@@Carli_is_Reading oh and also, since you liked the first book of agggtm I do recommend the others. I've read the whole series and they are really good and different, all of them. The third is the darkest but I really liked the second book !
@@Carli_is_Reading it's drives me crazy when I read a book and pronounce a name one way and then I hear the author say it a different way. It changes everything somehow. Yeah that sounds ridiculous but it does for me.
Wildfire also made me uncomfortable. I don't want to read about people having sex when there are children in the vicinity😖. I've also been pronouncing Babel like you and thought I was the only one haha
Babel is a biblical reference to the Tower of Babel pronounced bay-bil. Babble or babbler have two bs. The singular b means there isn’t a b in the first syllable. So yeah it’s the other pronunciation lol.
This is only half true. While you're correct, that this is biblical and it is to do with the Tower of Bable. Babel is another name of the city of Babylon. Merriam-Webster gives both pronunciations (Bay-bil and Bah-bil), but the former is listed first so that suggests it's the more common one. However, If you put the word google translator and look for the Hebrew pronunciation it is actually given as something like "bah-ville" (and in German, my mothertongue it's actually also pronounced (bah-bell)) which, on top of the fact that afaik "Babylon" is pronounced more like "baptize" than "baby", to me all suggest that "bay-bil" is simply the Americanized pronunciation and "bah-bil" is more accurate to Hebrew, albeit less common in American English pronunciation. Maybe it's even the more common one in British English but I would have to check that
@@TheTopazGrove in English the “Rabbit Rule” exists for double medial consonants. If there is one consonant in the middle, the first vowel is extended. If there are two consonants, the first vowel is shortened. Cave vs cattle. Shatter vs shave. Rabbit vs rabies or rave. Kitten vs kite. Babble vs Babel. Thank you for the addition to my original comment! Tower of Babel was supposedly in the centre of Babylon yes which could definitely factor into the constant back and forth over the pronunciation of the word lol. And the way she has pronounced it I have only heard from Americans and is the “American pronunciation” in dictionaries, but I am a bit of a stickler for UK grammar rules as a qualified English teacher.
@@TheTopazGrove and I speak Afrikaans as well which we also pronounce it similarly to German in Afrikaans, but again that suits our respective languages and the grammar rules as well.
@@TheTopazGrove additionally “Babylon” also makes sense with pronunciation as it has three syllables, so the pronunciation changes. Babe is different to Babylon, like cave is different to cavernous and rave to ravenous.
@@BinxThinx I think you're not taking into account, that it is a Hebrew name, though. It's loaned and thus English conventions don't necessarily have to apply. (But can absolutely be applied anyway for better integration into the language). I dont doubt that your understanding of English pronunciation conventions is solid and fact based but from a philological/linguistic approach which is my field of study stickling for the rules is often times considered as reductive. Language is malleable and in flux constantly. There's no "more correct" way of pronouncing it and my argument from the start was that, given the etymological context it's absolutely valid to pronounce it closer to the Hebrew way especially since it is a approximation of a Hebrew name to begin with. I'm really not trying to say that pronouncing it "bay-bil" is incorrect, because as you said, it is definitely the correct way as far as english language conventions are concerned. However, that doesn't make it the only correct way nor the "most" correct way. It just makes it one viable and well founded option.
Super cute setup! Loving these videos 😊
Ahhh thank you so much!!
This is so beautiful ! 🥰🤩
Ahhh thank you so much!!!
@@Carli_is_Reading oh and also, since you liked the first book of agggtm I do recommend the others. I've read the whole series and they are really good and different, all of them. The third is the darkest but I really liked the second book !
Ooooh good to know, thank you!! I hadn’t heard too much about them, so I’m happy to hear them recommended!
Always love your setups :) I'm glad you posted a new video.
Aww thank you so much!!
I just added The Tea Dragon Society to my TBR because of you. 🍵
Ohhh yes!! Great choice😍 I hope you love it!
Babe-l just checked audible on how the story is introduced.
👀 oh no. Which one?
@@Carli_is_Reading babe-l not babble
@@miss_mish noooooo my world is upside down 😭😭
@@Carli_is_Reading it's drives me crazy when I read a book and pronounce a name one way and then I hear the author say it a different way. It changes everything somehow. Yeah that sounds ridiculous but it does for me.
@@miss_mish not ridiculous at all!! I feel the same!
Wildfire also made me uncomfortable. I don't want to read about people having sex when there are children in the vicinity😖. I've also been pronouncing Babel like you and thought I was the only one haha
LOL yeeeeesss we are the same👏🏼
Babel is a biblical reference to the Tower of Babel pronounced bay-bil. Babble or babbler have two bs. The singular b means there isn’t a b in the first syllable. So yeah it’s the other pronunciation lol.
This is only half true. While you're correct, that this is biblical and it is to do with the Tower of Bable. Babel is another name of the city of Babylon. Merriam-Webster gives both pronunciations (Bay-bil and Bah-bil), but the former is listed first so that suggests it's the more common one. However, If you put the word google translator and look for the Hebrew pronunciation it is actually given as something like "bah-ville" (and in German, my mothertongue it's actually also pronounced (bah-bell)) which, on top of the fact that afaik "Babylon" is pronounced more like "baptize" than "baby", to me all suggest that "bay-bil" is simply the Americanized pronunciation and "bah-bil" is more accurate to Hebrew, albeit less common in American English pronunciation. Maybe it's even the more common one in British English but I would have to check that
@@TheTopazGrove in English the “Rabbit Rule” exists for double medial consonants. If there is one consonant in the middle, the first vowel is extended. If there are two consonants, the first vowel is shortened. Cave vs cattle. Shatter vs shave. Rabbit vs rabies or rave. Kitten vs kite. Babble vs Babel. Thank you for the addition to my original comment! Tower of Babel was supposedly in the centre of Babylon yes which could definitely factor into the constant back and forth over the pronunciation of the word lol. And the way she has pronounced it I have only heard from Americans and is the “American pronunciation” in dictionaries, but I am a bit of a stickler for UK grammar rules as a qualified English teacher.
@@TheTopazGrove and I speak Afrikaans as well which we also pronounce it similarly to German in Afrikaans, but again that suits our respective languages and the grammar rules as well.
@@TheTopazGrove additionally “Babylon” also makes sense with pronunciation as it has three syllables, so the pronunciation changes. Babe is different to Babylon, like cave is different to cavernous and rave to ravenous.
@@BinxThinx I think you're not taking into account, that it is a Hebrew name, though. It's loaned and thus English conventions don't necessarily have to apply. (But can absolutely be applied anyway for better integration into the language). I dont doubt that your understanding of English pronunciation conventions is solid and fact based but from a philological/linguistic approach which is my field of study stickling for the rules is often times considered as reductive. Language is malleable and in flux constantly. There's no "more correct" way of pronouncing it and my argument from the start was that, given the etymological context it's absolutely valid to pronounce it closer to the Hebrew way especially since it is a approximation of a Hebrew name to begin with. I'm really not trying to say that pronouncing it "bay-bil" is incorrect, because as you said, it is definitely the correct way as far as english language conventions are concerned. However, that doesn't make it the only correct way nor the "most" correct way. It just makes it one viable and well founded option.