Let's Build a Battery!!! I Love This Stuff!!! DIY Lifepo4 Rocks!!!

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  • This video shows the process of taking a top balanced set of cells and turning it into a 14 KWh battery. I also discuss the advantages of DIY compared to ready made storage systems such as the Tesla Powerwall. I talk about the philosophy of self sufficiency while assembling one of the pieces of the puzzle to gaining our personal energy independence. Let's keep the conversation going. Why are you doing this?
    *******It has correctly been brought to my attention and confirmed in the Seplos manual that I should have been connecting the battery negative prior to plugging the bms wires into the bms. It doesn't seem to have caused a problem in the batteries I've built to date but I will definitely make the change to my process and so should you.******

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  • @offgridwanabe
    @offgridwanabe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Here is one for you I was always told never plug the bms wires into the plug until the main negative is connected.

    • @adon8672
      @adon8672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What do you mean by bms wires sir? The balance wires? Do you know why it is recommended to connect the battery negative first? Any consequence if done the other way around? I sincerely want to learn more.

    • @RayBuildsCoolStuff
      @RayBuildsCoolStuff  2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      You Are Right! I just rechecked the connection instructions. 1)battery negative, 2)BMS wires, 3)battery positive. Thank you. I will make sure that is what I do on the next 12 batteries.

    • @offgridwanabe
      @offgridwanabe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@adon8672 I can only guess it needs a path to release any static energy , yes balance wires.

    • @RayBuildsCoolStuff
      @RayBuildsCoolStuff  2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That may explain why I haven't had a problem. I'm not in a high static time of year. It would seem that some conditions would be worse than others if that is the reason for the protocol but in any case it is an easy protocol to follow.

    • @john_in_phoenix
      @john_in_phoenix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Many BMS manuals are totally silent or don't have up to date manuals (looking at you Daly). A well designed BMS should not be harmed by this, but some are poorly designed and poorly documented (looking at you Daly).

  • @craiglan5427
    @craiglan5427 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You're like the Bob Ross of battery building. Enjoy the enthusiasm, slow pace of your build and your good explanations. Kudos.

  • @DMIINC2013
    @DMIINC2013 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Ray: "I want control over all of the things in my life that are critically important for our survival" 27:46 Me to buddy.

  • @brettschacher8644
    @brettschacher8644 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I'm impressed with your bus bars with the screw connections for the balance leads. Much better than the last video I watched where the guy was just putting the lugs over the studs. So much cleaner. This is the way I will do my next setups.

  • @lukefarmer5391
    @lukefarmer5391 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You really should build at least one box with a plexiglass top to show off your beautiful creations. I have done this to one of mine and it is so cool to show it off. It’s like art.

  • @bexraphaela
    @bexraphaela ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You’re such a cool person! I really love how easy you explain it and that there’s no annoying background or flashing images, just like watching your dad teach you stuff in the garage in the summer. Great video!

  • @tracyt4327
    @tracyt4327 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mr Roger's Neighborhood meets energy independence! Love it!

    • @garyroberts3729
      @garyroberts3729 ปีที่แล้ว

      +1 on your comment. Super educational, spiritual, and relaxing!

  • @baddlyghost5509
    @baddlyghost5509 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved your attitude and excitement. This slow paced real time format of the video was very relaxing and informative. I was working on one monitor and had the video on the second and 1 hour passed like nothing, and i also learned many things about diy Lifepo4 battery banks. Thank you.

  • @jackpalmer5067
    @jackpalmer5067 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I appreciate the information and how thorough you are about presenting it. Thank you very much.

  • @joepace33
    @joepace33 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Like a kid in a candy store!!
    Your enthusiasm is contagious...... Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

  • @appalachianamerican7171
    @appalachianamerican7171 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really enjoy your videos, I appreciate all the knowledge and a little wisdom to boot man. Wasn't a fan of vinyl siding, but upon watching that video I have found some new respect for it. Thanks Ray

  • @SoutheastOhioSolarHaven
    @SoutheastOhioSolarHaven 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have No Idea why, But I feel we could hang out for hours together. And Talk about nerdy stuff. This Solar and battery stuff has always been a big interest to me. Great Job on the battery build. Wish I had to motivation and energy you have .

  • @paulpvhl1930
    @paulpvhl1930 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I can watch at double speed and everything is very understandable, so a one hour video is valuable to me as someone more experienced, yet probably perfect for newbies to the sport. I find your experienced commentary very valuable also, and your relaxed presentation, even x2, is a welcome rest in my research. Glad to have found your channel Ray. Much appreciated.

    • @alfredotorres3553
      @alfredotorres3553 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It gives me time to take notes before I forget the good information.

  • @restfulplace3273
    @restfulplace3273 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for posting. Nice delivery and easy listening

  • @iamalthentic263
    @iamalthentic263 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Ray, I hung in there all the way. Good job, I'm new to learning so I have a lot of videos to watch. I think between you and Will I will be ready to build my own.

  • @StansE250
    @StansE250 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those are some BEAUTIFUL boxes ! 🏆

  • @Kyee71
    @Kyee71 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I admire your infectious enthusiastic energy.

  • @barakhalla5338
    @barakhalla5338 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for this wonderful video. Your father is so right, lets build everything we can!

  • @andys5203
    @andys5203 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Video. Love your excitement.

  • @MatthewKiernan_cool_stuff78
    @MatthewKiernan_cool_stuff78 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Hey Ray, I’m a big fan. I’ve got 4 Weize 100ah lifepo4’s and they work great. Then I saw your video on cells from china. I went ahead and purchased 4 lf280k cells from Ellie @ Docan back on September 7. I just got them today and they look great. I’m top balancing them as we speak. Thank you for finding a reputable company to deal with.

    • @restfulplace3273
      @restfulplace3273 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m in Au. Do you know if they supply to Australia?

  • @MasterCommandCEO
    @MasterCommandCEO ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video it helped me clear up a lot of confusion I was having about BMS's and charging

  • @quartamile
    @quartamile 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great tutorial. Thank you!!

  • @michaelcoghlan9124
    @michaelcoghlan9124 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Ray, very helpful. I am also working my way towards a 48 v sysistem, stand alone from a 12v here in the s/w of Ireland, but it is much more expensive here unfortunately. All these videos are so very helpful. An I am very grateful to you all for your time an effort. Stay well an Good luck. M

  • @nabilriahi4019
    @nabilriahi4019 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you very much from Spain

  • @jhunnesilva4945
    @jhunnesilva4945 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Mr. Ray, I enjoy watching your video and most of all I learned something interesting, keep up the good job & god bless...

  • @just_russ4633
    @just_russ4633 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love your enthusiasm. Cheers.

  • @putteslaintxtbks5166
    @putteslaintxtbks5166 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yesterday I watched a vid on You Tube on a channel called Vertasium and titled, The Big Misconception About Electricity, and it made me wonder if the way the batteries are configured could be a bit more important than just a personal or eazier configuration. I ' thinking that each battery turned maybe best, but that's only a guess and it might not even matter, but there a is a field around them something like with a magnets. Your camera operater does a great job, almost would think your alone, but then camera ange changes. Well done. Thanks for the time and work to share with us.

  • @PaulShadwell
    @PaulShadwell ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have the same mindset. I'm a member of our local Repair Cafe here in Switzerland. I used to rebuild old cars in the UK years ago as a hobby. Now I'm getting into solar and battery storage DIY. I've been working with 18650 cells but these LiFePo4 cells look a lot easier to work with.
    The only thing I'm really jealous of though is your hair ;-) Thanks for the great videos, I only discovered your channel today.

    • @gravelydon7072
      @gravelydon7072 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Funny how so many of us that worked on cars in the 70s are now the one that are DIY solar tinkerers.

  • @marknichols7861
    @marknichols7861 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This video is relaxing and informative- reminds me what it would be like if Bob Ross built batteries.

  • @michaelivory7606
    @michaelivory7606 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Woohoo! Congrats on No.4 !

  • @inbagovender6287
    @inbagovender6287 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, I am from South Africa , super excited to have stumbled upon your channel, thank you , much appreciated.

  • @timjerby5080
    @timjerby5080 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just found your channel, very cool the batteries you are building, really enjoy watching your videos!!

  • @barndweller4573
    @barndweller4573 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just purchased a couple Lithium Iron batteries to replace my Lead Acid I have in my pole barn that I play with (Amateur Radio) you are giving me ideas! I would have to figure out a way to get it up in the air my knees hurt just watching you on yours for so long haha.
    You have some great woodworking skills! Those boxes are a thing of beauty!
    Thank you for sharing with me.

  • @mikeriley8546
    @mikeriley8546 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you make great videos!! im new at this and you make it easy to understand . thanks

  • @vormbaumw
    @vormbaumw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for the great video. I live in South Africa and our grid is becoming very unreliable. This gives me the confidence to start planning my own power bank. I love the wooden mobile idea. When I eventually get around to building my expedition truck I can merely transfer the system from my home to it and be completely independent.

    • @RayBuildsCoolStuff
      @RayBuildsCoolStuff  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That sounds like a great idea but keep in mind that the weight of a 16s 280AH battery with its enclosure and other parts will weigh around 100Kg or 220 lbs or a bit more. This old man will hydraulic help to lift up and down. There are a number of inexpensive ways to do that. I'm blessed to have a tractor here on the farm. I'll use the forks to move from here to there and then roll it around once it is on solid ground.

  • @john_in_phoenix
    @john_in_phoenix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You can not only build it cheaper but better using DIY. You understand it, and can spot problems and repair them. If you need it, waiting on customer support and shipping is not good. Keeping some spare parts, I hear you say that as I type this.

  • @bsalightning69
    @bsalightning69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really like your videos, good job!

  • @bjornschrijnemeeckers9521
    @bjornschrijnemeeckers9521 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hello, Nice channel and explaining things.
    I have built a look a like battery with the same Seplos bms 6 months ago. Nice to see that more people do it. I have those connected to Victron and it works fine. I like those bms a lot.

    • @precisiont5188
      @precisiont5188 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which BMS is it? I need a good one.

  • @charlesmathias2197
    @charlesmathias2197 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    very enjoyable i like the story of your power grid.I am in United Kingdom and have a solar array and homebuilt battery from laptop batteries.I am changing to LFP cells 33kw/H Keep it going i like your perfection in the build

  • @RandomescuAleatoriu
    @RandomescuAleatoriu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i love your videos u remember me of Bob Ross. I love your passion and admire you apply the teachings of your father. in this days we take all ready mades 4 granted at the cost of nature and the wellfare of our children, without understanding our habitat, working against it, trying to get the last dropp out of it without lifting a finger. ty.

  • @johnnyraccoon1219
    @johnnyraccoon1219 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi mate! Your video is awesome!
    Literally this night I was reading the first time about balancing the batteries with schemes and have found your video!
    Thank YOU man for making such a great content!
    I'm from Ukraine and trying to learn how exactly this all works because of blackouts. God bless you man!

  • @bobaloo2012
    @bobaloo2012 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I liked your comment about your parents. I'm a lot like you, my parents were adults during the Depression. I grew up on stories of hunger and hardship, most people in the Western world can't imagine what it was like and I'm afraid most now have the idea that peace and prosperity are the natural course of the world and I'm afraid they're about to get a big dose of reality, That explains why I have a 20KW solar system to run my home, 3 greenhouses, orchards, big gardens, etc. Like you I like to understand and have some control over the essentials in my life.

    • @RayBuildsCoolStuff
      @RayBuildsCoolStuff  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely this. I don't like to dwell on the possibilities because we can solve problems and avoid disaster but will we? Will we blindly fall into another black hole of disaster or will we reason our way out with steely resolve. WW1 or the cuban missile crisis? We have dodged many bullets but we have really botched a few too. If the lights go out things may become the worst the world has ever known. Time will tell and all I can do is be reasonably prepared and enjoy every day.

  • @luc_libv_verhaegen
    @luc_libv_verhaegen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You can buy crimps for the BMS side as well. This way you do not need to extend existing wires to reach all the way across and create another likely point of failure, and then you are even more easily able to fix things in future. Having the pre-crimped shorter wires around for future is also never a loss.

  • @robertnorrell9073
    @robertnorrell9073 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    your builds all look very professional, my friend. Im watching what you do ,and will try to do what you do, at some point. I have built 220 vdc lead acid battery back up for several remote transfer stations that went to Florida Power and Light, but this is a different ball game, IMO. TY for sharing . :-)

  • @revolverguy
    @revolverguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Something about watching this battery come together calms me down and helps my head to stop spinning. The only thing better would be to be the one assembling it.

  • @rickbattle5706
    @rickbattle5706 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great work. Love the 1/0 jumper. :-)

    • @RayBuildsCoolStuff
      @RayBuildsCoolStuff  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      With the Eve cells I can modify a copper bus bar for the jumper. That will be a little easier.

  • @troytaylor1913
    @troytaylor1913 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was a computer automation technician at the world's largest freezer plant. I estimate that the bagging machines were rebuilt about 4 times per year. When going 24-7 brand new machines are worn out in about 3 months all the nylon bushing is gone. It wasn't always a glamorous job swapping out buffer chips on I/O boards I was in food debris in fda grease rebuilding machines and wrenching on them all the time. Besides wrenching learning to weld helps too. You don't want someone welding on something connected to the computer. If you have smelled the smoke. FIX EVERYTHING! It's fun. LOL

    • @troytaylor1913
      @troytaylor1913 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "Boss, it worked well until I worked on it." I have enough Bluetooth devices I don't want BMS with Bluetooth. I think 4 cells will keep me powered while camping.

  • @todamnbad
    @todamnbad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great videos, hopefully someday i can do a similar project

  • @alwoolhouse6255
    @alwoolhouse6255 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tremendous Ray. I am right now taking a break from wiring my JK BMS but later this evening I will be attaching the 16S LiFePo4 cells on my system. Greetings from Spain 🇪🇸

  • @brettschacher8644
    @brettschacher8644 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excelent mention on losening those bus bars as if there is any pressure from expansion in those cells, it would be compounded in them which could for sure cause issues with the integrity of them.

  • @jeremyallard5449
    @jeremyallard5449 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Ray again a fabulous video, sorry you had problems with cell one (first cell positive) BMS Lead, try and get a set of all the connectors as soldered into the BMS etc and make a test jig to assist the testing, especially as you have a small production line going. Stay safe

  • @georgechamberlain1780
    @georgechamberlain1780 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    " I need control into my life " I love it ! I try to build my autonomous home in huge land and I try hard with one salary to buy all that where I called an "Expensive hobby", although my dream getting true step by step , panel by panel , battery by battery ( even If I am still using 200Ah truck batteries Acid. ( Dont lauph) :) . Thank you, I learned so many from your videos. I am still dreaming ...

  • @torstenhansen4308
    @torstenhansen4308 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The TH-cam algorithm sent me to this video and I loved it, watched every minute and admired a beautiful build. Thank you for taking the time to share your learning curve with us. On a side note, how in the world do you manage to sit on the floor like that for that length of time? My knees would be revolting long before I got the last connection made 👍

    • @RayBuildsCoolStuff
      @RayBuildsCoolStuff  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you so much for the kind words. I hope you will watch the others. The early videos about building the boxes and why I’m doing this are perhaps best watched at 1.25 or 1.5 speed. I try to be careful not to misspeak because I do these in one take with no editing. That leads me to talk a bit slow and careful and it was worse early on.
      I have been sitting on my ankles to work for many decades. When I was approaching 50 I was feeling very old and was on 8 medications. I lost 60 Lbs by counting calories which was the hardest thing I’ve ever done but I feel like it gave me back 20 years. If I had kept gaining instead I would be 300 Lbs now. My knees and ankles thank me by letting me abuse them in other ways. lol Now I’m 60 and I just keep after it.

  • @brettschacher8644
    @brettschacher8644 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Had another idea to clean up all those small leads for the BMS, use some convolute tubing or what ever to keep all the spaghettie organized and away from the bars and not.

  • @randywolf8487
    @randywolf8487 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I first started looking at solar I wanted to make a remote charger for tractor batteries. After watching a few videos by Ray I now realize the potential of making a solar energy station to improve my independence and continue to enjoy the luxuries of the 21wt century without dependence on someone I do not know. Therefore, my plans are now greatly expanded and I have several videos to view so I will be able to understand how much my plans will expand.

    • @gravelydon7072
      @gravelydon7072 ปีที่แล้ว

      I started in as a precaution for a Hurricane that was coming. 2 Deep Cycle 12V batteries and a 2000 Watt modified square wave inverter. Charging them off of the truck alternator as needed. Then solar panels. Then 24V Pure Sine wave inverter, then bigger ones. Then a bigger one. Then now with two 6000Watt inverters ( one as backup ) and the rest of the items. Slowly switching from Lead/Acid to LIPO and LiFePo4 batteries. Was all set for power failures from Ian but didn't have more than flickers here and 10" of rain.

  • @precisiont5188
    @precisiont5188 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You have good vibes.

  • @precisiont5188
    @precisiont5188 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like your reasoning.

  • @brettschacher8644
    @brettschacher8644 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hear you about trusting the grid companies. I'm trying to go fully off gird as well, because I was getting monthly bills and paying over the billing I used. The overdue balance continued to go up till I had no way to pay it off near a $1000s. I was off gird for several years before and had to go back on in a location I couldn't put up wind turbines, and the turbines all eventually went bad with no replacement parts available to repair them anymore.

  • @nicklaslundgren
    @nicklaslundgren 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Subscribing. I´m not in to solar yet, but your mindset is enough for following. You´ve got a very pleasant tone in your videos, as well as a lot of interesting info.

  • @brettschacher8644
    @brettschacher8644 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    To save your fingers, you should take a piece of belting or some insulation material with cords in it, make some little lug type pieces that will fit over those studs and rivet or bolt them to that belting so you have a nice handle to lift the cells with. It would be so much easier.

  • @gleno2008
    @gleno2008 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your a great person, and great to watch , awesomeness

  • @pilgrimvalle
    @pilgrimvalle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like the wood battery boxes you made. I have 3 LiFePO4 batteries assembled and cycling. the 4th set of cells is almost here (waiting on 4 more cells to arrive via FedEx) took 79 to 82 days for the rest of this 32 cell EVE LF280K cells with double busbars to arrive via the slow boat ride etc from China via Alibaba(grade A as far as I can tell in perfect condition). I got solid copper tin-plated. but your video makes me want to test the bus bar ohms. tons of similar things I have encountered. mine are all 24volt builds 2P8S (two of those) and one 4P8S using the Lishen 272AH cells. the new build will be a 32 cell build 4P8S 24volt. keep up the great video documentation! cheers from South Dakota 😎

  • @alexb.6800
    @alexb.6800 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Feels like another great video could be made related to that tanks behind the table.

    • @RayBuildsCoolStuff
      @RayBuildsCoolStuff  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Trudat but I’m not sure it would be very helpful to many people.

  • @mm-wh4jx
    @mm-wh4jx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you

  • @MistaTerps
    @MistaTerps 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would suggest the yellow tinted glasses for electrical work, it protects against arc eye.

  • @kgradio
    @kgradio ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I stayed with you, but must admit there was a little alcohol involved; It was late on a Saturday night. All kidding aside, this was awesome, you rock..

  • @heineolesen
    @heineolesen ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You Go Ray :) Hi From Danmark

  • @benedictcalantoc7115
    @benedictcalantoc7115 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the videos. Thanks for sharing knowledge. If you don’t mind do you have the link for your build materials. I would like to build the same battery pack. Thanks again.

  • @williammaldonado6132
    @williammaldonado6132 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome ⚡️⚡️⚡️

  • @brettschacher8644
    @brettschacher8644 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If you do this enough times, it might be adventageous to get some JST type terminal pieces and a little proto boad and solder the pins and make it so you can plug in some proper leads to connect the meter so you have all hands available.

  • @StansE250
    @StansE250 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The “Mr. Rogers” of DIY Batteries …. 😊

  • @brettschacher8644
    @brettschacher8644 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another comment about those end outputs, make those from either a larger square that gives you a place to install a seperate mout stud for the cables.

  • @offgridwanabe
    @offgridwanabe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In Ontario they already charge for every kwh the meter measures and then I can bank the rest for winter or another time but it has to be used within a year or they take it for free.

  • @JonnyNevernow
    @JonnyNevernow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    CRIKEY!! Ive been in the repair/fix/build business all my life but still amazed at the quality of your mind! Oh ya your build Also! Amazing quality! Looks way over my head though. Ill watch a couple more of your vids but thus far I might be in to a cpl of Ampere Time 24V 200Ah 5.12kWh Deep Cycle LiFePO4 Battery But the price will likely break the bank! Ill give you that much to build me one, or two?

  • @jhojaD
    @jhojaD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video, I want to consult you based on your experience what you think about seplos BMS, and how is the issue of cell balancing with this BMS going. I currently have the jk bms with an active balancer that already integrates the bms 2A, but it does not have communication for investors, an advantage that if it has seplos.

  • @tobymaples7646
    @tobymaples7646 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Ray, thanks for all the awesome videos. I am new to solar so I don't know if I trust myself to build a battery at the moment. Have you come across any of your reputable suppliers that sell a nice premade unit with the BMS and all the goodies already attached in one unit? thank you

    • @RayBuildsCoolStuff
      @RayBuildsCoolStuff  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have not found a factory built unit that made me want to own one yet. Some use the same BMS I use but I don't like that they can't be serviced to replace cells and none have class T fuses inside. They tend to be limited to 5 KWh to keep the weight down and they aren't set up to parallel them well. Most have jumpers that make each one progressively further from the main connection. They are getting better but not what I would want to own yet.

  • @ryqarst4690
    @ryqarst4690 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In Wisconsin the co-ops don't have to offer net metering but the public utilities do not.
    And regardless there is a fee you pay just to have the service hooked up whether you use anything or not. In your example not only would you need to produce way more during the day to offset the nighttime rate back, but you'd need to generate $25-30 worth extra to cover your service fee.

  • @Moonlight-zt5uf
    @Moonlight-zt5uf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Ray. Great video as always. I’m still in the learning process but have learned a lot thanks to you and others willing to share. Many thanks. I have a question regarding compression. When I first came into all of this and heard about cell compression I was a little puzzled. At first I thought that the cells required compression because the cells would bloat and eventually ruin themselves. Later I came to understand that it was to immobilize the cells to stabilize the battery connections and reduce terminal strain. This made better sense. Still unsure about the bloating part though. When I build my battery I would like to employ an open cell design that would mitigate terminal strain. But concerned that compression might still be required for the cells. Is this a bad idea? I don’t mind building a box. I like building things anyway. Just for expediency’s sake I wanted to move the project along and replace the lead acids. Thanks. Here’s a tip that might be helpful. On crimp terminals I strip back twice the amount of insulation and then fold back almost halfway the wire. As long as this fits the terminal it seems to make a better connection mechanically. I fold back almost halfway because the wire is thicker towards the ring and makes it more difficult to be pulled out. In my case I prefer a soldered connection. But that’s just me. Keep with the slow steady pace on the videos Ray. This gives more time for people to mull over a point before you move on. The video can always be sped up to chipmunk speed for those in a hurry. I like the time to really study and think about something and your videos are excellent for this. When I get around to doing my build I’ll let you know how it went and what I learned from my particular setup. Best of luck from Arizona! 🌵

    • @RayBuildsCoolStuff
      @RayBuildsCoolStuff  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In some of my videos I focus on connections and even cut them apart.
      The manufacturers recommend compression but we are at a disadvantage to do it properly as diyers. My approach is to stay at the low end of the stated values and give the cells a gentle hug like a loving mom. Enough to let them know I’m thinking about them but not squeeze the snot out of them. I feel that as they slightly move with their discharge cycles, this will keep them from slowly ratcheting to a different size and shape.
      I hear y’all got some rain. Can you send us some?

  • @JohnUsp
    @JohnUsp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In these PSUs you don't need thick cables and I recommend you to use an ideal diode to protect them.

  • @dennislynton7706
    @dennislynton7706 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watched entire show, how great. I am about to build my first battery 180Ah with Overkill BMS. Hope it will last over 10 years! You Rock.

    • @RayBuildsCoolStuff
      @RayBuildsCoolStuff  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hope it works out great for you. Try to watch the others in the series to get the best connections.

  • @earthenergyhex
    @earthenergyhex 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    new sub for ya Ray!!

  • @rich3317
    @rich3317 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really in joy your videos. Sometimes a little long. Lol but the fact you take time and tell us everything along the way is great. I buy a lot of server rack battery for Ukraine. Last order was 34 of the 5.12kwh. But I’m looking to build a diy for my new home. I see a lot of people using the seplos bms. There used in Al my batteries I buy now. But I have read about a few people that had problems with them. I have used JBD bms. And i think there one of the best. I see they offer a bms for these battery packs. Just like what I have now. And way cheaper. I ordered 2 of the JBD 200amp bms with everything. Rs485 can even offers heated plug. Power plug in for turning battery on. Everything my server battery has.
    $145 each. Have you used JBD bms?

  • @512.constitutionalist8
    @512.constitutionalist8 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just curious what part of Texas you are in and what utility CoOp... I'm in Texas as well, with a CoOp. Just wondering if I'm going to have a battle when I add solar this year.

  • @GaryJenkinsCzech
    @GaryJenkinsCzech ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Ray, very very informative.
    You mentioned a cost comparison between your solution and a tesla powerwall but you got distracted and never finished off your point. If you get the chance to discuss DIY v Powerwall I'd really appreciate it.

    • @RayBuildsCoolStuff
      @RayBuildsCoolStuff  ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe in this video that I got around to saying that my friend installed for Tesla Powerwalls add an installed cost of $50,000. The batteries that I’m building cost $2800 for materials parts and cells including the cost of someone spraying lacquer on them. That does not count my time. It also does not include the cost of installation and integration with the rest of the system. The $50,000 that he paid included immigration with his solar panels.

  • @risky-impact-reformopera-f6140
    @risky-impact-reformopera-f6140 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Ray, I love your videos. Have you thought about using an Active Equalizer Balancer in your Battery?

    • @RayBuildsCoolStuff
      @RayBuildsCoolStuff  ปีที่แล้ว

      The Seplos BMS does a great job of keeping in spite of the claims from Andy. He uses an odd use case to claim the need for active balancing but my batteries are always in balance because though the balancing is only at 150 ma, it continues until balanced.

  • @damageben8325
    @damageben8325 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Ray, do you have the solar charge settings somewhere? because of your videos im also building a 48v off-grid solar battery bank. but the charging settings for float and stuff are a bid weird, i understand a lot what it does but just like to know your settings. thanks and keep the videos comming

  • @brettschacher8644
    @brettschacher8644 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have an idea you might want to try for those final output connections. Get some coupling nuts that fit the studs and put them on those, then install a short piece of stud in those, that way once you make a connection on the outs, you won't have to remove the nuts to put any other connections there.

  • @Bluntask
    @Bluntask ปีที่แล้ว

    Heya! I’ve been looking for some months now learning what I can about how to remain off grid. Sad to say , I’ve been running off a small generator and it’s noisy and expensive. I’ve looked at getting rack mounts which have low temp sensors, screens , etc built in, but for what I need, I won’t be able to afford as much as I can achieve as I can dyi. I know you don’t want to promote certain products, but you’ve run the gauntlet of various products and settled on what you use for these 48v systems/ batteries. We can all appreciate this! I’m hoping you could point me to a supply list I may have missed, or create one so I can order all the necc parts to complete a build. I do live in the northeast and wondered if you know of heaters that can be used and hooked up to work in colder climates. I also plan on helping a friend who’s planning on buying property upstate who desires to be off grid. Ty, and keep up the good work !

  • @blainecelestaine4543
    @blainecelestaine4543 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff.. What bms and parts did you use. Is there a link to your battery supplier?

  • @rich3317
    @rich3317 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ray. Do you have a build list of parts you used? Fuse? I was thinking of using a 250 dc Breaker.

  • @restfulplace3273
    @restfulplace3273 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Watching the section at 7” where lifting alternate batteries up to swap from parallel to series - requires finger strength to avoid dropping.
    The newer larger capacity 300+A.hr cells are ~ 6kg (12 pounds).
    I’m thinking a handle that bolts on the studs will make it much safer to lift.
    I’m seeing much lower prices for cells and bms now.

  • @SCT149
    @SCT149 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video and really helpful. What connectors do you use for plugging in the battery and what gauge cable?

    • @RayBuildsCoolStuff
      @RayBuildsCoolStuff  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The cables are 1/0 and they are 175amp Anderson connectors.

    • @SCT149
      @SCT149 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RayBuildsCoolStuff Fantastic, thank you :)

  • @RJ-cc1fz
    @RJ-cc1fz ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Ray. Thanks for all your videos. I have learned a lot from them.. from reading a lot on the DIY solar forum. I’m under the assumption that if the cells are compressed by any amount then flexible busbars should be used so the terminal do not have unnecessary pressure on them due to the cells natural expansion contraction. Also that the busbar If not flexible could loosen and constantly need to be retightened.
    Also under the assumption that if not using flexible busbars that the cells should not be compressed at all but instead space left between the cells so one cell doesn’t push on another when expanding. Then the terminals will not get tension on them and the busbars will not need to be retightened. What’s your thoughts on this?

    • @RayBuildsCoolStuff
      @RayBuildsCoolStuff  ปีที่แล้ว

      I think that people often develop theories about how things work and state them as fact without supporting evidence. In this case there is evidence to the contrary. EVs and many prebuilt batteries come with rigid busbars and the terminals are welded and the cells are restrained. Others have busbars with a small raised ridge that can't offer a lot of flexibility.
      I restrain my cells to minimize the movement between the cells.
      I have seen no evidence and could find no examples or even anecdotes to support the correlation between restraining cells and using rigid busbars and then experiencing failure of the cell terminals.
      These things take on a life of their own. That's my thought on the matter.
      Cheers

  • @andremanicke8534
    @andremanicke8534 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice and clean builds and a very decent amount of energy (I have one 14 kWh battery).
    Only 2 remarks: Please don't talk about "Putting 80 amps of energy in" (cause that's current) and you shouldn't touch your busbars or anything else with your hands/fingers - it will result in bad contact if they are not perfectly clean.

  • @kdlange6052
    @kdlange6052 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Curious as to why you're using a stubby screwdriver to tighten bms wires? Also you can get screwdrivers with screw holders so you don't drop them into your enclosure. If you do they also make flexible claws to grasp and retrieve those that may find their way down the sides

    • @RayBuildsCoolStuff
      @RayBuildsCoolStuff  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Stubby screwdriver feels good in my hand. It's magnetic but the stainless screws barely are attracted. I used to have a screwdriver with little jaws but I didn't like using it.

  • @Andeboy
    @Andeboy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So nice to see you use Class T fuse. All other builds I've seen has been with Mega or ANL... You should talk about that some day, or maybe I've missed the video where you do.👍

    • @RayBuildsCoolStuff
      @RayBuildsCoolStuff  ปีที่แล้ว

      I talk about it when responding to questions about rack battery packs. It is one of many choices they make to save a few bucks.

    • @Andeboy
      @Andeboy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RayBuildsCoolStuff You mean that rack battery packs (like eg4) use fuses with insufficient interrupt current rating? I don't think I've seen a spec sheet where the fuse is even mentioned.

    • @RayBuildsCoolStuff
      @RayBuildsCoolStuff  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Andeboy most use ANL

    • @fancentral4662
      @fancentral4662 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Looking forward to seeing the fuses and safety topics in general.

  • @alfredotorres3553
    @alfredotorres3553 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Any reason to not use solid grumetes to atach the bms wires to the buss bar.

  • @mysticwolf2842
    @mysticwolf2842 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I added this to my saved videos, as I am planning on building a battery pack for my house, and I am looking at every option I can. Is there a way you can let us know ehere you picked up the cells? That would b3 a big help. Thanks

    • @RayBuildsCoolStuff
      @RayBuildsCoolStuff  ปีที่แล้ว

      I have some videos on that and even a playlist. Please subscribe.

  • @en2oh
    @en2oh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have to ask... just how much capacity are you aiming for in your entire system?

  • @winnersedgemarketing
    @winnersedgemarketing ปีที่แล้ว

    Ray, can you tell me why you choose to use wire between the cells on the left/right instead of another bus bar? Thanks so much for the videos!

    • @RayBuildsCoolStuff
      @RayBuildsCoolStuff  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The spacing on those cells don’t work with a standard busbar.