is wrong, $10 is correct.
I'm very interested in this NUC. I'd like to get this as a replacement PC for my 9yo kid. He does light gaming (...Minecraft, Roblox, Gary's Mod....a few Steam titles) and watches a lot of TH-cam, paired with a standard 1920x1080 display. Nothing fancy. And I like all the USB ports.
DID HE SAY SANS THE SKULL
SAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNSSSS!
Yeah, so? Sans is french for without...
Undertale fans are cancer
Non Queueing Matt Excuse me? I have never even played undertale?
*****
I know, I'm refering to OtakuBowl
and Tac.
I thought this was a useless tech over $100 video...
lol no - it isn't Apple..
You guys should make a video about good practices for network and internet security
actually when you say it includes a thunderbolt 3 port. the price becomes compleatly on par with the desktop pricing. I don't know if the 3d print specs include over the fan shroud, but it should be a "relatively" easy mod to allow mounting an AIO water cooler to it if you have a 3d printer. if else, nothing a caliper and some time can't solve. This may be the best deal for a pc aiming at small form factor out there.
Stop complaining about 30 fps being unplayable. It's playable. You're not going to bleed from your eyes. Get over yourselves and stop whining.
I want to rip my hair from my skull when playing at 30 fps. You won't die but it is very unpleasant.
But that's just wrong
Have you even experienced 60fps?
TheBobbyBoy Obviously
+Dantheman1you0 I have my doubts about that, but anyways, 30fps being playable really depends on the game. For example, Dark Souls 3 at 30fps feels fine while Witcher 3 at 30fps feels horrible.
I'd love a test with this and an external GPU in the future!
3:53 I like that FaZe Apex reference
7:08 Hi! Any estimation on when the video you are promising to do about connecting the Skull canyon with the Razer core is going to come out? While you are at it, could you perform some tests on this combo, to see if it can support VR?
I agree with a lot of people that say that you haven't done a great review of this product, I would have liked to know if things such as fan speeds could be tweaked for absolutely NO throttling, bad temp range, ect. Just some constructive feedback though.
I would like to see this in a head to head with other small desktop computers in both a work environment (video editing etc) and in gaming.
Got mine in Feb of 2020 with a 1tb crucial mx300 and 32gb of corsair vengeance ddr4 for $250 from craigslist. It basically just runs YT on my downstairs TV but I have duckstation and some lighter weight games from my steam library on it too.
2 things I don't like about it after 2+ years. 1) The fan is obnoxious. It's "idling" at 36 C right now in a quiet room and I can hear the thing from 10+ feet away. My prior optiplex micro was much quieter. 2) The wireless card is integrated into the main board. 2 ssd slots, 2 ram slots, why no wireless card slot?
Would have been nice if we could use the NUC for a portable VR setup. Something similar to the Alienware VR Backpack that was shown at E3?
don't forget that big power brick that you should add into the weight and volume, which makes this whole setup a double size and double weight
I have waited so long for this review. Thank you
While I got an idea of how big it is, when talking about a "tiny" PC it would be nice to see it next to something, or someone holding it so we can get a better sense of the size.
it certainly has potential for younger people who wanna do a lot of competitive gaming, and go to lan parties i think. runs those popular games (CSGO, DOTA2 ect.) decently and is easy to move around
You can probably mod the NUC to have an aftermarket cooler. Even if it's small, it'll be better than default.
check out the DAN SFX A4, its not much larger than the Razer Core, but it holds an ITX motherboard as well as a full size graphics card and SFX-L power supply!!!
now THAT is the ultimate in small computing....
Can you do a video on a low cost, low power consumption pfSense router? :) the NUC made me think of that (although the NUC only has 1 ethernet port)
Attachable to the back of a monitor? Methinks there are some interesting possibilities for a retro gaming arcade with that, it would maybe be able to emulate a Wii or Wii U like that, and would crush everything else as well. Could be a great setup for a ROM hacker or homebrew developer, with an accurate emulator and collection of old consoles you could do hobbyist development targeting, say, an SNES, and then pull it out an try it on real hardware occasionally.
Can you put it in a fridge? Like you did with the Zotac Pico? And will we see the test with the Razer Core attached?
+LinusTechTips so, what numbers are correct (5:36)? These in graph or what Luke said?
hey luke i'm pretty sure the razer stealth uses an i7 6500u. are you sure it isnt a razer blade 2015?
I wonder if it's possible to be able to use a small USB fan to cool the APU in it. I do that with my Surface and it seems to work absurdly well. I can get my games running from 30 fps to the upper 40s 50s, and even 60s if the game is optimized well.
When you get a device like a Razer Core, I would love to see a comparison video on a GPU mounted in a PCI Express port versus running it in the Core over Thunderbolt.
It would be an interesting setup to have this mounted to a 4k monitor, and a razer core on the side. Impractical, but it would look cool and minimalistic.
You've got the thermals chart mixed up (the 7-zip and the crysis 3)
Hyped to see your next video - SFF FTW!
Do we has to install the os or windows will be already installed?? +LinusTechTips
Can we see Luke do some builds like the Fallout one again?? I really loved that series and I totally enjoy those sorts of builds.
Give us some insight on IGD Memory and IGD Aperture Size. :)
something at this size that could be connected to a external desktop GPU enclosure would be so cool.
It would've been great if Intel went with Iris Pro 6200 on a Broadwell CPU rather than Iris Pro 580 on a Skylake CPU.
5:21 You can hit 60FPS on those games at those settings (maybe not TR) with Iris Pro 6200.
Greetings, Any new version of this in the foreseeable future or already available?
Is NUC currently upgradable to the point that it could power a VR set, or is that still a ways off? Like, could you add a GTX 1060 or better to it? I ask because they'd be a great backpack unit for VR headsets since the NUC is so small.
is it something safe more me to pack in my bag for going places or would it get damaged?
thats a Flexi Jacl for audio basically. Just use a 3.5mm to toslink cable/adapter which are really cheap anyways. I have a 3.5mm to toslink cable already and paid like $5 for it so yeah.
7:31 that "segue" though :D
Could you guys do some energy efficient gaming pc builds or suggest some energy efficient gaming solutions? People in my house are uh..zellous about not "wasting" energy, but I still want to play games.
sweet when you attach a razor core to the nuc could you put in a 1080 please ;D
Its a nice beginning of better things to come.