Apologies if any of the pronunciations in this video aren't correct! I tried my best to find examples of each being spoken, but I'm sure there's still plenty of issues. (Also I didn't realize how choppy the map animation was, so I apologize for that too).
Pronunciations seemed quite good to me, though I'm not a native Swedish speaker. Amtrak really should have gone with the X2000 to match the AEM-7s and rebranded the NEC to SJ West.
As a native Swede, I can confirm that the pronunciation is really good. It's clear that you actually put effort into this, particularly when it comes to the vowel sounds, which are probably the trickiest part of Swedish pronunciation for a native English speaker.
11:35 Small correction unrelated to the train. But that's not a cracker, it is bread! A thin, dry, rye based bread. It's meant to be crisp and slightly salty, not crumbly and sweet like a cracker. So if you were expected a cracker, I'm not surprised you found it inedible. (I have to agree on carrot cakes being delicious though. Haven't had a bad one in my entire life of living here.)
Agree, this ”knäcke bröd” is a ”crisp bread”. An obligatory staple with Swedish meals. Cracker is the wrong definition. If you expected that there should be a cracker with your meal i understand you got dissapointed. 😂
Damn at 3:20 you actually spotted a pretty rare service. The train in the background as the Mälartåg leaves is a Tågab service. Tågab is a small private operator with services out of Kristinehamn and Karlstad. Its made of ex SJ employees who didnt agree with some service cuts that SJ were making for freight traffic in the area, so they made their own company. Nowadays they run mostly freight trains but also passenger trains a few times a week at times where SJ started cutting service, connecting the 2 cities with their upland as well as Stockholm and Gothenburg at times where SJ arent running trains. Simon Andersen has a trip report on their quirky services, using old 60's-70's trains full of grandma-esque charms.
Think I traveled with one of those trains once when going home from Gothenburg one day in like 2012 or so. The train was bound for Karlstad I think, but for whatever reason, went via Västra stambanan, rather than the usual route through Dalsland. I don't know if they still go past my town (along Västra stambanan) or if it was just a one off that day. Either way, I found that train really charming with old style bistro car adverts in the very old style (manual doors of the cars, the old 1950's seating etc) train. If it wasn't for me being a wheelchair user these days (ambulatory, but still need to be able to bring it and park it on a train) I'd love to travel with such a train again because it was just so much better than the refurbished train cars, or the god awful X40 and Regina...
These trains might have one of the coolest designs, but in my opinion, they should be retired as soon as possible. No level boarding, narrow doors, the tilting gives me, and many other people, motion sickness, and is just an excuse to not upgrade infrastructure for higher speeds, and the acceleration and top speed is too slow for high speed operation. Either the top speed should be 250km/h without tilting, or the current 200km/h, but with S train level acceleration, like the new IC5 Alstom Coradia Stream EMU’s, which Denmark will be getting in 2027, those trains are gonna feel wicked fast, despite their only 200km/h top speed.
@@BackTheNerdwhat similarities? It’s a different product from Asea Brown Boveri who did not have the financial backing of the Canadian Government which secured the lease arrangements for Bombardier/Alsthom’s American Flyer now marketed as “Acela”
I rode the X2000 on the NEC when it did its demo runs in 1993. I was only 8 but I remember liking it better than the ICE set that came over a few months later…pretty cool that I got to ride both though.
The Swedish railway’s ATC2 system operates with a percentage based overspeed for these trains and they get 30% overspeed while most passenger trains get 10-15% overspeed depending on the line.
the "calm car" used to be the "quiet car" and a lot of us are still upset that they changed it. it used to be way calmer and quieter but nowadays they allow talking and even being on the phone, which compared to old days is a lot worse haha
Thanks for another great video! Love that you go all over the world for train geeks! I saw a young fellow about 5 years old in the library the other day getting a book on trains. It made me smile as I LOVE trains :) I live across the road from the local train and love hearing it come by, and it's a great way to tell the time!
4:32. Just wanted to note that the trains to Malmö doesn’t go via Nyköping, they instead normaly go west to Katrineholm and then straight down to Norrköping. Nice video!
Someone else mentioned this, but I believe the error stems from what google maps shows as the route when I searched from Stockholm to Malmo. There were some track works happening on the weekend I traveled, so it’s possible the route shown was taken, but I doubt it, all things considered. Thanks for the comment, though, and I’m glad you enjoyed the video!
Nice to see your take on the "new" trains. I appreciate the updated design and layout of the X2000. However, I find myself missing the bistro seating. While I understand the strategic decision to maximize seating capacity, perhaps a few bar stools or a similar solution could have been incorporated to maintain a social space for passengers.
All that matters to me is the lowest possible travel time, cause I have to spent time with other people, and people will never get satisfied enough with quality, in any aspect of live, but speed can eventually be instant, so that’s an attainable goal, and something people can relate and aspire to. And 4,5 hours to cover 315 miles or whatever, that’s so slow, no wonder people are flying and driving instead. The mainlines need to be upgraded to 250km/h, without tilting, to be competitive with flying and driving, or just upgraded to a stable 200km/h without tilting, using very high accelerating 200km/h EMU’s, much cheaper, and makes the train feel much faster, reduces delays, and allows for much shorter stops at stations, cause of wide regional train style doors, and fast aceleration and braking. Max acceleration always before increasing top speed, best bang for the buck.
The X2000 is amazing! I rode it earlier this year. I wish we could have a proper long-distance product like this in Denmark. It is far superior to anything our DSB has to offer.
SJ also recently removed the quiet compartment, "silent class" (used to cost the same a regular 2nd class), and implemented a new "2nd class calm" which is more expensive and neither calm nor silent. A fairly unpopular move.
It's only slightly more expensive. Have travelled in it several times and everyone was quiet. Much better than before - the quiet section was just a few rows with loud doors either end with people constantly going through so it was never really quiet
It’s been going on for quite a while, but trains between Stockholm and Malmö have been diverted for whatever reason. This includes your train, and the route goes via Nyköping instead of Katrineholm.
The trains Stockholm-Malmö usually go via Katrineholm. They will only go via Nyköping sometimes if there is construction work or something special happening since the line via Nyköping has only one track.
@@LonestarTrips Yeah trains usually go to Katrineholm where the mainlines to Gothenburg and Malmö respectively branch off. Most trains also stop in Katrineholm too normally. Though the Swedish government has just started work on Ostlänken. A new 100 mile long high speed railway from Sodertalje to Linköping via Nyköping and Norrköping. This line is planned for 155mph service speeds (though dimensioned for 200mph) and once done will reduce journey times by 40 minutes. Its essentially phase 1 of a vast high speed rail plan that Swedens governments have been working on. Work got halted by the current right wing government but its slowly being started back up, though some projects like Ostlänken have had corners cut and their speed reduced to 155mph rather than 200mph to lower costs. The Ostlänken High speed railway is expected to be done in the mid 2030's though SJ have already ordered 25 high speed trains from Bombardier (now Alstom) to be used on this, and other lines. Those will partially displace the X2000's, and allow both higher speeds and improved capacity on the critical rail services across Sweden until the high speed rail network is hopefully built out in full in like 2050.
man this made me really appreciate our trains in sweden, they get a lot of shit and they don't get neeeearly as much funding as needed to keep pace with upkeep and modernization but i sure do love them still. i need to take the train to malmö too, much nicer down south now that winter is coming.
X2000 ride was extremely rough on Amtrak's Northeast Corridor throwing passengers and crew all over the place when I was Conductor in the 1992 or 3 whereas ride was smooth as silk when I rode X2000 from Stockholm to Copenhagen in 2012.
Oh! You managed to find a working toilet, lucky you! The toilets are quite problematic and are more often than not out of order. This is a fleet-wide issue and not specifically linked to the refurbished units (they didn't refurbish the toilet systems, but that's about to change)
4:35 I know what happened here! I bet you checked the route via Google Maps, because it shows the Malmö trains as going the Nyköping route, when it actually travels west to Katrineholm, then south to Norrköping. I don't think anyone really cares except for me though :) Great video too!!
I think you’re right! I wasn’t aware there was an alternative routing to the one presented in google. That being said there were some track works going on the weekend I traveled, so it’s possible that route was the one we took, but I doubt it. Seems like a lot of Swedes are taking note of the route error tho, so you’re in good company (I don’t mind tho, we all make mistakes). Thanks for the comment!
About the pricing. While it's of interest what the ticket for this trip cost and also what the lower class tickets cost it's sadly only useful as a very rough guideline as SJ's dynamic pricing means the comparisons in absolute numbers are more likely to be useless than not. For instance, if you'd book this trip (same route and departure time) two (or even four) weeks from now the price difference between 2nd and 1st class is over 1000 SEK. Depending on how far in advance you book, what time of year it is, what day of the week it is and what time of day it is a 2nd class ticket on this route can go for anywhere from around 250 SEK to 1500 SEK while a 1st class ticket can be around 400 SEK to 2400 SEK.
@@LonestarTrips That's the tought. But some passengers actually get nauseous by the tilting. It's very personal if it really makes the ride more comfortable.
@@anarfox I can tell you tho that even if you get nauseous you will be more comfortable either way since if you somehow end up in a passenger car where the tilting doesn't work you will get thrown around. This happend to me during the only time I actually wanted to try out first class. It was annoying for me and many others so the driver had to lower the speed.
Incredible train. I have not been able to ride the re-model version yet but even the base one is great, 1st class especially and depending on booking the price is not that different.
Interesting title you chose. 25 years from today would be 1999, but these trains were put into testing 1989 and started commercial operations 1990. Wouldn't claiming it to be 35 years old (wich it is) be better.
A slight correction on the map. Unless there was some kind of work going on (which there could have been) and they took the alternative route via Nyköping/Kolmården (where its single tracks on some parts) the route does not go directly to Södertälje -> Norrköping beside the E4. The normal route is along the southern main line of tracks that goes Södertälje -> Katrineholm -> Norrköping which is a bit of a detour. Its at Katrineholm where the trains to Gothenburg continues west while the trains to Malmö turns to the south, which is why this small town even exist. Only some X2000 trains stop at Katrineholm though since its a small town. The new planned "high speed" railway in Sweden are supposed to go more straight from Södertälje to Norrköping via Skavsta airport, which would reduce the travel time.
I think we may have been rerouted via the E4 that day, but I’m not entirely sure tbh. I seem to remember reading there was track work going on that weekend, but idk if it actually impacted our train.
Nice video made! But i think the train set "sold" to Guangshen railway in china was actually more of a lease, when the contract ended it got "resold" back to SJ.
I don’t think it’s me, but that’s not uncommon lol. There was a seat chart, but because of the renovations, SJ hasn’t updated it to reflect the changed layout.
In all honesty, Amtrak should've gone with the ABB contract for the X2000s. They've been incredibly successful in Sweden, and they've just had their service life extended, whereas the Acelas desperately need to be replaced.
Chinese railway had 1 set of X2000 back in the early 00's for Guangzhou East to Hong Kong/Shenzhen services it was the only high speed train service in China before the CRH
I just wish they'd add wheelchair accessibility in first class... SOME of us who rely on wheelchair accessibility (be it an ambulatory or full time wheelchair user) would like to NOT sit in the family car as it's every so often cluttered with prams and screaming babies and toddlers... I for one am an ambulatory wheelchair user, I'm also autistic (and hence suffer with sensory issues, where sounds is some of my worst triggers and babies/toddlers/children are my worst sound triggers) and because of my disability and where I have to sit on a train without any other option available, I absolutely despise going anywhere by train! I live 40 minutes by train from Gothenburg, so pretty convenient, but I end up driving 99,9% of the time if going to Gothenburg. If I need to go to Stockholm (almost 3h by X2000 or MTRX/VR) I do take the train, but I hate it because I always end up on a train with a lot of toddlers on it, and nowhere to go to escape it... I'd love to be able to book first class on a train despite my wheelchair, because first class is usually a lot more peaceful than "cattle class" or at least a lot calmer than the family car full of toddlers! I'm also not the only Swedish wheelchair user who'd like to see more wheelchair accessible seat options on our trains. Some people I know feel like they're being treated like second class citizens only because operators don't bother making first class wheelchair accessible, and some, like me, prefer a calmer environment when traveling... X2000 is an amazing train, even all these years later, it's still holding up and going strong even if comparing it to newer high speed trains around the world that are traveling on similar tracks (we do not have separate high speed rails in Sweden, so our high speed trains go on the same tracks as all other trains, tracks that are often not as straight as designated high speed tracks would be) If I have to travel by train, X2000 is my top choice when it comes to speed and comfort, but due to ticket prices, I've gone with MTRX (now VR) since they started operating the Stockholm-Gothenburg line in 2015, while their trains aren't as comfortable (no tilt so not as smooth, and rock hard seats) the prices are just so much better and the travel time is almost on the minute the same as X2000, so I just don't see myself paying at least twice as much to go with X2000 instead of VR... Maybe that would change if X2000 installed a lift and larger restroom in first class as well, so childless disabled people at least could have a choice...
It's technically high speed by way of reaching 125mph, the official standard for high speed rail. Of course, that's hardly anything nowadays with trains regularly hitting 200+ mph.
@@LonestarTrips Yeah. Its like the low end of high speed trains. Though even still it serves its role well as the backbone of Swedens rail network, and for its time was one of the most revolutionary high speed trains on the market. Standing toe to toe against the ICE 1, and TGV Sud-Est. Heck it was even just marginally slower than the original Shinkansen 0 series which started high speed rail as we know it today.
@@drdewott9154 as a swedish person, try to hit over 200kmh on our rails and you will derail, its a highspeed train as it can take curves better then most other trains thanks to the tilting, its a highspeed here in sweden as it will get an upgraded route soon to take it to 250kmh or more. so its all about time, besides trying to go with an ice here in sweden would lead to to disasters LOL. (saying this with no hatred just pointing out in a nice way :D)
@@Foxo1441 I'm not trying to diss Sweden and it's X2000 trains at all. Just that compared to other high speed trains it's on the slow end. Still it's one of the most successful tilting trains in the whole world! And when you don't have any extensive network of new high speed railways like France, Spain, Italy, Japan, China, or even Germany, then the X2000 is some of the best you can get. I do hope the Swedish government resumes work on the high speed rail plan in the country at fast rates so it can become even better, with 250-300km/h, greater capacity, more departures, and shorter travel times! Ostlänken, Götalandsbanan, Europabanan (or it's alternative option), Västkustbanan, Botnia and Norrbotniabanan, and so much more! The quicker we can get a high speed rail system across Scandinavia the better.
I will say this though, for a hih speed train its a bit slower than i was expecting. Ots not that much faster than the Illini or the saluki in Illinois
This reminds me of the Swedish Royal Palace that I’d love to visit if I ever visit Stockholm and to meet the Swedish Royal Family (even though I’m Irish and living in the U.K. myself) - by comparison, the trains here in the U.K. are so poor that they can’t even reach nor achieve these standards, for example York, Leeds and Manchester Victoria to Holyhead on SailRail (train and ferry to Dublin) and the problems are frustratingly easy to fix, but the political will is simply not there, as most of the U.K. railways have become a political football, of which HS2 is a prime example
To be fair, Amtrak has massive arm chairs. Though I doubt the leathery surface is as comfy as the soft fabric on these. Plus you still get good legroom on these Swedish trains. Their new Bombardier high speed trains are gonna have the same seats too.
The train can actually tilt up to 15degrees, But they locked it down in the 90s after people become motion sick. I one rode a X2000 where the tilt mechanism got locked in maximum tilt, it was... well very strange.
Yes I remember that. The tilt was much more noticeable and may I guess, faster. I became motion sick on my first ride but after the changes I’ve had hundreds of rides without feeling any motion sickness.
@@LonestarTrips Are you able to review some of Sweden’s other trains while doing so? I absolutely loved this video and a review on SJ’s secondary high-speed train, the SJ3000, would be great. Sorry if it’s pressuring but I love how detailed you describe everything
@@olasola1013 I'm so glad you enjoyed, and I will review more of Sweden's trains! I filmed videos on the VR/MTRX, Malartag, SJ Regional services, the Arlanda Express, and I couldn't help but film a video on one of SJ's sleeper trains as well. Plus my job is sending me to Sweden for 3 months next year, so expect plenty of Swedish rail videos in the coming year.
Apologies if any of the pronunciations in this video aren't correct! I tried my best to find examples of each being spoken, but I'm sure there's still plenty of issues. (Also I didn't realize how choppy the map animation was, so I apologize for that too).
@@LonestarTrips it’s ok I don’t mind at all
Pronunciations seemed quite good to me, though I'm not a native Swedish speaker.
Amtrak really should have gone with the X2000 to match the AEM-7s and rebranded the NEC to SJ West.
As a native Swede, I can confirm that the pronunciation is really good. It's clear that you actually put effort into this, particularly when it comes to the vowel sounds, which are probably the trickiest part of Swedish pronunciation for a native English speaker.
lonestartripreports I love your channel
@@Henry-loves-trains Much appreciated Henry! I'm so glad you enjoy the channel.
11:35 Small correction unrelated to the train. But that's not a cracker, it is bread! A thin, dry, rye based bread. It's meant to be crisp and slightly salty, not crumbly and sweet like a cracker.
So if you were expected a cracker, I'm not surprised you found it inedible. (I have to agree on carrot cakes being delicious though. Haven't had a bad one in my entire life of living here.)
Agree, this ”knäcke bröd” is a ”crisp bread”. An obligatory staple with Swedish meals. Cracker is the wrong definition.
If you expected that there should be a cracker with your meal i understand you got dissapointed. 😂
knäckebröd är fantastiskt, snubben är anglofon bara
Damn at 3:20 you actually spotted a pretty rare service. The train in the background as the Mälartåg leaves is a Tågab service. Tågab is a small private operator with services out of Kristinehamn and Karlstad. Its made of ex SJ employees who didnt agree with some service cuts that SJ were making for freight traffic in the area, so they made their own company. Nowadays they run mostly freight trains but also passenger trains a few times a week at times where SJ started cutting service, connecting the 2 cities with their upland as well as Stockholm and Gothenburg at times where SJ arent running trains. Simon Andersen has a trip report on their quirky services, using old 60's-70's trains full of grandma-esque charms.
Think I traveled with one of those trains once when going home from Gothenburg one day in like 2012 or so. The train was bound for Karlstad I think, but for whatever reason, went via Västra stambanan, rather than the usual route through Dalsland. I don't know if they still go past my town (along Västra stambanan) or if it was just a one off that day.
Either way, I found that train really charming with old style bistro car adverts in the very old style (manual doors of the cars, the old 1950's seating etc) train. If it wasn't for me being a wheelchair user these days (ambulatory, but still need to be able to bring it and park it on a train) I'd love to travel with such a train again because it was just so much better than the refurbished train cars, or the god awful X40 and Regina...
@ReyOfLight Yup that checks out. That's definitely Tågab.
Impressed by your pronunciation of Swedish words and place names😀👍
These trains might have one of the coolest designs, but in my opinion, they should be retired as soon as possible. No level boarding, narrow doors, the tilting gives me, and many other people, motion sickness, and is just an excuse to not upgrade infrastructure for higher speeds, and the acceleration and top speed is too slow for high speed operation. Either the top speed should be 250km/h without tilting, or the current 200km/h, but with S train level acceleration, like the new IC5 Alstom Coradia Stream EMU’s, which Denmark will be getting in 2027, those trains are gonna feel wicked fast, despite their only 200km/h top speed.
I remember Amtrak used to use these for demos and experiments!
This explains a fair bit about the similarities between it and the Acelas!
@@BackTheNerdwhat similarities? It’s a different product from Asea Brown Boveri who did not have the financial backing of the Canadian Government which secured the lease arrangements for Bombardier/Alsthom’s American Flyer now marketed as “Acela”
@@erik_griswold he’s talking about the amenities and service
@ Acela had more amenities when it started.
Yep! They used an X2000 and a German ICE train for testing before the Acela sets were built.
I rode the X2000 on the NEC when it did its demo runs in 1993. I was only 8 but I remember liking it better than the ICE set that came over a few months later…pretty cool that I got to ride both though.
Wow that's awesome! Would've loved to ride on either back when they were touring.
I got to ride on both the X2000 and the ICE too! I was 4-5 years old at the time, can't remember which one I liked better.
The Swedish railway’s ATC2 system operates with a percentage based overspeed for these trains and they get 30% overspeed while most passenger trains get 10-15% overspeed depending on the line.
Oh interesting, I was unaware of that!
the "calm car" used to be the "quiet car" and a lot of us are still upset that they changed it. it used to be way calmer and quieter but nowadays they allow talking and even being on the phone, which compared to old days is a lot worse haha
Thanks for another great video! Love that you go all over the world for train geeks! I saw a young fellow about 5 years old in the library the other day getting a book on trains. It made me smile as I LOVE trains :) I live across the road from the local train and love hearing it come by, and it's a great way to tell the time!
Wonderful to hear you enjoyed the video! As a train geek myself, I try my best to bring everyone content from across the globe 😊
4:35 tiny mistake: SJ does not go through Nyköping due to the tracks not having enough capacity and the demand being low.
Awesome video! You go so in depth and show a first person experience of what it is like riding on trains.
I do my best 😊
4:32. Just wanted to note that the trains to Malmö doesn’t go via Nyköping, they instead normaly go west to Katrineholm and then straight down to Norrköping. Nice video!
Someone else mentioned this, but I believe the error stems from what google maps shows as the route when I searched from Stockholm to Malmo. There were some track works happening on the weekend I traveled, so it’s possible the route shown was taken, but I doubt it, all things considered. Thanks for the comment, though, and I’m glad you enjoyed the video!
17:21 wth that food looks so much better than i ever thought train food would look. nice
11:37 apparently knäckebröd isn't for everyone hahaha
Nice to see your take on the "new" trains. I appreciate the updated design and layout of the X2000. However, I find myself missing the bistro seating. While I understand the strategic decision to maximize seating capacity, perhaps a few bar stools or a similar solution could have been incorporated to maintain a social space for passengers.
All that matters to me is the lowest possible travel time, cause I have to spent time with other people, and people will never get satisfied enough with quality, in any aspect of live, but speed can eventually be instant, so that’s an attainable goal, and something people can relate and aspire to. And 4,5 hours to cover 315 miles or whatever, that’s so slow, no wonder people are flying and driving instead. The mainlines need to be upgraded to 250km/h, without tilting, to be competitive with flying and driving, or just upgraded to a stable 200km/h without tilting, using very high accelerating 200km/h EMU’s, much cheaper, and makes the train feel much faster, reduces delays, and allows for much shorter stops at stations, cause of wide regional train style doors, and fast aceleration and braking. Max acceleration always before increasing top speed, best bang for the buck.
Thanks for putting in the effort to pronounce the Swedish place names correctly 🙏
This was a great look on our great high speed X2 trains. I found out some new things....so thanks for that 😎
19:02 me when I'm trying to look busy on my phone lmaoooooo. (the dude swiping, only to open Gmail).
I feel that lol
The X2000 is amazing! I rode it earlier this year. I wish we could have a proper long-distance product like this in Denmark. It is far superior to anything our DSB has to offer.
Dsb stinker på alle måder 😂 lækkert tog det x2000🤗 øresundstogene er også nice, har taget dem mange gange til malmø
This does look like your train was very comfortable.
It certainly was 😁
@@LonestarTrips I'm glad to hear that you had a good trip.
SJ also recently removed the quiet compartment, "silent class" (used to cost the same a regular 2nd class), and implemented a new "2nd class calm" which is more expensive and neither calm nor silent. A fairly unpopular move.
It's only slightly more expensive. Have travelled in it several times and everyone was quiet. Much better than before - the quiet section was just a few rows with loud doors either end with people constantly going through so it was never really quiet
11:33 couldn't eat the knäkkebröd i see
It’s been going on for quite a while, but trains between Stockholm and Malmö have been diverted for whatever reason. This includes your train, and the route goes via Nyköping instead of Katrineholm.
Huh, interesting. I'm unfamiliar with SJ's routes, so I never thought anything of it.
The trains Stockholm-Malmö usually go via Katrineholm. They will only go via Nyköping sometimes if there is construction work or something special happening since the line via Nyköping has only one track.
@@LonestarTrips Yeah trains usually go to Katrineholm where the mainlines to Gothenburg and Malmö respectively branch off. Most trains also stop in Katrineholm too normally. Though the Swedish government has just started work on Ostlänken. A new 100 mile long high speed railway from Sodertalje to Linköping via Nyköping and Norrköping.
This line is planned for 155mph service speeds (though dimensioned for 200mph) and once done will reduce journey times by 40 minutes. Its essentially phase 1 of a vast high speed rail plan that Swedens governments have been working on. Work got halted by the current right wing government but its slowly being started back up, though some projects like Ostlänken have had corners cut and their speed reduced to 155mph rather than 200mph to lower costs.
The Ostlänken High speed railway is expected to be done in the mid 2030's though SJ have already ordered 25 high speed trains from Bombardier (now Alstom) to be used on this, and other lines. Those will partially displace the X2000's, and allow both higher speeds and improved capacity on the critical rail services across Sweden until the high speed rail network is hopefully built out in full in like 2050.
@@robertenskog46 But the weird thing is that there are still regional services running between Katrineholm and Norrköping
@@olasola1013 I don’t think it’s weird since the Stockholm-Malmö trains usually don’t stop in Katrineholm.
man this made me really appreciate our trains in sweden, they get a lot of shit and they don't get neeeearly as much funding as needed to keep pace with upkeep and modernization but i sure do love them still. i need to take the train to malmö too, much nicer down south now that winter is coming.
14:07 it's a nice touch that the tray has an "ad" for a childrens charity instead of some dumb corporation. good job sj
X2000 ride was extremely rough on Amtrak's Northeast Corridor throwing passengers and crew all over the place when I was Conductor in the 1992 or 3 whereas ride was smooth as silk when I rode X2000 from Stockholm to Copenhagen in 2012.
ANYYYTHINGGG FROM THE TROLLEY!? 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
Wow!
🚅🚞
Oh! You managed to find a working toilet, lucky you! The toilets are quite problematic and are more often than not out of order. This is a fleet-wide issue and not specifically linked to the refurbished units (they didn't refurbish the toilet systems, but that's about to change)
Oh interesting! To be honest, the toilet in the first class car wasn't actually working, so I had to use the one in the next car down.
4:35 I know what happened here! I bet you checked the route via Google Maps, because it shows the Malmö trains as going the Nyköping route, when it actually travels west to Katrineholm, then south to Norrköping. I don't think anyone really cares except for me though :)
Great video too!!
I think you’re right! I wasn’t aware there was an alternative routing to the one presented in google. That being said there were some track works going on the weekend I traveled, so it’s possible that route was the one we took, but I doubt it. Seems like a lot of Swedes are taking note of the route error tho, so you’re in good company (I don’t mind tho, we all make mistakes). Thanks for the comment!
About the pricing. While it's of interest what the ticket for this trip cost and also what the lower class tickets cost it's sadly only useful as a very rough guideline as SJ's dynamic pricing means the comparisons in absolute numbers are more likely to be useless than not. For instance, if you'd book this trip (same route and departure time) two (or even four) weeks from now the price difference between 2nd and 1st class is over 1000 SEK.
Depending on how far in advance you book, what time of year it is, what day of the week it is and what time of day it is a 2nd class ticket on this route can go for anywhere from around 250 SEK to 1500 SEK while a 1st class ticket can be around 400 SEK to 2400 SEK.
9:20 The train tilting is only for the purpose of making it comfortable for the passengers. It has nothing to do with the stability on the rail.
Yes, but that tilting is what makes those speeds comfortable for passengers.
@@LonestarTrips That's the tought. But some passengers actually get nauseous by the tilting. It's very personal if it really makes the ride more comfortable.
@@anarfox I can tell you tho that even if you get nauseous you will be more comfortable either way since if you somehow end up in a passenger car where the tilting doesn't work you will get thrown around. This happend to me during the only time I actually wanted to try out first class. It was annoying for me and many others so the driver had to lower the speed.
Incredible train. I have not been able to ride the re-model version yet but even the base one is great, 1st class especially and depending on booking the price is not that different.
Interesting title you chose. 25 years from today would be 1999, but these trains were put into testing 1989 and started commercial operations 1990. Wouldn't claiming it to be 35 years old (wich it is) be better.
A slight correction on the map. Unless there was some kind of work going on (which there could have been) and they took the alternative route via Nyköping/Kolmården (where its single tracks on some parts) the route does not go directly to Södertälje -> Norrköping beside the E4. The normal route is along the southern main line of tracks that goes Södertälje -> Katrineholm -> Norrköping which is a bit of a detour. Its at Katrineholm where the trains to Gothenburg continues west while the trains to Malmö turns to the south, which is why this small town even exist. Only some X2000 trains stop at Katrineholm though since its a small town.
The new planned "high speed" railway in Sweden are supposed to go more straight from Södertälje to Norrköping via Skavsta airport, which would reduce the travel time.
I think we may have been rerouted via the E4 that day, but I’m not entirely sure tbh. I seem to remember reading there was track work going on that weekend, but idk if it actually impacted our train.
Nice video made! But i think the train set "sold" to Guangshen railway in china was actually more of a lease, when the contract ended it got "resold" back to SJ.
I missed trying the X2000 when Countrylink trialed it on the Sydney - Canberra Line in the 90's
Is it you or some of the other vlogger who always ends up in a seat next to a wall? Was there a seat chart to select from?
I don’t think it’s me, but that’s not uncommon lol. There was a seat chart, but because of the renovations, SJ hasn’t updated it to reflect the changed layout.
Wasa knäckebröd is not uneatable 😂
It certainly wasn’t 😆
oh i took this one back in the days too, just not a first class :)
The manuever wagon of the chinese x2000 is in the Gävle railway museum and it got repainted to the same livery as the refurbished x2000
The X2 is such a great train. The world’s slowest high speed train. The goal was to make the train warp, not the rail.
I wish the Acela was like the Swedish Railway X2000 level of service
In all honesty, Amtrak should've gone with the ABB contract for the X2000s. They've been incredibly successful in Sweden, and they've just had their service life extended, whereas the Acelas desperately need to be replaced.
@@LonestarTrips That would've been amazing but the FRA at the time did not want Trains traveling then 125mph to have a cab car leading.
The first X200-set was built in 1989, so the trains are up to 35 years old.
You are missing a zero.
@johankaewberg8162 holy shit! 350 years old? That's impressive.
SJ on time? unheard of 😝
It's actually 34 years old. Put into service in 1990.
I saw a X2 today:)
Can you make a Caltrain ride on the south county connector from San Jose to Gilroy
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Chinese railway had 1 set of X2000 back in the early 00's for Guangzhou East to Hong Kong/Shenzhen services it was the only high speed train service in China before the CRH
I just wish they'd add wheelchair accessibility in first class... SOME of us who rely on wheelchair accessibility (be it an ambulatory or full time wheelchair user) would like to NOT sit in the family car as it's every so often cluttered with prams and screaming babies and toddlers...
I for one am an ambulatory wheelchair user, I'm also autistic (and hence suffer with sensory issues, where sounds is some of my worst triggers and babies/toddlers/children are my worst sound triggers) and because of my disability and where I have to sit on a train without any other option available, I absolutely despise going anywhere by train! I live 40 minutes by train from Gothenburg, so pretty convenient, but I end up driving 99,9% of the time if going to Gothenburg. If I need to go to Stockholm (almost 3h by X2000 or MTRX/VR) I do take the train, but I hate it because I always end up on a train with a lot of toddlers on it, and nowhere to go to escape it...
I'd love to be able to book first class on a train despite my wheelchair, because first class is usually a lot more peaceful than "cattle class" or at least a lot calmer than the family car full of toddlers!
I'm also not the only Swedish wheelchair user who'd like to see more wheelchair accessible seat options on our trains. Some people I know feel like they're being treated like second class citizens only because operators don't bother making first class wheelchair accessible, and some, like me, prefer a calmer environment when traveling...
X2000 is an amazing train, even all these years later, it's still holding up and going strong even if comparing it to newer high speed trains around the world that are traveling on similar tracks (we do not have separate high speed rails in Sweden, so our high speed trains go on the same tracks as all other trains, tracks that are often not as straight as designated high speed tracks would be)
If I have to travel by train, X2000 is my top choice when it comes to speed and comfort, but due to ticket prices, I've gone with MTRX (now VR) since they started operating the Stockholm-Gothenburg line in 2015, while their trains aren't as comfortable (no tilt so not as smooth, and rock hard seats) the prices are just so much better and the travel time is almost on the minute the same as X2000, so I just don't see myself paying at least twice as much to go with X2000 instead of VR... Maybe that would change if X2000 installed a lift and larger restroom in first class as well, so childless disabled people at least could have a choice...
It's not really a highspeed train anymore but still very nice.
It never was. It has always been a higher-speed train.
It's technically high speed by way of reaching 125mph, the official standard for high speed rail. Of course, that's hardly anything nowadays with trains regularly hitting 200+ mph.
@@LonestarTrips Yeah. Its like the low end of high speed trains. Though even still it serves its role well as the backbone of Swedens rail network, and for its time was one of the most revolutionary high speed trains on the market. Standing toe to toe against the ICE 1, and TGV Sud-Est. Heck it was even just marginally slower than the original Shinkansen 0 series which started high speed rail as we know it today.
@@drdewott9154 as a swedish person, try to hit over 200kmh on our rails and you will derail, its a highspeed train as it can take curves better then most other trains thanks to the tilting, its a highspeed here in sweden as it will get an upgraded route soon to take it to 250kmh or more. so its all about time, besides trying to go with an ice here in sweden would lead to to disasters LOL. (saying this with no hatred just pointing out in a nice way :D)
@@Foxo1441 I'm not trying to diss Sweden and it's X2000 trains at all. Just that compared to other high speed trains it's on the slow end. Still it's one of the most successful tilting trains in the whole world! And when you don't have any extensive network of new high speed railways like France, Spain, Italy, Japan, China, or even Germany, then the X2000 is some of the best you can get.
I do hope the Swedish government resumes work on the high speed rail plan in the country at fast rates so it can become even better, with 250-300km/h, greater capacity, more departures, and shorter travel times! Ostlänken, Götalandsbanan, Europabanan (or it's alternative option), Västkustbanan, Botnia and Norrbotniabanan, and so much more!
The quicker we can get a high speed rail system across Scandinavia the better.
I will say this though, for a hih speed train its a bit slower than i was expecting. Ots not that much faster than the Illini or the saluki in Illinois
This reminds me of the Swedish Royal Palace that I’d love to visit if I ever visit Stockholm and to meet the Swedish Royal Family (even though I’m Irish and living in the U.K. myself) - by comparison, the trains here in the U.K. are so poor that they can’t even reach nor achieve these standards, for example York, Leeds and Manchester Victoria to Holyhead on SailRail (train and ferry to Dublin) and the problems are frustratingly easy to fix, but the political will is simply not there, as most of the U.K. railways have become a political football, of which HS2 is a prime example
You should do a trip report from Virginia to Springfield Massachusetts a very unique trip that takes you on and off the Northeast corridor
Wow.. amtraks coach seats have more room.
To be fair, Amtrak has massive arm chairs. Though I doubt the leathery surface is as comfy as the soft fabric on these. Plus you still get good legroom on these Swedish trains. Their new Bombardier high speed trains are gonna have the same seats too.
How about Spains Talgo Avril S-106 train of which I have heard that is the worst high speed train in Europe
Same age as Volvos first big front wheel driven car, the 850. That one isn't competitive with today's cars with only new paint and interior...
Hello, X2000 is SJ:s/Sweden's flagship when it comes to trains. I would like to say that the X2000 is one of the better electric trains in the world.
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The train can actually tilt up to 15degrees, But they locked it down in the 90s after people become motion sick.
I one rode a X2000 where the tilt mechanism got locked in maximum tilt, it was... well very strange.
Yes I remember that. The tilt was much more noticeable and may I guess, faster. I became motion sick on my first ride but after the changes I’ve had hundreds of rides without feeling any motion sickness.
im swedish
Awesome! I loved spending time in Sweden, and I'll get to live there for a couple months next year!
@@LonestarTrips Are you able to review some of Sweden’s other trains while doing so? I absolutely loved this video and a review on SJ’s secondary high-speed train, the SJ3000, would be great. Sorry if it’s pressuring but I love how detailed you describe everything
@@olasola1013 I'm so glad you enjoyed, and I will review more of Sweden's trains! I filmed videos on the VR/MTRX, Malartag, SJ Regional services, the Arlanda Express, and I couldn't help but film a video on one of SJ's sleeper trains as well. Plus my job is sending me to Sweden for 3 months next year, so expect plenty of Swedish rail videos in the coming year.
@@LonestarTrips Awesome! I look forward to seeing them as they come!
It’s called Göteborg not gothenburg
The official name is Gothenburg in English.
it is old and lacking and the train track is very used up so cant say swed has good train/rail sadly lack safety
What are you smoking ? LOL
Crack is pretty effective nowadays.
@@LonestarTrips Legend
@@bahnspotterEU Sometimes you gotta be so far out of pocket that you end up back in your other pocket.