I have a luthier's cello made from some national woods and a little rustic on some aspects, the timbre is a little different and lack some of the caracteristic crispy sound on the attack of the bowing, it has a french bridge with way more wood than a regular one. Changing it for a belgium or taking some wood off would help with that? also the soundpost is kind of short and fatter than a regular one x'd (it drops if strings are loose)
For my cellos the French has bit warmer sound, Belgium more bright sound. I use a hybrid bridge, for one cello - it's a combo of F&B bridges and I use a F one my other cello and a B on the other.
This is so true, I’ve worked with both many times as well.You do lose a touch of beauty on the Belgium style bridges independently of the mode matching that you do.
I have a Snow cello, Chinese factory made. I would imagine it's valued at around 4 to 5 grand, and for what it is, it actually has a dark deep mellow sound. A nice bass. However, I can barely hear myself in orchestra and there simply is no power. I have a Larsen A and D and a Spirocore G and C string on which seem to be the "standard soloist" strings, but while they encourage my cello's lovely mellow tone, they only accentuate the problem of there being no real projection to the instrument. Short of trying different strings which may or may not be effective, my real suspicion now at this point is the bridge. The bridge I have is French and while I of course love a cello with the kind of sound I have, I also need power. The bass end must resonate when needed as well as be warm, whole, and supportive for quieter dynamics. Maybe you can advise somewhat, but I may have to take it yet again to a luthier near me and drop several hundred dollars to have a Belgian bridge made and fitted.
The width has to be chosen to the most ideal situation of every instrument. They exist in all measurements; if not available the violinmaker needs to cut the bridge out of a piece of maple. Of course you can change from one style to another. But in any case the bridge needs to be fitted properly to the instrument’s situation. A work which takes me at least 4 hours of work. Smashing on a piece which looks like a bridge is a different way of violinmaking than how I proceed. That’s why this channel exists as it is and that’s why I explain all these apparently tiny details. If you want to save you end up with something which looks the same but doesn’t work at its full potential! Yes or yes? All the best from Cremona Edgar
@@EdgarRuss Thank you for responses. Since we can adjust the position of the sound post but not the bass bar so we have to choose the bridge that match to the bass bar position? Best Regards from Indonesia. andre stp
John, Thank you for the nice challenging question! I have been thinking for one day and there would be so much to answer. But the best answer to keep things short here is: Because human life has an expiry date. That's why you should invest now in yourself and in a violin of mine! enjoy life Edgar
I learn so much from your channel1 thanks a lot. I hope to come to see you in Cremona sometimes and have the opportunity to try out your cellos.
Thank you for the explanation, good sir.
Thanks Jonny!
I have a luthier's cello made from some national woods and a little rustic on some aspects, the timbre is a little different and lack some of the caracteristic crispy sound on the attack of the bowing, it has a french bridge with way more wood than a regular one. Changing it for a belgium or taking some wood off would help with that? also the soundpost is kind of short and fatter than a regular one x'd (it drops if strings are loose)
Team French ❤ the french has a very nice sound to it. Had played with both and I prefer the french over the belgium one.
I love Belgian ones.
I just broke my bridge doing something stupid. It was an expensive lesson for me. Do take care of your bridges!
Oh my god, let me know if you need help!
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Edgar
For my cellos the French has bit warmer sound, Belgium more bright sound. I use a hybrid bridge, for one cello - it's a combo of F&B bridges and I use a F one my other cello and a B on the other.
Very interesting; thanks for your feedback!
All the best from Cremona
Edgar
This is so true, I’ve worked with both many times as well.You do lose a touch of beauty on the Belgium style bridges independently of the mode matching that you do.
Thank you for your feedback!
All the best
Edgar
I have a Snow cello, Chinese factory made. I would imagine it's valued at around 4 to 5 grand, and for what it is, it actually has a dark deep mellow sound. A nice bass. However, I can barely hear myself in orchestra and there simply is no power. I have a Larsen A and D and a Spirocore G and C string on which seem to be the "standard soloist" strings, but while they encourage my cello's lovely mellow tone, they only accentuate the problem of there being no real projection to the instrument. Short of trying different strings which may or may not be effective, my real suspicion now at this point is the bridge. The bridge I have is French and while I of course love a cello with the kind of sound I have, I also need power. The bass end must resonate when needed as well as be warm, whole, and supportive for quieter dynamics. Maybe you can advise somewhat, but I may have to take it yet again to a luthier near me and drop several hundred dollars to have a Belgian bridge made and fitted.
im going to julie reed in a few days to get a new bridge, i want to ask her If i can get a hybrid of the two
Hi.. how about the width of their leg? Are they have same width? Can we just replace the french bridge to belgium one?
The width has to be chosen to the most ideal situation of every instrument. They exist in all measurements; if not available the violinmaker needs to cut the bridge out of a piece of maple.
Of course you can change from one style to another. But in any case the bridge needs to be fitted properly to the instrument’s situation. A work which takes me at least 4 hours of work.
Smashing on a piece which looks like a bridge is a different way of violinmaking than how I proceed. That’s why this channel exists as it is and that’s why I explain all these apparently tiny details.
If you want to save you end up with something which looks the same but doesn’t work at its full potential!
Yes or yes?
All the best from Cremona
Edgar
@@EdgarRuss Thank you for responses.
Since we can adjust the position of the sound post but not the bass bar so we have to choose the bridge that match to the bass bar position?
Best Regards from Indonesia.
andre stp
Why do violin an cello go up in value as they get older?
John, Thank you for the nice challenging question!
I have been thinking for one day and there would be so much to answer. But the best answer to keep things short here is: Because human life has an expiry date.
That's why you should invest now in yourself and in a violin of mine!
enjoy life
Edgar