The Olympic 1500m final will be a contrast in styles/strategies. Historically, the Olympic 1500m final has been a slow(ish), tactical race. Often resulting in "slow" times by international standards. Not having pacemakers and with a field stacked with top runners, it comes down to the "sit and kick" runners versus anyone stupid enough to attempt to kamikazi themselves by leading and trying to force a fast pace. It opens them up to a "sitter" outsprinting them in the finishing straight. So, a very good 800m runner with a good finishing sprint, has a huge advantage over someone who often races 5000m and relies on strength/stamina to win shorter races so needs a fast run race. That might mean going to the front to ensure a strength saping event, to blunt the sitters. One slight advantage for those longer distance runners is the fact they have had to run heats and semis before the final, often blunting the strength of natural 800m runners. A perfect example of this was in 1976 when the 1500m final was dominated by a large number of 800m runners. The race was slow: no one wanted to lead. The eventual winner was John Walker, who had failed to even make the 800m final but was the world mile and 2000m record holder who had to hit the front with 400m to go and pore on the pace to blunt the finish of half a dozen 800m guys, many who had made the 800m final, including the 800m silver/bronze medalists. In a mad last lap, his strength won out and he was successful. This is probably what Jakob will have to do. BUT... if he takes the lead too early, like end of 1st lap, there are enough fast finishes who will sit on him and possibly outsprint him at the finish.
That’s all true but as shown in the beginning very few athletes were able to run sub 3.29 in the last 3 years meaning that if Jakob can set a 3.28 pace he’s barely have any competition, though I agree with you the final will be slower and considering all the heats and the 5000 he might not be able to run 3.28 or lower all by himself
Exactly , there was no jealousy or anger in his response . Just the truth, they aren't good friends but, they are competitors and Jacob has some competitors that are good friends and others that aren't . I agree with Jabob , nobody can be friends with everyone but, there is a general respect between all the competitors about how much hard work it takes to be the best
@@thedailystride5407I think he means that the injury is just an excuse for worse performance. Still it doesn't make sense I mean it's not like jakob has started binge drinking, but I'm sure the guy has some crazy theory that explains the dip in performance.
And Josh and Jake are living rent free in Jakob fans heads. Look at any post that is about then and the comments and just about Jakob, and some of them a riding him hard
Jakob is a fantastic runner ! His rivalry with Kerr and Wightman reminds me of the Seb Coe and Steve Ovett days ! Of course, Cram, Crabb, and Elliott rose up as very good runners. My favorite top milers were John Walker of New Zealand and Steve Scott of the USA. Both had ran over 100 sub 4 minute miles in their careers ! Thank you for all of the great runners of today. We are blessed today to see this diversity of talent that gives us exciting races !
Coe and Ovett were the two outstanding milers of the era, and were followed by Cram. Neither Kerr nor Wightman have shown the sort of consistent form to be classed with Ingebritsen. Who wins an Olympic title on the day is always a matter for conjecture.
Stop making this a story. There is no "rivalry" between Kerr and Jakob. A singular win against 10+ losses isn't much of a rivalry... Furthermore, Jakob has the 1500m European Record while the Kerr doesn't even have the British record... YAWN.
Yall ride this man Jacob so hard as if he always has the perfect race when it matters most. No one cares abt the 6 or so random races through the season years ago, what matters is who’s better in the world final. Jacob is an amazing athlete but is clearly not good enough for people to act like no one has a chance to beat him when they need to
@@solomonhiggins4576 Random races! in which he sets a world record, a world best, 3rd fastest mile in history and runs the 4 fastest 1500m times of 2023...... So, according to all the experts that comment here, his resume for 2023 wasn't perfect, or even acceptable ....so what, he is still the best on aggregate Period!!
We got a Beef Nostradamus? Good. And an injury 🤕? People think running is for kids until they have to run. Running beats us all down. I hope Jacob recovers 🙏 and Kerr is well.
As I recall, Coe wasn't even considered a 1500m runner at the time, he was thought of as an 800m specialist. Cram & Ovett were considered the 1500m specialists.
Idk if that’s for sure, what happened the last 2 years? People get too caught up in someone’s PR. An Olympic final isn’t abt your PR it’s abt who can handle pressure and be the smartest
A reply to those who regard Jacob as arrogant. A year ago, when the Cursa Dels Nassos race was held in Barcelona and Jakob had to start 5km, my young runner was hoping to get a picture with Jakob. Then at one point Robert (my runner) called out - Jakob is coming. I immediately called out to Jakob - can we have a picture with this young man? The guard was already pushing us aside, but Jakob pushed the guard aside and came to Robert! The boy has an excellent picture in Barcelona at night with Jakob. Where is the arrogance? It is very foolish to express an opinion about a person based on gossip and the imaginations of various journalists. Real life is completely different!
I mean that’s a good list obviously starting with Nuguse but if you’re putting Sahlman in there you have to include at least another unmentioned 10-15 guys atm.
It’s common knowledge that when a champion has to cut back on training, there’s a strong possibility of achieving a personal best! Parker Valby cross trains extensively.
You don't mention Peter Snell who won 1960 gold in 800 meters and doubled up with 800 and 1500 gold in 1964. In a shortish career, Snell dominated middle distance and on today's tracks, with todays shoe technology, would more than likely be up there with Jacob. Both incredible phenomena in the middle distance and generational standouts. Love watching Jacob as I loved watching Snell, powerful acceleration and finish. Get well Jacob and nail it these Olympics.
I think in your final question you should really put Katir I’ve watched multiple races where he is the only runner who can almost have a chance at beating Jakob in a kick. Just my opinion though but I think he’s an underdog for sure!
Is just comparing times enough to predict the outcome of a championship race? In Paris you have no pacers and everyone has to go a few extra meters because you can’t always stay on the inner lane. Having to run 10m more is probably unavoidable (half a lane width on average), and it adds approx. 2 seconds (3:27 to 3:29)? Are Kerr and Wightman just focusing more on the medal than on the record? In any case, it will be an exciting race!
No matter what the outcome in Paris Jacob has already won a Olympic gold no one can take that away from him It’s going to be rough final 400 meters someone may very well fall due to The heat of the competition
Josh talking about a rivalry is pretty strange. What rivalry? He won one important race, a very important one for sure! But still just the one. That’s not a rivalry, that a lucky break.
Glad to Jakobs focus is clear. Trash talk is cheap. I know we are talking 1500m here but when mentioning the greatest back to back middle distance gold medal athletes, dont forget Kiwi Peter Snell's 800m Olympic Gold medal in Rome 1960 and 800m plus 1500m Golds in Tokyo 1964. Back to back 800m with an added 1500m kicker.
BIG YAWN! 😴 How many times are you going to recycle this Jakob v Josh story? With regard to Paris 2024, how about the Dutch teenager who posted some sensational times last year? The Olympic track races aren't typically won in world record times, so he has as good shot as everyone else if he gets through the heats and has a good run in the finals.
Is there enough places in the Olympic final for all these possible gold medalists?! You didn't even mention Jake Wightman or that rising young Dutch athlete Niels Laros (still only 18 - certain to be an improving athlete).
Nate Crail (8 comments down: Stop making this a story. There is no "rivalry" between Kerr and Jakob. A singular win against 10+ losses isn't much of a rivalry... Furthermore, Jakob has the 1500m European Record while the Kerr doesn't even have the British record... YAWN.) hit the nail on the head. And don't forget Kerr was promptly outkicked by Nuguse in Kerr's very next Diamond League race in Zurich following the WC in Budapest. Kerr says he wants his competitors to say Kerr was the best runner "today" - his "today" sit & kick yawner in the 2023 WC will be a distant, waning memory down the road, while Ingebrigtsen's 2023 season with his 2-mile & 2K WRs (beating Komen's 2-mile WR by 4-secs was unbelievable), his near WR in the mile @ the Pre Classic in September, his ER in the 1500 and 3K, and his 2nd 5K WC will never be forgotten. Ingebrigtsen may have spoiled it for distance running fans with his season last summer - I'm at the point now that if the race isn't designed from the beginning to go for an area, natl, or world record, I don't even want to watch it. If anyone doubts Ingebrigtsen's grit & kick @ the end of a race, rewatch the end of the WC 5K (Katir had 3m on him with 75m to go) and the last lap of the 3K @ the Pre Classic (Ingebrigtsen's & indoor mile world record holder Kejelcha's 300m duel to the end). I don't know if Ingebrigtsen will be able to recover in time from his current injury to win his 2nd Olympic gold this year. Unless he can quickly recover and the rest actually does him more good than harm, it appears Nuguse, Katir, and Kipsang will likely be in the mix.
The crazy thing about Seb Coe being the only runner to win the Olympic 1500m title twice is that he was a better 800m runner and he never won that at the Olympics. He wasn't even the best 1500m runner from the UK for most of his career. In 1980 most people assumed Coe would win the 800m and Ovett would win the 1500m and in 84, Coe the 800m and Cram the 1500m. It really goes to show that anything can happen on race day.
Coe ran a terrible tactical 800m race in 1980 and Joachim Cruz was unbeatable in 84. Coe's finishing speed in the 1500m was something else and once he got away there was no catching him, Ovett should never have let him open up such a gap in the 1500m as Coe could tend to tighten up if challenged in the home straight.
Jacob has become like Tiger Woods in dominance. We have to guess whether he will win, or someone in the field will win. There isn’t one specific runner who we can state as his rival. We have to name several people who could get him on the given day. With Tiger is was always, “Will it be Tiger, or the field?” It was never, “Will it be Tiger or Phil.”
Their rivalry feels so strange to me. Runners are usually so humble, polite, and supportive. The least toxic people I know. Jakob seems to be meeting those expectations I have for our sport, while Kerr is not.
Tbh, I think Josh is playing it up for the camera. The rival is a good think because it will help boost engagement in the sport. And while Jakob is being more reserved, I would say his fans are not. Look at any post about Josh or Jake, and most of the comments will just be Jakob fans going on about how Jacob would have done better.
Note Timothy Cheruiyot 🇰🇪 is having a Sabbatical in 2024 He will not compete this year ,rather Watch out for me younger Reynold Cheruiyot and Kipsang from 🇰🇪 Jakob Ingebrigtsen will retain his Gold medal Nuguse silver and Bronze open Between ANY 3 OF THE SPANISH ATHLETES Azzedine Habz from France and obviously NORDÅS. ATHLETES WHO CAN MAKE FINALS Young Dutch athlete Niels Laros , British Athlete Neil Gourley, Josh Kerr who wont medal Stewart McSWEYN from down under . I believe Big mouth Josh Kerr will run at New Balance indoor on 4 Match in Boston
Both Ker and Jacob are narcissists. Narcissists don’t like other narcissists. But I love to watch both of them race. So happy they both exist. I do think if Jacob is injured the race could go to Ker, Nuguse, Katir or a lot of other names. Will be fun to watch. If Jacob is not in form at least Kipsang won’t be afraid to take it out fast.
Coe didn't "take down Jurgen Straub" in 1980 olympics despite what the records show, he took down his great British rival Steve Ovett who eased up once he realized Coe was not being caught, Ovett didn't bother pushing in the final few strides and let Straub have silver, he crossed the line with a wry smile on his face.
I guess and i hope that Ingebrigtsen is going to win... I hate trashtalking athletes, in my opinion it is bad sportsmanship and the funny part is: Most of the time it motivates their opponents instead of influence them in a bad way, it is "dumb".
If Jacob is healthy , he will Win ! Jared Naguise will Win if Jacob can't get healthy soon enough . And I think if Cole Hocker is healthy he can sneak in for a Gold /Silver or Bronze medal
@@NateCrail I think if Cole Hocker he's healthy and improves this year , he's got the finishing kick to place in the top 3 .... Kerr won't even finish in the top 3
so pleased they caught Katir.... hate drug cheats.. I thought Kerr's comments were fine and I also thought Jakob's reply was super cool too - both were super accurate..... With the injury you have to go with Kerr for the Gold (especially after his 2M WR) - but Cole Hocker is so fast in the last 200m but can he run off a super fast pace?
Only the press is calling this a rivalry. The press is trying to blow this up. Jakob isn't giving much thought at all to Kerr who beat him when he was ill and has rarely ever beat him before. The person Kerr is really disrespecting is Yared Nuguse who is way better than Kerr. Jakob also won two gold medals at Worlds and I don't why people keep treating this 5,000 meters achievement like it was chopped liver!
Oh yeah, Yared Nuguse is incredible, and not only that, but he is has an amazing personality, similar to Jake Weightman (is that how you spell his last name?). Doesn't Yared have like a 12:47 5k or something like that?
So far it seems Kerr is trying to make a rivalry out of one "lucky" win in an admittedly important race. Stay focused on yourself dude, if you feel you have to psyche someone out to beat them, imo opinion youve already lost and man will the fall be a great one if you cant walk the walk afterwards heh
Tell that to the England cricket team. All that arrogant bluster and big talk and the Aussies just rolled up and made fools of them in the first two Tests.
How was that a lucky win. Kerr was better than Jacob on that day of the final and that’s all that matters cuz he got the gold and Jacob got silver. There is no luck, he just simply won
Ingebrigtsen fans are way more disrespectful than Josh Kerr has ever been. How on earth are you calling 3.29 1,500m World Championship final win "lucky".
Am I the only one that has noticed that Jakob is the first world champion with a longer torso than legs? Usually runners are mostly legs, but he's an anomaly. No other comment, just thought that was weird.
Ingebrigtsen should be the favorite, especially if he can get a good race or two before the Olympics. Kerr should be the 2nd favorite. Kerr has been running very well. But if you add up everyone else, I think it's more likely that someone else steps up and takes the gold. Is there a betting market for the 1500m Olympic Final?
maybe he does it for clickbait and audience capture purposes, but Josh Kerr sounds quite petty, honestly. I'm Team Yared, but respect the superhuman talent and drive that is Jakob Ingebrigtsen
You do say some ill-judged things. '....shows a very strong and unchallenged Ingebrigtsen...over the previous 3 years' Are you serious...unchallenged? There have been 3 world-wide titles over 1500m on offer in the last 3 years but Ingebritgsen has won just one of them..the exact same number as Kerr and Wightman. I assume you knew this so why on earth say he is 'unchallenged? I doubt anyone would rank Jakob as anything other than no.1 but his main strength is running fast over the distance with pacemakers in place with the specific objective of helping him to do so. In championship races, pacemakers are not allowed, so he has to compete 'normally' and this shows him not to be the only one capable of running very fast and also that he is not the fastest finisher. Keep it real please. I love watching Jakob compete, he is very good for the sport but so is Josh and his trash-talk which is reminiscent of boxing and adds excitement. You idolising one individual detracts from how genuinely competitive this event is and the fact there are a minimum of 6 genuine strong contenders for Paris...Ingebrigtsen, Kerr, Wightman, Nuguse, Laros and Nordas and that is without mentioning any Africans at all. Would you like a bet with me over who will win in Paris?
@@deeperanddeeper he did compete in both. In each of those Olympics half the world didn't compete. United States boycotted 1980 and USSR boycotted 1984. Some good athletes did not attend.
@@deeperanddeeper well, he won both. And even if all the nations represented he probably still have won. Just the odds go down with more higher caliber athletes.
So he has fallen out with his father Gjert and asked the police to prosecute him? It's like the drummer in Whiplash asking the police to investigate after winning the jazz awards. This injury is no coincidence IMHO.
I love both Jakob and Kerr, but the latter is trying to maximize its latest win in the WC. Jakob right now, in relation to WC titles, is like El Guerrouj in the 2004 Olympic final. But for the time being, the Olympics, I guess that if Jakob is 100% fit, he will win. The defeat against Wightman I guess it was due to over confidence of Jakob, but I have the idea that he lost to Kerr in 2023 because he was not 100% fit. 2023 season for Jakob was extremely demanding and with a good set of results, so it's natural he became tired at the end. But the quality is there, let's see how it's fitness in the following months unfolds, and also if Kerr manages to work as hard as he trash talks...
Humility obviously isn't Kerr's strong card... there are so many great athletes that could end up out-performing Kerr. I have never been a fan of arrogance....
Kerr is just pushing Jakob for better performance it's not easy to lose three times for Edinburgh track club athletes and be remembered as greatest of all-time.
They know what they’re doing. When they do toe the line together the little bit of drama will make the race that much better. It’s going to be a great race for sure!
Bro Kerr is a joke compared to Jakob. Jakob set WR before the 1500 world finals Jakob also ran & won 5000m at World Champs Jakob ran the second fastest 1 mile and 3000 right after, AND within 24 hrs from each other Kerr couldn’t pull half of that
Jakob is a very mature, talented athlete who gets on with doing what he has to do to be the great athlete he is. Josh and the rest sound like bitchy school girls in the playground.
@@itzStrFtw Sorry to burst your Jakob fanboy bubble, but Josh Kerr ran a 8 minute flat 2 mile indoor and won the 3k indoor race a couple days after the 2 mile.
Chime in however is a PT or knows better, but I could have sworn that an elliptical is NOT the type of machine you want to use for an Achilles injury. I've been told to avoid elliptical when dealing with Achilles tendinopathy.
wasnt jakob sick when kerr beat him? kerr is making himself look petty and foolish. we get it guy, you are trying to shake up the unshakeable ingebrigsten.
Ingebrigtsen's ability to be sick immediately after a 1,500m semi final and immediately before a 5,000m heat every time he loses to a Brit, is extraordinary.
The Olympic 1500m final will be a contrast in styles/strategies. Historically, the Olympic 1500m final has been a slow(ish), tactical race. Often resulting in "slow" times by international standards. Not having pacemakers and with a field stacked with top runners, it comes down to the "sit and kick" runners versus anyone stupid enough to attempt to kamikazi themselves by leading and trying to force a fast pace. It opens them up to a "sitter" outsprinting them in the finishing straight.
So, a very good 800m runner with a good finishing sprint, has a huge advantage over someone who often races 5000m and relies on strength/stamina to win shorter races so needs a fast run race. That might mean going to the front to ensure a strength saping event, to blunt the sitters.
One slight advantage for those longer distance runners is the fact they have had to run heats and semis before the final, often blunting the strength of natural 800m runners.
A perfect example of this was in 1976 when the 1500m final was dominated by a large number of 800m runners. The race was slow: no one wanted to lead. The eventual winner was John Walker, who had failed to even make the 800m final but was the world mile and 2000m record holder who had to hit the front with 400m to go and pore on the pace to blunt the finish of half a dozen 800m guys, many who had made the 800m final, including the 800m silver/bronze medalists. In a mad last lap, his strength won out and he was successful. This is probably what Jakob will have to do. BUT... if he takes the lead too early, like end of 1st lap, there are enough fast finishes who will sit on him and possibly outsprint him at the finish.
That’s all true but as shown in the beginning very few athletes were able to run sub 3.29 in the last 3 years meaning that if Jakob can set a 3.28 pace he’s barely have any competition, though I agree with you the final will be slower and considering all the heats and the 5000 he might not be able to run 3.28 or lower all by himself
A healthy Jakob wins, if not I can foresee Yared, Nordas, and Mo Katir to medal, so Kerr will have others to worry about than just Jakob!
Mo cheatir
jajajaja Why?@@matkrek
@@userten4340Mo Katir got banned for 2 years i believe
@@userten4340 He had a 2 year ban for missing 3 doping tests and likely has been rightfully accused of PEDs.
Very classy answer from Jakob
Exactly , there was no jealousy or anger in his response . Just the truth, they aren't good friends but, they are competitors and Jacob has some competitors that are good friends and others that aren't . I agree with Jabob , nobody can be friends with everyone but, there is a general respect between all the competitors about how much hard work it takes to be the best
Jakob’s injury is the only thing preventing him from dominating 2024. If he heals up he’s not losing in Paris.
Staying uninjured is part of the game
@@TheRemulosEpsolonProgrammelol oh yes he’s struggled to run for months intentionally because it’s an excuse
@@TheRemulosEpsolonProgramme a common dumbass in his natural habitat
@@thedailystride5407I think he means that the injury is just an excuse for worse performance. Still it doesn't make sense I mean it's not like jakob has started binge drinking, but I'm sure the guy has some crazy theory that explains the dip in performance.
Bit arrogant.
I mean, considering he didn't win either of the last two 1,500m World Championships.
Jacob is living rent free in Josh's head, no doubt about that.
And Josh and Jake are living rent free in Jakob fans heads. Look at any post that is about then and the comments and just about Jakob, and some of them a riding him hard
Jakob is a fantastic runner ! His rivalry with Kerr and Wightman reminds me of the Seb Coe and Steve Ovett days ! Of course, Cram, Crabb, and Elliott rose up as very good runners. My favorite top milers were John Walker of New Zealand and Steve Scott of the USA. Both had ran over 100 sub 4 minute miles in their careers ! Thank you for all of the great runners of today. We are blessed today to see this diversity of talent that gives us exciting races !
Coe and Ovett were the two outstanding milers of the era, and were followed by Cram. Neither Kerr nor Wightman have shown the sort of consistent form to be classed with Ingebritsen. Who wins an Olympic title on the day is always a matter for conjecture.
What an elaborate well mannered and classy answer from Jacob. So nice to hear!
Stop making this a story. There is no "rivalry" between Kerr and Jakob. A singular win against 10+ losses isn't much of a rivalry... Furthermore, Jakob has the 1500m European Record while the Kerr doesn't even have the British record... YAWN.
Yall ride this man Jacob so hard as if he always has the perfect race when it matters most. No one cares abt the 6 or so random races through the season years ago, what matters is who’s better in the world final. Jacob is an amazing athlete but is clearly not good enough for people to act like no one has a chance to beat him when they need to
Yes, it takes two to tango. I only see one of them being a bit of a dick.
@@solomonhiggins4576 Random races! in which he sets a world record, a world best, 3rd fastest mile in history and runs the 4 fastest 1500m times of 2023...... So, according to all the experts that comment here, his resume for 2023 wasn't perfect, or even acceptable ....so what, he is still the best on aggregate Period!!
@solomonhiggins4576 This is the dumbest comment I’ve seen in a while. You honestly should delete it asap
@@kiwiauldphartwhich world record?
So much drama...meanwhile others like Nuguse & Wightman just keep their heads down & get on with their prep.
They also don't win
@@veganpotterthevegannot yet
@@jonahmays yeah, you can say that about me and you too🤡
what hurts friend?
You meant to say Nordas and Wightman
We got a Beef Nostradamus? Good. And an injury 🤕?
People think running is for kids until they have to run. Running beats us all down.
I hope Jacob recovers 🙏 and Kerr is well.
As I recall, Coe wasn't even considered a 1500m runner at the time, he was thought of as an 800m specialist. Cram & Ovett were considered the 1500m specialists.
Jakob will win, unless he is injured.
Also he would have to focus on the 15. I think he could have won worlds if he did not try to double
Idk if that’s for sure, what happened the last 2 years? People get too caught up in someone’s PR. An Olympic final isn’t abt your PR it’s abt who can handle pressure and be the smartest
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A reply to those who regard Jacob as arrogant. A year ago, when the Cursa Dels Nassos race was held in Barcelona and Jakob had to start 5km, my young runner was hoping to get a picture with Jakob. Then at one point Robert (my runner) called out - Jakob is coming. I immediately called out to Jakob - can we have a picture with this young man? The guard was already pushing us aside, but Jakob pushed the guard aside and came to Robert! The boy has an excellent picture in Barcelona at night with Jakob. Where is the arrogance? It is very foolish to express an opinion about a person based on gossip and the imaginations of various journalists. Real life is completely different!
Jakob ingebrigtsen goat
And Josh Kerr ran with The Athlete Special and he was very kind and polite to Spencer Brown, yet people still trash him, so what's your point.
Kerr: He needs to be humbled
Jakob response: yap yap yap yap
I can't wait to see how the Americans perform this year - Neguse, Hocker, Young, Sahlman, Nur, Kessler and Teare. Am I missing anyone?
I mean that’s a good list obviously starting with Nuguse but if you’re putting Sahlman in there you have to include at least another unmentioned 10-15 guys atm.
Engels
@@ccbgaming6994 How likely will any of those 10-15 guys be able run faster than a 3:50 mile this year? List them.
@@joshaebischer Do you think Engels can break 3:50 in the mile?
@danieltikusis5239 No one said anything about breaking 3:50, or any mark at all, we’re talking about the Olympics trials.
It’s common knowledge that when a champion has to cut back on training, there’s a strong possibility of achieving a personal best! Parker Valby cross trains extensively.
You don't mention Peter Snell who won 1960 gold in 800 meters and doubled up with 800 and 1500 gold in 1964. In a shortish career, Snell dominated middle distance and on today's tracks, with todays shoe technology, would more than likely be up there with Jacob. Both incredible phenomena in the middle distance and generational standouts.
Love watching Jacob as I loved watching Snell, powerful acceleration and finish.
Get well Jacob and nail it these Olympics.
He's talking about just 1500m as 800m is another animal.
I think in your final question you should really put Katir I’ve watched multiple races where he is the only runner who can almost have a chance at beating Jakob in a kick. Just my opinion though but I think he’s an underdog for sure!
It's not looking good for Jakob this year. He's barely ran in four months, has missed two altitude camps and is still not over this achilles injury 😢
Its good hes voming back
Nuguse with the 3:43.97 mile is insane. The world record is 3:43.13
Is just comparing times enough to predict the outcome of a championship race? In Paris you have no pacers and everyone has to go a few extra meters because you can’t always stay on the inner lane. Having to run 10m more is probably unavoidable (half a lane width on average), and it adds approx. 2 seconds (3:27 to 3:29)? Are Kerr and Wightman just focusing more on the medal than on the record? In any case, it will be an exciting race!
No matter what the outcome in Paris Jacob has already won a Olympic gold no one can take that away from him
It’s going to be rough final 400 meters someone may very well fall due to The heat of the competition
nice commentary/photage/topics as usual... That's a good title of the video too, it increases intrigue...
Josh talking about a rivalry is pretty strange.
What rivalry?
He won one important race, a very important one for sure! But still just the one. That’s not a rivalry, that a lucky break.
How is a 3:29 1500 lucky? By that logic Jakobs 3:27 is a lucky break too, since he hasn't gotten another 3:27 since.
Glad to Jakobs focus is clear. Trash talk is cheap. I know we are talking 1500m here but when mentioning the greatest back to back middle distance gold medal athletes, dont forget Kiwi Peter Snell's 800m Olympic Gold medal in Rome 1960 and 800m plus 1500m Golds in Tokyo 1964. Back to back 800m with an added 1500m kicker.
BIG YAWN! 😴 How many times are you going to recycle this Jakob v Josh story?
With regard to Paris 2024, how about the Dutch teenager who posted some sensational times last year? The Olympic track races aren't typically won in world record times, so he has as good shot as everyone else if he gets through the heats and has a good run in the finals.
Niels Laros. He's definitely there in the game for one of the top places
Why watch the video if you are so bored with it?
Is there enough places in the Olympic final for all these possible gold medalists?! You didn't even mention Jake Wightman or that rising young Dutch athlete Niels Laros (still only 18 - certain to be an improving athlete).
Nate Crail (8 comments down: Stop making this a story. There is no "rivalry" between Kerr and Jakob. A singular win against 10+ losses isn't much of a rivalry... Furthermore, Jakob has the 1500m European Record while the Kerr doesn't even have the British record... YAWN.) hit the nail on the head. And don't forget Kerr was promptly outkicked by Nuguse in Kerr's very next Diamond League race in Zurich following the WC in Budapest.
Kerr says he wants his competitors to say Kerr was the best runner "today" - his "today" sit & kick yawner in the 2023 WC will be a distant, waning memory down the road, while Ingebrigtsen's 2023 season with his 2-mile & 2K WRs (beating Komen's 2-mile WR by 4-secs was unbelievable), his near WR in the mile @ the Pre Classic in September, his ER in the 1500 and 3K, and his 2nd 5K WC will never be forgotten. Ingebrigtsen may have spoiled it for distance running fans with his season last summer - I'm at the point now that if the race isn't designed from the beginning to go for an area, natl, or world record, I don't even want to watch it.
If anyone doubts Ingebrigtsen's grit & kick @ the end of a race, rewatch the end of the WC 5K (Katir had 3m on him with 75m to go) and the last lap of the 3K @ the Pre Classic (Ingebrigtsen's & indoor mile world record holder Kejelcha's 300m duel to the end).
I don't know if Ingebrigtsen will be able to recover in time from his current injury to win his 2nd Olympic gold this year. Unless he can quickly recover and the rest actually does him more good than harm, it appears Nuguse, Katir, and Kipsang will likely be in the mix.
The crazy thing about Seb Coe being the only runner to win the Olympic 1500m title twice is that he was a better 800m runner and he never won that at the Olympics. He wasn't even the best 1500m runner from the UK for most of his career. In 1980 most people assumed Coe would win the 800m and Ovett would win the 1500m and in 84, Coe the 800m and Cram the 1500m. It really goes to show that anything can happen on race day.
Coe ran a terrible tactical 800m race in 1980 and Joachim Cruz was unbeatable in 84. Coe's finishing speed in the 1500m was something else and once he got away there was no catching him, Ovett should never have let him open up such a gap in the 1500m as Coe could tend to tighten up if challenged in the home straight.
Jacob has become like Tiger Woods in dominance. We have to guess whether he will win, or someone in the field will win.
There isn’t one specific runner who we can state as his rival.
We have to name several people who could get him on the given day.
With Tiger is was always, “Will it be Tiger, or the field?”
It was never, “Will it be Tiger or Phil.”
Their rivalry feels so strange to me. Runners are usually so humble, polite, and supportive. The least toxic people I know. Jakob seems to be meeting those expectations I have for our sport, while Kerr is not.
Tbh, I think Josh is playing it up for the camera. The rival is a good think because it will help boost engagement in the sport. And while Jakob is being more reserved, I would say his fans are not. Look at any post about Josh or Jake, and most of the comments will just be Jakob fans going on about how Jacob would have done better.
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Jakob Ingebrigtsen will retain his Gold medal Nuguse silver and Bronze open Between ANY 3 OF THE SPANISH ATHLETES Azzedine Habz from France and obviously NORDÅS.
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Young Dutch athlete Niels Laros , British Athlete Neil Gourley, Josh Kerr who wont medal
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I believe Big mouth Josh Kerr will run at New Balance indoor on 4 Match in Boston
Both Ker and Jacob are narcissists. Narcissists don’t like other narcissists. But I love to watch both of them race. So happy they both exist. I do think if Jacob is injured the race could go to Ker, Nuguse, Katir or a lot of other names. Will be fun to watch. If Jacob is not in form at least Kipsang won’t be afraid to take it out fast.
Funny how Jakob is focused on being his best self and winning, where as Kerr is focused on Jakob
Coe didn't "take down Jurgen Straub" in 1980 olympics despite what the records show, he took down his great British rival Steve Ovett who eased up once he realized Coe was not being caught, Ovett didn't bother pushing in the final few strides and let Straub have silver, he crossed the line with a wry smile on his face.
Where is the link to the article?
I guess and i hope that Ingebrigtsen is going to win... I hate trashtalking athletes, in my opinion it is bad sportsmanship and the funny part is:
Most of the time it motivates their opponents instead of influence them in a bad way, it is "dumb".
If Jacob is healthy , he will Win ! Jared Naguise will Win if Jacob can't get healthy soon enough . And I think if Cole Hocker is healthy he can sneak in for a Gold /Silver or Bronze medal
nah Hocker isn't better than Kerr, Katir, etc.
@@NateCrail I think if Cole Hocker he's healthy and improves this year , he's got the finishing kick to place in the top 3 .... Kerr won't even finish in the top 3
so pleased they caught Katir.... hate drug cheats.. I thought Kerr's comments were fine and I also thought Jakob's reply was super cool too - both were super accurate..... With the injury you have to go with Kerr for the Gold (especially after his 2M WR) - but Cole Hocker is so fast in the last 200m but can he run off a super fast pace?
Yared Nuguse will win Olympic 1500m in 2024 if he doesn't get injured,he is in great 5000m shape for indoor season
Only the press is calling this a rivalry. The press is trying to blow this up. Jakob isn't giving much thought at all to Kerr who beat him when he was ill and has rarely ever beat him before. The person Kerr is really disrespecting is Yared Nuguse who is way better than Kerr. Jakob also won two gold medals at Worlds and I don't why people keep treating this 5,000 meters achievement like it was chopped liver!
Oh yeah, Yared Nuguse is incredible, and not only that, but he is has an amazing personality, similar to Jake Weightman (is that how you spell his last name?). Doesn't Yared have like a 12:47 5k or something like that?
Predicting it right now, Yared Nuguse wins it.
I second that
😂
Taking into account the improvement in racing shoes you have to say that Coe still holds the fastest time run to win an Olympic 1500m.
So far it seems Kerr is trying to make a rivalry out of one "lucky" win in an admittedly important race. Stay focused on yourself dude, if you feel you have to psyche someone out to beat them, imo opinion youve already lost and man will the fall be a great one if you cant walk the walk afterwards heh
Guessing uve never followed track and field before in ur life bless u! Maybe research and then comment lol
What was lucky about it? It’s mind games
Tell that to the England cricket team. All that arrogant bluster and big talk and the Aussies just rolled up and made fools of them in the first two Tests.
How was that a lucky win. Kerr was better than Jacob on that day of the final and that’s all that matters cuz he got the gold and Jacob got silver. There is no luck, he just simply won
Ingebrigtsen fans are way more disrespectful than Josh Kerr has ever been.
How on earth are you calling 3.29 1,500m World Championship final win "lucky".
Am I the only one that has noticed that Jakob is the first world champion with a longer torso than legs? Usually runners are mostly legs, but he's an anomaly. No other comment, just thought that was weird.
I has a little brother who was very talkative and gregarious. Jacob is the little brother!
One other guy no one should pretermit is that mustachioed Brit George Mills - the guy has strength and speed.
Ingebrigtsen should be the favorite, especially if he can get a good race or two before the Olympics. Kerr should be the 2nd favorite. Kerr has been running very well. But if you add up everyone else, I think it's more likely that someone else steps up and takes the gold.
Is there a betting market for the 1500m Olympic Final?
Jakob Ingebrigtsen will win the gold medal in Paris 2024!🏃🏻♂️🙏
There has never been any beef, It's just Kerr who doesn't like certain things Jakob has said. Jakob couldn't care less.
Glad to see Jakob plans to run in Monaco.
maybe he does it for clickbait and audience capture purposes, but Josh Kerr sounds quite petty, honestly. I'm Team Yared, but respect the superhuman talent and drive that is Jakob Ingebrigtsen
Josh Kerr and Jake Wightman caused upsets and i think Jakob has proved he is very beatable when he isnt being towed along by pacemakers.
You do say some ill-judged things. '....shows a very strong and unchallenged Ingebrigtsen...over the previous 3 years' Are you serious...unchallenged? There have been 3 world-wide titles over 1500m on offer in the last 3 years but Ingebritgsen has won just one of them..the exact same number as Kerr and Wightman. I assume you knew this so why on earth say he is 'unchallenged? I doubt anyone would rank Jakob as anything other than no.1 but his main strength is running fast over the distance with pacemakers in place with the specific objective of helping him to do so. In championship races, pacemakers are not allowed, so he has to compete 'normally' and this shows him not to be the only one capable of running very fast and also that he is not the fastest finisher. Keep it real please. I love watching Jakob compete, he is very good for the sport but so is Josh and his trash-talk which is reminiscent of boxing and adds excitement. You idolising one individual detracts from how genuinely competitive this event is and the fact there are a minimum of 6 genuine strong contenders for Paris...Ingebrigtsen, Kerr, Wightman, Nuguse, Laros and Nordas and that is without mentioning any Africans at all. Would you like a bet with me over who will win in Paris?
Jacob isn’t injured. He uses it to make his opponents comfortable..
Seb Coe was awesome and probably would have won in 1980 and 1984. But, those were the boycott Olympics.
I don't understand this comment. He competed in both!
@@deeperanddeeper he did compete in both. In each of those Olympics half the world didn't compete. United States boycotted 1980 and USSR boycotted 1984. Some good athletes did not attend.
@@donshields2379 I know...I am old enough to remember both very well. Given this, your first comment doesn't seem to make sense.
@@deeperanddeeper well, he won both. And even if all the nations represented he probably still have won. Just the odds go down with more higher caliber athletes.
@@donshields2379 Okay, I get your thought now. Excuse me for being slow.
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Remember when British runners were gentlemen?
Maybe check your facts before saying that
Sniping has always been the British way. Just ask the cricket team.
Jake Wightman is quiet and gentle, Josh Kerr is cocky and outspoken.
Both are excellent World Champions.
@@josephgonzalez_ which is exactly wat Jacob did to kerr funnily enuf 🤣
Same could be said with Noregion athletes. (By the way I don't know if that's spelt right, Noregion?)
So he has fallen out with his father Gjert and asked the police to prosecute him? It's like the drummer in Whiplash asking the police to investigate after winning the jazz awards. This injury is no coincidence IMHO.
Seb Coe is the man
Nah; he's a horrid right wing Tory off the track.
Greatest of fully drugged era
Where is the link?
Narve is low key my favorite to win.
Josh Kerr is right. Jakob’s ego shows and it was great to see him fall from 1st.
Elliptical or treadmill?
Jakob is not seeing this stuff. He has no gripe with anyone.
4:01 those shorts 😎
I love both Jakob and Kerr, but the latter is trying to maximize its latest win in the WC. Jakob right now, in relation to WC titles, is like El Guerrouj in the 2004 Olympic final. But for the time being, the Olympics, I guess that if Jakob is 100% fit, he will win. The defeat against Wightman I guess it was due to over confidence of Jakob, but I have the idea that he lost to Kerr in 2023 because he was not 100% fit. 2023 season for Jakob was extremely demanding and with a good set of results, so it's natural he became tired at the end. But the quality is there, let's see how it's fitness in the following months unfolds, and also if Kerr manages to work as hard as he trash talks...
Love Jakob but he lost because they have an extra gear.
Read the truth before talking shit you walky
My money is on Nordas
Humility obviously isn't Kerr's strong card... there are so many great athletes that could end up out-performing Kerr. I have never been a fan of arrogance....
Kerr is just pushing Jakob for better performance it's not easy to lose three times for Edinburgh track club athletes and be remembered as greatest of all-time.
It's not good that he's got a foot injury. He might want to sit out the indoor season.
he will
TBH I’d rather they all stopped with the trash talking and let their results do the talking.
They know what they’re doing. When they do toe the line together the little bit of drama will make the race that much better. It’s going to be a great race for sure!
Jakob will destroy everyone. Mark my words.
Your stupid. What happened the last 2 years. Jacob is so overhyped it’s insane
Bro Kerr is a joke compared to Jakob.
Jakob set WR before the 1500 world finals
Jakob also ran & won 5000m at World Champs
Jakob ran the second fastest 1 mile and 3000 right after, AND within 24 hrs from each other
Kerr couldn’t pull half of that
Hope this isn’t another Galen rupp story..
Funny people acting like jakob was not running 1mile and 5k in the same competition.
Everyone talks about Jakob having the pressure on him but if kerr doesn't win after all his yapping he'll look real goofy
Jakob ingebriksen is going to win I noe it He is a viking and Vikings Are strong🥇
Jakob is a very mature, talented athlete who gets on with doing what he has to do to be the great athlete he is. Josh and the rest sound like bitchy school girls in the playground.
this dude uses jakob ingebrigtsen like gothamchess uses magnus carlsen
Hm I lke the linke to the article....
It's in the description now! Also here - www.nrk.no/sport/jakob-ingebrigtsen-apner-opp-om-motgang-og-_selvpining_-_-avslorer-ol-planen-1.16733803
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Prediction: Neil Gourley outkicks Jakob in the last 200m to become third Brit in a row to take gold.
Kerr does diet better than Ingebrigtsen, and that may very well give him the gold.
I would remind the WR holder about my victory over them every chance I had. 🤷♂️
my guess is Yared Nuguse born in usa to ethopian parents
I want Jakob to win, because others will try and use teamed- up tactics, but I don't think he will tbh. i mean i want kerr cause im birtish, say what
I wish Asbel kiprop was there to teach this Norwegian a good lesson,
Asbel Kiprop respects Jakob much more than you think
Jacob 12 Wins , Josh Kerr 1 Win
Jacob will win!
While the two favorites focus on each other, I predict a sleeper will sneak the w
Kerr is not a favorite
@@itzStrFtw Sorry to burst your Jakob fanboy bubble, but Josh Kerr ran a 8 minute flat 2 mile indoor and won the 3k indoor race a couple days after the 2 mile.
Chime in however is a PT or knows better, but I could have sworn that an elliptical is NOT the type of machine you want to use for an Achilles injury. I've been told to avoid elliptical when dealing with Achilles tendinopathy.
The other Norwegian doesn't have a chance to Win Olympic Gold
I think the young Norwegian could be a surprise packet.
You can scratch Katir off this list
wasnt jakob sick when kerr beat him? kerr is making himself look petty and foolish. we get it guy, you are trying to shake up the unshakeable ingebrigsten.
Unshakable? Bro lost the last 2 years when it mattered most
Ingebrigtsen's ability to be sick immediately after a 1,500m semi final and immediately before a 5,000m heat every time he loses to a Brit, is extraordinary.
Yared Nuguse will win gold.
Laros for the W
Marry me, Jennay.
Neither Jakob or Kerr will win the 1500m final.
Scottish drugs just stronger when it matters
Rivalry?? Lol dont you need to have had more then one W in 10+ races over Jakob to call it a Rivalry?
Not when you out kicked someone to get the world gold metal
@@solomonhiggins4576 lol its one race