I'm a hi gain guitar player and agree with your opinion. I try many different impulse response. One day I just find 2 pairs that sound good to my ear. One is bright, the other is darker. Nowadays I just try to find any amp sim that sound good when paired with one of those. Chasing tone is a never ending journey which can be tiresome and boring. So I try keeping it as minimum as possible and give more emphasize on my guitar playing.
One of the best videos on TH-cam. I hardly comment, but I am an acoustic engineer and guitar player, and these 17 minutes are among the most informative I have experience in 1000s of hours of TH-cam! Well done Mikko.
Yeah, I get that ;) Anyway keep the great content like that coming! I personally never had such a great tone using your Mikko Player with the OX Box on my band EP. It's crazy how working with great Ir's and this technology changed the amount of time spend to dial a great and inspiring tone. Cheers mate!
Really streamlined, concise presentation. Wish I came across something like this back in the day. It would've been useful to learn _BEFORE_ spendng countless hours and money, obsessing over gear and tone.
Wow Mikko, this was VERY insightful! The way you make all the explanations so simple, the comparisons with eq waves, the graphics, the conclusions you give at the end... I think you have great knowledge and potential, so really, thank you for sharing it with us!
sir plese keep uploading these types of video ....ive learned a lot of things from many of your video which you have uploaded and before my thinking was diffrent but now you have really opened my eyes thanks for sharing all these thanks you ....
Sir I'm from india ..And I'm a huge fan of periphery ... I'm a medical student and I love music and I have my band here Basically I'm a drummer but I play guitar here in my college and I nerve had this much knowledge about guitar sound's...and by watching Misha mansoor and some of you videos I came to know many things and I practically applied it all whatever I saw in Misha mansoor and your video and it really worked for mee... And my bandmates where shocked.. So thankyou once again ... And if you meet misha any time please tell them to visit India also because there are many metalheads who like periphery...
This is brilliant Mikko. Thank you! I bought an Axe FX III about 6 months ago and am amazed at how the CAB IR makes the biggest difference. Fussing over a Callahan or Faber bridge on the Les Paul is pure OCD :)
Great video, loved every minute. You would also be surprised how much the actual person influences the tone organically. My bud and i used the same exact gear down to the pic and i sounded way more 80s rock and he sounded a lot more metal, was a real eye opener. Keep up the great work.
Most definitely - had to mention that in the disclaimer as well. :) Obviously if the strings themselves are such a big part of your tone then the way you pick has a huge influence as well.
the best video about comparing guitar tone regarding all those different steps in a chain. AWESOME!! Two notes: I think 1x12 cabinets can sound even better than 4x12 in a studio recording. Not always, but it depends. I´m very familiar with mics (sm57 / Royer) and I have never had the experience, that the royer is brighter than a shure. So this example here seems to show an exception to the rule -> as you know, mic placement is like EQ
Thank You so much Miko! This video is full with really helpful tips and advices and tests. Thank you again for all your efforts for making this and all the videos. Thank You.
Thing about guitar is piece by piece to collect the puzzle. Its not how much one thing changes the sound, which obviously changes, but how all parts stucked together sound. Even in mixing adding just 4/5% changes to each processor/plugin will ultimatively makes huge difference if you use 4/5 of them . Removing one will not make big changes, but you will miss it in the mix, but removing all its pretty much noticeable even to the half deaf man. But i fully agree the biggest sound changes are preamp and cab/mics.
It's all about the sum of the parts - if any of the parts truly suck, they'll sink the whole ship for sure. But when all the parts are fine, the balance of which parts are doing the most work shifts a little. This was just an exploration of that! -Kai
Wow, what a great video. Great presentation style -- organized and clear, yet personal and casual. I've been binge watching your whole channel (and binge shopping on your site, too) and loved everything. This kind of videos are very useful for me, cause I don't have a lot of experience with gear. This is 15-years-worth-of-experience reader's digest :)) I was really surprised how similar the humbuckers and single coils sound on high gain settings. And that tone wood actually did make any difference :D
I'm a "high gain" and "clean" guitar player and it's very difficult to tweak an amp to have great sounds in both application. Most of the time the amp is better for distortion or cleans. By the way I'm a dual rectifier player it's a great amp, the clean sounds good too but it feels weak if you have to switch between the 3 channels.
What would you recommend if I need not so clean but decent cleans, medium crunch and awesome lead tones with a ssh strat. I asked you because I have an AX8 and set decent tones at home but into the mixer the lead and crunch sounds better than the clean with chorus delay and reverb
while i realize your comparison is more about audible tone. In reference to guitar and your subcategories, The only thing your test doesn't compensate for is the feel of the tone.you can have two tones that sound very similar, but feel very different. While pickups may not make that much of an audible difference in high gain tones. The difference in the feel of the tone is pretty big when comparing a pickup with say an A2 magnet, or an A5 magnet, or even a ceramic magnet. A2 being more open and spongy feeling in the low end, an A5 feeling slightly tighter and punchier in the low end, and a ceramic feeling even more so tight and punchy in the low end. While i agree the speaker cab and mic up clearly has the largest total impact on tone, I still feel it is the sum of all parts, because all of those subtle differences in the guitar and amp categories can total up to bigger differences in combination with each other.
Great comparison. Some people will take the red pill and some will take the blue pill... the truth stays the same regardless of someone’s opinion of it.
The smallest difference was made by tone wood. Baaaarely audible. And still, it's unclear whether the differences occured because of wood species. Perhaps a stronger conclusion could have been drawn if it was plastic compared to wood or something like that, but nevermind. This is a good video tho.
In this video it is very clear that tonowood is a silly catcher and guitar companies do not want the customer to know this reality. Wood does not add any significant shade and should be chosen, rather because of its beautiful grain finish or the weight of it. More than for the tone it can offer. More significant was the change in tone of old string vs fresh strings, cabs, pickups, preamp tubes Etc. Than of wood type.
Kind of discussed this in the "amp in the room" section. This comparison was limited to recorded/direct tones for obvious reasons. How would I measure how everyone's room sounds like etc. :)
I'm a hi gain guitar player and agree with your opinion. I try many different impulse response. One day I just find 2 pairs that sound good to my ear. One is bright, the other is darker. Nowadays I just try to find any amp sim that sound good when paired with one of those. Chasing tone is a never ending journey which can be tiresome and boring. So I try keeping it as minimum as possible and give more emphasize on my guitar playing.
One of the best videos on TH-cam. I hardly comment, but I am an acoustic engineer and guitar player, and these 17 minutes are among the most informative I have experience in 1000s of hours of TH-cam! Well done Mikko.
Wow thank you SO MUCH!! :) I think I could go even more in-depth if there's interest.
@@mlsoundlab there is interest.
@@mlsoundlab Definitely interested
@@mlsoundlab interest indeed
After all this time, still interested :)
Finally someone considering all elements
Man I'm so glad I subscribe to your channel. You are becoming a legend Mikko. Really appreciate the quality of your channel content and products.
One of the best tone comparison video ive ever seen !
Dropping some simple truth bombs, love it.
Really educative! Great content, everything makes sense but it's nice to get it summarize like that!!
Thank you so much - once I started making this video I felt like I could've gone wayyyyy deeper but I tried my best to keep this a watchable video. :D
Yeah, I get that ;) Anyway keep the great content like that coming! I personally never had such a great tone using your Mikko Player with the OX Box on my band EP. It's crazy how working with great Ir's and this technology changed the amount of time spend to dial a great and inspiring tone. Cheers mate!
Really streamlined, concise presentation. Wish I came across something like this back in the day. It would've been useful to learn _BEFORE_ spendng countless hours and money, obsessing over gear and tone.
Wow Mikko, this was VERY insightful! The way you make all the explanations so simple, the comparisons with eq waves, the graphics, the conclusions you give at the end... I think you have great knowledge and potential, so really, thank you for sharing it with us!
Thank you that means a lot. :)
You're always uploading great content on TH-cam man, your products are awesome you're awesome dude, cheers from France ! :)
Thank you so much Adrien! :)
sir plese keep uploading these types of video ....ive learned a lot of things from many of your video which you have uploaded and before my thinking was diffrent but now you have really opened my eyes thanks for sharing all these thanks you ....
Aww thank you so much! :)
Sir I'm from india ..And I'm a huge fan of periphery ...
I'm a medical student and I love music and I have my band here
Basically I'm a drummer but I play guitar here in my college and I nerve had this much knowledge about guitar sound's...and by watching Misha mansoor and some of you videos I came to know many things and I practically applied it all whatever I saw in Misha mansoor and your video and it really worked for mee... And my bandmates where shocked..
So thankyou once again ...
And if you meet misha any time please tell them to visit India also because there are many metalheads who like periphery...
This is brilliant Mikko. Thank you! I bought an Axe FX III about 6 months ago and am amazed at how the CAB IR makes the biggest difference. Fussing over a Callahan or Faber bridge on the Les Paul is pure OCD :)
Great video, loved every minute. You would also be surprised how much the actual person influences the tone organically. My bud and i used the same exact gear down to the pic and i sounded way more 80s rock and he sounded a lot more metal, was a real eye opener. Keep up the great work.
Most definitely - had to mention that in the disclaimer as well. :) Obviously if the strings themselves are such a big part of your tone then the way you pick has a huge influence as well.
Great video, man. Watching with my morning coffee.
the best video about comparing guitar tone regarding all those different steps in a chain. AWESOME!! Two notes: I think 1x12 cabinets can sound even better than 4x12 in a studio recording. Not always, but it depends. I´m very familiar with mics (sm57 / Royer) and I have never had the experience, that the royer is brighter than a shure. So this example here seems to show an exception to the rule -> as you know, mic placement is like EQ
Thank You so much Miko! This video is full with really helpful tips and advices and tests. Thank you again for all your efforts for making this and all the videos. Thank You.
thanks for the helpful information, ML Sound Lab you are cool
Thing about guitar is piece by piece to collect the puzzle. Its not how much one thing changes the sound, which obviously changes, but how all parts stucked together sound. Even in mixing adding just 4/5% changes to each processor/plugin will ultimatively makes huge difference if you use 4/5 of them . Removing one will not make big changes, but you will miss it in the mix, but removing all its pretty much noticeable even to the half deaf man.
But i fully agree the biggest sound changes are preamp and cab/mics.
It's all about the sum of the parts - if any of the parts truly suck, they'll sink the whole ship for sure. But when all the parts are fine, the balance of which parts are doing the most work shifts a little. This was just an exploration of that!
-Kai
What!!! I never knew strings makes this big !! anyways awesome video dude !\m/
It's huge - I regret not having that as a clean sample - it would've been so obvious. :D
this video is pure perfection Mikko ! 👌
Great vid. Very interesting comparisons. Well done. 🤘
tone is love, tone is life
Great video man!
Thanks Alex you da man
Very educational!!🤯
Pickups would have been a good category here too.
As in guitar electronics?
Wow, what a great video. Great presentation style -- organized and clear, yet personal and casual. I've been binge watching your whole channel (and binge shopping on your site, too) and loved everything.
This kind of videos are very useful for me, cause I don't have a lot of experience with gear. This is 15-years-worth-of-experience reader's digest :))
I was really surprised how similar the humbuckers and single coils sound on high gain settings. And that tone wood actually did make any difference :D
hey Mikko!
I don't quite agree about love. however, guitars and guitar tone are more important, truer, more faithful, better than women 100%
Very logical and usable video! L O V E !
Wow, thank you mikko!
Great lesson. At "tonewood" I thought he was trolling us :-D
di and cab is everything， head doesnt matter at all
Came for amazing info, stayed for the MuuminMug
I'm a "high gain" and "clean" guitar player and it's very difficult to tweak an amp to have great sounds in both application. Most of the time the amp is better for distortion or cleans. By the way I'm a dual rectifier player it's a great amp, the clean sounds good too but it feels weak if you have to switch between the 3 channels.
What would you recommend if I need not so clean but decent cleans, medium crunch and awesome lead tones with a ssh strat. I asked you because I have an AX8 and set decent tones at home but into the mixer the lead and crunch sounds better than the clean with chorus delay and reverb
while i realize your comparison is more about audible tone.
In reference to guitar and your subcategories, The only thing your test doesn't compensate for is the feel of the tone.you can have two tones that sound very similar, but feel very different.
While pickups may not make that much of an audible difference in high gain tones. The difference in the feel of the tone is pretty big when comparing a pickup with say an A2 magnet, or an A5 magnet, or even a ceramic magnet.
A2 being more open and spongy feeling in the low end, an A5 feeling slightly tighter and punchier in the low end, and a ceramic feeling even more so tight and punchy in the low end. While i agree the speaker cab and mic up clearly has the largest total impact on tone, I still feel it is the sum of all parts, because all of those subtle differences in the guitar and amp categories can total up to bigger differences in combination with each other.
Pls upload this as a video plsss
Different picks will make a bigger difference than wood and tubes
Great comparison. Some people will take the red pill and some will take the blue pill... the truth stays the same regardless of someone’s opinion of it.
EL34 tubes were definitely a little woolier side-by-side, but man that is not that enough of a difference to spend money on
The smallest difference was made by tone wood. Baaaarely audible.
And still, it's unclear whether the differences occured because of wood species. Perhaps a stronger conclusion could have been drawn if it was plastic compared to wood or something like that, but nevermind.
This is a good video tho.
In this video it is very clear that tonowood is a silly catcher and guitar companies do not want the customer to know this reality.
Wood does not add any significant shade and should be chosen, rather because of its beautiful grain finish or the weight of it. More than for the tone it can offer.
More significant was the change in tone of old string vs fresh strings, cabs, pickups, preamp tubes Etc. Than of wood type.
@@butcher_0392 I don't think it's a conspiracy. I think guitar companies genuinely believe tonewood matters.
4 dislikes have 3 dimensional sound
What are tonewoods? ::Runs like chicken crap::
headphones VS PA////studio vs live////cab vs mic's cab
Kind of discussed this in the "amp in the room" section. This comparison was limited to recorded/direct tones for obvious reasons. How would I measure how everyone's room sounds like etc. :)