I absolutely love two tone. Yes, there is this view that they are an old man watch. A watch of the 80s. But I am a 50 year old man. A child of the 80s and it fits. I worked hard to buy the watches I love and I am not in a career where a gold watch would fit. It would get too damaged. To me a two tone represents the strength of steel. The hard work and it’s tool watch origin and the gold represents success. That’s what I love about watches though. There are watches for everyone and they represent and mean so many different things to so many different people. It starts conversation and forms the basis for a story….
I don't want to spoil your party, but Hillary didn't wear an Explorer while climbing Mount Everest, but a Smiths watch. He was indeed in possession of an Explorer but had left it behind at base camp.
There’s not enough evidence for it some evidence shows it was in his bagpack/pocket some shows he indeed left it behind but it was definitely not on his wrist that much is for sure
In high altitude climbing, indeed any climbing but especially high altitude, weight is critical. There is no way Hillary decided to summit with two metal watches on that’s just beyond ridiculous. The Rolex sponsorship was worth some money so Hillary downplayed this fact that he left it at camp. Anyway who really cares. Hillary got lucky anyway that the Swiss team the year before lucked out with some bad weather, getting only 240m from the summit.
@@thegorneven still its all a speculation so it doesnt matter rolex isnt wrong in saying it was on everest as well Most watch heritage is manipulated and shady to some degree so unless we can prove something its pointless the hardcore evidence just isnt there
That's not really his point. Max is talking about what he sees as the essential character of the Explorer and connoting the Everest moment. He of all people is aware of the doubt around whether Hillary was actually wearing, or carrying, ( which I doubt, I mean what's the point of that? ), the watch to the top of the world. On a side note - If, and I mean if, he actually carried that watch all the way up in his back pack or whatever just to truthfully and faithfully say to Rolex that it was up there at that moment, then I would believe that he was the one to first reach the top rather than Tenzing. If he left it at camp and simply lied about it being at the top then he gives me reason to doubt being there before Tenzing. We'll never know.
That would have been one hell of an accomplishment to have an Explorer with him considering it didn’t even exist yet. If you are going to correct others, might want to get your own facts right
The grey and gold on the Sub is a nice combination. - The two tone Santos works really well, one of the best two tone watches out there. The 70s were not very rounded, the watch represents this aesthetic
thank you for releasing these Anachronist episodes! Fully understand it takes ages to edit a video but if there turn into a long form audio podcast with You (Max) and the guest that would be so so so much fun! 😎
Yes Camp is spot on. As the 40's - 60's aged guys now, all had dads who rocked two tone expandable band watches. That has carried over to this gen. Couple that with the skater Nixon-wearing all gilt gold quartz watches and the u give these GenX and Y guys money, u get whats going on now with Camp. Thx Max👍🏼
Been enjoying Hamza’s content and visiting his site a lot recently. As someone who fetishizes two tone five digit Datejusts, I’m happy to see that Hamza turns to be my kinda guys. Call em campy, gaudy or even gnarly, cant deny that we’re having fun with these two tone watches! Is Anachronist available in any podcast platform? Would love to listen to the longer versions.
I'm just curious, are these 'podcasts' really this short? Or is there a longer complete version somewhere else? Seems like a waste and an unfinished conversation that I want to hear / see a lot more of. Clarification appreciated 😊
I purchased an Explorer 124270 in mid-August; at a local AD; with no previous purchase history and waited a little over three weeks since my initial meeting with the sales associate. 🤷♂️ $0.02
@@MrFloRolf technically, that was my second attempt, same watch, same AD, different SA. I tried in 2022, but in hindsight, I wasn't that serious; I already had my eye on a Speedmaster elsewhere and that trip was more of, "let's see what happens." Incidentally, my coworker, who was with me at the time, managed to get a 126200 Datejust about three weeks after that trip. This time around, I registered interest on this AD's website and was invited, by email, to come in to view exhibition models. Unlike last time, I stayed on point, made it clear I wanted an 124270. I was shown the two tone, to handle and see on wrist, but this SA actually owned and was wearing a 124270, took his off his wrist and let me handle it. I really appreciated that. What followed was part interview and part watch geeks geeking out over watches. I haven't asked him yet and I don't know if he will disclose, but I think the question and answer that won him over was when he asked me what specifically do I like about the Explorer. I told him it was, "understated and versatile...I want a Rolex, but I don't necessarily want a non-watch person to recognize that I'm wearing a Rolex." Happy hunting.
Max looking like a Yakuza boss in miami with the pink pineapple shirt and the gold watch! Love to see it. This is such an interested topic for me. I've never been a fan of silver watches, alwys gold or two tone, not to be gaudy but my skin tone and im just not a fan of silver tones.
Great conversation and video. I'm not sure I'll ever get into "campy" watches. I'm more of a sports style watch guy. 216570 Polar and No-Date Ceramic Sub are my mainstays.
I agree, i want the mid sized two tone Santos!! I was a little torn, but willprobably go with the two tone. Currently waiting for my GMT CHNR, which will be my first two tone. After a couple of watches, i feel like I’m ready now😄
5:55 I have exact same quartz Constellation inherited by my grandpa, complete with its red box and papers. Not my go to daily wear watch, but it has really deep meaning to me.
Gentlemen, I actually just tried on the two-tone GMT Master II this past weekend, and as you know, it was freaking amazing... and I hate gold. Even I was like OMG, I have to have this... eventually.
I dont think i'll ever go two tone. Solid precious metal or full stainless steel. It's either one way or the other for me- no middle ground. "Do or do not, there is no try"😁
Congrats on the new GMT. I like the two tone and the bezel - but Rolex really executed the GMT hand poorly - not enough difference to make it easy to quickly spot. Not sure this is the time to buy a Rolex - more and more countries going into recession - patience. More people will get the call and more flippers will be distressed in the next 6 months.
I hope you’re right 🤞🏻 good times. I hoped for the same when covid started, but instead prices reached an old time high😅 i’m going two tone too, waiting for my Root Beer. Got a DJ 36 mint green fluted on Jubilée after 3 months this summer😃
Imo, I think that the Black Bay 36 S&G is FAR more campy than the explorer two-tone, maybe it's the snowflake handset. Also, I *really* want to buy a Black Bay 36 S&G at some point **chef's kiss**
Great video. Although I am not a Rolex fan, I still appreciate the content. I just don't get the hype for Rolex watches - especially the Sub. You pay a lot of money for a hideous green box, a dull case back with no design, a cheaply stamped dial with no applied logo, too much text above 6 o'clock and an uninspiring undecorated movement. For the asking price, it should be much, much better. You are better off buying a beautiful Longines and spend the rest of the cash on a vacation to Italy.
While I am happy to put some effort to acquire a Rolex again some day, I am not interested in playing AD games. Haven't looked back since selling my Rolex and won't return to the brand until the situation significantly changes - and if not, so be it. The brand isn't interesting enough to pay a premium for
There’s no harm in walking in, having a nice chat, and expressing your interest in the model you want. That’s just the bare minimum. Then you can just pretend in your mind that you didn’t actually do any of that-just forget it ever happened. Get on with the rest of your life. If you get the call, great! If you don’t, well, it’s not like that would change anything. You miss all the shots you don’t take, or something. Waiting on my 4th Rolex from my local boutique
@@vincent67239 Glad you are enjoying the experience and your watches. The relative effort is simply not worth it to me. I'm happy waiting for my next H Moser or Parimigiani Fleurier. I get to enjoy both a higher horology piece and a premium experience. As a former owner, I enjoyed my Rolex but don't miss it at all. Again, happy to reinvest my time if the situation ever becomes simpler and less of a relative hassle.
I agree withthe above poster. My friend with no purchase history ordered a gmt batman on a bit of a whim 4-5 years ago and unexpectedly got the call two weeks ago. He never followed up. He never bought anything else there. Nothing wrong with that and as the above poster says, if you don’t get it, nothing will have changed
Im gonna be brutal honest here. There was some passive aggressive back and forth about gold being gaudy and saying which watch looks "best." Not really needed and not sure if there is any past history between you guys? Then the cringy lingo with "campy" that nobody understands. Lastly this zoomer conversation which is like a rapid fire Q&A is just hard to enjoy. Wish the best for you two tho, you seem to have alot of passion that just needs to be dialed back. Best of luck!
hi from n.y.c. mad max, it is NEVER a good time to buy a rolex. it does not matter if you have hard earned money to spend, rolex much like ferrari are scumbag companies that decide who is worthy of their products!!! give me cartier, omega, panerai, and tudor. if someone gifred me a rolex i would smash it with a hammer.
MANY THANKS FOR HAVING Hamza. You both are great people
Nizar
Thanks dude 😊
I absolutely love two tone. Yes, there is this view that they are an old man watch. A watch of the 80s. But I am a 50 year old man. A child of the 80s and it fits. I worked hard to buy the watches I love and I am not in a career where a gold watch would fit. It would get too damaged. To me a two tone represents the strength of steel. The hard work and it’s tool watch origin and the gold represents success. That’s what I love about watches though. There are watches for everyone and they represent and mean so many different things to so many different people. It starts conversation and forms the basis for a story….
I don't want to spoil your party, but Hillary didn't wear an Explorer while climbing Mount Everest, but a Smiths watch. He was indeed in possession of an Explorer but had left it behind at base camp.
There’s not enough evidence for it some evidence shows it was in his bagpack/pocket some shows he indeed left it behind but it was definitely not on his wrist that much is for sure
In high altitude climbing, indeed any climbing but especially high altitude, weight is critical. There is no way Hillary decided to summit with two metal watches on that’s just beyond ridiculous. The Rolex sponsorship was worth some money so Hillary downplayed this fact that he left it at camp. Anyway who really cares. Hillary got lucky anyway that the Swiss team the year before lucked out with some bad weather, getting only 240m from the summit.
@@thegorneven still its all a speculation so it doesnt matter rolex isnt wrong in saying it was on everest as well
Most watch heritage is manipulated and shady to some degree so unless we can prove something its pointless the hardcore evidence just isnt there
That's not really his point. Max is talking about what he sees as the essential character of the Explorer and connoting the Everest moment. He of all people is aware of the doubt around whether Hillary was actually wearing, or carrying, ( which I doubt, I mean what's the point of that? ), the watch to the top of the world.
On a side note - If, and I mean if, he actually carried that watch all the way up in his back pack or whatever just to truthfully and faithfully say to Rolex that it was up there at that moment, then I would believe that he was the one to first reach the top rather than Tenzing. If he left it at camp and simply lied about it being at the top then he gives me reason to doubt being there before Tenzing. We'll never know.
That would have been one hell of an accomplishment to have an Explorer with him considering it didn’t even exist yet. If you are going to correct others, might want to get your own facts right
Why so short!? These are interesting conversations you have, would love to see more
The grey and gold on the Sub is a nice combination. - The two tone Santos works really well, one of the best two tone watches out there. The 70s were not very rounded, the watch represents this aesthetic
Agreed!!
@@WatchCrunchOfficialBlack dialled 34mm Oyster Perpetual is the only Rolex I would get
Great colab, Hamza does an excellent job and research in this industry. Congrats
thank you for releasing these Anachronist episodes! Fully understand it takes ages to edit a video but if there turn into a long form audio podcast with You (Max) and the guest that would be so so so much fun! 😎
Yes Camp is spot on. As the 40's - 60's aged guys now, all had dads who rocked two tone expandable band watches. That has carried over to this gen. Couple that with the skater Nixon-wearing all gilt gold quartz watches and the u give these GenX and Y guys money, u get whats going on now with Camp. Thx Max👍🏼
Been enjoying Hamza’s content and visiting his site a lot recently. As someone who fetishizes two tone five digit Datejusts, I’m happy to see that Hamza turns to be my kinda guys. Call em campy, gaudy or even gnarly, cant deny that we’re having fun with these two tone watches!
Is Anachronist available in any podcast platform? Would love to listen to the longer versions.
I'm just curious, are these 'podcasts' really this short? Or is there a longer complete version somewhere else? Seems like a waste and an unfinished conversation that I want to hear / see a lot more of. Clarification appreciated 😊
AHH the man behind that smooth voice. Great to see Hamza here. really fun and interesting episode guys
Cheers 🍻
The new guinness gmt master 2 is my favorite gmt master 2. That'd be my TT watch of choice
Ooohhhh, are people trying to make the guinness name stick? I like it.
I purchased an Explorer 124270 in mid-August; at a local AD; with no previous purchase history and waited a little over three weeks since my initial meeting with the sales associate. 🤷♂️
$0.02
I also went mid August for an Explorer 1 with very little history but It was 2022 and I don't have my watch yet. Fuck me I guess.
@@MrFloRolf technically, that was my second attempt, same watch, same AD, different SA. I tried in 2022, but in hindsight, I wasn't that serious; I already had my eye on a Speedmaster elsewhere and that trip was more of, "let's see what happens." Incidentally, my coworker, who was with me at the time, managed to get a 126200 Datejust about three weeks after that trip.
This time around, I registered interest on this AD's website and was invited, by email, to come in to view exhibition models. Unlike last time, I stayed on point, made it clear I wanted an 124270. I was shown the two tone, to handle and see on wrist, but this SA actually owned and was wearing a 124270, took his off his wrist and let me handle it. I really appreciated that.
What followed was part interview and part watch geeks geeking out over watches. I haven't asked him yet and I don't know if he will disclose, but I think the question and answer that won him over was when he asked me what specifically do I like about the Explorer. I told him it was, "understated and versatile...I want a Rolex, but I don't necessarily want a non-watch person to recognize that I'm wearing a Rolex."
Happy hunting.
Max looking like a Yakuza boss in miami with the pink pineapple shirt and the gold watch! Love to see it. This is such an interested topic for me. I've never been a fan of silver watches, alwys gold or two tone, not to be gaudy but my skin tone and im just not a fan of silver tones.
The word Camp comes from the Netherlands where we have a gipsy like people living in mobile homes and often wearing a lot of gold.
Good to see Hamza on! Good job guys 👏🏻
Cheers!
The two tone explorer is a beauty!
Okay, can someone explain to me what happened in the intro. Did someone drop a watch?
Great conversation and video. I'm not sure I'll ever get into "campy" watches. I'm more of a sports style watch guy. 216570 Polar and No-Date Ceramic Sub are my mainstays.
Staples 👍
My very first luxury watch was the Rolex Datejust two tone on a jubilee bracelet. Purchased 30 years ago for $2800 canadian dollars
Haha! This was my first also! Purchased this year at MSRP ($12,700 US)
@@harrychefitz9470 ouch!
Good times 😅
I agree, i want the mid sized two tone Santos!! I was a little torn, but willprobably go with the two tone. Currently waiting for my GMT CHNR, which will be my first two tone. After a couple of watches, i feel like I’m ready now😄
It is time 😎
I love Watch Charts! I use it all the time to compare prices
5:55 I have exact same quartz Constellation inherited by my grandpa, complete with its red box and papers. Not my go to daily wear watch, but it has really deep meaning to me.
That's an amazing heirloom!
Two tone watches? No thank you. Last week a big Rolex AD in UK did register my interest in Explorer 36 in steel!
Great conversation. And I love two tone watches ❤️
Thanks @max for this, very informative.
Cheers 🍻
Gentlemen, I actually just tried on the two-tone GMT Master II this past weekend, and as you know, it was freaking amazing... and I hate gold. Even I was like OMG, I have to have this... eventually.
It's beautiful
Setteling on a two tone, makes it at bit easier to get a Rxxxx….
@@wonderwatch2239 Good to know, makes sense.
@@wonderwatch2239time will tell. Definitely for datejusts, but I’m not sure if it applies to GMTs. I’m waiting for a Root Beer 🤞🏻
hi again max, do you know if the panerai base logo has a sandwich dial. i caannot find this info anywhere on their site. thank you.
I dont think i'll ever go two tone. Solid precious metal or full stainless steel. It's either one way or the other for me- no middle ground. "Do or do not, there is no try"😁
My wife gifted me a Constellation Manhattan w champagne dial. I still love it, more for dress occasions
Congrats on the new GMT. I like the two tone and the bezel - but Rolex really executed the GMT hand poorly - not enough difference to make it easy to quickly spot.
Not sure this is the time to buy a Rolex - more and more countries going into recession - patience. More people will get the call and more flippers will be distressed in the next 6 months.
I hope you’re right 🤞🏻 good times. I hoped for the same when covid started, but instead prices reached an old time high😅 i’m going two tone too, waiting for my Root Beer. Got a DJ 36 mint green fluted on Jubilée after 3 months this summer😃
Imo, I think that the Black Bay 36 S&G is FAR more campy than the explorer two-tone, maybe it's the snowflake handset.
Also, I *really* want to buy a Black Bay 36 S&G at some point **chef's kiss**
Great point!
I agree, Tudor S&G are super campy!
Us Watch enthusiasts are some of the biggest over-thinkers ever. The philosophy of gold accents 😂
Fact 😂
I had to wait until my 60’s before I wanted the two tone… its almost a right of passage….. 😊
I'm ahead of the game 😀
5:40 "...form irregardless of function". Irregardless?
What happened at the start? 😂
🤣
Two-tone yellow gold jubilee is subtle lol ok dude
i'll be ready for 2 tone when i turn, God willing, 55 or 60 years old
Yep, all in good time
The future is now, old man! Get that two-tone today!
@@vincent67239 🙄
The time to buy a Rolex is, when i can get an Explorer II 216570 White Dial for 5k€!
Most two tone rolex are selling at retail or below right now. People just doesn't dig the old man look.
We are all gonna be old men soon😎
I want to see an orange dial on the explorer.
LOL 😅
Great video. Although I am not a Rolex fan, I still appreciate the content. I just don't get the hype for Rolex watches - especially the Sub. You pay a lot of money for a hideous green box, a dull case back with no design, a cheaply stamped dial with no applied logo, too much text above 6 o'clock and an uninspiring undecorated movement. For the asking price, it should be much, much better.
You are better off buying a beautiful Longines and spend the rest of the cash on a vacation to Italy.
Why do they all say.. Reminds me of my dad?
😂😂
While I am happy to put some effort to acquire a Rolex again some day, I am not interested in playing AD games. Haven't looked back since selling my Rolex and won't return to the brand until the situation significantly changes - and if not, so be it. The brand isn't interesting enough to pay a premium for
There’s no harm in walking in, having a nice chat, and expressing your interest in the model you want. That’s just the bare minimum. Then you can just pretend in your mind that you didn’t actually do any of that-just forget it ever happened. Get on with the rest of your life. If you get the call, great! If you don’t, well, it’s not like that would change anything. You miss all the shots you don’t take, or something. Waiting on my 4th Rolex from my local boutique
@@vincent67239 Glad you are enjoying the experience and your watches. The relative effort is simply not worth it to me. I'm happy waiting for my next H Moser or Parimigiani Fleurier. I get to enjoy both a higher horology piece and a premium experience. As a former owner, I enjoyed my Rolex but don't miss it at all. Again, happy to reinvest my time if the situation ever becomes simpler and less of a relative hassle.
I agree withthe above poster. My friend with no purchase history ordered a gmt batman on a bit of a whim 4-5 years ago and unexpectedly got the call two weeks ago. He never followed up. He never bought anything else there. Nothing wrong with that and as the above poster says, if you don’t get it, nothing will have changed
Love this
The campiest in your closet may be the shirt:)
Haha, you got me 🤣
Im gonna be brutal honest here. There was some passive aggressive back and forth about gold being gaudy and saying which watch looks "best." Not really needed and not sure if there is any past history between you guys? Then the cringy lingo with "campy" that nobody understands. Lastly this zoomer conversation which is like a rapid fire Q&A is just hard to enjoy. Wish the best for you two tho, you seem to have alot of passion that just needs to be dialed back. Best of luck!
Gonna be brutally honest, never dialing back our passion ✌️😉
first time I heard a two tone watch as a F-ewe watch
What the hell is “Campy?”
Watch the video again... Half speed maybe 😉
Gay😅
Im sorry but the 2 tone explorer is a hard no
Wow go Omega
max and britt also jenni are so far ahead of everyone in the watch world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
In what regard? 😃
in every regard jackass.@@Bisley1
hi from n.y.c. mad max, it is NEVER a good time to buy a rolex. it does not matter if you have hard earned money to spend, rolex much like ferrari are scumbag companies that decide who is worthy of their products!!! give me cartier, omega, panerai, and tudor. if someone gifred me a rolex i would smash it with a hammer.
No you wouldn’t. And being honest you sound like a bit of a goofball. Have a good evening.
brian, you do not know me. yes i would smash a rolex, because i have integrity. you probably dont.@@brianbutler307