and required a specialist trainer. Wolves....are something different. I have seen them in a zoo and they definately don't look t you like dogs do, even huskies or german shepards. Wolves scared me and they looked so tiny compared to tigers and polar bears.
All due credit must be given to Rob Bottin who did the transforming creature effects. He quite nearly worked himself to death on this film, working 16-18 hour days, for weeks non-stop until he collapsed one day of severe exhaustion and had to be hospitalized for an extended period. He suffered for his art and it shows.
And no one these days do the same thing with practical effects! His effects are so damn fantastic, every time I watch this film, I see something "new."
@@emeryltekutsu4357 I really wish they'd had enough footage of the practical effects to release a 'practical' cut. That movie could have been so much more...
I had a Wolf-dog I had adopted from the shelter. We thought he was a German Shepherd cross. He was but there were things that stood out like his size as he grew, his stance and how freaking smart he was. He knew so many words from the start it was mind blowing. During a walk it started to rain and I said you should walk under the umbrella. And he quietly strolled under! 🤯
@@PodreyJenkin138 Just browse the first tens of results on this stuff in Google Scholar or something. Look up some books. Lots of evidence now that dogs have the same type language centre in their brain that we do. By current Ethology, it seems dogs can perfectly understand language by the precise context of its use, but they don't carry that understanding over in the abstract sense to different situations. Dogs have situational cognition, but not abstract conceptual cognition, is why they seem stupid lots of the time, and also of course because of the immense language gap and short-circuits between how we generally express and perceive things and how they habitually do. If you think about it, if a dog can survive alone in the wilderness (track and test foods, band up with tons of different animals, gauge the weather and other animal behaviors to adapt its behavior, etc. etc.) then it probably understands at least the amount of symbols and signs that it'd need to learn the relatively few things we humans would ask of them. Also my dogs have always known to walk in the shadow when it's hot out, and they know to shake off wetness the moment they get out of the rain. If a wolf-dog notices it's dry beneath an umbrella it can probably reason that it's nicer to walk underneath that.
Look up Bunny the talking dog on TH-cam. She's a sheepadoodle and she communicates using buttons; each button is a word. She will ask existential questions, and in one video she caught a glimpse of herself in the mirror and, using her buttons, asked, "Who is that?"
Two deaths are by humans alone, the rest in this movie comes by assimilation and then being killed for it. That would be Clark (shot in the head) and Fuchs; killed himself but arguable he was about to get assimilated so he did it.
Paranoia is the real antagonist of the film. It makes it impossible to root out the Thing easily and forces the group to divide and bicker and panic. It makes for such a good atmosphere in a horror film and the fact that John Carpenter had the foresight not to give the film clear-cut answers all the time means it's a mystery people can still pick at to this day. You can't tell when someone's been turned at several points, you can only hazard a guess. You're just as in the dark as the characters themselves. I love that. Horror films benefit greatly from mystery. Not all questions need answers.
You say they trust each other in the end, but if you pay attention to the way MacReady and Nauls glance at each other in the final scene, it's clear what both of them are thinking. 'Is this person I'm looking at human?' And that, to me, is the most horrifying moment in the entire film. Did they defeat The Thing, or is it staring you right in the face?
It is just....it didnt matter what they did. The "Thing" was also smart. did many smart things and many "It" farse failed only cause of luck like the Heart attack. The crew was actually really lucky they managed to beat the Thing....I think
It reminds me of Alien in that the characters make reasonable decisions. Not all of them are good, but they’re not terrible and unrealistic, anyone could make them. That’s what makes this movie so terrifying to me, is how it uses that to say “this could be you. And you’d be screwed.”
It's not just an "80s synth score." It's Ennio Morricone using relatively new technology to create a lasting composition because he has that capability. Best. Leo.
Absolutely! That's exactly why it's an "80's synth score" that rises above the others and has endured. Morricone is phenomenal. His work on The Mission, The Untouchables, and on the Dollars trilogy ranks high on our list of favorite scores.
@@naiknaik8812 Yup. Really. And the same composer would win an Academy award for best score for “The Hateful Eight”... which used three unused tracks from his work on “The Thing.”
That's me with nearly all scary videos, lol. Gore makes me squeamish, but if it's scary in other ways, I'll just be like "Who cares? I wanna watch it!"
I do this too 😭 Is it because its validating our world perception? Are we looking for answers? We want to feel less 'weird', or accepted for our 'weirdness'? We just want to go away from our own problems for a bit? Probably depends on the person and context, so we might not ever know! You can absolutely watch things that are sensitive to you, the key I think is to do it with some informed insight about your own emotions and internal landscape. So that if it opens up memories, or brings up feelings or emotions, you want to be able to deal with them. If theres a lot of feelings and emotions at once, you dont have to do it all at once. Consider several viewings of the thing. Watch sensitive themes with friends or people you trust and feel safe with, and be aware of emotions and reactions so they dont run off with you. Make a note, thats all. But dont stay away from sensitive themes or topics because you dont think you have the insight to deal with it! In that case, observe your reaction with a little objective perspective, and use it as a stepping stone to educate yourself further. If you want. Sometimes it helps just to know which things bring out other things, so you can predict which emotional responses might come up.
The crew on set have all said that the dog was just eerie how well behaved it was. Most dogs train with play and will wag their tails when they know they're doing what they're asked. For example the "Wolves" in The Lion The Witch and The Wardrobe were all doing the snarl, but their tails had to be edited to stop moving because they were all "Look, we're doing the thing, this is really fun, I'm gonna get a treat because I'm snarling so good" This one for some reason didn't.
I kinda think of dogs as wolves that have been bred for . . . millennia, probably . . . to be exceptionally trusting and naive. So being around a wolf, even a part wolf, would be like going from hanging around sheltered children to suddenly being around an ex-marine who's actually looking at you critically and can absolutely see through and call you on your BS.
@@eyesofthecervino3366 They are wrong. This is a pure Husky. He is trained very well. The "my dog is part wolf" narrative is dangerous and needs to stop
@@Freckris Huh. Well, I have neither seen the movie, nor know much of anything about specific dog breeds, so I guess I'm spectacularly unqualified to comment. On a side note, what do you mean by the "my dog is part wolf" narrative? It's the first I've heard of it as any kind of a thing.
I just wanted to mention that John Carpenter did a fantastic job setting up the feeling that the audience knew what was going on, but then subverting those expectations by throwing curve balls at us. That is why this movie is one of my favorites.
You’re Next is like that for me. Tense, suspenseful, energetic and brutally violent, and it keeps you on the edge of your seat throughout. The Thing was also a big film for getting me into horror as a kid
“Are you watching this from a shelter? “ Pretty accurate, I’m watching it from Ukraine in 2022. And hey, they don’t have internet in shelters. Though I’m actually pre-downloading videos now to watch them at the time of scheduled power-offs.
I love that you brought up cancelling toxic ideas rather than people who have those ideas. My grandmother grew up in a super racist family, hearing the n-word every five minutes, and even had family who wanted people of color to just drop dead. She was a terribly neglectful mother.. However She’s one of the sweetest people I know, and even though she was a product of her times, she put in effort to unlearn all that toxic ideologies she grew up with. She’s super progressive, and is one of the most supportive people of me being trans and living happily, and put forth effort to have a better relationship with my mom, aunt, and uncles. If my grandma who grew up in the 50s had been willing to put forth effort to be a better, more accepting person, anyone can. It’s not the people who need to be put up, it’s the poor ideologies they have.
My grandparents are the same. I remember them being homophobic and stuff but when my brother came put the almost did a full 180. They loved him and changed for him. It's the same with a Translady they know. My grandpa knew her for years before and messes up. But he said he is trying. And him TRYING is the most important thing.
@Maria White Anyone can change for the better, they just have to be willing. And sometimes seeing how your negative actions will affect a loved one will do just that. I’m glad that your grandparents also changed for the better, it honestly seems so rare that people are willing to improve themselves.
Reminds me of my great grandma. She says the "n" word sometimes, but that's just because she was raised in a different time/world. My mom is quick to reprimand her, and we don't usually get mad at her for it, since she's never actually been racist, she just uses racist terms accidentally every now and then.
Interestingly enough, the dog whose performance you praised is, actually, the same dog that ended up playing "White Fang" in the 1991 movie with Ethan Hawke and its sequel. He was a Vancouver Island Wolf/Alaskan Malamute mix. Beautiful animal and beautifully trained. His name was Jed. 😊
1:36 It is also intentionally left unclear in the movie if the infected people know what they are or not. Or if it is just as much of a surprise to them when they transform. Some fan wrote a short story from the Thing's perspective. As far as it was concerned merging is just the only proper way to communicate and it didn't even understand the concept of having individual organs so thinking with just your brain was very odd, if I recall. As hard as it is for earthlings to understand each other just imagine trying to understand a space alien. Or it trying to understand you. It was pretty cool.
At last, someone else who actually considers there might be an alien's perspective to keep in mind here. To watch this film from The Thing's POV got me to thinking that it had every damned reason to be secretive and vicious. It was right there when MacReady was talking to the others about they could kill it. Of course they never bothered to try and communicate with it. The fan story sounds pretty damned awesome!
The scariest part about The Thing is that you could be the Thing and be completely unaware of it. The Thing's cells replace your own completely piecemeal without necessarily disrupting your bodily processes. So you could be infected and still be completely yourself right up until a biological switch is triggered and you split open and the Thing emerges.
no I don't think so, they found the bodies of the creatures they digested, and each part of the thing was its own separate organism able to think and move on its own.
It would be to the Thing's advantage not for you to know; if you're taken over completely you wouldn't act any different, or be any different, except that now the creature could shunt you aside whenever it wanted.
@@21stcenturyhiphop that's actually way more horrifying than if it just wiped "you" from existence and was just a well made imitation. Imagine being totally fine and then just shoved to the mental backseat as you feel your body split open/transform while you're forced to watch your friends being attacked and assimilated.
@@donovanb9020 that's why I disagree when people say the imitations are aware of it, because it wouldn't be to the Thing's advantage for you to know, because you'd act suspicious. But, you'd be uneasy because you'd subconsciously know, like when people suspect they have a disease and don't want to deal with the reality of that fact, so they make up excuses to psychologically feel better. So you wouldn't know, on the surface, but you'd suspect it beneath the surface, which would cause mental unease. It's basically demonic possession, but biologically.
This spring, I lost a good friend of several years because she basically went mad because we had different views on things and the outbreak. I respected her opinion on the matter and it really hurt that she couldn't respect the fact mine was different than hers and proceeded to say many horrible things to me over several days because of it. We've spoken again since but I cant consider her a friend anymore because of how much she hurt me then. I am afraid of how she could turn and hurt me in the same way again.I wish I could show her this video because I think it would be healthy for her to see, but sadly she doesnt understand english and me translating it for her would sound patronising. At least I highly valued watching this video. You guys do a great job.
Similar thing happened between my two sisters. One was so frustrated and angry about something unrelated and lashed out. I don't know if that breech can ever be repaired, even if she was willing to apologize. I don't trust her now, don't know if I can, that was such a betrayal.
I knew about it before it was even released by info-wars. Also found about airborne rabies in the cbc's lab, february 2020 acip meeting "unfinished business"
Unfortunately it’s much like trying to tell an addict to stop doing drugs. They need to WANT to change, you can’t force them to come to that conclusion. And right now many people are stuck in a confirmation bias loop, so they are entrenched in media that supports their biases so YOU are probably the crazy one from their POV. Ultimately it comes down to the golden rule that we are all taught in first grade, treat others the way you want to be treated. Not saying one group is perfect and the other is the problem, but there is one side of the political aisle that doesn’t follow the golden rule more consistently than the other, and it’s not exactly hard to figure out which side I am talking about. It’s just better for most people to cut out someone who will not treat you with any sort of dignity. It’s a hard choice to make and sometimes we try to make it work, but ultimately it’s better for your sanity not to tolerate other people’s intolerance.
Yes! Tackle Hereditary and maybe topics of grief and/or analyzing the relationship between the mother and son, and also maybe Midsommar and the topic of cult behavior?
Fun Fact: The Thing represents the struggle with the AIDS epidemic, which is probably why it seems so connected to covid right now. Also, through passing comments you make, I have discovered I probably have VERY differing view points from you both (ex. you are both religious, I am an atheist). You do a great job at keeping your opinions to yourself, but the reality is our opinions make us who we are so they were bound to leak out a little. All that said, that is part of why I love your channel! You are both (at least on screen) very calm and concise, I feel like if we were in the same room we could actually have a discussion about politics or whatever, and it would be a real discussion not a yelling match. Jonathan makes me want to find a good therapist too
I'll argue the opposite--they do a great job sharing their religous opinions. The foremost theologians within the Christian tradition are Jesus himself and Paul. And one of the teachings both stressed was a Godlike love of others is second only to love of God. Those other observances are important, but not nearly as essential to becoming what we should be. However, it is easier to understand clear rules of conduct than more vague ideas like loving others and becoming something better.
The Thing is based on the short novel Who goes there? by John W. Campbell. It doesn't necessarily represent the struggle with the AIDS epidemic; it was published in 1938 (in Astounding Stories). Some themes of the story may be lifted from Lovecrafts At the Mountains of Madness; AtMoM was published in 1936 (in Astounding Stories).
@@vexaris1890 the movie was probably made with the feelings and impact of the aids epidemic in mind, it was probably a source of some inspiration in direction or some aspect of it
Nice to see so many people "rediscovering" my favorite scifi film and the ONLY horror film I find worth my time. I would have liked to have heard more about the psychological aspects of this film since you had an expert there, but otherwise I did like your comment on how the world reacted to the pandemic (something I've been marginally successful in expressing to people in my own social circle) and I'm glad I'm not alone in this. There's a reason why that dog always had an air of danger about him and never felt "right". That dog was a highly intelligent and highly dangerous half Malamute/half wolf hybrid named Jeb that required two handlers when it was on set. The set was required to be on lockdown whenever Jeb was there to keep the dog from being spooked, and the actor that played Clark had to train with Jeb from a couple months just so he could learn the dog "cues" and walk beside him without turning on him. Even so, that scene where he appeared out of a dark doorway, crept down the hall, listened at one door, paused at the next door then entered... was the creepiest thing I've ever seen on film.... and was done in that one single take.And with that, all I have left to is is: Dun, dun... dun, dun... dun, dun... dun, dun... Dun, dun, tip, tip... tip... tip... dun, dun, tip... tip...
Love it! Alan may have known the dog trivia, but I (Jonathan) did not. Your comment about hitting the psychological aspects of the film makes me want to make another pass at it someday from that lens. Perhaps we will...
Why is The Thing the only horror movie worth your time? I'm not trying to argue, it's just there is a vast array of horror movies that I'm curious. Do you just not like it as a genre?
@@DestinyKiller Obviously I can't speak for the person your actually talking to, but a relatively common thing for horror fans is to be disappointed because many horror films focus on gore and after watching a lot of it, you become desensitized. I have not watched this and honestly probably never will because I am a massive chicken, but it does lean into the darker aspects of the mind (paranoia) and human emotion, which can be far more fear-inducing.
@@bananacat4339 Agreed. I couldn't stand horror movies for the longest time because it seemed the only sort available were of the splatter and slasher type. I want to be scared! Not sent to the bathroom to vomit. Wasn't until I found some psychological horror from Japan that I realized that, yes, it *is* possible for film-makers to create a horrifying story that doesn't rely on nausea.
The whole dog pen scene was the first one ever that actually turned my gut. I was eating breakfast the first time I saw it and literally set it aside. I'm a woman who enjoys food, so me doing that says a lot.
I scared the shit outta myself the first time with this scene/movie. I was 12-13 or so but raised on horror movies. My parents and brother were out but I found this and it sounded good. Human Body horror tends to be my kryptonite, I would later learn. I had to pause the movie at that point with the sled dogs. Went out to our dark garage except for a little light from the door’s window leading in. Grabbed a water and was going to restart the laundry while debating if I should finish the movie. I felt something wet drag up the back of my thigh, I slowly turned and in terrible lighting was our German Shepherd who I had no idea was in there. I fucking screamed my head off, our poor boy. (For context, he actually had a terrible habit of nosing the back of legs/knees when someone did laundry like hey, pay attention to me. Little did he know I’d kill his hearing that night.) 😂
Jonathan here. Alan's loved it for years, and this was my first viewing, but I loved it and I'm not even generally into gore. The practical effects are astounding and the sense of dread is palpable. Masterpiece.
@@mediatorraptor3349 My personal feeling as to why this movie didn't do so great in the box office is that it did so well at conveying that sense of dread and isolation that compounded with the practical effects, it was too much for people back then. Even The Exorcist had a happy Regan not remember the horrors at the end. Not in this movie. There was no release of pressure, heavy doom til the end.
@@mediatorraptor3349 it came out during ET The Extra-Terrestrial's historic run to become of one of the highest grossing movies of all time not just the 80s. Blade Runner also had to deal with ET as well & it was also a box office bomb.
@@mediatorraptor3349 it had really step competition. And honestly, it wasn't exactly a feel good movie. People were not seeing it over and over which is what made a hit back then. Even people I know who count as their favorite movie say seeing it once on the big screen was enough.
About that disagreeing with people thing you mention. There's sometimes an obvious difference between petty differences that shouldn't ruin relationships. Such as a favourite character of a show you both like. But then there's the difference of morality that clearly has a right and wrong side. Such as believing an entire race is inferior or not ALLOWED to live. It's about how the difference of opinions cause harm to people. If it's harmless then just let them live their lives. But not standing up to those who have no one's interests in mind but their own, and whose actions hurt people, is definitely not a "petty disagreement" that "could've been avoided" and "both parties are in the wrong" in my eyes.
He did say that some people are too far gone in their ideological extremes, which sounds like what you're describing. Where "cancel cultural" fails is that it too is an extreme ideology, one that forces differing views into "good" or "bad," "right" or "wrong," and not accounting for middle ground where middle ground can and does legitimately exist. Extreme views, be they hateful or a sense of absolute moral superiority or rigid adherence to law and order, don't help fix society's problems. They feed an "us versus them" adversarial mentality, instead of a compassionate "we're all in this together, let's fix it" approach. If someone is too far gone then you should not stand for such behaviour, but don't yourself get all high and mighty with your own sense of righteousness, because you risk becoming the very thing you're fighting against: extremism. Just my thought, hope it helps.
It's basically what they said about the Thing representing "toxic mentality". In that analogy; Sometimes the Thing is playing a harmless person. And you would think 'attacking' it would be seen as 'extreme'. But it's not something you can 'find a middle ground' with. You wouldn't try to reason with the mashed flesh mass. I just don't like when 'find a middle ground' is ALWAYS seen as the thing that 'good' people do. Cuz sometimes people are 'Thing's (in this analogy, being the 'too far gone' they mentioned), but play a very convincing decent human. It seems 'extreme' cuz others don't see the Thing like you do. But hey that cud just be my pessimism talking. I'd definitely love nothing more than that. But it's just not always a choice, or it's just best to not get your hopes up. But don't worry, i just find the "we're all in this together, let's fix it" to be very.... idk? just unrealistic in my mind. (also sorry for my essay of a reply 😅)
@@kinagrill i promise its not that deep man, just cause one person's finger slipped on a keyboard doesn't mean all those dang millennials are reverting back to their illiterate state because ooga booga phone bad. this is a movie about aliens fuckin around can we please just get over the self righteousness for 3 minutes
Suggestions for future films - The Joker (mental illness and how it is affected by classist struggles) / Twelve Angry Men (mediating, negotiating, communication, bias) / Split (trauma, DID, survival instinct) / Three Billboards in Ebbing Missouri (bias, responses to grief, morality, the choices we make) / Welcome to Marwen (PTSD, addiction, recovery, support systems, outlets) / Antichrist (LVT) (grief, sexism, trauma, the ugly, violent side of psychology) / The Big Sick (cultural distinctions or conflicts, relationships, therapy, communication) / Disaster Artist (boundaries, friendships, aspirations, gaslighting) / Jojo Rabbit (children's responses to propaganda and disaster, empathy, imagination, reality, community, overcoming differences) / Hunt for the Wilderpeople (abandonment, grief, ideas of family, responsibility)
That music aged well because Carpenter is not just an awesome director, he is also an awesome composer. He made the scores of almost all of his movies.
Hahaha omg seriously. My brother's been heavily involved with a wolf-dog rescue for nearly 10 years now, so a lot of the things people interpret as "intimidating" or "dangerous" just read as "not a golden retriever" to me. Wolves are naturally shy, conflict-averse creatures that are incredibly smart. The "creeping down the hallway" thing for me was more "lets advance carefully but calmly through new territory", not predatory.
"You can feel the calculating in the dog" buwahahhah, as a husky owner, this is the most accurate description of them ever. They are intelligent, self serving jerks LOL. My husband and I LOVE this movie and always refer to our dog as "the thing".
the Thing is still one of my all time favorite films. SOOOOOOO many great effects. The paranoia of the actors and the feeling of closeness of the entire compound with all the hallway being narrow and often have junk in them.
9:30 Hysterical that the allegory of the Thing extending to our current mistrust even extends as a allegory of months without a haircut and quarantine beards makes us all look like we’re from the 80’s with Kurt Russels “glam rock” hair!
I honestly believe that the reason this movie has aged so well is not only the fantastic acting but the practical effects. They filmmakers worked so hard on getting it right that it holds still holds up today. One of my favorite films of all time. As a teenager, this movie is what got me interested in Lovecraft, not the other way around.
I want to add, I have developed PTSD from the whole event of covid and being locked down, and isolated from my loved ones. I suffer from extreme levels of anxiety, paranoia, and tactile hallucinations. Some days I can't even trust myself, my skin crawls and I completely shut down and forget hours of my day. This pandemic effects everyone differently, but for some people the amount of distrust, and paranoia can be devastating in long term. For the US, the lockdown has never felt like it has ended. It's still here, this nightmare has yet to end, and I don't even know when I can start to heal, if I survive.
I'm sorry to hear that. Mental and emotional health is so important. I would definitely recommend online counseling and communities. Betterhelp is amazing. If you can't invest into that yet I would try finding grounding techniques and going out for a walk in nature as often as you can if you can. Take care of yourself, you're worth it.
I’m a SPFX makeup artist and The Thing is one of my all time favorite horror films. The makeup and practical effects in this film are so dope! They don’t make movies like this anymore.
Nihilism is a valid point of view, I think it would be interesting to talk about people that keep pushing on without needing any meaning to life and the grand scheme.
when i think i've seen all your guys' video there is another in recommended. the backlog you have before yall 'blew up' is still amazing and the quality we expect it. appreciate you guys. keep it up. much love.
This has quickly become one of my new favorite channels. And honestly I think a lot of people can benefit from watching your videos and learning the great perspectives you're focusing on. Keep up the great work and may your channel keep growing.
I remember seeing this movie when i was 9. One week my dad got a collection of horror films from the 50’s. Spent the week everyday watching one scary movie like “Them”, “The Day of the Tiphads”, “The Fiend without a face” and Howard Hawk’s “The Thing from Another World”. Well that inspired my dad to get John Carpenter’s “The Thing” and we watched it that friday night and I definitely wanna say that movie scarred me. I was so scared i couldn’t sleep with my cats in my bed for a few weeks after out of fear they would turn into monsters. Goods memories 😂. But now being 25 this one of my favorite movies of all time. Everything from the psychological horror. To the who done it type of mystery this film is brilliant. One thing that still gets me is how smart it is. Normally in most horror films thenplot is driven forward by characters doing really stupid stuff. Everyone even down to the least important side characters act realistically and for the most part (remember they are all sleep deprived) completely within reason. Btw watch the documentary on the film its mindblowing
One of my favorite writers, Eliazer Yudkowsky, had one of his characters reflect that most people just reflect the culture they came from and "no one told them they should be more humane than everyone they've ever seen"
I honestly found myself asking, where's the guy who try to comunicate with the alien to find any common ground before he gets killed. but I also Love this movie in it's original state.
I'd be curious to see your take on Frozen 2, how Anna faces her own anxiety and depression and the effects it's having on the other people in her life? I know you guys spoke about Kristoff, but I feel like there's so much to unpack in terms of Anna's and Elsa's characters! Just a thought, it's one of my favourite movies :)
A really good horror film for Cinema therapy would be Hereditary by Ari Aster. On the surface it's a supernatural story, but the real horror is how the family can't communicate and can't process grief. If they could, they could easily come together to address the supernatural element that threatens them. I think it would be a great fit for your channel.
Disagreement as an immoral stance is definitely context sensitive and its so frustrating that sense of context is eroding away. I try to save that for real people who want my and others human rights or even our ability to survive taken away for their percieved benefit (in a John Mulaney voice, "and now there's *bleeps* again!"), but it can be difficult because being right is kinda addictive, so I'm trying to get addicted to being wrong so I can keep on learning. The moment I start to feel unsafe disagreeing with someone is also something I'm making an effort to identify, because those tend to become unsafe relationships for me wherein I'm not allowed to have boundaries or be my own person. And I just don't have the capacity to teach people right now that just because I disagree with their reading of the motivations of this TV show character doesn't mean I value them less or think they're stupid, and that I'm a person who's allowed to have my own thoughts. :/ The whole pandemic thing has fully eroded my stamina for reminding people I'm a person whose life still matters even if I'm immunocompromised and they're not, so if you can safely wear a mask then please do. Have heard and read people say I should just die already so they can go on vacation way too many times. That's one way I'm fine with tribalism, in a sense. Like why wouldn't I want to be around people who don't devalue my life and health for their convenience or pleasure LOL Read, not their HEALTH, but *convenience*. I don't think it's wrong to stop socializing with people who refuse to do such. Again, it's context.
8:33 I'm kinda late but I really needed that. I think I was that friend and I did apologize to my group but not personally to the one I disagreed with the most. I didn't explicitly say I think their views are awful and that THEY'RE awful for having them, but my tone definitely was annoyed, angry, and probably disappointed when trying to address them after they stated it. Guess I'll talk to them personally about it again despite how friggin uncomfortable it was. aaaaaaaaah
It was really cool to watch this! The Thing is my favorite horror movie from the 80's horror era by far. I think it would be very cool to see you two bring on a commentator to discuss the emotional impact of systemic racism on a person. It would be good to get the perspective of someone who experiences trauma related to race (similarly, a person of color who is also queer would be a great person to talk to since they face discrimination from race and gender/sexual idenities.) For example, it would be AWESOME to see the three of you discuss Get Out by Jordan Peele!
I was very ready to hear their thoughts on paranoia and how it affects people, but I feel like they didn't do a good enough job explaining it. Sure there's the lockdown making people worried about getting sick from others, but that's a stretch to call it paranoia especially since it's a rational fear. It'd be more like how everyone panic shopped for supplies during the lockdown; or going as far back as 1999 when everyone thought the world would end, is a way better example. There was so much potential, yet they were side-tracked and started talking about trusting others, banning together, etc.
I agree. This wasn't about paranoia (suspicion and mistrust of people or their actions without evidence or justification) as much as it was about dealing with chronic, legitimate fear.
The crew members were also pushed into paranoia with a little help from the Thing itself. Upon examination of the events: 1) Blair may have already been a thing before his using the computer to determine infection rate. He needed to be considered dangerous to be isolated to construct the ship. 2) Palmer who we later found out was a Thing, was probably antagonizing Windows to cause more chaos. 3) The Thing, at the point where MacCready makes the "I know im human..." speech, realizes MacCready is a threat, that's when pieces of his clothes start turning up, implicating him. At the start of the film, the computer chess game is the metaphor for the entire film. A chess game between a military pilot and an extraterrestrial organism, The Thing.
I often tell people "We'll just have to agree to disagree" and usually that ends the argument/discussion. If it doesn't, that person and i usually never talk again.
I grew up watching horror films and my only reaction was gaining a love for myth and monsters. By the time I was six I could quote most of the Alien films. I didn't see The Thing until I was fourteen, and it scared the absolute shit outta me.
This is my FAVORITE movie. John Carpenter, Kurt Russell, and practical effects. Our mutual love of this movie (and Friday the 13th) is what brought me and my husband together.
Also, "not to get political" is rather impossible for a lot of people. The more marginalized a particular population is, the more their rights and existence is deemed to simply be "politics". LGBTQ rights, civil rights, womens rights... these are all "political."
Everything is politics, but people don't get that. If you value something in your life (a roof over your head, health care, garbage pickup, anything) it's because of policy. Those are taken for granted, though. Whereas, as you said, marginalized folks don't have a lot to take for granted without being villified, oppressed, murdered, etc . "Don't get political" is such a priveliged position
There are some of us whose very humanity had to be legislated so anytime we speak of our needs its viewed as 'political'. Only those who have never had to have a law allowing them to exist have the luxury of being non-political.
While I agree with you on not hating someone for having a difference of politics and/or opinions/beliefs, I, personally, feel that, especially during the last 4 years, I'm flat out exhausted from trying to explain to people that I deserve basic human rights that some people in power and their supporters are okay with taking away from people. I feel that while not everyone who supports/goes along with certain people in power are racist/homophobic/etc, they're okay with people who are racist/homophobic/etc and that being those things isn't a dealbreaker. Those people aren't actually oppressing people, but they're okay with people who are the oppressors, and to me, that isn't something, I feel, we can "agree to disagree" over. I tend to go by the tolerance paradox philosophy. In order to remain a tolerant society, we can not tolerate intolerance, otherwise, tolerance will die. I absolutely LOVE this channel and have been binging it since I first discovered it a couple days ago. You two are amazing, and I love the thoughts and reactions from both of you. Keep up the amazing work. ♥
Completely agree. Like, if the simple act of me (a trans man) asking to be called by my name is deemed political by someone then I'm just not going to talk to them. Like, it's the bare minimum but it's apparently too much to ask. I don't like being seen as a second class citizen and I also don't like it when being legally lesser isn't seen as a big deal to a lot of people.
Agreed... racism has real life consequences for people's lives, and I'm sorry if that was your upbringing and that someone may need to "educate" you, but the people who are hurt by it are tired of teaching people what dehumanization and oppression is. People are loosing their lives over this mess. And people are tired. I am not obligated to "agree to disagree" with people who believe that I don't have the right to exist. Even if they are a "product of their time." People like me existed during "that time" too, and while it may have been the standard for them, it was not the standard for people who looked like me living then. Those thoughts had consequences then too! I love ya'll. I just hate the minimizing of some of this.
So I have to go against all of my values just because a person I’m associated the political party with is a bigot? This is why this needs to be said, because treating one side as morally correct completely invalidates the ability to help balance everything out. I mean what about stuff on your side is contributing to the exploitation of human rights? This is the problem with the way you word things: you make the other side the bad guy, which makes all their other arguments invalid in the minds of people. I’m exhausted to have to feel guilty to vote and do my civic duty because apparently only your dealbreakers matter.
@@thomasffrench3639 So you're okay with racist/homophobic/transphobic/etc people/policies/laws? Then yeah, you're a horrible person and a bigot for being okay with that stuff. There actually is a right and wrong when it comes to basic human rights, and you being okay with those things is wrong. Period.
Hi Jonathan and Alan, I have only just discovered Cinema Therapy, and I already love it. Keep it coming, guys! Also the episode made me think of something to do with movies, but more on perhaps a meta level: this feeling of togetherness you get from watching a movie together with a group of people. I think we underestimate the influence of this in the cinema experience , it's not just the big screen, great sound and the general idea of a night out. It's watching it together with all these people, these shared experiences. I realised this as well last year when I saw Die Hard for the first time in my life (really?! yes, really...) I didn't even know why it was a thing to watch it at Christmas.... I found out I loved Die Hard! But I refrained from watching all of them at once, because I wanted to have that shared experience at Christmas again. Sitting home alone (another good option!) watching Die Hard, knowing so many other people are doing the same thing makes me feel so connected. I hope others feel that too.
Paranoia is a mental illness symptom, because most people aren't out to get you. Humans aren't predators. They mostly act on self-interest, like shopping, work, sex and substance abuse. And there are even limits and exceptions to that last one, like abusive relationships, military service, suicide, self-harm, eating disorders, religion, conservatism, rigid gender roles, which are all uncomfortable and dangerous behaviors.
@@darlalathan6143 but humans are predators, notice how our eye sockets are front facing in our skulls? prey animals like squirrels have the eyes on the side of their heads, which gives them a wider cone of vision, because it makes it harder for predators to sneak up on them unseen.
@@hughjanos3992 Despite our eye placement, which as primates are also good for brachiation (branch-swinging in trees) and gathering, humans started as prey animals and gatherers, until early humans discovered fire-building and invented flint spears, tomahawks, atlatls, archery, tamed horses, and dogs, becoming Earth's greatest predators.
Psychologically interesting bit of trivia: the Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station shows The Thing after the last plane leaves and they're isolated from February to October.
I'm wondering, they talk about all this divide and racism and the paranoia people feel, but I wished they addressed the hate crimes that Asian people in the West have had to face because of this virus. It's a really serious issue, and even those channel that are usually very active in the whole activism thing don't talk about it. And honestly, that's kinda sad
Our husky is part wolf and he's the sassiest, biggest fluff you'll ever meet. He's never growled at a thing and thinks everything is a potential friend or snack. It takes quite a bit of training for a dog to react that way without it being a fear based reaction to stimuli outside of the trainer's control, especially for huskies who are inherently friendly by nature. Our German shepherd on the other hand barks at the wind and is a bit more reactive but we haven't been able to train her to bark on command, unlike our husky who will. So this speaks to all three: the dog, the trainer, and the editing. It's amazing. As someone who enjoys the occasional horror film (in moderation, otherwise I won't sleep) this was a fun deviation genre-wise. Thanks guys!
I first saw this movie when I was seven years old. With my parents. My dad thought it was funny to tell me it was based on a true story. Despite being utterly traumatized and not sleeping properly for weeks, I do remember finding the upside down head walking funny, even as a little girl. Still, it was quite formative, so now I've also got an appreciation for artistically arranged gore, monstrosities, tragedies, etc.
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Q: Is it "nihilistic" or "nihilistic"?
A: It doesn't matter.
You win the internet.
Gold!
@@thillirrr6579 "Knee-hill-istic" instead of "nigh-uh-listic" would be a more Latinized pronunciation, but it's no big deal how you say it.
Isn't it pronounced "al - Yoo - min - e - um"?
It's "nihilistic"
The fact that they're in the wrong seats is scarier than the actual movie.
lol yes
This is the way the seats have always been
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that had to have been a purposeful choice
Lol. For real!
Fun fact: the dog was part wolf and actually spooked the actors quite a bit!
and required a specialist trainer. Wolves....are something different. I have seen them in a zoo and they definately don't look t you like dogs do, even huskies or german shepards. Wolves scared me and they looked so tiny compared to tigers and polar bears.
that explains the cold look it has and how it moved, it has the eyes of a ruthless hunter
@@kissarococo2459 I mean, despite that, they've been such a deep part of our history, dogs come from wolves after all
Extra Fun Fact: It was, actually, the same wolfdog that later played White Fang in the Disney films.
Fun Fact: Norwegian audiences knew the twist upfront, as the Norwegian pilot chasing the dog shouts, "Look out, he's not what he appears to be!"
All due credit must be given to Rob Bottin who did the transforming creature effects. He quite nearly worked himself to death on this film, working 16-18 hour days, for weeks non-stop until he collapsed one day of severe exhaustion and had to be hospitalized for an extended period. He suffered for his art and it shows.
Amen!
And no one these days do the same thing with practical effects! His effects are so damn fantastic, every time I watch this film, I see something "new."
And he did all of it when he was TWENTY-TWO
@@emeryltekutsu4357 I really wish they'd had enough footage of the practical effects to release a 'practical' cut. That movie could have been so much more...
@@BeckyNosferatu well, considering he nearly killed himself I wouldn't say that is particularly bad...
FUN FACT: THE NORWEGIAN AT THE BEGINNING SAYS "ITS NOT A DOG! IT'S NOT A DOG!"
Yeah watching this in Minnesota then again in Germany changed the experience a little. Because people who spoke Norwegian yelled it out.
I'm a year late but apparently the Norwegian viewers were somewhat mad because it spoiled the movie to them
It might not complete you as a person, but it might complete you as an alien shape-shifter...
Goo... completes... me.
@@CinemaTherapyShow one of us, one of us, one of us, one of us....
@@kinagrill may i join?
@@georgehutter339 You already is part of the whole~ *creepy laugh*
Open mouth, point finger, scream shrilly
I had a Wolf-dog I had adopted from the shelter. We thought he was a German Shepherd cross. He was but there were things that stood out like his size as he grew, his stance and how freaking smart he was. He knew so many words from the start it was mind blowing. During a walk it started to rain and I said you should walk under the umbrella. And he quietly strolled under! 🤯
He probably heard ‘umbrella’ and ‘walk’ and connected both. Still super smart tho
@@PodreyJenkin138 Animals can learn quite a few words if you teach them properly. Dogs, cats, etc.
What's the name of the boi?
@@PodreyJenkin138 Just browse the first tens of results on this stuff in Google Scholar or something. Look up some books. Lots of evidence now that dogs have the same type language centre in their brain that we do. By current Ethology, it seems dogs can perfectly understand language by the precise context of its use, but they don't carry that understanding over in the abstract sense to different situations. Dogs have situational cognition, but not abstract conceptual cognition, is why they seem stupid lots of the time, and also of course because of the immense language gap and short-circuits between how we generally express and perceive things and how they habitually do. If you think about it, if a dog can survive alone in the wilderness (track and test foods, band up with tons of different animals, gauge the weather and other animal behaviors to adapt its behavior, etc. etc.) then it probably understands at least the amount of symbols and signs that it'd need to learn the relatively few things we humans would ask of them.
Also my dogs have always known to walk in the shadow when it's hot out, and they know to shake off wetness the moment they get out of the rain. If a wolf-dog notices it's dry beneath an umbrella it can probably reason that it's nicer to walk underneath that.
Look up Bunny the talking dog on TH-cam. She's a sheepadoodle and she communicates using buttons; each button is a word. She will ask existential questions, and in one video she caught a glimpse of herself in the mirror and, using her buttons, asked, "Who is that?"
I think out of the whole team, around 60% of them aren't actually killed by the Thing. They die as a result of paranoia taking over.
Two deaths are by humans alone, the rest in this movie comes by assimilation and then being killed for it. That would be Clark (shot in the head) and Fuchs; killed himself but arguable he was about to get assimilated so he did it.
@@semma88 Well and the 2 norwegians in the beginning
@@AndDiracisHisProphet ah you are right, the ones chasing the dog.
@@semma88 yes, but you are also right. it wasn't just paranoia that killed the men, it was the thing itself
Paranoia is the real antagonist of the film. It makes it impossible to root out the Thing easily and forces the group to divide and bicker and panic. It makes for such a good atmosphere in a horror film and the fact that John Carpenter had the foresight not to give the film clear-cut answers all the time means it's a mystery people can still pick at to this day.
You can't tell when someone's been turned at several points, you can only hazard a guess. You're just as in the dark as the characters themselves. I love that. Horror films benefit greatly from mystery. Not all questions need answers.
You say they trust each other in the end, but if you pay attention to the way MacReady and Nauls glance at each other in the final scene, it's clear what both of them are thinking. 'Is this person I'm looking at human?' And that, to me, is the most horrifying moment in the entire film. Did they defeat The Thing, or is it staring you right in the face?
Nauls was killed. It was Childs at the end.
@@jamessullivan4391 Then in The Thing 2 (the video game released on the PS2) Childs died from the cold but MacReady survives.
What I like about the movie is that most of the group was making good decisions, unlike most horror movies. There just wasn't a lot they could do.
It is just....it didnt matter what they did. The "Thing" was also smart. did many smart things and many "It" farse failed only cause of luck like the Heart attack. The crew was actually really lucky they managed to beat the Thing....I think
It reminds me of Alien in that the characters make reasonable decisions. Not all of them are good, but they’re not terrible and unrealistic, anyone could make them. That’s what makes this movie so terrifying to me, is how it uses that to say “this could be you. And you’d be screwed.”
It's not just an "80s synth score." It's Ennio Morricone using relatively new technology to create a lasting composition because he has that capability. Best. Leo.
Absolutely! That's exactly why it's an "80's synth score" that rises above the others and has endured. Morricone is phenomenal. His work on The Mission, The Untouchables, and on the Dollars trilogy ranks high on our list of favorite scores.
Can you believe that this score was nominated for "Worst Score" in the Razzies that year?
@@animeotaku307 wait really
@@naiknaik8812 Yup. Really.
And the same composer would win an Academy award for best score for “The Hateful Eight”... which used three unused tracks from his work on “The Thing.”
Didn’t the director, john carpenter, score almost all of his films?
You do need to see Schindler's List, but you also need to see The Thing.
Alan agrees, really. Fear is an important part of life. So are totally gross makeup effects.
@@CinemaTherapyShow you guys should react to the horror movie "it follows" it's a whole other level of paranoia you get from that one...
Hell yeah!
Is Schindler's List the one about the dinosaurs?
@@urbanitecrusher5709 close enough
Them: This is a R rated movie, so if you're sensitive to that kind of stuff, don't watch it
Me: Nah, let's traumatize ourselves today
Trauma, trauma, trauma!!
Same 😂
That's me with nearly all scary videos, lol. Gore makes me squeamish, but if it's scary in other ways, I'll just be like "Who cares? I wanna watch it!"
I do this too 😭
Is it because its validating our world perception?
Are we looking for answers?
We want to feel less 'weird', or accepted for our 'weirdness'?
We just want to go away from our own problems for a bit?
Probably depends on the person and context, so we might not ever know! You can absolutely watch things that are sensitive to you, the key I think is to do it with some informed insight about your own emotions and internal landscape. So that if it opens up memories, or brings up feelings or emotions, you want to be able to deal with them. If theres a lot of feelings and emotions at once, you dont have to do it all at once. Consider several viewings of the thing. Watch sensitive themes with friends or people you trust and feel safe with, and be aware of emotions and reactions so they dont run off with you. Make a note, thats all.
But dont stay away from sensitive themes or topics because you dont think you have the insight to deal with it! In that case, observe your reaction with a little objective perspective, and use it as a stepping stone to educate yourself further. If you want. Sometimes it helps just to know which things bring out other things, so you can predict which emotional responses might come up.
The crew on set have all said that the dog was just eerie how well behaved it was. Most dogs train with play and will wag their tails when they know they're doing what they're asked. For example the "Wolves" in The Lion The Witch and The Wardrobe were all doing the snarl, but their tails had to be edited to stop moving because they were all "Look, we're doing the thing, this is really fun, I'm gonna get a treat because I'm snarling so good"
This one for some reason didn't.
I kinda think of dogs as wolves that have been bred for . . . millennia, probably . . . to be exceptionally trusting and naive. So being around a wolf, even a part wolf, would be like going from hanging around sheltered children to suddenly being around an ex-marine who's actually looking at you critically and can absolutely see through and call you on your BS.
@@eyesofthecervino3366 a husky is not a wolf. They're very smart sometimes, but they are still dogs.
@@Freckris
Oh! Several people in the comments are saying this particular animal actor was part wolf. Sorry -- I completely forgot to mention that :P
@@eyesofthecervino3366 They are wrong. This is a pure Husky. He is trained very well.
The "my dog is part wolf" narrative is dangerous and needs to stop
@@Freckris
Huh. Well, I have neither seen the movie, nor know much of anything about specific dog breeds, so I guess I'm spectacularly unqualified to comment.
On a side note, what do you mean by the "my dog is part wolf" narrative? It's the first I've heard of it as any kind of a thing.
I just wanted to mention that John Carpenter did a fantastic job setting up the feeling that the audience knew what was going on, but then subverting those expectations by throwing curve balls at us. That is why this movie is one of my favorites.
You’re Next is like that for me. Tense, suspenseful, energetic and brutally violent, and it keeps you on the edge of your seat throughout. The Thing was also a big film for getting me into horror as a kid
“Are you watching this from a shelter? “
Pretty accurate, I’m watching it from Ukraine in 2022. And hey, they don’t have internet in shelters. Though I’m actually pre-downloading videos now to watch them at the time of scheduled power-offs.
I love that you brought up cancelling toxic ideas rather than people who have those ideas. My grandmother grew up in a super racist family, hearing the n-word every five minutes, and even had family who wanted people of color to just drop dead. She was a terribly neglectful mother.. However She’s one of the sweetest people I know, and even though she was a product of her times, she put in effort to unlearn all that toxic ideologies she grew up with. She’s super progressive, and is one of the most supportive people of me being trans and living happily, and put forth effort to have a better relationship with my mom, aunt, and uncles. If my grandma who grew up in the 50s had been willing to put forth effort to be a better, more accepting person, anyone can.
It’s not the people who need to be put up, it’s the poor ideologies they have.
So she traded in one misguided idealogy for another?
Maybe she's just easily influenced.
@Charlie Snow what was the other misguided ideology?
My grandparents are the same. I remember them being homophobic and stuff but when my brother came put the almost did a full 180. They loved him and changed for him. It's the same with a Translady they know. My grandpa knew her for years before and messes up. But he said he is trying. And him TRYING is the most important thing.
@Maria White Anyone can change for the better, they just have to be willing. And sometimes seeing how your negative actions will affect a loved one will do just that. I’m glad that your grandparents also changed for the better, it honestly seems so rare that people are willing to improve themselves.
Reminds me of my great grandma. She says the "n" word sometimes, but that's just because she was raised in a different time/world. My mom is quick to reprimand her, and we don't usually get mad at her for it, since she's never actually been racist, she just uses racist terms accidentally every now and then.
Interestingly enough, the dog whose performance you praised is, actually, the same dog that ended up playing "White Fang" in the 1991 movie with Ethan Hawke and its sequel. He was a Vancouver Island Wolf/Alaskan Malamute mix. Beautiful animal and beautifully trained. His name was Jed. 😊
Black swan would be so good for this
Indeed!
YES
Yeah that's a great choice. That film has such an oppressive feeling of tension in like every single scene
1:36 It is also intentionally left unclear in the movie if the infected people know what they are or not. Or if it is just as much of a surprise to them when they transform. Some fan wrote a short story from the Thing's perspective. As far as it was concerned merging is just the only proper way to communicate and it didn't even understand the concept of having individual organs so thinking with just your brain was very odd, if I recall. As hard as it is for earthlings to understand each other just imagine trying to understand a space alien. Or it trying to understand you. It was pretty cool.
That short story is awesome!!
At last, someone else who actually considers there might be an alien's perspective to keep in mind here. To watch this film from The Thing's POV got me to thinking that it had every damned reason to be secretive and vicious. It was right there when MacReady was talking to the others about they could kill it. Of course they never bothered to try and communicate with it. The fan story sounds pretty damned awesome!
“The Things” by Peter Watts. Truly tremendous.
The scariest part about The Thing is that you could be the Thing and be completely unaware of it. The Thing's cells replace your own completely piecemeal without necessarily disrupting your bodily processes. So you could be infected and still be completely yourself right up until a biological switch is triggered and you split open and the Thing emerges.
Mmmmm I’m not sure about that.. wasn’t there a scene with the initial infection of the first man and he turned to goo or something?
no I don't think so, they found the bodies of the creatures they digested, and each part of the thing was its own separate organism able to think and move on its own.
It would be to the Thing's advantage not for you to know; if you're taken over completely you wouldn't act any different, or be any different, except that now the creature could shunt you aside whenever it wanted.
@@21stcenturyhiphop that's actually way more horrifying than if it just wiped "you" from existence and was just a well made imitation.
Imagine being totally fine and then just shoved to the mental backseat as you feel your body split open/transform while you're forced to watch your friends being attacked and assimilated.
@@donovanb9020 that's why I disagree when people say the imitations are aware of it, because it wouldn't be to the Thing's advantage for you to know, because you'd act suspicious. But, you'd be uneasy because you'd subconsciously know, like when people suspect they have a disease and don't want to deal with the reality of that fact, so they make up excuses to psychologically feel better. So you wouldn't know, on the surface, but you'd suspect it beneath the surface, which would cause mental unease. It's basically demonic possession, but biologically.
Discovered you with The Thing, cried with you with Inside Out. Keep your great videos coming!
Thank you! Will do!
This spring, I lost a good friend of several years because she basically went mad because we had different views on things and the outbreak. I respected her opinion on the matter and it really hurt that she couldn't respect the fact mine was different than hers and proceeded to say many horrible things to me over several days because of it. We've spoken again since but I cant consider her a friend anymore because of how much she hurt me then. I am afraid of how she could turn and hurt me in the same way again.I wish I could show her this video because I think it would be healthy for her to see, but sadly she doesnt understand english and me translating it for her would sound patronising.
At least I highly valued watching this video. You guys do a great job.
Similar thing happened between my two sisters. One was so frustrated and angry about something unrelated and lashed out. I don't know if that breech can ever be repaired, even if she was willing to apologize. I don't trust her now, don't know if I can, that was such a betrayal.
I knew about it before it was even released by info-wars. Also found about airborne rabies in the cbc's lab, february 2020 acip meeting "unfinished business"
Unfortunately it’s much like trying to tell an addict to stop doing drugs. They need to WANT to change, you can’t force them to come to that conclusion. And right now many people are stuck in a confirmation bias loop, so they are entrenched in media that supports their biases so YOU are probably the crazy one from their POV.
Ultimately it comes down to the golden rule that we are all taught in first grade, treat others the way you want to be treated. Not saying one group is perfect and the other is the problem, but there is one side of the political aisle that doesn’t follow the golden rule more consistently than the other, and it’s not exactly hard to figure out which side I am talking about.
It’s just better for most people to cut out someone who will not treat you with any sort of dignity. It’s a hard choice to make and sometimes we try to make it work, but ultimately it’s better for your sanity not to tolerate other people’s intolerance.
I'm pretty sure this movie is the origin of "Kill it with fire!".
Would love to see you two tackle Hereditary.
Yes! Tackle Hereditary and maybe topics of grief and/or analyzing the relationship between the mother and son, and also maybe Midsommar and the topic of cult behavior?
Yes
Oh holy cow
7:15 When someone coughs in 2020 and they haven't got a mask
Haha! Literal LOL's on that one.
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Fun Fact: The Thing represents the struggle with the AIDS epidemic, which is probably why it seems so connected to covid right now.
Also, through passing comments you make, I have discovered I probably have VERY differing view points from you both (ex. you are both religious, I am an atheist). You do a great job at keeping your opinions to yourself, but the reality is our opinions make us who we are so they were bound to leak out a little. All that said, that is part of why I love your channel! You are both (at least on screen) very calm and concise, I feel like if we were in the same room we could actually have a discussion about politics or whatever, and it would be a real discussion not a yelling match. Jonathan makes me want to find a good therapist too
I'll argue the opposite--they do a great job sharing their religous opinions. The foremost theologians within the Christian tradition are Jesus himself and Paul. And one of the teachings both stressed was a Godlike love of others is second only to love of God.
Those other observances are important, but not nearly as essential to becoming what we should be. However, it is easier to understand clear rules of conduct than more vague ideas like loving others and becoming something better.
They're both religious? I've been binging their video's from Twilight to Moana and had NO CLUE, wow.
@@TheFranchiseCA I'm unsure of how this comment relates to the OP. They clearly weren't looking for a religious discussion.
The Thing is based on the short novel Who goes there? by John W. Campbell. It doesn't necessarily represent the struggle with the AIDS epidemic; it was published in 1938 (in Astounding Stories). Some themes of the story may be lifted from Lovecrafts At the Mountains of Madness; AtMoM was published in 1936 (in Astounding Stories).
@@vexaris1890 the movie was probably made with the feelings and impact of the aids epidemic in mind, it was probably a source of some inspiration in direction or some aspect of it
Nice to see so many people "rediscovering" my favorite scifi film and the ONLY horror film I find worth my time. I would have liked to have heard more about the psychological aspects of this film since you had an expert there, but otherwise I did like your comment on how the world reacted to the pandemic (something I've been marginally successful in expressing to people in my own social circle) and I'm glad I'm not alone in this.
There's a reason why that dog always had an air of danger about him and never felt "right".
That dog was a highly intelligent and highly dangerous half Malamute/half wolf hybrid named Jeb that required two handlers when it was on set. The set was required to be on lockdown whenever Jeb was there to keep the dog from being spooked, and the actor that played Clark had to train with Jeb from a couple months just so he could learn the dog "cues" and walk beside him without turning on him.
Even so, that scene where he appeared out of a dark doorway, crept down the hall, listened at one door, paused at the next door then entered... was the creepiest thing I've ever seen on film.... and was done in that one single take.And with that, all I have left to is is:
Dun, dun... dun, dun... dun, dun... dun, dun...
Dun, dun, tip, tip... tip... tip... dun, dun, tip... tip...
Love it! Alan may have known the dog trivia, but I (Jonathan) did not. Your comment about hitting the psychological aspects of the film makes me want to make another pass at it someday from that lens. Perhaps we will...
Why is The Thing the only horror movie worth your time? I'm not trying to argue, it's just there is a vast array of horror movies that I'm curious. Do you just not like it as a genre?
@@DestinyKiller Obviously I can't speak for the person your actually talking to, but a relatively common thing for horror fans is to be disappointed because many horror films focus on gore and after watching a lot of it, you become desensitized. I have not watched this and honestly probably never will because I am a massive chicken, but it does lean into the darker aspects of the mind (paranoia) and human emotion, which can be far more fear-inducing.
@@bananacat4339 Agreed. I couldn't stand horror movies for the longest time because it seemed the only sort available were of the splatter and slasher type. I want to be scared! Not sent to the bathroom to vomit. Wasn't until I found some psychological horror from Japan that I realized that, yes, it *is* possible for film-makers to create a horrifying story that doesn't rely on nausea.
So... the reason the dog was perceived as being so dangerous was because he behaved like a human?
The whole dog pen scene was the first one ever that actually turned my gut. I was eating breakfast the first time I saw it and literally set it aside. I'm a woman who enjoys food, so me doing that says a lot.
I scared the shit outta myself the first time with this scene/movie. I was 12-13 or so but raised on horror movies. My parents and brother were out but I found this and it sounded good. Human Body horror tends to be my kryptonite, I would later learn. I had to pause the movie at that point with the sled dogs. Went out to our dark garage except for a little light from the door’s window leading in. Grabbed a water and was going to restart the laundry while debating if I should finish the movie. I felt something wet drag up the back of my thigh, I slowly turned and in terrible lighting was our German Shepherd who I had no idea was in there. I fucking screamed my head off, our poor boy. (For context, he actually had a terrible habit of nosing the back of legs/knees when someone did laundry like hey, pay attention to me. Little did he know I’d kill his hearing that night.) 😂
I can handle all the gore that happens to the humans, but the dog pen sequence still bothers me decades later.
I said the same thing about the dog. That ddog was a great actor. The way he slowly creeps down the hallway, just looking in the rooms. Creepy.
The SFX still hold up to today, that's the beauty of practical SFX.
Agree, which is why the Alien and Predator franchises had aged well.
I love John Carpenter's The Thing! A true classic despite the initial negative reception upon its release.
Jonathan here. Alan's loved it for years, and this was my first viewing, but I loved it and I'm not even generally into gore. The practical effects are astounding and the sense of dread is palpable. Masterpiece.
Why did it get a negative reception on it's release?
@@mediatorraptor3349 My personal feeling as to why this movie didn't do so great in the box office is that it did so well at conveying that sense of dread and isolation that compounded with the practical effects, it was too much for people back then. Even The Exorcist had a happy Regan not remember the horrors at the end. Not in this movie. There was no release of pressure, heavy doom til the end.
@@mediatorraptor3349 it came out during ET The Extra-Terrestrial's historic run to become of one of the highest grossing movies of all time not just the 80s. Blade Runner also had to deal with ET as well & it was also a box office bomb.
@@mediatorraptor3349 it had really step competition. And honestly, it wasn't exactly a feel good movie. People were not seeing it over and over which is what made a hit back then. Even people I know who count as their favorite movie say seeing it once on the big screen was enough.
For '82 that shot of the dog's head splitting open is damn impressive.
Right?
About that disagreeing with people thing you mention.
There's sometimes an obvious difference between petty differences that shouldn't ruin relationships. Such as a favourite character of a show you both like.
But then there's the difference of morality that clearly has a right and wrong side. Such as believing an entire race is inferior or not ALLOWED to live.
It's about how the difference of opinions cause harm to people. If it's harmless then just let them live their lives.
But not standing up to those who have no one's interests in mind but their own, and whose actions hurt people, is definitely not a "petty disagreement" that "could've been avoided" and "both parties are in the wrong" in my eyes.
He did say that some people are too far gone in their ideological extremes, which sounds like what you're describing. Where "cancel cultural" fails is that it too is an extreme ideology, one that forces differing views into "good" or "bad," "right" or "wrong," and not accounting for middle ground where middle ground can and does legitimately exist. Extreme views, be they hateful or a sense of absolute moral superiority or rigid adherence to law and order, don't help fix society's problems. They feed an "us versus them" adversarial mentality, instead of a compassionate "we're all in this together, let's fix it" approach.
If someone is too far gone then you should not stand for such behaviour, but don't yourself get all high and mighty with your own sense of righteousness, because you risk becoming the very thing you're fighting against: extremism.
Just my thought, hope it helps.
It's basically what they said about the Thing representing "toxic mentality".
In that analogy;
Sometimes the Thing is playing a harmless person. And you would think 'attacking' it would be seen as 'extreme'.
But it's not something you can 'find a middle ground' with. You wouldn't try to reason with the mashed flesh mass.
I just don't like when 'find a middle ground' is ALWAYS seen as the thing that 'good' people do.
Cuz sometimes people are 'Thing's (in this analogy, being the 'too far gone' they mentioned), but play a very convincing decent human.
It seems 'extreme' cuz others don't see the Thing like you do.
But hey that cud just be my pessimism talking. I'd definitely love nothing more than that. But it's just not always a choice, or it's just best to not get your hopes up.
But don't worry, i just find the "we're all in this together, let's fix it" to be very.... idk? just unrealistic in my mind.
(also sorry for my essay of a reply 😅)
Among us was inspired by the thing
Edit: auto correct sucks
Or Alien
and it's the curse of why the newer generations of kids and young folk are unable to spell things all that well when they are without a phone.
@@kinagrill that’s very weird of you to say because everyone makes spelling mistakes 🤨
@@nanaadusei6604 Yeah but it's massively increased since autospelling smartphones.
@@kinagrill i promise its not that deep man, just cause one person's finger slipped on a keyboard doesn't mean all those dang millennials are reverting back to their illiterate state because ooga booga phone bad. this is a movie about aliens fuckin around can we please just get over the self righteousness for 3 minutes
Suggestions for future films - The Joker (mental illness and how it is affected by classist struggles) / Twelve Angry Men (mediating, negotiating, communication, bias) / Split (trauma, DID, survival instinct) / Three Billboards in Ebbing Missouri (bias, responses to grief, morality, the choices we make) / Welcome to Marwen (PTSD, addiction, recovery, support systems, outlets) / Antichrist (LVT) (grief, sexism, trauma, the ugly, violent side of psychology) / The Big Sick (cultural distinctions or conflicts, relationships, therapy, communication) / Disaster Artist (boundaries, friendships, aspirations, gaslighting) / Jojo Rabbit (children's responses to propaganda and disaster, empathy, imagination, reality, community, overcoming differences) / Hunt for the Wilderpeople (abandonment, grief, ideas of family, responsibility)
That music aged well because Carpenter is not just an awesome director, he is also an awesome composer. He made the scores of almost all of his movies.
I just found this channel and I’m obsessed !!! So many possibilities with the movies out there to analyze and I’m so pumped for them all. Keep it up!
Welcome aboard! We're obsessed too! Yay mutual obsession!
My very smart engineer son told me about this channel. He knew i would like it.
Highly recommend Spider-Man into the Spider-Verse.
i love those "psych" inserts, Shawn and Gus are quite the relation themselves 😂
Internet people: The wolf in this movie was actually a very intimidating-
Me: *_P U P P Y_*
Hahaha omg seriously. My brother's been heavily involved with a wolf-dog rescue for nearly 10 years now, so a lot of the things people interpret as "intimidating" or "dangerous" just read as "not a golden retriever" to me. Wolves are naturally shy, conflict-averse creatures that are incredibly smart. The "creeping down the hallway" thing for me was more "lets advance carefully but calmly through new territory", not predatory.
Same 😆
Puppy is puppy!
@@faerystrangeme I love all animals, they're sort of my soft spot😁
"You can feel the calculating in the dog" buwahahhah, as a husky owner, this is the most accurate description of them ever. They are intelligent, self serving jerks LOL. My husband and I LOVE this movie and always refer to our dog as "the thing".
the Thing is still one of my all time favorite films. SOOOOOOO many great effects. The paranoia of the actors and the feeling of closeness of the entire compound with all the hallway being narrow and often have junk in them.
I feel like yt is not monetizing your videos, your videos deserves more views
Thank you! We're starting to pick up steam, so that's fun :)
9:30
Hysterical that the allegory of the Thing extending to our current mistrust even extends as a allegory of months without a haircut and quarantine beards makes us all look like we’re from the 80’s with Kurt Russels “glam rock” hair!
I honestly believe that the reason this movie has aged so well is not only the fantastic acting but the practical effects. They filmmakers worked so hard on getting it right that it holds still holds up today. One of my favorite films of all time. As a teenager, this movie is what got me interested in Lovecraft, not the other way around.
I want to add, I have developed PTSD from the whole event of covid and being locked down, and isolated from my loved ones. I suffer from extreme levels of anxiety, paranoia, and tactile hallucinations. Some days I can't even trust myself, my skin crawls and I completely shut down and forget hours of my day. This pandemic effects everyone differently, but for some people the amount of distrust, and paranoia can be devastating in long term. For the US, the lockdown has never felt like it has ended. It's still here, this nightmare has yet to end, and I don't even know when I can start to heal, if I survive.
I'm sorry to hear that. Mental and emotional health is so important. I would definitely recommend online counseling and communities. Betterhelp is amazing. If you can't invest into that yet I would try finding grounding techniques and going out for a walk in nature as often as you can if you can. Take care of yourself, you're worth it.
It will never end and airborne rabies will be released or sold by the cdc. February 2020 acip meeting "unfinished business".
The most problematic part of erasing history is that we forget the mistakes we, humanity, made in the past, and we are thus bound to repeat them.
Great video! This is a really good take on the Thing. Mistrust and fear of the unknown
Glad you think so! Thanks for joining us.
I’m a SPFX makeup artist and The Thing is one of my all time favorite horror films. The makeup and practical effects in this film are so dope! They don’t make movies like this anymore.
Nihilism is a valid point of view, I think it would be interesting to talk about people that keep pushing on without needing any meaning to life and the grand scheme.
when i think i've seen all your guys' video there is another in recommended. the backlog you have before yall 'blew up' is still amazing and the quality we expect it. appreciate you guys. keep it up. much love.
Another great video! +big credit to that dog actor!
Thanks! And yes, such an eerie pup.
Wonder what the pupper's name is
@@kboombite His name is Jed the dog
He was a wolf-malmute mix
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jed_(wolfdog)
@@WiseSageBum thank you!
Never did I expect a psych reference / clip in really anything especially this it’s such a great and underrated show and deserves more recognition
This has quickly become one of my new favorite channels. And honestly I think a lot of people can benefit from watching your videos and learning the great perspectives you're focusing on. Keep up the great work and may your channel keep growing.
You see, what we're talkin' about here is an organism that imitates other cinema therapists, and it imitates 'em perfectly
I remember seeing this movie when i was 9. One week my dad got a collection of horror films from the 50’s. Spent the week everyday watching one scary movie like “Them”, “The Day of the Tiphads”, “The Fiend without a face” and Howard Hawk’s “The Thing from Another World”. Well that inspired my dad to get John Carpenter’s “The Thing” and we watched it that friday night and I definitely wanna say that movie scarred me. I was so scared i couldn’t sleep with my cats in my bed for a few weeks after out of fear they would turn into monsters. Goods memories 😂. But now being 25 this one of my favorite movies of all time. Everything from the psychological horror. To the who done it type of mystery this film is brilliant. One thing that still gets me is how smart it is. Normally in most horror films thenplot is driven forward by characters doing really stupid stuff. Everyone even down to the least important side characters act realistically and for the most part (remember they are all sleep deprived) completely within reason.
Btw watch the documentary on the film its mindblowing
One of my favorite writers, Eliazer Yudkowsky, had one of his characters reflect that most people just reflect the culture they came from and "no one told them they should be more humane than everyone they've ever seen"
I honestly found myself asking, where's the guy who try to comunicate with the alien to find any common ground before he gets killed.
but I also Love this movie in it's original state.
I know so many people that need this channel in their lives 💛
I always felt so bad for the Clark having to put down his dogs
People get confused once i proclaim: "That dog is no dog. That dog is a banana!"
But once it peels like one, they get it! ^__^
I'd be curious to see your take on Frozen 2, how Anna faces her own anxiety and depression and the effects it's having on the other people in her life? I know you guys spoke about Kristoff, but I feel like there's so much to unpack in terms of Anna's and Elsa's characters! Just a thought, it's one of my favourite movies :)
great video guys! The Thing is one of my favourites ... fantastic insights ... again ... many, many thanks
Always our pleasure! Thanks Mark!
A really good horror film for Cinema therapy would be Hereditary by Ari Aster. On the surface it's a supernatural story, but the real horror is how the family can't communicate and can't process grief. If they could, they could easily come together to address the supernatural element that threatens them. I think it would be a great fit for your channel.
I just realized Among us is literally a game version of The Thing!
Yup! Game Theory actually talked about this.
A month on now, but the menu theme of among us has a very similar iconic "dun dun" in it to the begining of this film too
The only comment mentioning Among Us. Im really surprised ngl
[4:00] "I'm not a gore guy... but I lapped that up" Interesting choice of words :P
Loving this channel so far.
I’d really love it if they did hereditary that was a rollercoaster
I discovered you at 11;45 pm, it 3:27 am. God help me, but I'm watching one more. This is the first time I subbed AND hit the bell.
Disagreement as an immoral stance is definitely context sensitive and its so frustrating that sense of context is eroding away. I try to save that for real people who want my and others human rights or even our ability to survive taken away for their percieved benefit (in a John Mulaney voice, "and now there's *bleeps* again!"), but it can be difficult because being right is kinda addictive, so I'm trying to get addicted to being wrong so I can keep on learning. The moment I start to feel unsafe disagreeing with someone is also something I'm making an effort to identify, because those tend to become unsafe relationships for me wherein I'm not allowed to have boundaries or be my own person. And I just don't have the capacity to teach people right now that just because I disagree with their reading of the motivations of this TV show character doesn't mean I value them less or think they're stupid, and that I'm a person who's allowed to have my own thoughts. :/ The whole pandemic thing has fully eroded my stamina for reminding people I'm a person whose life still matters even if I'm immunocompromised and they're not, so if you can safely wear a mask then please do. Have heard and read people say I should just die already so they can go on vacation way too many times. That's one way I'm fine with tribalism, in a sense. Like why wouldn't I want to be around people who don't devalue my life and health for their convenience or pleasure LOL Read, not their HEALTH, but *convenience*. I don't think it's wrong to stop socializing with people who refuse to do such. Again, it's context.
8:33 I'm kinda late but I really needed that. I think I was that friend and I did apologize to my group but not personally to the one I disagreed with the most. I didn't explicitly say I think their views are awful and that THEY'RE awful for having them, but my tone definitely was annoyed, angry, and probably disappointed when trying to address them after they stated it. Guess I'll talk to them personally about it again despite how friggin uncomfortable it was. aaaaaaaaah
For nihil- prefixed words, my brain automatically defaults to "nigh" for the first phoneme, a la "Nihilism" by Rancid.
I can't wait to show my girlfriend this movie. >:D
Primarily because she really likes Among Us.
It was really cool to watch this! The Thing is my favorite horror movie from the 80's horror era by far. I think it would be very cool to see you two bring on a commentator to discuss the emotional impact of systemic racism on a person. It would be good to get the perspective of someone who experiences trauma related to race (similarly, a person of color who is also queer would be a great person to talk to since they face discrimination from race and gender/sexual idenities.) For example, it would be AWESOME to see the three of you discuss Get Out by Jordan Peele!
I was very ready to hear their thoughts on paranoia and how it affects people, but I feel like they didn't do a good enough job explaining it. Sure there's the lockdown making people worried about getting sick from others, but that's a stretch to call it paranoia especially since it's a rational fear. It'd be more like how everyone panic shopped for supplies during the lockdown; or going as far back as 1999 when everyone thought the world would end, is a way better example. There was so much potential, yet they were side-tracked and started talking about trusting others, banning together, etc.
I agree. This wasn't about paranoia (suspicion and mistrust of people or their actions without evidence or justification) as much as it was about dealing with chronic, legitimate fear.
Yeah, I find paranoia interesting.
The use of a Psych "I heard it both ways" earned this a very early thumbs up!
The crew members were also pushed into paranoia with a little help from the Thing itself. Upon examination of the events: 1) Blair may have already been a thing before his using the computer to determine infection rate. He needed to be considered dangerous to be isolated to construct the ship. 2) Palmer who we later found out was a Thing, was probably antagonizing Windows to cause more chaos. 3) The Thing, at the point where MacCready makes the "I know im human..." speech, realizes MacCready is a threat, that's when pieces of his clothes start turning up, implicating him. At the start of the film, the computer chess game is the metaphor for the entire film. A chess game between a military pilot and an extraterrestrial organism, The Thing.
You guys have switched places and I don't know how to feel about it
Chaos. Pure chaos in my mind
First of all, this is an amazing series, congratulations! The next movie you guys should react to is "The shining" or "The big Lebowski".
I often tell people "We'll just have to agree to disagree" and usually that ends the argument/discussion. If it doesn't, that person and i usually never talk again.
I grew up watching horror films and my only reaction was gaining a love for myth and monsters. By the time I was six I could quote most of the Alien films. I didn't see The Thing until I was fourteen, and it scared the absolute shit outta me.
This is my FAVORITE movie. John Carpenter, Kurt Russell, and practical effects. Our mutual love of this movie (and Friday the 13th) is what brought me and my husband together.
Also, "not to get political" is rather impossible for a lot of people. The more marginalized a particular population is, the more their rights and existence is deemed to simply be "politics". LGBTQ rights, civil rights, womens rights... these are all "political."
The Thing is a really good example of that, because the Thing in the movie isn't just a difference of opinions, it's literally an existential threat.
Exactly. I can't compromise on white supremacists and xenophobic ideals in ACTION because of leaders perpetuating those ideologies.
Everything is politics, but people don't get that. If you value something in your life (a roof over your head, health care, garbage pickup, anything) it's because of policy. Those are taken for granted, though. Whereas, as you said, marginalized folks don't have a lot to take for granted without being villified, oppressed, murdered, etc . "Don't get political" is such a priveliged position
I'm very glad you mentioned that! While I did enjoy this video, I felt like that was a very large oversight.
There are some of us whose very humanity had to be legislated so anytime we speak of our needs its viewed as 'political'. Only those who have never had to have a law allowing them to exist have the luxury of being non-political.
I love the content you guys make and this is my comfort channel, it always makes me feel happy when I'm down. thanks guys.
While I agree with you on not hating someone for having a difference of politics and/or opinions/beliefs, I, personally, feel that, especially during the last 4 years, I'm flat out exhausted from trying to explain to people that I deserve basic human rights that some people in power and their supporters are okay with taking away from people. I feel that while not everyone who supports/goes along with certain people in power are racist/homophobic/etc, they're okay with people who are racist/homophobic/etc and that being those things isn't a dealbreaker. Those people aren't actually oppressing people, but they're okay with people who are the oppressors, and to me, that isn't something, I feel, we can "agree to disagree" over. I tend to go by the tolerance paradox philosophy. In order to remain a tolerant society, we can not tolerate intolerance, otherwise, tolerance will die. I absolutely LOVE this channel and have been binging it since I first discovered it a couple days ago. You two are amazing, and I love the thoughts and reactions from both of you. Keep up the amazing work. ♥
Completely agree. Like, if the simple act of me (a trans man) asking to be called by my name is deemed political by someone then I'm just not going to talk to them. Like, it's the bare minimum but it's apparently too much to ask. I don't like being seen as a second class citizen and I also don't like it when being legally lesser isn't seen as a big deal to a lot of people.
Agreed... racism has real life consequences for people's lives, and I'm sorry if that was your upbringing and that someone may need to "educate" you, but the people who are hurt by it are tired of teaching people what dehumanization and oppression is. People are loosing their lives over this mess. And people are tired. I am not obligated to "agree to disagree" with people who believe that I don't have the right to exist. Even if they are a "product of their time." People like me existed during "that time" too, and while it may have been the standard for them, it was not the standard for people who looked like me living then. Those thoughts had consequences then too!
I love ya'll. I just hate the minimizing of some of this.
So I have to go against all of my values just because a person I’m associated the political party with is a bigot? This is why this needs to be said, because treating one side as morally correct completely invalidates the ability to help balance everything out. I mean what about stuff on your side is contributing to the exploitation of human rights? This is the problem with the way you word things: you make the other side the bad guy, which makes all their other arguments invalid in the minds of people. I’m exhausted to have to feel guilty to vote and do my civic duty because apparently only your dealbreakers matter.
@@thomasffrench3639 So you're okay with racist/homophobic/transphobic/etc people/policies/laws? Then yeah, you're a horrible person and a bigot for being okay with that stuff. There actually is a right and wrong when it comes to basic human rights, and you being okay with those things is wrong. Period.
@@VampyreVladimira I’m not okay with anything wrong, which is why I don’t vote
Hi Jonathan and Alan, I have only just discovered Cinema Therapy, and I already love it. Keep it coming, guys! Also the episode made me think of something to do with movies, but more on perhaps a meta level: this feeling of togetherness you get from watching a movie together with a group of people. I think we underestimate the influence of this in the cinema experience , it's not just the big screen, great sound and the general idea of a night out. It's watching it together with all these people, these shared experiences. I realised this as well last year when I saw Die Hard for the first time in my life (really?! yes, really...) I didn't even know why it was a thing to watch it at Christmas.... I found out I loved Die Hard! But I refrained from watching all of them at once, because I wanted to have that shared experience at Christmas again. Sitting home alone (another good option!) watching Die Hard, knowing so many other people are doing the same thing makes me feel so connected. I hope others feel that too.
Paranoia is really only a bad thing on those rare occasions when they aren't out to get you.
Paranoia is a mental illness symptom, because most people aren't out to get you. Humans aren't predators. They mostly act on self-interest, like shopping, work, sex and substance abuse. And there are even limits and exceptions to that last one, like abusive relationships, military service, suicide, self-harm, eating disorders, religion, conservatism, rigid gender roles, which are all uncomfortable and dangerous behaviors.
@@darlalathan6143 but humans are predators, notice how our eye sockets are front facing in our skulls? prey animals like squirrels have the eyes on the side of their heads, which gives them a wider cone of vision, because it makes it harder for predators to sneak up on them unseen.
@@hughjanos3992 Despite our eye placement, which as primates are also good for brachiation (branch-swinging in trees) and gathering, humans started as prey animals and gatherers, until early humans discovered fire-building and invented flint spears, tomahawks, atlatls, archery, tamed horses, and dogs, becoming Earth's greatest predators.
As a horror/thriller fanatic, The Thing has a special place in my heart ❤ I love that you did this episode
My challenge:
Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer. (Very good movie, probably a one time view, though)
Psychologically interesting bit of trivia: the Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station shows The Thing after the last plane leaves and they're isolated from February to October.
Best Horror/Thriller ever the feeling of isolation and paranoia this movie
These guys are so calm and positive.
I'm wondering, they talk about all this divide and racism and the paranoia people feel, but I wished they addressed the hate crimes that Asian people in the West have had to face because of this virus. It's a really serious issue, and even those channel that are usually very active in the whole activism thing don't talk about it. And honestly, that's kinda sad
Our husky is part wolf and he's the sassiest, biggest fluff you'll ever meet. He's never growled at a thing and thinks everything is a potential friend or snack. It takes quite a bit of training for a dog to react that way without it being a fear based reaction to stimuli outside of the trainer's control, especially for huskies who are inherently friendly by nature. Our German shepherd on the other hand barks at the wind and is a bit more reactive but we haven't been able to train her to bark on command, unlike our husky who will. So this speaks to all three: the dog, the trainer, and the editing. It's amazing. As someone who enjoys the occasional horror film (in moderation, otherwise I won't sleep) this was a fun deviation genre-wise. Thanks guys!
"Our country is tearing ourself apart" you have no idea.
the dog was Jed the wolfdog, half malamute hals wolf who also starred in White fang and the journey of Nattie Gann
I first saw this movie when I was seven years old. With my parents.
My dad thought it was funny to tell me it was based on a true story.
Despite being utterly traumatized and not sleeping properly for weeks, I do remember finding the upside down head walking funny, even as a little girl.
Still, it was quite formative, so now I've also got an appreciation for artistically arranged gore, monstrosities, tragedies, etc.
Lmfaoo, your dad is a legend for that
Ive been binge watching you guys ever since I found the channel by chance. You guys do a great job!
The Thing - a true christmas movie. Or at least a winter movie. :p
Isn't Christmas in Summer in that hemisphere?
@@RRW359 yep. though I'm pretty sure you won't get much of a summer in Antarctica.
Tbh I have a feeling that the dog was most likely just cgi and if it’s not, then that was the best dog actor I have ever seen.
Fur textures were not possible to recreate in CGI back in those days. That is a legit dog actor followed by a dog puppet/ prop when it breaks in half.