I don't get the hype for FMAB, I mean it's a solid anime but I don't think it's even top 10, it pales in comparison to other series e.g. Monster, LOGH, Steins gate, Bebop etc.
I was just talking about this with a friend earlier today, but it really annoys me how people treat the MAL rankings. They act as if it's a joke, but then their favourite series gets into the Top 3 and they become toxic elitists who belittle everyone "below" them. Same goes for the ones already in the top spots, calling it "defending their throne." Like, guys, it's a ranking website, and an anime one no less. Don't get so worked up, you feel me?
It's not like MAL is the most credible site either. How many people have watched FMAB for example that don't use MAL? The people that don't like a given series would probably not go out of their way to go rate it on a website.
@@rainer9931 I would say MAL is "the most credible" even though it doesn't have the absolute truth, sometimes you agree with the scores, sometimes you don't, but the problem here is the toxic fandoms, *not the site.* Other person could say, use IMDB then, but, IMDB for anime? We all know it is not a page aimed for anime. The same I could say with IMDB, what if someone didn't like Breaking Bad? and because of that, that person didn't score it. Not because of that the site would lose credibility.
@@carlosdanielcalderonmontoy3723 yeah there are alot of people that use MAL and IMDB and stuff but like. As much as TH-cam? Na. Definitely not enough to the point where it actually matters, which I am thankful for.. And we can talk about actual toxic fandoms for a good long while, but thats not what what this specific comment was about so I didn't wanna mention it
I always thought MAL was super wrong so I don’t really ever pay attention to it lol. FMAB is actually the only one in the top 10 that I really really enjoy.
@@InsertUsernameHere_a when I see one of those reviews giving a good anime a score of 1 or 2, I am like, wtf, are you really serious? That is too exaggerate xd
I love FMAB, but the fact that the fans go out of their way to give series like Gintama, Fruits Basket and AoT a 1 rating just to keep their favorite anime at the #1 spot is just pathetic. Who fucking cares what's at the top of the list. What matters is what YOU rate the show.
Mal is full of pathetic elitists. One time I saw someone give berserk and vagabond an 8 and a 7 because none of the characters were well written. No reason or anything, just badly written.
The internet is full of many bullshit arguments and discussions This is why i prefer to avoid forums,i only use my anime list to add and track some anime
exactly, it literally missed out like over a hundred chapter's worth of content and they put a slideshow including the main character meeting GOD as a still frame for 7 seconds🤣
It actually screams lack of outside life interactions. That’s why I haven’t ventured into anime Twitter at all. A lot of these dudes are just straight weirdos, that’s why I don’t talk about anime with any anime watchers other than the people in my small friend group.😂
@@bigsmall2842 dude a few days ago i literally saw a kind of human being i thought was only a joke made up by the internet but holy sht. I saw the guy in some weeb shop i went to with a friend when we were in a dif town and he was like looking at manga stuff on a shelf while like 3 overweight girls were talking on the other side of it and he just straight up commented on the sht they were saying but gladly he was silent enough that they couldnt hear him because it was prob the unfuniest sht ive ever heard so that day i swore to never get into any anime related community ever again because holy fk that dude was degenerate
I think you guys are in a dire need of an actual life and communication experience, or else you wouldn't say some of the stupidest shit to ever be written. Every fandom consists of people, duh, the same species we all belong to, there isn't a fandom that consists of a special breed, a breed that is different from other people, that is entirely toxic, or entirely weird...etc. Anything you said about the anime community can be said about any other community; the comic community, the gaming community or whatever community, they all contain people and they all have good and bad people
A good story is satisfying to read because of the plethora of interesting and well written characters. Saying that only one character or a specific team of characters carry the show is a little bit of an exaggeration .. While the truth is every character has an important role in a story. Even characters that were present for 10 chapters or so but their small time spend with the protagonist Helped to further develop the protagonist as a character meaning that their presence were important.. To sum it up i just wanna say that removing a single character or arc from a story will definitely make the story completely different and it will most likely lose its balance
yeah but it's annoying to see people say Askeladd carried the Vinland Saga anime, like what they don't get that he is the main character of just that season, of the prologue arc, Thorfinn isn't, but there are other well written characters in it, e.g. Canute, Thorkell, Thors, that drunk priest, Thorfinn etc. Sure Askeladd was the best character by far and he stood out more but what I mean is if you take out Askeladd from the story, it doesn't make the story completely different, it makes it become non existent. You cannot remove Askeladd from the story since he is an integral character. So many dumb people out there. Moreover, many people shit on Thorfinn in this arc and find him unbearably annoying, heavily unlikeable, and I'm like that's the point, he's not meant to be likeable but that doesn't make him badly written at all.
Not always true. For example tenten. You could take her out of the story and replace her with generic anime girl and the end result wouldn’t change at all. This is why I’m so disappointed in her. She had a great concept, weapons master but no screen time, no actual feats and no actual relevance.
@@GodlyDra nah, her part might not be so important, but their are plot threads that are written and went down because Tenten is Tenten. Like it won't make sense if a generic character picked up that special weapon thing during the war and suddenly know how to use it. Like the plot needed someone to use that weapon and of course that is where Tenten is used for. Even if you magically replace Tenten in thatt situation, the character that will only suit to replace her part shall be in the end is like a ninja weapon specialist. In short a Tenten 2.0.
I love the sub much more, as it didn't spoonfeed me every single detail as the dub did. I do however really like the dub too, and I think they made an incredible effort even if it didn't live up to the original.
You can’t take away Gaston from Berserk, because he is a good boy who wanted to open a clothing shop and live a simple life and who was a Chad like the rest of the Hawks.
I really respect the fact that you said that there are similar people on berserk as there is to fmab, that they can't accept that people have different taste, it is something i have seen lately "oh whatever you are reading now, berserk is better on 5 different levels" for example Not many people today would say that about the fandom of their favorite medium when talking about others mediums faults!
What's the point in reading berserk or any other manga if you cant lord it over people as you read the most elite of manga.? Lol I'm kidding obviously. Honestly the anime and manga community has a lot in common with rick and Morty at its peak.... and obviously this isn't everyone. But I feel the rick and morty copypasta of "you have to have a very high IQ to enjoy rick and morty" could be read as "you have to have a very high IQ to enjoy berserk" Its just gatekeeping and people getting too fanboy about something. Tale as old as time. Kinda depressing but the community means nothing it's just people who like a show. Enjoy what you like and try to enjoy things. But people are looking for validation in what shows they watch now lol.
Yeah lol I hate that, if you tell a Berserk fan that it’s not the best thing you’ve read or your favorite story they’ll react so childishly about your taste; I love Berserk but it’s okay that it’s not my favorite
@@tdotitan8855 ngl, I see more of those kinda elistists on IPs that either have one of those dark elements, one with meta-writing style/metafictional genre(eg: your example rick and morty)or any IPs that have an unconventional narrative structure that still managed to be critically acclaimed
@@kennethmendoza1350 i think a part of it is that by there very nature berserk or rick and morty wont be as popular as lets say pokemon because of the audience and the aformed dark elements. And because it isnt that popular people think its special because its unique. So they feel they have to "convince people" that its worth it, and also to validate spending time on it, i mean i wonder how many berserk fans found it by chance and how many did by being told its super awesome and makes you a "true" anime fan. or something like that. Nothing new. but yeah i have found myself falling prey to it in the past and try to be better, now i just dont care lol, maybe thats growing up, maybe its the fact that i dont have a youtube channel where my jobs is to hype something up. But i mean its also just people on the internet, nothing new.
FMAB is for sure one of my favorites but I completely disagree with what the fandom does to keep it number 1 the only placement that should matter to you is yours… I also really don’t like the word mid and overrated
Mid and overrated are two words that elitists use way too much. It's like how SJWs use the same racist, sexcist, homophobic excuses. They just say that "this series is mid" or "this series is overrated" just to start an argument and to push an agenda
Tbh it's not the fandom as a whole it's just the part of the fandom who reside in mal and that's true for pretty much every series I've seen the fandoms are pretty much completely different from the people who use mal
It’s a nice info base too for looking up where you heard certain voice actors before. And I’m actually guilty of watching some shows just because it had a top tier cast of voice actors (like Bungou stray dogs or Durarara, which both ended up among my favorites) ^^
I mostly use it to keep track of the anime I watch and to look at what new anime to look forward to but I must say people on MAL are basically like people on Twitter. I mean just look at every anime reviews on that site, like seriously their takes are terrible
I am a MASSIVE FMA fan, I first watched FMAB when I was 12/13 years old, and it was honestly the first anime that really had an emotional impact on me and stuck with me till this day, part of the reason I think it had such a big impact on me is because during this weird and transitional period of my life, it was one of the very few pieces of media that treated me like an adult. It is easily my favourite anime of all time, and it disappoints me to no end to see people who seemingly love this show as much as I do, and are as passionate about it as I am, act so childishly towards others who don’t share the same opinion about it. It almost makes me ashamed to be a fan of the series when I see how these “real fans” treat other anime’s and their communities.
That's why I never felt part of the anime community,they take everything as a personal attack when you criticize their favorite or tell it's not your thing.Guys,chill out,just because I don't like something you love doesn't mean I consider it trash that offers nothing good on the medium it represents.Also,the majority loves the things I don't enjoy or love so congratulations,you win and I lose.At the end of the day,it all comes down to personal preference.After all,art is subjective. Note:By no means I mean every anime fan is toxic.I have seen many comment threads that had a very calm and mature discussion when criticizing or disagreeing with something without resorting to insults or threats.
Yeah I know that feel. I have a lot of hot takes about universally loved shows or about some shows people don’t like that are part of my favorites and a good amount of times mentioning that when asked I feel like I’m entering a war zone
@@animusswtor4822 I'm not good at giving advices but I suggest you avoid confronting any idiot who tells you to think otherwise.I once had fallen into that trap and believed my preferences are wrong till I matured enough to realize liking or disliking something for any reason isn't something to be ashamed or afraid of just because the majority loves or hates it.
@@alexstergiou247 I had that at the beginning of this year where some idiot in an argument asked for my top 20-ish and completely tore it to bits and posted me his „100% objectively correct“ list in return. Granted there were some good shows on there i didn’t know before but the worst part was that literally half of our lists were the same just in a different order and yet he played the superior clown….
@Jesus Pernia ehhhh I wouldn't put taboo over tpab or mbdtf but almost all his music is pretty quality, yeah, I love his music, him and JID are a fire combo
Im a die hard one piece fan, and I'm fine with people saying it's boring. The same thing with any anime I like, AoT, FMAB, etc. I don't enjoy AoT anymore, BUT i can admit it was well written for 90% of it. I liked the ending, but I didn't really enjoy the anime past season 3. Im good with that, most people should be, the issue is when people consider something bad for superficial reasons and think they're objective. You can be bored by Code Geass, One Piece, Fmab, AoT, MHA, idc; but as soon as you start hating on the writing without any genuine reasoning then you should keep your mouth shut. If you can create genuine criticisms, though, for example: One Piece's lack of death, I'm happy to accept that. I can admit every story has it's flaws, and I think that's a good thing to point out, but that doesn't mean that One Piece is "mid." writing wise, one piece is nearly perfect, in my opinion, but if people can point out flaws I am one hundred percent down to accept that. Just stop acting like how much you enjoy an anime means that its bad or good. You need substance
Don't get me started on those FUCKING seinen dickriders that hate on anything that is not Berserk or Vagabond. Just because they like a dark and mature story, they think everything else is so far beneath them. Like as if they can do a better job of writing a series. It's ok to dislike a series but there's no need to make people feel like they are stupid for liking it.
Somebody in the anime community pointing out the sexualizing of minors in fandom art. Dear gawd, there is hope yet. Completely agree with your main point too. I think it stems from people putting their whole identity into certain shows, and feel personally attacked when people point out the problems in that assumed identity.
I said the Lion King remake wasn't very enjoyable to this girl when I was in college and she was like "You can't imagine how hard that must have been, could you do any better?" Like....no? Because I'm not being given a multi-million dollar budget to do it at all. Some people always jump to defend anything that's criticised with aggression, I didnt even say anything bad
I'm scared to watch the remake but I'm interested to see what they did with the lion king. I will always prefer the original movie because I grew up with it. I used to watch it constantly on VHS as a kid. But I also feel nostalgic for the original 101 dalmatians and it's live action counterpart for the exact same reason. It's just a matter of opinion and theres no need to get riled up about it.
I'm a massive Denzel Curry fan myself. Ta13oo is one of the few albums i've heard, that doesn't have a single skip on it. Really looking forward to the video
Would love to see a Fullbring Arc, TYBW, and Hell arc one shot analysis aka your indepth thoughts on the Bleach arcs or characters like Kenny, Ulquirroa, Orihime, Ichigo, Yhwach, the sternritters etc
If you really want to make FMA fans crazy, start comparing the 2003 anime to the Brotherhood or the manga. You don't need to have another series rank above it for that.
FMA:B still top tier to me after all these years. Tried to show it to my friend and it didn’t grip her; showed her Beastars and she loved it. It is what it is. As a side note trash talking a series is only fun when you do it with your mates as friendly banter. Taking it so seriously just means you need you probably need to work on social and communication skills
him: take away the Akatsuki and Naruto would be bad. take away the Espada and Bleach would be bad. Me: thinking he would go with the warlord for one piece. him: take away the boats from one piece
A small part of MAL community is just like that. I know you said you knew that "every fandom does that", but I am still going to talk about this point. The fandom is pretty inactive since well it aired 12 years ago and hasn't had anything new (probably won't). It's true that many anime get review bombed when they get into the top, we have seen this recently. Yet everyone blames only and mainly FMAB fandom, they mostly don't even mention other anime fandom (maybe AoT but that's it). I have seen how toxic the other fandom are maybe even more than FMAB fandom itself, many insults to FMA and people saying overrated (we can see many examples in this comments section), memes and useless posts raging, encouraging others to review bomb FMAB as payback. Last time I checked the stats of FMAB (about july) it had 19k 1s, and now it has 22k. That's a 3k growth in a few months of a somewhat old anime. Yeah, when checking the stats of other anime we have seen FMAB fans and other anime fans. But we cannot really blame the fandom, it's really vague, one could be using bots, and people would think that it's the whole fandom doing this. I would even say FMAB is mostly a chill fandom, they receive criticism well, they know that people can like other things more. Why do I say this? Well, I've checked forums in MAL, the subreddit r/fullmetalalchemist (the latter is really great). I don't like to compare it with other anime, but I've seen other fandoms many times more obsessed with scores and they collectively trash on other anime and its fandom. My advice would be just to not care too much about stats, ignore the fandom when watching something.
Why can't we get past the whole "they don't like what I like, how I like it. Ree!" reaction. I mean come on. Let's just be mature and breathe. Another great video Masked. As always. Love ya man.
Look I finished FMAB 2 years ago and I almost Loved everything about it. But people who are a fan of these types of series (Especially this popular) need to realize not everything stays #1 forever theirs gonna be one series that overtops it and that's ok, also I would love to see you talk about Denzel he's one of my favorite rappers too.
If I, as a fan of the Boruto, were to get tilted at every person who says it's bad, I would legitimately have a stroke. Not that it doesn't bother me, because I see it, and us Boruto fans get a whole lot more hate than deserved, but Jesus. Sometimes you just gotta let shit go.
That part about people removing parts from stories to say it's bad is so true. Like imagine telling a chef "this burger is terrible because it wouldn't even be a burger without the buns!" Like no shit, if you remove something good from a good story, it's not going to be as good anymore
Yo masked I wonder if you have ever watched avatar the last airbender I know its not technically anime but I would like to hear your thoughts on the show
Hey Masked I would love to see you make a video about Psycho Pass (Season One). I feel like this is an anime you'll be thinking of two weeks after you've finished the first season. A really great commentary on politics and just society in general. Keep up the great work as usual
Many of These people are either insecure or just want to follow the sheep,the same thing happens with video games when the dude doesn't have a counter argument against you constructive critizism he drops the reviews card which is dumb because many movies have objective flaws that a review didn't cover also a good Score doesn't mean perfection
My favorite anime and manga of all time is One piece, and i have been in MANY debates about the quality of many different anime and manga series. I have seen sooooo many toxic, close minded, childish and annoying people and fans of all sorts of series, INCLUDING One piece, that i stoped care about it. All i want is enjoy thees series the way they are without being constantly told that: an anime is trash, or has bad animation, or has an unfitting ending and bla bla bla.
I actually feel jealous. Other fandoms can combine their power to work together. HxH fandom in the other hand, TT is just so stressed bc of the hiatus, it's almost impossible to make all the fans work together towards something lol
I recommend Masked Man, to see FullMetal Alchemist (2003) first, then watch Brotherhood. Trust me, you will appreciate it, man. I have found issues on both stories, but both shows express the same themes and ideas of the manga. I am not a huge of FullMetal Alchemist; I think it is a 7/10, in my opinion. In my outlook, the 3 best stories ever to exist is Berserk, Vinland Saga, and Vagabond. Also, I forgot the honorable mentions of Monster, and Urusawa's work. Have a good day, Masked Man; I appreciate your videos.
@@Z3ROMyth Well, I respect your opinion. I don't think FMA 2003 is perfect, neither is Brotherhood. Both suffer from writing flaws that I do have issue with. The manga is also not perfect, as well. But despite their flaws, I appreciate their existence. Also, FMA 2003 takes liberties with the story; but at the same time, it adapts most of the themes but in a different way. I appreciate 2003 and Brotherhood. Thanks for your thoughts, man
These communities are why I try to hide the fact I'm a fan of anime and manga as much as humanly possible Now I know its a vocal minority but they are definitely the most vocal part a lot of the times I find so the people outside see more of them and not the good
Def agree on you with FMAB. I like it, it's quite good, tho I've fallen out of love with it over the years. I wouldn't call it overrated as I feel like that's such a hollow statement, but the fandom's undying adoration for it does get under my skin. It's treated like it's the word of god for anime
2:50 This is so true. For One Piece they tend to put certain series against each other on a scale, let’s say, instead of on the steps of a staircase. The staircase can go on forever, having many steps going both up and down. You can have one show be your absolute favorite but there could always be room for another series on the step above it. What tends to happen with talks about One Piece is whenever an individual has a series as their top they always bring up One Piece with it, saying stuff like “Mid Piece” or whatever. Like why? This happens all the time on TikTok but I have I feeling it’s not the only place this sort of thing happens. You have no reason putting two series on a scale and while praising one of them, you downplay the other show on the scale. Just put them on a step and LET IT GO.
As someone from the fmab fandom, I apologize for people like that lmao 😭 like bro just have your own opinion??? How can you be so mad at a LIST??? I had no idea some fans were like that 😂
1. Don't go on twitter EVER and the mha fandom, especially on twitter makes my head hurt. But yes it gets very toxic very quickly which really fucking sucks a lot.
It's very ironic the fact that the mal community can't understand the personal preferences of a "MY anime list" (expecially the Jojo community), I loved the manga of fma and I think that the series is a good adaptation but I Always roll my eyes every time I hear "it's impossible to not like it"
It may sound strange, but aren't JoJo fans focused more on making memes and talking about how gay their favorite story is than arguing with others which manga / anime is better? I don't know what's going on on "My Anime List" or other sites like that, but in the rest of the internet they usually don't care if someone tells them JoJo sucks (at least from what I noticed). Well, they will probably even answer something like: Yes, JoJo "sucks" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°), and then go back to making Shitpost memes.
@@raxxos1194 I don't know if I was just unlucky or something but, for me it was NOT like that. Last time I said something even remotely negative about Jojo I was arrassed mentally and fiscally. Do you know Charlie (penguinz0)? Some year ago he mentioned for a brief moment, during one of his stream, how he didn't like part 3 and 4 as much as part 1 and 2, and Twitter fucking exploded and people made fun of him for weeks. To this day after years have passed there is people making fun for his "bad take". The worst thing that could happen to a person in the anime community is not being obsessed with the most popular show, also that why I stopped watching at reviews.
@@lorenzolombardi3369 What you said is a little disturbing. It's hard for me to believe it, because I found this fandom to be one of the less toxic because of their lack of interest in the opinions of others. Well, thanks to you I will know to be careful when saying anything about another manga / anime, even if I find the audience quite friendly.
This video definitely hit the nail on the head in regards to the current discourse in the anime/manga community. Most conclusions I see now about an anime or manga are either “this series is trash” (or “this series is mid” to get the same sentiments across while sounding less aggressive) or “this series is the GOAT” and they almost seem reactionary towards each other. It’s honestly gotten annoying and I think it’s a product of the hype culture that we’ve built up over the years. But like, I just want to read my fourth wall breaking comedy manga about a guy in happy relationship with 100 girlfriends who are all cool with the harem in peace. I don’t need someone coming in and telling me why Attack on Titan is a far superior manga because of how it has deeper themes, or that Fate is a better series because it has individual variations for all the girls from 18 new universes added in the exclusive Samsung smart fridge gacha game which is now canon. I don’t care.
Fullmetal Alchemist is my favorite anime cause it literally suited me personally i love everything abt it but i don't care if people don't like it, people gotta chill lol
I do believe that fmab definitely deserves the no.1 spot, it's an amazing story. Like even if it's not my personal favourite, I would definitely rate it higher than my personal favourite animes. But yeah being petty about it isn't the way.
I have witnessed multiple times how a show managed to get past FMAB in fruits baskets, Gintama 2015, steins gate, and AoT and immediately went a few places down after less than one day. Granted in AoT‘s case for its final season people were spam voting 10s after just the first episode aired so I get that but for the others, just …. Why. I mean I personally don’t very much care for MALs tops anyway because a lot of my favorites rank nowhere near it and stand at some ratings between 7.4 - 7.9 (seriously try watching some in that span, you’ll find TONS of hidden gems) j but every time I see stuff like that I just have to facepalm, like just stop.
@@Ash_Wen-li yup have a lot of those in my top 25-30-ish, even among my top 10, my number 5 literally has a rating of 7.4 (Shinreigari) and I found another one this week that had I think a 7.7 in Humanity has declined. Sadly, there are no translated light novel volumes for that and since i don’t know Japanese I’ll probably never get to read the ending to that ^^
@@sabagahara I mean I never said it wasn’t, one of those 10s is from me. And I was more so talking about Gintama‘s 2015 season with which this also happened a while back when I first got into anime
I love how your makin a video about denzel. I went to one of his shows before he hit his fame drive and got to talk to him for a few hours after his show. He was high as hell on acid and a absolute blast. Told him id make a song with him hone day. Hope id be able to still hold up that deal.
I actually recently started reading fma (after checking out the original anime + brotherhood a while back) and genuinely love the manga so much more, don’t rly understand why ppl hold the anime so much higher
5:32 YOOOOOO BLUE PERIOD!!!! I wanna know your thoughts on the manga of Blue Period and maybe 3-gatsu no Lion if you haven't said anything about them yet. Great video btw.
Faxxxx. All of the things u just said I've actually experience them all and got tired arguing with all the bs, well mostly cause I dont know what words to use properly to rebut them and my lack of vocabulary so I just ignored it
I take the stuff I like way to personally. So when people say they don't like "said thing" I feel like shit. So videos like this are a good example of how you shouldn't invest so much of your self into the art you enjoy. Just wish I was better at catching myself and doing something more "productive." Edit: Sorry, I meant to proof read this, but missed a typo that made me sound very stupid.
"the most insecure fandom" omg you took it out of my mouth. if Im gonna see someone say "if you dont like anime you probably never watched any" I will die inside
FMAB is my third favorite anime of all time. A show that shaped my taste and will always be one of my favorites. Myanimelist community fucking sucks. If you care too much about rankings, then I suggest you shift to Anilist.
I really enjoyed this video. I've heard some of these points before and I still don't get why someone would try to hate or devalue someone opinion or even a series. Although I was baffled at one point I didn't think people went this far. Video idea: Your top five manga that don't have a anime or good anime adaptation Your favorite side characters from both anime and manga Characters that you feel are underrated Hoe about ranking your favorite manga or anime from genre. Like your favorite horror manga, shonen etc.
I think the biggest problem with anime fandoms IN THE US is the art police. I remember when Horikoshi got death threats for drawing the girls in bikinis or when mappa changed the animation style on AOT. We need to stop the art police!
Excellent video, agree with the major points. I enjoy FMAB a lot but don't consider it to be the best anime nor do I care if another anime tops on mal. Many years ago Gintama was the highest-rated anime on Mal so this is not a new concept. I have discussed the other idea with friends of mind of hating an anime simply because it's popular. You should always watch the show first before coming to a conclusion. And when doing that I would advise going into the show with the intent to not outright hated. So many people do this and it results in some of the most annoying nitpicks. I never understood the complaints on AOT the entire story was brilliantly crafted. Yes, the ending was divisive but that doesn't mean the rest of the story is crap nor does it mean that the creator is either.
I would definitely watch that Denzel Curry video. I’ve noticed we listen to a lot of the same music cause I always see you in the comments of people I listen to
It’s kinda sad that they take a rank on myanimelist so seriously just because something is number 1 doesn’t make it objectively better. Its like taking rotten tomatoes seriously, and rotten tomatoes rank star wars last jedi higher than return of the jedi so just because fruit basket is above fullmetal doesn’t mean it’s objectively better because if that’s the case then last jedi is a masterpiece because rotten tomatoes said so.
I definitely agree with your points here Masked. Any series is gonna have issues that people may or may not like. The problem especially since 2012 I've noticed is people generalizing when others say they don't like something. Like seriously just like whatever you want who cares whether or not someone else likes or dislikes what you do. With you reading certain American comics Masked such as Spawn have you considered checking out any Star Wars Dark Horse comics. I think you'd enjoy Crimson Empire or Purge considering your taste.
“They’re like Silent Toxic, I don’t if that’s a thing”
You’re looking for Passive Aggressive
Maybe Concealed Agressive?
I think it’s also like they talk shit about it between themselves but don’t make it too public
Pretty interesting people going crazy
Bro the FMAB community is just silent. Dead af community
“Take away an important character in a story and it isn’t the same story anymore.”
Can I double subscribe after that fact of a statement?
L in death note
Gus from berk??
@@wynsonrao5177 *Gut from Berk
@@berk6413 gu from ber
sounds like berserk
I hold FMAB to a high standard myself but what the fandom do is petty ngl
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I really can't understand the people who thinks fullmetal the best anime of all times , like its not even close , its just a decent shounen anime
I don't get the hype for FMAB, I mean it's a solid anime but I don't think it's even top 10, it pales in comparison to other series e.g. Monster, LOGH, Steins gate, Bebop etc.
@@kingdoom5022 it’s one of but not THE best as there are anime/manga better
I was just talking about this with a friend earlier today, but it really annoys me how people treat the MAL rankings. They act as if it's a joke, but then their favourite series gets into the Top 3 and they become toxic elitists who belittle everyone "below" them.
Same goes for the ones already in the top spots, calling it "defending their throne." Like, guys, it's a ranking website, and an anime one no less. Don't get so worked up, you feel me?
It's not like MAL is the most credible site either. How many people have watched FMAB for example that don't use MAL? The people that don't like a given series would probably not go out of their way to go rate it on a website.
@@rainer9931 I would say MAL is "the most credible" even though it doesn't have the absolute truth, sometimes you agree with the scores, sometimes you don't, but the problem here is the toxic fandoms, *not the site.*
Other person could say, use IMDB then, but, IMDB for anime? We all know it is not a page aimed for anime.
The same I could say with IMDB, what if someone didn't like Breaking Bad? and because of that, that person didn't score it. Not because of that the site would lose credibility.
@@carlosdanielcalderonmontoy3723 yeah there are alot of people that use MAL and IMDB and stuff but like. As much as TH-cam? Na. Definitely not enough to the point where it actually matters, which I am thankful for.. And we can talk about actual toxic fandoms for a good long while, but thats not what what this specific comment was about so I didn't wanna mention it
I always thought MAL was super wrong so I don’t really ever pay attention to it lol. FMAB is actually the only one in the top 10 that I really really enjoy.
@@InsertUsernameHere_a when I see one of those reviews giving a good anime a score of 1 or 2, I am like, wtf, are you really serious? That is too exaggerate xd
I love FMAB, but the fact that the fans go out of their way to give series like Gintama, Fruits Basket and AoT a 1 rating just to keep their favorite anime at the #1 spot is just pathetic. Who fucking cares what's at the top of the list. What matters is what YOU rate the show.
Exactly
Mal is full of pathetic elitists. One time I saw someone give berserk and vagabond an 8 and a 7 because none of the characters were well written. No reason or anything, just badly written.
@@mimijeet9921 I don't even read those but who tf even does that
Gintama top 1*
speaking facts
I don't know man, take away the boats in One Piece and it's just a bunch of people drowning
Yeah take the ground haha
This kinda tells how One Piece doesn't have 'one' pivotal component to it, does it? One big reason why it's a great series!
@@Himeka868 take oda out of one piece and one piece is not so good, take that
@@naveenbattula son of gun
@@naveenbattula holy shit you’re right
"Take away boats from one piece and one piece isn't as good" the perfect example to show how stupid some takes can be
Take away someones head and they won't be as good
The internet is full of many bullshit arguments and discussions This is why i prefer to avoid forums,i only use my anime list to add and track some anime
It would be none piece after that lol
@@blackcatpirates8134 what piece
@@g4fly4ever8 where piece?
8:26 “you can’t just take away an arc that the author was leading up to”
Promise Neverland: *sweats profusely*
exactly, it literally missed out like over a hundred chapter's worth of content and they put a slideshow including the main character meeting GOD as a still frame for 7 seconds🤣
Regarding the thumbnail, I'm curious about what MAL's top 10 would actually be if 1 bombing wasn't a thing
I dont think it would be much different but FMAB would probably be a few places lower
anime top 10 or manga top 10?
@@jojonta2119 Yeah, I think the approximate top 10 would be similar but the order would change a lot
@@kingaskeladd5052 Anime. I haven't checked the stats for manga so I don't know if manga get 1 bombed like anime do
Gintama would be even more dominant.
"Imagine if there weren't titans in Attack on titan"
🤣🤣it would be total trash :v
"It wouldn't be as good. That just shows how mid the show is."
"Take away Naruto from Naruto and Naruto ain't as good"
@@jaja. Nah it would just be " " then
Not gonna lie I want to see Attack on ___________
The anime community in general is just unbearable, imho.
Yes. You're unbearable
It actually screams lack of outside life interactions. That’s why I haven’t ventured into anime Twitter at all. A lot of these dudes are just straight weirdos, that’s why I don’t talk about anime with any anime watchers other than the people in my small friend group.😂
@@luizy6701 and you
@@bigsmall2842 dude a few days ago i literally saw a kind of human being i thought was only a joke made up by the internet but holy sht. I saw the guy in some weeb shop i went to with a friend when we were in a dif town and he was like looking at manga stuff on a shelf while like 3 overweight girls were talking on the other side of it and he just straight up commented on the sht they were saying but gladly he was silent enough that they couldnt hear him because it was prob the unfuniest sht ive ever heard so that day i swore to never get into any anime related community ever again because holy fk that dude was degenerate
I think you guys are in a dire need of an actual life and communication experience, or else you wouldn't say some of the stupidest shit to ever be written. Every fandom consists of people, duh, the same species we all belong to, there isn't a fandom that consists of a special breed, a breed that is different from other people, that is entirely toxic, or entirely weird...etc. Anything you said about the anime community can be said about any other community; the comic community, the gaming community or whatever community, they all contain people and they all have good and bad people
I dont listen too often, but DEFINITELY interested in a Denzel Curry doc.
Same, the dude really is a talented rapper.
Denzel is one of the best rappers out there
One of the best out of new gen definitely
Denzel curry vengeance fits so well with musst fighting manga or action
Actualy almost any genre
PLEASE
A good story is satisfying to read because of the plethora of interesting and well written characters.
Saying that only one character or a specific team of characters carry the show is a little bit of an exaggeration ..
While the truth is every character has an important role in a story. Even characters that were present for 10 chapters or so but their small time spend with the protagonist
Helped to further develop the protagonist as a character meaning that their presence were important..
To sum it up i just wanna say that removing a single character or arc from a story will definitely make the story completely different and it will most likely lose its balance
yeah but it's annoying to see people say Askeladd carried the Vinland Saga anime, like what they don't get that he is the main character of just that season, of the prologue arc, Thorfinn isn't, but there are other well written characters in it, e.g. Canute, Thorkell, Thors, that drunk priest, Thorfinn etc. Sure Askeladd was the best character by far and he stood out more but what I mean is if you take out Askeladd from the story, it doesn't make the story completely different, it makes it become non existent. You cannot remove Askeladd from the story since he is an integral character. So many dumb people out there. Moreover, many people shit on Thorfinn in this arc and find him unbearably annoying, heavily unlikeable, and I'm like that's the point, he's not meant to be likeable but that doesn't make him badly written at all.
Not always true.
For example tenten.
You could take her out of the story and replace her with generic anime girl and the end result wouldn’t change at all.
This is why I’m so disappointed in her.
She had a great concept, weapons master but no screen time, no actual feats and no actual relevance.
Nah
@@GodlyDra nah, her part might not be so important, but their are plot threads that are written and went down because Tenten is Tenten.
Like it won't make sense if a generic character picked up that special weapon thing during the war and suddenly know how to use it. Like the plot needed someone to use that weapon and of course that is where Tenten is used for. Even if you magically replace Tenten in thatt situation, the character that will only suit to replace her part shall be in the end is like a ninja weapon specialist. In short a Tenten 2.0.
@@Snzn_7
She used the special weapon? I honestly don’t even remember that, just goes too show how irrelevant it was.
"That's why your parents are divorced."
That had me rolling. 😂
FMAB (the English Dub) is amazing, but I agree that people on MAL shouldn't be review bombing other series just because it may surpass it 💯.
I love the dub, like vic was the perfect voice for Ed but The sub is still really great. Just fmab dub just mostly agreed to be superior.
I love the sub much more, as it didn't spoonfeed me every single detail as the dub did. I do however really like the dub too, and I think they made an incredible effort even if it didn't live up to the original.
@@hououinkyouma3864 to me its more about what voice fits the characters. something about the dub cast feels perfect for each character
You can’t take away Gaston from Berserk, because he is a good boy who wanted to open a clothing shop and live a simple life and who was a Chad like the rest of the Hawks.
You can´t take away Donovan from Berserk, because-
@@MrTigracho donovan did nothing wrong ✊💯
Gaston attack Gatsu and basically he is the reason Berserk exist :)
exept Griffith
@@ednoisedem that's corkus, they're look alike
I really respect the fact that you said that there are similar people on berserk as there is to fmab, that they can't accept that people have different taste, it is something i have seen lately "oh whatever you are reading now, berserk is better on 5 different levels" for example Not many people today would say that about the fandom of their favorite medium when talking about others mediums faults!
Iirc Berserk fans did 1 bomb Frieren whe it overtook berserk on Mangadex
What's the point in reading berserk or any other manga if you cant lord it over people as you read the most elite of manga.? Lol I'm kidding obviously.
Honestly the anime and manga community has a lot in common with rick and Morty at its peak.... and obviously this isn't everyone.
But I feel the rick and morty copypasta of "you have to have a very high IQ to enjoy rick and morty" could be read as "you have to have a very high IQ to enjoy berserk"
Its just gatekeeping and people getting too fanboy about something. Tale as old as time.
Kinda depressing but the community means nothing it's just people who like a show. Enjoy what you like and try to enjoy things.
But people are looking for validation in what shows they watch now lol.
Yeah lol I hate that, if you tell a Berserk fan that it’s not the best thing you’ve read or your favorite story they’ll react so childishly about your taste; I love Berserk but it’s okay that it’s not my favorite
@@tdotitan8855 ngl, I see more of those kinda elistists on IPs that either have one of those dark elements, one with meta-writing style/metafictional genre(eg: your example rick and morty)or any IPs that have an unconventional narrative structure that still managed to be critically acclaimed
@@kennethmendoza1350 i think a part of it is that by there very nature berserk or rick and morty wont be as popular as lets say pokemon because of the audience and the aformed dark elements. And because it isnt that popular people think its special because its unique.
So they feel they have to "convince people" that its worth it, and also to validate spending time on it, i mean i wonder how many berserk fans found it by chance and how many did by being told its super awesome and makes you a "true" anime fan. or something like that.
Nothing new. but yeah i have found myself falling prey to it in the past and try to be better, now i just dont care lol, maybe thats growing up, maybe its the fact that i dont have a youtube channel where my jobs is to hype something up.
But i mean its also just people on the internet, nothing new.
FMAB is for sure one of my favorites but I completely disagree with what the fandom does to keep it number 1 the only placement that should matter to you is yours… I also really don’t like the word mid and overrated
Whenever someone uses the word "mid" it makes me wanna kill myself.
What even is mid, it kinda completely lost its meaning over time
And the word overrated is completely overrated itself xD
Mid and overrated are two words that elitists use way too much. It's like how SJWs use the same racist, sexcist, homophobic excuses. They just say that "this series is mid" or "this series is overrated" just to start an argument and to push an agenda
Tbh it's not the fandom as a whole it's just the part of the fandom who reside in mal and that's true for pretty much every series I've seen the fandoms are pretty much completely different from the people who use mal
@@kenanbroersma709 no no u don't wanna do that now😔
Tbh I think mal as a free service for keeping track of anime is nice but the rankings and the community are toxic af.
Pretty much. It's best use is organising what you watch and keeping up with seasonals
It’s a nice info base too for looking up where you heard certain voice actors before. And I’m actually guilty of watching some shows just because it had a top tier cast of voice actors (like Bungou stray dogs or Durarara, which both ended up among my favorites) ^^
I mostly use it to keep track of the anime I watch and to look at what new anime to look forward to but I must say people on MAL are basically like people on Twitter. I mean just look at every anime reviews on that site, like seriously their takes are terrible
@@christianthelaidbackcampfan To be fair I dont care that much about shit takes but yeah I hate the guys
I am a MASSIVE FMA fan, I first watched FMAB when I was 12/13 years old, and it was honestly the first anime that really had an emotional impact on me and stuck with me till this day, part of the reason I think it had such a big impact on me is because during this weird and transitional period of my life, it was one of the very few pieces of media that treated me like an adult. It is easily my favourite anime of all time, and it disappoints me to no end to see people who seemingly love this show as much as I do, and are as passionate about it as I am, act so childishly towards others who don’t share the same opinion about it. It almost makes me ashamed to be a fan of the series when I see how these “real fans” treat other anime’s and their communities.
That's why I never felt part of the anime community,they take everything as a personal attack when you criticize their favorite or tell it's not your thing.Guys,chill out,just because I don't like something you love doesn't mean I consider it trash that offers nothing good on the medium it represents.Also,the majority loves the things I don't enjoy or love so congratulations,you win and I lose.At the end of the day,it all comes down to personal preference.After all,art is subjective.
Note:By no means I mean every anime fan is toxic.I have seen many comment threads that had a very calm and mature discussion when criticizing or disagreeing with something without resorting to insults or threats.
Yeah I know that feel. I have a lot of hot takes about universally loved shows or about some shows people don’t like that are part of my favorites and a good amount of times mentioning that when asked I feel like I’m entering a war zone
@@animusswtor4822 I'm not good at giving advices but I suggest you avoid confronting any idiot who tells you to think otherwise.I once had fallen into that trap and believed my preferences are wrong till I matured enough to realize liking or disliking something for any reason isn't something to be ashamed or afraid of just because the majority loves or hates it.
Same bro, I just consume anime and manga and watch some of my fav anime you tubers, outside of that nah I’m good
@@alexstergiou247 I had that at the beginning of this year where some idiot in an argument asked for my top 20-ish and completely tore it to bits and posted me his „100% objectively correct“ list in return. Granted there were some good shows on there i didn’t know before but the worst part was that literally half of our lists were the same just in a different order and yet he played the superior clown….
@@animusswtor4822 Don't feed the trolls man.They believe their thing is superior due to popularity and sales most of the times.
Denzel Curry is an outstanding Hip Hop Artist👍Everything he drops is amazing
@Jesus Pernia I wouldn't say that Ta13oo is better than Tpab but I think Ta13oo is denzel's best record and it's amazing but not as good as Tpab
I feel bad because I didn't hear about him until now...
@Jesus Pernia ehhhh I wouldn't put taboo over tpab or mbdtf but almost all his music is pretty quality, yeah, I love his music, him and JID are a fire combo
im super down for some denzel appreciation, dudes a beast and his album is gonna slap
Im a die hard one piece fan, and I'm fine with people saying it's boring. The same thing with any anime I like, AoT, FMAB, etc. I don't enjoy AoT anymore, BUT i can admit it was well written for 90% of it. I liked the ending, but I didn't really enjoy the anime past season 3. Im good with that, most people should be, the issue is when people consider something bad for superficial reasons and think they're objective. You can be bored by Code Geass, One Piece, Fmab, AoT, MHA, idc; but as soon as you start hating on the writing without any genuine reasoning then you should keep your mouth shut. If you can create genuine criticisms, though, for example: One Piece's lack of death, I'm happy to accept that. I can admit every story has it's flaws, and I think that's a good thing to point out, but that doesn't mean that One Piece is "mid." writing wise, one piece is nearly perfect, in my opinion, but if people can point out flaws I am one hundred percent down to accept that. Just stop acting like how much you enjoy an anime means that its bad or good. You need substance
Yeah, we just have to respect other people's opinion, it is not that hard😪😕
Bro where are you finding people criticizing one piece
Genuine question
@@mario-oc2if all over instagram and social media. I see constant hate for it, especially because the fandom is kinda ass
Don't get me started on those FUCKING seinen dickriders that hate on anything that is not Berserk or Vagabond. Just because they like a dark and mature story, they think everything else is so far beneath them. Like as if they can do a better job of writing a series. It's ok to dislike a series but there's no need to make people feel like they are stupid for liking it.
Respectfully disagreeing on a subjective case SHOULD be a given but...
Relying on Mal Is one of the dumbest things you can do when it comes to being an anime fan
Somebody in the anime community pointing out the sexualizing of minors in fandom art.
Dear gawd, there is hope yet.
Completely agree with your main point too. I think it stems from people putting their whole identity into certain shows, and feel personally attacked when people point out the problems in that assumed identity.
I said the Lion King remake wasn't very enjoyable to this girl when I was in college and she was like "You can't imagine how hard that must have been, could you do any better?" Like....no? Because I'm not being given a multi-million dollar budget to do it at all. Some people always jump to defend anything that's criticised with aggression, I didnt even say anything bad
I'm scared to watch the remake but I'm interested to see what they did with the lion king. I will always prefer the original movie because I grew up with it. I used to watch it constantly on VHS as a kid. But I also feel nostalgic for the original 101 dalmatians and it's live action counterpart for the exact same reason. It's just a matter of opinion and theres no need to get riled up about it.
As part of the FMA fan I 100% agree with this video. Lol no one believes me when I say FMA fans are toxic. They are…I’ve seen it 😂
They weren't around for the Risembool Rangers v Miniskirt Army slapfights, obviously.
I'm a massive Denzel Curry fan myself. Ta13oo is one of the few albums i've heard, that doesn't have a single skip on it. Really looking forward to the video
Would love to see a Fullbring Arc, TYBW, and Hell arc one shot analysis aka your indepth thoughts on the Bleach arcs or characters like Kenny, Ulquirroa, Orihime, Ichigo, Yhwach, the sternritters etc
DBZimran already covered that.
Take away Masked Mans mask and he isn’t as good
If you really want to make FMA fans crazy, start comparing the 2003 anime to the Brotherhood or the manga. You don't need to have another series rank above it for that.
As a FMA fan, I can confirm that this is true. Look, I'm gritting my teeth in anger right now!
I swear if we get people to put it above Brotherhood I would laugh
Way better brotherhood sucks
FMA:B still top tier to me after all these years. Tried to show it to my friend and it didn’t grip her; showed her Beastars and she loved it. It is what it is.
As a side note trash talking a series is only fun when you do it with your mates as friendly banter. Taking it so seriously just means you need you probably need to work on social and communication skills
him: take away the Akatsuki and Naruto would be bad. take away the Espada and Bleach would be bad.
Me: thinking he would go with the warlord for one piece.
him: take away the boats from one piece
Lol
“Heated talks if you wanna call them that”
Yeah I call them deathmatches
Totally hyped for the Denzel video!
A small part of MAL community is just like that. I know you said you knew that "every fandom does that", but I am still going to talk about this point. The fandom is pretty inactive since well it aired 12 years ago and hasn't had anything new (probably won't). It's true that many anime get review bombed when they get into the top, we have seen this recently. Yet everyone blames only and mainly FMAB fandom, they mostly don't even mention other anime fandom (maybe AoT but that's it). I have seen how toxic the other fandom are maybe even more than FMAB fandom itself, many insults to FMA and people saying overrated (we can see many examples in this comments section), memes and useless posts raging, encouraging others to review bomb FMAB as payback. Last time I checked the stats of FMAB (about july) it had 19k 1s, and now it has 22k. That's a 3k growth in a few months of a somewhat old anime. Yeah, when checking the stats of other anime we have seen FMAB fans and other anime fans. But we cannot really blame the fandom, it's really vague, one could be using bots, and people would think that it's the whole fandom doing this. I would even say FMAB is mostly a chill fandom, they receive criticism well, they know that people can like other things more. Why do I say this? Well, I've checked forums in MAL, the subreddit r/fullmetalalchemist (the latter is really great). I don't like to compare it with other anime, but I've seen other fandoms many times more obsessed with scores and they collectively trash on other anime and its fandom.
My advice would be just to not care too much about stats, ignore the fandom when watching something.
Lol
Buen comentario
Totally agree .
Why can't we get past the whole "they don't like what I like, how I like it. Ree!" reaction. I mean come on. Let's just be mature and breathe.
Another great video Masked. As always. Love ya man.
This video should be named "spitting facts" ngl 🤝💯
Look I finished FMAB 2 years ago and I almost Loved everything about it. But people who are a fan of these types of series (Especially this popular) need to realize not everything stays #1 forever theirs gonna be one series that overtops it and that's ok, also I would love to see you talk about Denzel he's one of my favorite rappers too.
It made me so happy to see Gintama The Final at the top on MAL
That happiness was short lived
If I, as a fan of the Boruto, were to get tilted at every person who says it's bad, I would legitimately have a stroke. Not that it doesn't bother me, because I see it, and us Boruto fans get a whole lot more hate than deserved, but Jesus. Sometimes you just gotta let shit go.
You ever been on the boruto reddit? It's a wasteland
That part about people removing parts from stories to say it's bad is so true.
Like imagine telling a chef "this burger is terrible because it wouldn't even be a burger without the buns!"
Like no shit, if you remove something good from a good story, it's not going to be as good anymore
“Do not pray for easier lives....pray to be stronger men.”
-kentaro miura
Yo masked I wonder if you have ever watched avatar the last airbender I know its not technically anime but I would like to hear your thoughts on the show
I agree, that would make for an interesting review.
Same
He has. He made a video about it like a year ago
@@itz_missy2061 i can't find the video though
Sigma tier show
Yooooo! “Listen here Thanos” had me dying 😂😂🤣😂😂
Hey Masked I would love to see you make a video about Psycho Pass (Season One). I feel like this is an anime you'll be thinking of two weeks after you've finished the first season. A really great commentary on politics and just society in general. Keep up the great work as usual
The “BOATS” in One Piece.
I can't believe people bring up Mal ratings when defending a series.
I’ve seen people use Rotten Tomatoes ratings as a defense against criticism over a movie
@@Santoryu90 I've seen that too. Those people just be dumb to state actual reasons
Many of These people are either insecure or just want to follow the sheep,the same thing happens with video games when the dude doesn't have a counter argument against you constructive critizism he drops the reviews card which is dumb because many movies have objective flaws that a review didn't cover also a good Score doesn't mean perfection
I bring up MAL ratings when discussing the popularity of a certain series
that is how i defend Made in Abyss
My favorite anime and manga of all time is One piece, and i have been in MANY debates about the quality of many different anime and manga series. I have seen sooooo many toxic, close minded, childish and annoying people and fans of all sorts of series, INCLUDING One piece, that i stoped care about it.
All i want is enjoy thees series the way they are without being constantly told that: an anime is trash, or has bad animation, or has an unfitting ending and bla bla bla.
I actually feel jealous. Other fandoms can combine their power to work together. HxH fandom in the other hand, TT is just so stressed bc of the hiatus, it's almost impossible to make all the fans work together towards something lol
8:49 the boats in one piece brO 😂 idk why that hit me so hard but it did omg
I recommend Masked Man, to see FullMetal Alchemist (2003) first, then watch Brotherhood. Trust me, you will appreciate it, man. I have found issues on both stories, but both shows express the same themes and ideas of the manga. I am not a huge of FullMetal Alchemist; I think it is a 7/10, in my opinion. In my outlook, the 3 best stories ever to exist is Berserk, Vinland Saga, and Vagabond. Also, I forgot the honorable mentions of Monster, and Urusawa's work. Have a good day, Masked Man; I appreciate your videos.
FMA 2003 is so underappreciated
@@justtheguywiththewavecheck6244 Yeah, I understand that. It is underappreciated for no reason whatsoever.
FMA 2003 is trash compared to FMA Brotherhood, Brotherhood adapts the entire manga, where as FMA doesn't.
At least the island training part
@@Z3ROMyth Well, I respect your opinion. I don't think FMA 2003 is perfect, neither is Brotherhood. Both suffer from writing flaws that I do have issue with. The manga is also not perfect, as well. But despite their flaws, I appreciate their existence. Also, FMA 2003 takes liberties with the story; but at the same time, it adapts most of the themes but in a different way. I appreciate 2003 and Brotherhood. Thanks for your thoughts, man
These communities are why I try to hide the fact I'm a fan of anime and manga as much as humanly possible
Now I know its a vocal minority but they are definitely the most vocal part a lot of the times I find so the people outside see more of them and not the good
People like different things such a revolutionary idea XD also I'd watch your take on anything cause I like seeing different perspectives regardless
Def agree on you with FMAB. I like it, it's quite good, tho I've fallen out of love with it over the years. I wouldn't call it overrated as I feel like that's such a hollow statement, but the fandom's undying adoration for it does get under my skin. It's treated like it's the word of god for anime
Not to mention all those crazies who ship Ed with Roy. Cracka damn.
Gintama should be the number 1, but Go to hell popularity poll !! Lol
Love Denzel too. Pls make more videos on your music taste. I would also definitely recommend the new Injury reserve record .
This man really just roasted the entire anime community for 12 minutes straight lmao, respect to you honestly
My man giving me nostalgia blast with the Chrono trigger music 😀
Love the improved production♥️
I would love a video about Denzel! Hugely underrated artist!
Thanks for reminding me of the time I failed that test in fourth grade and my teacher told me "this is why your parents are divorced."
FMAB* fandom always getting trolled by the Gintama fans, as Gintama has like 10 different series because of the name. LOL
Famb😞? Full alchemist metal brotherhood😂😂😂😂😂
@@bastardbastard4998lol an honest typo!!
@@Ebrahim_17 no worries 😆✌
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This is so true. For One Piece they tend to put certain series against each other on a scale, let’s say, instead of on the steps of a staircase. The staircase can go on forever, having many steps going both up and down. You can have one show be your absolute favorite but there could always be room for another series on the step above it. What tends to happen with talks about One Piece is whenever an individual has a series as their top they always bring up One Piece with it, saying stuff like “Mid Piece” or whatever. Like why? This happens all the time on TikTok but I have I feeling it’s not the only place this sort of thing happens. You have no reason putting two series on a scale and while praising one of them, you downplay the other show on the scale. Just put them on a step and LET IT GO.
As someone from the fmab fandom, I apologize for people like that lmao 😭 like bro just have your own opinion??? How can you be so mad at a LIST??? I had no idea some fans were like that 😂
1. Don't go on twitter EVER and the mha fandom, especially on twitter makes my head hurt. But yes it gets very toxic very quickly which really fucking sucks a lot.
It's very ironic the fact that the mal community can't understand the personal preferences of a "MY anime list" (expecially the Jojo community), I loved the manga of fma and I think that the series is a good adaptation but I Always roll my eyes every time I hear "it's impossible to not like it"
It may sound strange, but aren't JoJo fans focused more on making memes and talking about how gay their favorite story is than arguing with others which manga / anime is better? I don't know what's going on on "My Anime List" or other sites like that, but in the rest of the internet they usually don't care if someone tells them JoJo sucks (at least from what I noticed). Well, they will probably even answer something like: Yes, JoJo "sucks" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°), and then go back to making Shitpost memes.
@@raxxos1194 I don't know if I was just unlucky or something but, for me it was NOT like that. Last time I said something even remotely negative about Jojo I was arrassed mentally and fiscally.
Do you know Charlie (penguinz0)? Some year ago he mentioned for a brief moment, during one of his stream, how he didn't like part 3 and 4 as much as part 1 and 2, and Twitter fucking exploded and people made fun of him for weeks. To this day after years have passed there is people making fun for his "bad take".
The worst thing that could happen to a person in the anime community is not being obsessed with the most popular show, also that why I stopped watching at reviews.
@@lorenzolombardi3369 What you said is a little disturbing. It's hard for me to believe it, because I found this fandom to be one of the less toxic because of their lack of interest in the opinions of others. Well, thanks to you I will know to be careful when saying anything about another manga / anime, even if I find the audience quite friendly.
@@raxxos1194 hey meaby my personal experience was just bad luck, but as far as I know Charlie"s story is true. Anyway have a good say sir
This video definitely hit the nail on the head in regards to the current discourse in the anime/manga community. Most conclusions I see now about an anime or manga are either “this series is trash” (or “this series is mid” to get the same sentiments across while sounding less aggressive) or “this series is the GOAT” and they almost seem reactionary towards each other. It’s honestly gotten annoying and I think it’s a product of the hype culture that we’ve built up over the years. But like, I just want to read my fourth wall breaking comedy manga about a guy in happy relationship with 100 girlfriends who are all cool with the harem in peace. I don’t need someone coming in and telling me why Attack on Titan is a far superior manga because of how it has deeper themes, or that Fate is a better series because it has individual variations for all the girls from 18 new universes added in the exclusive Samsung smart fridge gacha game which is now canon. I don’t care.
Fullmetal Alchemist is my favorite anime cause it literally suited me personally i love everything abt it but i don't care if people don't like it, people gotta chill lol
But the Real problem is
The peoples call fmab: "Overrated or mid" without good Argument
I do believe that fmab definitely deserves the no.1 spot, it's an amazing story. Like even if it's not my personal favourite, I would definitely rate it higher than my personal favourite animes. But yeah being petty about it isn't the way.
I haven’t listened to Denzel curry in like 7 months but he’s good. I was listening to him back when he was friends with X
"JUST take the boats away from one piece" - Masked
written on gravestone
I have witnessed multiple times how a show managed to get past FMAB in fruits baskets, Gintama 2015, steins gate, and AoT and immediately went a few places down after less than one day.
Granted in AoT‘s case for its final season people were spam voting 10s after just the first episode aired so I get that but for the others, just …. Why.
I mean I personally don’t very much care for MALs tops anyway because a lot of my favorites rank nowhere near it and stand at some ratings between 7.4 - 7.9 (seriously try watching some in that span, you’ll find TONS of hidden gems) j but every time I see stuff like that I just have to facepalm, like just stop.
Yeah 7.4-7.9 is a good spot to find hidden gems
@@Ash_Wen-li yup have a lot of those in my top 25-30-ish, even among my top 10, my number 5 literally has a rating of 7.4 (Shinreigari) and I found another one this week that had I think a 7.7 in Humanity has declined. Sadly, there are no translated light novel volumes for that and since i don’t know Japanese I’ll probably never get to read the ending to that ^^
Gintama final was a movie so it was fair that there were a lot of 10's
@@sabagahara I mean I never said it wasn’t, one of those 10s is from me. And I was more so talking about Gintama‘s 2015 season with which this also happened a while back when I first got into anime
@@animusswtor4822 back then fmab was like fifth
Chrono Trigger music in the background 🔥
I love how your makin a video about denzel. I went to one of his shows before he hit his fame drive and got to talk to him for a few hours after his show. He was high as hell on acid and a absolute blast. Told him id make a song with him hone day. Hope id be able to still hold up that deal.
I agree so much with the point you made about FMAB. I love the series but wow some people just can't take it not being "the best".
I actually recently started reading fma (after checking out the original anime + brotherhood a while back) and genuinely love the manga so much more, don’t rly understand why ppl hold the anime so much higher
And what’s the difference between FMAB and FMA manga?
@@vaniukk3100 more time for details?
I’m a big FMAB fan, usually i stay away from fandoms in general. Mainly because of mha fandom, I’m sorry on behalf of them
5:32 YOOOOOO BLUE PERIOD!!!! I wanna know your thoughts on the manga of Blue Period and maybe 3-gatsu no Lion if you haven't said anything about them yet. Great video btw.
Faxxxx. All of the things u just said I've actually experience them all and got tired arguing with all the bs, well mostly cause I dont know what words to use properly to rebut them and my lack of vocabulary so I just ignored it
I take the stuff I like way to personally. So when people say they don't like "said thing" I feel like shit. So videos like this are a good example of how you shouldn't invest so much of your self into the art you enjoy. Just wish I was better at catching myself and doing something more "productive."
Edit: Sorry, I meant to proof read this, but missed a typo that made me sound very stupid.
I'm hyped for the Denzel Curry video.Hope you make more music related content in the future
"Doug, you're never getting that time back?" Was that a dig on the Nostalgia Critic?
6:21 to 7:53 *THIS!!!! THIS RIGHT HERE IS BASED AS BASED CAN GET*
"the most insecure fandom" omg you took it out of my mouth. if Im gonna see someone say "if you dont like anime you probably never watched any" I will die inside
I don't comment often but that denzel video is definitely something I need
FMAB is my third favorite anime of all time. A show that shaped my taste and will always be one of my favorites. Myanimelist community fucking sucks. If you care too much about rankings, then I suggest you shift to Anilist.
I really enjoyed this video. I've heard some of these points before and I still don't get why someone would try to hate or devalue someone opinion or even a series. Although I was baffled at one point I didn't think people went this far.
Video idea: Your top five manga that don't have a anime or good anime adaptation
Your favorite side characters from both anime and manga
Characters that you feel are underrated
Hoe about ranking your favorite manga or anime from genre. Like your favorite horror manga, shonen etc.
Take away the ending of AOT and it's a masterpiece
i see what you did there
aot characters are bad and there are many plotholes. i expected that the ending will make sense, explain some things and make story better..
nah, it went downhill in the final arc, there were issues before the ending.
Take away final arc and half of blatant plot with one dimensional boring characters and then Aot will be only good
@@lean768 I agree, final arc was a mess and so many characters which are one dimensional
The Denzel video sounds awesome, im hyped :)
This is exactly what happened to Gintama the final, it was top 1 but now its 17
I think the biggest problem with anime fandoms IN THE US is the art police. I remember when Horikoshi got death threats for drawing the girls in bikinis or when mappa changed the animation style on AOT. We need to stop the art police!
Taking ratings and rankings too seriously is the best way to make sure you don't have a good time watching anime.
Excellent video, agree with the major points. I enjoy FMAB a lot but don't consider it to be the best anime nor do I care if another anime tops on mal. Many years ago Gintama was the highest-rated anime on Mal so this is not a new concept. I have discussed the other idea with friends of mind of hating an anime simply because it's popular. You should always watch the show first before coming to a conclusion. And when doing that I would advise going into the show with the intent to not outright hated. So many people do this and it results in some of the most annoying nitpicks. I never understood the complaints on AOT the entire story was brilliantly crafted. Yes, the ending was divisive but that doesn't mean the rest of the story is crap nor does it mean that the creator is either.
Seeing edward in the thumbnail with MAL in his eyes is funny
I would definitely watch that Denzel Curry video. I’ve noticed we listen to a lot of the same music cause I always see you in the comments of people I listen to
Dude, i would love to hear your thoughts about Denzel! Amazing artist in my opinon
It’s kinda sad that they take a rank on myanimelist so seriously just because something is number 1 doesn’t make it objectively better. Its like taking rotten tomatoes seriously, and rotten tomatoes rank star wars last jedi higher than return of the jedi so just because fruit basket is above fullmetal doesn’t mean it’s objectively better because if that’s the case then last jedi is a masterpiece because rotten tomatoes said so.
Bro I’m telling you, take the anime out of the anime. The anime ain’t shit now
Lol take the animation
I definitely agree with your points here Masked. Any series is gonna have issues that people may or may not like. The problem especially since 2012 I've noticed is people generalizing when others say they don't like something. Like seriously just like whatever you want who cares whether or not someone else likes or dislikes what you do.
With you reading certain American comics Masked such as Spawn have you considered checking out any Star Wars Dark Horse comics. I think you'd enjoy Crimson Empire or Purge considering your taste.