@@mwqjdpk Intel destroyed itself when they decided to take a break from innovating and replace the engineers in charge of the company for money hungry people
Intel is suffering because the sanctions designed to bolster the US semiconductor industry against China's industry cut off Intel's biggest customer - China.
Biden, Raimondo and Trump: "we're going to destroy Huawei and China's ability to make chips ...." Back in reality: Intel in full blown melt-down despite billions in gifts from taxpayers.
Typical disconnect between government policy objectives and reality. The politicians make grand announcements and claim credit, while projects fail down the road on someone else's watch.
Sounds to me that Intel made grand claims and promises to help push thru this Chip Act as a money grab. Now, those claims and promises have proven false.
Thanks to the sanction, now China is in full confidence for RISC-V architecture. Plus, Chinese companies are no longer picky between China chip (and related tech) and their western counterpart's. They have no choice but to choose China's, creating markets for China chip producers.
8B $ dont even pay the concrete intel is pouring, intel is spending 100B on fabs while having little cash flow. Meteor lake cpu and sierra forest xeon 6 server cpu are the first chips an American company produced on uv based process, done by intel in 2024. Tax payer can build fabs themselves if they wont help those who volunteered
It's national security concern. If Taiwan is invaded there won't be an oversimplification. Subsidizing Intel, TSMC and Samsung (in Texas), Micron Technology and Texas Instruments are all about making sure if there is war the economy and the war machine doesn't all grind to a halt.
China subsidies for its industries are bad. US subsidies for this industries are good. Chinese companies spend subsidies on importing the business. US companies spend subsidies on share buy backs.
the structure of your statements is very sus, if the government left intel alone like they have done since the 70s they would not be discussing this on Bloomberg would they? But keep in mind intel is suppose to spend money during a retraction cycle which causes even more problems for a business losing market share due to management’ under the ceo, AI has destroyed intel’s business model due to the very difference in capabilities between gpu and cpu’s. Intel stop share buybacks when the stock was trading above 30 USD, it lost a 3rd of its market cap when they announced how horrible their earnings were going to be, as their new CPU’s were failing
Huawei and SMIC on the other hand have done very well. Based on current policies it is absolutely inevitable that China will dominate in both chip production/fabs and in the underlying technologies. This is what happens when politicians with no real-world knowledge make decisions in areas in which they are woefully underqualified. Unless the Netherlands say a firm 'no' to the USA, ASML is a dead man walking. Raimondo in particular should be fired, she has been an absolute disaster, she single-handedly has caused more economic problems for the USA than anyone in recent history.
US is a democracy (actually a defacto oligarchy/plutocracy) run by simple minded lawyers (they know civil procedure real well though!) who spend all day pandering for money and votes from anyone who will give it to them as AIPAC money isn't enough. China is an authoritarian government run by engineers and economists (that's what happens when a society celebrates the nerdy kids instead of the football players) who have the ability to plan with authority. There are still protests in China but the government tries to listen. The US's trump card however is to use it's military to blow up other countries it deems a threat to it's hegemony so the US government will always be very dangerous.
Intel is suffering because the sanctions designed to bolster the US semiconductor industry against China's industry cut off Intel's biggest customer - China.
Slow economy here in the USA, Intel's just making adjustments to weather those economic issues, but overall their finances look good and it'll bounce back. I'm not worried about it.
it takes courage and most importantly knowledge and wisdom to walk away . But if you keep going back based on past reputation, when it comes crashing you'll have no one to blame but yourself
Remember well Gelsinger said on record (probably on Bloomberg) that if Intel is not allow to sell certain products to China, then it would not need to expand that much in capacity. Guess he changed his mind. Taxpayers got screwed, that hasn't changed.
America has already failed. Manufacturing means nothing if you don’t have enough buyers. All the ban has done is cut off chip manufacturers from their biggest export market.
Well... see? That's what happens when you can't sell to your biggest customer. Your revenue plummets, your projects get put on hold, you cut personnel... and your former customer establishes alternate sources and continues its progress. Yay, chips act. Way to go.
The Huawei and other Chinese-brand phones with 'hi-end' Chinese chips that have been looked at by experts have not shown any improvement in China's semiconductor-making abilities (as of a year ago). The phones probably work for 95% of the applications they are purchased for by consumers and the Chinese government, with the last 5% used for 'chest-thumping bragging rights' propaganda purposes. Kind of a fake-it-'till-you-make-it' strategy, keep saying how great they are until they can be made at that micro level they are trying to achieve.
US is a democracy (actually a defacto oligarchy/plutocracy) run by simple minded lawyers (they know civil procedure real well though!) who spend all day pandering for money and votes from anyone who will give it to them as AIPAC money isn't enough. China is an authoritarian government run by engineers and economists (that's what happens when a society celebrates the nerdy kids instead of the football players) who have the ability to plan with authority. There are still protests in China but the government tries to listen. The US's trump card however is to use it's military to blow up other countries it deems a threat to it's hegemony so the US government will always be very dangerous.
It's too late for Intel, back in 2012 Intel had one chance left to manufacture a 7nm chip to leap ahead of AMD. Now, AMD, and others are eating their lunch.
If you are Intel shareholders, you might think it's better to get the money from Chip act as soon as possible. Actually, it's the opposite, once Intel get the money and build the new fab without major customers commitment, it will be a lot harder for Intel to spin off IFS (manufacturing).
Intel has repeatedly had setback after setback with its foundry advancements. Intel absolutely needs verifiable proof of viability and ability to meet timelines.
This is not looking good, but what alternatives do the government have? I bought intel when Cheap in the pandemic. I thought was cheap, now I am loosing big. But, I have decided to hold a couple of more years.
the main reason U$A will never able to compete in Chip manufacturing. All the country that do well in chip manufacturing , has Confucianism culture. For chip manufacturing, a high level of discipline is the key, and most Americans today don't possess it. They call it “forced labour" Taiwanese media reported on August 2 that TSMC claimed the production holdup at its Arizona facility was caused by a shortage of trained American labour and that they had sent staff from Taiwan to assist with the factory's development. Labour union officials in Arizona, on the other hand, criticised TSMC for exploiting this as a justification to bring in "low-wage foreign labour."
Remember the idea for this chips act was not to help Intel make a lot of money. It is to keep our high-tech chips manufacturing in the United States for security reasons.
I have a family member who was high level management Phoenix plant. Intel offered several high level managers a million to retire. They did. Intel is building a new plant by this older plant. They are building a plant in Ohio, Germany and another state, I forgot which one, said my family member. They pulled out of building in Isreal. I wonder how many new managers they will have to hire. I doubt the new ones won't make near what the old did.
Not sure what is there for intel to complain about. The government is giving you money but in turn you need to show actual plan and commitment to use these money properly. the fact that intel is still not able to figure out or clean up its money losing department or projects is intel's problem, not how these incentive should be used. Of course, if Biden doesn't put provide this incentive, the market is gonna complain that the government isn't "investing" on US companies ....
@@Tom-gr9ii how long it took Lisa Su to turn around AMD 5 years, 2024 Q4 Intel should be really back. What Lisa given you is Zen 5 have WORSE performance then Zen 4 when launch, Lisa just lost it. Snake oil marketing from AMD.
Most Americans just don’t understand how important it is for Intel to succeed. It takes a long time fill a fab for various reasons. I hope they succeed for the sake of the free world as semiconductors are almost as important as oil.
One big question needs to be ask from intel and amd , “ what is the use of fking new inventions when you guys don’t have a market to sell” . So more layoffs for new innovations is the plan?😅😅😅😅 , now china has already announced the their own 3nm chips.
Capitalism = capitalism Capitalism = hole Socialism = summit Your statement: Hole = corporate summit. It is a non sensible claim as capitalism is the accumulation of capital on fewer and fewer hands while socialism`s whole point is for the recourses to benefit the whole of society not a handful of oligarchs.
Guys engineering tests fail. That is why there are tests. If they don’t fail there would be no tests. Tests fail and that is how products are developed and improved. So your video is least to say awkward.
It's a bipartisan bill. This is a dependency we cannot risk again. The losses from the Covid induced supply chain woes were an order of magnitude bigger.
The US wants to beat China so bad and be less dependent on Taiwan so much so, they'll take big risks. This is one of those. Expect more in the coming days ahead.
I agree with the other commenters but also look at the history of the semiconductor industry in any country. They are all heavily subsidized because it's such an important technology.
Intel's program will take years to implement and we need to follow through on the Chips Act. We remain completely vulnerable as long as almost everything is made in Taiwan. Short sighted politics and Wall Street's gyrations have to be overcome somehow.
the situation isn't that bad, its most likely time that both chip companies and airlines are going to require government assistance. not a bad thing, as long as there is oversight.
Are there any alternative US-based companies that are engaged in cutting edge process fabs? I don't feel a great deal of confidence in Intel in light of their relative stagnation since around 2004. On the flip side, it doesn't seem like there are a lot of alternatives options to nurture a domestic chip champion without going the full central-command-economy route like China and investing on the magnitude of trillions instead of a handful of billions.
TSMC initially took a pass on High NA EUV because they thought it was a dead-end: too expensive and limited to be financially viable. Eventually though, after ASML lowered the price of the equipment for TSMC, TSMC did decide to get some machines. If anything, the fact that Intel went with the technology but TSMC didn’t makes me question if Intel is on the right path. It’s a big gamble for the weaker company to bet on a technology that the stronger, more experienced companies refuse to use.
Intel got destroyed instead of Huawei. Good job America.
@@mwqjdpk Intel destroyed itself when they decided to take a break from innovating and replace the engineers in charge of the company for money hungry people
What a joke. lol. And it received subsidies whereas Huawei received sanctions.
CCP put billion in Huawei that is it.
Lack of any incentives and just promise leading them into a disaster
Intel is suffering because the sanctions designed to bolster the US semiconductor industry against China's industry cut off Intel's biggest customer - China.
It's "incentives" here, but "subsidies" in other countries.
"illegal" subsidies.
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It’s plain corruption. They take the money, disburse the money then declare bankruptcy.
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Biden, Raimondo and Trump: "we're going to destroy Huawei and China's ability to make chips ...." Back in reality: Intel in full blown melt-down despite billions in gifts from taxpayers.
@randygraham926 China has launched a company copying Intels chips. China opened a pentel overnight.
@@user-zu5do6ri6r pentel is japanese
It's called "incentives" here, and "illegal subsidies" in other countries.
From intel's point of view, the main problem is that the subsidy amount is too small.
@@amandagrant4331 Excuse me, ma'am. You used the wrong terms. It's called "incentives" here, and "illegal subsidies" in other countries.
Typical disconnect between government policy objectives and reality. The politicians make grand announcements and claim credit, while projects fail down the road on someone else's watch.
Sounds to me that Intel made grand claims and promises to help push thru this Chip Act as a money grab. Now, those claims and promises have proven false.
Intel is having an under capacity issue
Banning high tech exports to a certain country is not helping Intel.
Shhh.. don’t interrupt
@@HanS662 OK. I retract that statement.
There's not much to export in the US. The technology to make the chips in itself is not American, it is European.
Thanks to the sanction, now China is in full confidence for RISC-V architecture. Plus, Chinese companies are no longer picky between China chip (and related tech) and their western counterpart's. They have no choice but to choose China's, creating markets for China chip producers.
@@Hans-gb4mv True. It belongs to ASML of the Netherlands.
waste of tax payers money
8B $ dont even pay the concrete intel is pouring, intel is spending 100B on fabs while having little cash flow. Meteor lake cpu and sierra forest xeon 6 server cpu are the first chips an American company produced on uv based process, done by intel in 2024. Tax payer can build fabs themselves if they wont help those who volunteered
Money can't solve everything.
where are those money gone ?
It's not tax payers' money. The US doesn't intend to pay back their debt. In addition, they can just print money to spend.
The money hasn't even been given to them yet. Did anyone watch the video?
Intel is the new Boeing.
You aren't very smart, are you?
US has over subsidized chip industry. Maybe over capacity
It’s only penny compared to to China
It's called "incentives" here, and "illegal subsidies" in other countries.
It's national security concern. If Taiwan is invaded there won't be an oversimplification. Subsidizing Intel, TSMC and Samsung (in Texas), Micron Technology and Texas Instruments are all about making sure if there is war the economy and the war machine doesn't all grind to a halt.
China subsidies for its industries are bad.
US subsidies for this industries are good.
Chinese companies spend subsidies on importing the business.
US companies spend subsidies on share buy backs.
On point bro
It's called "incentives" here in the US, and "illegal subsidies" in other countries.
the structure of your statements is very sus, if the government left intel alone like they have done since the 70s they would not be discussing this on Bloomberg would they? But keep in mind intel is suppose to spend money during a retraction cycle which causes even more problems for a business losing market share due to management’ under the ceo, AI has destroyed intel’s business model due to the very difference in capabilities between gpu and cpu’s. Intel stop share buybacks when the stock was trading above 30 USD, it lost a 3rd of its market cap when they announced how horrible their earnings were going to be, as their new CPU’s were failing
I guess it's not just that only guy who spent grandma's savings on INTEL
But but China subsidized. We play by the rules.
😂😂😂 incentives are THE subsidized from the US government 😂😂😂
your rules that failed
US ACCUSE others of subsidizing. Yet they are the largest culprit !. When you point One finger, the remaining FOUR points back
It's called "incentives" here, and "illegal subsidies" in other countries.
Huawei and SMIC on the other hand have done very well. Based on current policies it is absolutely inevitable that China will dominate in both chip production/fabs and in the underlying technologies. This is what happens when politicians with no real-world knowledge make decisions in areas in which they are woefully underqualified. Unless the Netherlands say a firm 'no' to the USA, ASML is a dead man walking. Raimondo in particular should be fired, she has been an absolute disaster, she single-handedly has caused more economic problems for the USA than anyone in recent history.
US is a democracy (actually a defacto oligarchy/plutocracy) run by simple minded lawyers (they know civil procedure real well though!) who spend all day pandering for money and votes from anyone who will give it to them as AIPAC money isn't enough. China is an authoritarian government run by engineers and economists (that's what happens when a society celebrates the nerdy kids instead of the football players) who have the ability to plan with authority. There are still protests in China but the government tries to listen. The US's trump card however is to use it's military to blow up other countries it deems a threat to it's hegemony so the US government will always be very dangerous.
Intel is suffering because the sanctions designed to bolster the US semiconductor industry against China's industry cut off Intel's biggest customer - China.
Betting on a sinking ship bc its a legacy and big name, rather than looking into the company itself
Slow economy here in the USA, Intel's just making adjustments to weather those economic issues, but overall their finances look good and it'll bounce back. I'm not worried about it.
@@DunDun-e43 you should look into intel personally, not all as bad as the market makes out
Intel is simply following the footsteps of Starliner.
Intel abandoned America.
it takes courage and most importantly knowledge and wisdom to walk away . But if you keep going back based on past reputation, when it comes crashing you'll have no one to blame but yourself
Remember well Gelsinger said on record (probably on Bloomberg) that if Intel is not allow to sell certain products to China, then it would not need to expand that much in capacity. Guess he changed his mind. Taxpayers got screwed, that hasn't changed.
If intel fails then America fails - manufacturing has to work- only American game in town
America has already failed.
Manufacturing means nothing if you don’t have enough buyers. All the ban has done is cut off chip manufacturers from their biggest export market.
Well... see? That's what happens when you can't sell to your biggest customer. Your revenue plummets, your projects get put on hold, you cut personnel... and your former customer establishes alternate sources and continues its progress. Yay, chips act. Way to go.
You're right but Washington doesn't want to hear it.
So many ccp 🤖
@@TruthTeller8888 Truth hurts?
The Huawei and other Chinese-brand phones with 'hi-end' Chinese chips that have been looked at by experts have not shown any improvement in China's semiconductor-making abilities (as of a year ago). The phones probably work for 95% of the applications they are purchased for by consumers and the Chinese government, with the last 5% used for 'chest-thumping bragging rights' propaganda purposes. Kind of a fake-it-'till-you-make-it' strategy, keep saying how great they are until they can be made at that micro level they are trying to achieve.
@@directxxxx71some people can’t connect dots as well as thinking 1 + 1 = 5😅
US is a democracy (actually a defacto oligarchy/plutocracy) run by simple minded lawyers (they know civil procedure real well though!) who spend all day pandering for money and votes from anyone who will give it to them as AIPAC money isn't enough. China is an authoritarian government run by engineers and economists (that's what happens when a society celebrates the nerdy kids instead of the football players) who have the ability to plan with authority. There are still protests in China but the government tries to listen. The US's trump card however is to use it's military to blow up other countries it deems a threat to it's hegemony so the US government will always be very dangerous.
Why should Intel get the incentive, if they're not going to deliver the desired increase in US-production ?
Because there's no one else that can.
It's too late for Intel, back in 2012 Intel had one chance left to manufacture a 7nm chip to leap ahead of AMD. Now, AMD, and others are eating their lunch.
If you are Intel shareholders, you might think it's better to get the money from Chip act as soon as possible. Actually, it's the opposite, once Intel get the money and build the new fab without major customers commitment, it will be a lot harder for Intel to spin off IFS (manufacturing).
they can give large discount on their chip and then it will great for buyer that time. Which can be anyone
More excuse to give more money to Intel
Intel has repeatedly had setback after setback with its foundry advancements. Intel absolutely needs verifiable proof of viability and ability to meet timelines.
Because it's a company led by white ppl.
Once the Chinese figure out how to mass produce those CPUs at 20% or lower price, that's the end of Intel as we know it.
Bloomberg Television, cool video I really liked it
This is not looking good, but what alternatives do the government have? I bought intel when Cheap in the pandemic. I thought was cheap, now I am loosing big. But, I have decided to hold a couple of more years.
Wonderful karma. Evil intentions backfire !
Intel was closing up shop in my local area way before this....temporary high flying profits don't make a company immortal.
Screw them! Not my vote, this is how they issued subpoena to NVDA
Shocker
They are giving so much taxpayer $ as subsidies to Intel .
But Intel still .....
Intel, Boeing or even Tesla (without Shanghai Giga factory) are in trouble
50 cent army ???
the main reason U$A will never able to compete in Chip manufacturing.
All the country that do well in chip manufacturing , has Confucianism culture.
For chip manufacturing, a high level of discipline is the key, and most Americans today don't possess it.
They call it “forced labour"
Taiwanese media reported on August 2 that TSMC claimed the production holdup at its Arizona facility was caused by a shortage of trained American labour and that they had sent staff from Taiwan to assist with the factory's development. Labour union officials in Arizona, on the other hand, criticised TSMC for exploiting this as a justification to bring in "low-wage foreign labour."
Hey!
It's just taxpayers money!
Enough!
If it's AI, buy, buy, buy.
NOT INTEL !
The people in Johnstown Ohio had that factory forced onto them.
Remember the idea for this chips act was not to help Intel make a lot of money. It is to keep our high-tech chips manufacturing in the United States for security reasons.
Good job！
In case you were wondering where that 25% of your purchasing power went over these past 3 years. Inflation Reduction Act indeed.
The government hasn't even given Intel the money yet, but I get it government bad.
I have a family member who was high level management Phoenix plant. Intel offered several high level managers a million to retire. They did. Intel is building a new plant by this older plant. They are building a plant in Ohio, Germany and another state, I forgot which one, said my family member. They pulled out of building in Isreal. I wonder how many new managers they will have to hire. I doubt the new ones won't make near what the old did.
Intel Couldn't catch up amid the Chip War. No New innovation But lots of lies😅.
Who are their customers? ThaT is the important question!
break the company... and then give the money to the foundry company
Asking Intel to make advanced chips is like asking the American to concoct the soup stock of haidilao hotpot
A CPU company without its own fabs is just silly. Depending on ASML, Global Foundries, Samsung, TSMC, and the like is a joke.
So the only condition is intel is honest about the money it gets but intel can’t comply 😂😂😂😂😂😂
intel is no longer a state of the art in what they do... I would not give them money because is likely it wont be profitable
The old “money hole”
The classic American pastime
Who the heck is buying intel cpus? Amd ate their lunch, and apple has their own silicon.
2/3rds of data centers use Intel mate. Stop the copium
Intel still has 64% market share overall and almost 80% market share on laptop CPU market. But they are loosing market share every quarter.
@@huckleberryfinn6578and this is bound to change in the coming years sadly
You must be living in a hole only know home computers. Lol
@@NighthunterNyx tell that to their shareholders. Also google copium youre using it wrong.
If US chipmakers cannot sell to the largest manufacturing market in the world .... whatcha expect?
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good luck!
Not sure what is there for intel to complain about. The government is giving you money but in turn you need to show actual plan and commitment to use these money properly. the fact that intel is still not able to figure out or clean up its money losing department or projects is intel's problem, not how these incentive should be used. Of course, if Biden doesn't put provide this incentive, the market is gonna complain that the government isn't "investing" on US companies ....
All because of the poor decisions by earlier CEOs
A capable CEO should. be able to reverse damages done by earlier CEOs. AMD CEO Lisa Su is a good example.
@@Tom-gr9ii how long it took Lisa Su to turn around AMD 5 years, 2024 Q4 Intel should be really back.
What Lisa given you is Zen 5 have WORSE performance then Zen 4 when launch, Lisa just lost it.
Snake oil marketing from AMD.
Great news
Nvidia should buy Intel while it's cheap and start producing their own chip.
Guess they should have invested in the company rather than buying back their own stock
bad quality chips. whoever is leading that company should be fired
2024-8-14 TSMC’s U$. factory has yet to produce a single chip.
Cumulative investment in 4 years reached US$65 billion.
Damn the year to date chart is brutal
ARM is the future.
Intel has an overcapacity issue😅
intel should just become an IP and R&D company.
What are you smoking? Intel tech is obsolete that’s why it’s making huge losses
Why blamed Biden when he doesn't know where he is or doing most of the time
Exit strategy possibly
Most Americans just don’t understand how important it is for Intel to succeed. It takes a long time fill a fab for various reasons. I hope they succeed for the sake of the free world as semiconductors are almost as important as oil.
For the sake of the free world 😂😂😂
Apple silicon has blown intel out of the water.
Why not bet on AMD too? Why put all your eggs in one basket when you have two?
amd doesn't have a chip factory.
AMD doesn’t manufacture only design
AMD is fabless.
AMD is not a chip manufacturer, neither is Nvidia or Qualcomm.
High end Chip manufacturers are TSMC, Samsung, and Intel.
One big question needs to be ask from intel and amd , “ what is the use of fking new inventions when you guys don’t have a market to sell” . So more layoffs for new innovations is the plan?😅😅😅😅 , now china has already announced the their own 3nm chips.
Revolving door can make u easy money, whicn makes R&D is not as neccessary
All of bidens bets are a house of cards 😅
Lol, they havent released a penny to intel and they expect..😂
INTEL get rid of 18A LOCK STOCK AND BARREL
to Huawei at rock bottom prices.
It will bring INTEL immediately to black.
They lost second biggest market in China,does that have anything to do with it?
It has everything to do with it. Destroy your own market and that what you get
Funny how no one ends up in jail
So basically Intel’s gotten themselves into a bit if a catch-22 kinda pickle
Looks are these comments. So many comment are CPP bots
AMD is the solution
Not at all. AMD is fabless. AMD has zero chip fabrication capability.
capitalism = corporate socialism
Capitalism = capitalism
Capitalism = hole
Socialism = summit
Your statement: Hole = corporate summit.
It is a non sensible claim as capitalism is the accumulation of capital on fewer and fewer hands while socialism`s whole point is for the recourses to benefit the whole of society not a handful of oligarchs.
He should’ve bet on Nvidia and AMD instead.
Neither has fab capabilities
When you sanction your biggest customer.
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Biden sure has the lead touch
Guys engineering tests fail. That is why there are tests. If they don’t fail there would be no tests. Tests fail and that is how products are developed and improved. So your video is least to say awkward.
Sanctions or shoot ourselves in the foot policy does not work ! 😂
Communism at its worst. Stop unneccesary goverment funding of businesses.
The government has been subsidizing the ruling class for decades. Remember the bank bail out in 2008?
It's a bipartisan bill. This is a dependency we cannot risk again. The losses from the Covid induced supply chain woes were an order of magnitude bigger.
How is this legal to give tax payer money to 1 company?
The US wants to beat China so bad and be less dependent on Taiwan so much so, they'll take big risks. This is one of those. Expect more in the coming days ahead.
If US can't make the best chips, we lose.
Probably, because there are no other US companies that can manufacture high-end chips? It's not like there is a choice.
I agree with the other commenters but also look at the history of the semiconductor industry in any country. They are all heavily subsidized because it's such an important technology.
@@Dev-hj8wk Then how dare US criticise China when they do the same?
Intel's program will take years to implement and we need to follow through on the Chips Act. We remain completely vulnerable as long as almost everything is made in Taiwan. Short sighted politics and Wall Street's gyrations have to be overcome somehow.
Intel? Haha 😂
LoL!
the situation isn't that bad, its most likely time that both chip companies and airlines are going to require government assistance. not a bad thing, as long as there is oversight.
Are there any alternative US-based companies that are engaged in cutting edge process fabs? I don't feel a great deal of confidence in Intel in light of their relative stagnation since around 2004. On the flip side, it doesn't seem like there are a lot of alternatives options to nurture a domestic chip champion without going the full central-command-economy route like China and investing on the magnitude of trillions instead of a handful of billions.
Intel has access to High NA EUV technology that not even TSMC can get yet, it makes no sense how they can be this far behind.
TSMC initially took a pass on High NA EUV because they thought it was a dead-end: too expensive and limited to be financially viable. Eventually though, after ASML lowered the price of the equipment for TSMC, TSMC did decide to get some machines. If anything, the fact that Intel went with the technology but TSMC didn’t makes me question if Intel is on the right path. It’s a big gamble for the weaker company to bet on a technology that the stronger, more experienced companies refuse to use.
@@my2iu you don't need to take risks when you're behind.
Third rate workforce.
😂😂
Hahahahahahaha
Intel will make a comeback
Bloomberg/Reuters the FUD master. Buy INTC to 3x my investment within 2 years.
Semi companies need to be led and run by Asians.
I can't see why, maybe you could explain it to me and everyone else reding these comments?
Yes 😂 by Indians 🎉
Smaller the people, smaller the chips.
@@deltrinos Indians for software companies only
@@deltrinos Indians talk, Chinese build!