This video has misinformation, there is no problem shooting 7.62 Nato in any .308 Win. chambered rifle: it's the other way around that there is a concern. .308 Win. is loaded to much higher pressures than 7.62 Nato, therefore. 308 Win. should never be fired in a7.62 Nato chambered rifle. The video has it backwards...
You are correct for Nato ammo but be careful when using non Nato like Chinese or Russian ammo. They are dirt cheap in my country but can u trust their quality control. I won't take that chance with my hunting rifles.
It's due to the fact the .308 case wall is thinner the the nato the nato is made thicker so there isn't a case rupture in the action of the machine guns m60 m240 m118a2 etc the pressure is almost the same 1 is measured in psi .308 the other cup 7.62 nato
Whatever floats your boat. Most importantly any rifle has to fit you . I shoot Howa 1500 and Sauer 100 and both rifles are a lot of bang for your buck $
Have you considered the Howa 1500 with a 26 inch barrel that is hammer forged and the receiver is milled from one piece including the locator , the bolt is also made from one piece including handle and a boyd stock?, or any other stock you wish? Cheers Gary
Many of cartridges show in this video are not .308. Also, Ruger does not make the Patriot rifle, Mossberg does, and the Remington 700 is made by Rem Arms, not Ruger. Ruger only bought The Marlin rifle line. Get your facts straight.
On one of them the video up loader could have gotten it goofed up when Remington was the owner of Marlin for a short time, but Ruger only bought Marlin I think ?. I don't know who who is anymore now when I build all of my own rifles then buy the highest quality parts - actions and barrels come from Pac Nor or Douglass barrels. Since the U.S is under communist democrat control, and we see how badly they want to make gun ownership illegal I won't buy any more guns then stay off the commie ATF list of gun owners. The greatest lesson to be learned comes from the Canadians right now how gun registration has become the gun owners' greatest threat to keep their firearms.
@@souschef4489 You are going to get plowed with hate message for the comment. TH-cam video comments is infested with dumb asses that never touched a gun in their life that want to be armchair guns - ammo - hunting experts.
Why is the savage impulse not listed? I understand from many reviews it’s better than the 110 and faster than any ? Other bolt action just curious as I’m left handed and limited on left hand options
The Ruger Hawkeye is the most underrated rifle made. Watch any video with Alaska residents hunting and you will see a stainless Ruger Hawkeye/M77. They are DEPENDABLE, accurate well built and nice looking rifles with controlled round feed. Oh ya Made in the U.S.A. Should have been at the top of your list.
Yes, you left out the #1 rifle, the one that the XBolt is designed after; The most accurate rifle with the best machined barrel comercially offered without a custom build, the BERGARA PRO!
Great clip. I bought Mossberg Patriot and have done everything to get it to group with any ammo. It's just terrible. Sorry to say for this great looking fire arm.
Bergara b14 series hunter, ridge, wilderness ride, hmr etc. Moa guarantee and the definition of quality. The only guns in this video that are close are the Tikka and weatherby. And yall chose a weatherby that's is not ideal for hunting. The Tikka is accurate but it being 6 lbs and the stock design. You get twice the felt recoil. Might not be that bad in 308 but that is pushing it for alot of shooters. No all shoot as much as you and alot will develope a flinch.
How does the case spin with the bullet when flying in air? Also you can shoot 7.62x51 in a .308 not Vice verse, also the round was created to function in an automatic with a shorter stroke than a 30-06.
There missing sako, beretta, benelli, cz, mauser, sauer etc european brands witch beat all of those except tikka. And in finland 308 is most common caliber it suite all hunting to black grouse to bear and moose
The best rifle isn't the cheapest. I like some of your choices but there are way better choices in my opinion like the sig cross, 2020 waypoint, Benelli lupo, Christensen arms, sako, proof research, gunwerks, Daniel defense just to name a few.
I know this is a 308 video but two better cartridges on the 308 cases are the 338 Federal and the time tested 358 win both for small hunting cartridges are real killers on deer and larger game when used to the effective range the cartridges are used for.
@@cleetus8952 What do you mean the 308 is superior for reliability, all modern guns are pretty fool proof and a bolt action rifle of today nothing goes wrong with then in all cartridges. I am seeing prices for 308 the same or higher than large magnum cartridges and 3 types of hunting 308 selling at Cabala's in Tigard Oregon are $69 a box of 20 cartridges. The rest of the 308 ammo is selling between $25 and $40 a box of 20. The most expensive in Nosler 6.5-284 Norma at $120 a box of 20 and I have this cartridge in my AR 10 I reload for this.
I can tell from the first 30 seconds of the video that they a showing 6.5 cm bullets most of the time. It is at or the Remington 260 in most of the video. The throat angle of the shell is to much.
Sadly, most of these American channels tend to just promote American rifles, when there are so many other rifles to choose from as well. Glad Tikka is on there, but you have Mauser, Bergara, Sako, Sauer, Blaser and so many other brands that offer high quality hunting rifles in .308. I get that the American market is loaded with American guns, however, it wouldn't be a bad idea to also include non-Americans brands to a larger degree. And even better - to divide the list and present guns in a budget, mid-range and high-end spectrum.
Pitiful review! You've got to be kidding right? Where's Bergara & Howa? Both of these are in the same price range and twice the rifle as most on your list. This looks like a review of rifles by what company donated the most money. With the exception of maybe the Vanguard and Browning
Tikka is the best rifle on your list. Ruger is accurate, but the stock is junk and you WILL have feeding problems and a scratchy bolt. Howa should be on this list., I bought a top of the line TX3 light with stainless fluted barrel and muzzle brake and Cerracote for $1,200
Firing 7.62 x 51 (7.62 NATO) in 308 Win chambered rifle - OK. Firing 308 Win in 7.62 x 51 (7.62 NATO) chambered rifle - not OK. 308 Win is more powerful than 7.62 NATO. Firing 5.56 x 45 (5.56 NATO) in 223 Rem chambered rifle - not OK. Firing 223 Rem in 5.56 x 45 (5.56 NATO) chambered rifle - OK. 223 Rem is less powerful than 5.56 NATO Firing 5.56 x 45 (5.56 NATO) in 223 Wylde chambered rifle - OK. Here you have it.
Do NOT waste your money on a Patriot. You can expect groups of 4 to 5 inches at 100 yards. They may be cheap, but they just don’t shoot. My experience is of course anecdotal, however I would encourage anyone who questions the validity of my claims to spend five minutes reading The forums.
I have a savage Arms 110 scout 308 and I love it and it didn’t break my bank account either and I have a savage arms stealth ba 308 that beast isn’t for hunting though.
This is a weird video. You're talking about the Mossberg Patriot and then you start talking about the Ruger and there's no start and stop and there's no price point that it lists for the Mossberg Patriot. What gives??
Still a great pump gun even though it is mostly plastic, th-cam.com/users/postUgkxh4su9YgU1tWmjikirWcKJbjsFLEU62Bc but with care it will last a long time. It would be neat if Crosman would make a commemorative version of this with real wood stock, but of course it would weigh more and cost more, but hey, it would be cool. The included scope is more of a toy, but it does work for backyard plinking. I prefer to use pellets for greater accuracy, but BBs are just as good for plinking. This is not a Red Ryder folks; fully pumped it is 3 times the power of a Red Ryder and can be dangerous if not handled properly. Be safe out there.
Vid Should have been called half junk guns and a couple decent ones.. savage, tikka, and browning. Good for the price. The rest were complete junk. Maybe toss in the winchester xpr…. Maybe. And honestly, the browning is far out of the category of the rest of these.
This video has misinformation, there is no problem shooting 7.62 Nato in any .308 Win. chambered rifle: it's the other way around that there is a concern. .308 Win. is loaded to much higher pressures than 7.62 Nato, therefore. 308 Win. should never be fired in a7.62 Nato chambered rifle. The video has it backwards...
You are correct for Nato ammo but be careful when using non Nato like Chinese or Russian ammo. They are dirt cheap in my country but can u trust their quality control. I won't take that chance with my hunting rifles.
It's due to the fact the .308 case wall is thinner the the nato the nato is made thicker so there isn't a case rupture in the action of the machine guns m60 m240 m118a2 etc the pressure is almost the same 1 is measured in psi .308 the other cup 7.62 nato
@@vvr881 in my hunting rifles I only shoot hunting ammo.
You are 100% correct!
Shhhhhh thr watching you cant tell that
Tikka T3x Lite adj here. No regrets and seriously accurate even with factory range rounds.
lol the flying bullet @2:10
Anytime someone says the new Remington 700 is better than old ones is crazy, sold my POS 700 and bought a Ruger American which is quite nice
Whatever floats your boat. Most importantly any rifle has to fit you .
I shoot Howa 1500 and Sauer 100 and both rifles are a lot of bang for your buck $
Have you considered the Howa 1500 with a 26 inch barrel that is hammer forged and the receiver is milled from one piece including the locator , the bolt is also made from one piece including handle and a boyd stock?, or any other stock you wish?
Cheers Gary
I have a Browning X Bolt Long Range Max in the 300 wm with Nighforce optics. Very happy with the setup.
I like how the shell casings spiral through the air.
Browning Bar Mk3 DBM, I got of GunBroker in an auction for 1k, less than an inch MOA and 10 round clips, hands down best rifle I ever owned.
I love how many non-308 rounds were shown on screen haha
Got a X-Bolt chambered in 243, GRS stock. It's a tack driver!
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A glaring omission is the Bergara B-14 (HMR and Wilderness Sierra models are less than $1,000 USD).
2:21 why is it showing the entire cartridge and not the bullet, spinning like it’s going downrange?
Many of cartridges show in this video are not .308. Also, Ruger does not make the Patriot rifle, Mossberg does, and the Remington 700 is made by Rem Arms, not Ruger. Ruger only bought The Marlin rifle line. Get your facts straight.
On one of them the video up loader could have gotten it goofed up when Remington was the owner of Marlin for a short time, but Ruger only bought Marlin I think ?.
I don't know who who is anymore now when I build all of my own rifles then buy the highest quality parts - actions and barrels come from Pac Nor or Douglass barrels.
Since the U.S is under communist democrat control, and we see how badly they want to make gun ownership illegal I won't buy any more guns then stay off the commie ATF list of gun owners.
The greatest lesson to be learned comes from the Canadians right now how gun registration has become the gun owners' greatest threat to keep their firearms.
This video is trash 🗑️
@@souschef4489 You are going to get plowed with hate message for the comment.
TH-cam video comments is infested with dumb asses that never touched a gun in their life that want to be armchair guns - ammo - hunting experts.
The video has a robot voice, with the advent o chat gtp wouldn't surprise me that has been commissioned by an av /edit student....
Now the remington is not the best choice for me,,i test some rifle in a year and now take a savage,browning ruger, winchester and some other brand.
How is bergara not on this list?
I have several guns in 308 caliber. My son and daughter both hunt with it too.
Why is the savage impulse not listed? I understand from many reviews it’s better than the 110 and faster than any ? Other bolt action just curious as I’m left handed and limited on left hand options
The Ruger Hawkeye is the most underrated rifle made. Watch any video with Alaska residents hunting and you will see a stainless Ruger Hawkeye/M77. They are DEPENDABLE, accurate well built and nice looking rifles with controlled round feed. Oh ya Made in the U.S.A. Should have been at the top of your list.
Does it accept ar style mags though ?
I bought a Ruger ranch rifle in the bolt/ feed, doesn't work for crap
@@kevtom1686 No, 4 rounds max + chamber.
The M77 Hawkeye is an accurate, dependable, & smooth 30-06 w/ great down-range power! @@fppro1679
Mossberg Patriot at 4:38 and then it is about Ruger?
Where does the Christensen Model-14, .308 Ridgeline stack up? ...since it didn't make your list.
Yes, you left out the #1 rifle, the one that the XBolt is designed after; The most accurate rifle with the best machined barrel comercially offered without a custom build, the BERGARA PRO!
YEP! I have a BERGARA Premier Pro HMR 6.5 Creedmoor that I am very happy with. FREE
Every review on TH-cam has the bergara in the top and it's not on this list. Performs better than most the rifles on this video.
Great clip.
I bought Mossberg Patriot and have done everything to get it to group with any ammo. It's just terrible. Sorry to say for this great looking fire arm.
Try 150 grain ammo. Mine will do horrible with any other weight but with 150 grain ammo it does about 1.5 inch groups at 100 yrds with most brands.
@@gustavotrejo6888 I tried too many. It's just a junk rifle....
Winchester SPA Is the barrel really 39 inches long?
If I didn't build my own rifles, and were forced to pick from this list, the Browning X-Bolt is the only one I would consider.
Why is that?
Alguém tem experiência com CZ Eclipse .308???
My new Savage 110 Precision 0.308 with Eliminator 5 is something you should add to your list if you think it is a “best” list in 308.
Bergara b14 series hunter, ridge, wilderness ride, hmr etc. Moa guarantee and the definition of quality. The only guns in this video that are close are the Tikka and weatherby. And yall chose a weatherby that's is not ideal for hunting. The Tikka is accurate but it being 6 lbs and the stock design. You get twice the felt recoil. Might not be that bad in 308 but that is pushing it for alot of shooters. No all shoot as much as you and alot will develope a flinch.
Amazed that Bergara isn't on here
Hoping to see a Sako with a manlicher wood stock
How does the case spin with the bullet when flying in air? Also you can shoot 7.62x51 in a .308 not Vice verse, also the round was created to function in an automatic with a shorter stroke than a 30-06.
What about the Springfield waypoint?
There are a bunch a video clips showing the 6.5 Creedmoor. Video is misleading
Bergara b14 hmr and Hunter!!!
Very keen to see the Rem 700 re-become the excellent rifle(/brand) it once was..
Do why was?) that rifle very actually for a hunting and varminting yet)
There missing sako, beretta, benelli, cz, mauser, sauer etc european brands witch beat all of those except tikka. And in finland 308 is most common caliber it suite all hunting to black grouse to bear and moose
One of my favorite guns is the cva cascade
Made by Bergara!
Lets try savage which put out 2 that are easily affordable.
I just bought a savage Axis. I haven’t fired it yet but it was very affordable and the reviews were great on it.
And are incedibly accurate
Why do none of these rifles come with open sights? They might want to add a Rigby Highland Stalker.
Tikka T3 in .308 is awesome value
The best rifle isn't the cheapest. I like some of your choices but there are way better choices in my opinion like the sig cross, 2020 waypoint, Benelli lupo, Christensen arms, sako, proof research, gunwerks, Daniel defense just to name a few.
Just bought a fierce carbon rival... which I would choose again over any gun in this video.
For me 30-06 overall
I know this is a 308 video but two better cartridges on the 308 cases are the 338 Federal and the time tested 358 win both for small hunting cartridges are real killers on deer and larger game when used to the effective range the cartridges are used for.
.308 is superior when it comes to availability and price. If/when SHTF i would rather have the mass produced NATO equivalent rounds
@@cleetus8952 What do you mean the 308 is superior for reliability, all modern guns are pretty fool proof and a bolt action rifle of today nothing goes wrong with then in all cartridges.
I am seeing prices for 308 the same or higher than large magnum cartridges and 3 types of hunting 308 selling at Cabala's in Tigard Oregon are $69 a box of 20 cartridges.
The rest of the 308 ammo is selling between $25 and $40 a box of 20.
The most expensive in Nosler 6.5-284 Norma at $120 a box of 20 and I have this cartridge in my AR 10 I reload for this.
@@lurebenson7722 never once mentioned reliability... .308 rounds are indeed cheaper than .338 or .358 when you compare same manufacturers.
@@cleetus8952 Talking out your ass again.
I can tell from the first 30 seconds of the video that they a showing 6.5 cm bullets most of the time. It is at or the Remington 260 in most of the video. The throat angle of the shell is to much.
Sadly, most of these American channels tend to just promote American rifles, when there are so many other rifles to choose from as well. Glad Tikka is on there, but you have Mauser, Bergara, Sako, Sauer, Blaser and so many other brands that offer high quality hunting rifles in .308. I get that the American market is loaded with American guns, however, it wouldn't be a bad idea to also include non-Americans brands to a larger degree.
And even better - to divide the list and present guns in a budget, mid-range and high-end spectrum.
Bergara b14 hmr
So no Howa?
No Bergara?
No Sig?
No CVA?
Seems like your list is missing a number of really good rifles.
Pitiful review! You've got to be kidding right? Where's Bergara & Howa? Both of these are in the same price range and twice the rifle as most on your list. This looks like a review of rifles by what company donated the most money. With the exception of maybe the Vanguard and Browning
You want some cheese 🧀 to go with that whine 💩
The Remington 700 is on the list and the Bergara B-14 isn't? This list isn't worth looking at then.
How many dollars does Browning Egg Bolmag cost?
Tikka is the best rifle on your list. Ruger is accurate, but the stock is junk and you WILL have feeding problems and a scratchy bolt. Howa should be on this list., I bought a top of the line TX3 light with stainless fluted barrel and muzzle brake and Cerracote for $1,200
Firing 7.62 x 51 (7.62 NATO) in 308 Win chambered rifle - OK.
Firing 308 Win in 7.62 x 51 (7.62 NATO) chambered rifle - not OK.
308 Win is more powerful than 7.62 NATO.
Firing 5.56 x 45 (5.56 NATO) in 223 Rem chambered rifle - not OK.
Firing 223 Rem in 5.56 x 45 (5.56 NATO) chambered rifle - OK.
223 Rem is less powerful than 5.56 NATO
Firing 5.56 x 45 (5.56 NATO) in 223 Wylde chambered rifle - OK.
Here you have it.
Howa Super lite in 308 leaves all these others for dead
Do NOT waste your money on a Patriot. You can expect groups of 4 to 5 inches at 100 yards. They may be cheap, but they just don’t shoot. My experience is of course anecdotal, however I would encourage anyone who questions the validity of my claims to spend five minutes reading The forums.
I can attest to that. Could only get 1.5" groups shooting 185gr. Anything lower, 4-5"
@7:42 Can some one get a elevator to that shooter so he can reach height of his scope please
You definitely can load a 7.62 x 51 in a .308 rifle because it's a slightly weaker round. You should not load a .308 round in a 7.62 x 51 rifle
I didn't know Ruger took over Remington
number 6 - the patriot is the worst one on the list ?
machine narration?
Ruger doesn’t make the Patriot. Mossberg does.
I have a savage Arms 110 scout 308 and I love it and it didn’t break my bank account either and I have a savage arms stealth ba 308 that beast isn’t for hunting though.
Seekins Havak Pro
This is a weird video. You're talking about the Mossberg Patriot and then you start talking about the Ruger and there's no start and stop and there's no price point that it lists for the Mossberg Patriot. What gives??
Weatherby vanguard
So much false info here! Good grief!!
The whole Mossberg & Ruger narrative was confusing.
Also, Bergara never made the list ..... seriously???
The lack of CZ makes me doubt your seriousness here.
Agreed CZs are great!
Who decided on this list? And what were the criteria? This was not a good video..
Where's the Bagara
if anyone is actually doing research on 7.62x51 or .308 ammo, DO NOT USE ANY INFORMATION FROM THIS VIDEO.
Where is the Bergaras? Much better rifle.
1 - the best TIKKA T3........everything else is from the evil one
Still a great pump gun even though it is mostly plastic, th-cam.com/users/postUgkxh4su9YgU1tWmjikirWcKJbjsFLEU62Bc but with care it will last a long time. It would be neat if Crosman would make a commemorative version of this with real wood stock, but of course it would weigh more and cost more, but hey, it would be cool. The included scope is more of a toy, but it does work for backyard plinking. I prefer to use pellets for greater accuracy, but BBs are just as good for plinking. This is not a Red Ryder folks; fully pumped it is 3 times the power of a Red Ryder and can be dangerous if not handled properly. Be safe out there.
Why do a video on 308 when you show 350 legend and creedmore and others bullets ya cheap rear-end video compilation.
And yet keeps showing videos loading 6.5 creedmore roinds
7mm08 better in everyway.
Ruger bought marlin not Remington
only US brand rifles, and that are not the best compared to EU brands like Blaser/Mauser/Sauer etc etc
Bergara
Bergara is not on the list.
tikka tres loin devant
Horrible video. Some people have no business talking guns
Perfect for bear hunting🤔
Why buy any of this stuff, ya can't get a tag out west unless you're a millionaire with good luck.
This cheap cramp nobody touches in Europe. The best weapons for hunting are Rigby, Sauer, Mauser, and Blaser.
So much wrong information I don’t even know where to start
My Mossberg 308 shots the best I every had. I have kill a lot of deer's over 200 without any problems at all.
Ruger does not own Remington
Knock off, cheap version of madman reviews…
This video is a complete joke!!!!! LOL 😆
Vid Should have been called half junk guns and a couple decent ones.. savage, tikka, and browning. Good for the price. The rest were complete junk. Maybe toss in the winchester xpr…. Maybe. And honestly, the browning is far out of the category of the rest of these.
CZ would be a better choice than all of these
100-300 yds are you sure about that