Owen wasn’t asking for it. Vince didn’t let everyone grieve for a couple of days. There should have been a pause. It’s amazing how ECW was hardcore yet no one ever died, yet it happened in WWE.
how was it preventable! Since you know so much , why not share the details of what you say. Car accidents are also preventable if people dont drive but as we see, its better if people drive from point A to B
If you actually read interviews from the people there and involved and who set it up you would learn vince didn't have anything to do with the story being written, the rigging team setting up the cable or the execution of the stunt that night. Ultimate responsibility with him? Sure. Because he hired the people who hired the crew. But he didn't have the input on the stunt and for you to just tee off and say he does just shows how little of a clue you have about the whole ordeal.
@@HeywoodJablowme7yeah I remember the Owen Hart documentary his wife said that the harness was cheap they could have used a different one but it was someone's incompetence that cost Owen his life
@andrewsmith3257 the clip wasn't cheap, it was the wrong clip to ever use for a stunt. There was no backup clip because the stunt called for none for the stunt to work. The clip didn't break it was triggered early by mistake. Ever wonder why noone did go to jail? Because they settled out of court for cash when they knew it would be impossible to prove culpability. Vince Russo was contacted by a rigging crew, he wrote the stunt to call for a comedic landing. Russo ASSUMED that the riggers who had done it for years could do it safely as they had performed stunts for sting. The rigger was given instructions, he followed them. He rigged the stunt for the desired effect which meant no backup. He points finger at wwe, wwe point finger back. If anyone truly was responsible it should have been the rigger, he should of told them the instructions they gave him were too dangerous and shouldn't be attempted. He didn't. He assumed he could rig the stunt and have it done safely. They did a rehearsal trial once with it before the show and it went fine. Owen's instructions were as long as you don't pull the cord early you're fine. The thought is while he was fixing his Cape to get comfortable, the Cape caught onto the cord and triggered the release. The cable didn't break, it was activated. Vince mcmahon for all his faults had absolutely nothing to do with the story written or setting up the rigging for it. He would have been busy and left everyone who were "professionals" to do their job. Is Vince ultimately responsible? Yes because it was his company that employed Russo and hired the riggers but as for the actual responsible for setting up the stunt? Even the most hardened hater of Vince couldn't agree with that.
New Jack was spot on. Vince pressured Owen to do that stunt against Owen's objections, and hired the company that rigged Owen in a defective mechanism. If that's not an element of responsibility then I don't know what is.
To my knowledge Ken don't do too many shoot interviews. The E all but blackballed him and hasn't mentioned him since he left... I don't think he cares about keeping silent at this point.
Also wouldn't there be at least 1 wrestler who "reveals all"? Also you people who think once someone gives you tons of money you can completely throw your morals out the window is silly. Maybe some people are like that, not Ken. He was tougher than nails and one of the top guys in the UFC back when it had no rules. I don't think you can persuade him to do anything if he doesn't want to do it.
😂Okay... I have to give Vlad some respect. He can bust out a video clip from his library, in reference to ANY possible news story or headline that's trending. Aliens could land tomorrow, and we'll see a TK clip about aliens.
Shamrock dodged the question. Owen didn't feel comfortable with that spot and Vince wanted it to go on. At the very least they should have canceled the show and given everyone their money back with a guarantee they'd be given the same seats at a different date when they returned.
Hindsight is 20/20. Owen SHOULD have said I don't feel comfortable doing this, I'm going to die. It's Owen's fault. You can make the same argument except Pro Vince.
@@JobVanDam That's not the point. You totally missed what the narrative was about. The only thing pro Vince is that he got someone killed and then had the show anyway. That's the kind of "pro" Vince is.
I forgot which wrestler said it, but it was along the lines of “If it was Shane McMahon that died that night instead of Owen, Vince would of stopped the show.”
First live WWE show I ever went to, I didn’t expect it but when Vince walked out and his music hit, I was the most excited about that. The rock and stone cold were still there at the time too. Vince stole the show in my opinion. His character was great. Tough to hear these new allegations.
Considering theres been allegations from murder to drugs to rape since the 80s this isnt surprising -- Shamrock was right, it's just now known cause they were all paid. Sure Vince is now confirmed a real life bastard but that doesnt really turn any head away from Grant after only speaking when the money was done
My problem is when someone says, "He's never done anything to me/hes always treated me well." So that means it's okay if he abuses and takes advantage of other people? And no, Owen Hart and the ring girls did not "do it to themselves." Sorry, but Ken would not make a good witness to the truth if someone else was victimized. The "Nasty Boys" always treated me well....
Yeah, noticed that as well. My dad was on meth for around 6 months when I was a kid and he'd constantly lick his lips like that and couldn't sit still for even 3 seconds.
It's a legends deal ...Vince McMahon hasn't been associated with WWE in months now...he has been gone for the past year. Today He just had to resign from being one of the share holder...and leave for good. But when it pretains to WWE brands Monday Night Raw & Smackdown, NXT...he hasn't been part of it and he hasn't been around for a year...there is NEW regime that has taken over now, new faces...The new owners are TKO & Endeavor, the same home of UFC. The man who runs Monday Night Raw and Smackdown, NXT is Triple H and Shawn Michaels. They sign legends to WWE deals, basically they get paid each month like a retirement check, and get money from reselling their merchandises, and pay them for appearances, and they welcome them back to fold... it's a totally different company now. Ken Shamrock deserve it, and Hall Of Fame induction. The reason he got sign is because they are preparing to induct him. Ken Shamrock doesn't have to associate with Vince McMahon because he is not the boss anymore so he can freely talk about him.
@@SP2Crazy Ooh I see okay, I had no idea people who comment on Vladtv were WWE fans ... sorry I totally thought you were a none watcher or some of them people who say " Dang i haven't watched WWE since was like 9 or 10, when the Rock was wrestling." I didn't know WWE fans are here...well I'm a fan too so I'm a little shook I found one here.😂
I'm always going to love Vince McMahon for what he has done for wrestling. But this man has done things that are pretty evil and needs to be in jail and locked up. Covering Jimmy Snuka murdering his girlfriend, Owen Hart's tragic accident, having hundreds of wrestler's take steroids and more than 40 died because of it. Now with sex trafficking. This needs to stop and needs to spend the last 5 to 10 years of his life in jail.
lol why is everybody so addicted to taking a powerful person down nowadays? Those men signed up for the WWF/WWE knowing what could happen in those matches why is it Vince’s fault ?
@@Dayxh8 Because everyone wants to point at the bad guy and say "thats the bad guy and im the good guy for pointing out the bad guy". Unearned moral superiority. We tear down people who tried to do good or have done good and judge them, not on the good, but the mistakes they have made. If we are only ever going to judge people on the mistake they make what's the point of even trying to do good?
New Jack can't say nothing that vince McMahon got blood on his hands when he literally tried to seriously injure and/or kill a man in the wrestling ring. New jack should have been in the bottom of a jail cell for some of the things he did.
I’m still amazed this scandal is finally popping up, I’ve always knew Vince was a disgrace from the wrestlers he had beef with and the amount of pretty women kept coming in and disappearing from the company, the female wrestler (Ashley) was a prefect example of what Vince was doing and he literally fired her on live tv and destroyed her life and killed herself fr nobody believing her, 😢
Ken. If someone dies at work, work is responsible because it happened at work while they were on the clock. Everything is scripted and is happening on company time. Ultimately, work is responsible
Owen Harts death is really fishy. After the Montreal Screw job Bret spit in Vince’s face and knocked him out. Vince’s excuse as to why that couldn’t be real was. “He worked for the WWF we wanted to make him a star…” But anyone who was watching around that time knew Vince was making a mockery of Owen’s characters on purpose. Just weird.
All the things Vince has done to women on screen during the Divas era, other things he's done creative wise and mocking God and doing disrespectful things in the catholic church...its Karma
Vince was to blame for owen death. he purposely hired the cheapest person he could find to be i charge of the rigging system owen was using and in the lawsuit they found out the guy had no qualifications vince simply hired a guy and said here lower this guy to the ring. how is that at all owens fault? i think ken has been hit in the head too many times.
Needs an Outside Investigation going decades. Pat Patterson, Steroids, Owen, Painkillers, Sex Trafficking employees who knew why the top guys were the top guys (they kept their mouths shut)
Owen was supposed to win the IC title from godfather the night he died, he’s that supposed to be vince burying him, still to this day alot is to be told about what really happened that night. No one knows except vince himself, whether he planned the accident after owen trying to kill his top star steve austin in the ring and the accident happening right after the bret hart departure and lawsuit, also owen being afraid of heights and not wanting to do the entrance and vince insisting he should do it from even a far higher spot than it was supposed to be. Alot to be told and alot is still hidden and probably we’ll never get to know the real story. RIP Owen Hart
And Owen died for that. Owen was building his dream home at the time. He told Vince over and over again that he didn’t feel safe doing this. And he died.
Possibly. But a Lot of folks don't realize that Owen came up with the original idea for blue blazer. He wanted to be his own wrestler apart from the Hart legacy
I don't care but i wholeheartedly disagree with him on the Owen Hart thing. He might've not been fully responsible but as the boss and CEO of the company especially when you had the man to do the stunt you better double check even triple check that its safe and good to go so he will be ok. Vince could have made better precautions for that stunt Owen did because if you know the details then you know someone failed him at keeping him safe and thats why people like Owens wife can blame him and all who overseeing him in that. I guess we shouldn't blame Vince about tye Ashley Massero incident either even after all these allegations especially the recent one of Vince McMahon and his right hand man. But i guess everyone forgot about that.
Ashley didn't get what she deserved. An uproar should've happened and I wish wwe cared about the women talent. Ive seen triple h doing that better but this should be handled much better. Ashley got drugged and raped and no one cared. They should've tracked the fucker down and had him killed or done everything they could to ruin him and expose him.
If you hire people who rig stunts for years without incident and then THEY changed the setup for the stunt without you knowing and it goes bad..... how the fuck can you say vince could have prevented it or done better? It was a PPV, vince was busy all day with everything else that needed to go on, no human being can check the work of every single person all day!!! Bobby Talbot the rigger was given instructions and thought he could do it safely, he failed. How is vince responsible for that!!
Vince is responsible because he ordered the stunt in the first place as punishment for Owen not wanting to participate in a cheating storyline on air. If Vince wasn’t petty and had never ordered the stunt the rigger would have never needed to come out in the first place. Vince and the company ultimately knew they were responsible which is why they settled
yea plus not only that vince kept pressuring owen that if he didn't come to that stadium for rehearsals he would fire him , either like do the stunt or else you won't be able to feed your family. In all honesty that was pretty fucked up and vince would have the balls to do that to owen right after bret left so in hindsight vince knew exactly what he was doing.
Yeah, when someone undermines the sport, lies, takes bribes, and has fake fights and then people pay good money to see it I think it's fraud. U gargling ken's sack is laughable. read his book. He's a huge pos and admits it@@MansMan42069
I like Ken, but he's messed up. Look at him sitting there twitching like they pulled the plug on his respirator. Definitely suffered some neurological damage from his fighting career and looks terrible for a man in his late 50's.
It's really sad that people are so dilapidated that they actually think Ken Shamrock is siding with Vince in regards to the Owen Hart situation. I mean, did anyone actually THINK first, or did they just response to stimuli? He is talking about people dying from using steroids and it was *CRYSTAL CLEAR* that was what he was referring to. Many of the wrestlers in the WWF the were known to use steroids were already using them before they even came to the WWF and they were LEGAL "at the time." Remember, Vince built his roster by scooping people from other people's federations. Everyone that was a star in the WWF in the 80s were already a star in another territory first. So, blaming him for choices that they made before they were even in his company and when they were in his company is brick stupid. Vince has more than enough he is ACTUALLY responsible for that is indefensible. You don't need to make up stuff. Vince has responsibility for the death of Owen Hart because Owen didn't want to do that stunt in the first place, he had no business up there, and there is more than enough evidence to suggest that it wasn't an "accident," but to listen to this come from New Jack of all people is rich. This guy has a lengthy criminal-record and has stabbed more than one person severely with knives, being charged multiple times to which each situation he argued that act was "part of the show." You can't have your cake and eat it too. You can blame Vince for Owen's death. You can blame Vince for the LOOONNNG list of people sexually assaulted and abused in WWE over the years by HIM and others. You can blame him for covering-up the murder situation with Jimmy 'Superfly' Snuka (and the cops who took the money. You can't let _them_ off either.) However, people dying from the effects of drug abuse, sorry. That's on them. I'll just call it like it is. No one forced them to pop a pill or have someone stick a needle in there butts. This idea that we get to go through life and intentionally make poor decisions time and time and time again and each and EVERY time it is someone else's fault and not yours, and you do not have to take ANY responsibility for your actions........is satanic. *PERIOD, POINT BLANK.*
The same excuse could be made about this woman at the centre of the scandal right now to be fair. She was getting paid 3 million bucks hush money, and the only reason we’re hearing about this shit now is cause Vince stiffed her. Don’t get me wrong, McMahon is a piece of shit, but come on. She was quite happy to let Vince literally shit on her if he paid her enough.
You know that girl easily could have sent texts from his phone to hers while he was sleep. Did it happen that way idk. But after he got all that money this happened. Innocent till proven guilty.
In reference to Owen Harts death "how do you blame someone for something you do to yourself? Ffs its a pretty well known fact that Owen wasnt a fan of that stunt and didn't really want to do it. Does he think Owen is the one calling shots on whats about to go down on tv? Acting like in all his time with the company, all the shit he did was his own ideas and nobody was in his ear woth what they needed him to do. Gtfoh. Ofcourse vince has to take some responsibility. Did he intentionally kill a min? Ofcourse not. But when someone dies on their job, unless they were found to be under some kind of influence - ofcourse the company and owner has to be held responsible. That was about an ignorant quote on his part and I actually respect the guy
He said he was a POS for going on with the show and he was right. He had money to burn. All he had to do was pay off people and he brushed it right off
In this case if Janel grant feels this way now and coming out now with these allegations? Why did she wait so long wtf??? I guess these days times r hard and people need money lol I hope she doesn't get shyt and Vince McMahon gets cleared of all accusations
I heard Owen didn't like the idea of being on that harness. So Vince had to have known and still moved forward with it. Then the guy who rigged it was not a pro from what I heard. Vince allowed that hire. Then the material on the harness was subpar. Additionally, it is speculated Owen was saddled with that gimmick as a jab at Bret. Not sure if any of that is true, but if so, it paints a damning picture.
Shamrock speaks as though Vince's behavior is "okay" and should have been expected simply because he is a high powered exec. Not everyone in power abuses it.
I’ve been saying. The reaction to Owen Heart. Doesn’t seem right. It seemed more planned. Watch Jim read shit off his desk like it was scripted. Didn’t seem horrified to me.
I agree with Shamrock. Vince isn’t responsible for wrestlers doing pills and freak accidents. New Jack was ignorant. But the Lawsuit and NDA is a different animal.
Not defending Vince, but New jack is a psychopath. He tried to murder someone during a wrestling match. This was not an angle or storyline. It was a legitimate attempt to kill another wrestler for not wanting to do a spot
If Paul Heyman had a show where a wrestler died, which given their style of wrestling was very much a possibility, he likely would've continued forward with the show. That said, it is shitty regardless, but that's the carny way -- "the show must go on."
I've always questioned Owen Hart's death.. The fact that Bret and Vince had heat, I felt like Bret should've got his brother outta there when he left..
Depending on who you believe Owen did want to leave WWE and join Bret, Jim, and British Bulldog but Vince held him hostage with his contract and refused to let him break it. The other story I've heard is Owen wanted to finish wrestling in WWE and then retire.
So Owen Hart coming down the rafters 50 feet was something Owen did to himself? When he was asked to do it by Vince Russo... GTFOH, Owen Hart didnt need to be the Blue Blazer.... He didnt need to come down 50 feet.... I wish he would have just gone to WCW...
Owen wasn’t asking for it. Vince didn’t let everyone grieve for a couple of days. There should have been a pause. It’s amazing how ECW was hardcore yet no one ever died, yet it happened in WWE.
Ken, Owen didn't even drink. He deserved way better. His fall was from a badly planned entrance. That is Vince's fault no matter how you slice it.
ECW's 'Mass Transit' Incident...the kid involved damn near died and probably passed early due to that situation.
@@PFlaw317all due respect to that young man, but he died cause he was fat and depressed. 2 things that he is total control in
@@FighterMindset2024he almost died because a psycho tried to murder him.
@@adamirishconundrum851 I’ll still put 90% on being severely overweight and unhealthy
Vince has blood on his hands .. that man ain’t lying.
& shit on them too lol
@@mr.i6527 Vince "The Dumpster" McMahon 🤣
@@mr.i6527💀
@@mr.i6527Those texts made me dry heave.
@@mr.i6527🧻
By now shamrock looks like the younger brother of robert de niro
Crap, I clicked on the thumbnail to go and make that exact comment. I did figure that someone had beat me to it. Good show :-)
I couldn’t figure out what it was and you nailed it 😂😂
Lol. You beat me to it. The resemblance is definitely there tho! Lol
Action movie version of the old dude from UP
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I still don't understand how the police didn't stop the show after Owen's accident. A man died on the job site.
Because that could potentially cause a crowd outrage leading to potentially more deaths if there's a riot or stampede.
@@realtalk6195 haha, " I don't care a man died, I need my rasslin!!🤣
@@realtalk6195there'd be no riot. These are respectful Kansas city citizens who understand how horrible an accident like that is.
Masons don’t drop rituals my man…
Well Ken your not the sharpest tool in the shed. As Vince Shitman once said.
The idea that owen harts death wasn't preventable by Vince is absolutely ludicrous
how was it preventable! Since you know so much , why not share the details of what you say. Car accidents are also preventable if people dont drive but as we see, its better if people drive from point A to B
Nah he was only foul for making him go up while having a fear of heights and keeping the show going.
If you actually read interviews from the people there and involved and who set it up you would learn vince didn't have anything to do with the story being written, the rigging team setting up the cable or the execution of the stunt that night.
Ultimate responsibility with him? Sure. Because he hired the people who hired the crew.
But he didn't have the input on the stunt and for you to just tee off and say he does just shows how little of a clue you have about the whole ordeal.
@@HeywoodJablowme7yeah I remember the Owen Hart documentary his wife said that the harness was cheap they could have used a different one but it was someone's incompetence that cost Owen his life
@andrewsmith3257 the clip wasn't cheap, it was the wrong clip to ever use for a stunt. There was no backup clip because the stunt called for none for the stunt to work. The clip didn't break it was triggered early by mistake.
Ever wonder why noone did go to jail? Because they settled out of court for cash when they knew it would be impossible to prove culpability.
Vince Russo was contacted by a rigging crew, he wrote the stunt to call for a comedic landing. Russo ASSUMED that the riggers who had done it for years could do it safely as they had performed stunts for sting.
The rigger was given instructions, he followed them. He rigged the stunt for the desired effect which meant no backup. He points finger at wwe, wwe point finger back.
If anyone truly was responsible it should have been the rigger, he should of told them the instructions they gave him were too dangerous and shouldn't be attempted. He didn't. He assumed he could rig the stunt and have it done safely. They did a rehearsal trial once with it before the show and it went fine.
Owen's instructions were as long as you don't pull the cord early you're fine. The thought is while he was fixing his Cape to get comfortable, the Cape caught onto the cord and triggered the release.
The cable didn't break, it was activated. Vince mcmahon for all his faults had absolutely nothing to do with the story written or setting up the rigging for it. He would have been busy and left everyone who were "professionals" to do their job.
Is Vince ultimately responsible? Yes because it was his company that employed Russo and hired the riggers but as for the actual responsible for setting up the stunt? Even the most hardened hater of Vince couldn't agree with that.
New Jack was spot on. Vince pressured Owen to do that stunt against Owen's objections, and hired the company that rigged Owen in a defective mechanism. If that's not an element of responsibility then I don't know what is.
New Jack isn’t wrong 🤷🏼♂️
He was not
No he ain't wrong. But new jack has purposely ended careers as well
@TraxxJamez2088 I understand your point but let's be real here New Jack didn't have any room to talk AT ALL homie was legit F'up himself
@@anthonytucker8913 who’s? Vick Grimes?
@@TraxxJamez2088 idk
Yep! Vince McMahon is now under investigation for sex trafficking 🤦🏿 my childhood heroes are falling one by one
The way everything is playing out these days are weird
Just remember the hard workers in the ring at least the good ones of those
Why would you worship a celebrity? That's satanic to worship "false idols".
Ye all hero’s fall. Only men
Fabulous Moolah was known to have done it, but she effectively got away with it.
Vince McMahon, "Step into my office Owen, I have a proposal for you. What do you think about dangling from a line 80' above the ring?".
This was the alternative to the story in which Jeff Jarrett caught him in bed with Debra McMichael.
The only reason why Ken Shamrock says all this is because now, signed the Legends deal with WWE in other words he got hush money
Get real. Ken is just talking about his personal experiences with Vince.
To my knowledge Ken don't do too many shoot interviews. The E all but blackballed him and hasn't mentioned him since he left... I don't think he cares about keeping silent at this point.
He's always been a straight shooter.
Also wouldn't there be at least 1 wrestler who "reveals all"?
Also you people who think once someone gives you tons of money you can completely throw your morals out the window is silly. Maybe some people are like that, not Ken. He was tougher than nails and one of the top guys in the UFC back when it had no rules. I don't think you can persuade him to do anything if he doesn't want to do it.
@@JobVanDam I agree
😂Okay... I have to give Vlad some respect. He can bust out a video clip from his library, in reference to ANY possible news story or headline that's trending. Aliens could land tomorrow, and we'll see a TK clip about aliens.
He is the flash bacc King. He needs to be in the record books for that.
New Jack calling Vince a piece of shit is funny
It’s also true
@@sadbwoy97Its also ironic and hypocritical…
@@robertsrt also true 😭
@@robertsrtNew Jack is definitely morally superior to Vince
Shamrock dodged the question. Owen didn't feel comfortable with that spot and Vince wanted it to go on. At the very least they should have canceled the show and given everyone their money back with a guarantee they'd be given the same seats at a different date when they returned.
Right wtf was shamrock even talking about?
Hindsight is 20/20.
Owen SHOULD have said I don't feel comfortable doing this, I'm going to die. It's Owen's fault.
You can make the same argument except Pro Vince.
At the same time Owen could have just said hell no and ran it by one of Vince’s friends in the back or even Taker. We know how having pull works
@@JobVanDam That's not the point. You totally missed what the narrative was about. The only thing pro Vince is that he got someone killed and then had the show anyway. That's the kind of "pro" Vince is.
@@damikey85 How do you know he didn't? Somebody died. At that point the man in charge should have said, Enough. We're canceling the show. He didn't.
A future dark side of the ring episode
*A whole full season.
New Jack calling someone a piece of shit is really ironic. I guess it’s a perfect example of takes one to know one.
What he did to that fat kid was disgusting gore wrestling 😭
What he did to that fat kid was disgusting gore wrestling 😭
What he did to that fat kid was disgusting gore wrestling 😭
Finally someone who speaks English.
Lucy worshipping bot spotted
The way new jack said it so fast was hilarious
Vince was nice to Ken cause Ken was a real fighter.
I forgot which wrestler said it, but it was along the lines of “If it was Shane McMahon that died that night instead of Owen, Vince would of stopped the show.”
That was Bret hart that said that..
No vince would have continued the show no matter who died
@@MinuteManGameReviews thank you
Ken still looks good for his age.
That's your take-away?
Lmao@@NiGiff
True, damn good. No homo.
He looks rough but I still wouldn't try to fight him. Fighting Shamrock= death.
You like men
Ken Shamrock : i wanna retire ... Vince Mcturd: can i show you my lucky charms?
First live WWE show I ever went to, I didn’t expect it but when Vince walked out and his music hit, I was the most excited about that. The rock and stone cold were still there at the time too. Vince stole the show in my opinion. His character was great. Tough to hear these new allegations.
Considering theres been allegations from murder to drugs to rape since the 80s this isnt surprising -- Shamrock was right, it's just now known cause they were all paid. Sure Vince is now confirmed a real life bastard but that doesnt really turn any head away from Grant after only speaking when the money was done
New jack. Aint lying 👋💯
That mf was a hypocrite when he almost killed a few dudes in the ring legit but yeah I guess he ain't lying
My problem is when someone says, "He's never done anything to me/hes always treated me well." So that means it's okay if he abuses and takes advantage of other people? And no, Owen Hart and the ring girls did not "do it to themselves." Sorry, but Ken would not make a good witness to the truth if someone else was victimized. The "Nasty Boys" always treated me well....
Shamrock is tweakin’ like Robert DeNiro on crack! 😜
Yeah, noticed that as well. My dad was on meth for around 6 months when I was a kid and he'd constantly lick his lips like that and couldn't sit still for even 3 seconds.
I dear you to say to his face
@@highlanstar1That's what I was thinking.
CTE effects are similar. Hes in remarkably good condition compared to Mayweather Sr. Greg Haugen, Freddie Roach etc
If it were 'no secret' then everyone who knew should be ashamed of themselves.
I know . Like everyone just throw Vince under! We didn’t do anything. Yeah right! There’s way more ppl. & I’ve never trusted Brock!
Ken looks like the singer Morrissey
i never seen that untill just now lol
Real ninjas know
Ken just recently signed a deal with WWE though 😂
It's a legends deal ...Vince McMahon hasn't been associated with WWE in months now...he has been gone for the past year.
Today He just had to resign from being one of the share holder...and leave for good.
But when it pretains to WWE brands Monday Night Raw & Smackdown, NXT...he hasn't been part of it and he hasn't been around for a year...there is NEW regime that has taken over now, new faces...The new owners are TKO & Endeavor, the same home of UFC.
The man who runs Monday Night Raw and Smackdown, NXT is Triple H and Shawn Michaels.
They sign legends to WWE deals, basically they get paid each month like a retirement check, and get money from reselling their merchandises, and pay them for appearances, and they welcome them back to fold... it's a totally different company now.
Ken Shamrock deserve it, and Hall Of Fame induction.
The reason he got sign is because they are preparing to induct him.
Ken Shamrock doesn't have to associate with Vince McMahon because he is not the boss anymore so he can freely talk about him.
@@ReneRamirez-d9h Well aware of all of this before, but I appreciate you breaking this down thoroughly as well!
@@SP2Crazy I'm sorry mybad I had no idea you were aware of it.
@@ReneRamirez-d9h huge WWE fan so I tend to keep up with the news, with the Vince stuff it’s kind of hard not to
@@SP2Crazy Ooh I see okay, I had no idea people who comment on Vladtv were WWE fans ... sorry I totally thought you were a none watcher or some of them people who say " Dang i haven't watched WWE since was like 9 or 10, when the Rock was wrestling."
I didn't know WWE fans are here...well I'm a fan too so I'm a little shook I found one here.😂
Vince has Blood on his hands. Let's not forget the situation with Super Fly, BITD.
I forgot about superfly
Or the Pat Patterson stuff.
Shamrock doesn't care. Vince was nice to him so he could murder families as long as its not shamrock.
I'm always going to love Vince McMahon for what he has done for wrestling. But this man has done things that are pretty evil and needs to be in jail and locked up. Covering Jimmy Snuka murdering his girlfriend, Owen Hart's tragic accident, having hundreds of wrestler's take steroids and more than 40 died because of it. Now with sex trafficking. This needs to stop and needs to spend the last 5 to 10 years of his life in jail.
He ruined wrestling. It was much better before he took control
@@menzere2009hhahahahahaha, you can't be serious......you can't be. He put wrestling literally on everyone's map
lol why is everybody so addicted to taking a powerful person down nowadays? Those men signed up for the WWF/WWE knowing what could happen in those matches why is it Vince’s fault ?
If he ain’t guilty then u can say u don’t like him for wat u assume he did
@@Dayxh8 Because everyone wants to point at the bad guy and say "thats the bad guy and im the good guy for pointing out the bad guy". Unearned moral superiority.
We tear down people who tried to do good or have done good and judge them, not on the good, but the mistakes they have made.
If we are only ever going to judge people on the mistake they make what's the point of even trying to do good?
New Jack can't say nothing that vince McMahon got blood on his hands when he literally tried to seriously injure and/or kill a man in the wrestling ring. New jack should have been in the bottom of a jail cell for some of the things he did.
I’m still amazed this scandal is finally popping up, I’ve always knew Vince was a disgrace from the wrestlers he had beef with and the amount of pretty women kept coming in and disappearing from the company, the female wrestler (Ashley) was a prefect example of what Vince was doing and he literally fired her on live tv and destroyed her life and killed herself fr nobody believing her, 😢
Ken. If someone dies at work, work is responsible because it happened at work while they were on the clock. Everything is scripted and is happening on company time. Ultimately, work is responsible
Owen Harts death is really fishy. After the Montreal Screw job Bret spit in Vince’s face and knocked him out. Vince’s excuse as to why that couldn’t be real was. “He worked for the WWF we wanted to make him a star…” But anyone who was watching around that time knew Vince was making a mockery of Owen’s characters on purpose. Just weird.
Always thought Eddie and Chris were silenced
Silenced for what though?
All the things Vince has done to women on screen during the Divas era, other things he's done creative wise and mocking God and doing disrespectful things in the catholic church...its Karma
2:05🤣🤣🤣 i miss newjack man,rest in peace
Vince was to blame for owen death. he purposely hired the cheapest person he could find to be i charge of the rigging system owen was using and in the lawsuit they found out the guy had no qualifications vince simply hired a guy and said here lower this guy to the ring. how is that at all owens fault? i think ken has been hit in the head too many times.
Needs an Outside Investigation going decades. Pat Patterson, Steroids, Owen, Painkillers, Sex Trafficking employees who knew why the top guys were the top guys (they kept their mouths shut)
Owen was supposed to win the IC title from godfather the night he died, he’s that supposed to be vince burying him, still to this day alot is to be told about what really happened that night. No one knows except vince himself, whether he planned the accident after owen trying to kill his top star steve austin in the ring and the accident happening right after the bret hart departure and lawsuit, also owen being afraid of heights and not wanting to do the entrance and vince insisting he should do it from even a far higher spot than it was supposed to be. Alot to be told and alot is still hidden and probably we’ll never get to know the real story. RIP Owen Hart
Vince wanted Owen to go through the blue blazer gimmick and fly like a superhero otherwise his career will be threaten
And Owen died for that. Owen was building his dream home at the time. He told Vince over and over again that he didn’t feel safe doing this. And he died.
Possibly. But a Lot of folks don't realize that Owen came up with the original idea for blue blazer. He wanted to be his own wrestler apart from the Hart legacy
I don't care but i wholeheartedly disagree with him on the Owen Hart thing. He might've not been fully responsible but as the boss and CEO of the company especially when you had the man to do the stunt you better double check even triple check that its safe and good to go so he will be ok. Vince could have made better precautions for that stunt Owen did because if you know the details then you know someone failed him at keeping him safe and thats why people like Owens wife can blame him and all who overseeing him in that. I guess we shouldn't blame Vince about tye Ashley Massero incident either even after all these allegations especially the recent one of Vince McMahon and his right hand man. But i guess everyone forgot about that.
Ashley didn't get what she deserved. An uproar should've happened and I wish wwe cared about the women talent. Ive seen triple h doing that better but this should be handled much better. Ashley got drugged and raped and no one cared. They should've tracked the fucker down and had him killed or done everything they could to ruin him and expose him.
If you hire people who rig stunts for years without incident and then THEY changed the setup for the stunt without you knowing and it goes bad..... how the fuck can you say vince could have prevented it or done better?
It was a PPV, vince was busy all day with everything else that needed to go on, no human being can check the work of every single person all day!!!
Bobby Talbot the rigger was given instructions and thought he could do it safely, he failed. How is vince responsible for that!!
Shamrock still Kussi g d mcmahon a..Sss.. wants a few extr paychecks.
Vince is responsible because he ordered the stunt in the first place as punishment for Owen not wanting to participate in a cheating storyline on air. If Vince wasn’t petty and had never ordered the stunt the rigger would have never needed to come out in the first place. Vince and the company ultimately knew they were responsible which is why they settled
yea plus not only that vince kept pressuring owen that if he didn't come to that stadium for rehearsals he would fire him , either like do the stunt or else you won't be able to feed your family. In all honesty that was pretty fucked up and vince would have the balls to do that to owen right after bret left so in hindsight vince knew exactly what he was doing.
Funny how words like that can come from someone like New Jack. New Jack is more psycho than Vince.
Ken shamrock is a legend . Love to hear him talk .
A "legend" with more worked fights than real ones. And I'm not talking about WWE. Rich franklin, Bart Vale, Kimbo Slice, Kimo, the list goes on.
Except in this case. Ken is wrong
@@dealerslicenseopsLmao umad?
Yeah, when someone undermines the sport, lies, takes bribes, and has fake fights and then people pay good money to see it I think it's fraud. U gargling ken's sack is laughable. read his book. He's a huge pos and admits it@@MansMan42069
Yeah Ken, "Vince is no angel and you don't know him or don't hang out with him", but you're confident he could do no wrong.
Wrestling has always been like this behind the scenes. It’s just now it’s coming out to the public and everybody is mortified.
But don't forget the Steriod trials of the 80's , Rita Chatterton ,the Ring - Boy Scandal, this isn't that new, but now he's getting consequences .
Ken is old school like me, I understand where he is coming from. Nice to see him again.
I wish Ken Shamrock would come back to WWE, The Guy is such a Badass,with one of the most Badass entrance themes ever In my opinion.
I like Ken, but he's messed up. Look at him sitting there twitching like they pulled the plug on his respirator. Definitely suffered some neurological damage from his fighting career and looks terrible for a man in his late 50's.
He’s too old and shop worn from wrestling and mma.
3mill to be quiet?? Jeezzzz.
VladTV ALWAYS bringing up Flashbacks upon real time breaking news... 🤣
It's really sad that people are so dilapidated that they actually think Ken Shamrock is siding with Vince in regards to the Owen Hart situation. I mean, did anyone actually THINK first, or did they just response to stimuli? He is talking about people dying from using steroids and it was *CRYSTAL CLEAR* that was what he was referring to.
Many of the wrestlers in the WWF the were known to use steroids were already using them before they even came to the WWF and they were LEGAL "at the time." Remember, Vince built his roster by scooping people from other people's federations. Everyone that was a star in the WWF in the 80s were already a star in another territory first. So, blaming him for choices that they made before they were even in his company and when they were in his company is brick stupid. Vince has more than enough he is ACTUALLY responsible for that is indefensible. You don't need to make up stuff.
Vince has responsibility for the death of Owen Hart because Owen didn't want to do that stunt in the first place, he had no business up there, and there is more than enough evidence to suggest that it wasn't an "accident," but to listen to this come from New Jack of all people is rich. This guy has a lengthy criminal-record and has stabbed more than one person severely with knives, being charged multiple times to which each situation he argued that act was "part of the show." You can't have your cake and eat it too.
You can blame Vince for Owen's death. You can blame Vince for the LOOONNNG list of people sexually assaulted and abused in WWE over the years by HIM and others. You can blame him for covering-up the murder situation with Jimmy 'Superfly' Snuka (and the cops who took the money. You can't let _them_ off either.) However, people dying from the effects of drug abuse, sorry. That's on them. I'll just call it like it is. No one forced them to pop a pill or have someone stick a needle in there butts. This idea that we get to go through life and intentionally make poor decisions time and time and time again and each and EVERY time it is someone else's fault and not yours, and you do not have to take ANY responsibility for your actions........is satanic.
*PERIOD, POINT BLANK.*
New jack wasn’t even in WWE at that time lol
Vince McMahon- What would your mother say?
The same excuse could be made about this woman at the centre of the scandal right now to be fair. She was getting paid 3 million bucks hush money, and the only reason we’re hearing about this shit now is cause Vince stiffed her.
Don’t get me wrong, McMahon is a piece of shit, but come on. She was quite happy to let Vince literally shit on her if he paid her enough.
Vince is just another rich entitled person that got caught. Hope he gets exactly what he deserves.
You know that girl easily could have sent texts from his phone to hers while he was sleep. Did it happen that way idk. But after he got all that money this happened. Innocent till proven guilty.
In reference to Owen Harts death "how do you blame someone for something you do to yourself?
Ffs its a pretty well known fact that Owen wasnt a fan of that stunt and didn't really want to do it. Does he think Owen is the one calling shots on whats about to go down on tv? Acting like in all his time with the company, all the shit he did was his own ideas and nobody was in his ear woth what they needed him to do.
Gtfoh. Ofcourse vince has to take some responsibility. Did he intentionally kill a min? Ofcourse not. But when someone dies on their job, unless they were found to be under some kind of influence - ofcourse the company and owner has to be held responsible. That was about an ignorant quote on his part and I actually respect the guy
He said he was a POS for going on with the show and he was right. He had money to burn. All he had to do was pay off people and he brushed it right off
Bill Cosby and Vince McMahon. Two of my heroes in my childhood who have had their images tarnished.
@@km11wpg notice how Shane got the hell away from him and started his own business
@@It_is_what_it_is63 Yes True and Vince's wife Linda knew better too.
Bruh New Jacks head looks like it got scraped against a wall lol.
Vlad just used this flashback last week...
Show us on the doll where vlad hurt you
@@Tech_-on1ou didn't know you two were dating... My apologies ma'am.
@@mr.joshua6818 stay pressed lil homie
Yeah but we here now
This was edited deceptively. Shamrock was referring to "blood on (McMahon's) hands" as taking steroids, not Owen's death
I wonder if Ashley Massaro was another Victim if Vince!? 🤔
Not only that but it's other deaths ignored by wwe that I find kinda fishy.
Bro I used to fuckin love me some Ken Shamrock back in the attitude era.
Was Owen's Blue Blazer - gimmick a kinda punishment for injuring Steve Austin?
Hope not cuz I don't think Owen meant to do that. I felt bad for Austin 😔
No, it was because Owen didn't want to do a storyline on which he was messing around with Debra because of his wife and kids.
I heard Owen was gonna be the game instead of triple h before he died
Vince Russo was a fan of The Blue Blazer and Owen didn't want to do a cheating story with Debra.
In this case if Janel grant feels this way now and coming out now with these allegations? Why did she wait so long wtf??? I guess these days times r hard and people need money lol I hope she doesn't get shyt and Vince McMahon gets cleared of all accusations
All these guys that allegedly aren’t friends with Vince like Cornette and Shamrock always go easy on Vince like he’s a mafia boss. Wait…
This totally makes sense as Ken has never been mentioned in the Vince era after he left. Now we know why
I heard Owen didn't like the idea of being on that harness. So Vince had to have known and still moved forward with it. Then the guy who rigged it was not a pro from what I heard. Vince allowed that hire. Then the material on the harness was subpar. Additionally, it is speculated Owen was saddled with that gimmick as a jab at Bret. Not sure if any of that is true, but if so, it paints a damning picture.
Shamrock wants a 2025 HoF spot 😅
I just want to know if that is Ken's Tube Tech or Vlad's?
Rest in Peace King Owen
Damn we want the Netflix doc
Great idea senhor 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Crimes should not be covered up w NDAs
Shamrock speaks as though Vince's behavior is "okay" and should have been expected simply because he is a high powered exec. Not everyone in power abuses it.
No, but many do.
I’ve been saying. The reaction to Owen Heart. Doesn’t seem right. It seemed more planned. Watch Jim read shit off his desk like it was scripted. Didn’t seem horrified to me.
"He was nice to me" is a total cop out.
I agree with Shamrock. Vince isn’t responsible for wrestlers doing pills and freak accidents. New Jack was ignorant. But the Lawsuit and NDA is a different animal.
If no one thought Vince was a piece of 💩 then, I bet they feel different now after his current allegations! 😂😂😂
Not defending Vince, but New jack is a psychopath. He tried to murder someone during a wrestling match. This was not an angle or storyline. It was a legitimate attempt to kill another wrestler for not wanting to do a spot
If Paul Heyman had a show where a wrestler died, which given their style of wrestling was very much a possibility, he likely would've continued forward with the show. That said, it is shitty regardless, but that's the carny way -- "the show must go on."
Saying Owen taking accountability is WILD
With Vince, they weren't affairs.
Love Ken Shamrock!
New Jack calling someone a piece of shit Really talk about "the pot calling the kettle black"......
More Shamrock interviews! Sick of aries spears complaining.
New Jack is the last guy I wanna hear talk about someone else being a piece of $hit
I dare you to call Shamrock a liar
New Jack complaining that Vince has blood on his hands?
Is Shamrock tweaking? He was twitching his mouth like crazy prior to speaking.
Damn when i see childhood favorite wrestlers turn grey hair i feel so old , it doesnt feels attitude era happened more than 2 decades ago
I've always questioned Owen Hart's death.. The fact that Bret and Vince had heat, I felt like Bret should've got his brother outta there when he left..
Depending on who you believe Owen did want to leave WWE and join Bret, Jim, and British Bulldog but Vince held him hostage with his contract and refused to let him break it. The other story I've heard is Owen wanted to finish wrestling in WWE and then retire.
So Owen Hart coming down the rafters 50 feet was something Owen did to himself? When he was asked to do it by Vince Russo... GTFOH, Owen Hart didnt need to be the Blue Blazer.... He didnt need to come down 50 feet.... I wish he would have just gone to WCW...
Why is Ed O'Neal talking about WWE?
Damn Vince done
Saw shamrock in Vegas airport dude is still ripped to shit
They all admitted how hard it was to go on after Owens death
I still want to hear from Kurt angle, stone cold, the rock and undertaker about this. They've been quiet and they need to say something
Watching New Jack in a suite. WOW. I could never see him in something like that.
Vince smashed allot of WWE Divas and
Female Employees.
A lot, not allot.
It's sad that when they are all out of hush money they come out years later because they need more money.