Easiest type of sword fighting to learn for beginners?

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  • @alexanderlindstrom01
    @alexanderlindstrom01 7 ปีที่แล้ว +582

    "If you can fit two hands on your weapon then you're doing pretty well."
    She got it.

    • @theophrastusbombastus8019
      @theophrastusbombastus8019 7 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Instructions unclear, hand ended on the butt.

    • @bobito8997
      @bobito8997 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The video was edited straight after that, I'm guessing due uncontrollable laughter.

  • @storyspren
    @storyspren 7 ปีที่แล้ว +321

    Matt: "We're not insulting the katana..."
    Lucy: "We could, but we're not." xD

  • @isildu
    @isildu 7 ปีที่แล้ว +785

    Is that a swordless piece of wall in the Eastom home?

    • @wilfdarr
      @wilfdarr 7 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      isildu He obviously needs more swords.

    • @penguasakucing8136
      @penguasakucing8136 7 ปีที่แล้ว +133

      isildu Perhaps...but it does not mean the floor isn't...
      I mean, somehow Matt always able to get one by reaching down...

    • @Sacharius
      @Sacharius 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      staged...

    • @wilfdarr
      @wilfdarr 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Regi JK lol touche.

    • @Tullio238
      @Tullio238 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Well there is at least one Easterling running round the home

  • @shadiversity
    @shadiversity 7 ปีที่แล้ว +471

    The discussion between the both of you is great, Lucy really knows her stuff! In regards to this topic I've recently started to teach my wife longsword and it's amazing the things that I took for granted that a novice finds particularly complex. It's been very eye opening. In case anyone missed the most significant part of this comment I'll point it out, MY WIFE IS LEARNING HOW TO USE A SWORD, WOOT! only took me eight years. As they say, couples who sword together stay together, or at least know how to disembowel each other. . .

    • @GargleMyMayonaze
      @GargleMyMayonaze 7 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Hey Shad I watched your sparring video and I have to say for someone who's self taught you're not bad, I was pleasantly surprised, but I think you should really spend more time doing cutting practice, the main problem you have your edge alignment is really terrible, you strike with the flat of your blade a lot, not trying to be an asshole, just a helpful criticism.

    • @robertlewis6915
      @robertlewis6915 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Those who stay together slay together.

    • @luger9857
      @luger9857 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ive been teaching my wife sword techniques for a while now. Particularly thrusting motions😃

    • @Eagle-eye-pie
      @Eagle-eye-pie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      An armed marriage is a polite marriage.

    • @Jazzman-bj9fq
      @Jazzman-bj9fq 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@luger9857So you also enjoy being the 'pin cushion' sometimes ;) Sorry, couldn't help myself on that one. Good show!!

  • @Pawnce
    @Pawnce 7 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    The Basket-Hilted Two-Handed Smallsword: Ultimate Noob Weapon

    • @fatefulbrawl5838
      @fatefulbrawl5838 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are those actually real, are just a combo word? Cause I've checked.

    • @unknownghost3145
      @unknownghost3145 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@fatefulbrawl5838 @Fateful Brawl pretty much just a madeup combo word.
      Baskethilted two handed sword sounds terribly restricted to any 2 handed movements, and a smallsword is a thrust only (Triangular shaped blade) which is for 1 handed sword.
      So in conclusion,
      It's a very restricted and cumbersome hortionzal heavy bowl guard around your hands with a thrust only blade. *Definitely a worthy noob weapon!*

    • @fatefulbrawl5838
      @fatefulbrawl5838 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@unknownghost3145 Hmmm, thanks for the info.

  • @bandswithbards1973
    @bandswithbards1973 7 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    I laughed more than I should have when he said neither of them is a rapierist

  • @KnightSquire
    @KnightSquire 7 ปีที่แล้ว +346

    YOU FOOLISH FOOLS! The easiest sword style is movie style... hit your opponents sword a few times throw in a twirl and go home the victor. DUH!!

    • @storyspren
      @storyspren 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      NinjaEugene's style on the other hand is so complex that only a fencing god like him is capable of performing such feats.

    • @louirudy670
      @louirudy670 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      KnightSquire Nija Eugene is god tier.

    • @ianseymour3497
      @ianseymour3497 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Obviously, if you follow my interpretations of the techniques for longsword, it is by far the easiest style to learn for both beginners and masters who think they know the correct interpretations.

    • @elirantuil5003
      @elirantuil5003 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Louis Rudy His only rival is the formidable HEMA douche

    • @louirudy670
      @louirudy670 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Eliran Tuil they shall never fight for it would destroy the universe as we know it

  • @thebobbytytesvarrietyhour4168
    @thebobbytytesvarrietyhour4168 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Having done both smallsword and rapier, I have noticed that with the lighter sword, people can abuse the lack of weight to get away with improper technique by flailing. For actual sparing, I find giving the newcomer the less forgiving weapon helps them learn better.

  • @CarnalKid
    @CarnalKid 7 ปีที่แล้ว +346

    YAY, LUCY!

    • @metteuston7699
      @metteuston7699 7 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      Loocy Euston?

    • @pellaken
      @pellaken 7 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      She needs her own series, either on her own or on this channel; she is great!

    • @perw12345
      @perw12345 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mettwoch ?

    • @CarnalKid
      @CarnalKid 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      +Teddy Boragina If she had her own series, nobody would watch Matt's videos anymore. He's currently torn between wanting the extra views she brings, and fearing that she will replace him. Heavy, man.

    • @jdzencelowcz
      @jdzencelowcz 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She his wife or sister?

  • @andrewkgsmith
    @andrewkgsmith 7 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    You're a lovely couple, when will you have a mixed tag team match with Skall and Kara? Haha

    • @eduardofreitas8336
      @eduardofreitas8336 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      andrewkgsmith that would be kind of unfair haha

  • @alanaubryknight
    @alanaubryknight 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I am Deaf! you do such a good job on so many of your videos making sure they are closed captioned. Will you please review and see if cc is still an option? Deaf people like this stuff too!!! And you being one of the most looked up to researchers in this field, we need that information from you rather than a walmart sofa armchair self proclaimed expert! Lol. Thanks!

    • @Cheezmonka
      @Cheezmonka 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Commenting on this for extra visibility

    • @ThatGuyMarquis
      @ThatGuyMarquis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree with this person plz make captions for deaf people.

    • @TechnoGlobalist
      @TechnoGlobalist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Cheezmonka me2

  • @Blake_Stone
    @Blake_Stone 7 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    0:12 - Lucy you realise that by the laws of TH-cam you are now obligated to start a channel called "Sortagladiatoria"?

  • @MonkeyKingsformerroomate
    @MonkeyKingsformerroomate 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Lucy's face expressions during phrases like "Neither Lucy nor I are rapierists" are pretty damn funny. Maybe I imagined that one. Either way I like when you guys do vids together.

  • @willek1335
    @willek1335 7 ปีที่แล้ว +375

    Matt, your wife is a good co-host.
    BTW: Can we please see you two spar?

    • @penguasakucing8136
      @penguasakucing8136 7 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Wille k Yes please, we want to see both of you trying to penetrate each other's defenses. The deeper, the better.
      BTW, hello Hirdmen

    • @wilfdarr
      @wilfdarr 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wille k Had he kept pushing I'm sure we would have 😆

    • @willek1335
      @willek1335 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey YGO!

    • @maelgugi
      @maelgugi 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      wouldn't that be considered domestic violence? :D

    • @GCurl
      @GCurl 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Scholagladiatoria TH-cam RED edition! ;)
      XDD

  • @nullunit
    @nullunit 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    She waits patiently and watches him, waiting to pounce...
    Seriously though., relationship goals. I like you guys together.

  • @lancerd4934
    @lancerd4934 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I haven't seen the video yet, but I'm gonna go ahead and say "cutlass". Linear footwork, 1 engaging guard, 2 cuts, 4 parries, and 1 riposte. You can teach the entire system in one afternoon, and then it's just practice, practice, practice.

  • @codycole2684
    @codycole2684 7 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I cut trees down with a one handed axe...the fact the handle was snapped in half ages ago is completely unrelated and has nothing to do with it...

  • @Brashnir
    @Brashnir 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Really love Lucy's inputs in this video, and think she raises some excellent complementary points. Looks like you two made excellent choices when you picked each other.

  • @Master...deBater
    @Master...deBater 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Wow...Lucy's smile could bring the sun up in the morning!!!

  • @elioamedeo
    @elioamedeo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    You know your italian pronunciation wasn't really bad until you did that weird super Mario accent XD
    Great video as always

    • @scholagladiatoria
      @scholagladiatoria  7 ปีที่แล้ว +165

      Come on, that's half the fun of doing an Italian accent. Probably needs more hand movements though.

    • @elioamedeo
      @elioamedeo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      😂

    • @FogmanS2N
      @FogmanS2N 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I think it would spur further improvement if you discovered whether you have any Italian ancestors. I know of a very reliable site for that.

    • @e.zponder7526
      @e.zponder7526 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Drinking a lot of port probably didn't help in that regard. For best results, he should be drinking grappa.

    • @davemeggison4283
      @davemeggison4283 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Wheres Metatron when you need him?

  • @DylanSwayneHughes
    @DylanSwayneHughes 7 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    how would you rate the level of sword-related household damage you experience normally? :)

    • @bozo5632
      @bozo5632 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      In financial figures, and also by weight, volume and number of incidents.

    • @laionidas7614
      @laionidas7614 7 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      There's a reason probably, why Matt crops out his ceiling in all of his videos.

    • @ILPYou
      @ILPYou 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My ceiling lamp is more tape than lamp.
      Matt's is probably even worse.

  • @cam9378
    @cam9378 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Both Eastons. Chilling and sipping drinks. Bantz. >30 min runtime. Maximum comfy.

  • @ralphweaver1176
    @ralphweaver1176 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Do a regular "Night with Lucy and Port" video.

  • @indy2867
    @indy2867 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm SO glad you mention not just "fitness" but specialized fitness. If you're question is "what can you learn in two months" then I think the answer is REALLY posture and movement.
    Work on getting the posture of a horse rider, or a classical dancer first. Then work on being able to squat and lunge without losing that posture.
    Separate your upper body and lower body. The upper body makes certain shapes, and smoothly transitions between various shapes. The legs are the mobile platform that moves that upper body around, in both the horizontal AND VERTICAL planes.
    You would be absolutely better served doing just that for two months, but students don't sign up for class to work on posture, they (quite understandebly) want to fight with swords.

  • @CDKohmy
    @CDKohmy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I had my first in-person HEMA lesson today focused on rapier and after I went around and handled various swords (longsword, arming sword, backsword) and bucklers and noticed longsword was absolutely easiest to wield. The rapier style was by Gerard Thibault btw.

    • @regulus6773
      @regulus6773 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you still involved in HEMA?

    • @CDKohmy
      @CDKohmy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@regulus6773 yes, but haven’t been able to be as actively involved.

  • @Child_of_the_lie
    @Child_of_the_lie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I know this is an older video, but it caught my interest. I've recently started training at a HEMA club, an introduction to German longsword. I was more interested in learning the sabre, but after a couple of classes I definitely see the wisdom in using longsword as an introduction.

  • @reministic7165
    @reministic7165 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I agree with you, Matt. I've been studying the rapier for a while and when I tried some longsword after that it felt SO much easier than when I started the rapier.

  • @brokenursa9986
    @brokenursa9986 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    For me, being self-taught until now, I've found longsword to be very forgiving to figure out, even despite the more complex techniques. Blood and Iron's TH-cam channel has helped me immensely to improve my ability with a longsword.

  • @ljprep6250
    @ljprep6250 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Good video, you two. And at 26:30 or so, you finally let Lucy finish a sentence! OK, more videos, guys!
    Question: What exercises should potential swordspeople use to build up their sword-necessary musculature prior to their first classes?

  • @Tomartyr
    @Tomartyr 7 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I prefer the term 'double-fisting' over 'dual-wielding'. It's still a bit gimpy but a different kind of gimpy.
    Also I have an issue with Matt's choice: the smallsword might be easier to learn but it's probably not easier to use effectively. Something that you've pointed out many times before is that people, especially the inexperienced, tend to resort to slashing over stabbing when panicked.

    • @bmxriderforlife1234
      @bmxriderforlife1234 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      that is true however if you have nothing but thrusting to focus on then at some point itll get drilled in, i believe he also forgot the biggest advantage for a noob with a smallsword, the things are stupidly light, though the hand protection isnt very useful in most cases.

    • @bozo5632
      @bozo5632 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Double fisting, from now on.
      The question wasn't which system is the easiest way to become an effective swordsman, it was, which is easiest in the first few weeks for total beginners?

    • @Tomartyr
      @Tomartyr 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +bmxriderforlife1234 That's true and it's not like having a cutty-slashy sword is particularly noob friendly as then you have edge alignment to worry about anyway.
      +Bo Zo Yes I just think they should make it clear that they were talking about which is easier to simply learn rather than which is easiest for a beginner to pick up and perform effectively. (which is what I assumed they meant)
      But if the question really is just about learning then surely the easiest would be the shortest treatise/manual if you only had to read and memorise it.

    • @bmxriderforlife1234
      @bmxriderforlife1234 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      edge alignment can be learned pretty quickly.

    • @123animefreakify
      @123animefreakify 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Another term you can use to describe duel wieldin is ambidexting which is a term to desrcibe double fisting.

  • @ElDrHouse2010
    @ElDrHouse2010 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    True. Because a training small sword is something you can even give to a child 10-12 years old to practice with.
    Small Sword is by far the easiest. It's only thrusts so you don't even have to learn to slash, it's light, comfortable, noob friendly all around. Makes sense.

  • @SanderMakes
    @SanderMakes 7 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    "Longsword, the weapon for the weak and feebly" - Matt Easton

  • @Vitadoc01
    @Vitadoc01 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love how lucy is constantly smirking and eye rolling at mat :D

  • @Scarecr0w_ofWaaagh_strawpies
    @Scarecr0w_ofWaaagh_strawpies 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    honestly I like the Sabre. Rapiers are nice but I enjoy Sabre or sword and shield.

  • @jthewelshwarlord6331
    @jthewelshwarlord6331 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I started my practice with Figueirdo's 16 Rules of the Montante and when I started practicing with AHF, some people commented on how fast my fendenti and flicks were. Endurance requires attention now, which Rowarth's sabre is helping with.

  • @hazzardalsohazzard2624
    @hazzardalsohazzard2624 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    For a moment I thought Lucy was saying she'd studied Silver for 300 years. She's looking good for her age.
    There's a style for Broadsword/Backsword which is fairly simple. My club instructor says it can be taught in 5 minutes. You need hanging guard, which is hilt above the head, point forward and keep it between you and your opponent. Then basically windmill the sword from your wrist, without moving anything else. You have two moves and can hold your own in a fair fight. This is from a Broadsword manual which comes later than what Lucy does.
    Also, Longsword may be easiest if all you do is thrust with one hand, recover to a two handed position and then be ready to retreat at all times.

  • @youtubevoice1050
    @youtubevoice1050 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Could it be that manuals left out details on purpose? That was often done in japanese manuals, because of the competition between different schools.

    • @julians.2597
      @julians.2597 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Could be, we have no idea, but the books itself were mostly confidential, so it seems likely that people just learned the basics from their teacher

  • @TheOhgodineedaname
    @TheOhgodineedaname 7 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    "If you can fit two hands on your weapon then, you know, you're doing pretty well and you get quite a lot of leverage"
    When is this channel getting censored for lewd content?

    • @nullunit
      @nullunit 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      The best part about that is Lucy's big double thumbs up in the background. So either she is covering for Matt or he is packing the legit panoply. :D

    • @joeleek9976
      @joeleek9976 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      DushinSC -definitely tell that it isn't grape juice in those glasses

    • @MunyuShizumi
      @MunyuShizumi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "So, what you're doing with your thrust-only weapon, you think of the complexity of that in the first 8 weeks.."
      "I think the smallsword is simpler."

    • @PlayaSinNombre
      @PlayaSinNombre 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joe Leek any (tawny) port in a storm...

  • @Sophocles13
    @Sophocles13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You should do a "Best sword style to learn for the Apocalypse" where you have to consider carrying it everywhere, fighting people and potentially animals, and versatility i.e. use as a light tool.

  • @Thetermsofservice1
    @Thetermsofservice1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Notice Matt keeps his innuendos to himself when his wife is around

    • @richardbonnette490
      @richardbonnette490 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That is very good, he SHOULD keep them to himself, especially online, in public, or in private.
      Good note, Larold.

    • @eligostheexalted
      @eligostheexalted 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardbonnette490 Shut the fuck up, you prude.

    • @richardbonnette490
      @richardbonnette490 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@eligostheexalted
      Seriously, this is a year old comment. Why would you even bother?
      Look, If you don't like what I have to say, you can try and be civil about it.
      Although, seeing how the corona virus is what brought you here, I guess you did not think this post through, so I won't mind it.
      If you want to know why I said that then - a year ago - it's because I come from a big family. I made this comment thinking about how much I would hate it if my younger brother or sister would learn about innuendos from a video on swords. You may think it funny, but I disagree. Although innuendos are ridiculous, and in ridiculous things we find humor, it is not that funny when it is either a serious matter or when it is unwanted. I happen to have read on the statistics of abuse in domestic homes, and the related causes that cause such problems. A demoralization of the mind from a young age is a prominent factor in creating criminals, sex abusers and sexual predators, and immoral lives, which I what I was thinking of when I wrote that comment - one year ago. So I prefer protecting children from stupid and fruitless "jokes" rather than allowing the limited and short-lived laughter one might have from such jokes.
      Other than that, as you are free to keep your opinion, I have no problem with your comment. Simple.
      Have a good day! May God bless you and keep you safe!
      Pax tecum!

    • @eligostheexalted
      @eligostheexalted 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Richard Bonnette Imagine writing a thesis in response to an insult.

    • @andrzejsobanski6752
      @andrzejsobanski6752 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@eligostheexalted Imagine insulting someone in response to an opinion.

  • @CplDiesel
    @CplDiesel 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I DEFINITELY think you should do more videos with your wife. I loved the back and forth.

  • @sf90001
    @sf90001 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sword discussions and wine? Two of my favorite things! That would be a funny video, discussing wine with Metatron.

  • @TheLowstef
    @TheLowstef 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Matt by himself? Great. It's what I came here for.
    Matt and Lucy together? Better. At least for some videos.

  • @kccarnine2124
    @kccarnine2124 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was everything I was hoping for! I love all of your videos but I hope port chats with Lucy becomes a regular thing.

  • @PadraicSmith
    @PadraicSmith 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don't know why but the first few minutes, after you pulled up the sabre and longsword and mentioned dual wielding I just started laughing. I don't know why but I just found the interactions you two have quite funny.
    25:47 Bologense sauce and buckler.
    26:31 Bologese Sauces (And hooray! You finally acknowledged the sauces!)

  • @JayMoreau
    @JayMoreau 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great content as usual. I enjoyed having Lucy's counterpoints as a part of the discussion. Cheers, Eastons!

  • @akeffs
    @akeffs 7 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    8:20 My weapon is too short for even one hand, feels bad man. :(

    • @mcorte2224
      @mcorte2224 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      akeffs thats sad really, wish you the best

    • @wilsoncalhoun
      @wilsoncalhoun 7 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      SWORDSMITHS HATE HIM! TRY THIS ONE WEIRD TRICK TO ADD FIVE INCHES TO YOUR GRIP!

    • @impersonal6959
      @impersonal6959 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Joshua Noble This comment is gilded in gold!

    • @davemeggison4283
      @davemeggison4283 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Damn, tricky to get in close enough to make it count then??

    • @johnmcmanus7809
      @johnmcmanus7809 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      ahh ickle!

  • @georgekidder1062
    @georgekidder1062 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of the more enjoyable videos I've watched recently. Many points to laugh at along the way. Good Job!

  • @Zagardal
    @Zagardal 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Now I can't stop thiking about how you hit on each other with sword puns or stuff like that

  • @charlesstonebridge525
    @charlesstonebridge525 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    also, a 'points over port' series of videos like this would be amazing

  • @Canuovea
    @Canuovea 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think you are talking about two different things.
    1) How easy they are to teach.
    2) How easy they are to learn.
    The interpretation of the manual will mostly be left up to the teacher, not the student, at least in the first two months. Therefore if you separate that from the actual learning... it makes a difference. So perhaps it would put longsword more in the running.
    That isn't to say the ease of teaching and learning are entirely unrelated, but they are different things.

    • @wierdalien1
      @wierdalien1 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cano Vea id love to experiment with myself. I am dyspraxic so I would be good marker on ease to learn

  • @karlkruger7310
    @karlkruger7310 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In "The Sword and the Centuries " By Alfred Hutton on page 74 writing of the use of a Rapier and cloak {as defense} He says " This fight was very easy to acquire & Swetnam says that in a very few lessons a boy of 15 can learn to defend himself against any man whatsoever and indeed we ourselves know a little boy of that age, Master Charles Sefton, who more than holds his own with the gentleman who taught him."

  • @gabriel300010
    @gabriel300010 6 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    "longsword is for weak feeble lazy people" - Matt Easton

    • @GraupeLie
      @GraupeLie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Hahaha, guess that will be my weapon of choice then! :D

  • @TheTruth-xp2of
    @TheTruth-xp2of 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's nice to see some videos like this, where your statements are challenged, causing you to further explain your reasoning. You do tend to come out well prepared and cover as many angles as you can, but it's always good to have another perspective bouncing off observations you haven't covered.

  • @MarcRitzMD
    @MarcRitzMD 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In Pathfinder and DnD, it's called Two-Weapon Fighting.

  • @StateOfMind63
    @StateOfMind63 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have to agree. I picked up smallsword far quicker than Longsword. Started learning them both at the same time as a complete beginner. Took me somewhat more time to get competent with a longsword but that could just be me.

  • @The1Helleri
    @The1Helleri 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    1/5 HEMA Practitioners will be rapiered in their lifetime. But don't worry. Neither of them are rapierists.

  • @Psiberzerker
    @Psiberzerker 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Strong in specific ways." Yes, definitely, one of the first drills I do is holding out the weight of it, and building the muscles to just hold it, steady, and get used to the weight/leverage without tiring. If you can't do that, you can't learn anything else effectively. (I still start with spear, and shield.)

    • @Psiberzerker
      @Psiberzerker 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      After that, I show them low guard, tip up, right about the hip, and extension. Now, do that 20 more times, take a break, grab some Gatorade, and do it again, 20 more times. I'll show you something else tomorrow, when you tell me how bad your shoulder, wrist, and forearm hurt. (Also with Spear and Shield.)

  • @Feminismisfornobody
    @Feminismisfornobody 7 ปีที่แล้ว +215

    >exams looming
    >everything is awful
    >new matt video
    >everything shall be okay

    • @TheZombieCurryKid
      @TheZombieCurryKid 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      School is for chumps!

    • @DaSpineLessFish
      @DaSpineLessFish 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Feminism is for nobody
      I could study C2 or I could listen to Matt talk about penetration

    • @Feminismisfornobody
      @Feminismisfornobody 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      C2 is piss easy, go for matt
      unless you have fp2/3 the next day, there is no excuse not to listen to matt

    • @DaSpineLessFish
      @DaSpineLessFish 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      C2 is piss easy if you're not stupid.

    • @TheZombieCurryKid
      @TheZombieCurryKid 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's right though, arrows are only for 4chan.

  • @extrasmack
    @extrasmack 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoy these informal evening in with the Eastons videos. Both informative and highly entertaining. By all means please do more.

  • @622PSS
    @622PSS 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Have no idea about the difference between the use of a sabre and that of a backsword (e.g. 'passing footwork'?). Please do a video on that. Thanks in advance.

    • @xiezicong
      @xiezicong 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      +EnglishMartialArts collaboration incoming

  • @matthiasfeldmann3684
    @matthiasfeldmann3684 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You actually drink port! And you even kind of advertise it. I LOVE IT!!!
    Please keep on doing that. People need to drink more port again. My whisky is becoming increasingly expensive, because there are so few port barrels available.
    (I also like the rest of the video quite a lot, but the port related part is realy special.) ;-)

  • @captainhellenic
    @captainhellenic 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    her eyeroll is epic.

  • @skibo3522
    @skibo3522 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done Lucy & Matt, it's always AMAZING to see just how many words Matt can actually verbalize before he must absolutely stop and BREATH. Seriously though for as long as I've been watching Matt's video's for this past year I guess I just was not cognizant of the fact that there are schools of practice for every bleedin' blade ever made. So if I have this right now, if one were want to, could one show up to 'Rapier Practice' with one's 1908 Cavalry Sword and expect to be able to use it as much like a Rapier?? Thanks if anyone cares to answer the question who has 'Matt-like' knowledge of these things. Thanks for posting by the way, ~Mark~

  • @tristanroberts
    @tristanroberts 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the talk about hand protection raised an interesting question for me. In sailing there's an old adage that dinghy sailors make good yachtsmen but yachtsmen make shit dinghy sailors (because dinghies are much less forgiving so teach you to worry more about the details). Do you think a similar thing could be said about swords? Are longsworders likely to make better sabreurs than vice versa because it forces you to worry more about your hand or is there not much difference?

    • @scholagladiatoria
      @scholagladiatoria  7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yes this does exist, though it is complex in how different weapons/systems benefit others.

  • @briankirk4097
    @briankirk4097 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    fun video.
    I think ease of use for beginners largely boils down to which weapon and system have the least number of guards, and therefor the smallest set of decision tree while still being competent. To this end, my vote for easiest to learn systems would have to be Swetnam Staff (only 2 guards with well defined actions and a very small decision tree).
    Lastly, one thing I think you have to consider with thinking about training someone for just 2 months, is how close that will get them to someone who has been practicing for 2 years. I think that the subtlety of something like a smallsword means that the 2 year person is actually going to be much better than the 2 month person. On the other hand, with sabre, I think the 2 year person will have not distanced themselves as far from the 2 month person than in the smallsword case. Therefore, the sabre must be said to be easier to teach for beginners because it will get them proportionally closer to the "average" fencer.
    just my 2 cents.

  • @velikiradojica
    @velikiradojica 7 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    You two never engaged in rapierism? Good! Sparring for fun is the way to go, just make sure you don't thrust too hard or one of you might get hurt ;)

  • @emarsk77
    @emarsk77 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a noob (about 6 months of training with longsword, sidesword, rapier and a bit of sabre), I'd vote for the longsword.
    I agree with most of what Matt said, but I'm with Lucy about the hand protection: it didn't come much into play in the first few months of training.
    I disagree about the treatises, though: as a student, I don't feel it matters much whether they're clear or not. Yes I like to read them, but ultimately at this stage of my formation I learn from my teacher, not directly from the treatises.
    I'd make one further point: at first I found rapier not only physically demanding, but also terribly awkward. It demands much more technical finesse than the other weapons, both in the footwork, in the handwork, and in the "feeling" of the blade.
    Recently, I took a couple of classes in smallsword, and while it's much less tiring I'm not sure it's easier to grasp for a beginner (my bit of rapier experience proved to be really useful): it may make fewer things than other swords, but - like with the rapier - those few techniques must be executed with more accuracy to be effective.
    I can't say much about the sabre because we did very little of it, but for me the sidesword is STILL very tiring - the worst of them - while I'm definitely more comfortable with the rapier now.
    All of this in my opinion of course, which, given my lack of experience, may be totally wrong.
    Cheers!

  • @retepish
    @retepish 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Do they all ways pull swords out when drinking wine?

    • @Xanatos712
      @Xanatos712 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's the Eastons. They pull swords out to check the mail box.

    • @gabriel300010
      @gabriel300010 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      do you not? I always thought only people who dont have swords dont pull them when drinking wine... I for example only have a broomstick, and have never drinked wine without using it as a sword.

    • @MrSmoore77
      @MrSmoore77 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      First time I met my best mate he was wobbling about with a naval cutlass and a bottle of whisky

  • @forgingapath8809
    @forgingapath8809 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This come through as a really good example of 2 people with a good grasp of swordsmanship approaching the same question from very different angles. Lucy is taking the question very literally in terms of someone who’s straight off the street, encompassing the physical aspects aswell as the ease of learning the manuals. Matt seems to look at it from a teachability / what the type of sword provides over all, it’s also extremely easy to see his bias for the longsword lol. Was quite a good watch, my wife commented that a desire to learn a particular sword is just as important as the ease of learning, if you just don’t like the look/feel of a saber, it doesn’t matter if it’s easy to learn.

  • @Bottlekiller
    @Bottlekiller 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Drinking and brandishing sharp objects.
    Just my kind of video!

  • @candleman2123
    @candleman2123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just found this, enjoyed Lucy's insights. Surprised I haven't seen more of this, I'd be keen to listen.

  • @KuriPango
    @KuriPango 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Yeah Lucy

  • @laionidas7614
    @laionidas7614 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm still happy I started with classic foil. It's very easy to get into, though the downside is that it is simply not a weapon, and requires you to unlearn a lot (like using the blade's flexibility to 'whip' someone in the back of the shoulderblades =P ), when you arrive at learning to use actual swords.
    Regarding two-handed vs one-handed swords, I always found one-handed swords to be easier to pick up. Thus personally I'd always recommend a beginner to start with a one-handed sword, but that might be due to my own almost complete inability to multitask. I sometimes feel that the trouble I have coordinating two hands places constraints on my performance that exceed those imposed by the reduced control and increased weight perception when using one hand.
    Finally, I'd say Japanese sword is one of the hardest to start with. However, if you do intend to train with Japanese swords, it is probably better to do start with it, because there are in fact a lot of facets of Japanese swordsmanship that are completely alien to European swordmanship. It must also be said that traditional use of the Japanese sword, at least on a certain level, can vary widely between one school and the other, depending e.g. on whether the respective school trains for use with and against a particular type of armour, or none at all, and for which class of warrior the style was intended (levied footmen, professional soldiers, dedicated martial noblemen, etc.).

  • @exiletsj2570
    @exiletsj2570 7 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Does a video with the wife, spends most of the time blocking her face with a giant sword lol.

    • @w1ck3ds1ck
      @w1ck3ds1ck 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Well it is a video about swords, not faces.

    • @orangeiceice12
      @orangeiceice12 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Same thing I do to my wife

    • @bluegent7
      @bluegent7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sword of the Patriarchy.

    • @avisariods4063
      @avisariods4063 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      and starting to talk while she is still talking developing an idea

  • @stephenpajer3920
    @stephenpajer3920 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    one point that you missed both is the didactive advantage of the protective gear needed. It is fairly easy and cheap to get decent protective gear for smallsword fencing, also it does not weigh a ton, since you can use modern sport fencing equipment. You can start with a fencing mask, a glove and a hoodie. Also, since the impact of the thrust is very easy to control, the smallsword offers the opportunity for beginners to execute techniques with partners much earlier than for example a longsword. Also smallsword footwork has hardly any variations (compared to spanish rapier or longsword). Also because of the fact that you only focus on thrusts - the smallsword is in my opinion the easiest/fastest style to learn. Because you only have to learn one half of fencing.
    i sum up:
    - no complicated footwork
    - no cutting
    - no wrestling (just a few disarms)
    - early full speed exercising of techniques with a partner, even free sparring
    - easy on the hands and body due to less weight
    - cheapest weapon and cheapest gear
    - availability of gear
    - practising alone even at a small flat is possible (no swinging it around and getting caught on the chandelier or knocking over grandma's ashes from the fireplace)
    - treatises are understandable and detailled - and there are lots of them

  • @CarnelianUK
    @CarnelianUK 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm surprised you picked smallsword - as you've mentioned in previous videos, human beings instinctively prefer to use caveman chops, not pokey thrusts, so surely cutting swords should come more naturally to beginners?
    As a further note, do you think that part of what contributes to the difficulty of longsword or backsword is not just who the manuals are written for and how methodical they are, but down to language? The various longsword manuals are presumably written in mediaeval latin or german and have then been translated. George Silver is written in Elizabethan english, whereas sabre and smallsword are Victorian or Regency english which is much more familiar to modern readers and therefore easier to understand what they're on about. As an analogy, pretty much anyone can read Oliver Twist or Jane Eyre. The Faerie Queene or Dante's Inferno are a little more mentally taxing.

    • @robmoore107
      @robmoore107 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ben Kirkby As a non-swordsman!i would my early lessons to help me unlearn my instinctive proclivities, such as the cut and slash forms I learned as a 6 year old. I would think a small sword would be great to unlearn my amateurish Robin Hood styles.

    • @Likexner
      @Likexner 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I guess they dont consider real fighting because theyre talking about the first couple of months where you might not even spar.

  • @huskiefan8950
    @huskiefan8950 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly you guys took on a really complex topic here, and did a good job. Noone knows everything about every style and weapon👍 nice one

  • @timbehrens2863
    @timbehrens2863 7 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    Cool video. Just a quick site note. You interrupted Lucy a lot. I think she might have said a bit more and you could have had a bit more of a controversy/discussion. Besides that cool video. :)

    • @rafaelvieira6449
      @rafaelvieira6449 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I fully agree.

    • @The_PotionSeller
      @The_PotionSeller 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Brimborius der Ältere Stuff like that tends to happen after a few glasses of port

    • @Baker_7498
      @Baker_7498 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      So many side eyes!

    • @maelgugi
      @maelgugi 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      People always interrupts other while talking, that's how it goes, the more you know the other person the more likely you are to interrupt him/her. I see nothing to complain here...

    • @myowndata
      @myowndata 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      think so too

  • @WeissM89
    @WeissM89 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this discussions with Lucy.
    I think I'd pick sabre. I practice German lgonsword, and I don't find it that easy to use a two handed weapon. I have horrible coordination, so I think a on handed sword would be better for me.

  • @jessehardin5094
    @jessehardin5094 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    8th like and second comment. Hell yeah! Cheers from GA, USA Matt!

    • @scholagladiatoria
      @scholagladiatoria  7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Hi!

    • @alanj7099
      @alanj7099 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      scholagladiatoria is every form of sword have a break point and form to break it?

  • @pralinechocolates1
    @pralinechocolates1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok I’m almost 48, Never had training and I’m going to train myself. You guys video was clear and smooth...I’m going with long sword because I need both hands on the weapon for maximum damage. Wishing you all the best. Take care and thank you so much for uploading these videos!

  • @Psiberzerker
    @Psiberzerker 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I typically start with the Spear, so limiting it to Swords, I'd say a thrusting sword for the basics. Probably an Estoc, because that gives Reach, can be 2 handed (For Longsword) and you can practice cutting with it, without cutting me. A well balanced Estoc can be used 1 handed, you kind of have to grip above the guard with the forefinger, and thumb, but it can be done. Assuming a real sword (Not a trainer) you can learn most of the basics with an Estoc, and transfer that to all the others: Rapier, Longsword, just try not to stab me in training. That's why it's my choice, safety, sparring, transferring to other styles (One or 2 hand) weight to get in shape, for holding it out, and so forth.

    • @Psiberzerker
      @Psiberzerker 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      With Spear, as well as Estoc, one of the first things I teach (Informally, I'm not an insturctor. Honestly, I'm more of a Smith) is Reach, and how to use it. Because of all the things people at events have to unlearn from Games, and Stories. Like Strength, Damage, Speed, Hit Points, basically all stats. Reach is almost always ignored, or glossed over, so the first sword should be a point/reach weapon. To learn where yo're safe, how close you can get to hit them, extention, footwork to get back out safely, striking quickly, and retreating... Basically all things reach, because that's your first Defense, before you close to where you're in danger. For neophytes with basic training, they can actually win (Morale!) with the advantage of reach.

    • @Psiberzerker
      @Psiberzerker 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "The smallsword can't cut." For training, this is a good thing. Same goes for a typical Estoc, so I can spar with them, and just pick up some welts. (With a blunted tip, basic armor, I also make armor.) You can still learn the basics of cuts practicing with an edgeless sword. Not edge alignment, of course, but that's why we also drill cutting things, to learn that muscle memory. The problem is a smallsword is well, small. So, a lot of beginners get discouraged, especially with instructors that concentrate more on pwning newbs (SCA, I'm looking at you) The smallsword is also Light, which doesn't build up the shoulder. They have to train that seperately to move up to a heavier weapon like the Rapier, or Longsword. So, again, I'd argue for an Estoc (Which tend to weigh about the same as a Rapier, though the balance isn't as far back.)

    • @Psiberzerker
      @Psiberzerker 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh yeah. Assuming they have no idea what they will eventually end up with. If they want to learn Saber, or Ax, then obviously not Estoc. Nothing is going to carry over from one to the other. There's a lot of assumptions here. Oh, another point is a well made Estoc can take a lot more of a beating, even than a blunt "Practice" or sparring sword with an unshaprened edge. Not unlike not giving them a sharp sword so I can spar safely, I don't really want to train someone for about 40 minutes, then spend a couple hours touching up the edges on a training rapier, even an unsharpened one. Don't forget the instructor here, particularly when you don't know if they'll continue training, or just try it, and give up. (Especially if they get discouraged, because it's hard, and they get pwned by overeager instructors.)

    • @Psiberzerker
      @Psiberzerker 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, a Feder is a much better choice, that's what it's designed for.
      Okay, for the BASICS. The first 6-8 weeks, to get their feet wet, and you do paractice thrusting. Just not stabbing ME. That's what target dummies are for the "Sparing" part would be the basics of parrying, guards, and so forth. Defensively, not to mention building the muscles to actually hold out a full sized sword without tiring, or your hands shaking. As for in the Bind (German for up the butt) I don't train people to lock swords, and get in a shoving match. Holding it by the guard, as I said is for getting used to the weight, and balance, 1 handed, not fighting, nor even sparring with. You're making a lot of assumptions here based on what I didn't say. About wha to teach them, in their first few weeks. Which wasn't the question. The question is what Sword to use. Obviously a Federswert, but barring that, I typically have an Estoc at hand, because that's what I used. I am not in the habit of taking on neophytes full contact, with live swords, and I don't suggest it. The estoc would be for Drills, and parrying/guard practice, that's it. We have dead dummies to practice Striking, I just don't want to get stabbed accidentally.

    • @Psiberzerker
      @Psiberzerker 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also, I did specifically mention Armor, because I make it, and I wear it. Always, do not train anyone without protective equipment. Ever. In case that wasn't clear.

  • @shmuckling
    @shmuckling 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    More "port" videos and Lucy is a great co-host indeed. Port videos seem to last longer and so contain more information. It's great to hear Lucy's point of view and the video feels like a conversation, which is generally more interesting to listen to.

  • @haraldbearclaw1856
    @haraldbearclaw1856 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Finally, one of the first to comment. I got now +1 honour

    • @scholagladiatoria
      @scholagladiatoria  7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Take a +2

    • @haraldbearclaw1856
      @haraldbearclaw1856 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Omg! You even answered.
      All kidding aside, you have a great channel. I discovered it recently and been watching it ever since. Its weird, you even made me interested in cutlasses and sabers.

    • @scholagladiatoria
      @scholagladiatoria  7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Thanks for watching - there is not much not to like about cutlasses and sabres.

    • @bmxriderforlife1234
      @bmxriderforlife1234 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      same matt mentioned leadcutters in a video and then i was all like ouuuuuu whats that, now i want some leadcutters. things look beastly as shit.

    • @Grubnessul
      @Grubnessul 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      And the problem is that you infect people with this knowledge. Now I like them too.

  • @trock7542
    @trock7542 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A video on the Estoc would be cool

  • @Lokarsh21
    @Lokarsh21 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As an italian, I'm sorry to note that the second attempt at pronouncing 'Fiore di Battaglia' got much, much worse. xD

  • @Tax_Buster
    @Tax_Buster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Henry Cavill has a training video in preparation for his role in The Witcher. Just like what you mentioned, his trainer said that although Cavill is Superman buffed, the muscles that he needs to strengthen are different for purposes of sword fighting. The video is here on YT.

  • @WhiteCollarCrimeDNB
    @WhiteCollarCrimeDNB 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Please have a daughter and name her Sheena

  • @nathanfagan9881
    @nathanfagan9881 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really liked the format and was good to have you bouncing your opinion off another party.
    Keep up the excellent work,

    • @DoktorWeasel
      @DoktorWeasel 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, I love this format. And Lucy is a good co-host Although Matt clearly used to being the only person talking and needs to work on giving her more time. But having a second person with different take on things is a nice changeup. I love the few videos with Lucy (and fewer still when she's not silent and in full fencing gear) and the ones with Dr. Capwell.

    • @bozo5632
      @bozo5632 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +DoktorWeasel - +1

  • @prechabahnglai103
    @prechabahnglai103 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    B..but the spadroon!!!!

    • @Wunel
      @Wunel 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Prarp Vadanathorn muh spadroon!

  • @Theduckwebcomics
    @Theduckwebcomics 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great chemistry. More of these chats please! Maybe once a week, or once a month or something?

  • @stephenstokes4350
    @stephenstokes4350 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Matt my man why you always gotta cut off Lucy man...#FreeLucy

  • @tombearclaw702
    @tombearclaw702 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another taxing thing about rapier (I'm not hema I was a Epee fencer) and other thrusting weapons is those weapons tend require more use of fine motor skills for precision point control and it also more mentally and visually taxing especially early on to recognize the small subtle blade movement that constitute attacks and parrying etc

  • @RazerTNT
    @RazerTNT 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    8:20 priceless

  • @julientabulazero103
    @julientabulazero103 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Much port was consumed for the making of this video. It was a delight to make the acquaintance of Mrs Easton and to get an answer to one of the fundamental questions facing HEMA: How come Matt Easton be allowed to swing swords in the house in his videos?
    … its because Mrs Easton is in HEMA as well. We should have figured out that one from the start.

  • @codycole2684
    @codycole2684 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'd say single handed sword and sword and buckler. Sorry Matt love me some sword and buckler

  • @jacktraveller8290
    @jacktraveller8290 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For me I think the hardest thing with sabre footwork was less that it was more tiring than longsword (although that is true), it was that it's harder to coordinate. Passing is very similar to walking, so in drills and early sparring it's much easier to think about and get your feet and hands working together. For the longest time even in drills, lunge/recover would break down immediately as soon as I had to do something with my hands.

  • @GenophefeElisabeth
    @GenophefeElisabeth 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "So it doesn't matter how big or little you are, you can generate quite a lot of force [...] just with push and pull...."
    Oh, so that's how it is Matt. Some women have told me different storys on that...

  • @trappychan
    @trappychan 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Powerlifting shoutout :D And awesome Lucy in the same video! :DDD
    Oh, and I know the tired arm thing too well. Rapier is my favourite but I just can't wield it for long, my grip and shoulders can't take it. Longsword on the other hand, I can spend the whole day sparring.