Great review, I picked up one of these about a month ago and I absoltley love this thing. My son brought my Honeycomb Yoke and I have been blown away at how precise this thing is. I do have the Airbus side stick but I prefer flyng the Fenix with this. I have been tweaking the sensitivity curves after I came across a video by EasyJet Sim Pilot, if you haven't already try dropping the sensitivity of the pitch and roll axis to -50%. i found it makes a huge difference in how precise the Fenix now feels. You can also leave that curve on Zero and put the extreamity deazone to 50%. Doing this you do lose a little max control authority but being it is still linear it is super smooth and precise. I will probably stick with this method. I now find myself hand flying SIDS & STARS and there is far more fine control on final approach. It was a game chamger for me. In the past I had dabbled with these curves but never taken them this far.
I got mine for coming on a year now I think and had issues with it not long after getting it. Messages Thrustmaster and sent it over to them and they had it fixed in about three days and it’s been perfect ever since. Such a great tool for practicing in the sim at home and I can’t praise Thrustmasters customer support enough
Transition to Yoke is quite a unique experience and can only be done once. Almost 10 years ago I have my first touch on saitek yoke at school and it took me quite few flight to get used to , then went back on my own stick for another few years, but when I start my simulator drill on 737, it surprised me how easy this time it have been. And same thing for left/right said hand transition, once you got it, you got it, transition back after years is not a problem. I still use a side stick on my home setup, A solid metal mechanical VKB gunfighter works fine for me even when flying Boeings, while my desk have no place to mount a yoke anyway.
Great review, I can’t get over the quality of all ur videos. All your shots are just perfect, and a voice that ain’t so bad to listen to on top of that 😂
Great review thank you very much! I was on the fence over the Honeycomb equipment given there situation. Fancy an upgrade when the 777 comes out as currently only have a Warthog setup. Think I shall reconsider this one 😊 New subscriber 😊
@@AirNOTT I know this is a month old and you might have gotten caught up on the situation by now. But basically the founder has been getting screwed by his ex partner, he owns the company that “owns” Honeycomb. Snakebyte owns the domain and all the backend, but Nicki apparently owns all of the trademarks and designs. So there’s been a lot of back and forth between the two about who actually owns the company. If it goes back to Nicki, I would definitely consider Honeycomb again. But if Snakebyte takes full control, I wouldn’t bother with how poorly they’ve handled the business over the last year or two.
My home built sim is based on the a320, and mimics it very closely. With that, Ive still been considering the boeing yoke for use with pmdg and the inibuilds a300.
Its a great yoke, very sturdy and confortable but I had to send mine back for repair after a few months of use with a glitch in the roll sensors. It's now fixed and working great but I hope they review they wiring and electronics in future productions to make justice to an otherwise great piece of hardware.
It's great for pitch control since roll and pitch inputs are segregated. However, I the HC Alpha has a few other advantages, being higher quality materials and switch gear and a flat top to put a keyboard on.
Awesome review airnott! Doesn’t feel as long as a year ago that you got the yoke haha, almost at 10k subs too! (Btw its jalice11 i changed my username and stuff)
Great review! I would really like to buy this, I currently have the Airbus TCA Captain pack with the flap and spoiler additions and the sidestick, and I fly the 738 and A320/N pretty equally so I do use the sidestick in the 738 and 789. I agree with you, it does feel 'wrong' and I love the fact this yoke offers the pedular feel and experience but the price has always been the tricky part for me, it's a hefty price tag and up to this point I've prioritised spending of rudder pedals and PC upgrades, but one day I think I will be biting the bullet (maybe the triple will be enough to convice me!).
Good review, thanks, am considering this product and currently own the Honeycomb yoke, also I mostly fly GA aircraft and the Honeycomb yoke does suffer from stiction while pushing and pulling, even though I've modded it with suitable grease, but this design even meant for airliners ... perhaps would be smoother for GA Aircraft too???? Just learning to adapt?? Own a couple of PDMG Airliners for FS2020 and interested in more, but mainly a GA flyer for FS2020 and X-Plane, ETC. Also and quite importantly, bought an X-Box Series X on a whim recently and installed FS2020 on it, this yoke would be ideal it seems. I do fly other types and inc military DCS ETC, but well served there already :)
Is it worth buying it? I don't know if it's safe to spend €500 on a product and end up with something either beautiful or worth throwing away, let me know!
I have a question, i have the airbus joystick and the quadrant with the sppedbrakes and flaps. I want to buy the yoke with the throttle but i am not elon musk so i dont have a lot of money. Can i use the yoke with the airbus throttle (with the flaps and speedbrakes)?
Can’t 100% confirm with the flaps and speedbrakes as I don’t have them, however I use the yoke with just the standard Thrustmaster Airbus throttles and it works great
I love the yoke unfortunately I had a issue out the box with one of the TCA Boeing Quadrant Axis it was loose(the physical handle) and calibration was annoying even resorting to me trying FSUIPC7 to no avail(can’t figure it out) called thrustmaster to report the issue and now I’m going to get a new quadrant(they almost sent another yoke😂) so I’ll have 2 yaaay I can run the 2 throttle speed brake flaps setups. As for the yoke I love it but I don’t have rudder pedals yet 🤞 so I had to bind my rudder to the joystick on the right it’s not bad but imagine a cross wind landing and I still have to activate reverse thrust😂 Still I love the combo and can’t wait for the pedals
Is this yoke good for flying smaller planes like like private jets or even military jets? I'm looking to buy this for my sons bday who will be turning 9 I a few days
For flying military stuff, I’d probably go with a stick. I run this and the Thrustmaster Airbus stick to the left so I can get the best of both worlds. The yoke is absolutely wonderful, but the stick gets you a really long way without making your wallet cry
Depends what you like to fly. The side stick, while much much cheaper is a great way to fly Airbus. If Boeing if your thing, it’s gotta be the yoke if you’re not price sensitive. Or, do what I did and run both 🫡
What’s your sensitivity setting on the yoke? I have been having some issues where my physical yoke is neutral but the in sim yoke is roll left during rotation.
Yep, that’s right. A £300-ish 43” 60hz LG TV. Honestly, I kinda have half a mind to swap it out as it lacks variable refresh rate and my sim doesn’t reliably hit 60 frames, so I have to lock it to 30 to avoid tearing
Great review, I picked up one of these about a month ago and I absoltley love this thing. My son brought my Honeycomb Yoke and I have been blown away at how precise this thing is. I do have the Airbus side stick but I prefer flyng the Fenix with this. I have been tweaking the sensitivity curves after I came across a video by EasyJet Sim Pilot, if you haven't already try dropping the sensitivity of the pitch and roll axis to -50%. i found it makes a huge difference in how precise the Fenix now feels. You can also leave that curve on Zero and put the extreamity deazone to 50%. Doing this you do lose a little max control authority but being it is still linear it is super smooth and precise. I will probably stick with this method. I now find myself hand flying SIDS & STARS and there is far more fine control on final approach. It was a game chamger for me. In the past I had dabbled with these curves but never taken them this far.
I got mine for coming on a year now I think and had issues with it not long after getting it. Messages Thrustmaster and sent it over to them and they had it fixed in about three days and it’s been perfect ever since. Such a great tool for practicing in the sim at home and I can’t praise Thrustmasters customer support enough
Fair play to them, that’s awesome to hear. I never hold it against a company if something goes wrong, so long as they deal with it properly
Had the same experience, good customer service 👍
Transition to Yoke is quite a unique experience and can only be done once. Almost 10 years ago I have my first touch on saitek yoke at school and it took me quite few flight to get used to , then went back on my own stick for another few years, but when I start my simulator drill on 737, it surprised me how easy this time it have been.
And same thing for left/right said hand transition, once you got it, you got it, transition back after years is not a problem.
I still use a side stick on my home setup, A solid metal mechanical VKB gunfighter works fine for me even when flying Boeings, while my desk have no place to mount a yoke anyway.
Great review and thanks for the tip re: 4th spring installation! I'm holding off for now, until there's a price drop but it looks great!
Great review, I can’t get over the quality of all ur videos. All your shots are just perfect, and a voice that ain’t so bad to listen to on top of that 😂
Appreciate it, thanks!
Love the Boeing yoke and throttle quadrant setup.
Thank you for this video!
Glad it was helpful!
Great review thank you very much! I was on the fence over the Honeycomb equipment given there situation. Fancy an upgrade when the 777 comes out as currently only have a Warthog setup. Think I shall reconsider this one 😊 New subscriber 😊
Thanks for subbing! Can I ask what you mean by their situation?
@@AirNOTT I know this is a month old and you might have gotten caught up on the situation by now. But basically the founder has been getting screwed by his ex partner, he owns the company that “owns” Honeycomb. Snakebyte owns the domain and all the backend, but Nicki apparently owns all of the trademarks and designs. So there’s been a lot of back and forth between the two about who actually owns the company. If it goes back to Nicki, I would definitely consider Honeycomb again. But if Snakebyte takes full control, I wouldn’t bother with how poorly they’ve handled the business over the last year or two.
My home built sim is based on the a320, and mimics it very closely. With that, Ive still been considering the boeing yoke for use with pmdg and the inibuilds a300.
Its a great yoke, very sturdy and confortable but I had to send mine back for repair after a few months of use with a glitch in the roll sensors. It's now fixed and working great but I hope they review they wiring and electronics in future productions to make justice to an otherwise great piece of hardware.
It's great for pitch control since roll and pitch inputs are segregated. However, I the HC Alpha has a few other advantages, being higher quality materials and switch gear and a flat top to put a keyboard on.
Awesome review airnott! Doesn’t feel as long as a year ago that you got the yoke haha, almost at 10k subs too! (Btw its jalice11 i changed my username and stuff)
Great review! I would really like to buy this, I currently have the Airbus TCA Captain pack with the flap and spoiler additions and the sidestick, and I fly the 738 and A320/N pretty equally so I do use the sidestick in the 738 and 789. I agree with you, it does feel 'wrong' and I love the fact this yoke offers the pedular feel and experience but the price has always been the tricky part for me, it's a hefty price tag and up to this point I've prioritised spending of rudder pedals and PC upgrades, but one day I think I will be biting the bullet (maybe the triple will be enough to convice me!).
You sound exactly like me around 6 months before I eventually ended up buying it 😅
Great video AirNOTT hope you are doing well!
Very well thanks, Sid! Possibly about to follow in your footsteps with a 7800X3D 🙂
@@AirNOTT you won’t regret it!
Good review, thanks, am considering this product and currently own the Honeycomb yoke, also I mostly fly GA aircraft and the Honeycomb yoke does suffer from stiction while pushing and pulling, even though I've modded it with suitable grease, but this design even meant for airliners ... perhaps would be smoother for GA Aircraft too???? Just learning to adapt??
Own a couple of PDMG Airliners for FS2020 and interested in more, but mainly a GA flyer for FS2020 and X-Plane, ETC.
Also and quite importantly, bought an X-Box Series X on a whim recently and installed FS2020 on it, this yoke would be ideal it seems.
I do fly other types and inc military DCS ETC, but well served there already :)
Bought this yoke ahead of the upcoming 777 release. Opted to get a used one at a pretty good price. Fingers crossed it isn’t faulty
Is there gonna be a 777 version?
@@yazikhodayar idk
Excellent review - thank you. Can you share your MSFS Sensitivity settings using this yoke please?
I’ve left it all alone. Only I changed was adding the fourth spring to make the yoke feel a bit heavier
one thing is the price man i feel i would have had this already but the price is a huge commitment
Yeah it’s not cheap. I managed to pick mine up on a deal. Keep an eye open, you might get lucky
Is it worth buying it? I don't know if it's safe to spend €500 on a product and end up with something either beautiful or worth throwing away, let me know!
can you do a review of the side stick. I have been considering buying one
I have a question, i have the airbus joystick and the quadrant with the sppedbrakes and flaps. I want to buy the yoke with the throttle but i am not elon musk so i dont have a lot of money. Can i use the yoke with the airbus throttle (with the flaps and speedbrakes)?
Can’t 100% confirm with the flaps and speedbrakes as I don’t have them, however I use the yoke with just the standard Thrustmaster Airbus throttles and it works great
What the fuck is that sound starting at 02:17?
Great review!
Quite honestly I don’t know! Maybe my tumble dryer in the next room 😅
Great Video!
But I have a question, why don’t you have the thrustmaster airbus “throttle addons” with the flap and airbrake levers?
Money haha
@@AirNOTT ok
I love the yoke unfortunately I had a issue out the box with one of the TCA Boeing Quadrant Axis it was loose(the physical handle) and calibration was annoying even resorting to me trying FSUIPC7 to no avail(can’t figure it out) called thrustmaster to report the issue and now I’m going to get a new quadrant(they almost sent another yoke😂) so I’ll have 2 yaaay I can run the 2 throttle speed brake flaps setups. As for the yoke I love it but I don’t have rudder pedals yet 🤞 so I had to bind my rudder to the joystick on the right it’s not bad but imagine a cross wind landing and I still have to activate reverse thrust😂 Still I love the combo and can’t wait for the pedals
Do you fly x plane or do you prefer MSFS?
What desk do you have with the knee shelves for the side stick and throttle
Home made. Just worktop from ikea
@@AirNOTT think I'll be doing the same. Makes swapping stuff around so much easier than having it bolted down to something
Does it still have deadzone on x and y axis, that cant be adjuster/removed???
Is this yoke good for flying smaller planes like like private jets or even military jets? I'm looking to buy this for my sons bday who will be turning 9 I a few days
For flying military stuff, I’d probably go with a stick. I run this and the Thrustmaster Airbus stick to the left so I can get the best of both worlds. The yoke is absolutely wonderful, but the stick gets you a really long way without making your wallet cry
@@AirNOTT thx
Does the yoke feel like it’s going to loosen out from the table?
No, never. It’s got a really solid clamp system that mounts it to the desk
Thinking of getting either the Side stick or the yoke. What one do you think would be best? Money is no issue.
Depends what you like to fly. The side stick, while much much cheaper is a great way to fly Airbus. If Boeing if your thing, it’s gotta be the yoke if you’re not price sensitive. Or, do what I did and run both 🫡
Heyoo, do you prefer the fenix A320 or the PMDG 737? Cheers.
Both are great. Probably lean towards Boeing though
Are you able to test the Boeing yoke with the Airbus throttle on XBOX? I am interested to know whether it will work.
No xbox here, sorry!
What’s your sensitivity setting on the yoke? I have been having some issues where my physical yoke is neutral but the in sim yoke is roll left during rotation.
I’ve not touched the sensitivities. Besides adding the fourth spring I’ve just kept it like it was out of the box
Great review @AirNott
Thanks! 🙏
what for screen have u? i need a big one to hahaha. is it a TV?
Yep, that’s right. A £300-ish 43” 60hz LG TV. Honestly, I kinda have half a mind to swap it out as it lacks variable refresh rate and my sim doesn’t reliably hit 60 frames, so I have to lock it to 30 to avoid tearing
thanks@@AirNOTT