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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 พ.ค. 2024
- Ever since Crash Bandicoot 4: It's About Time released, some have probably been wondering whether or not post Naughty Dog games are canon. It seems like they are, let's explore!
0:00 Crash Bandicoot 4: It’s About Time - How Its Timeline Was Announced
0:38 Are Post Naughty Dog Crash Games Still Canon?
2:15 Remember That Last Voice Line During the Credits of Crash 4?
3:49 Paul Yan Mentions Chronological Timeline
4:46 How Another Wrath Of Cortex Could Happen
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I hope we get a wrath of cortex like game with crunch
I'd like to think that Warth of Cortex and the other sequels are canon to Warped's bad ending where you only get the crystal. Since the Warped's true ending is where you get every collectible.
So basically after establishing in the bad ending that both sides of the Bandicoots and scientists really need to acquire the Gems they... Just mutually stop looking for the Gems forever and drop the whole conflict they were in the middle of until another game happens, for basically no reason?
@@TomTheyy pretty much yeah, because the crystals in Wrath of Cortex(for the most part) don't serve any purpose (lore wise) compared to Cortex Strikes Back and Warped
I like to believe that Crash 4 follows the good ending of Warped, while Wrath of Cortex follows the bad ending where they escape. On top of that, I like to imagine that the Mutant games take place in an separate timeline that was created when Crash collected the Power Crystals from the past in Warped and Wrath of Cortex. Without those Crystals in the past, who knows what kind of changes it could've had on the world.
That’s actually a very interesting theory actually. I like it a lot.
Ooo cool
Not gonna lie that kinda sounds like the Zelda timeline after Ocarina of Time
Is it possible that the multiverse introduced in crash 4 can open a possible crossover with Spyro The Dragon 🤔
Who knows!
The crossover technically already happened in Crash Bandicoot Purple lol.
Granted it's not a good game, but nonetheless...
I'd say the ending of 3 Warped was what spawned multiple timelines (post naughty dog games) allowing the events of It's About Time to establish its multiverse's existence and within them are some dimensions/universes (not always in sync with time), so I'd list the alternate timelines and dimensions like this:
The Traveller's Timeline - Wrath of Cortex & Twinsanity + the 9th, 10th and 11th Dimensions.
The Mojo Timeline - Of the Titans & Mind Over Mutant
And then there's...
The Prime/Mainstream Timeline - 4 It's About Time, the untitled 5th game + Tawna's Dimension, and many more.
I would love to see the evil twins again someday. From Crash Twinsanity. They we’re so cool I thought!
With the wrath of cortex intro, I just always assumed that it took place after the ending with cortex just sitting there (the one with time machine not being destroyed)
I think that there should be more Crash racing games.
would love to see a crash twinsanity remake that game had so much potential with all the cut content and is still in my opinion the best crash game
The cut content... tell me about it!
I hope we get remakes or rebuilds or whatever of the other sequels
The regular ending of 3 doesn't have Cortext being sent back in time and tuned into a baby.
my theory is:
Normal Ending - Wrath of Cortex
100% Ending - Its About Time
I always found myself scratching my head about how the numerous plot holes could be filled, such as N. Brio turning back into a human after getting trapped in the museum as a pterodactyl. I was always hoping that someday, they'd make another game to link Crash 4 and Wrath of Cortex together much more efficiently and straighten out all the still-unanswered plot holes.
Personally I'm hoping that they do something with N.Trance. His ability to brainwash Crash's allies could even be a good reason for why Crunch gets introduced as a villain only to turn good later, as well as for Dingodile to return as a boss fight despite turning a new leaf.
Interesting way of looking at it :O
This is a really interesting theory overall. I would love to see crunch come back in a mainline game someday. He’s such an awesome character I think.
I wish for Crash Bash, The Wrath of Cortex and Twinsanity remakes
I’d love to see a reimagining/remake of Wrath of Cortex. I’m one of the rare few that actually loves the game haha
I still remember my disc getting stuck at the loading screen :(
I wonder, if they're going to have Crunch act like himself or differently?
Himself as in start as a bad guy?
@@VtnVivi That good to know 😁👍
Start out as a bad guy who has some reasons to do what he did and both Cortex and Uka Uka treating him terribly with the big guy being able to do nothing about it until he gets his window then Vengeance, honestly his Origins had a lot of mishandled potential that this might be an opportunity to do it right as well as welcoming an old favorite from the Post Naughty Dog era back into the new canon for Crash Bandicoot.
@@bobafett4265 Huh, neat 😊
I would rather have Crunch stay permanently as a bad guy tbh.
He barely had any heroic feats when he was on Crash and Coco's side.
It's often been said that the good games don't need remakes or remasters; it's the _bad ones_ that do. They should be given a second-chance to live-up to their potential.
So following this thread, I hope Toys for Bob does a remake of Wrath of Cortex with their new continuity. This will give them a chance to fix everything that people didn't like about Wrath of Cortex before.
As for explaining Dingodile's and N. Tropy's absence from Cortex's crew...well it could either be explained that Uka Uka _brow-beat them_ into returning, or it could go without explanation at all...given that, when you think about it, _they're not really in the original game._ Wrath of Cortex might feature them in cutscenes, but it's really just glorified cameos - the entire game is just battling an Elemental Terror Variant of Crunch, and the old bosses only showing up in the sidelines of one boss level.
I love that there was a twinsanity reference in the last level
One of the best Crash's content creator.
Much appreciated!
I'm not a big Crash Bandicoot fan, so I wouldn't mind the events of Crash 4 leading to a new series of events happening or similar stories from the post Naughty Dog era of games with some changes here and there.
Either way this is a good opportunity for whoever makes the next Crash Bandicoot game to do some big things. For example since the N. Sane Trilogy, Tawna Bandicoot has become popular again and no one seems to have any problems with her return, so maybe in a future game Crash and co. could run into their Tawna after all these years who then becomes part of the main cast again.
I think when Wrath of Cortex came out, they weren’t necessarily trying to care about continuity as hard at the time. Since it was the first mainline entry after Naughty Dog closed the OG era. Yeah the characters were aware of their defeats, but that was as far as they wanted to go. And just branch off to whatever storyline they wanted to tell to set up a motivate for Crash’s adventures. Pretty much throwing anything, and seeing what sticks. Lol Personally I don’t see Crash being the type of franchise with consistent continuities. Usually the fun for me is seeing what new antagonists could be next. And maybe a few random returns. This is just a way to not upset post Naughty Dog fans. If fans just want post NG era characters back, just include them in a new title instead of trying to revisit the games they were from. That’s just me.
I'd rather see their take on Crunch and Nina Cortex since they were referenced in Crash 4.
@@ci7210 That’d be Duke by mean by mean. I feel like we’ll eventually see them again in some way. Especially after there brief playable moments for the likes of CTRNF for instance.
One of missopportnity’s i found in Crash 4 was going to dimension where we could have seen Aku Aku and Uka Uka as humans before they became masks
They could have dived deeper into their character and explain why Uka Uka became bad guy
That would've so cool!
If the events of WOC take place after IAT, then what is N.Tropy doing working with Cortex (and being so "docile")?
I am a huge Crash Bandicoot fan and I played every Crash game on my Playstation consoles. When I saw your video thumbnail, I wanted to know what made sense. Wither Crash 4 or Wrath of Cortex came after Warped. I always thought Crash 4 was a sequel after the N. Sane trilogy or CTR Nitro Fueled. But looking at it now, how did Cortex and N. Tropy escaped so they could join CTR? I even thought the original CTR was a sequel to Warped. But now I see it looks more like a spin off. And those other games after Wrath of Cortex, those must've been spin offs too. It is kind of confusing to look at how Crash 4 is a sequel to the trilogy. I guess it was planned before until 22 years later after Warped. Still I think some of those other games are canon. Well except the Titan games, they look more like spin offs from another Crash universe.
Cool
Canadian guy eh is simply amazing I think! I don’t know how he does it sometimes.
Nah, he’s fake as hell. He admitted in one of his live-streams that he never actually played the games till the remakes came out (both crash & Spyro).
He’s just another trend-chaser milking the algorithm. If you like him, good for you, but I don’t take him seriously very much.
@@puffythedestroyer8878 yeah fair enough then. I just admire his work overall. Not my favourite but I’ll take him or leave him.
@@BrennySpain ye.
@@puffythedestroyer8878 for sure.
I wouldn't be surprised if this becomes an excuse for them to be asking for a remake of Wrath of Cortex, which for me would be a somewhat stupid and even somewhat meaningless idea, I know they can take concepts from other titles to make something new, but What would be the point in making a remake of those games?
Also good video.
I feel like the moment you introduce a multiverese you can't really say that something isn't cannon anymore
"Dingodile turns good in Crash 4 but he's a villain again in post-ND games." Well I mean, did y'all really expect for him to never ever be a franchise villain again?
Personally I think it'd be really disappointing for Crash 5 to be a "redo" of Wrath of Cortex/Twinsanity. I just want another fresh instalment in the series, especially as a follow-up to Crash 4, and with a long time waiting. It doesn't HAVE to make a comment on the other titles, and they have proven to be capable of making their own ideas after all. And can't we go like, two games before we start repeating threads of prior titles within the same less than two handfuls of mainline instalments?
Like, Crash 4 has already been taking inspiration from the post-ND titles in various ways. But the difference is that Crash 4 wasn't just "let's do the Elemental Masks again" or "let's do Twinsanity again", it took inspiration from those concepts to do its own thing. 4 different powerful masks with unique abilities, a different brief Crash/Cortex team-up in the story. It's just kinda ironic that people desperately wants the franchise to move beyond nostalgia remakes, yet also want them to essentially redo WoC's storyline "better" in a new game. Either remake the game or don't, not a compromise that satisfies no one. Especially with the narrative of trying to do "better" than the post-ND era, yet people also want to essentially retread it. Instead of, again, just letting the franchise go another sequel or two continuing the creative potential showcased in Crash 4 rather than *IMMEDIATELY* going back to rehashing stuff through Crash 5 lol.
I think it's possible both It's About Time and Wrath of Cortex exist in the same timeline. Dingodile could have rejoined Cortex's army after It's About Time. In Wrath of Cortex it's said Cortex has been working on Crunch since the last time Crash defeated him. He didn't say which game was the last time. So Wrath of Cortex could take place after It's About Time.
I missed Jungle Rumble level. 😔
Personally in my head, I just see the wrath of cortex and it’s about time happening in two different timelines and not the same one. It’s honestly too confusing for my tastes sorry lol
I'm honestly not against the idea of Crunch making a comeback, possibly retelling his Origins doing it even better than before, because a lot of theming with Wrath of Cortex with the ideas there were absolutely awesome, it's just a shame they were executed nowhere near as cool as they sounded on paper, one idea I had in mind for how to handle Crunch is that he's basically the one that will terminate team Bandicoot as we know them, think someone like Bane from Batman who was the one who broke Batman to say he did and is possibly one the Batman's greatest foes due to the fact he's as tough as he is smart, a brilliant tactician and leader if you will, imagine a figure on the lines of that who is someone isn't screwing around and can counter every move in the book that the Bandicoot Duo have, the idea I had in mind he can absorb energy like it's nothing and act on an instinctive level faster than Crash or Coco can do, also to give him a Gruff, Rugged appearance using Wolverine as inspiration so having a different kind of coolness to him than what we seen him before and also being very intelligent, heck the Elementals being introduced in this new hypothetical retelling of Wrath of Cortex could also be a good demonstration of Crunch's ability to absorb energy and even wearing mystical masks he can take them to overdrive. But yeah that's about all I got on a reimagined Crunch and his story, also have this game have more of a World Tour feel to it than anything else, which would be a bit different than anything we seen with Crash.
I KNEW Crash had lore but my friends would tell me he doesn’t 😂
I do think if they reintroduce Crunch the story probably might be altered.
What it Uka Uka abandons Cortex and Crunch is N Brio's creation.
Also hope they reintroduce Nina Cortex as well. Was thinking Crash and Coco infiltrate the Evil Academy to meet her
I'd love to see Nina brought back!
Yeah I could do with a timeline explanation 😅
Other mainline games being canon(even if It’s about Time is direct follow up to Crash Bandicoot Warped) doesn’t bother me that much
I mean sure most of Crash’s games that came during PS2 era are either mediocre or mixed bag but some have their fans
As for Crunch Easter eggs in Crash 4 i think in new timeline that Cruhch was being experimented before/during events of Crash 1
It proves that the Post Naughty Dog Era Games are Other Alternate Timelines that happened after Warped Did Happen as Crash Bandicoot 4 It's About Time is ignoring the other alternate timelines (you know, The indirect sequels that are set in the original works being the trilogy but have no direct connection to it) as they have already taken places hence the Crash Bandicoot Multiverse we have today. CGE and TFB are Right. A Reboot Shared Universe!
Not to mention the Time Twister was destroyed at the end of Warped so there might've been repercussions for causing it to implode on itself. Thus the Multiverse.
We desperately need a bash remake
I doubt it can happen, however a spiritual successor of sorts could happen, bring back a bunch of minigames from Bash along with Boom Bang, as well as many new ones along the way, I could see a rerelease of the OG PS1 release happening at some point, as long Activision Blizzard and Microsoft don't make it hard for Sony then yes.
@@bobafett4265 that would be soo badass
They said no more remakes guys 😒
@@djtoxicdhgsorry to say this to you but activison confirmed won’t remastered them all no more sorry but you people hate it before
We don't
(Looks at Thumbnail)
Yes, but will be good.
Personally, I'm fine with the other games being in a different timeline, dimension or universe. This would allow and pave the way for a Crash 5 without necessarily alienating what had happened in those games, but also makes way to support the ideas of the original games that was followed up by Crash 4. An inspirative sequel like that would be cool.
First Toys 4 Bob need to be freed from the crap they're stuck in and be allowed to make real Crash games again
Seeing as how they're currently focused on Rumble, time will tell really.
why not just skip to twinsanity make that crash 5, maybe implement crunch within the story
First
I’m afraid I don’t buy this.
Toys for Bob are notorious for disregarding the work put in by other developers and doing their own thing.
To me, it feels more like a blatant cover-up that they’re retconning those games out of the timeline because “fans didn’t like them.”
But the irony is that their IS a place in the timeline where they can be proven correct if taken advantage of - by using a timeline split.
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*NO! Not using Warped!*
The endings in Warped - and by extension Crash 2 - are linear to each other. There is *no good or bad ending;* just the one canonical ending that leads into the next game. After all, you can’t get the 100% endings in those games without getting the any% endings first. They are designed that way to make the endings linear on purpose.
The REAL timeline split that can be used is the first game. Because unlike the other games, you have a *CHOICE* as to which ending you want.
Neither ending conflicts with one-another’s story. Facing off against Cortex leads into the events of Crash 2, but taking the early exit in The Great Hall does not and currently leads nowhere. And the vice-versus is true as well. Each ending is its own stand-alone conclusion, thereby making this an ideal place to put a timeline split.
So why not use THAT as the basis to build the alleged new timeline off of?
Wow, you pretty much summed it up my dude. Kinda surprised more people are coming to this conclusion & sharing c4’s cracks beyond the difficulty. Tbh, I wouldn’t mind if tfb have no involvement with the next game.
Didn’t know tfb supposedly has a history of “over correcting”, if I understand you rightly
-(though I’m not surprised, Yan & his boys have this kinda “snooty” arua about ‘em. The fact the openly admitted to padding Crash 4 & making it ball-bustingly hard on purpose to explicitly target completionists & “pros”, gives credence to that. Sounds like they’re Just another out-of-touch studio who doesn’t really care that much.)
Also that last part of your statement? That’s exactly what Crash Landed was going to be before the Activitision layoffs: a big reset, new crash, new ideas to bounce off of.
If tfb wanted to do that, then creating a wedge after an established sequel isn’t exactly the smart way to do it.
One last tell of their attitude/perspective on crash: alt-universe Tawna. They tried to grandstand and hype her up as if she’s gonna be this powerful & and iconic part of of the series moving forward - only for her to be a dime-a-dozen “ lone-wolf badass punk girl”, - bland; inoffensive; out of place “edgy” backstory; & players weren’t too keen on her, nor had felt any connection with her to the rest of the game. She’s more or less the image of tfb’s missteps (& likely, ego).
@@puffythedestroyer8878 After Rumble, I think people would be glad to see anyone other than TfB make the next game.
I don't doubt that they're good developers. It's just that their respect for IP integrity is either lacking or misinformed.
I wouldn't be surprised if this is the beginning of the end for them.
@@greatsageclok-roo9013 even though rumble currently has a sweat-lord problem & a controversial & wonky battle-pass, I admit I’d still like to try it some day. I find a platforming arena-brawler with my favorite crash line up & a few different modes a novel concept. Of course that depends on A. Decent bot-support for offline play; B. A pc release for services like steam; C. Go free-to play. If you’re gonna feature some kind of seasonal content system, that’s the kind of environment it’s better suited for, not a full price title.
(I still find it dumb Nitro-Fueled didn’t get a pic port & longer life-span)
Or they can leave WOC and that whole era in the past and forget about it entirely. All it brought were mostly mediocre half baked games, and twinsanity which was decent but borderline broken.