Hi folks, thanks so much for all the interest and comments on this video! I appreciate the opinions, even if I disagree with some of your takes. Bike and bike lanes surely seem to be one of the more divisive issues around road use and road safety in general. Also, I have a newer channel with more and better bike ride content. If you are interested check out: th-cam.com/channels/Oe0SXg_eWh0W_dYnbmHDIQ.html
Always fun to see assholes like this post something the theythink will get positive comments of people expressing sympathy for what they have to go though, but quickly finding out that like every other aspect of your life, you are AL ALONE in this. Again...like every other career, you are failing badly at this TH-cam attempt.
As a Dutchman, all I can say is crap infrastructure provokes crap driving. Good Infrastructure is designed in such a way that all forms of traffic can coexist happily. The one in the video appears to be designed in such a way that it's not only easy but sometimes even necessary to inconvenience one and other.
I have no idea why our roads are like this. I'm hoping to take an internship or maybe even work in Amsterdam to try to learn from the best so I can try to make my home a better place.
Yeah other countries are a culture shock in that way. Like Denmark for a example lol. A fluid means of transportation…? What?! No! Certainly that’s not possible.
I just cycled 100km thru the city today and I have to say that taking your time will reduce the chances of an accident. I experienced all the same situations you did and patience made my ride enjoyable.
At least you guys admit to speeding. Let's be fair and in that regard cycling was designed for recreation, getting from A to B at leisure. What we're seeing from many today is full blown racing speeds designed for speed tacks with absolute disregard for other users.
Wow, bravo on your long ride! It must have taken some time if you were going that slow. I have places to go, and people to see. I'm out here trying to stay alive and live my life, not have leisurely rides. So I don't really need you to tell me how to ride. I have never had an accident, with one exception that was caused by a bike failure, but you do you my friend!
I'm about halfway with you on this. It looks like some higher-speed bike infrastructure might be nice in some parts, but the reality of good urban cycling infrastructure - like good urban car infrastructure - is that it is *not* particularly high speed. On city streets in the world's most bicycle-friendly cities averaging 10-12mph is about all you could hope for. Which is fine, because you probably don't want to show up for work sweating buckets after riding 20mph for half an hour or more...
That's interesting, thanks. For the record I was rarely, if ever, doing anywhere near 20 mph in this video. Not sure what speed it looks like I'm going, though the GoPro wide angle might make it look faster. I probably aim for about 20 kph (around 15 mph) on city streets. I go faster if I can and want to, but the point is when a car or other obstruction pulls out and blocks a cyclist, it doesn't really matter whether you're going 10 or 20. The point is the design should discourage it and the driver culture should get smarter.
This is completely untrue, Vancouver is the most bike friendly city in Canada and I average 30+ km/h on most bike lanes, with some even being safe at 60 km/h.
@@benfsinger you know that 15mph is about seven times faster than walking, right? Did I see you use the pavement somewhere? The commenter wanted even faster cycling infrastructure. Why not the same for cars and trucks? You constantly observed problems during your ride which was great, but unlike when driving a not much quicker in traffic, car, how often did you stop pedalling and racing toward them orincrease risks by swerving around them without slowing down?
@Johan Wittens some of our bike lanes are car lanes blocked off solely for bike/pev usage, so higher speeds are completely reasonable and there is tons of passing distance.
There is no room at all to pass, even if the slow cyclist sticks to the right as close as they can. I've ridden these lanes a few times and find it safer to ride with traffic if it's moving.
Argh where that cyclist cut off the pedestrian!! That intersection is horrible for it. Three cyclists did the same last week and actually made a poor women twirl on the spot as they went both sides of her & fast. Just bad manners & dangerous.
the cyclists around U of T are horrible, especially by Varsity Stadium and that Tim's. Absolutely no respect for pedestrians. The guy who posted the video seems to be a decent guy, but he's far in the minority.
Why thanks. I do my best! There are poor cyclists out there for sure. It's not cool. At the same time I try to keep in mind that even a terrible cyclist is unlikely to cause serious injury or death to anyone other than themselves. Better etiquette will come with more normalization of cycling as a mode of safe transport. Until then, while cyclist are considered part of some "fringe" and feel unsafe and marginalized on the road, bad behaviour will be more common.
he didnt cut off anyone lol, he passed like 3s before and wait for the pedestrian at the next crossing to cross. yea he shouldn't cross a red but he didn't endanger anyone. On lights like this, if there are no pedestrians crossing I usually go aswell bcos there's 0 danger to it and imo even safer than stopping
Its a car centric city w Uber delivery. Wtf do you want? Have you ever ordered delivery? Its not: youre blocking the bike lane. Its: let's share the space. Pyscho
@@cmmartti share the road and go around. It's also illegal to blow thru stop signs and red lights yet cyclist do all the time. No one is parking their delivery truck far away, to delivery the food to your favorite restaurants. Until the city plans better, just have to share.
Splitting lanes, weaving in and out of bike lane then regular traffic lane, speeding past people who are moving to “slow” for you then having the gall to get angry at practically everyone else on the road-pedestrian or motorist or biker. Great job, mate!!
Your comment is spot on. I was about to add a similar comment, but you beat me to it. This typical behaviour of an entitled cyclist is an accident waiting to happen.
It’s true they are far from perfect but honestly a welcome improvement. Going slower when you are in a shared bike with riders of different skill levels and experience may prevent you crashing into a slower commuter . High park , the Don or Humber accommodate faster speeds and have space to maneuver .
Thanks for the comment! I agree, I am happy about the lanes too. Caution is required, though I always try to give a wide berth to slower riders. Just curious how this video came to you because it's taken off in the past week, and I'm not sure why! I actually have a newer channel at bit.ly/3jWvGmU if you care to check it out! Tx!
bmorepanic, yeah, he treated that space as his own personal and don't dare cross it or go slow. Forced that old lady off her bike and onto the kerb. In cases where bit suited him, he swerved out into the road to pass but in that case it was "get the eff out of the way, I'm coming through regardless." In many cases he really came across as an arsehole.
Bike lanes are great until there are knobs like you bombing around, you dont see the dutch riding like you in a city, you'll bring speed limits and more restriction to the lanes.
@@KekusMagnus Actually I have lived in Bologna for several years, commuting daily within the city center on my bike. This guy is in some great rush, making things less pleasant for others. Just watch him. Just listen to him. The problem with the Net is silly comments like this one from people who are mean-spirited.
Why do bikers think they should be able to ride uninterrupted? If I drive a car I sometimes end up behind other cars and I don’t start honking my horn and start screaming screaming. fing rude this guy. Yes I am a biker myself have done some really long rides, 4670 km and 5200 km so I think I know what I am talking about.
Congrats on your long rides. Very impressive. I don't have an expectation to ride uninterrupted, but I do have an expectation that cars don't cut me off of illegally park or drive in bike lanes. I hope that helps!
Get-there-it-is effects pilots and city slicker Karen cyclists, Hans. Wiki it. It is a big part of road rage, along with velocitized drivers terrorizing cyclists.
It's not really a commute, the video is a collection of different major bike lanes across the city. If one were commuting in Toronto I would recommend taking side streets and staying off main roads as much as possible.
You think this is bad, try Chicago's Old Town district at 3pm. You can't even use the bike lanes due to the swarm of uber drivers clogging the lanes while waiting for their pickup. Also, pedestrians trying to reach those ubers fling themselves into traffic.
You appear to be a little impatient and somewhat judgemental of other road users. Perhaps a bit more consideration for others and less on how quickly you can complete your journey.
@@benfsinger But the white car waiting to make a left turn at 4:32 did nothing wrong, right? He can't see if he waits further back and you got around him just fine. Don't take too much stress and ride safe. You are right about cars stopping/parking on bike lanes just because they are lazy to walk a couple of meters. They shouldn't do that.
Unfortunately, the North America never solve the problem of the bad bicycle infraestructure. A good bicycle infraestructure is way more than just painting the street with green.
@@matthewgrice5411 Not at all. Calling for much needed infrastructure improvement is great but what is not good and reckless is going 15mph on infrastructure that cant accommodate that speed, creating a dangerous situation for other cyclists and himself. Hope you understand.
Our protected bike lanes don't really facilitate efficient traversal. Proof is in how often you had to leave them/how many obstacles there were. I personally avoid cycling on Bloor/Danforth and leave it to the less confident. They will have a better experience if im not there too.
@@benfsinger I use Dupont/Davenport west of the Don. Dundas (getting worse) or Cosburn east of it. Yes, it can be out of the way, but its faster since you don't need to slow down as much.
@@cycleyyz you'd have to be pretty fast to make it worthwhile for most of my rides! But I know you are! Also, Dundas is being closed for all of October at Howard Park, so that's gonna make things fun!
In some places the cars had no choice but to be blocking the cycle lane whilst they waited to see if it was safe to proceed out of the side road or carpark etc. Do cyclists not have to stop when crossing a side road that isn't controlled by traffic lights?
That wouldn't make any sense, as travelling on a major road you cross dozens if not hundreds of side roads. Some have signals, and there I stop. Cars turning out from the side roads have the obligation to see if it's safe to turn without obstructing lanes, bike or otherwise. It can be tricky at times due to parked vehicles, and we should be understanding, but for the most part car drivers pay little attention to cyclists and pull out, cutting us off in the process. When one SUV edged out and blocked the bike lane, I urged him to go ahead, because I could see the road was clear.. It might sound "rude" but there is no other way to communicate when on a bike and dealing with closed-windowed, oversized vehicles.
I noticed that you zip in and out of your bike lane very quickly and I really really doubt that you use any hand signals at all. Unfortunately, you seem to be one of the self entitled people that because you ride a bike you deserve to go unimpeded anyway you want. Unfortunately there are other people that live and drive in the same areas and you need to be aware of them because you were the one that’s going to die if you get hit
I am in san jose california. I cycle a lot daily. I commute. They have expressway 45-50mph. I love it. I dont have to deal with pedestrians pets, other cyclists (rarely), parked cars, bike lanes, protected bike lanes, etc. I only have to deal with one thing: fast moving cars, in and out of freeway overpass or underpass (they call it on ramp and off ramp). Do you have any solutions to on ramp off ramp situations? I can ride minimum 15mph max 20mph flat surface on these expressways. These expressways have few traffic lights.
Most people will be too passive or shy to call out a driver in the bike lane. I say if this guy wants to do it, he probably speaks for many frustrated cyclists and will hopefully help correct some of that behaviour to avoid future accidents. All fun and games until someone gets killed.
The problem with that is the rules often don't consider anything that's not a car even as an afterthought. Where I live, there are plenty of stop signs in places where you'd only ever stop a bike if you have a death wish, and red lights that will happily stay red all day if there isn't a car in front of them. I routinely *have* to run red lights even on my motorcycle because I literally couldn't get anywhere otherwise. If everyone should follow the rules, the rules need to work for everyone.
@@blooptastic Thats all I´m saying man. If it was me crossing the street would pissed off with this idiot. Imagine having a crash with your beloved bike because some idiot is busy yelling at others with total disregard about traffic? I do talk and confront drivers but I live by example too.
I used to be a city bicyclist, and somehow lived through the period. Way too dangerous. Now, if I ride in the city at all, it's a mile or two on back streets or alleys.
I used to commute by bike in Boston between '99-'13, long before there was a single bike lane in the city. I got doored about 4-5 times, and went over the hood of a turning car twice. But luckily no serious injuries during that period. I have no idea how I survived lol.
I feel for the bikers when people block the lane, but like what happened in the video I can’t stand those bikers that run the lights or almost hit pedestrians crossing the crosswalk on a light
Agreed, both are bad. I would say though that the chances of those cyclists actually killing someone are very low to nil. I've heard of it but it's extremely rare. Cars are much deadlier. It's just physics, but I don't condone rude or dangerous cycling either!
I think you could be more forgiving. I’m not saying you’re in the wrong, but for example cars edging out. They might have been stuck there for a long time and just need to eventually edge more and more into the traffic, inadvertently getting into the bike lane. I’m from a country where there isn’t much bike lanes, so I’m not sure either. Just my opinion
If you think this guy could be more forgiving you should check out Zero Enigma on TH-cam. Don’t even want to imagine what your comments would be like on his videos hahaha
You have to edge to see what’s coming. Often you’ll see an opening, move up and a car pops out from behind an obstacle and then you have to stop and end up in a bike or pedestrian lane.
@@girshin If you have to edge into bike lanes and sidewalks, then the streets are designed poorly. Visibility should good enough to be behind the crosswalk.
@@heroslippy6666 That's nice, so what do you think us drivers should do? Maybe we could get out of our vehicles and start building a new road right then and there just for us. We have to edge out or we can't see what's coming including a cyclist.
@@stinkyham9050 Complain to your city that the roads are poorly designed. Parts of the world have road safety figured out. The US is stuck in a mindset thinking that car accidents are a part of life and that nothing can be done. Places in Europe have gotten this figured out decades ago. Roads can be built safer. Visibility can be improved around corners. Physical obstruction may have to be removed, but it can be done.
I would say 4:31 is kind of a lose lose situation. If the car had stopped further to the right it would have blocked the sidewalk, and if it had stopped any further yet to the right, the driver wouldn't have been able to see oncoming traffic well enough, thus potentially resulting in the white car getting t-boned by another car. Point being it looks like a shit spot to have to pull out of.
@1:28, the car didn't cut you off, it was making a left turn as the green was ending to clear the intersection. However, all the more reason we need fully separate bike infrastructure, Toronto is so bad, forcing bikes to contend with cars as a second class form of transit on the same road network.
If you want to act like a motorist who think bikes don't belong in the street, why don't you just ride in the street with the cars and leave normal bicyclists in the bike lanes alone? I am a biker and folks like you give bikers ovefrall a bad name. Your video just gives power to motorists who don't even want the city spending money on bike lanes and shrinking their precious road ways. ..or you could just relax and look at Not Just Bikes and see how it is really done. True. our bike infrastructure is not a good as the Netherlands but you don't have to act this way. What is your hurry?
The streber should be designed in such a way that it is more convenient NOT to stop in the bike lane. In the meantime, park on a side street or alleyway if there’s one within a a couple hundred feet or so.
@@hendman4083 I've worked as a delivery driver in an urban environment it's very hard you need to meet certain standards of x amount of packets per hour and driving around finding a parking space wouldn't work. I know it might be annoying but being a delivery driver can be very tough. Often you literally don't have a choice. Urban city design needs to think more for delivery drivers it's just gonna be increasing drivers are not at fault. It's the company and city design
@@ultrablue7018 It still doesn't mean traffic laws don't apply to you. You cannot pick what law is convenient for you, and what law isn't. When delivery drivers start breaking the law to meet their quotum, their employers will never get the message that the set goals are impossible to reach.
THAT YELLOW VEST IS UNSIGHTLY, BUT SAVES YOUR ASS. I THOUGHT FOLKS WITH KEYS ON A CHAIN TO THEIR PANTS WERE SIMPLE, UNTIL I LEFT MY KEYS IN THE DOOR MULTIPLE TIMES.
@@benfsinger THAT YELLOW VEST MAKES CYCLISTS SEEN, BUT CYCLISTS PREFER BLACK CLOTHES, FOR THE EXACT SAME REASON PEDESTRIANS WEAR DARK CLOTHES AT NIGHT. PLAIN SUICIDAL. ONE CLOSE CALL CURED ME FAST.
@@daifromwales9543 HERE IN CANADA, CYCLING FOLKS WEAR DARK CLOTHES AND BLOW STOP SIGNS. THE DRIVER PARKED NEAR A CORNER, LOOKS AND SEES NO CYCLIST. THEN THE CYLIST BLOWS A STOP SIGN AT HIGH SPEED AND COMES INTO DOORING RANGE IN ONE HALF A SECOND. CARS NEAR CORNERS NEED TIME TO REACT. IF THE CYCLISTS STOPPED, THE VELOCITY IS SLOWER AND EASIER TO SPOT. BLIND SPOTS LIKE CORNERS ARE NOTORIOUS FOR DOORING. CYCLISTS WHO GET DOORED ARE RARELY VISIBLE. THE DRIVERS WEAR SUNGLASSES. OK DAIF?
Our issue here is the bike lines being directly to the LEFT of parked cars…I can’t even hardly utilize the lane without fear of someone just pulling out or my ass getting doored haha but if I ride in the car lane…I get yelled at…
Has anyone opened a car door to you yet? As in leeds Britain they don't all the time. It's becoming Saver to ride in traffic than riding the cycle lane. Plus pedestrians into it all the time.
@@brammeijboom1873 It is undeniable that London is huge, hilly and windy. Especially hilly and windy. My most obvious cycling destination is one mile away. Uphill all the way. The pleasure is not worth the pain. OK I enjoy my veteran cycle in the local park, although I can never trust oncoming cyclists to pass on the left, which leads to some scary confrontations. And I cannot carry my arthritic mother in law to church on a bicycle. Work is 7 miles (10k), over hills and against the sun on the way in, and against sun and wind going home. Incidentally cycling (like most heavy exercise) is bad for your teeth and gums!
They did and came upp with this crap! It isn't a joke, they really looked ad the Netherlands and Copenhagen, but clearly didn't understand how to do it!
If you're cycling in a city with bike lanes, one thing you have no right to complain about is slower cyclists. Commuters need to get places without being drenched in sweat. Heck commuter bikes are designed to actively discourage speed and increase comfort. In downtown Montreal, during rush hour, it isn't unusual to be following 10 other very slow cyclists as you're going home. Bike lanes, frankly, need speed limits during peak use hours. But what you can complain about is that your bike lane isn't side enough to let you pass slower cyclists.
Where did you see me complain about slower cyclists? I am mentioning that it is difficult to pass them in the bike lanes, so I find ways around them. I didn't complain once. People have the right to go their own speed. That said, they should be aware of their surroundings and not stop in the bike lane or obliviously wander into it without checking.
You've said it all! Passing slower cyclists!! From what I've witnessed of cyclists it' s a constant I'm faster than you race! You are not on the toure de France even though your licra bodies might suggest it! Use cycle lanes which at great cost have been installed for your safety and treat red lights like they mean something!!!!!
Cycling weasels crave death. Are you related to Gary Sowerby? Cycling weasels crave cash payouts for small traffic accidents. Do you stop at stop signs Graham? Do you have a minute to chat?
Maybe drivers can drive without using their phone, running red lights, change lane without indicating, ignoring give way lines and pulling out dangerously on to oncoming traffic. Drivers are the biggest menace on the roads not cyclists.
Have you ever thought that vehicles often cannot see if it's safe to pull out from a side road without having to pull on to the bike lane? If I'm driving and a pedestrian is on a collision course with me do I just keep up the same speed and to hell with the paperwork? No, I slow down and take evasive action. Don't bicycles have brakes these days? Priorities in order of merit: 1 Pedestrians 2 Bicycles 3 Motor vehicles
A strode is poorly designed if you have to be in the bike lane/ cross walk to see around the corner. Some places will even require certain amounts of visibility around corners.
Whenever the opportunity is forced upon me, I pass on the left when I sense a pending right hook. I'm thinking of sporting a tunic that reads "Pass behind me asshole!"
My boss moved out of the city because of this reason BIKES and laid off 19 workers that didn't want to move, but at lease people in the next town got the jobs and they are more relaxed driving around now.... STRESS
I stop and I don't see any bikes coming I try to merge onto traffic I wait to merge but than bikes come they freak out . I'm more than happy to share the road. ( bloor and Clinton)
We have some urban bike lanes in San Diego. Almost never see them being used. Here in San Diego we have these things called hills and there is this huge ball of fire in the sky that can get quite warm. A friend of mine tried to make bicycles his primary mode of transportation. When we would come over to visit he looked like he fell in a swimming pool he was so sweaty.
Not true. Here in San Diego they took one of the most popular streets for restaurants and shopping and removed all the parking and put in bike lanes that nobody uses. Businesses hated it because most people in the city are never going to go there again because they have nowhere to park. From where I live it would be nearly an hour and a half to get there by light rail and bus. It takes 16 minutes in my car. We will never have the population density that Amsterdam has and we are a much larger city. Toronto is nearly 4x the population of Amsterdam!
@@norwegianblue2017 That's exactly what I tell everyone. If you want people using bike lanes, they need to go somewhere. Its bits and pieces of bike lanes that arent connected.
When a car passes you from behind and then proceeds to turn right, cutting you off as they cross your path/turn into you. It happens a lot in North America, with right-hand traffic. Left hooks happen too in the opposite direction, usually at a light when an oncoming car makes a left without accounting for you approaching.
1:28 same thing happened to me today, almost got very seriously injured. This video shows exactly what I hate about the Toronto bike lanes. I think Yonge street should be converted into one big bike lane
Right on, dude. Just moved to Vancouver island from Main street station on the Danforth... huge change. I was a courier there for a few years, riding fixed. I took the Dan into downtown every morning... It's nice having this video to show to my partner and friends to accurately depict what an average commute was like. Good stuff, thanks (y)
Lucky you. Not sure how long you’ve been there but whatever it was that you knew is now 10x worse. Toronto is not friendly to anything that moves, even pedestrians. I was close to moving there but my wife changed her mind. I’m probably gonna move there without her. The whole GTA is a nightmare. And it seems, nobody cares.
@@carbonunit6573 oh, man... I just moved here in January hahaha not too long ago... maybe move here and send your wife pics and videos of how peaceful it is. She might change her tune ;) I dont regret it
@@thrivedru we are there all the time. We have family there. She is doing her best to make my life miserable. Hence the end of 26 yrs of marriage. BTW gas is $2.14 a litre here. What are they jacking you for gas now? Last I remember it was about 40 cents more per litre there.
@@carbonunit6573 oh, well....shit...sorry to hear..... or.... congrats on your emancipation? We're paying 2.26 per L right now.... and it's supposed to go up to 2.30.... it's insane. It costs just over 100$ to fill my little truck.
@@martinkent333 you mean on a bicycle? I’m from the Netherlands, I never saw a stop sign when on bike. The channel not just bikes made a video about it. th-cam.com/video/42oQN7fy_eM/w-d-xo.html And I don’t chat at all.
To be fair you broke a lot of rules yourself and honestly most cars barely follow normal traffic laws. Most bike laws got passed so recently they weren't even on a driving test for most drivers. They just renew their license over and over again without taking a test. I think in the USA you only have to do it once every ten years or so.
How do you approach a right turn with a bike lane? The proper HTA way is for the motorist to block off the bike lane to prevent a right hook, but cyclists have also yelled at motorists for blocking the lane...
hey man when i get my camera i will record the bike lane blockers in netherlands, u would think that the netherlands has good infrastructure for bikes but no
Compared with the bike lanes in the Netherlands yours are too narrow for a bicyclist taking over. I calculate 75 cm per bicyclist. And to ride comfortly a bicycle lane should be at least 2 meters.wide. That's almost as wide as a car lane which I estimate 2,5m . Please inform the city planners to reserve an entire car lane for bicyclists only and separate it from cars to reduce accidents.
Not sure bout taxes over there, but in the states property tax, gas tax, tax on purchase price goes to the infrastructure. Bikers had a shit fit when someone suggested taxing them. I'm sorry, but not interested in putting another lane in for bikes.
You seem to be causing more problems by swerving in and out and not caring for others who are slower than you but have every right to go at their own pace. You seem to a road rage cyclist.
@Giuliano Skywalker These cyclists wear ear buds and can't hear the bell warning of passing. Giuliano, do you stop at stop signs? Do you have time to chat?
Don't know why this was suddenly recommended to me. I just finished and liked a bunch of animated videos... Anyway, as a Dutchman this is stressful and I *know* this is leagues better than most cycling infrastructure in NA :0
All the more reason I’m against bike lanes on or near major roadways even if they’re “protected “ motorist turning or coming onto the main roadways can’t see and have to block bike lanes in order to drive onto the streets… urban planners need to get rid of the bike lanes all together and create bike trails and bike paths so that cyclists can have there own complete space free from cars and other motor vehicles having bikes on the roadways is dangerous they can’t keep up with the vehicle traffic and you can’t see bikes half the time, I ride motorcycles and cars don’t see you on a motorcycle so they definitely will not see you on a bicycle
Our small town (Vänersborg, Sweden) are making some efforts to build bikelanes here and there. Sometimes they do it according to the "Rabbit Bible" (Correct) but sometimes the efforts results in disaster. When watching the video I notice however that the Toronto bike-lane is much smaller than ours, but I see the same problem - lanes used for parking or for pedestrians or signs, posters, roll-ups/downs, flags or a great place to smash beer bottles. There was one thing in particular that made me smile in recognition - pedistrians crossing a bike-line WITHOUT looking out. If travelling (I am old and worn out) at 20-25 km/h, I can certainly kill someone who steps out in front of me. People don't cross a road like that ...
Brilliant video, I think after the fourth time seeing the hint about out.out risking getting hit by a right hook car, it's now drilled into my head to just go and pass them on their left, great video
Feel like? Sure. But I've only ever done it by accident. The risks to myself both from the collision and a rageful driver, not to mention potential legal consequences would be far too great.
@@benfsinger I lived in Ottawa for 7 years and rode a bicycle when I was there; maybe I was just bolder. I cut a pool noodle to 98 cm and mounted it protruding out the left side of my bicycle (overall very effective at enforcing passing distance, although a few vehicles hit it from time to time) and also installed an electric 10 inch vibrating bell (which usually worked much better to get attention).
I wish more people would do this rather than just moaning .Your being helpful and it's possible someone might listen and learn something .Thanks from the islands in the hebrides in Scotland .
Hey I appreciate that! I've gotten so much hate from this video (though more views than I ever do). I wonder why it's gone so much to the UK, as I live in Canada and have never biked over there. Love to some time though, Cheers from here!
When a road hog is blocking you, don’t go to his stinky backside. Take your time and go slowly around the front where they can see you clearly and give them the stinky eye - whether you are a cyclist, and even better, a walker, on crutches, or in a wheelchair. Take your time.
I'm so sorry for Canada. Most things about a good Canada are not true, Including clean cities - beaches, and forests. It's a big lie. The first time I arrived in Vancouver in 2018, I was shocked. As soon as I left the airport door, I saw tissue, disposable glasses, and other garbage left in the city. The further I went, the more I saw them. Before I moved to Canada, I lived in Georgia, Armenia, Turkey, Serbia, The United States, and for a short time in Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, Netherland, Germany, and England, but I have never seen the amount of garbage that people leave in different Canadian cities. Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, and Quebec are no less than Vancouver. Canadian and Canada Governments don't care about this tragedy. I think everything that says about Canada as a clean and powerful culture is not true. You don't need to travel to Canada to see this. Just watch some videos about walking in downtown Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, and Quebec. You will find the truth. Impossible for you to walk in a Canadian city and you don't see the dark side of that. Everywhere you will see garbage. You will never see this in Europe, Australia, the United States, Japan, and Korea. This amount of waste is not even seen in Malaysian, Indonesian, or Thailand cities. It is impossible for you to use public transport and not see a lot of garbage at stations or on the route. You will be surprised to find a lot of garbage even in the woods - by the rivers and on the beaches in Canada. I wish the Canadians woke up and had no enmity with their country.
Looks more dangerous there than in East London, I was very lucky only one bad tangle with a hit and run driver, a few bones fractured but I Was still alive unlike so many other cyclists in my area who died.
I've seen some pretty crazy videos from London, much busier and narrower roads, but perhaps more awareness of cyclists because there are more of them. I don't think London is a good role model for Toronto, but there are always things to learn from each other! Glad you lived to tell the tale. Safe riding!
I would have just remained on the road for 80% of the video. Every time you switch between lanes is dangerous. Just don't do it and stay on the road instead.
Your approach is more on the gentle side, I would have been much angrier and more assertive since the negligence i’m seeing is what is causing bike deaths. Good on you for calling em out.
Would you have made all those lane changes without ever signalling, just like him? Yes, negligence does cause bike deaths. It's your choice. If you want to break the rules of the road (when was the last time you saw a cyclist stop at a stop sign?) then, in an interaction between your 20lbs of aluminum and 2 tons of steel, you know who will die don't you?
The reality is there simply is not enough space on many T.O roads to accommodate bike / lanes and this vid illustrates this perfectly. Riding a bike downtown is just plain dumb epically with the piss poor level of driving aptitude that's out there . Have fun ride away until you get run over ...
Why are complaining about parked vehicle in the bike lane?It’s ok for cyclist to go from bike lane to roadway but not ok for traffic to use your lane to pass slower traffic.Then people wonder why accidents happens.
Yes. It is ok for a cyclist to go from the bike lane to the roadway but not ok for traffic to use the bike lane. You seem to have a good understanding of the law.
Man, in a car it's really hard to make a left turn into traffic sometimes without pulling up through the bike lane....not to mention dangerous without being able to see what you're about to turn into. I dunno why this guy's so arrogant that he can't slow down or go around cars without shouting something every time... I feel like your stress levels must be maxed out
Leaving the bike lane to go around other traffic means you'll have to merge into a car lane. That can be dangerous if the drivers aren't paying attention, especially if they drive considerably faster than you. Plus it usually forces you to slow down. Which you might not mind much in a car, having the engine to the work. But on a bike constantly needing to slow down because others are obstructing your lane just isn't fun. I mean how to drivers react, when a car merging in front forces them to slow down? Sure he could be a bit more relaxed about it, but the grievance is understandable.
truly disappointing to see the usa and Canada have this problem. infustructure in Canada and usa was built a long time ago, and it's never really been kept in check.
Hi folks, thanks so much for all the interest and comments on this video! I appreciate the opinions, even if I disagree with some of your takes. Bike and bike lanes surely seem to be one of the more divisive issues around road use and road safety in general. Also, I have a newer channel with more and better bike ride content. If you are interested check out: th-cam.com/channels/Oe0SXg_eWh0W_dYnbmHDIQ.html
you didn't actually "deal with" bike lane blockers, you just whined a lot
It's a automobile world. You take your life in your own hands. Also, you're not following all the rules of the road yourself so...
Just ride on the road it's easier
Vancouver is the same way
@@robertosanchez8793 true 😆
Always fun to see assholes like this post something the theythink will get positive comments of people expressing sympathy for what they have to go though, but quickly finding out that like every other aspect of your life, you are AL ALONE in this. Again...like every other career, you are failing badly at this TH-cam attempt.
As a Dutchman, all I can say is crap infrastructure provokes crap driving.
Good Infrastructure is designed in such a way that all forms of traffic can coexist happily.
The one in the video appears to be designed in such a way that it's not only easy but sometimes even necessary to inconvenience one and other.
I have no idea why our roads are like this. I'm hoping to take an internship or maybe even work in Amsterdam to try to learn from the best so I can try to make my home a better place.
sir, you are absolutely correct...
IN CANADA, VELOCITIZED DRIVERS TERRORIZE CYCLISTS. CYCLISTS DON'T WANNA KNOW.
Sure you no not just bikes and bicycle dutch
Yeah other countries are a culture shock in that way. Like Denmark for a example lol. A fluid means of transportation…? What?! No! Certainly that’s not possible.
I just cycled 100km thru the city today and I have to say that taking your time will reduce the chances of an accident. I experienced all the same situations you did and patience made my ride enjoyable.
yes it definitely pays to pick your spots for speeding and realizing that riding in most dense places in the city requires patience :)
@@moreseun just throw your ego out the window
That's because you're not an a-hole like this guy.
At least you guys admit to speeding. Let's be fair and in that regard cycling was designed for recreation, getting from A to B at leisure. What we're seeing from many today is full blown racing speeds designed for speed tacks with absolute disregard for other users.
Wow, bravo on your long ride! It must have taken some time if you were going that slow. I have places to go, and people to see. I'm out here trying to stay alive and live my life, not have leisurely rides. So I don't really need you to tell me how to ride. I have never had an accident, with one exception that was caused by a bike failure, but you do you my friend!
I'm about halfway with you on this. It looks like some higher-speed bike infrastructure might be nice in some parts, but the reality of good urban cycling infrastructure - like good urban car infrastructure - is that it is *not* particularly high speed. On city streets in the world's most bicycle-friendly cities averaging 10-12mph is about all you could hope for.
Which is fine, because you probably don't want to show up for work sweating buckets after riding 20mph for half an hour or more...
That's interesting, thanks. For the record I was rarely, if ever, doing anywhere near 20 mph in this video. Not sure what speed it looks like I'm going, though the GoPro wide angle might make it look faster. I probably aim for about 20 kph (around 15 mph) on city streets. I go faster if I can and want to, but the point is when a car or other obstruction pulls out and blocks a cyclist, it doesn't really matter whether you're going 10 or 20. The point is the design should discourage it and the driver culture should get smarter.
This is completely untrue, Vancouver is the most bike friendly city in Canada and I average 30+ km/h on most bike lanes, with some even being safe at 60 km/h.
@@benfsinger you know that 15mph is about seven times faster than walking, right? Did I see you use the pavement somewhere?
The commenter wanted even faster cycling infrastructure. Why not the same for cars and trucks?
You constantly observed problems during your ride which was great, but unlike when driving a not much quicker in traffic, car, how often did you stop pedalling and racing toward them orincrease risks by swerving around them without slowing down?
@Johan Wittens some of our bike lanes are car lanes blocked off solely for bike/pev usage, so higher speeds are completely reasonable and there is tons of passing distance.
Why not arrive sweaty? I just have a shower and change from cycling kit into business attire.
This video demonstrates so well what it's like to bike in Toronto and how NOT to design bike lanes.
In America bike lanes are a luxury
don't see this guy running for office so who care what he thinks...or you....
DO YOU STOP AT STOPS SIGNS, jYL?
@@LACKanime DO YOU STOP AT STOP SIGNS, LACK?
@@Robertahausen DO YOU STOP AT STOP SIGNS, SS? I WANNA KNOW IF YOU HAVE THE TIME TO CHAT. KIDS NEED TO SEE LAW-ABIDING ADULTS BUT DON'T.
This is why I end up ignoring the bike lanes in London half the time. It is dangerous to keep going re-joining traffic like that.
exactly right!
did you win the race
Those lanes are so thin! They didn't expect them to be used?
There is no room at all to pass, even if the slow cyclist sticks to the right as close as they can. I've ridden these lanes a few times and find it safer to ride with traffic if it's moving.
Argh where that cyclist cut off the pedestrian!! That intersection is horrible for it. Three cyclists did the same last week and actually made a poor women twirl on the spot as they went both sides of her & fast. Just bad manners & dangerous.
the cyclists around U of T are horrible, especially by Varsity Stadium and that Tim's. Absolutely no respect for pedestrians. The guy who posted the video seems to be a decent guy, but he's far in the minority.
Why thanks. I do my best! There are poor cyclists out there for sure. It's not cool. At the same time I try to keep in mind that even a terrible cyclist is unlikely to cause serious injury or death to anyone other than themselves. Better etiquette will come with more normalization of cycling as a mode of safe transport. Until then, while cyclist are considered part of some "fringe" and feel unsafe and marginalized on the road, bad behaviour will be more common.
made her twirl on the spot. like on a cartoon lol
he didnt cut off anyone lol, he passed like 3s before and wait for the pedestrian at the next crossing to cross. yea he shouldn't cross a red but he didn't endanger anyone. On lights like this, if there are no pedestrians crossing I usually go aswell bcos there's 0 danger to it and imo even safer than stopping
carry around a stick and put it in the wheels... they slow down
I can’t tell if I’m adding years onto my life by cycling, or taking them off because of frustrations like the ones in this vid.
2:55 "I assume I don't have to tell you you're blocking the bike lane, right?" I like how you phrased that 😁👍
DEFLATE THE TIRES.
Dude, do you stop at stop signs? Do you have time to chat?
Its a car centric city w Uber delivery. Wtf do you want? Have you ever ordered delivery?
Its not: youre blocking the bike lane.
Its: let's share the space.
Pyscho
@@fe7kh Have you ever ridden a bike in Toronto? The laws are quite clear: it is illegal to drive, stop, or park in a bike lane.
@@cmmartti share the road and go around. It's also illegal to blow thru stop signs and red lights yet cyclist do all the time.
No one is parking their delivery truck far away, to delivery the food to your favorite restaurants.
Until the city plans better, just have to share.
Splitting lanes, weaving in and out of bike lane then regular traffic lane, speeding past people who are moving to “slow” for you then having the gall to get angry at practically everyone else on the road-pedestrian or motorist or biker. Great job, mate!!
you're mad at a cyclist for splitting lanes? are you unable to steer your car and maintain a straight line or something?
Your comment is spot on. I was about to add a similar comment, but you beat me to it. This typical behaviour of an entitled cyclist is an accident waiting to happen.
@@MervynPartin entitled car users have all the road to themselves and still manage to blame cyclists
It’s true they are far from perfect but honestly a welcome improvement. Going slower when you are in a shared bike with riders of different skill levels and experience may prevent you crashing into a slower commuter . High park , the Don or Humber accommodate faster speeds and have space to maneuver .
Thanks for the comment! I agree, I am happy about the lanes too. Caution is required, though I always try to give a wide berth to slower riders. Just curious how this video came to you because it's taken off in the past week, and I'm not sure why! I actually have a newer channel at bit.ly/3jWvGmU if you care to check it out! Tx!
@@benfsinger it popped up in my feed tonight actually . Will check your other out . Be safe
CYCLIST WEAR EAR BUDS AND CAN'T HEAR BELLS SIGNALING PASSING.
@@deleuze369 DO YOU HAVE TIME DO TALK? DO YOU STOP AT STOP SIGNS, MITCH?
Poor designs, but also poor behavior on the part of the cyclist towards pedestrians.
bmorepanic, yeah, he treated that space as his own personal and don't dare cross it or go slow. Forced that old lady off her bike and onto the kerb. In cases where bit suited him, he swerved out into the road to pass but in that case it was "get the eff out of the way, I'm coming through regardless." In many cases he really came across as an arsehole.
This guy is the quintessential cyclist that feels superior to all others and ignores the rules while get pissed off at people for ignoring the rules.
Bike lanes are great until there are knobs like you bombing around, you dont see the dutch riding like you in a city, you'll bring speed limits and more restriction to the lanes.
He never told us what his emergency was that caused him to speed through the bike lanes.
He wasn't using the fastest gear and he had already paid for it. It is clearly an emergency... And he is a dbag
only an entitled car driver who has never commuted by bike would think he is "speeding"
@@KekusMagnus Actually I have lived in Bologna for several years, commuting daily within the city center on my bike. This guy is in some great rush, making things less pleasant for others. Just watch him. Just listen to him. The problem with the Net is silly comments like this one from people who are mean-spirited.
You should follow the bike path all the time, in zig zag you will get an accident soon. Just be patient and follow the line.
I don’t know man, going left of right turning traffic seems better than getting run over
Why do bikers think they should be able to ride uninterrupted? If I drive a car I sometimes end up behind other cars and I don’t start honking my horn and start screaming screaming. fing rude this guy. Yes I am a biker myself have done some really long rides, 4670 km and 5200 km so I think I know what I am talking about.
Congrats on your long rides. Very impressive. I don't have an expectation to ride uninterrupted, but I do have an expectation that cars don't cut me off of illegally park or drive in bike lanes. I hope that helps!
@@benfsinger You think you have the right of way over pedestrians, too. What gave you that notion?
@@kaycee557 Because its dangerous? You also don't just cross the road when a car is going to hit you or would have to slam the breaks.
@@sebastiand1816 Pay attention. I didn't say that.
Get-there-it-is effects pilots and city slicker Karen cyclists, Hans. Wiki it. It is a big part of road rage, along with velocitized drivers terrorizing cyclists.
They aren't blocking the way your just going alot faster
The cars? When they are blocking a bike lane, it doesn't matter how fast a bike is going. They are blocking it. #science
THEY WEAR EAR BUDS AND CAN'T HEAR HIS LITTLE BELL, JOHN.
@@benfsinger DEFLATE THE TIRES, MR MONTY PYTHON.
@@martinkent333 yes
@@benfsinger oh yeah you are correct.
Love seeing parents out biking with their kids on the back, always makes me happy to see that.
Dear lord
This is the most stressful commute ever
It's not really a commute, the video is a collection of different major bike lanes across the city. If one were commuting in Toronto I would recommend taking side streets and staying off main roads as much as possible.
You think this is bad, try Chicago's Old Town district at 3pm. You can't even use the bike lanes due to the swarm of uber drivers clogging the lanes while waiting for their pickup. Also, pedestrians trying to reach those ubers fling themselves into traffic.
You appear to be a little impatient and somewhat judgemental of other road users. Perhaps a bit more consideration for others and less on how quickly you can complete your journey.
Yes, I do get impatient and judgemental with people breaking laws, blocking bike lanes, cutting me off and otherwise putting me at risk.
Haha if you think this guy is judge mental and impatient (which he isn’t) then you’d get a kick out of Zero Enigma on TH-cam haha.
@@benfsinger But the white car waiting to make a left turn at 4:32 did nothing wrong, right? He can't see if he waits further back and you got around him just fine. Don't take too much stress and ride safe. You are right about cars stopping/parking on bike lanes just because they are lazy to walk a couple of meters. They shouldn't do that.
Unfortunately, the North America never solve the problem of the bad bicycle infraestructure. A good bicycle infraestructure is way more than just painting the street with green.
How selfish of the entire world not to get out of your way, and allow you completely unfettered access at all times.
Yes, I think we should all stop what we are doing, and dedicate the rest of our lives to making this guy happy.
How would you like it if I made a semi truck block an entire interstate? You’re so selfish if you dont want me to do that, I need to park somewhere!
Riding that fast in the city and along a bike lane shared by different levels and types of cyclists is reckless.
Right? It's not your personal race track..
He should just stay in the “car lane” i reckon.
So bike commuting should just be illegal? Maybe like he is trying to show better and more infrastructure is needed. 15 MPH is not reckless!
@@matthewgrice5411 Not at all. Calling for much needed infrastructure improvement is great but what is not good and reckless is going 15mph on infrastructure that cant accommodate that speed, creating a dangerous situation for other cyclists and himself. Hope you understand.
@@MisterJZ 15 miles an hour is not fast, how fast do you think he should be going, as fast as the slowest person so there is no overtaking?
Sounds like you need to adapt a 6-volt automotive horn to your bicycle (or just purchase one of the ready-made such solutions out there).
Our protected bike lanes don't really facilitate efficient traversal. Proof is in how often you had to leave them/how many obstacles there were.
I personally avoid cycling on Bloor/Danforth and leave it to the less confident. They will have a better experience if im not there too.
Yeah for sure. I totally get your take. I also don't use them that much, but it's hard to find a more convenient east-west route across downtown!
@@benfsinger I use Dupont/Davenport west of the Don. Dundas (getting worse) or Cosburn east of it. Yes, it can be out of the way, but its faster since you don't need to slow down as much.
@@cycleyyz you'd have to be pretty fast to make it worthwhile for most of my rides! But I know you are! Also, Dundas is being closed for all of October at Howard Park, so that's gonna make things fun!
@@cycleyyz good choices. I have used milverton going east and found it to be a great ride.
@@SuperJoeaverage except that there are no lights across each major intersection - bit of a pain. Mortimer is OK.
In some places the cars had no choice but to be blocking the cycle lane whilst they waited to see if it was safe to proceed out of the side road or carpark etc. Do cyclists not have to stop when crossing a side road that isn't controlled by traffic lights?
That wouldn't make any sense, as travelling on a major road you cross dozens if not hundreds of side roads. Some have signals, and there I stop. Cars turning out from the side roads have the obligation to see if it's safe to turn without obstructing lanes, bike or otherwise. It can be tricky at times due to parked vehicles, and we should be understanding, but for the most part car drivers pay little attention to cyclists and pull out, cutting us off in the process. When one SUV edged out and blocked the bike lane, I urged him to go ahead, because I could see the road was clear.. It might sound "rude" but there is no other way to communicate when on a bike and dealing with closed-windowed, oversized vehicles.
I noticed that you zip in and out of your bike lane very quickly and I really really doubt that you use any hand signals at all. Unfortunately, you seem to be one of the self entitled people that because you ride a bike you deserve to go unimpeded anyway you want. Unfortunately there are other people that live and drive in the same areas and you need to be aware of them because you were the one that’s going to die if you get hit
@@rogerwelyki1370 wtf what kind of shit you pulling
I am in san jose california. I cycle a lot daily. I commute. They have expressway 45-50mph. I love it. I dont have to deal with pedestrians pets, other cyclists (rarely), parked cars, bike lanes, protected bike lanes, etc. I only have to deal with one thing: fast moving cars, in and out of freeway overpass or underpass (they call it on ramp and off ramp). Do you have any solutions to on ramp off ramp situations? I can ride minimum 15mph max 20mph flat surface on these expressways. These expressways have few traffic lights.
Most people will be too passive or shy to call out a driver in the bike lane. I say if this guy wants to do it, he probably speaks for many frustrated cyclists and will hopefully help correct some of that behaviour to avoid future accidents. All fun and games until someone gets killed.
Hey dont be an idiot and respect the rules like stoping at red lights. Dont give roadies a bad rep.
Cheers and ride safe!
The problem with that is the rules often don't consider anything that's not a car even as an afterthought.
Where I live, there are plenty of stop signs in places where you'd only ever stop a bike if you have a death wish, and red lights that will happily stay red all day if there isn't a car in front of them. I routinely *have* to run red lights even on my motorcycle because I literally couldn't get anywhere otherwise.
If everyone should follow the rules, the rules need to work for everyone.
@@blooptastic That´s not my reality and does not make any sense to me. Honestly, where do you live?
To be clear, not making excuses for the guy in the video. He should've stopped for the pedestrian!
@@blooptastic Thats all I´m saying man. If it was me crossing the street would pissed off with this idiot. Imagine having a crash with your beloved bike because some idiot is busy yelling at others with total disregard about traffic? I do talk and confront drivers but I live by example too.
@@wsbygt anywhere in america that isn't a city
I used to be a city bicyclist, and somehow lived through the period. Way too dangerous. Now, if I ride in the city at all, it's a mile or two on back streets or alleys.
I used to commute by bike in Boston between '99-'13, long before there was a single bike lane in the city. I got doored about 4-5 times, and went over the hood of a turning car twice. But luckily no serious injuries during that period. I have no idea how I survived lol.
I feel for the bikers when people block the lane, but like what happened in the video I can’t stand those bikers that run the lights or almost hit pedestrians crossing the crosswalk on a light
Agreed, both are bad. I would say though that the chances of those cyclists actually killing someone are very low to nil. I've heard of it but it's extremely rare. Cars are much deadlier. It's just physics, but I don't condone rude or dangerous cycling either!
@@benfsinger someone standing in the bike lane is not going to kill anyone
I can't stand cyclists who don't stick to the cycle lane.
@@nostalgia815 But you're ok with folks blocking or driving in bike lanes?
@@shadowgarr7649 Is that what I said?
I think you could be more forgiving. I’m not saying you’re in the wrong, but for example cars edging out.
They might have been stuck there for a long time and just need to eventually edge more and more into the traffic, inadvertently getting into the bike lane.
I’m from a country where there isn’t much bike lanes, so I’m not sure either. Just my opinion
If you think this guy could be more forgiving you should check out Zero Enigma on TH-cam. Don’t even want to imagine what your comments would be like on his videos hahaha
You have to edge to see what’s coming. Often you’ll see an opening, move up and a car pops out from behind an obstacle and then you have to stop and end up in a bike or pedestrian lane.
@@girshin If you have to edge into bike lanes and sidewalks, then the streets are designed poorly. Visibility should good enough to be behind the crosswalk.
@@heroslippy6666 That's nice, so what do you think us drivers should do? Maybe we could get out of our vehicles and start building a new road right then and there just for us. We have to edge out or we can't see what's coming including a cyclist.
@@stinkyham9050 Complain to your city that the roads are poorly designed. Parts of the world have road safety figured out. The US is stuck in a mindset thinking that car accidents are a part of life and that nothing can be done. Places in Europe have gotten this figured out decades ago. Roads can be built safer. Visibility can be improved around corners. Physical obstruction may have to be removed, but it can be done.
I would say 4:31 is kind of a lose lose situation. If the car had stopped further to the right it would have blocked the sidewalk, and if it had stopped any further yet to the right, the driver wouldn't have been able to see oncoming traffic well enough, thus potentially resulting in the white car getting t-boned by another car. Point being it looks like a shit spot to have to pull out of.
@1:28, the car didn't cut you off, it was making a left turn as the green was ending to clear the intersection. However, all the more reason we need fully separate bike infrastructure, Toronto is so bad, forcing bikes to contend with cars as a second class form of transit on the same road network.
So is it ok for a car to pass another car in the cycle lane
Not legally, no.
Eric, do you stop at stop signs? Do you have a minute to chat?
If you want to act like a motorist who think bikes don't belong in the street, why don't you just ride in the street with the cars and leave normal bicyclists in the bike lanes alone? I am a biker and folks like you give bikers ovefrall a bad name. Your video just gives power to motorists who don't even want the city spending money on bike lanes and shrinking their precious road ways. ..or you could just relax and look at Not Just Bikes and see how it is really done. True. our bike infrastructure is not a good as the Netherlands but you don't have to act this way. What is your hurry?
Do you think delivery drivers (and other workmen for that matter) are at fault when parking/stopping in the bike lane? Do you think they shouldn't?
The streber should be designed in such a way that it is more convenient NOT to stop in the bike lane. In the meantime, park on a side street or alleyway if there’s one within a a couple hundred feet or so.
Just because you make deliveries, does not mean traffic laws don't apply to you.
@@hendman4083 Fair response. What do you suppose delivery drivers should do in those situations?
@@hendman4083 I've worked as a delivery driver in an urban environment it's very hard you need to meet certain standards of x amount of packets per hour and driving around finding a parking space wouldn't work. I know it might be annoying but being a delivery driver can be very tough. Often you literally don't have a choice. Urban city design needs to think more for delivery drivers it's just gonna be increasing drivers are not at fault. It's the company and city design
@@ultrablue7018 It still doesn't mean traffic laws don't apply to you. You cannot pick what law is convenient for you, and what law isn't.
When delivery drivers start breaking the law to meet their quotum, their employers will never get the message that the set goals are impossible to reach.
Can you report the cars?
I am plagued with people opening Dar doors, I got shunted twice last week.
It is never ending. I've learned to give them a wide berth, but still get caught at times. Check out my newer channel here: bit.ly/3jWvGmU
Really? It happened to me once in pouring rain after 20 years cycle commuting in London (England).
THAT YELLOW VEST IS UNSIGHTLY, BUT SAVES YOUR ASS. I THOUGHT FOLKS WITH KEYS ON A CHAIN TO THEIR PANTS WERE SIMPLE, UNTIL I LEFT MY KEYS IN THE DOOR MULTIPLE TIMES.
@@benfsinger THAT YELLOW VEST MAKES CYCLISTS SEEN, BUT CYCLISTS PREFER BLACK CLOTHES, FOR THE EXACT SAME REASON PEDESTRIANS WEAR DARK CLOTHES AT NIGHT. PLAIN SUICIDAL. ONE CLOSE CALL CURED ME FAST.
@@daifromwales9543 HERE IN CANADA, CYCLING FOLKS WEAR DARK CLOTHES AND BLOW STOP SIGNS. THE DRIVER PARKED NEAR A CORNER, LOOKS AND SEES NO CYCLIST. THEN THE CYLIST BLOWS A STOP SIGN AT HIGH SPEED AND COMES INTO DOORING RANGE IN ONE HALF A SECOND. CARS NEAR CORNERS NEED TIME TO REACT. IF THE CYCLISTS STOPPED, THE VELOCITY IS SLOWER AND EASIER TO SPOT. BLIND SPOTS LIKE CORNERS ARE NOTORIOUS FOR DOORING. CYCLISTS WHO GET DOORED ARE RARELY VISIBLE. THE DRIVERS WEAR SUNGLASSES. OK DAIF?
Our issue here is the bike lines being directly to the LEFT of parked cars…I can’t even hardly utilize the lane without fear of someone just pulling out or my ass getting doored haha but if I ride in the car lane…I get yelled at…
Remember, pedestrians ALWAYS have the right-of-way, not self-righteous asshole bikers. And yes, I ride 100+ miles a week.
I don't get why you feel like noone is allowed to get in your way .
What... There are byke lanes in your country...?
I ride Bloor everyday. got to the point of adding a air horn to my bike. bells are underrated for city riding
Has anyone opened a car door to you yet? As in leeds Britain they don't all the time.
It's becoming Saver to ride in traffic than riding the cycle lane. Plus pedestrians into it all the time.
This video is the best evidence I've yet seen in favor of lane-holding.
let the roadbuilders come look in netherland
I am sending them over! The problem is they might not come back!
Most Netherlands cities have wider roads except in the historic centres.
@@daifromwales9543 Nope, been studied. www.aviewfromthecyclepath.com/ has some info about that.
@@brammeijboom1873 It is undeniable that London is huge, hilly and windy. Especially hilly and windy. My most obvious cycling destination is one mile away. Uphill all the way. The pleasure is not worth the pain. OK I enjoy my veteran cycle in the local park, although I can never trust oncoming cyclists to pass on the left, which leads to some scary confrontations. And I cannot carry my arthritic mother in law to church on a bicycle. Work is 7 miles (10k), over hills and against the sun on the way in, and against sun and wind going home. Incidentally cycling (like most heavy exercise) is bad for your teeth and gums!
They did and came upp with this crap!
It isn't a joke, they really looked ad the Netherlands and Copenhagen, but clearly didn't understand how to do it!
If you're cycling in a city with bike lanes, one thing you have no right to complain about is slower cyclists. Commuters need to get places without being drenched in sweat. Heck commuter bikes are designed to actively discourage speed and increase comfort. In downtown Montreal, during rush hour, it isn't unusual to be following 10 other very slow cyclists as you're going home. Bike lanes, frankly, need speed limits during peak use hours.
But what you can complain about is that your bike lane isn't side enough to let you pass slower cyclists.
Where did you see me complain about slower cyclists? I am mentioning that it is difficult to pass them in the bike lanes, so I find ways around them. I didn't complain once. People have the right to go their own speed. That said, they should be aware of their surroundings and not stop in the bike lane or obliviously wander into it without checking.
You've said it all! Passing slower cyclists!! From what I've witnessed of cyclists it' s a constant I'm faster than you race! You are not on the toure de France even though your licra bodies might suggest it! Use cycle lanes which at great cost have been installed for your safety and treat red lights like they mean something!!!!!
Just No
Bikers are quite happy to hold up cars but don't like getting held up themselves do they.
Cycling weasels crave death. Are you related to Gary Sowerby? Cycling weasels crave cash payouts for small traffic accidents. Do you stop at stop signs Graham? Do you have a minute to chat?
Maybe drivers can drive without using their phone, running red lights, change lane without indicating, ignoring give way lines and pulling out dangerously on to oncoming traffic. Drivers are the biggest menace on the roads not cyclists.
Have you ever thought that vehicles often cannot see if it's safe to pull out from a side road without having to pull on to the bike lane?
If I'm driving and a pedestrian is on a collision course with me do I just keep up the same speed and to hell with the paperwork? No, I slow down and take evasive action. Don't bicycles have brakes these days?
Priorities in order of merit:
1 Pedestrians
2 Bicycles
3 Motor vehicles
A strode is poorly designed if you have to be in the bike lane/ cross walk to see around the corner.
Some places will even require certain amounts of visibility around corners.
Whenever the opportunity is forced upon me, I pass on the left when I sense a pending right hook.
I'm thinking of sporting a tunic that reads "Pass behind me asshole!"
My boss moved out of the city because of this reason BIKES and laid off 19 workers that didn't want to move, but at lease people in the next town got the jobs and they are more relaxed driving around now.... STRESS
If any nation is serious about environmental issues then the bicycle must be given a higher priority
Amen, brother!
So jealous of the little infrastructure you all have, we have less in most places in the US.
i’m in san diego and we’ve recently added lots of similar infrastructure
This guys asking to be knocked off. Hows about taking your time and being patient instead of barging your way through like you own the place
Is it the law that all cycle lanes must be in the door zone in Toronto?
I stop and I don't see any bikes coming I try to merge onto traffic I wait to merge but than bikes come they freak out . I'm more than happy to share the road. ( bloor and Clinton)
as a daily bicycle commuter I can't stand riders like this guy.
The sustain on that bike bell... you can go and have a bite and youll still be hearing that one
We have some urban bike lanes in San Diego. Almost never see them being used. Here in San Diego we have these things called hills and there is this huge ball of fire in the sky that can get quite warm. A friend of mine tried to make bicycles his primary mode of transportation. When we would come over to visit he looked like he fell in a swimming pool he was so sweaty.
e-bike!
Welcome to Toronto. With hundreds of miles of bike lanes you will never have trouble finding a place to park.
Hundreds of miles of bike lanes that are 99% unused and useless, because not properly designed.
Not true. Here in San Diego they took one of the most popular streets for restaurants and shopping and removed all the parking and put in bike lanes that nobody uses. Businesses hated it because most people in the city are never going to go there again because they have nowhere to park. From where I live it would be nearly an hour and a half to get there by light rail and bus. It takes 16 minutes in my car. We will never have the population density that Amsterdam has and we are a much larger city. Toronto is nearly 4x the population of Amsterdam!
@@norwegianblue2017 That's exactly what I tell everyone. If you want people using bike lanes, they need to go somewhere. Its bits and pieces of bike lanes that arent connected.
whats a right hook btw
When a car passes you from behind and then proceeds to turn right, cutting you off as they cross your path/turn into you. It happens a lot in North America, with right-hand traffic. Left hooks happen too in the opposite direction, usually at a light when an oncoming car makes a left without accounting for you approaching.
Is koreatown where the filmed Kim’s Convenience?
I believe Kim's Convenience was filmed at the REAL Kim's Convenience at 252 Queen St E, near Sherbourne.
1:28 same thing happened to me today, almost got very seriously injured. This video shows exactly what I hate about the Toronto bike lanes. I think Yonge street should be converted into one big bike lane
If you can't pass in the bike lane, it is too narrow, I'd give it a D . For deadly.
Ring that bell - oh yeah, big city slickers have illegal ear buds. Duhhhhhhhhhh
Right on, dude. Just moved to Vancouver island from Main street station on the Danforth... huge change. I was a courier there for a few years, riding fixed. I took the Dan into downtown every morning... It's nice having this video to show to my partner and friends to accurately depict what an average commute was like. Good stuff, thanks (y)
Lucky you. Not sure how long you’ve been there but whatever it was that you knew is now 10x worse. Toronto is not friendly to anything that moves, even pedestrians. I was close to moving there but my wife changed her mind. I’m probably gonna move there without her. The whole GTA is a nightmare. And it seems, nobody cares.
@@carbonunit6573 oh, man... I just moved here in January hahaha not too long ago... maybe move here and send your wife pics and videos of how peaceful it is. She might change her tune ;) I dont regret it
@@thrivedru we are there all the time. We have family there. She is doing her best to make my life miserable. Hence the end of 26 yrs of marriage. BTW gas is $2.14 a litre here. What are they jacking you for gas now? Last I remember it was about 40 cents more per litre there.
@@carbonunit6573 oh, well....shit...sorry to hear..... or.... congrats on your emancipation?
We're paying 2.26 per L right now.... and it's supposed to go up to 2.30.... it's insane. It costs just over 100$ to fill my little truck.
Most of the video I was holding my breath. What a dangerous journey.
DO YOU STOP AT STOP SIGNS? DO YOU HAVE TIME TO CHAT?
@@martinkent333 you mean on a bicycle? I’m from the Netherlands, I never saw a stop sign when on bike. The channel not just bikes made a video about it. th-cam.com/video/42oQN7fy_eM/w-d-xo.html
And I don’t chat at all.
To be fair you broke a lot of rules yourself and honestly most cars barely follow normal traffic laws. Most bike laws got passed so recently they weren't even on a driving test for most drivers. They just renew their license over and over again without taking a test. I think in the USA you only have to do it once every ten years or so.
That's not for serious cyclist though or how does it work?
Bicyclists: more bike lanes pls
Me: uses the traffic lane every time, all the time
Ya well, it's not exactly club med for us drivers either. Especially driving a large service van around Toronto.
How do you approach a right turn with a bike lane? The proper HTA way is for the motorist to block off the bike lane to prevent a right hook, but cyclists have also yelled at motorists for blocking the lane...
I'm not sure why they can't stop behind our car and wait like any other car would have to do.
4:50 That's a nice bike* you've got there!
hey man when i get my camera i will record the bike lane blockers in netherlands, u would think that the netherlands has good infrastructure for bikes but no
Compared with the bike lanes in the Netherlands yours are too narrow for a bicyclist taking over. I calculate 75 cm per bicyclist. And to ride comfortly a bicycle lane should be at least 2 meters.wide. That's almost as wide as a car lane which I estimate 2,5m . Please inform the city planners to reserve an entire car lane for bicyclists only and separate it from cars to reduce accidents.
Not sure bout taxes over there, but in the states property tax, gas tax, tax on purchase price goes to the infrastructure. Bikers had a shit fit when someone suggested taxing them. I'm sorry, but not interested in putting another lane in for bikes.
You seem to be causing more problems by swerving in and out and not caring for others who are slower than you but have every right to go at their own pace. You seem to a road rage cyclist.
I don't think I was causing any problems at all. I am riding at my own pace, passing those who are slower if needed. How do you ride?
@Giuliano Skywalker These cyclists wear ear buds and can't hear the bell warning of passing. Giuliano, do you stop at stop signs? Do you have time to chat?
Don't know why this was suddenly recommended to me. I just finished and liked a bunch of animated videos...
Anyway, as a Dutchman this is stressful and I *know* this is leagues better than most cycling infrastructure in NA :0
All the more reason I’m against bike lanes on or near major roadways even if they’re “protected “ motorist turning or coming onto the main roadways can’t see and have to block bike lanes in order to drive onto the streets… urban planners need to get rid of the bike lanes all together and create bike trails and bike paths so that cyclists can have there own complete space free from cars and other motor vehicles having bikes on the roadways is dangerous they can’t keep up with the vehicle traffic and you can’t see bikes half the time, I ride motorcycles and cars don’t see you on a motorcycle so they definitely will not see you on a bicycle
Our small town (Vänersborg, Sweden) are making some efforts to build bikelanes here and there. Sometimes they do it according to the "Rabbit Bible" (Correct) but sometimes the efforts results in disaster.
When watching the video I notice however that the Toronto bike-lane is much smaller than ours, but I see the same problem - lanes used for parking or for pedestrians or signs, posters, roll-ups/downs, flags or a great place to smash beer bottles.
There was one thing in particular that made me smile in recognition - pedistrians crossing a bike-line WITHOUT looking out. If travelling (I am old and worn out) at 20-25 km/h, I can certainly kill someone who steps out in front of me. People don't cross a road like that ...
Brilliant video, I think after the fourth time seeing the hint about out.out risking getting hit by a right hook car, it's now drilled into my head to just go and pass them on their left, great video
the city easily had the ability to do 2 way bike lanes on both richmond and adelaide and fumbled that shit hard
Did you ever feel like purposefully running into the motor vehicle blocking the lane? It would be their fault in almost every case.
Feel like? Sure. But I've only ever done it by accident. The risks to myself both from the collision and a rageful driver, not to mention potential legal consequences would be far too great.
@@benfsinger I lived in Ottawa for 7 years and rode a bicycle when I was there; maybe I was just bolder. I cut a pool noodle to 98 cm and mounted it protruding out the left side of my bicycle (overall very effective at enforcing passing distance, although a few vehicles hit it from time to time) and also installed an electric 10 inch vibrating bell (which usually worked much better to get attention).
You display much anger. Try to relax and share with others. Then you may experience joy. All the best to you. Stay safe.
Get-there-it -is, is a dangerous problem with Karens. Wiki, Dicky!
What's the rush!
I wish more people would do this rather than just moaning .Your being helpful and it's possible someone might listen and learn something .Thanks from the islands in the hebrides in Scotland .
Hey I appreciate that! I've gotten so much hate from this video (though more views than I ever do). I wonder why it's gone so much to the UK, as I live in Canada and have never biked over there. Love to some time though, Cheers from here!
When a road hog is blocking you, don’t go to his stinky backside. Take your time and go slowly around the front where they can see you clearly and give them the stinky eye - whether you are a cyclist, and even better, a walker, on crutches, or in a wheelchair. Take your time.
I'd rather not be road kill because people are oblivious to their surroundings when driving. If you are not in a car, then you are invisible.
I ride a motor scooter. Legally, I'm supposed to ride in the bike lane. But it's just not safe to fight with car doors like that.
I'm so sorry for Canada. Most things about a good Canada are not true, Including clean cities - beaches, and forests. It's a big lie. The first time I arrived in Vancouver in 2018, I was shocked. As soon as I left the airport door, I saw tissue, disposable glasses, and other garbage left in the city. The further I went, the more I saw them. Before I moved to Canada, I lived in Georgia, Armenia, Turkey, Serbia, The United States, and for a short time in Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, Netherland, Germany, and England, but I have never seen the amount of garbage that people leave in different Canadian cities. Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, and Quebec are no less than Vancouver. Canadian and Canada Governments don't care about this tragedy. I think everything that says about Canada as a clean and powerful culture is not true. You don't need to travel to Canada to see this. Just watch some videos about walking in downtown Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, and Quebec. You will find the truth. Impossible for you to walk in a Canadian city and you don't see the dark side of that. Everywhere you will see garbage. You will never see this in Europe, Australia, the United States, Japan, and Korea. This amount of waste is not even seen in Malaysian, Indonesian, or Thailand cities. It is impossible for you to use public transport and not see a lot of garbage at stations or on the route. You will be surprised to find a lot of garbage even in the woods - by the rivers and on the beaches in Canada. I wish the Canadians woke up and had no enmity with their country.
Looks more dangerous there than in East London, I was very lucky only one bad tangle with a hit and run driver, a few bones fractured but I Was still alive unlike so many other cyclists in my area who died.
I've seen some pretty crazy videos from London, much busier and narrower roads, but perhaps more awareness of cyclists because there are more of them. I don't think London is a good role model for Toronto, but there are always things to learn from each other! Glad you lived to tell the tale. Safe riding!
Lawless capitals like London and Toronto practice social negligence. It is like a fifth column.
London is really crap those two way systems are to narrow and then in a hard curb
I would have just remained on the road for 80% of the video.
Every time you switch between lanes is dangerous. Just don't do it and stay on the road instead.
Your approach is more on the gentle side, I would have been much angrier and more assertive since the negligence i’m seeing is what is causing bike deaths. Good on you for calling em out.
Would you have made all those lane changes without ever signalling, just like him? Yes, negligence does cause bike deaths. It's your choice. If you want to break the rules of the road (when was the last time you saw a cyclist stop at a stop sign?) then, in an interaction between your 20lbs of aluminum and 2 tons of steel, you know who will die don't you?
The same issue also here in the Philippines
The reality is there simply is not enough space on many T.O roads to accommodate bike / lanes and this vid illustrates this perfectly. Riding a bike downtown is just plain dumb epically with the piss poor level of driving aptitude that's out there . Have fun ride away until you get run over ...
Why are complaining about parked vehicle in the bike lane?It’s ok for cyclist to go from bike lane to roadway but not ok for traffic to use your lane to pass slower traffic.Then people wonder why accidents happens.
You have stated the law well, thank you!
Yes. It is ok for a cyclist to go from the bike lane to the roadway but not ok for traffic to use the bike lane. You seem to have a good understanding of the law.
I respect bike lanes, but what about the car drivers who see you leaving the bike lane to take up space on the road a bit slefish don't you think !
What is the point of bike lanes if cars and vans park in them ? Cars moan when you ride a bike in there lane holding them up !
Man, in a car it's really hard to make a left turn into traffic sometimes without pulling up through the bike lane....not to mention dangerous without being able to see what you're about to turn into. I dunno why this guy's so arrogant that he can't slow down or go around cars without shouting something every time... I feel like your stress levels must be maxed out
Anywhere a bike lane is present, the dimensions of the road and clearances allow to see far enough without encroaching on the lane. Drive better.
Leaving the bike lane to go around other traffic means you'll have to merge into a car lane. That can be dangerous if the drivers aren't paying attention, especially if they drive considerably faster than you. Plus it usually forces you to slow down. Which you might not mind much in a car, having the engine to the work. But on a bike constantly needing to slow down because others are obstructing your lane just isn't fun. I mean how to drivers react, when a car merging in front forces them to slow down? Sure he could be a bit more relaxed about it, but the grievance is understandable.
truly disappointing to see the usa and Canada have this problem. infustructure in Canada and usa was built a long time ago, and it's never really been kept in check.