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The Biggest Danger on Bike Lanes
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 พ.ค. 2017
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A quick analysis of the most common dangers faced by cyclists.
Things have changed a lot and the pedestrians behaviour is slowly changing.
Do you want to send a clip? Here's the email : onecyclistinlisbon@gmail.com
( more info check the end of this video : www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OwSm... )
Random stuff that happens while cycling in Lisbon
May 2017
Lisbon, Portugal
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Don't judge me so quick. These clips are just a view from a cyclist. Actually I have changed a lot since I've made this video.
you show a lot of ignorance when living in a city of millions, bike lanes are for everyone either on foot, jogging, walking a dog or walking to school......You don't see me making a video when I see cyclist on the road with cars (btw stupidest idea ever) but hey I am respectful despite my views and treat others how i would wanna be treated.
Do you like order? In Portugal bicycles can be fined if they use the sidewalk and what I do....I cycle where it's legal such as bike lanes and on the road. Pedestrians are fined if they walk on a bike lane. I like order and if all were able to follow the rules this video wasn't even made because there weren't reasons.
Straight forward question how can they fine you while riding a bike on the sidewalk..... since bikes have no need for licensing therefore you do not need to carry I.D just ride away...unless you have a criminal record and your prints are on file they have no way to tell who you are to issue a ticket....same with pedestrians.
Again, you are not Portuguese and you do not know our rules. I do have to carry an ID when I cycle and they don't need licensing. If they catch me without one I have to go the police station, especially if I get involved in an accident. Read more about my country before making all those assumptions.
Dont need to be portuguese to know human behavior plain and simple......
There are ignorant cyclist who ride where they want just as there are ignorant pedestrians who walk and jog where they want......no amount of you video taping and recording this will ever stop them....no laws will stop them......but if you just learn to live life and not worry what others are doing your life will be much better. they will be caught and they will face the fines one day for their behavior....relax ride your bike take in the scenery life will be much better
"Cycling in the sidewalk"
Pedestrians: Use the bike lane...
"Cycling in the bike lane"
Pedestrian: Be respectful! The path doesn't belong to you!
lol
That's my favorite, lol. "The bike lane doesn't belong to you! It's for everyone!" Then why isn't it called an everyone lane? Seems it was intended for bikes, and your sidewalk, was intended for walking. xD
@Jon Dough Well i am fine with a cycle lane if it is an option, just as pedestrians should be fine with the sidewalk if its there.
@Jon Dough where do you live that bikes are not allowed on the road?
@@giordanogiostra1110 alot of places pretty sure, they have bike lanes so that the cars can pass without being softlocked by a cyclist.
@Jon Dough And pedestrians will tell the cyclist to f off the sidewalk too. What kind of world are we even living in?
at least you have bike lanes (;
Lol Plechito
y pensar que luego plech incluyo este tipo de videos en un video de un poco de todo grande te adoro good videos better recompilations
In my country roads are roads drive wherever you want
At least you have a bike.
so now people yell at you for not using them and harass you when you do
"and what do you do for those who are listening to music ?"
Install a truck horn on your bike.
When I'm walking in an area with cyclists around and have headphones in, I make sure to look behind me to make sure there's none behind me. If there is, I'll move over to let them through.
Install megaphone on the bell 😂
That idea is not as silly as it might sound. You can buy air horns for bicycles, they don't need power, they just used compressed air stored in a plastic bottle.
They are very loud and effective.
a friend of mine installed a truck horn on his tiny bike years ago... it was so fun
My friend installed an air horn on his bike, it was just about perfect.
I will be way more aware of bike lanes now. Thank you for bringing awareness to this! I used to be guilty of walking in the bike lane sometimes, but I now see that it’s actually dangerous for both of us. Glad you made this video :)
:)
And if you still do it walk on the left side. You won’t bother cyclist behind you and can easily get out of the way for upcoming cyclist as you can see them
@@elaine5504 I actually find it even more annoying than pedestrians walking on the right side. If there is someone walking in front of me and I cannot overtake in that moment, I can slow down. If the person is walking towards me, I actually have to stop (mostly resulting in the pedestrians then stepping into the other lane without looking, with oncoming traffic from behind them). I know this is the recommendation for walking on a road without sidewalk, but then it is assumed you would actually get out of the way if the oncoming car doesnt see you or due to traffic is not able to leave it's lane. Pedestrians walking on the left side of the bike lane do not get out of the way for a bike (at least in Valencia, Spain. Might be different elsewhere.)
@@jupitherdanach7643 Yeah, in my experience pedestrians on the oncoming side are far worse, especially when there are other pedestrians around. The people walking on the opposite side are usually alone in my experience, so you end up with people on both sides of the trail going the same direction, acting as a funnel for traffic in both directions which makes it far more dangerous for everyone.
Those people also don't get out of the way because it seems like they just expect you to go around them anyways. What's the point of trying to travel in a way that makes it easier to get out of the way in advance if you're just not gonna get out of the way to begin with?
No offense but you don t need much brain to get it yourself
3:09 did you just body shame his bike?
MemeOverlord_ 😔
“MemeOverlord_”
"Zachary Villard"
honestly villard sounds like a pretty PogChamp name btw
@Lambda 😔
Well i mean its called "bike lane" for a reason, if you ride on the sidewalk they always say "Don't you have a bike lane to ride on?" but if you ride on bike lane, and you confront them, they think they did nothing wrong...
Exactly! Thank you.
NiX well some places like the Brooklyn bridge shouldn't have bike lanes. There are too many people on there to have both bikers and pedestrians.
Fking people nowadays man. They don't know shiy how to follow the rules.
You have a bad impression, you are talking about people like they share the same mind. Some are really annoyed by stupid cyclists on the pedestrian side when they have theirs. And there are OTHER people who walk on cycling lane.
IF WE DON’T GET TO BIKE ON THE SIDEWALK, WHY SHOULD YOU BE ABLE TO WALK ON THE BIKE LANES?
Exactly!
So then cars should be able to drive on bike lanes then.
@@snakerstran9101 I mean, they won't fit. Bike lanes are not as common as roads, in case you haven't noticed.
@@edgarglopes Dude that was clearly sarcastic.
@Beep the Sheep I don't know where you live, but in my country bike lanes are financed the same way as roads so we are already paying for it. Also, I don't know why you want 11 year olds to have insurance, registration and whatever MOT is, to ride the bike? (In my country you are only allowed to ride on the sidewalk until you are 10 years old or signs specifically permit it)
“It might be weird to claim but sometimes I feel more safe surrounded by cars” you and me both, you and me both. As a cyclist in NYC, I felt that viscerally.
Well you live in NYC, cars don’t move in NYC
@@sleepdeep305 haha, they move alright - this ain't LA
In the Netherlands we almost never have this problem because almost everybody bikes and there is a bike lane on every road. This video makes me so angry lol.
I went to the Netherlands, and it's just crazy to a tourist. Everyone passes near you at a very high speed, even in front of trams or cars. It's just tradition
It is also ilegal if you get hit by a bike on a bike lane its your fault
Oscar Giebels i know. im dutch 😆🇳🇱
Ja hahaha, als we meer fietsen dan inwoners in ons land hebben denk ik wel dat iedereen begrijpt dat ze maar gewoon op de stoep moeten lopen.
Oscar Giebels i've seen vlogs from people in Amsterdam and there is a bike in like every frame of the video
Should we start biking on the sidewalks?
Clay lol that gets u a ticket and maybe a fine lol
Go drive a car in a mall
as if you dont already do that
You already do that. I had a bicylcle run straight into me on a narrow sidewalk.
Yes. Show dem bitches.
Tip: if you put in bikelanes, use a physical boundry with the sidewalk like a height difference.
In Poland we use different coluoration and clear marking. The bike lanes are red while the sidewalks are grey
@@sebasbot01 thats not enough because people often dont see that when walking
@@squierstrat9502 believe me, it's impossible to miss
@@sebasbot01 The issue is with the people running, they could've done it on a bigger sidewalk, but they prefer to do it on the bike lane - I don't know why, but they are aware that it's a lane for bikes
That costs money
I know it's been 3 years, but olá de Portugal! É sempre bom ver um canal português com um tipo de conteúdo diferente. Parabéns, continua
Everyone in the comments like:"dude, just slow down a bit", "live and let live" ,"just live the pedestrians be".
I'm with you. If I use my car and there are people in the middle of the road stoping for a kiss, I honk.I'm late for work and have no time for that.
If I'm in my bike and there are people chilling in the bike lane, I honk. I'm late for work and have no time for that.
If I'm chilling, walking down the streets hand in hand with my wife, I do it on the side walk, cause other people don't have to have time for me and my day off.
Live and let live is way easier when you follow the rules.
Thank you! I bow to what you have said.
Seems like you’re late for work a lot...
Some guy on the internet Reasons stated above.
Some guy on the internet yeah you would be too if people were always walking where you were driving!
The only people saying "live and let live" here are pedestrians trying to smooth the problem and justify their behavior.
In America, the bike lanes are painted on the road. So if you’re walking in a bike lane in America, you’re walking in the road. Which is weird. Especially because of how big our roads and sidewalks are, there isn’t really a good excuse for walking in the road because of how much space you’re already given. And it’s not as common to see people walking at all, at least where I live. Everyone’s driving. I actually feel less safe riding a bike or walking somewhere than I do driving a car. Because with cars, you have the power and you can do damage. But without a car, you’re powerless and vulnerable. It’s pretty different from where you are. I think I would rather live where you are.
Exactly, I only walk in the road/bike lane for the sake of being nice to others walking but that's it. I get so scared when I walk in sidewalks, I feel so powerless and Id hate to be riding a bike since its closer to the cars
In my state*, roads and city layouts are much different city to city and state to state.
Christina Tanner my neck of the usa is the same. Many bike lanes are on the sides of roads. But runners take up this often and usually have music and just jog on.
Big sidewalks means that cars would like to park on these.
Here in Brazil its the same thing. Actually, we have luck if there is a bike lane. And yet there are people walking on them. I really cant understand...
If I see someone unlawfully walking on a bike lane I just speed up and buzz really close to em.
*exactly*
I do the same exact thing!
That's what cars do to bikes....
I use to skid my back tyre when I get up close to make them shit their-selves but it really wears your tire out (obviously) so stopped :(
I just crash right beside them and when they apologize I go “no, this bicycle trail belongs to pedestrians to walk in… my fault.”
"sometimes I feel safe surrounded by cars..."
My explanation:
Even if you are right, you'll be wrong and judged by others. Thats because now you are not considered anymore the "weak" like you was when surrounded by cars (the strong ones)
Example: Car (strong) - bike/motorcicle (weak)
Bike (strong) - pedestrians (weak)
So, now you are the one that needs to worry about them and be sorry even when you are completly right. Yep, I know, thats strange and crazy but thats how our society works, besides many other situations.
Edit1: here in Brazil, for example, its completly normal to motorcicles run (and faster than majority vehicles) beetwen the lanes and switching lanes like crazies, even if the traffic is going well. Unfortunately, sometimes car owners just can't notice from where or when a motorcicle can sunddely appears and accidents happen. However, even being right, some will try to beat you or kick your rear view just because you are the big one (strong) compared to them (weak). So many people feel that you are the one that should worry while the other can just receive a free pass to do whatever they want. Thats completly wrong in my opnion because not just one side , but both should be listen and care of it other.
A good example of it:
th-cam.com/video/zR4Okh23Zlo/w-d-xo.html
Be safe :)
That's the annoying thing. Car drivers are all 'use the bike lanes!' and when we do, pedestrians walk in them, cars park in them. So what are we supposed to do? We can't win.
Here in california bike lanes are fully available and clear. Nobody walks in them no cars are parked in them. I know this because i bike. Yet when i'm driving there's still retards on bikes that manage to get onto the STREET.
kellyanimegirl oh yes i hate that when they park, there is a spot where almost every time a guy has parked his same golf....i need to stop get of my bike go around it and continue....So annoying
Yeah there are definitely people parking in bike lanes which defeats the whole purpose. Even in California so just for TH-cam must be living in a part of it that is an exception
Here in Poland people rarely use roads for biking and only ride on sidewalk even tho there isn't a bike lane. They never ride on the road if there is a bike lane next to the sidewalk.
Omid I've never seen that in LA
You don't see people walking in the roads with the cars and trucks, so it shouldn't be any different for bike lanes.
Exaclty!
And we don’t see people biking on the pedestrian walk either.
Agreed. Though I will say death and injury is an effective reason for people to stay off the road (though not all the time).
Yes I see.
@@philipauken5391 Yes I see cyclists riding on the sidewalk.
Seeing pedestrians walk on bike lanes triggers me so much, especially when the sidewalk is just one step to the side, but these ignoramuses are just asking themselves for an accident since they don't give a shit about bikes being right behind them...
Congratulations mate. Very good videos and Lisbon seems a dream compared with 10 years ago. I hope the cycle lanes can expand all over Portugal especially near the seaside. Parabéns
You are not alone! I rang my bell to let people up ahead know I was coming.. then got scolded for ‘thinking the path belonged to me’. Weeks later I didn’t ring my bell and instead slowed right down to pass on the left, and guess what, got scolded for not ringing my bell. CAN’T WIN!
Ring your bell, every time. When they try to scold you, at least you have two things on your side, you were being polite and letting them know you were incoming and it is the bike path, it is for anyone riding a pedal bike.
Ring your bell and while they get mad keep ringing your bell and cycling off lol
@Thelondonbadger Unless they come from Mars 👽👽👽👽👽👾👾👾👾👽👽👽👽👾👾👾👾
My front brake is really loud so when there's someone blocking the bike lane I slam on it and it makes the most terrifying sound ever so they get out of the way immidietly. Even works with people who have headphones in.
@Beep the Sheep yes, the bell is like a car horn, it means get out of the way asshole, you're in the wrong lane. So when the pedestrians are going 6 wide and occupying the bike lane you should ring the bell and not dismount.
They should be treated the same as a normal road, no one walks in the middle of the road
Exactly!
You haven't been to New Orleans apparently...
You haven’t been to my country. Running on the road is the norm
dragodragon 2003 those bike paths look softer than the side walk. This guy only had shakey video when he drove on the lane that was similar to the sidewalk. Bikers need to just stop complaining
except, it's not a road
all in all you were very courteous to pedestrians when going by, I usually ring my bell a lot more and usually yell (both from a distance and so they can hear me, NOT screaming lol) to move out of the way. Very good video mate, love your content!
I am from lisbon and i totally agree with you. People look at bike lanes and they be like: this is so cool, lets walk on this! I never walk on the bike lanes but people that walk on them kinda disgust me because walking on bike lanes is like walking on the road but its a road for bikes. People don't respect the cyclists
This seems like a pretty universal problem in areas with designated Bike lanes. Its a nightmare in New York city whenever you are trying to ride your bike in central park with the amount of pedestrians in the bike lanes. And then whenever you swerve to avoid them or almost hit them, they always look at you like your the one in the wrong even though you literally just swerved to miss them in the middle of the fucking BIKE PATH!!
In Singapore, its everybody else fault except pedestrians. Pedestrians worked with government bodies, setup hate groups to ban bicycles, escooters and everything else on the pavement.
tankmaster1018 no problem anywhere in Denmark :)
tankmaster1018 at my country bike lanes are rare and completely isolated without sidewalk nor road and doesnt lead to anywhere it's like just used for exercise work out and races for cyclists
come to the netherlands! we are made for this
I've been and cycled for real.
also here in Denmark we love cycling
Dacht precies t zelfde
G E K O L O N I S E E R D
Huts
What bicycle is that? I like the shifters
Shimano shifters
Sim, Miguel, tens razão. Eu sou tolerante relativamente àquela malta que vai correr para as ciclovias - embora eu tenha a noção de que é perigoso, porque pode surgir um terceiro elemento ou imprevisto entre ambos na pior altura e provocar um acidente -, mas só até ao ponto em que os peões percebam que a prioridade nas ciclovias é dos ciclistas; isto já evoluiu para alguns acharem que nós é que temos de ter atenção a eles, desviarmo-nos deles, pararmos e tudo fazermos para eles agirem como bem entendem e para isso, não contem comigo. Ontem, por exemplo, quase provocaram dois acidentes em menos de 1 minuto. Primeiro, salta-me um a correr numa curva sem visibilidade, na ciclovia. Por uma questão de centésimos de segundo não ficávamos abraçados no chão. Menos de um minuto depois cruzo-me com outro vindo de frente que, circulando eu à direita, tendo parado de pedalar, tendo-me tornado visível e detectável por todos os meios há 100 metros atrás, não se desvia. Acaba por se desviar já à minha frente, tropeça no pino separador de sentidos na ciclovia (que também deve ter achado que devia desviar-se dele) e quase acaba em cima de mim. Isto para não mencionar que o único acidente que tive até hoje aconteceu numa ciclovia, patrocinado por um grupo de peões de costas para o trânsito; infelizmente, tenho de mencionar que o grupo vinha na conversa com...um ciclista!...holandês! Que achou tudo aquilo naturalíssimo.
I am guilty of walking on bike lanes. Now I am aware of how annoying/dangerous this situation can be for a cyclist. Thank you for the education.
Ahah you're welcome!
Caio Vinicius Grigio Fucking dumbass...
Hanzo Scatter Arrow they said that they’re aware so they’re probably not gonna do it so don’t be rude
Brooke Allen hes a Overwatch player. He was toxic person before he fell out the womb.
Especially since he seems like a hanzo main.
Feeling ABSOLUTELY with you. Same over here in germany.
My thoughts in this situations are akwardly similar to yours (thinking about respect, attention and intentions.
"Chain right way" ... (german biker phrase for good luck/success)
Ahaha thank you for your energy!
DomiNationsTipps i am from Germany too 💯% true
Und dann immer diese fucking Rentner die einen dann dumm anschauen/anmeckern, wenn man an ihnen vorbeifährt, obwohl SIE auf dem falschen Weg sind. Könnte ich kotzen
Ich persönlich hatte kaum bis gar keine solche Probleme... ich kann mir gut vorstellen, dass es von Stadt zu Stadt unterschiedlich ist
Deswegen hab ich ne Mopedhupe am MTB damit, wenn ich andere "Anklingel" und die nicht hören, einfach Anhupe :D
Fdc isto acontece-me imenso. E exatamente na rota por onde filmaste. Bom vídeo, keep it up
whenever I see that I simply pedal as hard as I possibly can, so that the pedestrian feels like it's dangerous to walk into a bike lane or just use it. Its the same principle as pedestrians walking on a road just because :). I know it's not the nicest thing to do but I can't stand having to slow down all the time for no good reason..
90% raging about this problem and 5% talking about their own country while the other 5% are people from the Netherlands just chilling because we don't have that problem lol
Jeon Jungayday haha jupp
Jeon Jungayday same from Denmark here
Christopher Medlin yeah, I am
Rubber Band ho boy I didn't even see that lol, yeah we'll include that x)
I've ridden in the Netherlands and the bike paths aren't that great. Maybe if you don't mind sticking to 15 km/h or under, but in Canadian cities, you would never get anywhere.
You had ought to get a truck horn on that thing.
XD
Yes Sir! Love the idea.
An "Ahooga horn".
THATS SUCH A GOOD IDEA!
Perhaps a steam train horn, that is LOUD.
Or just get a tazer and light up their asses ⛷🏂🎄🎄
It’s exactly the same in the uk I live in Leeds it’s the first time to have a separate bike lane all the time pedestrians on the bike lane even cars park on the bike lane and they wonder why you get annoyed I have always said it’s safer to ride on the road and that’s saying something
We have this problem in my town - Midwestern US. It's really frustrating because I live in a college town where entire sections of the city are closed to cars and there are enormous walking paths - yet people still walk in groups, blocking the entire narrow bike lane.
In Poland we also have a problem with pedestrians and runners on bike lanes. In addition, runners run directly on the cyclists.
Look at youtube "Biegam bo lubię - PTR #134 "
3miejski rowerzysta same in the usa
Isn't that why you have TWO(2) water bottles.....one for drinking.....and one for squirting people like that......LOL
hahahahaah NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT. NOW I AM ARMED. THANKYOU!!!!!
We don’t have bike lanes. We just ride on the shoulder.
zgaduję, że w gdańsku, bo jakoś w gdyni nie widzę problemu
I have a solution! On one handle have the bell for if there aren't many people. But if there are or they can't hear you attach an air horn.
Mixup 221 or combine the air horn with a megaphone for better effect 😅
Genius
A few years ago, I was riding in a marked dedicated cycle lane in Sydney, Australia and a parked car had its passenger door open with someone sitting there on their phone... I kicked the door closed as I passed !!!
When the Kent Street, Sydney cycle lane was first opened, City Council Rangers with loud hailer megaphones were posted at the intersection with King Street to alert pedestrians to look out for cyclists !
today cycling on a bike path I saw a grandmother teaching her granddaughter where she should be walking. it made me forget about the other pedestrians walking and running on the bike path. I have hope 🙏🏻🇧🇷
When we went on a trip to Belgium with our school, we were told that walking on bike lanes is illegal, and we got told of everytime someone did it xD
That is the case for more of the world that has a bike lane. The bike lanes are for pedal bikes only. They are a road for vehicles to travel. Just as it would be illegal to walk on the road, it would be to walk on a bike path (obviously, within reason, just like with walking along the road).
Look at all that space, and the joggers have to go on the one spot allocated for cyclists.
In this particular period, when there are too many people on the sidewalk, I quickly look around and once I make sure there are no bikes, I go to the bike lane to keep the recommended distance and try to get back to the sidewalk as soon as possible. I wish sidewalks were so deserted like the ones shown in this video! Sad to see people occupy the bike lane for no reason most of the time.
I visited Warsaw and sometimes it is really hard to tell if it's a bike lane or not.
here on Brazil is way worse. I mean people do the exact same thing but when you ask for them to get out of the bike lane , some curse at you... not all of them tho. but some do. I don't ride bikes but it's just agonizing for me to walk on the bike lane FOR BIKES. I only do walk on them when I have no choice
O negócio é que, pelo menos aqui em Niterói, dá pra deixar passar as pessoas que estão correndo ou fazendo caminhada, porque nossas calçadas são horríveis.
as I said i'm brazilian so yeah i'm sorry anyways. '-'
poxa eu moro em osasco sp e aqui nao vejo mtas desses negocio de bicicleta e eu nem ando de bicicleta mas tipo quando eu vejo normalmente tem gente andando e quando eu tava na praia grande ja vi pessoas xingarem o ciclista que pedia pra sairem, achei bem chato
Buddha Ghebbareo One word off, you know what he meant.
Same Here in México City. You ask them politely, even for them own safety and them immediately answer as rude as they can
People should know where to walk and where to ride... Cause the way is already marked.... Bike lanes is for Bikes and other things... Side Path is for walkers...
Sorry, you can't educate the sheep, right?
in Porto the bike lines are coloured red with constant symbols and warnings "bikes only", so they are actually adhered to most of the time
What's the song at the end called?
come to the Netherlands our country is literally built around bike lanes
I've been there. A paradise for cyclists.
And a nightmare for motorists! Still do not understand why you do not have to wear a motorcycle helmet there...
We have problems like this in cities too. Like at TU Delft, there are a lot of pedestrians who walk the bike lanes for students there.
Ma Broken Leg motorcycle helmet when riding a bike?
Leem on a motorcycle
If they get hit by a bike while walking there it is their own fault
Exactly. That's why I have a cow-catcher installed on the front of my bike. If they get in my way, I just fucking ram them!
@Thelondonbadger that's deep and dark but very correct
i enjoy speeding very near to people Who walk on bike lanes, they get scared as shit, my little payback i need those gigles for all the incomodity, break use and dodging clumsy disrespectful people
Doesnt mean im going to not snatch your scrawny ass right off that bike and take it
@@drewmurph2018 Seriously? Don't walk in the bike lane, you wouldn't walk in a car lane, would you?
Acontece exactamente o mesmo na minha terra, foi construída uma ciclovia onde SÓ andam pedestres, inclusive a malta das bicicletas diz que prefere a estrada porque é mais seguro...
Great video! I'll certainly respect bike lanes more now. It kind of reminds me of Casey Neistadts classic video of bike lanes in New York. Good one!
I love the sound that the little bell makes! Its so cute!
I dont feel worried about the runners, they run in a average speed and sometimes they let you overtake easy, the people really piss me off are the pedestrians that are walking with dogs or touristing and block the entire lane
I'm worried when runners jump to one side out of nowhere while listening music.
Just run them over, next time they´ll be aware of the danger! xD
Raptor_FPV 😂😂
In Australia, cycle paths are marked to identify them as bicycle only (no pedestrian way) or shared bicycle / pedestrian way (and showing a solid white dividing line and direction of travel arrows). However, it is always the responsibility of the faster moving device to give way to pedestrians (including children and animals).
It’s simple, start giving people fines for walking in the bike lane when it’s occupied by a biking person, there’s cyclist cops already so you might as well.
Great video, and I appreciate that you acknowledge the times when pedestrians are forced into your lane.
I also don't think you saying you feel safer between cars is crazy. Cars have rules they are set to follow, therefore it is much more predictable in terms of what they will do. Granted there's always the few.
While with peds, if you ring the bell often times they will jump, and rush to some side without even knowing where you're at, potentially causing a crash. Too often they move into your assumed path (I try my best to stick to the left when overtaking) forcing you to slow down, and /or veer into traffic. With time people will hopefully get more accustomed to the unspoken rules of bike paths, and cycling itself.
Personally ive stopped calling "on your left" or"on your right" or anything similar until i am passing them cause it is sadly the safer option. Ive seen too many people when i for instance call that i am passing on the left immidiatly turn to the left and stop and face me. its like Jesus idiot, you WANT to get slammed into?
thats why I just do not ring anymore its more predictable what they will do without knowing that I am there.^^
no but for real I mostly only ring when I am out of the city (like next to a road u know)
cause it is fucking obvius what they are going to do.
Edit: Most people don't even recognize me when I ring, so I just speed by
it's psychological. People go where they see a (painted) path even if it's not the best for them (longest, less safe, etc). Only way to change this thinking is by having more bikes on bike lanes.
then why don't people walk on empty roads?
Because there are cars on the roads. But Mario is right. People follow a painted line.
HAHAHA
People who do that are dumb you wouldn't catch me walking in the bike lane because of the lines
artiew87
Guess the name "bike lane" isn't self explanatory.
Same here in The Netherlands where I often feel more safe on the road then on the crowded cycle lanes where you have to share the limited width with pedestrian, elderly couples on ebikes, (electric) wheelchairs etc..
In Canada or at least in Quebec where I live bike lanes are either painted on in the road so no walks on it cause it’s like walking in the street, or the bike path that’s next to a street on pavement surrounded by grass has a side walk right next to it so no one walks on the bike path
I know it's completely irrelevant to the point of the video but Lisbon looks really nice.
Nope. It's a shithole XD
That is totally relevant ;)
Just change the color of the biking lane to green or red, something different than the pedestrian paths and carlanes and you'll have a lot less people walking on the bicycle path. Problem solved, greetings from Amsterdam.
They know but don't do it. I loved cycling in Amsterdam, thank you!
Green bike lanes DON'T work! All of the bike lanes are painted green in Seville, Spain and pedestrians think it's the way to Emerald City or something xD.
Tijn Elbers I live in Brazil, our bike lanes are orange and its still shit
In Málaga (Spain) some bike lines are like orange but people don't give a fuck. Sadly, I think is an education problem with no exceptions, young and old people =/
In Philippines, we have a bike lane but a lot of vehicles park their car on bike lane. We have suppose to ride in the middle of the road with a lot of truck.
In London, we have a few new bike lanes due to Covid and more people wanting to cycle rather than use public transport and I have noticed that a lot of joggers have started using them, many of them with headphones on.
Based on my experiences I would rather be lane splitting threw cars than on a bike path with clueless pedestrians.
3:09 *that's a "thicc" bike*
dammit I was about to comment that!
In Switzerland, the bikes lanes are on the road so it's safe even though sometimes they have the tendency to drive a bit on it.
Come to the UK, in my city we have two type of bike lines
One next to the road where most cars just park on or sidewalks where bikes are allowed.
In the netherlands this problem is nowhere to be seen. People *know* where to walk and know where to bike since everyone does it
Bassarazzi ' nee het probleem is er ook in Nederland, in iedergeval waar ik woon wel
In de duinen van Schoorl hebben we het nog steeds hoor.
Bij ons haalt iedereen gwn netjes zijn fietsdiploma
Jillie Jelly dat heeft niks met irritante voetgangers te maken
SjapoGT En krijgen we t 100x in ons hoofd gestampt dat je op de stoep moet lopen*
in mass, just outside of boston, i have hit 13 people that have not looked and just walked out right into the middle of the bike lane about 2-3 feet in front of me, there are many close calls as well. cars also dont respect bicycles, i have been run off the road 4 times now, broke my left wrist twice cause of them. i have also been hit by many cars as people are just stupid. every time someone tries to sue me, i win. 4 tries, all without a lawyer in small claims, 4 wins. the magic of gopro footage.
I think you need to think about another form of transport. Actually thinking about it, please don't. You would be the most dangerous and deadly car driver ever. You sir are a nightmare on two wheels.
Elliot Flowers nah m8, i just got really unlucky with awful drivers.
Elliot Flowers i wish i was kidding but the people i hit walked out from in front of busses and other large vehicles right into the side of me or into my path about a foot ahead and stopped. i have never been in a car accident (driving for a long time, almost 18 years 10-50 miles a day average).
Elliot Flowers the greatest thing is that i get it all on gopro
If you're hitting pedestrians with your bike then you're a menace. I'm sure that you don't see the irony about cyclists hitting pedestrians and it's not YOUR fault and if a car is too close t you when you're doing the exact thing that you complain about it's once again somebody else's fault.
same problem in my homecountry, estonia (living and cycling in lisbon at the moment which is why someone introduced me to your channel), pedestrians just aren't used to bike lanes and think they can walk freely everywhere there's no cars. if a person doesn't cycle themself it probably even doesn't cross their mind to check if they are on a bike lane
I went to Tallinn some weeks ago. I love it ! :)
Wow you guys have beautiful bike lanes,
Greetings from Hungary! :)
Can i just say that I envy your great country for having bike lanes. Here in the philippines bike lanes are a joke they dont even have it everywhere. You go out on the road with your bike, you have to pray you Hail Mary's that you dont end up beneath a bus or reversed by a jeepney (btw that really happened. Bless his soul.)
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Yeah bro u are right. In my city, Sofia, there are these bike lanes u know on the street and it's like a third lane not for cars but for bikes. There are always people and when u ask them to move away the star to yell. Or when I want to go on these ramps so I dont have to get off the bike, again there are people. You ask them the start yellin
Enjoying this content, I'm seeing the popularity of bike lanes in UK too, everybody wants to enjoy them, they instinctively feel great 🥰 Runners like them because they're like tracks in an athletic stadium. I'd love to know your opinion on where Lisbon has done an excellent job for cycle infrastructure, and what needs more work?
Song at the end?
BIKE LANEEEEE DONT STAND ON THE BIKE LANEEEE
YOU"RE IN THE BIKEEEEEE LANEEEEE, GET OUT OF THE BIKEEEE LANEEEEEEEE (that dude was awesome)
1,5 k dislike from pedestrians
*pedestrians walking on cycle roads.
Fuck'em
@Moiai Mermusique well.. if you dont want to educate yourself why would anyone else bother to??
@Moiai Mermusique Because you’d probably start an argument if someone told you to get outta the bike lane and no one really wants that
Isto é muito verdade, em alguns sítios de Lisboa com ciclovias, as pessoas preferem andar nas ciclovias em vez de andarem no pavimento normal e quando pedimos com licença, algumas pessoas até ficam ofendidas e dizem que as vamos atropelar sabendo que elas estão no sitio para as bicicletas 🤦🏽♂️
We have the same problem. I had an accident coz a pedestrian walked (backward!) into the bike line and in order to not hit him I did an emergency stop and go over the steering wheel... Literally missed him a few centimeters and he even did not ask when I was lying on the ground if I'm ok
Maybe they're waiting for collisions to happen, and for them to have to pay for the damages caused to the bike...Police, as usual, don't care, because pedestrians walking on cycle lanes can be fined.
Nice *_fat bike_* at the end! XD
Yeah that e-hub on the rear kinda killed it for me...
João Rafael Gomes Baptista they look cool but they're really useless... Super heavy wheels and massive friction
João Rafael Gomes Baptista i think there meant for snow but they don’t use it for snow
atleast fat bikes wont fall to tram lines
You are right, it's safer among cars. Since a car changes direction a lot slower, and usual the driver looks around before acting, because another car might him him. I don't feel safe on the sidewalk with pedestrians. And yes they always tend to walk on the cycle path. This gets solved when there will be more bicycles on the path, but until that time, it's very dangerous. Pedestrians can change direction without notice, or just touch the bicycle and you get broken bones.
Yeah, I agree. A car can't stop dead and move two feet to the left at a moments notice. If the cycle lane is part of the road it's not really an issue. But the bike line in the video, that looks more like a pavement to me.
In some streets of my city, we don't have sidewalk, but there's bike lane, so we just had to get use to it and share the bike lane.
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This is unrelated but the girl on the left reminded me of *Grognak the Destroyer Attorney at Law* 😩
"Let's be honest, it's a silent war for space." Never have words rung so true to how we move in our cities. Everyone wants space, it's up to city planners and council to deliver it properly.
Yeah city planners and the council in all of Portuguese cities don't know SH*t about what they are doing. Look at the way they do the bike lanes.. ridiculous. There is not even a physical barrier between road and bike lane, so what cars do? Park their car on the bike lane, what does the police do? Nothing really. I see this every day in Porto bike lanes.
I can sympathise. I was thrilled when a cycle lane was introduced on one of the many roads I commute on every day. Unfortunately, it's unusable due to the number of pedestrians blocking the way and conveniently not hearing requests to be allowed through.
Serious question: Is it acceptable for a person in a wheel chair. To use them for exercise purposes?
Young mountain biker here, I was once out goofing off on my hard tail on a old trail (this trail was fairly wide and not really used by bikers anymore) and a old man probs 70s no joke started shouting at me because “people walk on these paths and I should not be going so fast or even on a bike for that matter” now I get not many bikers use the trail anymore but it’s still a mountain bike trail yknow and I am always very careful because I also know people do like walking on that trail but most people are respectful and move to the side (I also brake quite a bit) but this old man not only watched me go down the full descent and not move an inch but he also watched as I struggled to brake in time to not crash (bumpy descent + hard tail = some pretty ruff braking since the rear just bounces at times) pedestrians can be so disrespectful
That pain is felt.
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Yea its kinda irritating espescially since i dont have a bell, i tend to cycle on pavement or along the road. Tbh u should always consider the worst case scenarios when cycling in place with pedastrains, u shld always slow down and keep a steady pace around them, espescially with kids around, they might just dash in front of u or back off into u, u'll never know
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U should buy a bell
Cyclists should watch for oedestrians
Kinda defeats the whole purpose there.
Yeah I just kinda compliment them because I also don’t have a bell I’d be like hey Selene Gomez excuse me!
This is quite different in the Netherlands, nearly everyone walks on the sidewalk unless it’s otherwise not possible
In my city (Sorocaba/Brazil), our sidewalks are awful. When we got bike lanes, everybody thought they were *new* sidewalks, and did exactly the same as in this video. There are actually 5 pedestrians for every cyclist using it.
Cycle faster. Problem solved
I will ahah
One Cyclist in Lisbon In Romania we have the same damn problem, so much so that now i don't give a fuck anymore and just speed up while ringing like mad crazy to warn they are gonna get hit.
In Vancouver, we've got the exact opposite problem - _bikes_ keep straying into the _pedestrian_ lane.
ahahah that would be a dream here
One Cyclist in Lisbon I've already been seriously hit by a stupid cyclist on a sidewalk once. You have nothing to complain about unless pedestrians start posing any danger to you
EGL24Xx Yes he can complain because people are walking on BIKE LANES made for BIKES
as a brazillian, in the town i live there are very few cycling lanes and the sidewalks suck so i do understand when people use then to walk, but when the sidewalks are perfectly fine whats the point
I wouldn't call myself an avid cyclist, I only really ride on paths designated as mixture bike/pedestrian paths for exercise and recreation. However, my favorite path is marked with paint dividing the two halves of the pavement. In the US we drive on the right side of the road and typically respect the same rules when walking/cycling on a designated path. However, on a marked path like this, it completely puzzles me when people don't stick to the right side of the path. I get that often times your area of the path gets remarkably quiet with no other foot or cycle traffic around for a while, but you should always be alert for bicycle either coming from behind or in front and be ready to jig to the right if you're not allowing them any room to get by between you and your friend. Even when walking alone... don't walk directly down the middle! The cyclist has no clue which way you're going to move when you do notice them. And if you see a cyclist coming head-on, for god's sake move over well in advanced! The cyclist seriously shouldn't have to ring their bell at you! You see them, they see you, MOVE!!!
At least you guyz have bike lanes,
Here in India, people don't respect the roads, sidewalks are barely walkable.
Btw love for the video
Yes you are right. I have a huge respect for those who live in underdeveloped countries. They have a much harder life. Thank you Prashant!
Dude it's not ""Underdeveloped""
Sounds Rude 😅😅..
It needs reform..
People need to realise it is there for them,for their use.
Well I wasn't thinking being rude when I chosed that word, I'm using what they call here when refering to poor countries.
Thanks okay no one's complaining,,
Dude... We're om the same side 😉😊😊
:)
In India we don't even have bicycle lanes the side of the road fuked up there are shops open on the footpath it is even hard to drive a car because people cross the road like crazy
You're better off getting a dingy and rowing through the rivers of toxic sludge.
As an indian if theres too much discipline i feel home sick
DK Pedestrians and cyclists even have to avoid the piles of shit on thr streets in India, it's awful.
The pedestrians are the same thing where I live, but the roads and bike lanes... oof.
The same in San Diego! Cars are more predictable. I like predictable too. It isn't weird to feel like they're safer!