Mr Lucas describes himself as an "immigrant", as if that gives him special status and a particular right to comment on British affairs. Being an immigrant does give you a particular perspective on a country that native people don't have, but suggesting policies and courses of actions requires a much deeper understanding and familiarity with the culture which can only be gained with time and study. Mr. Lucas, from the perspective of his own political viewpoint, is in a position of extreme privilege, being an academic, white and male. In the power hierarchy, these things more than cancel out his status as an immigrant.
Joe Cox would not “have stood up for all of us” come the referendum. By definition she would have stood for the minority who voted to remain. Also let’s examine this fallacy that the EU was responsible for the ethnic diversity that exists in Britain, not without tension, but largely so nonetheless and far better than most other countries around the world (and I have lived and worked in a few both within and without Europe). Firstly you have been here for 30 years. The EU did not exist at that time and there was no free movement of people. The reason you found a country where the diverse ethnic groups generally got along was because they came from the Commonwealth not from Europe. They came here to work and be part of a country whose culture was attractive to them. The EU had zero to do with it. We learned to get integrate before the EU was even a thing. In fact if anything, tension has increased since those days precisely because we have lost control of immigration and the Blair policy of multi culturalism encouraged the ethnic communities to keep to themselves rather than integrate. Then we have the absurd fallacy of how the EU has somehow prevented WWIII. The Cold War was between the NATO block and the Soviet Union. Nothing to do with the trading block which was the EEC for decades before it morphed into the EU 4 years after the wall came down! Are you really suggesting that in the teeth of the Cold War, had the EEC failed then the countries of Western Europe would have turned on each other? A tenuous argument at best. As things turned out, the leave result was due to the swing voters amongst the brits, that tiny minority who were genuinely ready to vote based on rational arguments. They were not swung by promises of massive rebates for the NHS or fear of a tide of foreign people. They voted to leave because the remain campaign was largely a load of rhetorical and emotive assertions as exemplified in this video, that just enough people found deeply unconvincing. At the beginning the remainders were ahead, easily. But you lost the referendum because your approach of guilting people into voting remain was rejected by those who truly cast their vote based on the merits of the arguments before them.
Decency? Like that metered out to the Greek people. The race argument is bogus as our eu membership has/had a bias towards the white continent of Europe over many non whites from the commonwealth countries.
Mr Lucas describes himself as an "immigrant", as if that gives him special status and a particular right to comment on British affairs. Being an immigrant does give you a particular perspective on a country that native people don't have, but suggesting policies and courses of actions requires a much deeper understanding and familiarity with the culture which can only be gained with time and study.
Mr. Lucas, from the perspective of his own political viewpoint, is in a position of extreme privilege, being an academic, white and male. In the power hierarchy, these things more than cancel out his status as an immigrant.
Joe Cox would not “have stood up for all of us” come the referendum. By definition she would have stood for the minority who voted to remain.
Also let’s examine this fallacy that the EU was responsible for the ethnic diversity that exists in Britain, not without tension, but largely so nonetheless and far better than most other countries around the world (and I have lived and worked in a few both within and without Europe). Firstly you have been here for 30 years. The EU did not exist at that time and there was no free movement of people. The reason you found a country where the diverse ethnic groups generally got along was because they came from the Commonwealth not from Europe. They came here to work and be part of a country whose culture was attractive to them. The EU had zero to do with it. We learned to get integrate before the EU was even a thing. In fact if anything, tension has increased since those days precisely because we have lost control of immigration and the Blair policy of multi culturalism encouraged the ethnic communities to keep to themselves rather than integrate.
Then we have the absurd fallacy of how the EU has somehow prevented WWIII. The Cold War was between the NATO block and the Soviet Union. Nothing to do with the trading block which was the EEC for decades before it morphed into the EU 4 years after the wall came down! Are you really suggesting that in the teeth of the Cold War, had the EEC failed then the countries of Western Europe would have turned on each other? A tenuous argument at best.
As things turned out, the leave result was due to the swing voters amongst the brits, that tiny minority who were genuinely ready to vote based on rational arguments. They were not swung by promises of massive rebates for the NHS or fear of a tide of foreign people. They voted to leave because the remain campaign was largely a load of rhetorical and emotive assertions as exemplified in this video, that just enough people found deeply unconvincing.
At the beginning the remainders were ahead, easily. But you lost the referendum because your approach of guilting people into voting remain was rejected by those who truly cast their vote based on the merits of the arguments before them.
You don't need to be a member of the EU to work with your neighbours to fix problems.
Decency? Like that metered out to the Greek people. The race argument is bogus as our eu membership has/had a bias towards the white continent of Europe over many non whites from the commonwealth countries.
Very powerful.