I always thought that it is heavily implied that Fia had sex with her champions and the corpses, in general she is a very promiscuous figure although loyal to her beliefs. The "hug" that she gives us in the game is kinda like an allegory, she was most likely forced to pursue the companion role against her will for the majority of her life
I'm glad you brought this up. It's something that I didn't get around to further explaining. Yes, I agree. It is implied that Fia slept with her champions and nobles. 1. Rogier - She mentions that Rogier talks about the knife prints when 'abed.' This implies some post-intercourse discussion, as one does. 2. Lionel - You find his armour and Fia's dress on a bed. This seems to suggest that they disrobed and had intercourse. What's more interesting is that Lionel claimed to be Fia's father. Scandalous. 3. Godwyn - Fia 'gestates' the rune. She 'lays' with Godwyn's corpse and is impregnated. Now I personally believe this is not because she wants to, or likes being promiscuous. I think having skin-to-skin contact is a more efficient way of transfering the vigour from a champion to Fia, and from Fia to the noble. Therefore, it is achieving her goal in the quickest method. We are able to give her some of our vigour, because we are touching whilst hugging. In theory, we should also be able to do so by sleeping with Fia. Obviously if this was a function, it would be a completely different game. But also, the poetic and symbolic meaning would be lost and Fia would only be viewed for that purpose. She is more than just that. But she is also aware of it, that’s why she says “Do you think it vulgar?” She knows the connotations but still views it as sacred. But yes, you are right. The hug can be seen as an allegory for intercourse :)
@@miss_chalice also, it might not even be actually more effective. Those nobles had power over her. They could easily force her into doing it, or else.
In the case of her laying with Godwyn, due to the massive and bizarre form Godwyn is in while she lays next to him, I imagine the conception of the rune is performed in a metaphysical sense through the deathbed dream, or is able to be done through the mere skin-on-skin contact of her sleeping while slouched against Godwyn.
The first time I hugged Fia was at the exact moment the music in round table hold swelled, it sent melancholy goose bumps through my body and I still don’t think I’ve recovered. A beautifully weird anomaly to find in a souls game.
Fia being fortissax is actually a really interesting and fun theory considering everything we know about the dragon cults and Godwyn's involvement with them.
I actually love the idea! But it does bring up some questions with her being one of the Tarnished mentioned in the intro cutscene… However, Fortissax does have Fia in its name… 🤔
@@amplefyre if a dragon could see the guidance of grace and then take the form of a tarnished then yeahhhh but I think it’s a bit of a reach but a fun idea
@@colorpg152 that is true but fia never mentions any relatives she only ever talks about being forced to leave her home I feel like if the two were some how connected she would drop a hint or two about it. Besides all that the theory is so good I’m willing to just accept it as my own personal head cannon anyway
@@chrispysaid A lot of people speculate Marika(Freya) shattered the Elden Ring because Godwyn(Baldur) was murdered in the NOTBK which caused the Shattering(Ragnarok). Ranni would’ve been Loki in this parallel.
@@chrispysaid Baldur was the beloved golden boy of the Norse Pantheon, Godwyn is literally "the Golden." Baldur was invulnerable to everything except mistletoe due to the head goddess Freya, Godwyn like all other demigods was thought to be completely immortal. Baldur was killed by a betrayal from fellow divine figure Loki using mistletoe, the only weapon that could harm him, Godwyn was killed by a betrayal from fellow demigod Ranni using the Black Knives, the only weapon known to kill demigods. Baldur's death is the first in the chain that results in Ragnarok, Godwyn's death triggers the Shattering. Baldur is said to eventually resurrect as the new god, Godwyn is mutated as the Prince of Death who can through the Tarnished become the dominant power. It's frankly more impressive that you think they don't have much in common when what little we know of Baldur maps fairly simply onto Godwyn.
If no one mentioned this, it was more likely that the weathered dagger was Devins. It was said Devin, Darian's brother had seen the corpse of Godwyn. Darian does like us quite a bit and likely woulda said "oh, u found my dagger." But instead he said he knows who's it is. I'd imagine there was a time where Darian was the "lesser" brother, and Devin was the greater until his traumatization at realization of death being yk...a thing in the world now, and having seen the prince of death.
The dagger's description mentions the black withering on it. Devin used the dagger to cut the half wheelmark, the Mark of the Centipede, from Godwyn's flesh. That's why Fia says the first half was recovered from Roundtable Hold. She kills Darian with Deathblight and takes Godwyn's half of the mark back. That's why she also points you toward Rogier's quest. He's searching for the key that will lead to the other half, and thus to her being able to birth her mending rune, allowing Those Who Live In Death into the new order.
Fia, the only NPC who provides us all with the one thing we all require: to be held. Also a special shoutout to Fortissax the Loyal, who stayed with his friend till the end.
It's weird, because we never hear the perspective of those who live in death. The golden order claims that they are constantly suffering and only a proper death will give them peace, Fia instead, says that they need to be loved and accepted as part of the new order. When we meet them they attack us, but is it out of fear of persecution or are they really just mindless zombies? Regardless, this was the ending i first went with, i wanted to believe that Fia was right, but something about it never quite sat right with me.
You bring up some interesting points! I agree, I think it's interesting that Fia acts on behalf of the Those Who Live in Death (TWLID). BUT also Godwyn! Does Godwyn consent? Does he want to be rebirthed, in some fashion? I viewed it through the lense that they did. But if you start to consider if from a different angle, it can paint Fia as the villain. Keeping TWLID alive, not leaving them to rest could be a torturous fate. Very thought-provoking stuff! Thanks for your comment :)
Godwyn... Is a body, I doubt Godwyn can consent to anything. Not that he'd need to, because Godwyn is for all intents and purposes an object. But the rest of TWLID... I am not sure. They have basic intelligence for sure. Sentience is debatable. It's really hard to tell when they are skeleton enemies in Dark Souls. Were they in a game with AI more focused on non interactions with the player character, we might have been able to study their behaviours, but with what we are given, it's a hard bargain to draw conclusions.
If they suffer the same fate as Godwyn, they don't have a soul, there's no perspective from them because they aren't beings. They are just moving corpses.
One thing I would add is that when Fia is resting beside Godwyn's corpse waiting for you to bring her the second part of the rune of death, if you attack her she says: "Godwyn... Is that you, dear?" Then several skulls are launched from the body of Godwyn directly above Fia and aim at the player. It's not really dangerous and it's easily dodged. But this does have some VERY disturbing implications: -This means that Fia can communicate directly with Godywn to some degree. Or Godwyn can communicate with her and therefore potentially others. -Godwyn is sentient, aware and can interact with the living world, even to a violent degree. -Godwyn likes/approves of Fia, since he tries to protect her. -Godwyn is corrupting and spreading his will through the Erdtree/lands between on purpose. He probably has a plan/goal. -Since he is aware of Fia/his corpses surroundings, it's possible this extends to all parts of himself (His corruption through the Erdtree roots) meaning he might be somewhat omnipresent. If that's all correct, Godywn is terrifying.
The big issue is that Godwyn is only half dead in the worst possible way. Ranni got the easy end of things with her body dying (no biggy she's basically the most powerful witch at the time of Elden Ring since Rennala's prime is long past) with her magic/overall power allowing her to posses the dolls she takes the form of Godwyn's soul - what made him Godwyn, his personality and sense of morality - is gone forever. What's left behind is the body of a demigod that's literally *gone hollow*. His burial at the base of the erdtree was BIG oopsy as all the deathroot and eye-trees and crabs with his face on the back are his doing. He is the first undead - a being held aloft by nothing but his own body. HE'S BASICALLY NITO BUT AT LEAST NITO HAS A SOUL
The Lichdragon Fortissax boss fight is cool and all, but I feel cheated out of a monster Godwyn boss fight. How do you design this amazing abomination, plunk it down at the end of this massive optional area, and not make it the final boss of her quest line?
That was a very interesting take, especially the part that Fia could be a dragon in disguise. This brings up some interesting questions. 1. What's Fia's relationship with Destined Death and Farum Azula? Is Farum Azula the land she was driven out from? In Farum Azula we find the Wormface, who cursed you with death. The Dragons are in Farum Azula This is where Maliketh is found, protecting the remaining part of the rune of death. 🤔🤔
I love the theory that Fia is Fortissax, I've never heard that idea put forth by anyone else and it makes perfect sense to me. Thank you for this incredible video and the equally wonderful cosplay!
@@vooligan9499 1. Letters match in their names, and names tend to be clues in Elden Ring 2. Both are called companions of Godwyn 3. Devotion to Godwyn 4. Dragons can take human form 5. Tarnished don't have to be human (Goldmask) 6. Godrick calls a dragon 'kindred' which may be literal. Might be a descendant of Marika through Godwyn and a dragon 7. Cult of the Dragon thriving despite most other Golden Order enemies being subject to genocide 8. If you hit Fia, she calls Godwyn 'my dear' instead of master or Lord. It seems more familiar, like she once knew him
@@Trotsworth Further to the naming point, Fia is in FortIssAx and the letters afterward do a count down F-3-I-2-A-1. Since as you said that she dies as Fortissax dies, it could be dev poetic license that as you see the name for the first and the last time you're counting down till the end of her life and the completion of her goals. Just another theory but yeah.
I don't actually think it was Darian that removed the cursemark - I think it was Devin. Darian mentions that he knows who the blade belongs to, not that it's *his* . Also, Devin is resting in the underground, and I can't remember where it was said, but something (I believe an item description, or dialogue, or something) says that he supposedly lost his mind after witnessing the Prince of Death. That means Devin, also a hunter of Those Who Live In Death, has at one point been in the presence of Godwyn's corpse. I believe Devin is the one who found Godwyn, shattered his own dagger removing the cursemark from Godwyn's body, and then ended up in Siofra after going mad. Darian, of course, is not going to amicable towarsa Fia, but I don't think he was the owner of the dagger. I think Fia was removing the last threat, Devin's twin brother, who would almost certainly attempt the same thing. Devin has already gone mad, and without the Tarnished's interference, will simply sit in the aqueducts and do nothing. He is not a threat anymore. Darian still is, so Fia must get rid of him.
The Rogier theory where he’s dead makes a lot of sense. If you go into Stormveil castle to the bottom where you fight the ulcerated tree spirit there is a blood stain. It’s Rogier getting death blighted. There is a dialogue option for it when you talk to Rogier if you find it.
I remember seeing that, and thinking it was so odd! I knew next to nothing about the game, its narrative or its systems at that point, but I knew right away I saw Rogier dying in that spot.
I spent the whole of my playthrough up until near the very end rejecting her hugs because I had suspicions about her. But then I finally concede to her offer of a hug, and after all the agony of the game at that point as soon as she gently said “You are very warm!” I literally burst into tears! The hug is just as much for the player! 😭
@sabineschmidt762 their endings are the only good parts about the final acts, some of the only games i think have satisfying endings are fromsoft games, but they all have the same similar feeling towards the end i know other rpgs do it like act 3 in bg3 isnt as good as 1 n 2 but its still a lot more fleshed out and wasnt as rushed as say, farum azula or the bed of chaos
@@grantpowers663 Really the only distinct endings here are the bloodborne great old one ending and the lord of hollows ending in ds3 because they actually require you to follow an additional path, infact elden rings palette swap endings require far more different circumstances throughout the game then any other fromsoft ending. And yes, i'm comparing farum azula to the bed of chaos. Maybe it feels weird teleporting for seemingly no reason from what was one big interconnected area to an atomized area seperate completely on its own, with the lowest enemy variety in the entire game - beastmen, banished knights we've been fighting the entire game, and a Lansseax clone. Truly pushing the envelope
That is a bummer, frenzy flame & Ranni endings get unique cinematics. As for the default, Golden order, dung eater & Fias ending?: you sit on the throne with diffrent filters. Done
20:22 Lately I’ve been playing with the idea that the eclipse is the origin of Destined Death. If you look at the Eclipse Shotel, it bears a striking resemblance to the halfwheel cursemark found on Ranni’s and Godwyn’s corpses. It’s only when you bring them together and brandish the Elden ring that the eclipse finally happens and returns the principle of Death back into the Lands Between(Duskborn Ending).
IIRC, Castle Sol and it’s followers believed that the coming of the eclipse would grant Godwyn a true death or would revive him, which is why the shotel looks similar to the cursebrand. Miquella is mixed in the Castle Sol/ eclipse lore too, and there’s the Golden Epitaph sword description as well. Kinda lends itself to Miquella seeking a true death for Godwyn
Your voice is so soft and calming and comforting! Whenever I don't see your videos for a while and come check them out again I have to get used to it at first, it really calms the anxiety and everything that builds up during everyday life! 😊
It is an interesting idea that Rogier jn the Hold is a spirit, though I am suspecting he might be some kind of inbetween of Those Who Live in Death and actually dead, as he does have a bloodstain at the bottom of Stormveil where we see Rogier getting killed by deathblight, yet here he is in the Hold. So either he is indeed in this “deathspirit” form or deathblight itself doesn’t necessarily mean death as a regular death, but rather as death to join Those Who Live in Death, or maybe if you experience deathblight enough it takes you, kind of like the hollowing from the Souls games. Very curious.
Not shitting on your comment, jus have a genuine question. How do we know it is supposed to be Rogier? And not just a player wearing his outfit? Like is it labeled as Rogier?
@@collinsims2413 There are a few things. First is that that is the only single bloodstain that appears there when you're offline, meaning you can't see any player bloodstains at all, just the developer placed ones. Second the bloodstain is specifically a death animation of a player model dying from Deathblight and that area does not have any enemies or effects that cause Deathblight buildup. Third is Rogier's dialogue option "progresses" only once you interact with the bloodstain, indicating that you "found" the face below the castle, which will trigger his dialogue to discuss it. Hope that clears it up!
@@Lexsed ahh, didnt even think about seeing the bloodstain while offline, or the dialogue progression, and i never actually went down there so i wasnt aware there werent any basilisk or wormface down there. Thanks for the clarification.
IMHO, this is the best presentation on Fia. You covered everything I knew plus a lot more! The theory on Fortissax being Fia is really compelling. I agreenwith you that Fia's ending might be one of the most moral. Great work. 👍
Amazing video! I was actually very sympathetic to Fia. It was actually the ending I chose in my first playthrough. To think that she may be Fortissax in human form, is a great theory. I always wondered why we enter her dream and find a dragon. Keep up the great work!
You do realize her ending is just like Dung Eater's right ? The only difference is that instead of everyone being Omens everyone will be undead instead
That epiphany!!! Fortisaxx = Fia. Is an absolute bombshell! Including the (exile) portion. As we know the dragons attacked Leyndel. This is amazing insight. Thank you!
My only issue with that theory is that Fia is Tarnished meaning she was banished from the lands between long before the Night of Black Knives while the Remembrance of Fortissaxx implies that Fortissaxx has been fighting the curse of death within Godwyn since the Night Black knives becoming corrupted in the failed attempt.
This video couldn't have come at a better time, I just finished my 2nd playthru with her ending! I had...always wondered if her intentions were selfish or selfless...but after watching this I definitely feel it was more of the latter. Thank you for making this lore video and for the other ones you've made so far!! They really help open my eyes to the inner workings of the story. ^-^
I would love to see a Lady Maria (Bloodborne, The Old Hunters) loreplay in the future! Considering your username has chalice in it and the chalice dungeons Bloodborne is well known for, I think expanding into Bloodborne lore would be very fitting. I suggest Maria now because she has a profoundly sympathetic background, which seems to be your area of greatest interest! Excellent content all around; excited to see an up-and-coming lore creator with such evident passion as your cosplays.
I absolutely love how Elden Ring follows Norse Mythology point for point. It's so amazing to have my Heritage represented in such an accurate and respectful manner while also having a completely original story.
This is the 2nd of your videos I've watched, Miss Chalice, and I feel compelled to say: You are absolutely delightful. A breath of fresh air for the platform. I'd like to highlight my favorite aspects of your work: - Looking different and interesting every time is such a fun thing for us as viewers - Your vocal tone is excellent, soft and clear - Your narration is very well written - Your lore is consistently thorough and I'm thus far always surprised by things I hadn't known already I am subbing, and excited to see you succeed if you keep this up.
I loved Fia as a character and I really like her reasoning for everything, she seems to be one of the most morally sound people in the lands between. She wants all life to be equal and shown respect including those who live in death. I like her ending because of her story it's very interesting to me.
@@amai-w8f I think it's meant to be open to interpretation but I'm leaning towards her ending not being bad. The mending rune that Fia gives you says "The Golden Order was created by confining destined death (the rune of death). Thus, this new order will be one of death restored." This implies that the mending rune will simply restore the rune of death. But also Fia saying she wished to be mother to those who live in death and then "birthing" the mending rune could imply that the rune creates more zombies so I don't really know
@@furni2686 Death to the Lands Between gets brought back regardless when we defeat Maliketh, that's the whole reason why we can even burn the Erdtree and kill the Elden Beast. The Mending Rune of Death actually just rewrites the fact that being dead is the end of your life, in other words, being undead now is completely normal so everyone in the Lands Between ends up like those Tibia Mariners when they die and eventually everyone will be in a state of un(death). That's why it is called the age of the "Duskborn", where your "life" starts after you are dead. Fia talks about resurrecting Godwyn but she doesn't want him to change one bit, he is her Prince of Death after all, what Fia means is that the state he currently is should be officially made normal and not something to be hunted or removed from the order... I would only rank the Frenzied Flame as more evil than this one. The most neutral end would be either the Age of Stars where Ranni simply removes the order from the LB and leaves people there to fend for themselves (similar to our world) and the Age of Order where Goldmask makes so that the gods chosen by the Greater Will can't mend with the order anymore (but still bad because the Greater Will persecuted certain races by itself without the need of any God meddling with it.
@@furni2686 He's right. Death is already restored when the rune of death is released. The norm in Elden Ring is that when someone dies their soul goes to the Erdtree and they're birthed anew. What Fias ending does is make living in death the norm. Deathroot spreads everywhere including the Erdtree, which is why there are scenes of decay shown in the ending, everything is grey and foggy, everyone is a skeleton basically. Fia is a traumatised individual with a very warped sense of morality who identifies more with the dead than the living. She's actually very creepy when you start to understand her. Her use of puppets (that she calls champions) makes her no more moral than Seluvis.
@@TheSm1thers this was interesting to read! i was definitely leaning more on Fia being lawful good until this. one thing I appreciate about ER's characters is that they are all multifaceted.
I kind of assumed as a deathbed companion that leads to peaceful death in a way, Fia wanted to help the undead pass on to death peacefully. Instead of being hunted having the opportunity to die on their own terms. So bringing death back to Lands Between would bring them peace. That's my interpretation at least.
Thanks for keeping the content coming! Your cosplays are always so entertaining and well done, and your voice is smooth as silk. Love hearing your insight into the lore of the game. Please, keep these videos coming!
Just here to say that this is beautiful content, and thank you for your work. I look forward to what you’ll do when the DLC comes out. Glad I found this channel. ✊🏿
I really enjoyed this. I felt the story leaned this way myself though not as in-depth as this. It nice to get the details I missed and put the whole story together.
Great video, you are so thorough and explained some stuff I didn't understand! I always thought the age of the duskborn is one where destined death and reincarnation are both gone and instead people become zombies after death.
This was a super cool vid, I finished my NG+ run with the Duskborn ending, and it was a really interesting set of quests and battles. I love the idea that Fia is the companion within the deathbed dream, I never even thought about the fact they could take on the appearance of humans. :D Keep up the great work!
In the southern part of Summonwater town in Limgrave, you can find two skeletons actually having a conversation. I guess this might suggest that Those who live in death might be self-aware? Some of them at least.
Oh miss chalice I have been missing your elden ring lore videos very much! So glad you graced us with another excellent exploration/examination of the ever mysterious world that is elden ring! Thank you!! And love your outfits by the way! Wishing you the best!! :)
I must say I do enjoy the contrast between these well-thought-out, sophisticated long form asmr type videos and the lude memes on instagram and stuff, embracing all facets of human life, or something
Sorry I can't hold it back any longer... this video of yours is still my favourite! I love to just listen to you bringing me all great memories I have for my one and only, Fia. Thank you so much.
The lichdragon is one of my favourite bosses in the game. On a slightly unrelated note, I saw a theory somewhere noticing how the texture of malikeths black blade, is similar to the skin of fortissax, that Being black with speckles/dustings of gold.
The weathered dagger I think belonged to d’s brother who once stood at godwin the goldens corpse, and when you give the dagger to d, he said that he knows who’s dagger it is
I believe the dagger given by Fia is actually D's brothers (Devin also known as D) Which is why he recognizes it and says he will return it to it's owner, You're given a note by Rogier after he dies that D has a brother and he's in the aqueducts after having fought 'The Prince Of Death' which is the 'undead' Godwyn. This explains why the sword/dagger is damaged and cursed by death. You can talk to D's brother and give him D's armour at some part before defeating Fortissax. When you reload the area after defeating Fortissax he will be standing over Fia's body in D's armour then if you reload the area again you can get D's armour (Again) and also the Twinsword known as the Inseparable Sword. Looking at the description of D's Armour you will find that the two D brothers were 'inseparable' because they share a soul, two minds, two bodies, one soul. After avenging his brothers death Devin states he wishes to be taken so he can be with his brother. I don't believe Fia is Fortissax as it is said that because the soul of Godwyn lived on he couldn't truely die and became the prince of death many tried to put him to rest including Fortissax with no success and was corrupted by the prince of death becoming a Lichdragon. "He" Is also reffered to as "the Mightiest Boulderstone, and the brother of Lansseax" at some point. So the reason he is in the dream is because he tried to put Godwyn to rest.
I kept struggling in this video, between paying full attention to the lore and exciting theories, and falling asleep to your soft voice. Great video, great cosplay, great (even if not intentional) asmr, please keep posting!
This is the first video I've seen from you and it's so well done! I love the way you've gone about the narrative and explained it. Keep up the amazing work!
That was an excellent video. It was very informative. I finished Dark Souls 3 a month before finishing Elden Ring with different endings, including the one from your video and I did notice a similarity between that Elden Ring ending and the Third Dark Souls 3 : The Usurpation of Fire, You know that ending where you had to go perform a wedding ceremony with Anri male or Anri female ( depending on the gamer's gender ) and you become the new Ruler and Lord of Hollows( The Undead) in Londor where the Undead can roam free. Gotta love FromSoftware's references to their previous games.
Fia being Fortissax is a cool potentiality. And by the immediate events, they practically tell vanquishing Fortissax and Fia's death afterwards is connected.
fia is my favorite character and too many people hate her or write her off as evil - i never understood it, her narrative always seemed so clearly to be about choice and standing up for those who had none; the ritual-sexual aspects of her character felt like a believable kind of death rite in the world, never something she chose or something based around deceit or trickery. (not to mention that she explains in her first dialogue the nature of what she does re: taking a little vigor in exchange for the ability to ignore pain (poise); in terms of gameplay mechanics, it all translates perfectly within the lore.) thank you for such a beautiful and well-explained analysis of this character!
When I first met her I thought she was evil, but after doing her quest line and watching the video I realized she’s not as bad as many other characters in this game (Ranni)
this was a really interesting video! also i saw in the pinned comment that she was likely forced into it which isn't true at all. she says it was a sacred act so she likely held a priestess role. she was driven out because she saw grace but continued to practice her belief. Fia being fortissax I'm not so sure on either, she likely would have the same dragon eyes the player can get. forti fought against the death within their companion only to be corrupted, i doubt they would just except it now... unless Fia is the result of the death blight corruption! the forti we fight is the last remnants of their fighting will!! which kinda makes me not want to do the duskborn ending just out of respect. also since Godwyns soul is dead and only his body remains, growing like a cancer, what exactly would he be reborn into and would it really be Godwyn? also for naming conventions (we've seen that beings can have different versions of them selves like marika and radagon) -sax seems to be male (dragonlord placidusax) and -seax seems to be female (lansseax). also on an unrelated note if you now live in death you cant really move on, its an undead blessing or ... curse... OH GOD WE'RE ALL GOING TO GO HOLLOW!
On my first playthrough I haphazardly missed/botched her questline. Most of its events just "happened" to me as I was distracted by so much else going on in the game/story. I fought her champions by accident, and even missed SEEING Godwyn entirely (he's somewhat camouflaged, right?)! Then I found out she was connected to an ending, so in my second playthrough I have been sticking close to her. Her questline and story is amazing. It's deep, emotional, well-planned out... it's a shame it is so easily overlooked. Great video, you've hit some amazing points here.
So I have mixed feelings and ideas about this. On one hand you did an amazing job at telling this story, and the insight into Fortissaxx potentially being Fia is something I hadn't considered before. On the other hand, while I do think Fia's intentions are noble, and quite frankly, those I would get behind, I don't think that it fully explains what's going on here. There are...other connections that the two Ds and Fia have with those who live in death, and I don't think they take anything away from your theories, but may add to them, or might make a complete picture. Sorry for being vague, I'm currently working on a script for theories as well. Excellent job on this, I really enjoyed it!
Thank you so much for coming over to my channel!! I'm really pleased you enjoy my theory machinations haha thanks again and I hope you enjoy your stay here :)
I like the speculation you pose on the sequence of events with D following the assassination of Godwyn. I never connected that D cut out the original rune of godwyn. thank you for the insight.
I always thought that it is heavily implied that Fia had sex with her champions and the corpses, in general she is a very promiscuous figure although loyal to her beliefs. The "hug" that she gives us in the game is kinda like an allegory, she was most likely forced to pursue the companion role against her will for the majority of her life
I'm glad you brought this up. It's something that I didn't get around to further explaining. Yes, I agree. It is implied that Fia slept with her champions and nobles.
1. Rogier - She mentions that Rogier talks about the knife prints when 'abed.' This implies some post-intercourse discussion, as one does.
2. Lionel - You find his armour and Fia's dress on a bed. This seems to suggest that they disrobed and had intercourse. What's more interesting is that Lionel claimed to be Fia's father. Scandalous.
3. Godwyn - Fia 'gestates' the rune. She 'lays' with Godwyn's corpse and is impregnated.
Now I personally believe this is not because she wants to, or likes being promiscuous. I think having skin-to-skin contact is a more efficient way of transfering the vigour from a champion to Fia, and from Fia to the noble. Therefore, it is achieving her goal in the quickest method.
We are able to give her some of our vigour, because we are touching whilst hugging. In theory, we should also be able to do so by sleeping with Fia. Obviously if this was a function, it would be a completely different game. But also, the poetic and symbolic meaning would be lost and Fia would only be viewed for that purpose. She is more than just that. But she is also aware of it, that’s why she says “Do you think it vulgar?” She knows the connotations but still views it as sacred.
But yes, you are right. The hug can be seen as an allegory for intercourse :)
@@miss_chalice also, it might not even be actually more effective. Those nobles had power over her. They could easily force her into doing it, or else.
@@miss_chalice I perfectly agree with you, fia deserves a dignity that society took from her, she fought for it through the entire game
In the case of her laying with Godwyn, due to the massive and bizarre form Godwyn is in while she lays next to him, I imagine the conception of the rune is performed in a metaphysical sense through the deathbed dream, or is able to be done through the mere skin-on-skin contact of her sleeping while slouched against Godwyn.
Lifeforce is expended during sex anyways. The whole idea of "essence"
I am, canonically, Fia's Little PogChamp.
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@@camh4659Come on Man
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The first time I hugged Fia was at the exact moment the music in round table hold swelled, it sent melancholy goose bumps through my body and I still don’t think I’ve recovered.
A beautifully weird anomaly to find in a souls game.
Fia being fortissax is actually a really interesting and fun theory considering everything we know about the dragon cults and Godwyn's involvement with them.
I actually love the idea! But it does bring up some questions with her being one of the Tarnished mentioned in the intro cutscene…
However, Fortissax does have Fia in its name… 🤔
@@amplefyre yeah also lansseax being the sister of fortissax raises some more questions
@@amplefyre if a dragon could see the guidance of grace and then take the form of a tarnished then yeahhhh but I think it’s a bit of a reach but a fun idea
@@Alleywaycreamcup well lansseax took human form so if anything its a hint
@@colorpg152 that is true but fia never mentions any relatives she only ever talks about being forced to leave her home I feel like if the two were some how connected she would drop a hint or two about it. Besides all that the theory is so good I’m willing to just accept it as my own personal head cannon anyway
i just love how entire concept of godwyn and his back story is inspired by balder from norse mythology
going to read up on this right now!
How? Baldur and Godwyn have very little in common as far as I can tell
@@chrispysaid A lot of people speculate Marika(Freya) shattered the Elden Ring because Godwyn(Baldur) was murdered in the NOTBK which caused the Shattering(Ragnarok). Ranni would’ve been Loki in this parallel.
@@chrispysaid Baldur was the beloved golden boy of the Norse Pantheon, Godwyn is literally "the Golden." Baldur was invulnerable to everything except mistletoe due to the head goddess Freya, Godwyn like all other demigods was thought to be completely immortal. Baldur was killed by a betrayal from fellow divine figure Loki using mistletoe, the only weapon that could harm him, Godwyn was killed by a betrayal from fellow demigod Ranni using the Black Knives, the only weapon known to kill demigods. Baldur's death is the first in the chain that results in Ragnarok, Godwyn's death triggers the Shattering. Baldur is said to eventually resurrect as the new god, Godwyn is mutated as the Prince of Death who can through the Tarnished become the dominant power.
It's frankly more impressive that you think they don't have much in common when what little we know of Baldur maps fairly simply onto Godwyn.
@@Firestorm6651 they're probably thinking about god of war
If no one mentioned this, it was more likely that the weathered dagger was Devins. It was said Devin, Darian's brother had seen the corpse of Godwyn. Darian does like us quite a bit and likely woulda said "oh, u found my dagger." But instead he said he knows who's it is. I'd imagine there was a time where Darian was the "lesser" brother, and Devin was the greater until his traumatization at realization of death being yk...a thing in the world now, and having seen the prince of death.
The dagger's description mentions the black withering on it. Devin used the dagger to cut the half wheelmark, the Mark of the Centipede, from Godwyn's flesh. That's why Fia says the first half was recovered from Roundtable Hold. She kills Darian with Deathblight and takes Godwyn's half of the mark back. That's why she also points you toward Rogier's quest. He's searching for the key that will lead to the other half, and thus to her being able to birth her mending rune, allowing Those Who Live In Death into the new order.
Fia, the only NPC who provides us all with the one thing we all require: to be held.
Also a special shoutout to Fortissax the Loyal, who stayed with his friend till the end.
It's weird, because we never hear the perspective of those who live in death. The golden order claims that they are constantly suffering and only a proper death will give them peace, Fia instead, says that they need to be loved and accepted as part of the new order. When we meet them they attack us, but is it out of fear of persecution or are they really just mindless zombies? Regardless, this was the ending i first went with, i wanted to believe that Fia was right, but something about it never quite sat right with me.
You bring up some interesting points! I agree, I think it's interesting that Fia acts on behalf of the Those Who Live in Death (TWLID). BUT also Godwyn! Does Godwyn consent? Does he want to be rebirthed, in some fashion? I viewed it through the lense that they did. But if you start to consider if from a different angle, it can paint Fia as the villain. Keeping TWLID alive, not leaving them to rest could be a torturous fate.
Very thought-provoking stuff! Thanks for your comment :)
Godwyn... Is a body, I doubt Godwyn can consent to anything. Not that he'd need to, because Godwyn is for all intents and purposes an object. But the rest of TWLID... I am not sure. They have basic intelligence for sure. Sentience is debatable. It's really hard to tell when they are skeleton enemies in Dark Souls. Were they in a game with AI more focused on non interactions with the player character, we might have been able to study their behaviours, but with what we are given, it's a hard bargain to draw conclusions.
@@goncalocarneiro3043 strangely the only time ve ever talked with sutch a charakter was in DS2 with the pale guardian guy that despises light
If they suffer the same fate as Godwyn, they don't have a soul, there's no perspective from them because they aren't beings. They are just moving corpses.
Agreed. Life in death would be eternal, and as such no different from Marika's flawed order where no one is allowed to die.
One thing I would add is that when Fia is resting beside Godwyn's corpse waiting for you to bring her the second part of the rune of death, if you attack her she says:
"Godwyn... Is that you, dear?"
Then several skulls are launched from the body of Godwyn directly above Fia and aim at the player. It's not really dangerous and it's easily dodged. But this does have some VERY disturbing implications:
-This means that Fia can communicate directly with Godywn to some degree. Or Godwyn can communicate with her and therefore potentially others.
-Godwyn is sentient, aware and can interact with the living world, even to a violent degree.
-Godwyn likes/approves of Fia, since he tries to protect her.
-Godwyn is corrupting and spreading his will through the Erdtree/lands between on purpose. He probably has a plan/goal.
-Since he is aware of Fia/his corpses surroundings, it's possible this extends to all parts of himself (His corruption through the Erdtree roots) meaning he might be somewhat omnipresent.
If that's all correct, Godywn is terrifying.
The big issue is that Godwyn is only half dead in the worst possible way.
Ranni got the easy end of things with her body dying (no biggy she's basically the most powerful witch at the time of Elden Ring since Rennala's prime is long past) with her magic/overall power allowing her to posses the dolls she takes the form of
Godwyn's soul - what made him Godwyn, his personality and sense of morality - is gone forever. What's left behind is the body of a demigod that's literally *gone hollow*. His burial at the base of the erdtree was BIG oopsy as all the deathroot and eye-trees and crabs with his face on the back are his doing. He is the first undead - a being held aloft by nothing but his own body. HE'S BASICALLY NITO BUT AT LEAST NITO HAS A SOUL
The Lichdragon Fortissax boss fight is cool and all, but I feel cheated out of a monster Godwyn boss fight. How do you design this amazing abomination, plunk it down at the end of this massive optional area, and not make it the final boss of her quest line?
Doesn't it also imply that she associates being attacked/hurt with Godwyn? She thought we were him...meaning it's not the first time he has hurt her.
Godwyns plan is not a goal! He was forced to die and now painfully live !
@@miomio6890 um no
That was a very interesting take, especially the part that Fia could be a dragon in disguise. This brings up some interesting questions.
1. What's Fia's relationship with Destined Death and Farum Azula?
Is Farum Azula the land she was driven out from?
In Farum Azula we find the Wormface, who cursed you with death.
The Dragons are in Farum Azula
This is where Maliketh is found, protecting the remaining part of the rune of death.
🤔🤔
I love the theory that Fia is Fortissax, I've never heard that idea put forth by anyone else and it makes perfect sense to me. Thank you for this incredible video and the equally wonderful cosplay!
I'd love to hear more detail on your theory, what has led to you thinking that? 🙂
@@vooligan9499 When you kill him she dies.
@@vooligan9499
1. Letters match in their names, and names tend to be clues in Elden Ring
2. Both are called companions of Godwyn
3. Devotion to Godwyn
4. Dragons can take human form
5. Tarnished don't have to be human (Goldmask)
6. Godrick calls a dragon 'kindred' which may be literal. Might be a descendant of Marika through Godwyn and a dragon
7. Cult of the Dragon thriving despite most other Golden Order enemies being subject to genocide
8. If you hit Fia, she calls Godwyn 'my dear' instead of master or Lord. It seems more familiar, like she once knew him
@@Trotsworth Further to the naming point, Fia is in FortIssAx and the letters afterward do a count down F-3-I-2-A-1. Since as you said that she dies as Fortissax dies, it could be dev poetic license that as you see the name for the first and the last time you're counting down till the end of her life and the completion of her goals. Just another theory but yeah.
If that's the case then Fia has contraditory motivations.
Broo the cosplay is really cool but I also like the lore being explained. Your voice is also really soft and quiet, pretty good asmr if you ask me
Thank you so much for your kind words! I'm really glad you enjoyed all facets of my videos :)
I don't actually think it was Darian that removed the cursemark - I think it was Devin. Darian mentions that he knows who the blade belongs to, not that it's *his* . Also, Devin is resting in the underground, and I can't remember where it was said, but something (I believe an item description, or dialogue, or something) says that he supposedly lost his mind after witnessing the Prince of Death. That means Devin, also a hunter of Those Who Live In Death, has at one point been in the presence of Godwyn's corpse. I believe Devin is the one who found Godwyn, shattered his own dagger removing the cursemark from Godwyn's body, and then ended up in Siofra after going mad. Darian, of course, is not going to amicable towarsa Fia, but I don't think he was the owner of the dagger. I think Fia was removing the last threat, Devin's twin brother, who would almost certainly attempt the same thing. Devin has already gone mad, and without the Tarnished's interference, will simply sit in the aqueducts and do nothing. He is not a threat anymore. Darian still is, so Fia must get rid of him.
So if I temporarily sacrifice 5% of my health, the pretty lady gives me a hug? Sure, I'm desperate enough to go for it.
Sometimes, I only logged on just to hug her.
The Rogier theory where he’s dead makes a lot of sense. If you go into Stormveil castle to the bottom where you fight the ulcerated tree spirit there is a blood stain. It’s Rogier getting death blighted. There is a dialogue option for it when you talk to Rogier if you find it.
I remember seeing that, and thinking it was so odd! I knew next to nothing about the game, its narrative or its systems at that point, but I knew right away I saw Rogier dying in that spot.
I spent the whole of my playthrough up until near the very end rejecting her hugs because I had suspicions about her. But then I finally concede to her offer of a hug, and after all the agony of the game at that point as soon as she gently said “You are very warm!” I literally burst into tears! The hug is just as much for the player! 😭
Dude I felt this one so hard ngl just got dumped and needed that hug 😂
@@Someguywithalotoftism Gamers can now expireience hugs, truly one of the games of all time.
Lol.. I'm reading this and just now realizing she usually hugs dying bodies which are probably a lot colder
@@michaelwerkov3438 Oh my god 😂
@@legendgamer676 you have serious trust issues 😂
07:36 omg thank you for putting the Golden Centipede and Cursemark side by side. Just a little thang with great power.
it's a shame Fia's quest doesn't get a unique ending
i really don't get the reason of the palette swap endings
The same thing that happens to every fromsoft game near the end
@sabineschmidt762 their endings are the only good parts about the final acts, some of the only games i think have satisfying endings are fromsoft games, but they all have the same similar feeling towards the end i know other rpgs do it like act 3 in bg3 isnt as good as 1 n 2 but its still a lot more fleshed out and wasnt as rushed as say, farum azula or the bed of chaos
@sabineschmidt762my initial point was that all fromsoft games still end in mostly palette swaps
@@grantpowers663 Really the only distinct endings here are the bloodborne great old one ending and the lord of hollows ending in ds3 because they actually require you to follow an additional path, infact elden rings palette swap endings require far more different circumstances throughout the game then any other fromsoft ending. And yes, i'm comparing farum azula to the bed of chaos. Maybe it feels weird teleporting for seemingly no reason from what was one big interconnected area to an atomized area seperate completely on its own, with the lowest enemy variety in the entire game - beastmen, banished knights we've been fighting the entire game, and a Lansseax clone. Truly pushing the envelope
That is a bummer,
frenzy flame & Ranni endings get unique cinematics.
As for the default, Golden order, dung eater & Fias ending?: you sit on the throne with diffrent filters. Done
I never thought of this, but it makes sense that Fortissax would assume the form of Fia since the death of Godwyn
Your voice is so gentle, really nice to hear your lore/theory videos.
20:22 Lately I’ve been playing with the idea that the eclipse is the origin of Destined Death. If you look at the Eclipse Shotel, it bears a striking resemblance to the halfwheel cursemark found on Ranni’s and Godwyn’s corpses. It’s only when you bring them together and brandish the Elden ring that the eclipse finally happens and returns the principle of Death back into the Lands Between(Duskborn Ending).
Destined Death is a Rune, part of the elden ring that was removed and stored elswhere. Thats where it comes from.
@@dgalloway107 you’re a rune.
IIRC, Castle Sol and it’s followers believed that the coming of the eclipse would grant Godwyn a true death or would revive him, which is why the shotel looks similar to the cursebrand. Miquella is mixed in the Castle Sol/ eclipse lore too, and there’s the Golden Epitaph sword description as well. Kinda lends itself to Miquella seeking a true death for Godwyn
@@DredgenAand then Miquella got lost in the sauce and followed the same steps as [REDACTED]
@@ChargeQM yeah, not sure why they went that direction
I’m really happy how slow paced you were, it made me understand everything a lot better than other videos.
Love Fia and the intrigue she brings, along with the poetic symbolism entwined in her quest line. 10/10, would hug again.
Your voice is so soft and calming and comforting! Whenever I don't see your videos for a while and come check them out again I have to get used to it at first, it really calms the anxiety and everything that builds up during everyday life! 😊
It is an interesting idea that Rogier jn the Hold is a spirit, though I am suspecting he might be some kind of inbetween of Those Who Live in Death and actually dead, as he does have a bloodstain at the bottom of Stormveil where we see Rogier getting killed by deathblight, yet here he is in the Hold.
So either he is indeed in this “deathspirit” form or deathblight itself doesn’t necessarily mean death as a regular death, but rather as death to join Those Who Live in Death, or maybe if you experience deathblight enough it takes you, kind of like the hollowing from the Souls games.
Very curious.
yeah, never noticed the bloodstain until playing the coop mod with friends. blew my mind lol
Not shitting on your comment, jus have a genuine question.
How do we know it is supposed to be Rogier? And not just a player wearing his outfit?
Like is it labeled as Rogier?
@@collinsims2413 There are a few things.
First is that that is the only single bloodstain that appears there when you're offline, meaning you can't see any player bloodstains at all, just the developer placed ones.
Second the bloodstain is specifically a death animation of a player model dying from Deathblight and that area does not have any enemies or effects that cause Deathblight buildup.
Third is Rogier's dialogue option "progresses" only once you interact with the bloodstain, indicating that you "found" the face below the castle, which will trigger his dialogue to discuss it.
Hope that clears it up!
@@Lexsed ahh, didnt even think about seeing the bloodstain while offline, or the dialogue progression, and i never actually went down there so i wasnt aware there werent any basilisk or wormface down there.
Thanks for the clarification.
IMHO, this is the best presentation on Fia. You covered everything I knew plus a lot more! The theory on Fortissax being Fia is really compelling. I agreenwith you that Fia's ending might be one of the most moral. Great work. 👍
love the cosplay, Loved the lore video. thank you and your voice is so soothing. Keep up the great work!
I've watched probably hundreds of hours of Elden Ring lore at this point...and this was the first I've heard of Fia being Fortissax. And I love it!
That theory of Fia actually being Fortissax is pretty awesome lol. Woulda never put that together.
It's pretty wild but most likely not true. There are many holes in the theory! But it's fun to think about :)
Amazing video! I was actually very sympathetic to Fia. It was actually the ending I chose in my first playthrough. To think that she may be Fortissax in human form, is a great theory. I always wondered why we enter her dream and find a dragon. Keep up the great work!
You do realize her ending is just like Dung Eater's right ? The only difference is that instead of everyone being Omens everyone will be undead instead
That epiphany!!! Fortisaxx = Fia. Is an absolute bombshell! Including the (exile) portion. As we know the dragons attacked Leyndel.
This is amazing insight. Thank you!
My only issue with that theory is that Fia is Tarnished meaning she was banished from the lands between long before the Night of Black Knives while the Remembrance of Fortissaxx implies that Fortissaxx has been fighting the curse of death within Godwyn since the Night Black knives becoming corrupted in the failed attempt.
Chalice's blessing. Gentlly spoken words hug your ears, granting a tingling effect, adds sleep effect. 😛
This video couldn't have come at a better time, I just finished my 2nd playthru with her ending! I had...always wondered if her intentions were selfish or selfless...but after watching this I definitely feel it was more of the latter. Thank you for making this lore video and for the other ones you've made so far!! They really help open my eyes to the inner workings of the story. ^-^
As someone who went with the Fia ending in my first playthrough due to how interesting I found her quests + dialogue, I really liked this video.
I don't know if it's intentional, but I love how your demeanor and voice is soothing like Fia.
I like that everyone brings something unique to the mix. Now we need to get Vaati to do a "let me solo her" cosplay
I would love to see a Lady Maria (Bloodborne, The Old Hunters) loreplay in the future! Considering your username has chalice in it and the chalice dungeons Bloodborne is well known for, I think expanding into Bloodborne lore would be very fitting.
I suggest Maria now because she has a profoundly sympathetic background, which seems to be your area of greatest interest!
Excellent content all around; excited to see an up-and-coming lore creator with such evident passion as your cosplays.
Your telling of this story was thrilling. I now need to being a new playthrough
Fia’s cuddles drove me to reach the Duskborn ending. Also, are those Classical Greek patterns I see on your robes??? Pretty Cosplay!
My mind was blown by that theory of Fia being Fortissax
I absolutely love how Elden Ring follows Norse Mythology point for point. It's so amazing to have my Heritage represented in such an accurate and respectful manner while also having a completely original story.
This is the 2nd of your videos I've watched, Miss Chalice, and I feel compelled to say: You are absolutely delightful. A breath of fresh air for the platform. I'd like to highlight my favorite aspects of your work:
- Looking different and interesting every time is such a fun thing for us as viewers
- Your vocal tone is excellent, soft and clear
- Your narration is very well written
- Your lore is consistently thorough and I'm thus far always surprised by things I hadn't known already
I am subbing, and excited to see you succeed if you keep this up.
Me finding out D killed Fia: your free trial of playing knight has ended
Me: good job
I loved Fia as a character and I really like her reasoning for everything, she seems to be one of the most morally sound people in the lands between. She wants all life to be equal and shown respect including those who live in death. I like her ending because of her story it's very interesting to me.
Morally sound ? i think you got tricked by her demeanor and this vdieo, what she wants is a zombified world. Her ending is similar to Dung Eater's
@@amai-w8f I think it's meant to be open to interpretation but I'm leaning towards her ending not being bad. The mending rune that Fia gives you says "The Golden Order was created by confining destined death (the rune of death). Thus, this new order will be one of death restored." This implies that the mending rune will simply restore the rune of death. But also Fia saying she wished to be mother to those who live in death and then "birthing" the mending rune could imply that the rune creates more zombies so I don't really know
@@furni2686 Death to the Lands Between gets brought back regardless when we defeat Maliketh, that's the whole reason why we can even burn the Erdtree and kill the Elden Beast. The Mending Rune of Death actually just rewrites the fact that being dead is the end of your life, in other words, being undead now is completely normal so everyone in the Lands Between ends up like those Tibia Mariners when they die and eventually everyone will be in a state of un(death). That's why it is called the age of the "Duskborn", where your "life" starts after you are dead.
Fia talks about resurrecting Godwyn but she doesn't want him to change one bit, he is her Prince of Death after all, what Fia means is that the state he currently is should be officially made normal and not something to be hunted or removed from the order... I would only rank the Frenzied Flame as more evil than this one. The most neutral end would be either the Age of Stars where Ranni simply removes the order from the LB and leaves people there to fend for themselves (similar to our world) and the Age of Order where Goldmask makes so that the gods chosen by the Greater Will can't mend with the order anymore (but still bad because the Greater Will persecuted certain races by itself without the need of any God meddling with it.
@@furni2686 He's right. Death is already restored when the rune of death is released. The norm in Elden Ring is that when someone dies their soul goes to the Erdtree and they're birthed anew. What Fias ending does is make living in death the norm. Deathroot spreads everywhere including the Erdtree, which is why there are scenes of decay shown in the ending, everything is grey and foggy, everyone is a skeleton basically.
Fia is a traumatised individual with a very warped sense of morality who identifies more with the dead than the living. She's actually very creepy when you start to understand her. Her use of puppets (that she calls champions) makes her no more moral than Seluvis.
@@TheSm1thers this was interesting to read! i was definitely leaning more on Fia being lawful good until this. one thing I appreciate about ER's characters is that they are all multifaceted.
Best Fia's cosplay very fitting
I kind of assumed as a deathbed companion that leads to peaceful death in a way, Fia wanted to help the undead pass on to death peacefully. Instead of being hunted having the opportunity to die on their own terms. So bringing death back to Lands Between would bring them peace. That's my interpretation at least.
Thanks for keeping the content coming! Your cosplays are always so entertaining and well done, and your voice is smooth as silk. Love hearing your insight into the lore of the game. Please, keep these videos coming!
It struck me right now, the mending rune of the death prince resembles an eclipse, like the one depicted on the mausoleum soldiers shields and armors
This is a crazy good lore video. There’s a lot of information I missed in the game and haven’t seen presented elsewhere. Thank you.
Just here to say that this is beautiful content, and thank you for your work. I look forward to what you’ll do when the DLC comes out. Glad I found this channel. ✊🏿
I really enjoyed this. I felt the story leaned this way myself though not as in-depth as this. It nice to get the details I missed and put the whole story together.
Great video, you are so thorough and explained some stuff I didn't understand! I always thought the age of the duskborn is one where destined death and reincarnation are both gone and instead people become zombies after death.
This was a super cool vid, I finished my NG+ run with the Duskborn ending, and it was a really interesting set of quests and battles. I love the idea that Fia is the companion within the deathbed dream, I never even thought about the fact they could take on the appearance of humans. :D
Keep up the great work!
In the southern part of Summonwater town in Limgrave, you can find two skeletons actually having a conversation.
I guess this might suggest that Those who live in death might be self-aware? Some of them at least.
Oh miss chalice I have been missing your elden ring lore videos very much! So glad you graced us with another excellent exploration/examination of the ever mysterious world that is elden ring! Thank you!! And love your outfits by the way! Wishing you the best!! :)
This is a great explanation of Fia. Also, you voice is incredibly soothing. It helped me cope with my.. numerous deaths in Elden Ring. 😝
I must say I do enjoy the contrast between these well-thought-out, sophisticated long form asmr type videos and the lude memes on instagram and stuff, embracing all facets of human life, or something
Story telling is amazing! Me and my daughter watch this
Sorry I can't hold it back any longer... this video of yours is still my favourite! I love to just listen to you bringing me all great memories I have for my one and only, Fia. Thank you so much.
As a fellow Fia simp, I think you are going a little overboard with the simping.
@@AutismGaming489 Should I delete my comment then?
@@ekosandvic7598 I don’t know. Up to you. Btw, she only sees you as a friend.
@@AutismGaming489 Who?
@@ekosandvic7598 Both.
Wait, this format is kinda cool. Explaining lore while in cosplay is unique and fun.
That’s so interesting I never actually thought about Fortissax actually being Fia 😮
The lichdragon is one of my favourite bosses in the game. On a slightly unrelated note, I saw a theory somewhere noticing how the texture of malikeths black blade, is similar to the skin of fortissax, that Being black with speckles/dustings of gold.
Your vid popped up in my suggestions: 10/10 cosplay, 10/10 lore, great quality length, sub earned 👍🏾
Excellent work. I really enjoyed the connection between Fia and the Lich Dragon and think you may be onto something there.
What I'm most impressed by was Fia being able to bypass the protection offered by the Roundtable Hold.
The weathered dagger I think belonged to d’s brother who once stood at godwin the goldens corpse, and when you give the dagger to d, he said that he knows who’s dagger it is
I just can't believe how can the creators come up with such an intertwined and complex lore. Love your content!
I believe the dagger given by Fia is actually D's brothers (Devin also known as D) Which is why he recognizes it and says he will return it to it's owner, You're given a note by Rogier after he dies that D has a brother and he's in the aqueducts after having fought 'The Prince Of Death' which is the 'undead' Godwyn. This explains why the sword/dagger is damaged and cursed by death.
You can talk to D's brother and give him D's armour at some part before defeating Fortissax. When you reload the area after defeating Fortissax he will be standing over Fia's body in D's armour then if you reload the area again you can get D's armour (Again) and also the Twinsword known as the Inseparable Sword.
Looking at the description of D's Armour you will find that the two D brothers were 'inseparable' because they share a soul, two minds, two bodies, one soul. After avenging his brothers death Devin states he wishes to be taken so he can be with his brother.
I don't believe Fia is Fortissax as it is said that because the soul of Godwyn lived on he couldn't truely die and became the prince of death many tried to put him to rest including Fortissax with no success and was corrupted by the prince of death becoming a Lichdragon. "He" Is also reffered to as "the Mightiest Boulderstone, and the brother of Lansseax" at some point. So the reason he is in the dream is because he tried to put Godwyn to rest.
Interesting, I think one of the other things about Godwin is that his influence extends into the lands between and curiously in the DLC?
I kept struggling in this video, between paying full attention to the lore and exciting theories, and falling asleep to your soft voice. Great video, great cosplay, great (even if not intentional) asmr, please keep posting!
This is the first video I've seen from you and it's so well done! I love the way you've gone about the narrative and explained it. Keep up the amazing work!
That was an excellent video. It was very informative. I finished Dark Souls 3 a month before finishing Elden Ring with different endings, including the one from your video and I did notice a similarity between that Elden Ring ending and the Third Dark Souls 3 : The Usurpation of Fire, You know that ending where you had to go perform a wedding ceremony with Anri male or Anri female ( depending on the gamer's gender ) and you become the new Ruler and Lord of Hollows( The Undead) in Londor where the Undead can roam free. Gotta love FromSoftware's references to their previous games.
I love the fia and Forti connection you're speculating.
Fia being Fortissax is a cool potentiality. And by the immediate events, they practically tell vanquishing Fortissax and Fia's death afterwards is connected.
fia is my favorite character and too many people hate her or write her off as evil - i never understood it, her narrative always seemed so clearly to be about choice and standing up for those who had none; the ritual-sexual aspects of her character felt like a believable kind of death rite in the world, never something she chose or something based around deceit or trickery. (not to mention that she explains in her first dialogue the nature of what she does re: taking a little vigor in exchange for the ability to ignore pain (poise); in terms of gameplay mechanics, it all translates perfectly within the lore.) thank you for such a beautiful and well-explained analysis of this character!
When you attack fia, death rancor comes out and she asks if it’s her dear godwyn
8:56
The eeriness and echoing of Rogier's voice reminds me of the voice effects in ShadowMan.
Both amazing games.
When I first met her I thought she was evil, but after doing her quest line and watching the video I realized she’s not as bad as many other characters in this game (Ranni)
Happy one year anniversary of this video being up! Fia is my favorite character and you have did her character justice. She is best girl and waifu!
A gift from the lore mommy has blessed us in these hard times!
lore blessings for all!
Don't give them to your parents!
Always happy when you post, your ideos are blessed. Really love them and all the work you put into the research, the visuals and the cosplay.
I like the idea that she is the dragon, it explains a lot and is really cool fantasy flavor
Your voice is so relaxing. Thank you for explaining her lore.
I never thought about Fia being Fortissax but that's very interesting and could clearly be an awesome discover! 😮
I NEVER even thought that Fortisax might be Fia in human form...that is wild
I hope in future you explain rich and deep lore of other games ofcourse with this top notch cosplay. Thank your for you work.
Thank you for your comment ! I am actually working on covering other games, and of course you can expect cosplay to accompany them!
Please don’t stop making lore videos !!!
this was a really interesting video! also i saw in the pinned comment that she was likely forced into it which isn't true at all. she says it was a sacred act so she likely held a priestess role. she was driven out because she saw grace but continued to practice her belief. Fia being fortissax I'm not so sure on either, she likely would have the same dragon eyes the player can get. forti fought against the death within their companion only to be corrupted, i doubt they would just except it now... unless Fia is the result of the death blight corruption! the forti we fight is the last remnants of their fighting will!! which kinda makes me not want to do the duskborn ending just out of respect. also since Godwyns soul is dead and only his body remains, growing like a cancer, what exactly would he be reborn into and would it really be Godwyn? also for naming conventions (we've seen that beings can have different versions of them selves like marika and radagon) -sax seems to be male (dragonlord placidusax) and -seax seems to be female (lansseax). also on an unrelated note if you now live in death you cant really move on, its an undead blessing or ... curse... OH GOD WE'RE ALL GOING TO GO HOLLOW!
On my first playthrough I haphazardly missed/botched her questline. Most of its events just "happened" to me as I was distracted by so much else going on in the game/story. I fought her champions by accident, and even missed SEEING Godwyn entirely (he's somewhat camouflaged, right?)! Then I found out she was connected to an ending, so in my second playthrough I have been sticking close to her. Her questline and story is amazing. It's deep, emotional, well-planned out... it's a shame it is so easily overlooked.
Great video, you've hit some amazing points here.
Age of the duskborn was my first ending because Fia was the one that got me through the game
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Your voice definitely needs to be in a Fromsoft game. Love your delivery and the way you present the lore. It’s very refreshing. Well done!
this made me feel better while ill. thank you my love
A lore vid has never been that beautiful before
So I have mixed feelings and ideas about this. On one hand you did an amazing job at telling this story, and the insight into Fortissaxx potentially being Fia is something I hadn't considered before.
On the other hand, while I do think Fia's intentions are noble, and quite frankly, those I would get behind, I don't think that it fully explains what's going on here. There are...other connections that the two Ds and Fia have with those who live in death, and I don't think they take anything away from your theories, but may add to them, or might make a complete picture.
Sorry for being vague, I'm currently working on a script for theories as well. Excellent job on this, I really enjoyed it!
Looking through lore videos. Your voice caught my attention. Its very soothing
Ma'am, Fortissax = Fia BLEW my mind! I'm so glad Vaati sent us your way 🔥💯
Thank you so much for coming over to my channel!! I'm really pleased you enjoy my theory machinations haha thanks again and I hope you enjoy your stay here :)
Fia being Fortissax!? That would make a lot of sense! Omg
the lore, the explanation, the costume. instant subscribe
You should unsub, this video is incorrect according to lore
I like the speculation you pose on the sequence of events with D following the assassination of Godwyn. I never connected that D cut out the original rune of godwyn. thank you for the insight.