Star Wars: The Warships of the CIS
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- Spacedock breaks down the fighting ships of the confederacy.
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Could you guys do a full breakdown of the subjugator class?
Can't wait for The Sojourn
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Say what you want about the Prequels, but the ships and vehicles they introduced to the Star Wars universe are superb.
Say what you want about the Sequels but they introduce absolutely nothing to the Star Wars universe.
@@zh7334 what sequels?
@@zh7334 Except for those dumb-ass bombers🤦🏽♂️
@@zh7334 The Supremacy is cool though.
Kvantovy yeah, the ships, droids, and vehicles were my favorite part.
The Lucrehulk has to be one of my favorite ships in star wars, nothin quite like fighting people with a murder donut
Thomas Kross the Inexpugnable is even more of a donut
Thomas Kross: so I take you're a fan of the unidentified derilict ships from the Alien movies?? those are murder donuts as well.....come on all those eggs with face f&&kers in em that turn people into giant skin shedding murder dogs.....LMAO well that's kinda sorta maybe what they are lolz
Battling through the massive interior of a center sphere Core Ship in Republic Commando really gave you a sense of how massive these ships were.
Sangth: yeah, republic commando was awesome, it's funny that they got away with doing a tactical shooter back then and it fit SW and the game genre....but when the talk a few years ago of a SW tactical shooter coming out before a Battlefront nobody wanted that cus the fear was it'd just be a battlefield well that's what Battlefront became LMAO damned if you do, damned if you don't but that incident should have been a wake up call that hey maybe not everyone wants endless war games???
my only gripe with Rep Com is that it needed another level....like if it ended on kashyyk then there needed to be something else before that....good game but a bit short though lol or a sequel woulda been cool, Imperial commando?? Alliance Commando??? just saying.....they coulda done a trilogy like that...
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I always liked the diversity of aesthetics in the confederate navy.
I feel like the underdogs always seem do be more diverse. The republic had like two primary warships: venators and acclamators
That’s cause unlike the republic and empire their navy was built by more than like 1-2 manufacturers
TNSN Food for thought, Rothana Heavy Engineering (the builders of the Acclimator, LAAT gunships and a few of the Republic walker designs) and KDY (the builders of the Venator and later Star Destroyers) are the same corporation (RHE being the subsidiary of KDY). KDY was owned by, at least in Legends, Techno Union (which owned just about every single company producing weaponry, fighters, bombers and warships on both sides of the Clone Wars in Legends).
Sienar Fleet Systems designed the later Star Destroyers, not KDY although KDY built them.
Evan Schultheis well technically thy were both nationlized by the empire
Soooo, the navel aspect of the Clone Wars was basically a fight between Hoersch-Kessel and Kuat Drive Yards
Pretty much lmfaoo
It was kind of an arms race.
@Sakkra101 Palpatine made it so that Kuat would side with the Republic.
No if you look at legends it is more of Hoopla pasa tisk, Hoersch-Kessel, Free Dac Voulenteers Engineering Corp and Sorosub VS KDY
Why attack Kamino? Lmao hit Kuat
It's kinda funny that the CIS was arguably the best-organized faction in all of Star Wars, at least from a military standpoint. You'd think the later Empire and First Order would have learned from that successful setup, but altered it to suit their needs.
In legends there were imperial equipment based off CIS stuff, but Kuat was quite dogmatic in its views
@@matthiuskoenig3378 weren't Gozantis CIS vessels originally?
@@elijahsellers3727, I think so but I can’t remember where I heard it.
@@elijahsellers3727 I think they were civvie ships
The separatists have the most unique ships of the star wars tbh
Say that again when you have an impenetrable wall of B1's marching towards you while a swarm of Vultures blot out the sun.
@@brokenursa9986 unique design and zerg rush aren't mutually exclusive. The zerg are a prime example themselves.
kirknay I was replying to Kacper, not the original comment.
@@brokenursa9986 oh, okay. Np.
@@cmdr_krabov it is more civilized to have machines being destroyed in battle, than to send clone slaves to fight for you.
Real warships have curves.
Jeremy A hey unsc ships dont have curves and they’re warships
Johnson Delvetto *real*
@@johnsondelvetto4387 and they were outclassed by the *real curvy* ships of the Covenant
John Wells im gonna steal your left elbow for this insult
@@johnsondelvetto4387 because it's curvy?
I'll have to say. The CIS probably has the best navy in all of star wars.
T431 agreed!
Not even close, what about the impire and their ~12 SSD's 1-2 Eclipse SSD and freckin 2 death stars?
@@davidreruk3924 Maybe not in size but quite possibly in fleet structure and specialisation
@@davidreruk3924 as was said above, the CIS didn't have the navy size that the Empire did, but it had much more naval quality in my opinion. Their fleets diversity led to a more resilient structure, capable of going up against a much larger range of opponents and still having the tools to win. Imperial naval doctrine focused almost entirely on large capital ships and offered little to no effective support for them, resulting in their constant defeats at the hands of much smaller rebel forces utilizing fighter and bomber craft against the capital ships of the Empire, which had minimal point defense coverage.
The best navy still goes to the New Republic and the later Galactic Alliance because of the New Class Modernization Program. The Fifth Fleet was the most powerful naval fleet in the galaxy as it was only formed with the new class ships including 2 best designed ships in star wars, the Nebula-class Star Destroyer and the Endurance-class Fleet Carrier. Fighter complements in the Endurance would still include the old work horses with new legs and new toys in combination with the E-Wing Starfighter and K-Wing Starfighter.
The Providence always looked great.
The Recusant's always looked strangely cool. Though that thin bit down the middle's always looked weird.
Yeah, I feel like it would be a major weak point, kinda like on the Nebulon B Frigate.
Yeah, I'm imagining the ship with more armour down that area and it'd look way better.
Like on the larger, 2.5 km version Grievous used?
That one was a Providence-class. xD
There is alternate medium and heavy designs with increased armour and interior space, this also applies to munificent frigates
The separatists were my favorite fleet In Star Wars, so thank you for this video
CIS have my favorite ships. The whole Separatist Navy fits in itself so well. Love their designs.
Been looking forward to this video. The Munificent and Recuscant are some of my favorite capital ships in all of Star Wars. It’s a shame how limited the information on these craft is compared to what available on the capital ships of the other major factions in Star Wars.
Love the Recuscant class and General Grevious had a larger version
There is exact numbers on the lenght, width and height/depht, the shield rating and hull strenght, reactor power output, maximum speed and acceleration both in and out of atmosphere, crew sizes and amount of cargo and passengers, consumables, hyperdrive rating and range, their manufacturer, affiliation, class, model and cost on a majority of Clone Wars era ships. I think they got the basics covered.
Philipp Obitz Could you direct me to this resource? A lot of the stuff I come across is either legends, or hasn’t been update since RotS.
@@thomasscaife6867 It's all on Wookieepedia and most of the stuff on there has been taken from The Essential Guide to Warfare, which is an encyclopedia of all sorts of Star Wars vehicles (among other things) up until 2012.
Philipp Obitz My concern about these resources is that still leaves off a good chunk of the newer Clone Wars material. One example is how these sources neglect to mention the Y-Wing as a part of the Venator’s compliment, even though we see them deployed on multiple occasions. As well as my doubt in the idea that every Venator carries 192 Eta-2 Starfighters, which are almost exclusively used by Jedi.
I have said it before, but I really like the Lucherhulk ship. For some reason I really think it would be great to see in a Rebel focused story, with the Alliance using the Lucherhulk as a carrier. With the Alliance's focus on starfighters it seems the Lucerhulk would have been rather useful for them.
They use one in the dr aphra comics!
They had one in the novel Death Star
I remember the one in Death Star. But i'd like to see something more substantial; I could see it as a backdrop setting for a full novel or story. Didn't know it was in the Dr. Aphra series though.
I remember reading somewhere (or maybe it was in a video game) about a rebel providence class that had been converted to have better engines etc names the Rebel One
Would be nice to watch a movie set in the early days of the Alliance, with Rebels using Providences, Lucrehulks, hacked droid fighters etc. and the Empire using Venators, early Victory ISDs and V-Wings instead of TIEs.
So, how many starfighters can your capital ship hold?
Lucrehulk: Yes.
Several thousand, plus the hundreds of Shuttles, HMP gunships, etc.
@@Dianasaurthemelonlord7777 and the stupid number of vulture droids that we can mag-lock to the outer hull
@@theomnissiah-9120 so perhaps a couple ten thousand
The lucrehulk battleship version is one of the most OP ships not into dreadnaughts its weapons can outgun more then 2 ISD and having 1500 fighters and its defenses can let it withstand entire fleets and is immune to small fighter sized guns
I loved the Confederate ships. I feel like the only reason they lost the war was cause they were supposed to lose it from the beginning. Take away Jedi plot armor and incompetent high command and they probably would've won.
Nah, they had a much bigger problem. Their tactic relied on outnumbering the Republic at any given time and battle heaviyl, but most of their territorry was sparsely populated, poor and barrely industrialized, aswell as disconnected from each other in the Outer Rim. The CIS eventually just became incapable of replacing the losses their navy sustained, while the Republic was cranking out Venators, and late in the War even early Victory- and Imperator-Class Stardestroyers without an end. All their battledroids on the ground don't matter if they can't produce fleets large enough to break through Republic Lines and land them on a planet.
Actually, while the Outer Rim was sparsely populated, it was not as a whole barely industrialized, given that the Republic pre-Clone Wars had given megacorporations essentially carte-blanche to do what they wanted with the outer rim, resultuing in many worlds that are essentially barren but others that are strongholds of the same megacorportations that formed the CIS, hugely industrialized, though not as developed as the Core Worlds.
MrAcerulez You'd have to remove the manipulation by the Sith as well, though that would have probably meant the Clone Wars and the preceding aggressive actions by the Trade Federation would not have happened. The CIS was set up from the start to loose by Palpatine.
According to Kalani, a super tactical droid, the CIS had a 75% chance of winning the war. But in Heir to the Jedi we find out the Jedi and force are a fulcrum variable so the actual chance is probably closer to 50%
The Sci-fi Show Was Kalani aware that the Supreme Chancellor and Darth Sideous (Dooku's Master) were the same person? Also Heir to the Jedi is part of Legends now if I'm recalling correctly.
Graham Baxter The CIS had a much smaller political foundation to build an Empire upon. For a would be dictator taking over the Republic by use of a massive distraction on the level of the war with the CIS makes much more sense. He had both Order 66 and the shutdown codes to ensure that end.
I love the cis military. I wish they would have survived and became a solid faction that kept making new ships and droids.... it would have been pretty sweet to see them face the vong.. especially knowing how much vong hate machines
The rebels used a providence class as a sort of precursor home one just after yavin
The battleship conversion of the Luchrehulk transport also packed a lot more weapons than any other vessel, matching several Venators combined in overall firepower. :)
I have no pun for this...... I didn't have the Providence to come up with one.
I have no counter pun so consider this a Tie!
Lies!!!
Considering these beauties, it's amazing that the CIS lost.
Vanugan of Tharlania If the war wasn't rigged they would've won
Yeah I've always really liked the CIS military
Venator hard carried the Republic.
The republic had way more galactic influence and had overall a more powerful navy and army
@@dexterjettster3683 CIS lost due to Palpatine. If the CIS was able to produce the b3 cortosis super droid then the Republic would be in big trouble.
Also Palpatine sabatoged the various droid models and ships preventing upgrades etc. Remember he is Darth sidious!
The CIS would have won if Palpatine was killed by Windu or past attempts at his life.
One of the Wikis mentions that there were at least 5 Subjugator-class ships constructed. Sad we didn't see any of them other than the Malevolence :(
Well there was 1 other ‘seen’ in clone wars media. Specifically, in a DS game. “Star Wars the clone wars: Jedi Alliance.” The ship was named the Devastation, and instead of 2 ion cannons, one on each side, the ship had one cannon mounted on the front, which was never fired in the game but is assumed to be a prototype super laser, as the ship was powered by Kyber crystals.
Saw title, clicked, and liked immediately.
I'll take a Providence over a Venator any day, but also just a better fleet design than the republic. If only they'd upped their Droid programming before or once the war had broken out.
they actually did try, but palps didn't like how powerful it made the CIS
The CIS has been a favorite sci-fi army of mine ever since I saw the fleet of lucrehulks over Naboo in episode 1. You knew they were a force to be reckoned with from look alone.
So who's gonna hold the flanks.... Providence, Lucrehulk? Anybody? Where are my Roger Rogers?!!!
I gave mine to Roger
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Roger Roger
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Not only does the CIS have the coolest navy, but the army conformed by various battle droids is also awesome.
I've loved the battledroids and the ships of the CIS since i was a child, they're just so cool!!
The Lucrehulk is my favorite ship, looks awesome and can hold so much stuff in it enough to conquer worlds on its own, so good!
Long live the CIS
Roger roger
The CIS has always been my favourite Star Wars faction. Thank you so much for these videos dedicated to them!
The Munificent is one of my favorite SW ship design.
only the Confederacy has a dedicated carrier for fleet operations.
Yeah, it's strange that the Republic used what was effectively an escort carrier as their primary frontline warship. I would've liked to see a scaled up (2km+) version of the Venator that eschews a fighter compliment in favor of a more extensive and flexible weapons complement.
The Venator Star Destroyer would like to have a word with you.
@@TruePacifist201 you mean the Imperial Class Star Destroyer?
@@wargrizzero5158 The problem with the Imperial-class is that it still tries to hybridize the carrier and battleship roles. Sacrificing space for fighter hangers means you can't carry as many weapons.
@@TruePacifist201 You mean the Tector-class Star Destroyer?
I thinks it is the best fleet in all of star wars because every ship is has it own purposes and can fight with diffrent types of enemies.
I think what is fascinating, is that the Recuscant and the Providence had a much larger variant as well that was commonly used. The providence was also highly modular, and if the war was explored in more detail, who knows what kind of variants you could get.
I've never really given it too much thought before this, but I think the CIS fleet has got to be my favorite fleet in star wars. The specialization and ability to work together effectively makes the fleet as a whole a formidable enemy to face. While I personally dislike some of the ship designs, I just think they look weird, the combined power and might of the separatist navy makes for a terrifying and inspiring foe.
I love all the CIS ships your doing
I’m sexually attracted to the providence class
You have good taste.
I’m emotionally attracted to the MC85 star cruiser idk why
Same...
WOAH!
Yeah boy, some CIS love...
In the 05 SWBFII, I tend to fly my bomber from behind into the gap between the Munificent's armor plates and internal components. Bombs away with little to no resistance.
Only problem is that the Separatist Ships in that game are horribly in accurate structure wise. They have heavy turbolasers and point defense cannons located in that exact area.
Concise
Straight to the point
Great delivery
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I personally love the Providence class destroyer. It's gotta be my favorite. The aesthetic of the almost beak- which was shown better with the dreadnaught style with the eyes- is absolutely gorgeous in my opinion.
I’m just gonna be honest I think the subjugator would be a really good ship to fall in to rebel hands beside the massive size the troops and the power it would need it would be great for taking out entire fleets of the empires ships
Man, I love the Munificent. Cheap yet powerful in terms of frontal firepower that can easily rip apart stronger, bigger ships. And most importantly, aesthetically pleasing.
This has got to be the coolest video you have ever done and I mean you have done a bunch of Awesome videos but this one was just so amazing
A few oversights here and there.
The Recusant posesses 11 Turbolasers of varying sizes, but it is armed with 102 Laser Cannons, so it's safe to assume that the Light Destroyer is more of a capital sized screening vessel, rather than a capital-killer. Similarly, the Munificent has 38 Point-Defense Laser Cannons, so I fail to see how these things are supposed to be unable to defend themselves against strike craft. The DH-Omni is also said to be equipped with a number of proton bombs.
Lastly, not every Subjugator had Ion Pulse Cannons on their port and starboard sides, in fact the only other known vessel of the Subjugator-class than the Malevolence, the Devastation, had an experimental forward facing planet-killing weapon. I think it's fair to assume that every Subjugator-class Star Dreadnought was a unique design.
These have got to be some of my favorite capital ship designs in all Star Wars.
Man I do love Clone Wars era ships I would change the design to some of the ships for the separatist Fleet.Like for the Munificent frigate and the Recusant destroyer to have some point defense weapons. Only some for the frigate and more so for the destroyer.
The Munificent has 38 point defense weapons, and the Recusant has 60 point defense weapons
@@michaelhanson8296 something a bit more effective against Fighters it doesn't have to be amazing just slightly better
The Munificent does seem to have more heavy guns, outside of just the super heavy barrels.
@@chrissonofpear3657 starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Munificent-class_star_frigate
it has in canon:
2 heavy turbo laser cannons (fixed front)
2 long range ion cannons (fixed front)
26 twin light turbo laser turrets (52 light turbo laser cannons), which are capable of limited point defense, effective against bombers
another 20 mono light turbo laser turrets (for a total of 72 light turbo laser cannons)
38-40 (depending on the model) point defense twin light laser cannons (so around 80 light laser cannons for point defense)
and 8-12 medium flak guns [specifically all-purpose mass driver cannons] (starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Flak_gun)
and an unknown number of ordinance launchers
aswell as 48 vulture droids (carried and refueled under the outer hull layer, and cycled through a small hanger for repairs)
and atleast 1 shuttle in said small hanger
legends:
the same but only 36 fighters, but 12 landing craft (and no ordinance launchers)
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great work
Long live to the Confedeacy of Independent Sistems
You do great work
the repair and maintenance logistics in the cis fleet would have been a nightmare.
I love these CIS videos you make man! Can you do one on the Separatist Council?
The munificent does carry a fighter compliment
I love all of your videos
And because the CIS has so much different ships, I love them even more. Some of them looks so nice. The best of course the Lucrehulk but I also like the frigate.
Can you do videos about the warships and starfighters of the Galactic Republic ?
You should do:
Battleship Halberd
Great Fox
Arwing
Recusant is by far my most favourite of the CIS ships.
Gotta admire the work of the ship designers for the prequels and the Clone Wars cartoons. They created tonnes of new ships in new styles - everyone else got away with making ships that look like the original trilogy whether it was a video game taking place thousands of years earlier or they were Disney employees with nearly unlimited resources.
Can you maybe do a series on the Honorverse ships?
keep these up
I love the aesthetic and the style of the CIS
The Providence dreadnought will always be my favourite
These ship look great. 😍
Recusant is my fav ship.
I have one complaint, it's small and very nitpicky. But some CIS ship classes sometimes carried fighters on their hull, allowing for quick deployment of vulture droid starfighters and hyena bombers. For the rest it's an awesome video, a very in-depth and detailed discription of the CIS fleet.
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when talking about Subjugator-class heavy cruiser other than the malevolence there was a second design that produced her sister ship the Devastation.
The Lucrehulk is the ultimate ship carrier!
If you need footage for Star Wars videos, you should look at SW: Empire at War. It has an excellent cinematic camera, and with mods, it can have nearly any ship in the Star Wars universe.
I love the CIS they were a really cool faction in Star Wars also is there a chance we can get a video like this but for the Sith Navy from SWTOR and earlier?
CIS designers: what types should we use?
Grevious: Y- * cough cough - Yes
when he said at about 1:00 that the ship carried arms I thought, so that is what happens to your arm when it is cut off.
I fucking love the Prequel era, it's so awesome
Danke
I really hope Lego makes an Ultimate Collectors Lucrehulk
I hope so as well. Ive always wanted it
The CIS are one of my favourite that is only rivaled by the Galactic empire.
CIS design > Republic design
Awesome.
The Munificent is arguably my favorite design in Star Wars and I wish there was merch of it. lol
The problem of having a large compliment of varied in design, but limited in purpose ships is that you're simply more likely to end up having the wrong ship doing the wrong task at the wrong time. It takes far greater logistics and planning to make sure every ship gets deployed correctly in the correct situation. Yet, even still, in the chaos of battle, the situation may change and you may find that your current fleet composition of specialized ships is unsuited to the battle you are now facing. Though the individual ships themselves may be far more suited to their specialized tasks than more generalized ships, their mission profile is much lower. You may not always have need of specialized ships in one area, but may be heavily taxed on specialized ships of another area.
Not only that, but in terms of production capacity, if you're devoting resources to specialized ships that simply aren't seeing much action at that moment in anticipation of their later use, or have a large number of specialized ships left over from battles you previously won but are now facing a different type of engagement to which they are not suited, a more general purpose enemy design may simply outnumber you in the field compared to the ships you *are* using.
In this instance, the specialization of the CIS navy may have contributed to their loss in the war. You often see them caught off guard, and in rapidly changing circumstances to which the more reactive and flexible Republic navy was able to adapt to.
Simply put, a specialized ship can win you the battle, but a general purpose ship can win you the war.
The Oni-Class would be an excellent cargo ship and the Providence-Class has been a favorite of mine among the CIS ships for it is a beauty.
I was just looking for info on the confederate fleet for the republic!
The providence is one of my favorite ships in star wars
It’s 9:45 PM, I should be sleeping, but instead I’m studying the CIS
The CIS looks great on paper and in theory can outperform the Republic fleet, but it variety works against it. Their ships were so specialised that they had little use in other roles. The chances of having exactly the combination of vessels the admirals needed in any given situation were remote. Ships were often pressed into roles they weren’t suited for to cover. Supply chains also suffer as maintaining a wide variety of ships and crews is harder. The republic by comparison churned out two or three capital ship designs at any given moment. While not as impressive the commanders knew they had some capacity to fight in any given role and the Republic navy soon out grew the CIS on every front.
Favorite:
-Recusant
-Munificent
-Malevolence
Fun fact: the subjugator-class and the episodes focused on it were inspired by the Nazi Bismarck-class battleship
You forgot gozanti cruisers, they were part of the navy but were mostly used as civilian ships
I know this is a different subject, but I have a question about The Sojourn: Will us fans be able to write fan-stories set in the Sojourn universe and will such works have the opportunity to become cannon if you like them.
Has anyone ever noticed that the Rebellion and the CIS origin story are a little similar . One is lead by a aristocrat Mon Mothma and fighting is Luke Skywalker and Leia a force user. Combining all those roles is fallen Jedi aristocrat Count Dooku combining all those roles both sides have makeshift large ships meant originally to do civilian based activities modified into a fleet of war ships.
The DH-omi looks like a hellfire droid tank. But more spacey
There also is a recusant dreadnought
I am all for the republic but i like looking at all their different ships.
now you must do the legends republic fleet
now you need to do one on the republic fleet
The terror of the void, the Malevolence and CIS marins!
(bismarck from sabaton reference😋)
My favorite ships ❤
Cis had the best navy hands down. also they actually had sizable weaponry that can engage at any angle not just beside or above