@@JohnSmith-pn2vl The most people complaining here are comparing 10 and 11 on a same computer. Live 11 is much more CPU intensive on a several different computers that I tested (PC and Mac intel/m1)
@@shejustlikestofight Opening your default session must spike your CPU. It stays on until you click it to reset it (similar to a clipping indicator which stays on until you reset it).
@@TjMoon91 ohhhthat makes sense, yea my default set is loaded as fuck with 6 tracks, three instrument “multi-selectors” (so like 10 instruments in total) and then 4 audio effects per track lmfao
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Just activated the High Performance power plan and this has solved the CPU issue (didn't get this issue with Maschine). Thanks for the tips.
The problem is that sometimes I get random CPU spikes when a sound comes in that hasnt played for some time. After a few seconds of the sound glitching, everything works normal again. I think its a common problem with the current Live version as many people have similiar issues.
@@AGVersace100 The problem occurs less with samples but more with synths. I think the problem is that Live sort of disables the processing on certain tracks after a time to safe CPU power but doesnt reactivate them properly when needed.
@@MagicalBroetchen That's not what happens. Samples are easy for your sound card to decode during playback, whereas synth instruments will first need to generate audio before playback, in real-time. Some instruments are more process-heavy than others. For example synths which tries to emulate analogue sounds, often require more resources due to the processing required to produce the audio. On top of that, if you have any plugins, they will also need to do processing in chain before being decoded during playing. The more processing the more CPU is needed. There are a few ways to get around this, depending on your use-case; - You can increase the buffer size and lower sample rates (as explained in the video) to match your system and needs. - If this is not enough, you can either freeze or bounce the particular track into an audio file (same as freeze, but allows you to edit the sampled audio afterwards). - While not magically making things faster, a good audio interface can help with a lot of audio issues. However, keep in mind that your computer still needs to do some processing. - The most expensive one, is to upgrade your computer and/or CPU to a more powerful one. This is of course if the previous solutions don't fit you.
@@dealloc Yes, but the processing power of my system is not the problem. Those synths work flawlessly most of the time. On a large project I have an average CPU usage of about 30-40% during playback. The glitches and CPU spikes would happen, as an example, when I leave the computer for 5 minutes and start the playback again.
None of this explains why even on a heavily overspec'd computer with all updated software, loading an instance of certain plugins, even native ones, causes the cpu overload indicator to light up even when no audio is playing and usage is reported as sub 30 percent?
This depends on the plugins. Some are optimized for certain DAW's or OS Platform... so millage may vary. For example on my M1 MBP 8gb Ram, I load 1 instance of Waves Abbey Road Reverb and it quickly jumps to 50% after many many years on the market and still not being optimized, while liquidsonic's Seventh Heaven barely gets to 1%.
From what I know about CPU spikes, its simply a natural occurrence. No need to be alarmed. Its gonna spike whatever you do. The issue is if it stays that way "maxed out"
Hi, thank you for the question. The CPU Overload indicator combines the "Average" and the "Current" CPU usage to provide a precise gauge of the CPU consumption in a Set. This means that while using the "Average" setting the CPU Overload Indicator may become illuminated even though the meter does not appear to reach 100%. In cases like this, it is likely that the "Current" setting has experienced a temporary overload while the "Average" CPU consumption is below the overload threshold. If interested in learning more, please review the associated Knowledge Base article on the topic here: bit.ly/3qZ4Y1i Cheers!
Hey Ableton, it's great that you have a new cpu meter but the issue is 11 is far less cpu efficient than previous versions. The community is saying that even with running 11 on beasts of machines they are still having significant issues and your advice is to upgrade all of their software and contact technical support. The problem is ableton live 11. Nothing else.
Hi, thank you for the feedback! To verify the CPU usage scientifically, please only compare Live 10 (or earlier versions) and Live 11 using the macOS Activity monitor/Windows Task Manager by loading the same set, with the same audio device with the exact same settings (buffer size and sample rate). If this meter shows a difference between both Live versions, please get in touch with our Technical Support here: bit.ly/2c6rO3N In case you want to compare Live’s CPU meter between both versions make sure that in Live 11 “Average” is selected and focus only on the reported percentage number as the graphs can not be compared. Please also make sure to update Live to it's newest version as we improved the CPU usage of some of our new devices with our latest 11.0.5 update. Cheers!
The CPU Overload is basically allways lit in my sessions, but the counter is usually hovering around 20-30% when working. It doesnt affect anything, but its kinda annoying. Im on a mac
Same here, and I'm also using a Mac -- a basic, newer iMac w/3.0GHz i5 and 8GB RAM running Live 11 Suite. I turn the CPU overload indicator off; it only spikes when I load certain plug-ins. Considering the modest power of my computer, I run about 10 tracks on average -- always mix of plug-ins, Ableton instruments, and external audio -- and rarely get the CPU load meter over 30-35%. I've yet to see it above 50%, even with all the bells and whistles I cared to use.
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I'm finding Live 11 slow and overloading far too easily. Also, saved projects take an inordinate amount of time to load. It makes Live 11 almost unusable. There is an issue with Live's ability to load and run efficiently it seems. Please fix it.
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One thing they didn't mention, which i believe is not common knowledge, is that each track in your live set takes up a thread in your cpu. So say you have a cpu that has 8 cores. Each core has 2 threads. So ableton assigns a track to each thread and, up to 16 tracks, typically everything will run smooth. However once you get up to 17 and above things can get a bit overwhelming for your cpu because its running more than one track per thread. Ive found that if you consolidate multiple tracks into one to limit the amount of tracks it helps.
No it's not. I watch all the cores in task manager and they are all equal always. Ableton doesn't use the CPU properly. I have 8 cores and they all run on 44% and Ableton is crackling and shows 100%. I'm going to try Pro Tools side by side and see if this problem still persists. My nerves with this software are already gone.
I have an 8 core 4790k from 10 years ago and I run project with 150 tracks. The only tricks need are to avoid having really big effect chains on any one track, and to print out any instruments as soon as you're happy with them.
I've been using ableton 8 suite for about 10 years, just changed to 11 about two weeks ago and I got my first one yesterday. It just maxed out and stopped playing. For no apparent reason that I noticed.
From what I know about CPU spikes, its simply a natural occurrence. No need to be alarmed. Its gonna spike whatever you do. The issue is if it stays that way "maxed out"
@@Calebjoyemusic As I said, 11is spiking like crazy. I'm only talking a couple of channels with a couple of synths. It's not like I'm trying to run a whole orchestra. It's the first time it's happened in the last 10 years... It's obviously a live 11 bug, going by all the other comments. I used Live 8 for years with no problems. The thing is as well, I use Reason too, and it doesn't "max out", never.
LMAO instead of giving us an update to fix CPU issues, they're blaming us for not knowing "how to computer". Live 10 does not even blink at projects that make Live 11 shit the bed on my PC. It's the same system, just different versions of the program. The problem is on your end for a great deal of us who are having CPU issues with the newest version. EDIT: when I say "shit the bed" I mean "glitch out and perform significantly worse" than the same project would in 10. I'm not talking at all about what the meter is showing me, but what I'm hearing and how much my computer locks up while running the same amount of plugins I'd have in a typical session.
Hi, thank you for the feedback. We're constantly working on updates to improve Live 11 and to address possible issues that we may find in our internal testings. Should you still experience too high CPU consumption, please get in touch with our Technical Support Team along with a Status Report here: bit.ly/2c6rO3N You can find out how to create a Status Report in this article: bit.ly/2wh3GYa To verify the CPU usage scientifically, please compare Live 10 (or earlier versions) and Live 11 using the macOS Activity monitor/Windows Task Manager by loading the same set, with the same audio device with the exact same settings (buffer size and sample rate).
@@Ableton Well, considering I haven't used Live 11 since it came out due to its stability issues and you guys -just- rolled out an update that addresses those exact issues, I may not be able to reproduce them. How convenient.
I went from 9 to 11 , I could run over 30 channels of audio plus midi on 9 and my cpu never went near 20% updated to 11 and 6 channels running it started to sound like a skrillex tune .....
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Ableton is acting like the cpu meter on Live11 is already working. Every set I load into 11 is getting spikes up to +200%, when same sets are not getting near the 50% mark in Live10. Yaaaay
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Good video, thanks. The thing with Ableton is, that it doesn't use the multicore setup of modern processors giving more power in audio work. For instance, I have the very powerful 4800H AMD processor in HP Omen laptop with 8 cores, and when I monitor the actual processor load, Ableton is using one or two cores but the rest (14) processes are almost idle. So, many times I'm rendering in Ableton, rendering some video, live streaming.... and the processor is like, hey hit me with something real.
@@dealloc Thanks for the explanation. I always wondered why my computers not use the whole available power, but as you said it's very logical that actually the plugin makers should implement that option.
I didn’t know about avoiding mixing VST 2 and VST 3 within sets, I disconnect my internet via usb Wi-fi dongle, I don’t know if that got a mention, but it drops some background services from running, I also find the cognitive act of putting the dongle back in, only when needed helps me focus somewhat.
you are not alone. 11 is significant more worse in performance, its a lot more picky about CPU usage and audio runs very quickly not stable. i simply decided to stay on v10, since i dont need anything from 11
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@@Ableton Im talking about loading the exact same live set on the exact same computer with the exact same buffer settings and getting crackles on 11 when getting no crackles on 10. Im talking about actual performance and audio results. Honestly could care less what the meter says. I know the meter in 11 is faster so its going to show a lot more intermittent peaks. Im happy to send you whatever logs you need in order to get this sorted out.
@@AmeyahOfficialTV For one particularly large template I use on one of my machines, Ive had to do the exact same. I bought the 11 upgrade in preorder phase because every upgrade has been well worth it to me. This one has not been and goes unused.
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I NEED to see some Live 11 patch updates….the reviews are horrible…it has been a unanimous sigh of disappointment thus far. I still believe in you guys though
I tried Live 11 Trial, i used a single Lead from its Stock Plugins and CPU Meter went to 25-30% in Idle Mode. No Effects, nothing, just a single Lead where i did some Chords, when i played it, it went to 50-60%. Is this how you want to win new Customers ? Fix your Products before release them. And of course, Support only for Customers which have any Version of Live except Trial. My Laptop Specs: 28 GB RAM, I 5-7300HQ. Made an Screenshot of it.
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I use a Macbook Pro i9 (8 cores) 16gb. Recording a live looping with buffer size 128 and sample rate 44100, converting the clips automatically to RAM with clyphx pro, I still got "clicks" like that at 53 seconds of video (the most recent video from my channel here on TH-cam) PS: I captured Ableton's screen using another machine (Windows 10) through hdmi (normal connection, like an external video monitor) I believe the company will fix such issues in an upcoming release.
As this way helpful, I never had any issues with 10, but now I have 11 and am wondering if something was lost in this update… please give us an update to 11… if not I’ll just switch back to 10. I didn’t spend over $800 to have this program not work… it’s very frustrating 😑
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glad I didn’t upgrade (for the first time since Live 3) or the CPU requirement would have gifted me a forced vacation from producing. The new features on 11 is enticing but I’m happy with using 10 (and sometimes 8 and 9 for older project rehashes).
I get disk and CPU overload indication too often though my machine is a new i9 mac and should be powerful enough (so I would expect to get those notifications less often). Anyone else has this? Is the feature working properly?
Another thing I had is that the temp of my computer was simply too high, if its on top of a radiator or smth so ur CPU throttles and causes it to work slower
When my A/C blow hard close to my machine, my 2014 Max out 15 inch MacBook Pro run just fine with 32 buffer running 9 Kontakt VST's. This is better compare to my previous setup location that far from A/C.
Dude set your mac near a window or something where there is good ventilation and airflow. I also had the same problem.Mine is an i5 Lenovo notebook.Cpu overload indication shows even when just 1-2 midi clips are loaded and the device heated like crazy. Then I placed a cooling pad and boom all these issues were resolved.🙂 The key is proper cooling.
The only thing that helped me on my Win 11 system was to go into the advanced power plan settings and change the minimum CPU load from a default of 60% to 95%. And I'm already using a rather high-end mobile workstation. Live 11 definitely needs to be overhauled...
Same project built on 10 without any problems whatever just crashes on 11. Saw that my hard drive was getting full so went out and bought two 2TB backup drives and cleaned it out. No dice. I just went through this video and wrote down 16 things to do to try to fix the problem, but after reading all these comments I think I will reduce my task list to three things: 1) uninstall 11 and go back to 10; 2) wait for a fix from Ableton; 3) try not to think about the cost of upgrading. Very disappointed, but as someone else said, still a believer.
Please make a small text screen above transport bar which displays the 8 parameter names and values which the midi controller is currently set to control. So if selected device is a vst and controller is on page 2, the control display screen displays parameters 9-16 with names and values. If you select an effect and controller is on page 1, the display show parameter names and values of 1-8 params.
Live 11 is so inefficient in the way it uses my CPU. I have a 4.0Ghz (OC) 32-core / 64-thread AMD Ryzen 3970x Threadripper CPU, using extremely fast NVME SSD's, and 128GB of DDR4 3600 MHz RAM using a high-end quad channel RAM motherboard. It's so frustrating how quick latency adds up with a few plug-ins picking 128-256 buffer size for playback. I cannot go any lower or I will get audio dropouts. I remember using my 2013 Macbook Pro with 4-cores using Live 10 and it could handle tons of instances of Serum, Massive, and Omnisphere with no audio drop outs and low lag. My current system will Overload with just two instances of Serum (no i'm not using a crazy amount of voices either)....Its sad that I built such a high-powered PC for such a unoptimized piece of hardware. Why doesn't Ableton address this? I find it disingenuous when Ableton says its my system's fault. Live 11 will have audio dropouts when i set buffer size to 64, yet in Windows 10 Task Manager, total CPU usage shows 20% during playback. Task Manager will show 4 cores hitting 80% usage, another 4-6 hitting 40%, 1-2 hitting 10-20%, and the remaining majority of 20 or so cores only at 5-8%.
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I think 90% of long time Ableton users will laugh at this. You are basically telling us it's our problem Ableton 11 is so bad at CPU usage because we don't know what we are doing. I've gone back to 10 as 11 is unusable at the present time. If you have been using Ableton since 7 and with every update no problems till this version it can't be the user who's at fault. There are people with ridiculously powerful P.C's and Mac's with the same problems. How can that be just down to not having system updated and other things mentioned ? I love Ableton but am totally gutted this version is so CPU hungry .
Duplicating a track, with only 4-5 devices in Push2 causes crazy dropout on a brand new M1 with Live 11. Didn't happen with 10. Kindof defeats the purpose of Push2+Live.. get it fixed Ableton.
@@thomaskreisel5764 Yea fam i’m really waiting for an update from ableton that can solve this issue . Else i have no other option but to downgrade to Ableton 10
I'm having these problems right now I've downloaded the trial version and I had so much lag my voice didn't line up I've since fixed it with adjusting the buffer but running multiple tracks and hitting the keyboard it skips not sure if I'm doing something wrong I hope I am because I've bought a keyboard controller a launchpad and akai apc 40 if this don't workout I'm going to have to get a better computer so lame
I have a track with just 3 sounds no effects and 8 bar loop and CPU meter is already 70 and over, I reduced sample rate and it sounded bad. I'm on HP i5.
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Why does my ableton hiccup every once in a while when running tracks in arrangement view. Sample rate is 2048 already and still hiccups with low cpu usage
thanks for this. i dont think my 4yr old laptop can handle version 11 which is a shame. ableton 10.9.9 works flawlesssly. i wish theyd update software to use less cpu.
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It really isn’t bad to use an interface to direct monitor and switch the channel monitor setting to “Off”, listen and record without any latency and the recording is perfectly on time.
Ayo Abes!! Here's a question: If you have folders on your computer's harddrive that are also automatically backing up to Google Drive, does that effect the indexing feature at all??
Hello my friend, I have a question, the following I have 2080 rtx when playing no problem but if e.g. start a mixing session with studio one after a few plugins the cpu is busy but the task manager only says 12% how can I optimize my system can you please tell me Help, I have windows 11 rtx 2080 and amd AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
To reduce CPU load while not using Live, but keep it open, I would love a keyboard shortcut to enable/disable the audio engine. (I know I can click it and use the menu.) Is there a shortcut and I just haven't found it?
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When your computer has Latency issues with a clean install of windows and when you connect the audio interface to use it you hear "popping and crackling noises" (cause of Latency) for whenever ANY audio is playing. (ableton, movie, youtube, discord, literally any audio) F my life dude (i7 9750H, RTX 2070, 970 Evo Plus, 16GB RAM 3600Mhz DDR4)
Oh my, I finally decided to upgrade to Live 11... Tried opening the projects I was working on smoothly in Live 10 and it has been really painful. Can't listen to anything without crackles, overruns etc... it is by far the worst version of Live I've experienced since I started using Live... not to mention the integration with Komplete Kontrol MK1 has been another nightmare...
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This Ableton software lots of people will not continue using it if this Ableton company don’t make an effort & sell a good product, they are doing nothing new & the software miss lot’s of standard features, this is because this software is for Dj’s more, I already made a switch to other DAW I am very happy, instead of I keep waiting waiting waiting till no end for all the feature that I need & they are re already in all other DAW’s , I advise that don’t keep waiting they will never change there EGO, full stop
oh, i misunderstood, you mean the bars? thats a setting, click the various buttons right of the Masterfader to display them. you have to hide other stuff if your vertical resolution is low or your Mixer section is to small for them to appear.
Does anyone know why it is that every time I change my buffer size, it says "the audio engine is in use by another program" and I have to restart Live to get it to actually change? I don't have to restart any other programs so I think it must be a Live problem.
They are probably making this because lots of people are reporting crashes. So instead of trying to resolve the root causes they ask users to "check" their computers. This is a cop out, good software should work on all environments within reason.
Please make this work, if you drop a vst inside a midi rack, Ableton automatically assumes it is a midi device and uses it as such rather than as an instrument or audio effect. This would enable us to use midi VSTs in the same track as the vst instrument rather than creating seperate tracks and routing midi. Would really help in live situations where you drag and drop devices rather than creating tracks and routing audio and midi channels from one track to another...that is the primary purpose of Ableton right? ease of use in live music sessions?
And if user drops a vst that cannot process midi inside the midi rack...well signal flow stops and no sound...it's as simple as that, i really doubt anything more than this would happen. This situation if far more useful than simply blocking VSTs from being dropped into midi racks...
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I was about to buy a mac just to use ableton, especially the Push, but the comments on this video are a bit shocking. Can anyone recommend the best computer to use abelton and the push on please? Or just learn logic? lol I making tunes on auxy which copies right over to abelton so would like to find a solution.
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How can showing 100% and crackling on actual 44% of CPU is even acceptable?! Ableton is not even using the CPU properly. I have 8 cores, new PC and two channels with a few plugins! This is worse than my old PC on Ableton 10. I can't do anything with this. And no! Ableton doesn't send channels to separate cores! I see they are all equally running on 40-44%. This is i7 11800 BTW PS: I've replicated an entire project in Studio One. With more plugins than in Ableton it doesn't stutter and the CPU is 20% instead 44%! On top of that it's more stable while running other applications in the same time! You clearly have a problem.
Really nice to see that Ableton are listening to their users and making videos to help. On top of that, they're answering other questions here in the comments. Good on you guys, I'm still loving Live 11 :)
Due to this issue I am wondering if I have purchased 11 and want to have version 10 while waiting for live 11 fix,do you need to purchase a new license .Also,if they allow you to have live 10 v,will you be able to still have live 11 if these immature software get ironed out?I don't see a point for purchasing 2 version's full price just so that i could continue on using live as a daw.This is really annoying tbh and they should've never released 11 since this is a significant matter and the way theyr espond is they're aware of it but don't really know how to deal with it and make things as smooth or even than how it is with live 10.I don't have the strongest cpu but its still i7 4core/8 thread) and I'd rather just switch to a new daw than replace my system altogether.
Hi, I've just purchased 11 and a new laptop AMD 7 5800h CPU at 30% and random spiking just on one audio track, not a good start. My weedy i3 runs at 3% mostly, on 10 running multiple tracks... Is it me, am I doing something wrong
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i was puzzled at first.. i have an i7 processor, 24gb RAM and a GTX GPU, i was playing one note on Ableton and it was overloading my CPU! buffer size set to max did nothing.. i was like, how the hell is this possible with my power house PC. Then i went to the 'power options' on my PC and noticed i was on a 'balanced power plan' Duhhh.. immediately set to 'high performance' and problem solved lol. So my advice to anyone is check your PC power plan first
2018 MacBook Pro 2.9 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i9 32 GB 2400 MHz DDR4 Won’t even run my basic key and pedal rig. CPU overloads with the first chord. I’m not even running tracks.
anyone here who has live 11, does this require a high end computer? My old laptop can run live 9 just fine but I'm thinking of buying this. Tnks in advance!
I just upgraded from 9 to 11 to get comping. I’m using a 2012 i7 Mac mini with a metric halo uln2 interface. It works fine but I’m getting some cpu problems I never had before…not critical but something I have to keep an eye on. Caveat being I’m working mostly with recorded audio and not a lot of virtual instruments or heavy track counts.
I upgraded from 10, and my set up has been melting. same projects played in 10 struggle in 11. Now factor in streaming with OBS studio and RIP. hope this gets sorted soon instead of video that doesn't explain the drastic increase of CPU overload with 11
@@PeacePeaceGawd Hi, sorry to hear about this! The CPU meter design in Live 11 has changed since Live 10. To verify the CPU usage scientifically, please compare Live 10 and Live 11 using the macOS Activity monitor/Windows Task Manager by loading the same set, with the same audio device and the exact same settings (buffer size and sample rate). If this meter shows a difference between both Live versions, please get in touch with us here: bit.ly/2c6rO3N Also, please make sure all third-party plug-ins and applications have been updated to their most recent versions. Cheers!
@@Abletoncan’t you make a way to turn the disk cpu overload indicator off so it doesn’t flash yellow constantly? The dumbest shit I’ve ever dealt with I don’t get any dropouts but it flashes yellow all the time only using like 3 tracks
I am desperated. The CPU on my new Macbook Pro M1 Max ramges from 139 to 630% !!! And it keeps janging all the time :( and yes my pligins are all bought and system and plugins and Ableton are up to date. This is what i am doing for 4 month now. Working became unpossible :( can you tell me why this is happening all the time please?? I would send a Crashfile, question is if i will get an answer of you guys.... regards
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Higher sample-rates do not result in higher "quality", only higher frequencies being recorded, whether you need them is up to you. Higher bit-rates do not result in more detail, only lower noise-floor...
Are you sure about the bit depth? I record live instruments at 32bit because it not only has a near-zero noise floor but more detail in the transient information. As for in the box, I can push recordings peaks into the red and bring them down without audible distortion, where as a 16bit or 24bit signal will have audible distortion in the red If I record to low at 24bit and bring up, there is noticeable distortion on peaks, especially when adding processing post recording such as compression or saturation. If you don’t want to take my word for it, Dan Worrall of FabFilter has an excellent video on sample rates and bit depth that I feel you may find enlightening
@@eph_kni Yes, I am sure, there no difference between detail and transient response between different bit-depths. Yes, I have probably watched all of Dan Worrall's videos, where specifically does he say that bit-depth has something to do with detail or transients? I can't even find a video from him talking about bit-depth, just sample rate and dither. What interface are you using to record at 32bit?
@@ejmikk welp I’ve been enlightened and my arguments on bit depth have been corrected and refined. Thanks for that. My aforementioned experiences on recording and resampling aren’t different but the explanations behind them are now in question. As for the Dan video, I was also incorrect. It’s a Mr Bill video which can be found here th-cam.com/video/z--3MArikY0/w-d-xo.html The interface I use is an RME UCX. I typically record at 48k 32bit. If I plan on slowing my recordings down (by a lot) I’ll record at a higher sample rate. I should mention that my ears can’t detect any audible difference when playing back these live recorded, low-noise, transient sounds at typical volume/playback speed. I’m working from a sound design perspective and bringing these signals to extremes in the digital domain.
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I have a computer with GeForce RTX 3080Ti, Ryzen 9 5900X, 64GB, 2TB SSD, Windows 10. This is bullshit I have a more than adequate CPU !!!!! Update or refund this too expensive to have this bug!!!
The fact you made this video shows there is a coding issue for CPU usage. I bought a new mid tier computer and performance was barely acceptable with no headroom. Ordered a (i9 12th Gen) high tier computer and it finally plays decent with only a bit of headroom. 3 computers same project. Fix your software!! Going to downgrade and run 10. Nothing to see here - maybe I will check back in when 12 comes out. Will be sure to do a trial first before leaping like 11. Thumbs down Ableton!!!
After 10 years of loving Ableton there is finally a video that explains computer performance and resolving the issues.. I THANK YEEEEE.. 🍻
The classic "it's not our fault" video :)
How comforting ♥️
its true tho, most dont understand the basic priciples of audio processing, this video is actually golden content.
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl The most people complaining here are comparing 10 and 11 on a same computer. Live 11 is much more CPU intensive on a several different computers that I tested (PC and Mac intel/m1)
when the audio started clipping at 2:01 I instinctively right clicked on a recommended video to try to freeze and flatten it
Me : breaths
Ableton 11 : HEY YOUR I7 8700k CPU IS DYING AHHHHHHHH
You are right.. Its sad..
@@imp_lse Wait, your CPU light comes on? Mine has been on forever, not even joking it’s always on
wait wht, my cpu is an apu ( regrets ) and it never lights on
@@shejustlikestofight Opening your default session must spike your CPU. It stays on until you click it to reset it (similar to a clipping indicator which stays on until you reset it).
@@TjMoon91 ohhhthat makes sense, yea my default set is loaded as fuck with 6 tracks, three instrument “multi-selectors” (so like 10 instruments in total) and then 4 audio effects per track lmfao
Just activated the High Performance power plan and this has solved the CPU issue (didn't get this issue with Maschine). Thanks for the tips.
The problem is that sometimes I get random CPU spikes when a sound comes in that hasnt played for some time. After a few seconds of the sound glitching, everything works normal again. I think its a common problem with the current Live version as many people have similiar issues.
Have you tried loading the audio sample in the RAM?
@@AGVersace100 The problem occurs less with samples but more with synths. I think the problem is that Live sort of disables the processing on certain tracks after a time to safe CPU power but doesnt reactivate them properly when needed.
@@MagicalBroetchen That's not what happens. Samples are easy for your sound card to decode during playback, whereas synth instruments will first need to generate audio before playback, in real-time. Some instruments are more process-heavy than others. For example synths which tries to emulate analogue sounds, often require more resources due to the processing required to produce the audio.
On top of that, if you have any plugins, they will also need to do processing in chain before being decoded during playing. The more processing the more CPU is needed.
There are a few ways to get around this, depending on your use-case;
- You can increase the buffer size and lower sample rates (as explained in the video) to match your system and needs.
- If this is not enough, you can either freeze or bounce the particular track into an audio file (same as freeze, but allows you to edit the sampled audio afterwards).
- While not magically making things faster, a good audio interface can help with a lot of audio issues. However, keep in mind that your computer still needs to do some processing.
- The most expensive one, is to upgrade your computer and/or CPU to a more powerful one. This is of course if the previous solutions don't fit you.
@@dealloc Your explanation doesn’t explain why the glitching only happens when the sound hasn’t been played for some time?
@@dealloc Yes, but the processing power of my system is not the problem. Those synths work flawlessly most of the time. On a large project I have an average CPU usage of about 30-40% during playback. The glitches and CPU spikes would happen, as an example, when I leave the computer for 5 minutes and start the playback again.
None of this explains why even on a heavily overspec'd computer with all updated software, loading an instance of certain plugins, even native ones, causes the cpu overload indicator to light up even when no audio is playing and usage is reported as sub 30 percent?
This depends on the plugins. Some are optimized for certain DAW's or OS Platform... so millage may vary. For example on my M1 MBP 8gb Ram, I load 1 instance of Waves Abbey Road Reverb and it quickly jumps to 50% after many many years on the market and still not being optimized, while liquidsonic's Seventh Heaven barely gets to 1%.
From what I know about CPU spikes, its simply a natural occurrence. No need to be alarmed. Its gonna spike whatever you do. The issue is if it stays that way "maxed out"
they need to optimize that tho... cause the indicator will stay on if you dont toggle it again...
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I can't believe this was posted a year ago and its all still going on -_-
Hey Ableton, it's great that you have a new cpu meter but the issue is 11 is far less cpu efficient than previous versions. The community is saying that even with running 11 on beasts of machines they are still having significant issues and your advice is to upgrade all of their software and contact technical support. The problem is ableton live 11. Nothing else.
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@@Ableton, do you know what else is scientific? Sampling and observation. Read the room.
@@Ableton What is technical support going to do ?
@@jazzhippie3878 zero, they have your money now.
@@xntricity6446 well, they "technically have my money" 😉if u catch my drift. ask reddit for more details
The CPU Overload is basically allways lit in my sessions, but the counter is usually hovering around 20-30% when working. It doesnt affect anything, but its kinda annoying. Im on a mac
Same here, and I'm also using a Mac -- a basic, newer iMac w/3.0GHz i5 and 8GB RAM running Live 11 Suite. I turn the CPU overload indicator off; it only spikes when I load certain plug-ins. Considering the modest power of my computer, I run about 10 tracks on average -- always mix of plug-ins, Ableton instruments, and external audio -- and rarely get the CPU load meter over 30-35%. I've yet to see it above 50%, even with all the bells and whistles I cared to use.
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I'm finding Live 11 slow and overloading far too easily. Also, saved projects take an inordinate amount of time to load. It makes Live 11 almost unusable. There is an issue with Live's ability to load and run efficiently it seems. Please fix it.
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This happens ALL THE TIME, no matter what. I alwwys have to freeze and flatten. Sad, cause I bought a new Mac with much money and still …
One thing they didn't mention, which i believe is not common knowledge, is that each track in your live set takes up a thread in your cpu. So say you have a cpu that has 8 cores. Each core has 2 threads. So ableton assigns a track to each thread and, up to 16 tracks, typically everything will run smooth. However once you get up to 17 and above things can get a bit overwhelming for your cpu because its running more than one track per thread. Ive found that if you consolidate multiple tracks into one to limit the amount of tracks it helps.
No it's not. I watch all the cores in task manager and they are all equal always. Ableton doesn't use the CPU properly. I have 8 cores and they all run on 44% and Ableton is crackling and shows 100%. I'm going to try Pro Tools side by side and see if this problem still persists. My nerves with this software are already gone.
I have an 8 core 4790k from 10 years ago and I run project with 150 tracks. The only tricks need are to avoid having really big effect chains on any one track, and to print out any instruments as soon as you're happy with them.
feel free to fix the crazy Live 11 CPU spikes soon please guys
I've been using ableton 8 suite for about 10 years, just changed to 11 about two weeks ago and I got my first one yesterday. It just maxed out and stopped playing. For no apparent reason that I noticed.
PLEASE
From what I know about CPU spikes, its simply a natural occurrence. No need to be alarmed. Its gonna spike whatever you do. The issue is if it stays that way "maxed out"
@@Calebjoyemusic
As I said, 11is spiking like crazy. I'm only talking a couple of channels with a couple of synths. It's not like I'm trying to run a whole orchestra. It's the first time it's happened in the last 10 years... It's obviously a live 11 bug, going by all the other comments. I used Live 8 for years with no problems. The thing is as well, I use Reason too, and it doesn't "max out", never.
Critical fix needed.
The drop is at 1:56
That tip to put an effect on a return channel and send the data to it was really helpful
Putting the multiple instances of the same effect on each channel and then freezing them is even more cpu friendly
LMAO instead of giving us an update to fix CPU issues, they're blaming us for not knowing "how to computer". Live 10 does not even blink at projects that make Live 11 shit the bed on my PC. It's the same system, just different versions of the program. The problem is on your end for a great deal of us who are having CPU issues with the newest version. EDIT: when I say "shit the bed" I mean "glitch out and perform significantly worse" than the same project would in 10. I'm not talking at all about what the meter is showing me, but what I'm hearing and how much my computer locks up while running the same amount of plugins I'd have in a typical session.
Hi, thank you for the feedback. We're constantly working on updates to improve Live 11 and to address possible issues that we may find in our internal testings.
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@@Ableton Well, considering I haven't used Live 11 since it came out due to its stability issues and you guys -just- rolled out an update that addresses those exact issues, I may not be able to reproduce them. How convenient.
I went from 9 to 11 , I could run over 30 channels of audio plus midi on 9 and my cpu never went near 20% updated to 11 and 6 channels running it started to sound like a skrillex tune .....
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@@Ableton Please fix this ASAP because in my case I can't use Live anymore to see out a project.
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@@AbletonI upgraded 10 to 11 years ago, still can't use my 11 suit, I mean I just can't
Ableton is acting like the cpu meter on Live11 is already working. Every set I load into 11 is getting spikes up to +200%, when same sets are not getting near the 50% mark in Live10. Yaaaay
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Good video, thanks. The thing with Ableton is, that it doesn't use the multicore setup of modern processors giving more power in audio work. For instance, I have the very powerful 4800H AMD processor in HP Omen laptop with 8 cores, and when I monitor the actual processor load, Ableton is using one or two cores but the rest (14) processes are almost idle. So, many times I'm rendering in Ableton, rendering some video, live streaming.... and the processor is like, hey hit me with something real.
@@dealloc Thanks for the explanation. I always wondered why my computers not use the whole available power, but as you said it's very logical that actually the plugin makers should implement that option.
@@Burnout_AU Yeah, we can start a quest for unlocking the power of cores :)
I didn’t know about avoiding mixing VST 2 and VST 3 within sets, I disconnect my internet via usb Wi-fi dongle, I don’t know if that got a mention, but it drops some background services from running, I also find the cognitive act of putting the dongle back in, only when needed helps me focus somewhat.
I try to use vst 3 where possible BUT many plugins still haven’t been converted and are only in vst 2 or sometimes only AU.
Is it just me or does v11 run worse than v10? Why does it do that? Isnt it supposed to be the other way around?
you are not alone. 11 is significant more worse in performance, its a lot more picky about CPU usage and audio runs very quickly not stable. i simply decided to stay on v10, since i dont need anything from 11
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@@Ableton Im talking about loading the exact same live set on the exact same computer with the exact same buffer settings and getting crackles on 11 when getting no crackles on 10.
Im talking about actual performance and audio results.
Honestly could care less what the meter says. I know the meter in 11 is faster so its going to show a lot more intermittent peaks.
Im happy to send you whatever logs you need in order to get this sorted out.
@@AmeyahOfficialTV For one particularly large template I use on one of my machines, Ive had to do the exact same. I bought the 11 upgrade in preorder phase because every upgrade has been well worth it to me. This one has not been and goes unused.
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I NEED to see some Live 11 patch updates….the reviews are horrible…it has been a unanimous sigh of disappointment thus far. I still believe in you guys though
I tried Live 11 Trial, i used a single Lead from its Stock Plugins and CPU Meter went to 25-30% in Idle Mode. No Effects, nothing, just a single Lead where i did some Chords, when i played it, it went to 50-60%. Is this how you want to win new Customers ? Fix your Products before release them. And of course, Support only for Customers which have any Version of Live except Trial. My Laptop Specs: 28 GB RAM, I 5-7300HQ. Made an Screenshot of it.
My headaches are gone after watching this. Thank you!
I’m getting the cpu spikes very often on live 11, quite annoying. MacBook Pro 16inch 2019.
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This video is great Thank You. I have a question tough, when Ableton will fully support or optimised for Apple M1?
I use a Macbook Pro i9 (8 cores) 16gb. Recording a live looping with buffer size 128 and sample rate 44100, converting the clips automatically to RAM with clyphx pro, I still got "clicks" like that at 53 seconds of video (the most recent video from my channel here on TH-cam)
PS: I captured Ableton's screen using another machine (Windows 10) through hdmi (normal connection, like an external video monitor)
I believe the company will fix such issues in an upcoming release.
I hope so 🙏🏻
As this way helpful, I never had any issues with 10, but now I have 11 and am wondering if something was lost in this update… please give us an update to 11… if not I’ll just switch back to 10. I didn’t spend over $800 to have this program not work… it’s very frustrating 😑
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Update all plugins, update OS, follow everything in this video?
Thank you for the explanation. Cleared many doubts.
glad I didn’t upgrade (for the first time since Live 3) or the CPU requirement would have gifted me a forced vacation from producing. The new features on 11 is enticing but I’m happy with using 10 (and sometimes 8 and 9 for older project rehashes).
Change the Piano roll on the next updates please, it's cool that it is minimalistic, but not everyone likes it, or make it custom
I get disk and CPU overload indication too often though my machine is a new i9 mac and should be powerful enough (so I would expect to get those notifications less often). Anyone else has this? Is the feature working properly?
Maybe set you buffersize higher
Another thing I had is that the temp of my computer was simply too high, if its on top of a radiator or smth so ur CPU throttles and causes it to work slower
@@jensnln what surface is your Mac sitting on. Is it elevated and does it have a case on it??
When my A/C blow hard close to my machine, my 2014 Max out 15 inch MacBook Pro run just fine with 32 buffer running 9 Kontakt VST's. This is better compare to my previous setup location that far from A/C.
Dude set your mac near a window or something where there is good ventilation and airflow.
I also had the same problem.Mine is an i5 Lenovo notebook.Cpu overload indication shows even when just 1-2 midi clips are loaded and the device heated like crazy. Then I placed a cooling pad and boom all these issues were resolved.🙂
The key is proper cooling.
The only thing that helped me on my Win 11 system was to go into the advanced power plan settings and change the minimum CPU load from a default of 60% to 95%. And I'm already using a rather high-end mobile workstation. Live 11 definitely needs to be overhauled...
Those dropouts at 3:04 do sound pretty good though…
Wow, many thanks for this clear video!
Same project built on 10 without any problems whatever just crashes on 11. Saw that my hard drive was getting full so went out and bought two 2TB backup drives and cleaned it out. No dice. I just went through this video and wrote down 16 things to do to try to fix the problem, but after reading all these comments I think I will reduce my task list to three things: 1) uninstall 11 and go back to 10; 2) wait for a fix from Ableton; 3) try not to think about the cost of upgrading. Very disappointed, but as someone else said, still a believer.
Hi! So what is the result? Did you install live 10 again?
Please make a small text screen above transport bar which displays the 8 parameter names and values which the midi controller is currently set to control. So if selected device is a vst and controller is on page 2, the control display screen displays parameters 9-16 with names and values. If you select an effect and controller is on page 1, the display show parameter names and values of 1-8 params.
Live 11 is so inefficient in the way it uses my CPU. I have a 4.0Ghz (OC) 32-core / 64-thread AMD Ryzen 3970x Threadripper CPU, using extremely fast NVME SSD's, and 128GB of DDR4 3600 MHz RAM using a high-end quad channel RAM motherboard. It's so frustrating how quick latency adds up with a few plug-ins picking 128-256 buffer size for playback. I cannot go any lower or I will get audio dropouts. I remember using my 2013 Macbook Pro with 4-cores using Live 10 and it could handle tons of instances of Serum, Massive, and Omnisphere with no audio drop outs and low lag. My current system will Overload with just two instances of Serum (no i'm not using a crazy amount of voices either)....Its sad that I built such a high-powered PC for such a unoptimized piece of hardware. Why doesn't Ableton address this? I find it disingenuous when Ableton says its my system's fault. Live 11 will have audio dropouts when i set buffer size to 64, yet in Windows 10 Task Manager, total CPU usage shows 20% during playback.
Task Manager will show 4 cores hitting 80% usage, another 4-6 hitting 40%, 1-2 hitting 10-20%, and the remaining majority of 20 or so cores only at 5-8%.
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I think 90% of long time Ableton users will laugh at this. You are basically telling us it's our problem Ableton 11 is so bad at CPU usage because we don't know what we are doing. I've gone back to 10 as 11 is unusable at the present time. If you have been using Ableton since 7 and with every update no problems till this version it can't be the user who's at fault. There are people with ridiculously powerful P.C's and Mac's with the same problems. How can that be just down to not having system updated and other things mentioned ? I love Ableton but am totally gutted this version is so CPU hungry .
Exactly!!!! It's every other issue under the sun except for Ableton Live 11.
I cant even play 4 tracks on 11 now. And i bought my laptop 1 week ago. Wth is happening.
Duplicating a track, with only 4-5 devices in Push2 causes crazy dropout on a brand new M1 with Live 11. Didn't happen with 10. Kindof defeats the purpose of Push2+Live.. get it fixed Ableton.
Same with me. I already have problems with a pretty powerful PC. Have to freeze some tracks to continue expand my ideas within a track.
@@thomaskreisel5764 Yea fam i’m really waiting for an update from ableton that can solve this issue . Else i have no other option but to downgrade to Ableton 10
Was debating to buy this! Thanks for the comment section. Has the issue been resolved? FL, Bitwig or Reason? 🤔
I'm having these problems right now I've downloaded the trial version and I had so much lag my voice didn't line up I've since fixed it with adjusting the buffer but running multiple tracks and hitting the keyboard it skips not sure if I'm doing something wrong I hope I am because I've bought a keyboard controller a launchpad and akai apc 40 if this don't workout I'm going to have to get a better computer so lame
This video is very much informative
I have a track with just 3 sounds no effects and 8 bar loop and CPU meter is already 70 and over, I reduced sample rate and it sounded bad. I'm on HP i5.
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Can someone explain to me that I’m getting audio glitches when the meter is only 30%?
Why does my ableton hiccup every once in a while when running tracks in arrangement view. Sample rate is 2048 already and still hiccups with low cpu usage
thanks for this. i dont think my 4yr old laptop can handle version 11 which is a shame. ableton 10.9.9 works flawlesssly. i wish theyd update software to use less cpu.
I am using MacBook Pro retina late 2013, and I found 11 working more efficiently in term of cpu usage.
I suggest you give it a try.
@@munsef.turkmani pc guy i had one preset literally crash my project. idk sticking w 10 until i get a better pc
I think there many of systems which can't handle it but it's lives problem, not your laptops..
@@munsef.turkmani ableton 11 barely runs on my late 2013 mbp :( which OS are you on?
Let us freeze groups next!
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Please get going on the M1...
You need to write Live from scratch and try to find the other ways around - latency is a real issue with 11.
It really isn’t bad to use an interface to direct monitor and switch the channel monitor setting to “Off”, listen and record without any latency and the recording is perfectly on time.
Very useful and informative.
I got 2 new tips that i was not aware of...thanks ableton
Ayo Abes!! Here's a question: If you have folders on your computer's harddrive that are also automatically backing up to Google Drive, does that effect the indexing feature at all??
@ABLETON Please fix the spikes cpu... iam using ABL from 4 till 11 ... with same problem "random spikes cpu" overload = mood drop :(
Hello my friend, I have a question, the following I have 2080 rtx when playing no problem but if e.g. start a mixing session with studio one after a few plugins the cpu is busy but the task manager only says 12% how can I optimize my system can you please tell me Help, I have windows 11 rtx 2080 and amd AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
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To reduce CPU load while not using Live, but keep it open, I would love a keyboard shortcut to enable/disable the audio engine. (I know I can click it and use the menu.) Is there a shortcut and I just haven't found it?
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On Mac it’s CMD+option+shift+E
Of course this happens when I updated my M1 Mac to Monterey and its idling at 6% and when adding one track it spikes up to about 10%
Thanks Ableton.
When your computer has Latency issues with a clean install of windows and when you connect the audio interface to use it you hear "popping and crackling noises" (cause of Latency) for whenever ANY audio is playing. (ableton, movie, youtube, discord, literally any audio) F my life dude (i7 9750H, RTX 2070, 970 Evo Plus, 16GB RAM 3600Mhz DDR4)
Very helpful and highly appreciated!! More tips and tricks like this!
Thanks for theses tips I will apply them 🙂🙏
There are some windows processes that mess with ableton. If you get latency mon you can see them. Disabling wifi can help
Any news on the "optimization of my experience" on Apple M1 chipsets?
Live 10 on Mojave--Think i'll just stay here...
Oh my, I finally decided to upgrade to Live 11... Tried opening the projects I was working on smoothly in Live 10 and it has been really painful. Can't listen to anything without crackles, overruns etc... it is by far the worst version of Live I've experienced since I started using Live... not to mention the integration with Komplete Kontrol MK1 has been another nightmare...
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This Ableton software lots of people will not continue using it if this Ableton company don’t make an effort & sell a good product, they are doing nothing new & the software miss lot’s of standard features, this is because this software is for Dj’s more, I already made a switch to other DAW I am very happy, instead of I keep waiting waiting waiting till no end for all the feature that I need & they are re already in all other DAW’s , I advise that don’t keep waiting they will never change there EGO, full stop
Ableton Live 11 is very easy software i used last 3 years running
funny that other software like Bitwig work flawlessly but Ableton 11 spikes randomly
Because the original programers work on bitwig.
Does Live has smart disable feature?
0:30 how do I make the return tracks display the "A" "B" "C" values in session view?
thats normal, what are yours labeled?
oh, i misunderstood, you mean the bars? thats a setting, click the various buttons right of the Masterfader to display them. you have to hide other stuff if your vertical resolution is low or your Mixer section is to small for them to appear.
Does anyone know why it is that every time I change my buffer size, it says "the audio engine is in use by another program" and I have to restart Live to get it to actually change? I don't have to restart any other programs so I think it must be a Live problem.
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They are probably making this because lots of people are reporting crashes. So instead of trying to resolve the root causes they ask users to "check" their computers. This is a cop out, good software should work on all environments within reason.
"Make sure that everything outside the program is up to date as well"...I'd consider this a rather dangerous advice
Please make this work, if you drop a vst inside a midi rack, Ableton automatically assumes it is a midi device and uses it as such rather than as an instrument or audio effect.
This would enable us to use midi VSTs in the same track as the vst instrument rather than creating seperate tracks and routing midi. Would really help in live situations where you drag and drop devices rather than creating tracks and routing audio and midi channels from one track to another...that is the primary purpose of Ableton right? ease of use in live music sessions?
And if user drops a vst that cannot process midi inside the midi rack...well signal flow stops and no sound...it's as simple as that, i really doubt anything more than this would happen. This situation if far more useful than simply blocking VSTs from being dropped into midi racks...
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THANKS!
thought i had my vid playing at 50% speed lmao
I was about to buy a mac just to use ableton, especially the Push, but the comments on this video are a bit shocking. Can anyone recommend the best computer to use abelton and the push on please? Or just learn logic? lol I making tunes on auxy which copies right over to abelton so would like to find a solution.
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It's called use Bitwig 4. You won't have any issues. Trust me.
How can showing 100% and crackling on actual 44% of CPU is even acceptable?! Ableton is not even using the CPU properly. I have 8 cores, new PC and two channels with a few plugins! This is worse than my old PC on Ableton 10. I can't do anything with this.
And no! Ableton doesn't send channels to separate cores! I see they are all equally running on 40-44%. This is i7 11800 BTW
PS: I've replicated an entire project in Studio One. With more plugins than in Ableton it doesn't stutter and the CPU is 20% instead 44%! On top of that it's more stable while running other applications in the same time! You clearly have a problem.
Really nice to see that Ableton are listening to their users and making videos to help. On top of that, they're answering other questions here in the comments. Good on you guys, I'm still loving Live 11 :)
Yeah it’s so nice of them to cover up the huge bugs some people have in Live 11 and pretend it’s just an issue with the settings
thanks
Due to this issue I am wondering if I have purchased 11 and want to have version 10 while waiting for live 11 fix,do you need to purchase a new license .Also,if they allow you to have live 10 v,will you be able to still have live 11 if these immature software get ironed out?I don't see a point for purchasing 2 version's full price just so that i could continue on using live as a daw.This is really annoying tbh and they should've never released 11 since this is a significant matter and the way theyr espond is they're aware of it but don't really know how to deal with it and make things as smooth or even than how it is with live 10.I don't have the strongest cpu but its still i7 4core/8 thread) and I'd rather just switch to a new daw than replace my system altogether.
Hi, I've just purchased 11 and a new laptop AMD 7 5800h CPU at 30% and random spiking just on one audio track, not a good start.
My weedy i3 runs at 3% mostly, on 10 running multiple tracks...
Is it me, am I doing something wrong
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i was puzzled at first.. i have an i7 processor, 24gb RAM and a GTX GPU, i was playing one note on Ableton and it was overloading my CPU! buffer size set to max did nothing.. i was like, how the hell is this possible with my power house PC. Then i went to the 'power options' on my PC and noticed i was on a 'balanced power plan' Duhhh.. immediately set to 'high performance' and problem solved lol. So my advice to anyone is check your PC power plan first
2018 MacBook Pro
2.9 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i9
32 GB 2400 MHz DDR4
Won’t even run my basic key and pedal rig. CPU overloads with the first chord. I’m not even running tracks.
I can’t believe I spent money on this. A TON OF MONEY BTW. 750 bucks. Thought ableton was a reputable company 🤦 what do I do now?
@@BIGKittyHendo90 any improvements or updates?
anyone here who has live 11, does this require a high end computer? My old laptop can run live 9 just fine but I'm thinking of buying this. Tnks in advance!
I just upgraded from 9 to 11 to get comping. I’m using a 2012 i7 Mac mini with a metric halo uln2 interface. It works fine but I’m getting some cpu problems I never had before…not critical but something I have to keep an eye on. Caveat being I’m working mostly with recorded audio and not a lot of virtual instruments or heavy track counts.
A higher end computer is advised. Don’t fix what isn’t broken
I upgraded from 10, and my set up has been melting. same projects played in 10 struggle in 11. Now factor in streaming with OBS studio and RIP. hope this gets sorted soon instead of video that doesn't explain the drastic increase of CPU overload with 11
@@PeacePeaceGawd Hi, sorry to hear about this!
The CPU meter design in Live 11 has changed since Live 10. To verify the CPU usage scientifically, please compare Live 10 and Live 11 using the macOS Activity monitor/Windows Task Manager by loading the same set, with the same audio device and the exact same settings (buffer size and sample rate).
If this meter shows a difference between both Live versions, please get in touch with us here: bit.ly/2c6rO3N
Also, please make sure all third-party plug-ins and applications have been updated to their most recent versions. Cheers!
@@Abletoncan’t you make a way to turn the disk cpu overload indicator off so it doesn’t flash yellow constantly? The dumbest shit I’ve ever dealt with I don’t get any dropouts but it flashes yellow all the time only using like 3 tracks
I am desperated. The CPU on my new Macbook Pro M1 Max ramges from 139 to 630% !!! And it keeps janging all the time :( and yes my pligins are all bought and system and plugins and Ableton are up to date. This is what i am doing for 4 month now. Working became unpossible :( can you tell me why this is happening all the time please?? I would send a Crashfile, question is if i will get an answer of you guys.... regards
And yes i have enough RAm. 64 Gb and 24 GPU
UAD Apolllo 8 with M1 ready drivers as well......
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@@Ableton the second link gives me an page error.... 401
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Hey ingenieros de ableton live 11 trabajen un poco más!!!!!
This is a joke. I have an alderlake cpu running at 5ghz all core and 4200 mhz ram. The cpu load is ridiculous
Higher sample-rates do not result in higher "quality", only higher frequencies being recorded, whether you need them is up to you. Higher bit-rates do not result in more detail, only lower noise-floor...
Are you sure about the bit depth?
I record live instruments at 32bit because it not only has a near-zero noise floor but more detail in the transient information.
As for in the box, I can push recordings peaks into the red and bring them down without audible distortion, where as a 16bit or 24bit signal will have audible distortion in the red
If I record to low at 24bit and bring up, there is noticeable distortion on peaks, especially when adding processing post recording such as compression or saturation.
If you don’t want to take my word for it, Dan Worrall of FabFilter has an excellent video on sample rates and bit depth that I feel you may find enlightening
@@eph_kni Yes, I am sure, there no difference between detail and transient response between different bit-depths. Yes, I have probably watched all of Dan Worrall's videos, where specifically does he say that bit-depth has something to do with detail or transients? I can't even find a video from him talking about bit-depth, just sample rate and dither. What interface are you using to record at 32bit?
@@eph_kni th-cam.com/video/cIQ9IXSUzuM/w-d-xo.html This is an excellent video with fairly scientific proof about the subject.
@@ejmikk welp I’ve been enlightened and my arguments on bit depth have been corrected and refined. Thanks for that.
My aforementioned experiences on recording and resampling aren’t different but the explanations behind them are now in question.
As for the Dan video, I was also incorrect. It’s a Mr Bill video which can be found here th-cam.com/video/z--3MArikY0/w-d-xo.html
The interface I use is an RME UCX. I typically record at 48k 32bit. If I plan on slowing my recordings down (by a lot) I’ll record at a higher sample rate.
I should mention that my ears can’t detect any audible difference when playing back these live recorded, low-noise, transient sounds at typical volume/playback speed.
I’m working from a sound design perspective and bringing these signals to extremes in the digital domain.
where the f was this for the past ten years
Hah I've just updated all possible drivers, windows system set to max performance and the cpu load on ableton is even worse. Live 10 no problem.
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I think it would be in abletons best interest to fix this problem I hate I even updated to 11 I honestly wish I could get a refund
I have a computer with GeForce RTX 3080Ti, Ryzen 9 5900X, 64GB, 2TB SSD, Windows 10. This is bullshit I have a more than adequate CPU !!!!! Update or refund this too expensive to have this bug!!!
Great
I think Im going back to live 10
2:01 omg that sound physically pains me cuz i experienced it many times lol
The fact you made this video shows there is a coding issue for CPU usage. I bought a new mid tier computer and performance was barely acceptable with no headroom. Ordered a (i9 12th Gen) high tier computer and it finally plays decent with only a bit of headroom. 3 computers same project. Fix your software!! Going to downgrade and run 10. Nothing to see here - maybe I will check back in when 12 comes out. Will be sure to do a trial first before leaping like 11. Thumbs down Ableton!!!
Is there a way to tell ableton to sequentially play each scene for a specific amount of bars automatically?
It should be optimized for multicore!!!!!
PTSD AT 2:01
Official "stop saturating vocals to death trend" button.
I will not buy 11 until it‘s optimized for the new m1/m1x macs..
2:42 omg
Why is there no multi threading? Lol Are you arware we have now a lot more cores access on average Ableton? (see AMD)
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