The title of this one seems to have been a poor choice. This isn't a video about the Saturn having the best versions of these games. I meant this to be a video about the Saturn having a solid version of multiplatform titles that are worth your time(as the opening monologue described). As in "winning choices" for your library. If this had been a comparison/best version video the entire thing would have been loaded with Playstation/3DO footage in every segment and I would have called it "21 times the Saturn outperformed its Competitors" or something. I mean I blatantly said in a number of segments the Saturn version had weaker textures and transparencies, so how can it be the definitive version? Anyhow, sorry for the title and should I do a part 2, I'll adjust it.
It's funny how The Cynical Internet Of 2022 immediately jumps to Platform War mode. The title didn't give me those vibes at all. I just expected to see some good Saturn versions. And so it was. Thanks.
It's all good. If you actually watch the video the commentary alone would clue you in it wasn't in any way saying these were all the superior versions of these games. The opening monologue point blank said these "look and run comparably well", which shouldn't have been taken as "better", not to mention the rest of the commentary. I only consider a few indisputably superior on Saturn, which I mentioned in that segment(e.g. Mass Destruction).
@@costumeninja1914 I am not certain if you comment refers to what is my opinion based on the title of the video, SLX also skipped the capcom games and other 2d games because obviously Sega Satun would have been the "winning" platform. Sorry to disappoint but I am "old style" and dont have hate as most of the new gen of today as you soon someone have a contrast in opinions. I dont want to start a debate on this but I do think that is better to have a little bit of reasoning before posting comments that might upset other people just by adding a comment to a video. Have a good day.
I swear, you always upload when I need it. Going through a lot lately, trying to keep my mind busy which is tough at night when there isn't much to do. I appreciate you uploading about something I love right when I need it. Love your videos and the Saturn 👍
Both NBA JAM and WWF Wrestlemania had far larger sprites on the Saturn than any other console port and also loaded a lot quicker. Then there's, Mortal Kombat II, a game so bad on PS1, Acclaim dumped it in Japan.
Cool thing about Dead or Alive. The Saturn port was specifically made for the console. When the PS1 port came it was also made specifically for the console and it is not a port of the Saturn one. this is actually rare even today because developers take a console and make that the main port and then just take that one and use it for other consoles not taking advantage of other hardware. This happened a lot to multiplatform games on the Xbox and then the PS3. Powerful consoles that multiplatforms never took advantage of the hardware
Yeah and the 32 bit generation was probably the last generation where the same game could be quite different on the different consoles - with each passing generation the differences between the versions is getting smaller and smaller to the point that now you'd not know what console it was running on unless you were told.
@@jeffb.6642 That's why older games are so much more impressive to me then modern games. Consoles had limitations back then, and developers often had to be really clever in finding ways around those limitations, even getting consoles to pull off things they weren't suppose to be capable of. Consoles today are so powerful that game developers 90% of the time will not be hindered by any console limitations. So modern games may look incredible, but everything is well within the consoles' capabilities. Considering that, I can only be impressed to some extent.
bro I've been watching your channel for four years, around the time I first got a Sega Saturn, and you're still introducing me to games I've never heard of. Cheers
Boy, how great does Alien Trilogy look? I love that they chose to go with a dark, shadow aesthetic versus a "fog" appearance for those undeveloped far-away shots, definitely matches the vibes of the movies. Great choices, SLX 👍
I always will prefer Resident Evil for the Saturn and will forever wish we could have gotten RE2. The Saturn will forever be my favorite console, such great memories
Very interesting video, don't hesitate to make more content about those great multiplatform games on Saturn, it's very informative for people who doesn't know about this fantastic console !
I was scrolling thru the comments to see if anyone else noticed. I loved that game. And I remember this track on loop from getting lost on the first level for so long 😂
Command and Conquer was so much fun on the Saturn. I put a ton of time into it. Great soundtrack too. KILL KILL KILL! NO MERCY! Also I love the "chunkier" character models of Resident Evil on the Saturn vs the Ps1.
Thank you for sharing. Sega Saturn was a great console back in the day, it just mismanaged poorly. It could easily stay in market as long as PS1 or might surpass PS1 for its more advance technology in my opinion. I love both PS1 and Saturn but there are some Sega Saturn games that always stay with me.
From my experience, I'd add Rayman to this list: content-wise, the Saturn version is nearly identical to the well known PS1 version but I think it runs better (even on a PAL Saturn) and controls better. Other changes are different background pictures in some stages and some fun little segways between segments for each stage.
Such a great game. I actually had it on my Atari Jaguar which I used to trade in for credit towards the purchase of my Saturn. That version was also good.
RE was the first Saturn game I played, on a Saturn display at the tabletop game shop I played D&D at when I lived in Texas for a couple years. Wasn't a huge fan of the genre but it was rather impressive to play while waiting for everyone to grab their lunches.
My favorite multi platform releases for the Saturn are Earthworm Jim 2 and Gex, and I proudly own both of them. EWJ2 for Saturn remains this day as my all-time favorite video game. It looks, sounds, and plays better than on the SNES or Genesis, and the fact the PS1 version never made it beyond the PAL Region made me gravitate to owning the Saturn version… Gex, as well, played better on Saturn as opposed to its PS1 counterpart. While the 3DO save feature is no longer present and instead relies on passwords, everything else was better on Saturn, including the loading times and the sound quality of Gex’s trademark quips, and if I’m bored or sleep-deprived, it’s my go-to game. My only regret is that the later 3D sequels (mainly “Enter the Gecko” since the Saturn was discontinued at the time “Deep Cover Gecko” came out…) never made it to the Saturn…
Everything Capcom, everything snk, all the shmups, most of the puzzle games, some of the rpgs that were on the Saturn first but were only localized for the ps1 (grandia, suikoden, ogre battle, etc) and yeah the Saturn was awesome
Great video and some great games showcased there. I have a number of those titles on the Saturn for the reason they were superior to the PS1 version - Street Racer, Mass Destruction, Duke Nukem 3D and DoA for example. Nice theme and would love to see some more similar content.
Very interesting topic. Multiple titles on Saturn is a topic that is not often talked about despite being rather intriguing. There are some titles I prefer playing on the Saturn even though I grew up playing them on the PS1. I really like the Saturn Version of RE 1 more than the Ps1 version. Yes, the graphic looks different and the Transparency effects are worse but it is still a great game. I also think it plays better on the Saturn controller than the ps1 controller. Alien Trilogy is another great game on the Saturn I prefer over the PS1 version. I also like the Saturn version of DOA 1 more than the Ps1 version. I did play DOA 1 until recently though. I did not get into series before DOA 2 on the Dreamcast. After having purchased both the Saturn and the Ps1 Version of DOA 1 I must say that Saturn wins in that case. ps: I would be very happy if there would be part 2 of that series.
Man, what a GREAT video. Truly excellent work! Can't wait for part 2 with Gex, Mega Man X4, Wipeout, Toshinden URA, and maybe a part 3 with Japanese titles like Layer Section II/Rayforce, Metal Slug, Castlevania SOTN, Baroque, Tactics Ogre, Policenauts, Street Fighter Zero 3, KOF 97 and the Marvel vs. series.
I love these types of videos. I can't tell you how many Saturn titles (mainly imports) I've purchased in the last couple years based on your videos and recommendations. Your content and passion has really helped me find my own appreciation for the Saturn more now as an adult, and I thank you for that. Keep up the great work!
I am so happy you had offworld interceptor extreme on this list. I used to rent it for the Saturn almost every weekend if there wasn't anything new to try. Yes I had a small shop that actually rented Saturn games. I still have it physically on ps1 and road rash on ps1. Played that a lot growing up as well. Sometimes just set sound track just play. Enjoyed that games sound alot
Great video! Some of these games I didn't even know about it or had no idea there was a Saturn port. The Saturn versions of some Capcom games actually even got some exclusive content. The Saturn version of Resident Evil actually has _two_ Tyrants to fight at the end and also has some exclusive costumes for the characters. Mega Man 8 includes additional boss fights with Cut Man and Wood Man (as well as a new music track in Tengu Man's stage).
oh ho! Resident evil on the Saturn has be my favorite port the OG game "next the DS version port/remake". It added in so much new content so few people have ever got to play/experience.
I love how your resources/health carry over level to level in Alien Trilogy. Makes everything matter. I beat it on Saturn and got to the end with nothing left. Dropped down and my motion sensor starts pinging all around me. So intense. But I wouldn’t reload a previous save and managed to beat it. Great game!
I think Croc: Legend of the Gobbos would be a solid contender for a part 2. It stands toe to toe with the PS1 version other than the transparencies. Also supports the 3D pad and is a great 3D platformer on a console that's very lacking on that area.
I would love to see Multiplatform winners on Sega Genesis too! in my opinion Sega Genesis was better than Snes in much games like: -Fatal Fury -Fatal Fury 2 -Street Fighter 2 -Super Street Fighter 2 -Earthworm Jim -Mortal Kombat -Mortal Kombat 3 & Ultimate -King of The Monsters 2 -Aladdin -Joe & Mac -Lethal Enforcers and i gonna stop here xD..
Another great list. Another great video. Mass Destruction has a better framerate than the PS1 version, the Saturn RE Battle Mode is cool and unique, and Soviet Strike is also compatible with the mission stick which makes it the best version in my opinion. My contribution to the list is Nascar 98. The Saturn version is excellent with the car models being more accurately proportioned than its PS1 counterpart. The PS1 cars look kinda flat or stretched out. Love the channel. Thanks SLX.
I wonder if the unusual hardware choices of the Saturn were in response to perceived advantages that the SNES had over the Genesis. The SNES had an impressive 3d background layer effect, Mode 7, that the Genesis lacked. The Saturn devotes a huge amount of hardware power to a specialized chip for 3d backgrounds. The PS took a more general purpose approach without a separate background layer enhancement chip.
The Saturn hardware was a mess of ideas. The most likely course the Saturn hardware design took was that Sega wanted a powerhouse 2D console capable of polygon games that could best the likes of the 3DO and the Jaguar, while handling Model 1 home conversions. Sega probably thought Sony was going a very similar route. Then boom, Sega gets wind that Sony's design is far more powerful than they believed. VDP2(the background chip) is then chucked in last minute to "help" Saturn do more convincing 3D environments. There are interviews with some of Sega's hardware engineers but they never go into detail with timing and/or methodology to any real degree.
As for Resident Evil (Baio Hazādo) the detail that sticks out and separates it from PS1 is that player characters (especially Jill Valentine) skin now has a pinkish hue on it. Just this detail makes character models look more natural and lifelike unlike PS1, where they are so pale, giving off a vampiric like complexion on them🎃
From now I prefer to play third party games on the Saturn when the Saturn versions are good, because the Saturn still deserves the love it didn't get from me as a Playstation kid in the 90th. I had to choose one console as a kid, and the Saturn was not even available in most stores here in Germany, more expensive than the Playstation and not known for exciting games.
This impression that the saturn "butchered" game ports from other consoles is mainly due to the fact that we constantly talk about a few examples like Toshinden, Destruction Dernby to illustrate hundreds of other examples. However, in reality, the majority of the ports are similar or else with some differences, in particular at the level of the graphic effects (effect of transparency for example which do not appear as framed when using a composite cable) which do not change absolutely anything on the global aspect of the game, nor on its playability and its interest. The reverse is also true, most ports of the Saturn to other consoles aren't perfect either.
The Saturn often got screwed with multiplats, but as your video shows, it had some decent examples. Tomb Raider, Resident Evil, Street Racer etc all hold up against their PS1 equivalents and I never felt I was missing out on those back in the day (the loss of TR2 hurt at the time though). I remember buying WipeOut 2097 (UK based) at release on Saturn and to my 16 year old eyes at the time, it held up next to the PS1 version my friend had. I did notice the loss of transparency, but randomly I mainly noticed the loss of all the Red Bull branding, lol. Looking back, I immediately notice the lower frame rate compared to the PS1, but it didn't jump out at me back then. One of my favourites.
Going to savor this one when I eventually get the time to watch it SegaLord. I love comparison videos. Unlike today’s consoles I legitimately loved all 3 during this most epic of eras, and it was always fascinating to see which game outperformed the other version(s) and on which console. Great stuff, keep up the great work!
It's interesting that the Saturn does so well with 3DO ports. I wonder if it's because they both use quads to draw 3d instead of triangles like pretty much every other console.
Don't say it like that... this was the beginning of commercial 3D, nobody knew what was best on the long run. Also, quads are the logical choice on a machine with serious hardware sprite drawing capabilities, it's called efficiency.
@@cryptocsguy9282 In the case of the Saturn, it has hardware accelerated functions to draw a piece of texture between four arbitrarily placed corners. Which could very well be a 2D character... or a 3D polygon, if its corners are calculated from something in virtual space by an other, dedicated chip just for that. So by the way the theory that the Saturn was supposed to be a 2D machine is straight out the window. Also, this is the reason the Saturn look lacks the ugly texture distortions of the PS1, the PS1 and its triangle drawing resulted in that. Very noticeable on large walls. Professional modeling by the way uses quads. The problem mostly comes when you want to port over something which's graphics have been done with triangles.
Not sure if you've done it already, but an episode entirely on Lobotomy and how they programmed for the Saturn would be amazing. There was a really good article in the Sega Saturn UK magazine that explored it, those guys were even responsible for the creation of the Game Genie.
The games genie was created by codemasters in the UK in 1990. Lobotomy software was an American studio founded in 1993 by ex NOE employees so I think you got you wires crossed there 🙂
The games genie was created by codemasters in the UK in 1990. Lobotomy software was an American studio founded in 1993 by ex NOE employees so I think you got you wires crossed there 🙂
As someone who always has a tough time settling for a single version of multiplatform games, I thank you for making such an informative video. I'd love to see a part 2 with 2D games, seeing as sadly not every of them were better on the Saturn (eg. Mega Man X3, Jikkyō Oshaberi Parodius and Castlevania Symphony of the Night).
I owned three of them: Road Rash, Solar Eclipse, and Mass Destruction. My favorite would be Solar Eclipse... good music, good story. I kinda of wish they still did those live action videos.
Some honorable mentions: For sports games, NHL All Star Hockey 98, NHL 98, World Wide Soccer 97, World Series Baseball, Frank Thomas' Big Hurt Baseball, NBA Live 98 and NBA Action 98. For a few racing games: Scorcher, Daytona USA Champion Edition, Power Drift and Touge The King Spirits 2. Action Games: Assault Lynos 2, Tomb Raider, Blast Chamber, Elevator Action Earthworm Jim 2. Shooters: Bokan To Ippatsu, Blast Wind, Last Duel, Battle Gerrega, Dezaemon 2, Shinryu, Guardian Force.
I'd love a video of 2D platform exclusives. For the Saturn specifically, but also for every other post 16-bit console. I find those tend to age much better than early polygonal-mush games.
Thank you for these videos. I never had the Saturn growing up I was a NES kid and Atari and Intelivision. I went to the N64. I now own all of the sega consoles and I absolutely love them. The saturn seems to be the hardest for me to find games on that I like better than the Playstation Or N64. Your videos save me a ton of money and time. Thank you.
It was a timed exclusive, came out on the PlayStation a few months after the Saturn. Funny cause growing up I always kid of thought of Lara Croft as playstations mascot
@@djberryhardkore To clarify, the two versions came out the same day in North America, but in Europe, the Saturn version came to market about a month before the PS1 version.
I still stand by Sega being my first choice of console brand, but I do still feel it's important to study each and every game to find out which version is the best. Back in the Saturn days, I was limited to the occasional new game purchase and what was available to rent at Blockbuster. I would've rented Street Racer and Soviet Strike, but my local Blockbuster didn't have them! I rented Doom and Destruction Derby, and I could tell the framerate wasn't quite right. Despite Battle Arena Toshinden turning out better on the PlayStation performance wise, I do still admire the Saturn version for having better character portraits and a story mode. When it comes to games that came out for the PS2, Xbox and Gamecube, I automatically opt for the Gamecube version if it offers Gamecube-GBA connectivity, as is the case with Rayman 3 and Fifa 2004 (for example). If you're picky about how detailed games are, you'd feel most at home playing the Xbox version of The Simpsons Road Rage, but if framerate's what you care the most about, you'd be just as happy with the Gamecube version. I know you said not to worry about Dreamcast ports of PSone games, but I would still have liked the Angry Video Game Nerd to review the Dreamcast version of Tomb Raider Chronicles instead of its PSone counterpart, same with Rerez and The Grinch.
Speaking of ports, one game that would have looked great on the Saturn would have been Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain. To this day I have no idea why Crystal Dymamics didn't brought that game to the Saturn...
Beside 2D fighting games, Dead or Alive, Street Racer and Mass Destruction were the first titles that came up in mind. Glad to see those here. I wonder if Thoshiden Ura can be considered as well (?)
Command and Conquer and Warcraft 2 are still 2 of my favorites to play on my Saturn even today. While not the best way to play today for me they played suprisingly well.
To tell the truth I was totally blown away when I saw Mass Destruction in action for the first time! 😱 oh.....my.....gaaaaawd its in 3d & runs at 60fps? On the Saturn??? No way! You have to be kidding me! But its true afterall! Thats simply astonishing! 💪 NMS Software did the unthinkable with the Saturn version here! Amazing! I'll even tell you a tiny bit of trivia regarding game's composer, Peter Connelly: during the very late 90s he came to work for Core Design, and guess what - its his tunes we can hear in both Tomb Raider 4 & 5: the last revelation & chronicles respectively. 👍 P.S. there was one pretty strange case with initially strictly european produced game, which had been eventually ported over to Saturn, BUT for reasons unknown only for the japanese market. Yup, I'm talking Assault Rigs here. 😉 However whats even more important - that port IS utterly good! 👍
There's an oddball, but still fun game, only for those who really get the hang of how it plays and twitchy controls, Jajamaru: Onigiri Gold, both for PS1 and Saturn, I only knew and played the Saturn as a teen, so when I learned about a PS1 version a few years back, I went and tried it thinking it could be even better, turns out the game is a bit different, I'm not sure which version came first, but control-wise, the Saturn version feels better, there's something off I couldn't get used to in the PS version, but I'll try it more later to see what happens there. Courier Crisis is another with a bad rep due to low reviews, but another fun game once you really learn how it controls, as fast turns require holding the slide button, which I don't believe many knew this, still, the Saturn version is better, probably because this game favors more its quads based design for polygons, there's a comparison video featuring a side-by-side view and it's clearer there, something doesn't exactly look right on the PS, specially if you check the horizon, where there's a strange cropping/glitching in the backgrounds, but PS1 is still fun and plays just as great, and a few touchs make me think the PS version was released a bit later, nothing major, but they're there. Casper is yet another example, the PS1 has loadings when you morph into a another form, which is required often to progress in the game, the Saturn is better, probably because its bigger memory and it's a 2D game throughout, honestly for some reason, I think the 3DO version may be even a bit more polished. Dragon Ball Z: The Legend, both for Saturn and PS1, the Saturn has the advantage here, due to the game design, it uses infinite planes as field and sky, with 2D sprites for the characters, so the game runs smooth, while the PS1 version struggles a bit in spots, I think this game is a port on Sony's console, but still a great game for those that had the machine, like a friend of mine who only knew this version. Grandia, of course as this game was designed with the Saturn in mind. I'm not too sure about Rayman, even being a 2D game, I'm not too knowledgeable to tell if the PS1 is inferior or not, what I know is that each version is not a clone to one another, the Jaguar is plainly unfinished (filler music, sound effects missing and even gameplay lacking mechanics such as areas where sliding is part of the ground and is required to advance in the game, the character just walks in like solid, normal floor), even the PC has its own layouts, the same is true for PS and Saturn versions, still, one of my favorites no matter the platform (except for the Jaguar), but I did play it on the Saturn back then, and it does feel really tight to play, looking great too.
Here's a fun idea for a Sega video topic, if you're not already working on it. ;) What if Fighters Megamix had taken off like Super Smash Bros.? Like, what if FM had somehow gotten so popular, that everybody had to get a Saturn just to play this crazy Sega crossover game? And, since they already had the Saturn, they went ahead and got Virtua Fighter, and Fighting Vipers, and Sonic, and Daytona, and all the other franchises represented, and this revitalized interest in Sega, and Sega lasted as a console manufacturer for several more generations, mainly from everyone having to get a Sega console for the new FM sequel? What characters would Sega have introduced in each subsequent sequel, for the Dreamcast, Dreamcast 2, Dreamcast Portable, Dreamcast You, Dreamscroll? Certainly they would have promoted Shenmue in FM2. But would they have finally put Sonic in the first sequel, or would they save him for FM3, as the last character you unlock in Fantasy Zone Emissary? Maybe this could be the first of a series of Sega What If? videos....
When I think of cross platform games that are good or better on Saturn, I think of Resident Evil. That is also one of the only games in this video that I'm interested in playing at all. There's plenty of multi plat games like arcade ports too, but clearly that's not the criteria here. loved the video!
Thanks man. Now I need to find total eclipse. It's a game I completely forgot about til now. But you kicked the nostalgia bug and I remember renting that as well and having a good time with my friends on the weekends. Just know I was born in 1980 to put the rental period into context
Man I loved Loaded when it came out on the ps1. I'm pretty sure I beat it but it was so long ago that I don't remember. I immediately recognized the music at the beginning of the video. It's a really fun game.
Amazing video... Thank you for bringing light to games I've never even heard of. Everyone makes the Saurn all about the exclusives, and as such I never get to hear about any of the good multiplats it had. Similar with the Wii U.
Funny how when you change content on yt after awhile you stop getting notifications but the only channel that didn't happen to was SegaLordX thought that was pretty awesome.... Love the channel since I was a Genesis nerd 🤓..🤣
The title of this one seems to have been a poor choice. This isn't a video about the Saturn having the best versions of these games. I meant this to be a video about the Saturn having a solid version of multiplatform titles that are worth your time(as the opening monologue described). As in "winning choices" for your library. If this had been a comparison/best version video the entire thing would have been loaded with Playstation/3DO footage in every segment and I would have called it "21 times the Saturn outperformed its Competitors" or something. I mean I blatantly said in a number of segments the Saturn version had weaker textures and transparencies, so how can it be the definitive version? Anyhow, sorry for the title and should I do a part 2, I'll adjust it.
No problem. Most of your picks are good games I agree with.
screw the haters, my guy
It's funny how The Cynical Internet Of 2022 immediately jumps to Platform War mode.
The title didn't give me those vibes at all. I just expected to see some good Saturn versions.
And so it was.
Thanks.
It's all good. If you actually watch the video the commentary alone would clue you in it wasn't in any way saying these were all the superior versions of these games. The opening monologue point blank said these "look and run comparably well", which shouldn't have been taken as "better", not to mention the rest of the commentary. I only consider a few indisputably superior on Saturn, which I mentioned in that segment(e.g. Mass Destruction).
@@costumeninja1914 I am not certain if you comment refers to what is my opinion based on the title of the video, SLX also skipped the capcom games and other 2d games because obviously Sega Satun would have been the "winning" platform. Sorry to disappoint but I am "old style" and dont have hate as most of the new gen of today as you soon someone have a contrast in opinions. I dont want to start a debate on this but I do think that is better to have a little bit of reasoning before posting comments that might upset other people just by adding a comment to a video. Have a good day.
I swear, you always upload when I need it. Going through a lot lately, trying to keep my mind busy which is tough at night when there isn't much to do. I appreciate you uploading about something I love right when I need it. Love your videos and the Saturn 👍
The darkest night always give way to the brightest dawn. Hang in there.
Wishing you peace during this time. You deserve good things in your life (including videos like this 👍). Things always get better with time 🙌
I'm right there with you man. It's okay to not be okay, because eventually we will be okay again. Stay up good sir. Much love.
Hang tight my guy.
Stay strong 👍
Both NBA JAM and WWF Wrestlemania had far larger sprites on the Saturn than any other console port and also loaded a lot quicker.
Then there's, Mortal Kombat II, a game so bad on PS1, Acclaim dumped it in Japan.
Man, the Loaded background music... I remember playing a lot this game with my little brother (we were teenagers on that time)!
I love seeing 3D on the saturn. It’s a nice step up from the ps1 crumpled paper look. And I love DOA too.
DOA on Saturn looks way smoother and has better backgrounds.
Cool thing about Dead or Alive. The Saturn port was specifically made for the console. When the PS1 port came it was also made specifically for the console and it is not a port of the Saturn one. this is actually rare even today because developers take a console and make that the main port and then just take that one and use it for other consoles not taking advantage of other hardware. This happened a lot to multiplatform games on the Xbox and then the PS3. Powerful consoles that multiplatforms never took advantage of the hardware
I always loved the little differences and nuances between the versions
Yeah and the 32 bit generation was probably the last generation where the same game could be quite different on the different consoles - with each passing generation the differences between the versions is getting smaller and smaller to the point that now you'd not know what console it was running on unless you were told.
@@jeffb.6642 That's why older games are so much more impressive to me then modern games. Consoles had limitations back then, and developers often had to be really clever in finding ways around those limitations, even getting consoles to pull off things they weren't suppose to be capable of. Consoles today are so powerful that game developers 90% of the time will not be hindered by any console limitations. So modern games may look incredible, but everything is well within the consoles' capabilities. Considering that, I can only be impressed to some extent.
bro I've been watching your channel for four years, around the time I first got a Sega Saturn, and you're still introducing me to games I've never heard of. Cheers
Boy, how great does Alien Trilogy look? I love that they chose to go with a dark, shadow aesthetic versus a "fog" appearance for those undeveloped far-away shots, definitely matches the vibes of the movies. Great choices, SLX 👍
I always will prefer Resident Evil for the Saturn and will forever wish we could have gotten RE2. The Saturn will forever be my favorite console, such great memories
Very interesting video, don't hesitate to make more content about those great multiplatform games on Saturn, it's very informative for people who doesn't know about this fantastic console !
In a possible part 2 video, please add Grandia ! Saturn version is a total win !
As always thanks for your information. Even though I do not own a saturn I get the chance to learn more about a system that I know little about
My pleasure!
I love that first song in this video. Loaded had great music. I knew about it because of ps1.
I was scrolling thru the comments to see if anyone else noticed. I loved that game. And I remember this track on loop from getting lost on the first level for so long 😂
Command and Conquer was so much fun on the Saturn. I put a ton of time into it. Great soundtrack too. KILL KILL KILL! NO MERCY!
Also I love the "chunkier" character models of Resident Evil on the Saturn vs the Ps1.
Love My Saturn Thank You Sega Lord X Once Again We’ve Seen It All From The Master System To The Dreamcast
Thank you for sharing. Sega Saturn was a great console back in the day, it just mismanaged poorly. It could easily stay in market as long as PS1 or might surpass PS1 for its more advance technology in my opinion. I love both PS1 and Saturn but there are some Sega Saturn games that always stay with me.
From my experience, I'd add Rayman to this list: content-wise, the Saturn version is nearly identical to the well known PS1 version but I think it runs better (even on a PAL Saturn) and controls better. Other changes are different background pictures in some stages and some fun little segways between segments for each stage.
Such a great game. I actually had it on my Atari Jaguar which I used to trade in for credit towards the purchase of my Saturn. That version was also good.
RE was the first Saturn game I played, on a Saturn display at the tabletop game shop I played D&D at when I lived in Texas for a couple years. Wasn't a huge fan of the genre but it was rather impressive to play while waiting for everyone to grab their lunches.
My favorite multi platform releases for the Saturn are Earthworm Jim 2 and Gex, and I proudly own both of them.
EWJ2 for Saturn remains this day as my all-time favorite video game. It looks, sounds, and plays better than on the SNES or Genesis, and the fact the PS1 version never made it beyond the PAL Region made me gravitate to owning the Saturn version…
Gex, as well, played better on Saturn as opposed to its PS1 counterpart. While the 3DO save feature is no longer present and instead relies on passwords, everything else was better on Saturn, including the loading times and the sound quality of Gex’s trademark quips, and if I’m bored or sleep-deprived, it’s my go-to game. My only regret is that the later 3D sequels (mainly “Enter the Gecko” since the Saturn was discontinued at the time “Deep Cover Gecko” came out…) never made it to the Saturn…
Your right James, as I've seen every version of Jim 2. The Saturn was a 2d, and 3d monster. Thanks for reminding me I need to get a copy of that lol.
Finally I got a saturn, what an amazing system
Everything Capcom, everything snk, all the shmups, most of the puzzle games, some of the rpgs that were on the Saturn first but were only localized for the ps1 (grandia, suikoden, ogre battle, etc) and yeah the Saturn was awesome
Great video and some great games showcased there. I have a number of those titles on the Saturn for the reason they were superior to the PS1 version - Street Racer, Mass Destruction, Duke Nukem 3D and DoA for example.
Nice theme and would love to see some more similar content.
Very interesting topic. Multiple titles on Saturn is a topic that is not often talked about despite being rather intriguing. There are some titles I prefer playing on the Saturn even though I grew up playing them on the PS1. I really like the Saturn Version of RE 1 more than the Ps1 version. Yes, the graphic looks different and the Transparency effects are worse but it is still a great game. I also think it plays better on the Saturn controller than the ps1 controller. Alien Trilogy is another great game on the Saturn I prefer over the PS1 version. I also like the Saturn version of DOA 1 more than the Ps1 version. I did play DOA 1 until recently though. I did not get into series before DOA 2 on the Dreamcast. After having purchased both the Saturn and the Ps1 Version of DOA 1 I must say that Saturn wins in that case.
ps: I would be very happy if there would be part 2 of that series.
Man, what a GREAT video. Truly excellent work! Can't wait for part 2 with Gex, Mega Man X4, Wipeout, Toshinden URA, and maybe a part 3 with Japanese titles like Layer Section II/Rayforce, Metal Slug, Castlevania SOTN, Baroque, Tactics Ogre, Policenauts, Street Fighter Zero 3, KOF 97 and the Marvel vs. series.
I love these types of videos. I can't tell you how many Saturn titles (mainly imports) I've purchased in the last couple years based on your videos and recommendations. Your content and passion has really helped me find my own appreciation for the Saturn more now as an adult, and I thank you for that. Keep up the great work!
Loaded was the game that migrated me from 3D0 to PS1.
I am so happy you had offworld interceptor extreme on this list. I used to rent it for the Saturn almost every weekend if there wasn't anything new to try. Yes I had a small shop that actually rented Saturn games. I still have it physically on ps1 and road rash on ps1. Played that a lot growing up as well. Sometimes just set sound track just play. Enjoyed that games sound alot
Great video! Some of these games I didn't even know about it or had no idea there was a Saturn port.
The Saturn versions of some Capcom games actually even got some exclusive content. The Saturn version of Resident Evil actually has _two_ Tyrants to fight at the end and also has some exclusive costumes for the characters. Mega Man 8 includes additional boss fights with Cut Man and Wood Man (as well as a new music track in Tengu Man's stage).
I had most of these games on the Saturn at one time and still have some of them. Loved them all.
oh ho! Resident evil on the Saturn has be my favorite port the OG game "next the DS version port/remake". It added in so much new content so few people have ever got to play/experience.
If you don’t include the remake for GameCube then yes I agree, I like the Saturn port a little more than the ds one
Absolutely love the (pal) saturn version of Wipeout 2097 with the 3d controller.
Ah yes, will definitely make sure to 'import' Wipeout. Somehow never realized it was on the Saturn.
I love how your resources/health carry over level to level in Alien Trilogy.
Makes everything matter.
I beat it on Saturn and got to the end with nothing left.
Dropped down and my motion sensor starts pinging all around me. So intense. But I wouldn’t reload a previous save and managed to beat it.
Great game!
I think Croc: Legend of the Gobbos would be a solid contender for a part 2. It stands toe to toe with the PS1 version other than the transparencies. Also supports the 3D pad and is a great 3D platformer on a console that's very lacking on that area.
I would love to see Multiplatform winners on Sega Genesis too! in my opinion Sega Genesis was better than Snes in much games like:
-Fatal Fury
-Fatal Fury 2
-Street Fighter 2
-Super Street Fighter 2
-Earthworm Jim
-Mortal Kombat
-Mortal Kombat 3 & Ultimate
-King of The Monsters 2
-Aladdin
-Joe & Mac
-Lethal Enforcers
and i gonna stop here xD..
Off world extreme also has uncensored cutscenes on Saturn, for whatever that's worth.
I played the sh%t out of Aliens and Soviet Strike, those games were so cool. Hell yes and please, do one more if you can.
Another great list. Another great video. Mass Destruction has a better framerate than the PS1 version, the Saturn RE Battle Mode is cool and unique, and Soviet Strike is also compatible with the mission stick which makes it the best version in my opinion. My contribution to the list is Nascar 98. The Saturn version is excellent with the car models being more accurately proportioned than its PS1 counterpart. The PS1 cars look kinda flat or stretched out. Love the channel. Thanks SLX.
I wonder if the unusual hardware choices of the Saturn were in response to perceived advantages that the SNES had over the Genesis. The SNES had an impressive 3d background layer effect, Mode 7, that the Genesis lacked. The Saturn devotes a huge amount of hardware power to a specialized chip for 3d backgrounds. The PS took a more general purpose approach without a separate background layer enhancement chip.
The Saturn hardware was a mess of ideas. The most likely course the Saturn hardware design took was that Sega wanted a powerhouse 2D console capable of polygon games that could best the likes of the 3DO and the Jaguar, while handling Model 1 home conversions. Sega probably thought Sony was going a very similar route. Then boom, Sega gets wind that Sony's design is far more powerful than they believed. VDP2(the background chip) is then chucked in last minute to "help" Saturn do more convincing 3D environments. There are interviews with some of Sega's hardware engineers but they never go into detail with timing and/or methodology to any real degree.
As for Resident Evil (Baio Hazādo) the detail that sticks out and separates it from PS1 is that player characters (especially Jill Valentine) skin now has a pinkish hue on it. Just this detail makes character models look more natural and lifelike unlike PS1, where they are so pale, giving off a vampiric like complexion on them🎃
I'd definitely appreciate a follow-up. It's so common to hear people say the Saturn was flat-out inferior to the PSX, so this is a treat to watch.
From now I prefer to play third party games on the Saturn when the Saturn versions are good, because the Saturn still deserves the love it didn't get from me as a Playstation kid in the 90th.
I had to choose one console as a kid, and the Saturn was not even available in most stores here in Germany, more expensive than the Playstation and not known for exciting games.
This impression that the saturn "butchered" game ports from other consoles is mainly due to the fact that we constantly talk about a few examples like Toshinden, Destruction Dernby to illustrate hundreds of other examples. However, in reality, the majority of the ports are similar or else with some differences, in particular at the level of the graphic effects (effect of transparency for example which do not appear as framed when using a composite cable) which do not change absolutely anything on the global aspect of the game, nor on its playability and its interest. The reverse is also true, most ports of the Saturn to other consoles aren't perfect either.
The Saturn often got screwed with multiplats, but as your video shows, it had some decent examples. Tomb Raider, Resident Evil, Street Racer etc all hold up against their PS1 equivalents and I never felt I was missing out on those back in the day (the loss of TR2 hurt at the time though).
I remember buying WipeOut 2097 (UK based) at release on Saturn and to my 16 year old eyes at the time, it held up next to the PS1 version my friend had. I did notice the loss of transparency, but randomly I mainly noticed the loss of all the Red Bull branding, lol. Looking back, I immediately notice the lower frame rate compared to the PS1, but it didn't jump out at me back then. One of my favourites.
Going to savor this one when I eventually get the time to watch it SegaLord. I love comparison videos. Unlike today’s consoles I legitimately loved all 3 during this most epic of eras, and it was always fascinating to see which game outperformed the other version(s) and on which console. Great stuff, keep up the great work!
It's interesting that the Saturn does so well with 3DO ports. I wonder if it's because they both use quads to draw 3d instead of triangles like pretty much every other console.
Don't say it like that... this was the beginning of commercial 3D, nobody knew what was best on the long run. Also, quads are the logical choice on a machine with serious hardware sprite drawing capabilities, it's called efficiency.
@@Gary_Hun why is quads more logical than triangles? All this GPU stuff is confusing 😵😵💫
@@cryptocsguy9282 In the case of the Saturn, it has hardware accelerated functions to draw a piece of texture between four arbitrarily placed corners. Which could very well be a 2D character... or a 3D polygon, if its corners are calculated from something in virtual space by an other, dedicated chip just for that. So by the way the theory that the Saturn was supposed to be a 2D machine is straight out the window. Also, this is the reason the Saturn look lacks the ugly texture distortions of the PS1, the PS1 and its triangle drawing resulted in that. Very noticeable on large walls. Professional modeling by the way uses quads. The problem mostly comes when you want to port over something which's graphics have been done with triangles.
@@cryptocsguy9282 It took playstation 2 polys to render a single image where as Saturn uses 1 quad.
Not sure if you've done it already, but an episode entirely on Lobotomy and how they programmed for the Saturn would be amazing. There was a really good article in the Sega Saturn UK magazine that explored it, those guys were even responsible for the creation of the Game Genie.
The games genie was created by codemasters in the UK in 1990. Lobotomy software was an American studio founded in 1993 by ex NOE employees so I think you got you wires crossed there 🙂
The games genie was created by codemasters in the UK in 1990. Lobotomy software was an American studio founded in 1993 by ex NOE employees so I think you got you wires crossed there 🙂
As someone who always has a tough time settling for a single version of multiplatform games, I thank you for making such an informative video. I'd love to see a part 2 with 2D games, seeing as sadly not every of them were better on the Saturn (eg. Mega Man X3, Jikkyō Oshaberi Parodius and Castlevania Symphony of the Night).
Videos like this make me turn on my Saturn for another gaming session! Thank you.
Sega Saturn had more stable 3d models and didn't suffer from texture warping like PS1.
It makes Saturn a better console by default.
I owned three of them: Road Rash, Solar Eclipse, and Mass Destruction. My favorite would be Solar Eclipse... good music, good story. I kinda of wish they still did those live action videos.
Some honorable mentions: For sports games, NHL All Star Hockey 98, NHL 98, World Wide Soccer 97, World Series Baseball, Frank Thomas' Big Hurt Baseball, NBA Live 98 and NBA Action 98. For a few racing games: Scorcher, Daytona USA Champion Edition, Power Drift and Touge The King Spirits 2. Action Games: Assault Lynos 2, Tomb Raider, Blast Chamber, Elevator Action Earthworm Jim 2. Shooters: Bokan To Ippatsu, Blast Wind, Last Duel, Battle Gerrega, Dezaemon 2, Shinryu, Guardian Force.
I'd love a video of 2D platform exclusives. For the Saturn specifically, but also for every other post 16-bit console. I find those tend to age much better than early polygonal-mush games.
Street Racer looks amazing! OMG.
It's the kind of stuff Sega should have been making themselves.
Dead Or Alive 1 is good but 2 on the Dreamcast was incredible.
Awesome compilation of Games! Great episode SegaLX!
Thank you for these videos. I never had the Saturn growing up I was a NES kid and Atari and Intelivision. I went to the N64. I now own all of the sega consoles and I absolutely love them. The saturn seems to be the hardest for me to find games on that I like better than the Playstation Or N64. Your videos save me a ton of money and time. Thank you.
Already I know
This is gonna be granted fun ep
Thx oh lord
I actually thought Tomb Raider faired well on the Saturn and if I’m not mistaken it was originally developed for the Saturn as well.
It was a timed exclusive, came out on the PlayStation a few months after the Saturn. Funny cause growing up I always kid of thought of Lara Croft as playstations mascot
You're correct
@@djberryhardkore To clarify, the two versions came out the same day in North America, but in Europe, the Saturn version came to market about a month before the PS1 version.
Never thought this theme would give us almost half an hour of a very nice video
I hope the Saturn will get a classic mini!!
All your videos are so good and addictive! Thank you for your work!
My 2 daughters loved playing dead or alive with me. That game was ahead of its time
I still stand by Sega being my first choice of console brand, but I do still feel it's important to study each and every game to find out which version is the best. Back in the Saturn days, I was limited to the occasional new game purchase and what was available to rent at Blockbuster. I would've rented Street Racer and Soviet Strike, but my local Blockbuster didn't have them! I rented Doom and Destruction Derby, and I could tell the framerate wasn't quite right. Despite Battle Arena Toshinden turning out better on the PlayStation performance wise, I do still admire the Saturn version for having better character portraits and a story mode. When it comes to games that came out for the PS2, Xbox and Gamecube, I automatically opt for the Gamecube version if it offers Gamecube-GBA connectivity, as is the case with Rayman 3 and Fifa 2004 (for example). If you're picky about how detailed games are, you'd feel most at home playing the Xbox version of The Simpsons Road Rage, but if framerate's what you care the most about, you'd be just as happy with the Gamecube version. I know you said not to worry about Dreamcast ports of PSone games, but I would still have liked the Angry Video Game Nerd to review the Dreamcast version of Tomb Raider Chronicles instead of its PSone counterpart, same with Rerez and The Grinch.
Speaking of ports, one game that would have looked great on the Saturn would have been Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain. To this day I have no idea why Crystal Dymamics didn't brought that game to the Saturn...
Rumor has it the game was ported and finished for the Saturn. It was never published.
That was one of my favorite games for the PlayStation
Always love an SLX video after work
really impressed by the racing game
Beside 2D fighting games, Dead or Alive, Street Racer and Mass Destruction were the first titles that came up in mind. Glad to see those here. I wonder if Thoshiden Ura can be considered as well (?)
Command and Conquer and Warcraft 2 are still 2 of my favorites to play on my Saturn even today. While not the best way to play today for me they played suprisingly well.
I still play Road Rash and Need For Speed to this day!!!! Another awesome video. Thanx.
13:35 - "It's a good one to look out for if you enjoy regional changes" Love these videos and sentences like that are exactly why.
I’m kinda pissed how much the Saturn could have been. The system had so much potential!
I played the crap out of Alien Trilogy for the Saturn as a kid. My mom was a bargain shopper and picked it up on the cheap from Walmart 👍🏻 thanks mom!
To tell the truth I was totally blown away when I saw Mass Destruction in action for the first time! 😱 oh.....my.....gaaaaawd its in 3d & runs at 60fps? On the Saturn??? No way! You have to be kidding me! But its true afterall! Thats simply astonishing! 💪 NMS Software did the unthinkable with the Saturn version here! Amazing!
I'll even tell you a tiny bit of trivia regarding game's composer, Peter Connelly: during the very late 90s he came to work for Core Design, and guess what - its his tunes we can hear in both Tomb Raider 4 & 5: the last revelation & chronicles respectively. 👍
P.S. there was one pretty strange case with initially strictly european produced game, which had been eventually ported over to Saturn, BUT for reasons unknown only for the japanese market. Yup, I'm talking Assault Rigs here. 😉 However whats even more important - that port IS utterly good! 👍
Random Fact: playing Alien Trilogy without music makes the game feel like a survival horror
That music is pretty good, though.
There's an oddball, but still fun game, only for those who really get the hang of how it plays and twitchy controls, Jajamaru: Onigiri Gold, both for PS1 and Saturn, I only knew and played the Saturn as a teen, so when I learned about a PS1 version a few years back, I went and tried it thinking it could be even better, turns out the game is a bit different, I'm not sure which version came first, but control-wise, the Saturn version feels better, there's something off I couldn't get used to in the PS version, but I'll try it more later to see what happens there.
Courier Crisis is another with a bad rep due to low reviews, but another fun game once you really learn how it controls, as fast turns require holding the slide button, which I don't believe many knew this, still, the Saturn version is better, probably because this game favors more its quads based design for polygons, there's a comparison video featuring a side-by-side view and it's clearer there, something doesn't exactly look right on the PS, specially if you check the horizon, where there's a strange cropping/glitching in the backgrounds, but PS1 is still fun and plays just as great, and a few touchs make me think the PS version was released a bit later, nothing major, but they're there. Casper is yet another example, the PS1 has loadings when you morph into a another form, which is required often to progress in the game, the Saturn is better, probably because its bigger memory and it's a 2D game throughout, honestly for some reason, I think the 3DO version may be even a bit more polished. Dragon Ball Z: The Legend, both for Saturn and PS1, the Saturn has the advantage here, due to the game design, it uses infinite planes as field and sky, with 2D sprites for the characters, so the game runs smooth, while the PS1 version struggles a bit in spots, I think this game is a port on Sony's console, but still a great game for those that had the machine, like a friend of mine who only knew this version. Grandia, of course as this game was designed with the Saturn in mind. I'm not too sure about Rayman, even being a 2D game, I'm not too knowledgeable to tell if the PS1 is inferior or not, what I know is that each version is not a clone to one another, the Jaguar is plainly unfinished (filler music, sound effects missing and even gameplay lacking mechanics such as areas where sliding is part of the ground and is required to advance in the game, the character just walks in like solid, normal floor), even the PC has its own layouts, the same is true for PS and Saturn versions, still, one of my favorites no matter the platform (except for the Jaguar), but I did play it on the Saturn back then, and it does feel really tight to play, looking great too.
You got my like as soon as I saw you have some sports games on here.. I'm glad you give sports games some respect too.
Here's a fun idea for a Sega video topic, if you're not already working on it. ;)
What if Fighters Megamix had taken off like Super Smash Bros.?
Like, what if FM had somehow gotten so popular, that everybody had to get a Saturn just to play this crazy Sega crossover game?
And, since they already had the Saturn, they went ahead and got Virtua Fighter, and Fighting Vipers, and Sonic, and Daytona, and all the other franchises represented, and this revitalized interest in Sega, and Sega lasted as a console manufacturer for several more generations, mainly from everyone having to get a Sega console for the new FM sequel?
What characters would Sega have introduced in each subsequent sequel, for the Dreamcast, Dreamcast 2, Dreamcast Portable, Dreamcast You, Dreamscroll?
Certainly they would have promoted Shenmue in FM2. But would they have finally put Sonic in the first sequel, or would they save him for FM3, as the last character you unlock in Fantasy Zone Emissary?
Maybe this could be the first of a series of Sega What If? videos....
When I think of cross platform games that are good or better on Saturn, I think of Resident Evil. That is also one of the only games in this video that I'm interested in playing at all. There's plenty of multi plat games like arcade ports too, but clearly that's not the criteria here. loved the video!
Thanks man. Now I need to find total eclipse. It's a game I completely forgot about til now. But you kicked the nostalgia bug and I remember renting that as well and having a good time with my friends on the weekends. Just know I was born in 1980 to put the rental period into context
You can pull it out... and play it like a 1st or 3rd person shooter - Sega Lord X 2022
Man I loved Loaded when it came out on the ps1. I'm pretty sure I beat it but it was so long ago that I don't remember. I immediately recognized the music at the beginning of the video. It's a really fun game.
Right? Heard it hundreds of times in a row when I was lost on that first level 😂
Sega Lord always helping hold down the "give the Saturn due credit" fort. Too many ppl just dismiss, always good stuff
Appreciate your content from an disabled TH-camr and love Sega!
Hearing Loaded's ost is so nostalgic... wish they remade it with modern graphics and gameplay in all its gory glory.
Love the Loaded music in the background... I gotta see if that game to Saturn
I loved Andretti racing as a kid.
Yup. It has nothing on the better racers of its day but I really enjoyed the gameplay. Easy to get into and the AI isn't overbearing.
Xenomorphs and Hulkamania running wild on you, BROTHER
Notable mice: Worms 😁 great video dude 😊 will pick up some that you mentioned here 👍👍
Up for a part two !! You made a great job and i learn lot of good stuff here. Keep it up ; 👍
Loaded on Saturn was a favorite of me and my siblings. The soundtrack was fantastic too.
I had the Saturn version of Alien Trilogy and never knew the differences until later. I remember loving it but it's been forever since I played it.
Great vid. A part 2 would be appreciated
Amazing video, congrats bud! 💪
Some of these games graphics were horrible for there time period but the saturn does have some good games. I just bought a Saturn for sonic jam 😂
Amazing video... Thank you for bringing light to games I've never even heard of. Everyone makes the Saurn all about the exclusives, and as such I never get to hear about any of the good multiplats it had. Similar with the Wii U.
Alien Trilogy was one of the first games to annoy the shit out of me with its head-bobbing camera.
I hear you using the music from "loaded" in the beginning of the video.
I heard that track on loop for so long getting lost in that game 😂
Funny how when you change content on yt after awhile you stop getting notifications but the only channel that didn't happen to was SegaLordX thought that was pretty awesome.... Love the channel since I was a Genesis nerd 🤓..🤣