Gorbel Jib Crane Installation Part 2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ม.ค. 2022
- We'll complete the install of our Gorbel 2 ton jib crane. I'll assemble all of the components onto the boom and then raise up with the forklift and bolt it in place. Everything will be completed with the exception of electrical but that will follow very soon. This will be my shop crane used to load and unload materials into machines, moving heavy work holding tools, parts, jobs and anything that requires some lifting aid.
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As an Ironworker or 18 years I flinched when she put her hand on top of the iron there. Touchy forklifts can take finger quick. Glad it worked out. What a nice shop.
Yeah, I was hollering at the monitor for her to get her hands away from the work area. I've seen a lot in my 42 years too.
When Abby put her hand on top of the beam mount I almost died.
Ex forklift mechanic here, I've seen too many accidents but glad you guys got it done safely.
Same. "Come towards me!" Them fingers could have gone pop. Be careful out there friends ❤
@@yohell MY HANDS WERE SWEATING!
Agree, I was cringing when I saw her hand in-between that beam and the head. If something had happened bad things would have occurred. Abby if you read this, make sure always keep your hands safely away and out of areas between two heavy objects, if you must be in there use a tool not your hands. Ya'll got it done but definitely got lucky. Be Safe!
JG
every time I SCREAMED GET YOU HAND OUT OF THERE, SHE DID. Glad she could hear me!
I'm with you brother...
I cringed too!
I knew I wasn't the only one screaming. lol
@@Popson2wheels I was shouting as well, at one point I thought she going to put her finger in the bolt hole.
@@derekwilkinson7939 Because that's where they go ,RIGHT? LOL!
Oh man. Abby's fingers wrapped around that beam around 30:00 as you were moving in and my eyes got so big. So glad no one lost any fingers!
29:08 - who else was thinking "just one slip and her hand is gone".... That was a buttpucker moment.
I was like MOVE YOUR HAND!!! MY anxiety went thru the roof!!
Yes, she should have grabbed the sides of the box to swivel it, her hands well away from the pinch point.
I sometimes talk to the people in the videos, but when Abby had her hand on the boom support I was screaming get your hand out!!! Looks good and hopefully an omen of good things starting for you and this new year!
Do they ever talk back?
Long time subscriber. First time commenting on anything. Abby spotting the crane with her fingers inside made me cringe. She Could easily have lost all her fingers. Have her watch the video. Really like your work.
Swinging after the bell -- two useful tools when working high: A rigger's spud wrench, great for aligning bolt holes; tool tethers to keep the tools from falling all the way down. Great job putting everything together.
Please, please warn Abby about pinch points. She's a trooper, but it was scary to watch her reach over that edge. Not criticizing either of you, just concerned for her safety.
I was screaming at the top of my lungs get your fingers out of there! she got my heart rate going. Abby we like your hair style. One step closer to a open Shop!
Oh Abby, I was so scared for your fingers !! 😱 You’d be amazed at how many accidents have happened like this !
"PINCH POINTS ABBY" 🤣
29:08
"LIVE LOAD ADAM DON'T STAND BENEATH"
31:18
Loved the video guys.
Adam, I really like your video, I have been following both of your channels for years. I know how easy it is to point out things that not right. Sorry but. The way you put the clamp on cable is backwards. For what your doing it's not life threating. There is a real good chance it will come loose over time. Remember in rigging for lifting use two clamps per side, And don't put a saddle on the tail of the horse.( The old saying) Don't saddle a dead Horse. My hope this information keeps you or someone else safe in the future. keep up the good content, Love you work.
Adam, please remember, never saddle a dead horse, your cable clamps are on backwards. A little ironworker memory. Love your videos keep them coming.
glad abbi still has hands!
LOL my wife is looking at me like I'm crazy yelling "GET YOUR HAND OUT OF THERE" at the TV.
Abby! Pinch Points! You gave me a heart attack ever time you placed your fingers on the top of the post while you were lining up the holes😲😲
Great video, you guys are a good team :)
I always teach my apprentices when using Crosby clips "never saddle a dead horse". The hasp crimps down on the load bearing side of that wire rope so it should be placed on the excess side so as to prevent damage to the live side. It's what the old timers told me so I pass it on to the youngin's as it comes up. Best wishes
Years ago I worked for a sign company and we had to periodically shorten the load line to avoid wear from the headache ball. That's what we were taught as well. We were also taught to never alternate the clips --- to be sure they were all facing the same "side".
"Sigh" (Algore).. you and 500 other commenters...
That's a better explanation than all this dead horse stuff
That's a clearer explanation than all this dead horse stuff, repeated constantly
Did you teach them how to beat a dead horse? This is mentioned 100’s of times by all the experts in the world
Abby's hand placement around 29:03. Push on sides and NEVER over the top edge. Love your videos ! Always well done.! I'm nearing my 70's here in rural Colo, I've seen a few accidents in my time. Just want you to be careful. :>) Thanks for the vids, and God bless you both !
Nice work, you two kids!
The old telephone company supervisor safety nazi in me did cringe at Abby's hand placement a couple of times. A nice spud wrench will help keep hands and fingers from under the load. However, all's well that ends well.
You never saddle a dead horse …but the comments section will sure beat it to death anyway!!! Next time you tell them the cable isn’t pre stretched so it all gets redone down the road anyway as part of the carrier and pulley inspection and maintenance…and you tell them with confidence !! Thanks for sharing … you made me proud of my lift truck operation and overhead riggings skills!! (Because I don’t get to work with as nice of gear as you)
7:50 "Never saddle a dead horse". The U-bolt should be on the 'Dead End' and the Saddle on the 'Live End'.
I came to say the same thing! That saying has saved me a few times!
Thank you for not making us wait until next week for part 2
It is wonderful how the both of them work together as a team you can see how much they apreciate and help each other out.
Amazing job both of you. Just puckered a bit when she had her fingers curled over the top lip of the crane upright and said to bring the boom arm forwards. She quickly jerked her hand back, but dang.
OMG my nerves can not take fingers being so close to such heavy moving equipment!!!!!
I winced every time Abby wrapped her fingers over the edge of swivel box when you were positioning the beam. Especially at the 30:35 mark when you moved the forklift. Cheers
Hey Adam, you should put down a yellow safety line on the floor to mark the outside radius, or reach, of the crane. For one, people will know that they themselves are in reach of the crane, and also when you have a heavy part on a pallet or cart you know where you have to park it in order to reach with the crane.
Or you can just look up.
The wedge washers as you called them should go under the head of the bolt, they are designed to follow the slope up on the inside of the web. They are called “hillside washers”. (Used on structural steel)
I wanted to scream at Abby about where she placed her fingers! She had them in a potential pinch point between the moving steel beam and support. Fortunately all went well! Hope it all works as intended. Enjoy your steak, Abby!
My toes were curling... One important thing to highlight to anyone who doesn't do this as a day job is to warn them of where they place their hands whilst things are manouvering. Some may take it as your babysitting but it's a lot less painful than loosing fingers. Well done to Abby for identifying the issue, always consider where can I possibly lose digits(fingers) or limbs in the process.
I saw her put her hand down and almost jumped out of my seat to grab her and pull her away. 😳 yikes.
Yes, heavy gear is a rat trap. Never put digits in a vice. Ouch!
Those moments with the fingers and then later switching out the pins got me sweating.
I just want to say the same thing. I cringed at Abby's fingers, Safety meeting before doing any work. Patrick
Hey Adam, the rollers strike the end stop steel plates above their center line. I think that the edge of the stops is going to knick the rollers and eat into their material/create eccentricities. You might want to grind the paint off the lower 2" of the stops, weld a 3"x3" steel plates to each, and then epoxy some 3"x3" Delrin plates onto said steel. The rollers will have better longevity.
I wonder if Gorbel a) ever encountered it in their entire business life, or b) if it's ever been a problem? Things that make you go Huh!
You scared us all Miss Abby...each time your hand got close to the bottom of the beam while Adam was lowering it, we went crazy. We're OK now, but that was close......GOOD JOB YOU TWO!!!!
The episodes about this crane are especially interesting to me because not only did I wire the machines that made your crane I've wired at least a hundred of their products in the field as well. I worked for electrical contractor in the Rochester New York area for 20 years until last March and gorbel was one of our customers. I've done tons of work at their facility and they make a great product and it was so interesting to see how they pretty much do everything in house from making the I beams, assembling the control cabinets and even painting is done at their plant. It would make a great factory tour
Adam, when it comes to wire rope and wire clamps......."you never saddle a dead horse". Meaning the saddle belongs on the main wire, not the end of the wire. Hope makes sense.
I would add that it's not really a load bearing wire, so you're probably fine. Just want to make sure people watching know. ;)
the bulldog grip you put on the wire rope should be fitted with the saddle on the load side.
Never saddle a dead horse!
Abbey always strikes me as a value-add to your channel no matter what capacity she’s participating in. Well done.
Don’t saddle a dead horse !!! See 7:20 minute mark. Not that it would matter much in the case of the wire rope that comprises the tag line, but cable clamps should be installed with the saddle on the live part of the wire rope and the loop part of the clamp on the dead part. The reason being that the clamping loop applies concentrated stress on the rope and you don’t want to do that on the part of the rope that has to carry the full tension. The dead part of the rope eye only has the resist about half of the tension on the main (live) part of the rope, so it doesn’t matter if is feeling a little choked. Love your work Adam. I always learn something from it.
Nice job Adam! Two minor issues however:
- the wedged washers need to go on top, right underneath the bolt head
- the dust seal needs to ride on top of the opening. Forcing it in will damage it over time as it is not designed to operate that way
I’m also happy that Abby did not get hurt. I got shivers all over when she put her hand on the crane while you were moving the beam into position… phew…
My stomach turned when she put her hand in that narrow span of the beam and the base...@ 30:32
Luckily Abby maintained the normal amount of fingers after all. If Abom did the "wrong valve" and tilted forward at just the wrong time, it would have been pretty quick and dirty.
omg , lol I gasped when she put her fingers under it. ~ ! glad it went ok. looks good
Her fingers in there made my toes curl!
7:54 Never saddle a dead horse.
Also I generally put the nut on the more accessible side for tools. The backup wrench (Most of the time, box wrench) goes on the head in the harder area to reach. 4:18
44:45 Great, just lovely. LOL Thanks, made me laugh.
I personally would put washer on the inside of that bracket to lock it up. But it's not essential. You cut the rope kinda short, two crosbys would have been better, but it just for a traveler line, so maybe leave it alone. Don't forget the friction tape to wrap the rope ends.
Probably not going to make any difference, but that clip on the wire rope is installed incorrectly.
The u-bolt part of the clip should be on the dead end of the cable, the saddle should be on the live end where the load is.
"Never saddle a dead horse".
You said it better than I could have!
Need to emphasize importance of keeping hand and fingers clear, I was scared to death
I just got there and physically recoiled when it jerked towards her. Could have easily been a loss of all fingers in an instant.
Agreed. I actual said get your hand out of there, as soon as she grabbed it.
I about had a heart attack when Abby got her hand between the beam and the top pivot.
I was yelling get your hands out of there
Me too!
@@Tule54 Me Three!
Me 4
Love watching your videos, I know this probably doesn't matter for the wright on that wire rope, but always remember... NEVER SADDLE A DEAD HORSE. the live end of the wire rope should be agenized the saddle, the u bolt end should be on the dead end of the cable. Again doesn't matter so much for this project but good to be diligent, espacalay with rigging.
Jeez, does anyone else wanna go on about dead horses. Just congratulate the man on a good job. That rope is hardly under mega tension or carrying major loading. Give the guy a break!! Sure Adam doesn't need 100 comments about dead saddles or whatever.
Great video Adam, good work as always.
Never beat a dead horse. You can only get glue form a dead horse. hah hah! Adam did great. I have saddle sores from ridin' muh horse. Um.....
Great videos ! I always watch never comment! As a Millwright for 23 years I did alot of cable changes on overhead cranes up to 20 Ton! I worked at a lead/ silver smelter for 12 years.
Your Crosby clips are installed backwards. Not a big deal on that cable no load but you do everything perfect so just wanted to point that out! The saying is "never saddle a dead horse" so your dead end of the cable goes through the u bolt side not the saddle side! Great work though from New Brunswick Canada !
Adam your Crosby clips are on backwords you never saddle a dead horse.
I don’t know anything about this stuff and I’m curious if he could add another clamp rather than take the whole thing apart.
I’m never going to get my Saturday chores done. Adam posted another video!👍
Gorbel was the last job I worked before moving from Rochester, NY to Tampa Bay.. Gorbel is located in Fishers, NY. just outside of Rochester and it is a really nice little town.. Also, Gorbel was a great company to work for. I was sort of (on loan) from a Rochester compamy called KBH. Not that this will mean much to anyone, but it's just a bit of trivia for you...
Your cable clamps are on backward. "Never saddle a dead horse" the live end is the load-bearing side, the dead-end is the stub. The U bolt pinches and crushes the cable, you do not want to do that to the load-bearing part of the rope. Another factor, if the rope slips, it will slip on the saddle side and not the Ubolt side as it pinches and deforms the rope.
I was going to say the same thing lol
Great observation and great piece of knowledge with memory jogger for these guys out there in the field.
the Wedge washer goes in between the bolt head and the beam as that is a tapered face you need to refit them correctly then the bolts will not be strained over on thye scunt
@Pete Nikolic : I was wandering if anyone else noticed that. I consider that mistake way more serious than saddling the dead horse (at least in this application).
Abby did a great job, I’m sure she didn’t know to keep her hands clear. But my heart was racing every time I saw her hands.
The amount of support you get from your wife is incredible that's a key factor to success she well deserved the steak dinner
You know it's love when your partner is excited to help out with something they don't know anything about.
Never saddle a dead horse! Cable clamps should be installed with the load side in the saddle
Looks good except cable clamps are on backwards, and yes it matters.
Cable clamp ubolt should only dig into the dead end, the short one. Don't saddle a dead horse is what you'll hear many times over.
I got on here to say the same thing 👍😁
Cable clamps should be done with the saddle on the horse. Meaning the cable with the pull on it should have the saddle and the round clamp on the tail end. You don't have much weight so it will work but my dad taught me the correct way.
i promise im not being picky, love the content. the cable clamps are backwards (the dead end gets the shackle side). new shop looks awesome
Glad that you did as much pre-assembly while on the ground. My experience while working 60 feet up is that the probability of fumbling and dropping hardware increases with height.
pucker factor on loosing those fingers!
I am at 35:24, two things-the cable clamps are installed backwards, the saddles go on the running line and the tapered washers go under the head of the bolts on the beam so the bolts are vertical. To fix the bolts on the beam, take one loose, put the tapered washer on the bolt then the bolt in the hole on the beam and tighten, then do the other side.
I suggest the next larger size propane fork truck for you to get to use in the shop. Also the side adjust of the forks.
This was handled about as professionally as a machinist and his wife could do. You and Abby did great. Thanks for a couple of great episodes. I do hope the electrical phase goes as well.
Adam, have the electrician install a 110v outlet right next to the junction box on the crane. Later you can install a travel motor for the trolly and you can plug it inn right there. That is what I did to mine.
29:10 whoa! mind your hand!
Awesome job Abby! I did yell move that hand girl though!!!!
Suggestion from a high rigger: on the off chance you ever need to mount a beam like that again, a couple of drift pins make life easier. Once the beams get within a couple inches of each other, you can thread the pins through the holes and lever them into alignment. The lift/crane operator can bring the beam closer without having to be as precise (you did an amazing job of that BTW - getting that close from a fork lift is tricky).
Was thinking spud wrench at least
I was terrified watching her stick her fingers in the pinch point! Glad it worked out! Whew!!
I was yelling at my monitor. MOVE YOUR HAND!
I would have used thimbles on the eye bolts. Also the cable clamps are on backwards. An old crane operator once told me "you can't saddle a dead horse son!"
Yep, I had a ball watching you guys get it installed. Thanks for another evening of quality relaxation.
Apart from Abby scaring the life out of me with Her hand in there, I thought the easiest way to line up those holes would have been an ironworkers spike!
This video is perfect as it is. Abby did a great job filming and helping you.
One little tip. The wedge shim needs to be on the other side (inside of the beam).
It compensate the angle on the inside of the beam. It helps to ceep the bolt in line and not crooked.
Mrs Abom, I love your manicure! I'm so glad your fingers didn't get squished.
Very nice to see your joy, cooperation and positive energy assembling this smart jib crane. Your relation with Abby seems to be wonderful and full of respect, humor and happiness! Best wishes and love to both of you from Sweden!
Never saddle a dead horse, Best way I remember to place cable clamps!
Abbey will make an excellent forklift operator. I worked in an a factory where we had ladies doing forkilft work as temporary drivers during strikes, they did a good job because they did not take risks an looked after the machines. That crane will really be a great tool for you, well done.
Agreed. I have noticed that, usually, women tend to be more proactive when it comes to driving where as men are more reactive.
At 29:06 I was almost yelling "No! Don't put your fingers inside there!!!". Damn!
I actually did yelp. ELÄ PISTÄ SORMIA SINNE!
I did yell, reminded me of loading external stores.
yeh holy crap i wasnt the only one who got freaked out there lol
Abby did a great job. Was a little concerned about her fingers at one point
A place or need for one or not...Who doesn't have crane envy now? I do. 😃 Great teamwork folks. But I did yell at the screen. Abby! keep your hands outta there, a couple times. LOL
Abby's rotating the head! Feared for her pretty fingers.
Never saddle a dead horse. The saddle of the crosby clamp should be next to the live end of the cable,
I've been watching this channel for years and I am so happy for Adam and all of his progress that he absolutely deserves. These couple of episodes involving the Gorbel Jib Crane have been uniquely special to me because I'm an electrician in upstate New York actually wired the machines that made this crane. Gorbel is in fishers New York about 15 minutes from where I live and years back they decided to rearrange their entire facility to make it flow more efficiently. I've actually done a ton of work in their facility and also wired many of their cranes in the field. If you can Adam you should try to do a tour of their facility I think your viewers would really enjoy seeing how these things are made. Funny how it's such a small world. So happy for all of your success keep up the great work
This is fantastic seeing you get this all thrown together. The past many years with you in yoru shop has always been trying to figure out the best way to lift something heavy, whether its pipes, poles or odd bits of machinery/crane bits. Being able to see you back up, hook up and move through the shop is such a HUGE upgrade to both you and your health!
I thought a couple of amateurs did a good job all round, there was always going to be comments about the "right" way to do something or other, the "nail biting moments with Abbey lining the holes up" had me holding my breath! Overall a great job, well done!
Abbey, Abbey, Abbey ... you did a wonderful job of directing Adam ... my only criticism is, next time, please, please, please do not put your fingers between two metal parts like that while one was moving ... was scaring me the ENTIRE time. One little blip too much by Adam, and you'd be going to the hospital to have something reattached. I'm glad nothing happened, but it was still scaring me the entire time.
The "wedge shim" is called a hillside washer and it goes under the head of the bolt to level out the taper in the I beam.
I enjoy your videos showing how you do so many things. I do admit to cringing many times as you were putting the beam in place hoping to NOT see fingers crushed, etc., but great to have someone to help out when you really need that extra set of eyes. I cannot believe that the holes ended up perfectly aligned on the base. That simply never happens.
A small point on the ‘cable clamps’ (Bulldog Clamps). They should be installed with the cast clamp on the ‘live’ side of the cable and the ‘u-bolt’ side on the spare or ‘dead’ side. The reason is the cast saddle does not damage the cable where the loading is, whereas the U-Bolt can compromise the strength of the cable.
In this application it probably is not that important as the cable is not under huge tension.
The hand......Abby please don't put your hand there! Pinch point! Super glad you didn't get hurt
I think Abby did great! Not easy to film and be that accurate on such a high stakes lift and the hand thing she noticed it the minute it got sketchy and didn’t put her self at risk again
I think that the step 5 instruction called for placing the boom tip higher than level. The boom length formula was not for the shims, but for the tip height over level, measured in inches. By measuring the 15 feet in inches, like it says in the manual, the boom tip should be 0.60 inches above the height measured at level. Your shim should be near 0.52 inches, and the hoist and cable carriers should naturally roll back to the boom stem. You'd have to install the rear plate bolts, check for level and measure to the ground from the boom tip, then raise the tip to +0.6 inches higher, add the necessary shims, then tighten everything down.
I could be wrong, but I've seen one installed and operated a couple similar. the rollers shouldn't stall or settle in the middle of the boom. And every pedestal/jib might be just a couple mill off plumb, so this has to be set at installation by the rigger. I'm pretty certain that Gorbel wouldn't want you to run it this way.
Not trying to be a nit picker. Good video and I enjoy the channel.
Every man should have a woman like Abby by his side. She rocks.
Amen! Few are that lucky!
it looks to me that if you need to do any work on the hoist in the future, you could swing the crane boom over the office to give you a good work platform for accessing the hoist itself.
Bet it’s how some of Abby’s stuff gets move up there.
It’d be funny to deliver lunch to her with the crane!!
Nice crane! It would be nice if they supplied a few rattle cans of touch-up paint in the parts pack.
For that aircraft cable you put the Crosby clips on the wrong way. Never saddle a dead horse. Dead side of wire goes through the ubolt.
I came down into the comments to see if somebody else noticed this. Thanks
@@trademarkdesigns Me too
I'm screaming at my screen, "GET YOUR HANDS OUT OF THERE!"
Yes that was scary seeing her put her hand there while he was moving the beam. You can't trust machines like that.
Never sadle a dead hourse. cable clamp installed upside-down.
Great assist; those holes are spot on. Watch those hands around moving metal...gave me a panic attack she'd get a pinch.
29:06 Gave me heart attack when she put her hand there.