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It’s because Covington hasn’t been using him right. Keion White is not an Edge Rusher! But he is a definite power rusher in the middle! Also most of our starters have been injured. But we need a solidified Edge Rusher. I feel like Barhmore x White in the middle they’ll create some insane pressure. But even BB himself was using Barhmore as a LE than a DT/Nose tackle. But if they’re losing players in the locker room then that’s a bad sign. Because I watched all of the patriots games this season, Keion White was always playing hard every play. Literally I would see him on the opposite side of the field and him running across the field to tackle the defender. That’s a player you really need to keep around, because he is willing to give everything he has each play.
yep,but if he won't do it-trade him for something!should have drafted that samoan DE dude that la chargers took,way better or drew sanders who denver took.he's had an attitude since the day the pats drafted him.
Keion White could greatly benefit from a stud Dl on the opposite end. Many good players become much better when the Opponent online has to choose between who to double-team and who not to. On another note, Mayo must tell the team to stop airing their grievances in the open. B.B. would never tolerate that.
@@jayy88 You're isolating one player who has given everything to the Patriots. Gronk is a first-ballot HOF and has contributed as much to the Patriot's success as any other player has. B.B., in the end, was hanging on too much to his old ways.
@@nm4698 ok and you said Bill would never allow that which just want true it happened with other players to Mankins Welker Moss Gilmore Mac I’m sure there’s others
Keion White was snubbed by every Team in the draft! I remember his reaction to being drafted by the Pat's .. Don't interview with the press. Bad draft and teammate , Bye, Bye White ! Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out the door.
He ain’t going no where. They won’t get a second round pick back for him, and ain’t going to just cut a third year second round pick. If he holds out they’ll fine him to hell until he starts participating again, and on a rookie contract he can’t afford those fines.
If he is not putting out the professional effort, then it is a coaching and team issue, since he is young. I hope the team can work it out. 6 is my rating. He will be great trade bait if he has to go. Player personnel department needs to have plans to replace every position, all the time.
Get rid of the coaching staff. These players don’t want their careers torpedoed because of bad coaching. They are tired of the distinction in the organization. It’s one thing when your defensive coaches are prepared. Of course players will keep things internally. It’s another thing when coaches are not prepared.
*Fire Mayo. What coordinators are going to want to go to New England if Mayo is constantly making blunders and throwing others under the bus. He sets lofty goals then dials them back when he gets called out on them for not coming to fruition. Fire Mayo, Fire Wolf, Hire Vrabel, McDaniels(OC) and Salah(DC) and try to bring back Casserio to be GM.*
@polandfresh101 you actually thought this team was any good? Last time I checked the greatest coach of all time got fired with a better team than this..
@@ericallen8263 The team last year wasn’t better. Mac Jones was a disaster and they rightfully moved on from him. The defense had pretty much the same personnel and played substantially better because they were better coached/ran a better scheme. When it comes to the level of ineptitude displayed this season, all roads lead to Mayo.
@polandfresh101 The same personel on defense? No judon no bently no barmore...Jonathan Jones is old oh wait I forgot about peppers being out for how long? And I'm sure I'm forgetting some..It's absolute foolishness not to give this staff another year and I'm not interested in a coaching carousel..
@@ericallen8263 Judon was injured most of last season… Anyways, I get the viewpoint of not wanting to get rid of a coach after one bad season because that’s a common thing bad organizations do….however I just think Mayo is never going to be a good coach. I’d rather they cut ties now while they know they should have a replacement (Vrabel) ready to go.
Can you imagine if every guy on a bad football team just quit? Most sub-500 teams would evaporate. Thankfully, there are MEN in the league who can handle a loss, who can handle adversity, and good coaches or not they find a way to make sure they themselves are giving what they can. This is some mighty negative talk coming from a guy with zero production for these cold months this year. Man-up, ball-out, and give what you've got to your awesome team or your terrible team. Simple.
After today I can't really believe Bob Kraft will stay with Mayo as HC if Mike Vrabel is available. No free agents will even consider playing for NE if Mayo is HC.
White isn't being used in a way that best utilizes his skill set. He's not a edge rusher or edge setter, he does really really well on the line up the middle
I played football for 20 years high school college and semi pro. I have played on some losing teams. When the year comes to an end, people are just upset sometimes depressed because they want to be in the playoffs. They are very competitive. Then when the season is over, you get back into camp, you start getting that juices going again and the excitement comes back, especially when the team brings in a couple. Good free agents or drafts a couple good players. You know you have a very good quarterback. Keon will be back. He’s just upset right now. He wants to win a Super Bowl. He just needs to give it some time.
Gonna have to fly a banner over Gillette, Kraft we sick of this shitty team, and your players and fans are not happy. Patriots better not fumble this offseason, you will lose the fan base
Keep VP as QB Coach, move Mayo to D Coordinator, Hire either Vrable or Saleh as HC. We lost Barmore and Judon, but the D should not drop this far off without bad coaching. Not sure on O-Coordinator as McDaniel's system is overly complex and not mobile QB optimized
Keion's ceiling has no limits, he's basically telling us the Defensive Coordinator isn't the right guy for the job, and possibly he thinks the same way about Mayo.
Since week 2 Keion has been getting double or triple teamed. And there’s no one else providing edge pressure. Covington turned a top 10 defense into one of the worst. If Washington and New England offer similar contracts to FA what team do you think they are going to?
Keion is just speaking his mind everyone is frustrated. Caeden Wallace got activated off IR start him at RT cut Demontry Jacobs, Start Cole Strange at C
"Its year two, dude" Allie, they are going backwards and getting worse in every way including he locker room. Mayo is the problem, not players who are tired of looking awful every week because they have no coaching
You can’t compare him to gonzo that shows you only know stats… d line is a coordinated group can’t generate stats without a cohesive unit. Cb can operate 1 on 1 if it’s man
Belichick's thing was putting players in a position where they could succeed based on their skillset, whatever that skillset may be. Is Keion White being utilized that way? He might be taking one for the team because of need, which is a shitty position to be in.
If you exchanged straight up Jerod Mayo for Andy Reid, the Chiefs would no longer be contenders in the Super Bowl and the Patriots would no longer be 3-12.
Keion is under contract for two more years. If he wants spend them holding out and pouting feel free. I'm weary of wealthy athletes crying when things don't go their way.
this will be his second season on a 3 win team. He knows he has two years left that means he doesn’t believe that this coaching staff is capable of winning games.
He’ll be back next season. Dudes going into his third year, and has done nothing. No one’s going to trade for him, and the Patriots are going to let a 2nd round pick just walk away because his feelings are hurt. Especially because he doesn’t have the production to get us a second round pick back. He holds out they’ll just fine him to hell, and on a rookie contract he can’t afford that. This is, and will continue to be his team. He only has himself to blame for his production as well. The king of playing for himself, and outside of the position and his role every play. Maybe if he stuck to the plays he’d have some better looking stats.
COvington and Wolffe...Mayo, Maybe AVP need to go..Keep Wolffe away from the draft room!! We can't wait another 5 years for Mayo to grow!! bring in Vrabel, with his contacts..and get some REAL football minds in..they are totally unwatchable..forget paying $300 for a seat to watch this product...stop paying to attend games, buying shirts and hats, and ridiculous parking prices until the Krafts fix this mess
Not just Keon White going to leave. Even more concerned that no player, no free agent, no coordinator is going to want to come to this clown show, guess you could always overpay !!. Bite the bullet and start with a clean slate. Yes RK, your cred is going to take a hit, so do you want to admit you were wrong about JM and do whats best for the team, or do you want to piece meal this for another couple of years and ultimately rebuild again. Please don't talk about the roster, you are paying a multimillon dollar salary to a guy that looks completley clueless on the sideline and regresses week after week with basic expectations of leadership and communication.
2nd choice in draft is worth protecting. Play all the young guys who may be on the bubble. A victory in either of the remaining games does more damage than value. Dont get punked in the draft positioning by the Bills again!!
Maybe White has been speaking to Polk. Trade both of them, both underperforming. Judon did well once he got traded. Get Vrabel & McDaniels back for next season. Mayo is out of his depth, makes statements then backs down on them, Mayo through AVP under the bus on 4th down call, your the HC Mayo!!! You make the call or override the call, blame everyone else except yourself. You need to look in the mirror Mayo.
Y’all making something out of nothing and taking everything someone says way out of context and writing/saying y’all’s interpretation of what he’s saying. God forbid a player or a coach tries to just be real with us and themselves and y’all wanna crucify them for it.
It's Mayo and his pal Covington that suck n need to go. Press tearing team apart? What team? Absurd. It's the 60s to the 90s Pats football, back in vogue now, after 20 yr miracle. Pats are not a gd team n won't b again. Maye will b Plunkett , great with suck team. Never getting anywhere here with the lowly Kraft Pats. Sell the team Krafty Bob .
He’s not happy he’s not playing as good as he thinks he can play. ( maybe due to play calling, no other talent to help him break out ) defensively This chick sucks 😂 nothing but bs out here other mouth. But what can you expect from a channel that’s last to break news 😂😂
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Trade him to Atlanta then! Maybe they will give you there second round pick!
If new coaching staff and some O-L and D- edge talent is acquired he could still be a valuable piece of the solution.
It’s because Covington hasn’t been using him right. Keion White is not an Edge Rusher! But he is a definite power rusher in the middle! Also most of our starters have been injured. But we need a solidified Edge Rusher. I feel like Barhmore x White in the middle they’ll create some insane pressure. But even BB himself was using Barhmore as a LE than a DT/Nose tackle. But if they’re losing players in the locker room then that’s a bad sign. Because I watched all of the patriots games this season, Keion White was always playing hard every play. Literally I would see him on the opposite side of the field and him running across the field to tackle the defender. That’s a player you really need to keep around, because he is willing to give everything he has each play.
yep,but if he won't do it-trade him for something!should have drafted that samoan DE dude that la chargers took,way better or drew sanders who denver took.he's had an attitude since the day the pats drafted him.
Man you're being extremely dramatic 😂screw him if he wants out! He isnt productive enough for us to care how he feels
Keion White could greatly benefit from a stud Dl on the opposite end. Many good players become much better when the Opponent online has to choose between who to double-team and who not to. On another note, Mayo must tell the team to stop airing their grievances in the open. B.B. would never tolerate that.
Gronk literally quit on the team with Bill as coach. Crazy how quickly people forget stuff that happened under Bill
@@jayy88 You're isolating one player who has given everything to the Patriots. Gronk is a first-ballot HOF and has contributed as much to the Patriot's success as any other player has. B.B., in the end, was hanging on too much to his old ways.
@@nm4698 ok and you said Bill would never allow that which just want true it happened with other players to Mankins Welker Moss Gilmore Mac I’m sure there’s others
Keion White was snubbed by every Team in the draft! I remember his reaction to being drafted by the Pat's .. Don't interview with the press. Bad draft and teammate , Bye, Bye White ! Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out the door.
He ain’t going no where. They won’t get a second round pick back for him, and ain’t going to just cut a third year second round pick. If he holds out they’ll fine him to hell until he starts participating again, and on a rookie contract he can’t afford those fines.
If he is not putting out the professional effort, then it is a coaching and team issue, since he is young. I hope the team can work it out. 6 is my rating. He will be great trade bait if he has to go. Player personnel department needs to have plans to replace every position, all the time.
Judon was a great trade away. White we don't know if he is good. Two good games is not saying he is great. Trade him if the offer is good
Get rid of the coaching staff. These players don’t want their careers torpedoed because of bad coaching. They are tired of the distinction in the organization. It’s one thing when your defensive coaches are prepared. Of course players will keep things internally. It’s another thing when coaches are not prepared.
Funny how Gronk literally quit playing football under Bill. But everyone just forgets that
Sure seems to be the case here. Can't judge the office staff from my seat but Craft needs to take a look there too.
What you should be concerned about is barmore
Coaching staff is very terrible.. Especially on defense.. This coaches thinks that this job is only for ther resume😂
*Fire Mayo. What coordinators are going to want to go to New England if Mayo is constantly making blunders and throwing others under the bus. He sets lofty goals then dials them back when he gets called out on them for not coming to fruition. Fire Mayo, Fire Wolf, Hire Vrabel, McDaniels(OC) and Salah(DC) and try to bring back Casserio to be GM.*
I'm on board with all of this!!
Keion will be back next season, stupid news
He Should Come Back & We Need To Fire The DC After The Season 😡
@shaunwilson-7718 need to get rid of Mayo , he's lost, not head coach material
@ryanstevenson1364 Yeah You're Right Shit I Would Fire Both Coaches
Get rid of all of them no gm anyway
He might
great show
He wants out on a rookie contract???
That will never happen!
1 because he's under contract. I'm of belief Patriots need to take Abdul Carter before anyone else. Dude's Micah Parsons 2.0!
Seems to me the boston media is hell bent on tearing this team apart
Mayo has done enough of that on his own.
A reset is necessary.
@polandfresh101 you actually thought this team was any good? Last time I checked the greatest coach of all time got fired with a better team than this..
@@ericallen8263 The team last year wasn’t better. Mac Jones was a disaster and they rightfully moved on from him. The defense had pretty much the same personnel and played substantially better because they were better coached/ran a better scheme.
When it comes to the level of ineptitude displayed this season, all roads lead to Mayo.
@polandfresh101 The same personel on defense? No judon no bently no barmore...Jonathan Jones is old oh wait I forgot about peppers being out for how long? And I'm sure I'm forgetting some..It's absolute foolishness not to give this staff another year and I'm not interested in a coaching carousel..
@@ericallen8263 Judon was injured most of last season…
Anyways, I get the viewpoint of not wanting to get rid of a coach after one bad season because that’s a common thing bad organizations do….however I just think Mayo is never going to be a good coach. I’d rather they cut ties now while they know they should have a replacement (Vrabel) ready to go.
Can you imagine if every guy on a bad football team just quit? Most sub-500 teams would evaporate. Thankfully, there are MEN in the league who can handle a loss, who can handle adversity, and good coaches or not they find a way to make sure they themselves are giving what they can. This is some mighty negative talk coming from a guy with zero production for these cold months this year. Man-up, ball-out, and give what you've got to your awesome team or your terrible team. Simple.
After today I can't really believe Bob Kraft will stay with Mayo as HC if Mike Vrabel is available. No free agents will even consider playing for NE if Mayo is HC.
He may be a good fill in next season but the power in his legs wont last a whole season
Cole Strange another failed bill pick
White isn't being used in a way that best utilizes his skill set. He's not a edge rusher or edge setter, he does really really well on the line up the middle
Anyone that wants out, get'em out now we will laugh later 😉
They need to fire Mayo this offseason or he will cause even more damage next season. He’s an absolute embarrassment.
I played football for 20 years high school college and semi pro. I have played on some losing teams. When the year comes to an end, people are just upset sometimes depressed because they want to be in the playoffs. They are very competitive. Then when the season is over, you get back into camp, you start getting that juices going again and the excitement comes back, especially when the team brings in a couple. Good free agents or drafts a couple good players. You know you have a very good quarterback. Keon will be back. He’s just upset right now. He wants to win a Super Bowl. He just needs to give it some time.
Jerod Mayo gotta go!
This is the point I was tryna make a while ago of why the hell we let Nic Leverrette go. Just dumb. But let's go cole strange. Welcome back bro
Idk about going live for every single patriots game at the expense of the world champion Celtics games sometimes…
No worries !
Gonna have to fly a banner over Gillette, Kraft we sick of this shitty team, and your players and fans are not happy. Patriots better not fumble this offseason, you will lose the fan base
KW is having a hell of a season for a 2nd year player. Would be ashamed to see him go.
Keep VP as QB Coach, move Mayo to D Coordinator, Hire either Vrable or Saleh as HC. We lost Barmore and Judon, but the D should not drop this far off without bad coaching. Not sure on O-Coordinator as McDaniel's system is overly complex and not mobile QB optimized
is that what Keion White said? It seems to me he is disappointed in his play, but not blaming coaches or asking to leave or am I missing his comments?
No the media just wants to use anything to pile onto the coaches he literally said HE needs to play better.
Bring vrabel and McDaniel and Salah and you going to see a different team. 11 - 6 with this coaching staff. Imagine drake and McDaniel !
No it not dude
@marquisehicks2677 so tell me WHO?
@ just wait it out dude we need real fucking talent we just gotta build
Keion's ceiling has no limits, he's basically telling us the Defensive Coordinator isn't the right guy for the job, and possibly he thinks the same way about Mayo.
Since week 2 Keion has been getting double or triple teamed. And there’s no one else providing edge pressure. Covington turned a top 10 defense into one of the worst. If Washington and New England offer similar contracts to FA what team do you think they are going to?
Keion is just speaking his mind everyone is frustrated.
Caeden Wallace got activated off IR start him at RT cut Demontry Jacobs, Start Cole Strange at C
"Its year two, dude" Allie, they are going backwards and getting worse in every way including he locker room. Mayo is the problem, not players who are tired of looking awful every week because they have no coaching
You can’t compare him to gonzo that shows you only know stats… d line is a coordinated group can’t generate stats without a cohesive unit. Cb can operate 1 on 1 if it’s man
Giving the keion white answer, without the question is unbelievably disingenuous. CONTEXT MATTERS
1,2,3 Cancun
Shit I'll say get rid off him he's replaceable
Belichick's thing was putting players in a position where they could succeed based on their skillset, whatever that skillset may be. Is Keion White being utilized that way? He might be taking one for the team because of need, which is a shitty position to be in.
If you exchanged straight up Jerod Mayo for Andy Reid, the Chiefs would no longer be contenders in the Super Bowl and the Patriots would no longer be 3-12.
Keion is under contract for two more years. If he wants spend them holding out and pouting feel free. I'm weary of wealthy athletes crying when things don't go their way.
this will be his second season on a 3 win team. He knows he has two years left that means he doesn’t believe that this coaching staff is capable of winning games.
If Kieon wants out let him request a trade who cares? More draft picks for us
He’ll be back next season. Dudes going into his third year, and has done nothing. No one’s going to trade for him, and the Patriots are going to let a 2nd round pick just walk away because his feelings are hurt. Especially because he doesn’t have the production to get us a second round pick back. He holds out they’ll just fine him to hell, and on a rookie contract he can’t afford that. This is, and will continue to be his team. He only has himself to blame for his production as well. The king of playing for himself, and outside of the position and his role every play. Maybe if he stuck to the plays he’d have some better looking stats.
Im 5'7 130lbs and im ready to replace keion white. Just give me a call jerod!!?
I wouldnt play Cole Strange. He is coming off a major injury. There's nothing left in this season worth risking him for.
Cole strange isnt good either 😅.. his less than mid at pass protection.. and not a top tier run blocker .
Seahawks today is diabolical 😂😂
We need to put all the young players in no starters we dont need to win man
COvington and Wolffe...Mayo, Maybe AVP need to go..Keep Wolffe away from the draft room!! We can't wait another 5 years for Mayo to grow!! bring in Vrabel, with his contacts..and get some REAL football minds in..they are totally unwatchable..forget paying $300 for a seat to watch this product...stop paying to attend games, buying shirts and hats, and ridiculous parking prices until the Krafts fix this mess
Isn’t parking free? I also see tickets for like $100 please come with facts next time
Let him leave, he can be replaced
With whom?
@bbwng54 any free agent
@@bbwng54anyone he hasn’t done anything in months. He wouldn’t start for any other team
Just send him back home to Carolina
Guy wouldn’t even start for 90% of teams in the league. Dude is lucky he’s still starting here when he’s done nothing for almost 2 months
Keion wants a real HC, not a wannabe CEO with the consistency of pudding
I mean he is good I want him to stay but he aint gonzo
Keon white needs to be traded anyone that doesn’t want to be on the team should be traded or cut .
Not just Keon White going to leave. Even more concerned that no player, no free agent, no coordinator is going to want to come to this clown show, guess you could always overpay !!. Bite the bullet and start with a clean slate. Yes RK, your cred is going to take a hit, so do you want to admit you were wrong about JM and do whats best for the team, or do you want to piece meal this for another couple of years and ultimately rebuild again. Please don't talk about the roster, you are paying a multimillon dollar salary to a guy that looks completley clueless on the sideline and regresses week after week with basic expectations of leadership and communication.
2nd choice in draft is worth protecting. Play all the young guys who may be on the bubble. A victory in either of the remaining games does more damage than value. Dont get punked in the draft positioning by the Bills again!!
He obviously don’t have no help around him
Maybe White has been speaking to Polk. Trade both of them, both underperforming. Judon did well once he got traded. Get Vrabel & McDaniels back for next season. Mayo is out of his depth, makes statements then backs down on them, Mayo through AVP under the bus on 4th down call, your the HC Mayo!!! You make the call or override the call, blame everyone else except yourself. You need to look in the mirror Mayo.
Dude has had 1 sack since week 3
Get rid of white he's been a big problem this whole year he never wanted to play here trade him.
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gang he ain't done a thing for us. who cares
Y’all making something out of nothing and taking everything someone says way out of context and writing/saying y’all’s interpretation of what he’s saying. God forbid a player or a coach tries to just be real with us and themselves and y’all wanna crucify them for it.
Keion white is th eone person generating presuure. He isn't getting sacks cause he is getting doubled and no one else is winning their oen on ones
Soft against the run and is kind of arrogant and entitled. Trade him!
$$$ Money talks and bullshit walks $$$
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The team overall is trash from oline to soft ahhh dline to every position trash
It's Mayo and his pal Covington that suck n need to go. Press tearing team apart? What team? Absurd. It's the 60s to the 90s Pats football, back in vogue now, after 20 yr miracle. Pats are not a gd team n won't b again. Maye will b Plunkett , great with suck team. Never getting anywhere here with the lowly Kraft Pats. Sell the team Krafty Bob .
He’s not happy he’s not playing as good as he thinks he can play. ( maybe due to play calling, no other talent to help him break out ) defensively
This chick sucks 😂 nothing but bs out here other mouth. But what can you expect from a channel that’s last to break news 😂😂
This show sucks.
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