@@user-yh9gh4lq6u What do you mean? Who's making it questionable? Privacy is important. One man was arrested and had his Google account terminated just because took a picture of his son's genitals just so he could send it to his doctor.
@@Diogo85 I think you've flipped the metaphor the original comment was trying to make. It's like saying; you're the one who choose to prioritize privacy, and you know your actions aren't questionable so you have the right to be private. You might NEED privacy because other people have mal-intententions with your data, and thus might interpret it as questionable (which is consistent with your example: getting a google account terminated for doing no wrong in saving a picture of a son's genitals for medical purposes). You wouldn't want to be that guy who gets his google account terminated, and you know there are separate parties (in this case, Google) who can do that even if your actions (possessing that photo) wasn't meant with harm. The separate party here is who's questionable, not you. That's what I think they meant.
It's crazy how "they're just trying to make money" is considered a proper justification for anything corporations do. I also don't see how "spying on kids" is any less creepy than spying on people.
There was a time when websites were about information, and there was no concept of "user data" at all. You visited a site, made use of the information you needed from it, and moved on with your life. Companies figuring out they could monetize user data was a dark event in tech history.
Technology aside, privacy is an important social necessity. My nephew likes to tell everything to everybody. He does this in part because he's young and still hasn't figured out what is or is not okay socially. If he continues to do this when he gets older I will say, "I'm happy that you are carefree about your privacy. I'm disappointed, though, that I can't share everything with you." Someone who doesn't value their privacy because "they have nothing to hide" may inadvertently share information about others with the wrong audience, and not because they are ill intentioned; only because they failed to practice discretion. People should be educated that privacy is not a selfish thing; it protects others.
Exactly. This is a maturity issue and a knowledge gap in the policymaking side , perhaps special interests. Almost guaranteed. These companies have a bit of immunity from too much scrutiny in the US because they are so critical to even strategic priorities. It affects policy at the highest levels when you talk about one of the big tech companies. I would like to believe Congress just doesn't understand the internet. Not 15 years ago we had.. "the internet is not a big truck. It's a series of tubes. And when those tubes get filled, your internet is going to be delayed." Funny stuff but how far have they come in understanding the issue with the data collection and inherent risk. If you weren't aware that was a popular meme on mid 2000s internet.
The problem is that everyone who _does_ care about privacy does come off as a nut. "Don't use anything but Browser-Of-The-Moment! Don't use email! Don't use a search engine! Look over your shoulder every 5 minutes to make sure no one is looking at your screen! The government cares what color your shirt is, don't let them know!!" They always take it way too far.
@@flameshana9 I've rarely seen people saying this considering what you said doesn't make any sense (you can't use a browser without a search engine) but more importantly, they're rarely vocal, as even people who do care about privacy know themselves this kind of paranoia is nonsense and generally are here to respond or simply downvote, at least on the internet. But on the other hand, I'd say that's how people who care about privacy are _perceived_ as you've brilliantly shown it, you being of course one of them, because claiming everybody who cares about privacy is like that is just as absurd as the people you're trying to describe. But to be fair, I myself can easily see why it would be perceived as being crazy or paranoid but in no way I would consider it as being such when you know what you should protect yourself from because the privacy invasion from a lot of companies is really done to this extent. As a quick demonstration, to have a good privacy on the internet, you should: use a browser that respects your privacy, use a search engine that respects your privacy, use an operating system that respects your privacy (little mention for the case of Android: this OS by default with all the Google apps doesn't give you any privacy but as its core is open source, the best thing to do is to install custom ROM like GrapheneOS or LineageOS that are based on this open source core), use a mail service that respects your privacy, create several email accounts if needed, have an account to create aliases for your email account at will. For good practices: you should never use your main email account and use aliases instead, by compartmentalizing your emails by business, bank accounts, online shopping, personal, acquaintances, family, etc... You should use different browsers (or at least profiles like on Firefox) depending on the level of privacy you're going to let go, as connecting to one of your account with personal data on it could compromise the anonymity of your anonymous accounts to which you connected to on this same browser. You should also use extensions if your browser doesn't block (enough) by default trackers or fingerprinting. And that's not it, I'll just stop here because it would become to long eventually (if it's not already for you). But the thing is, for any privacy concerned and informed person, all of that is basic and if you think it's being paranoid, then @areadenial is right: maybe that says something about yourself. Talk to a cybersecurity expert and you'll see.
Whenever somebody don't care about privacy online and have nothing to hide, the first thing I asked them is what's their social security number. That usually gets them thinking.
Most of the people that "care about privacy" or "care about censorship" somehow end up justifying and recommending the absolutely worst offenders like Yandex and Opera.
They are probably thinking "Well, I don't care about online privacy because I don't post essential information on internet including my SSN. Why did he ask about it?" or something like that. I think it's more like a part of real life privacy which those people WOULD care.
The classic case of “give them an inch and they’ll take a light year” they do not care and they have demonstrated time and time again that if you trust them to use your data appropriately, they will use data that you’ve never intended to ever give them in an inappropriate manner.
The thing that really pisses me off about this is that these companies will harvest all this data without your consent, but then fail to keep it secure, so now all your data is basically out there, on the internet, maybe even the public internet if not the dark web. So there could be photos, videos, audio recordings, etc, of you that you don't even know about on some sweaty weirdo's hard drive because you had the audacity to do laundry in front of your car.
It's out of control. Even healthcare has been dealing with data breaches left and right for years now as everything migrated from physical printed records to digital ones. But these clinics keep making those bland corporate speak statements "we are committed to the privacy of our patients".. If they were, they would not have allowed a remote data center to manage patient information.
@@rixille this is a reason I'm against digitalizing in governments. motherfuckers just can't keep it secure from BASIC FUCKING SOCIAL ENGINEERING, YOU'RE A GODDAMN GOVERNMENT
If you guys don't read the terms of a service that's just your personal problem. Google states that : "Some of our services are designed to let you upload, submit, store, send, receive, or share your content. You have no obligation to provide any content to our services and you’re free to choose the content that you want to provide. If you choose to upload or share content, please make sure you have the necessary rights to do so and that the content is lawful. License Your content may be protected by intellectual property rights and immaterial rights. For example, you have intellectual property rights in the creative content you make, such as reviews you write. Or you may have the right to share someone else’s creative content if they’ve given you their permission. In addition, you have immaterial rights that give you control over things like your image, even if the photo that contains your image doesn’t belong to you. Through this license, you provide Google with permission to use your intellectual property rights in your content (such as copyright and trademark) and any immaterial rights in your content (such as image rights). What’s covered This license covers your content if that content is protected by intellectual property or immaterial rights. What’s not covered This license doesn’t affect your data protection rights - it’s only about your intellectual property and immaterial rights This license doesn’t cover these types of content: publicly-available factual information that you provide, such as corrections to the address of a local business. That information doesn’t require a license because it’s considered common knowledge that everyone’s free to use. feedback that you offer, such as suggestions to improve our services. Feedback is covered in the Service-related communications section below."
@@rixille buddy you do realize it is impossible to stop all data breaches it happens all the time because surprise encryption systems are limited, there is always a vulnerability it is impossible to seal perfectly. I don't care if you're using 256 bit AES which everything uses these days because it is the best but it means jack all because its been around forever, people know how to crack the encryptions easily now, they find vulnerabilities. It's not difficult by any means to get data, happens to apple, google Microsoft, the national defense who all use the same 256 bit AES, the only difference is the military runs a bunch of other shit with it that makes it far more difficult to get into and it changes very frequently along with their specialists working around the clock at all times doing their best. These companies stop hundreds of breaches daily might even be far more than that, possibly in the tens of thousands daily. Ontop of the fact people are just really stupid and give out information that helps bypass security systems and so on.
NPCs supporting this: "Woah bro did you mean you don't want massive corporations to juggle your personal data around so they can profit from it and take advantage of you; while you can't know all personal details of the people collecting this data, what doctor they see, the names and addresses of their family and friends, what car they drive, what groceries they buy and what street address they live at? Wow imagine the entitlement."
@@vigilantclips5912 I remember that one story about girl whose Gmail account was viewed and controlled by some creep from Google. I don't have the link to news about that, but I remember it happened. YAY, "I have nothing to hide!"...
Why point to an employee? They couldn't care less and would be easily used as scapegoats if they overstep. The real risk is in management, CEOs lobbying government officials and the like.
imho the battle for privacy is already lost, everything from discord, to your browsers already have your data. B-b-b-b-but my VPN, yes, it all goes through your ISP first and foremost. All you can do is try and raise your voice so your govt can attempt to block these massive moneymakers, which they just wont. The solution is to never create any account for any reason at all ever, because that info will be collected no matter what. Just don't be online.
You know there was a time in the internet where it was discouraged to keep things like your real name or even age public. Nowadays, you can search someone's name up and find their email, job profile, social media, phone number, etc. It's not that you're being private cause you're hiding something bad, it's that too much information being posted publicly can be used maliciously by people you don't know. Thank you for this video!
You have done a better job than me at explaining internet privacy. Kudos to you! I used to go a bit extreme when it comes to internet privacy, but now I try to balance spying and internet privacy like I still use TH-cam for example. My point of view is: Even if you take three steps further when it comes to mitigating spyware, and you take 1 step back, you still are two steps further than just saying "I have nothing to hide" and going three steps back.
Yes this is exactly the point that I think commenters like that one shown in the beginning of the video fail to understand. Privacy is not a zero sum game. You can aim to have as much or as little as you like, or anything inbetween, and not every step is a sacrifice. As Eric said at the end, many of the replacements are just straight up superior to the big tech alternatives.
You don't need AI for that. If you posted the comments publicly, you can simply search them for keywords. This kind of stuff really only matters if you're running for something and your opponents are digging up dirt. In general still a good idea to keep your shit talking separate from your real identity, but that's not the most important part of opsec.
Not to mention all the scammers who will be contacting you after since a lot of companies sell data, and those who claim does not sell it on black market by their employees.
2:38 That first example there reminds me of something a friend said to convince me that I should care about privacy... "You don't get to decide what other people decide is right or wrong." Everyone who "Does nothing wrong" has someone who disagrees with them.
I’ve tried to explain why I care about internet privacy to family members but could never bring up many practical real world examples for why they should care. I love this video and have sent it away thank you so much!
The problem is, their products are too comfortable for them. Like whenever I bring linux to the table, because the family PC is bloated they say "but there is no antivirus right ? how am I supposed to use that ?" "open source, woah that seems so insecure to use" It was the same for bringing Signal, plus now it can't be used for mms/sms. Windows & cie are so present in every day life that it is very hard to convey other things :-(
@@wolfwoof2000 Holy moly, they dare to have arguments like antivirus or that opensource is insecure ? You have to teach them their place. They have no idea what they're talking about and they should listen to you. Jeez, my blood just got thicker just from reading that. Threatem them to never help in anything computer related "if they know so well what's good and bad"
@@Winnetou17 Yeah 😆 Idk for me it makes sense but antivirus ads are everywhere, woo spooky stranger can hack me. I bring them open source which is just way more secure since everyone can contribute for OS safety, it's for our own good but they are so stubborn. I don't trust closed source software now it's not secure to me lol Ublock origin is the only "antivirus" anyone needs. One day I will convey them that my Linux never broke after 4 years and I watch they w10 going downhill after each update
@@wolfwoof2000 When antivirus comes up, bring up firewalls and ClamAV+ClamTK, and say that most viruses are made for Windows, hence it requires so much protection from antiviruses. And tell them that being open source just means that programs can't hide what they are doing on your computer from you, and that it's harder to sneak malicious stuff in it since it's open. If they say that the hackers are given access to the code, reply that hackers will try to hack no matter what and the real difference is that the entire world can work on open programs' security but only one company can work on a proprietary program's security. Also the Linux desktop is unlikely to be targeted by hackers since most people use Windows. You could also say that companies prioritize money, and that communities prioritize the users since they themselves are users. Of course, this only applies if they actually listen. Your plan with Win10 sounds good. What distro do you have for them in mind? What DE?
Just show them the data breaches that happen in healthcare. Medical clinics entrusting digital patient information to third party data centers which then get breached and all that patient information released to the dark web. "We are committed to the privacy of our patients" no they are not.
crazy how the abstract nature of digital data completely eludes people. Here is a good counter point. "Do you rip up your mail before throwing it in the trash? Why not just pin your old mail to a tree outside your house?"
@@fernandoblazin How is it not possible to have privacy using electronic connected devices? I'd really like to know because I don't see why you'd be right.
I never knew Signal did that kind of campaign. 10/10. I do organic internet marketing for a living and think that this kind of excessive data collection is just... Dumb? Remember back in the day when users could select their interests and thats what ads they'd get shown? That's the only acceptable data to collect. Anything more than what the user knowingly gives you is just asking for the system to be abused.
My father uses Google drive to store documents like national identity, driving license, etc. Because he gets 'free' storage and can be viewed on both phone and pc. And it's very hard to convince him to switch to something else. Only a BIG blow to people, like data leaks, convince them that these corporations can't be trusted.
Can't deny the convenience that Google Drive has, and the relatively generous free 15gb. The other options (Dropbox, OneDrive) arn't better. I started a Nextcloud for myself and some family members, but I can't imagine that would be dooable for someone who's never hosted and managed software.
thing is you cannot stop all data breaches its impossible it doesn't matter what you do happens to the national defense all the time..banks, companeis etc its near impossible to stop... these companies spend a ridiculous amount of money on systems and specialists always trying their best to protect information, it don't matter they stop hundreds to tens of thousands daily alone its insane. It's explicitly why you should be careful about what information you bother keeping anyways..
That first example of the dad sending medical photos of his toddler to a doctor is actually what made me change my mind awhile back. Before that I still thought privacy as a right was important, but reading that article made it click that actually, yea, this does concern me. Here's another good reason to care about privacy, even if it doesn't apply to everyone: Sometimes people do have something to hide. Not because they're doing something bad, but because the law is simply not a measure of morality. And so, for some people who live in countries that are actively trying to harm them for who they are what they do, privacy is indeed an absolute necessity. Anyways, this is a great video, thanks for making it.
But that's the thing. Alot of sick people do illegal things in private. So many creeps are in jail now because their privacy was compromised and things were exposed.
It’s simple as this: No company is perfect, so eventually there will be hacking attempts that leak people’s information to dangerous hackers. Nobody wants this to happen, so this reason alone is enough for privacy to be important.
@@olivercharles2930 They can very easily frame you for crimes, steal your entire identity and do things in your name with your social, they can stalk and watch you at all times and your family kids etc. If you didn't care you post up your social and credit cards bank info etc online
@@olivercharles2930steal all your personal information. Leak all your personal information to a public forum. Leak all your pictures. Every text and comment you've sent. Your family members. Your home address and your family members' home addresses. Everything about your family and all of their information You might think this amount of information leakage is ludicrous, but these companies all around the world scrape so much information that it's even beyond the scope of this. This is why online privacy is so important
Politicians: allows everyone's addresses to be published on the internet. Also Politicians: How do the young people keep swatting me?!?! Seriously though, this is a problem that needs to be stopped.
Great to see some good examples of this. This far every time soneone spoke or write about privacy, the worst thing they brought up was "they can show you ads, they think would interest you...".
When asked in school back in 2017ish, when asked what are my Hobbies and Interests and being pressed by the Admins and Guest Speaker, In front of everyone I said, Privacy, Discretion, and Confidentiality. They left me alone after that.
probably the best video i have found in argument for privacy / privacy browsers because it does actually show many different real life scenarios that have happened recently which more people will understand better than other ways (like the quote you said)
I want to thank you for actually going over real-world situations and calling out the people who just go "Oh, you don't care about privacy? Well, you must not mind a stranger rifling through your wallet and watching you go to the bathroom then", which is legitimately an argument I've heard on more than a single occasion. I've never really cared about privacy all that much, and whenever I'd ask why people care, people would just get immediately hostile and call me a corporate shill for simply asking a question.
It’s just aggravating how it’s not viewed as important by the masses, when it is. It’s just like how government officials do a whole list of illegal things that affect the occupants of their state but it isn’t seen as bad as say, murderer. When if you think about it, it is actually much worse and hurts way more people 🤷♂️ It just does it indirectly.
Theres more of you than there is of us, so you will inevitably vote to screw us over because you have nothing to hide... its a tale as old as civilization and why fascism has such a foothold in humanities past, present and future.
I know a guy who thought this, someone breached his yahoo mail tied to his business, and he said he didn’t have anything to hide. He then proceeded to find out just how bad things can get, multiple accounts then proceeded to be hacked, his Facebook was used for illegal purposes and even the police visited him, (they were aware but had to at least get his side). He lost a ton of invoices, had his cards used, and basically went through a ton of stress, time, and money. It’s like leaving your door open and having a new neighbor move in, they walk right in and just stare at you, and you say “I got nothing to hide”, days later your stuff starts disappearing and they are invading your privacy. This mentality is literal complacency, and complacency is dangerous. Not only does it stagnate your own growth and progress, but you then get comfortable with things you shouldn’t be, complacency has killed people, sometimes hundreds. Industrial accidents, USS Scorpion, USS Thresher, USS Iowa turret 2, Titan from OceanGate, Space Shuttle Columbia, Space Shuttle Challenger, Beirut explosion, and many more disasters are caused by complacency.
Y'all sound like tinfoil hat-equipped conspiracy theorists lol We are past the point of no return, we all collectively decided to give these companies all of our information last decade and there's no way out of it.
@@Gatitasecsiihis isn't either or, that is to say that the amount of data you give isn't either all or nothing, you can give a lot, very little, and everything in between. So to say that "either you give everything, or don't use the internet" (parafrasing, obviously), is just a false dualism. Also, probably you should have tried to not prove this guy's post in your comment while trying to argue against it...
The example I came up with and keep using is, "if you don't care about your privacy then show me naked photos of yourself". If that doesn't drive the point home then they're lost and there's no point in communicating with them further.
@@olivercharles2930 The point there is that you're either a liar or a psychopath. If I had such photos you definitely would care and you certainly wouldn't want me distributing them.
@@olivercharles2930In this analogy, they *take the photos* with a telephoto lense when you're in your house and you have to be ok with those being shared.
Not everyone is concerned about privacy out of a juvenile shame. Many people have entirely reasonable concerns about being imprisoned by their government.
@@MrCmon113 The kind of people that claim they don't care because they have nothing to hide need it phrased in simple terms because they tend to be of lower intelligence. They may not have shame of their bodies, but they at least realize that others have morals and do. Sadly, they are also the kind of people that are okay with political prisoners, as long as it's the other side being imprisoned. In the country I live in, we've got hundreds of political prisoners whose only crime was protesting a rigged election, even some who weren't even at the protest and got some of the harshest sentences.
A person from work told me that he doesn't care about privacy. He actually stated that we need to lose that privacy so the system can integrate us better to itself, therefore giving us better opportunities; fighting this was going against the times. I think he made some sense, so im thinking about dropping society entirely.
Jesus, what a pathetic and submissive world of view. Why the fuck would someone trust people in power to "give" them better oportunities? Governments and billionares are constantly taking away as much oportunities and freedoms from us as they can get away with it. You gotta be blind to the history of the world to spit out a take as brain-dead as that, lmao.
I just watched a video about websites that offer access to anyones public records and list their social media accounts and i thought it was absolutely beyond creepy how many depraved people were trying to find someone who stopped talking to them and how many creepy people were trying to find someone's secrets and dig up "dirt". I think it's disgusting to do that to someone. Instead of living life and worrying about yourself, they worry about other people who don't wish to associate with them anymore and try to violate them by finding secret and sensitive information about them. Its just awful that our legal system allows this.
this video was a lot better than i expected. i especially liked how you have recent real world examples. that imo is the easiest and quickest way to inform/convince someone
best thing ive ever seen said about this subject was something along the lines of "its not my actions im worried of but the intent of those spying on them." if its someone in person saying it, ask them if they are willing to hand over their phone unlocked and when they say no throw the arguments they make back at them
If our data is worth money, then we should be the ones earning money not the other way around. That way we know who we are selling it to and it becomes our responsibility to whom we sell it to. Only just stumbled on your Ch. Great work man, very informative, keep it up.
My response to these types of people is simple: "Show me your bank statement - login to your bank account and show it to me right now." They then usually say "No". Oh, but I thought you had nothing to hide... turns out you do.
People are entirely too comfortable with companies and the government violating their rights to privacy. This is disgusting. IF there is a legit reason for suspicion, the authorities are already tracking. This is a huge problem
Someone close to me almost got caught trying to get away from her abusive husband b/c something on her phone shared the info that I was trying to help her get a small mattress and other stuff she'd need. She started getting ads for basically everything you'd need to buy if you only had the clothes on your back and a bugout bag, including moving and "fresh start" services and products. When I say abusive, I mean like violent episodes where the neighbors had to call the cops and there's assault charges still in the works, so that shtt could have gotten her KILLED.
Privacy is underrated, those are our informations and nobody should get it freely whenever they want. I do care to make it comprehensible even for the stupidest person about how his personal data is used. You would not give all your thoughts, insecurities, medical problems to your neighbour, so why should big companies know all your stuff? If they want my data, they better pay me.
case 1: photos case 2: photos case 3: videos + hardware case 4: videos + hardware case 5: data you willingly give Facebook (by filling out your profile, engaging with certain groups, posts, people, etc...) case 6: This kind of marketing existed even before the internet was even a thing. In certain places, if you look wealthy you will, for example, get a different menu in a restaurant. The problem isn't the data they use to execute it but the fact that this kind of marketing is legal(online or offline). While it might seem unfair, I don't see it as a privacy violation + if you don't know it's happening then are you really affected by it? Case 7: valid case, bad example. Those health records were most likely entered into the system by your doctor and not you directly. I don't think there is much you as a patient could do to stop that. None of the above cases have anything to do with browsers in particular. If you willingly chose to upload your photos, fill out your Facebook profile, or connect a camera to the internet then even the most private browser is not going to change anything.
@@user-yh9gh4lq6u valid point, but doesn't affect people "that have nothing to hide". They are only interested in specific keywords and while you could make the argument that some keywords can be good or bad depending on context it's also not as black and white as you think. If you truly have nothing to hide then both you and law enforcement just wasted a bunch of time and money if they decide to pull the trigger based on a single out of context keyword. And if you do have things to hide then stop lying to yourself
Just the first example you gave about the poor dad caring about his child is reason enough for me to finally take care about my privacy and data. This exact scenario is not specifically applicable to my current situation but something similar could happen to anyone, I took a photo of a industrial hemp field because, you know, it looks like a giant weed plantation to the untrained eye, or AI. If the laws were harsher they would now have reason to issue a house search, I dont want that.
My trauma made me paranoid enough to basically not tell anyone anything about myself (like personal info) irl so when i started actually learning about the interenet after using it carelessly for so long i of course wanted to stay as private as possibly (while still being able to use it like i want to)
It's worth keeping in mind that Facebook messenger will hand over your messages in eg abortion cases. I haven't seen any cases of Facebook WhatsApp metadata being used in such cases, but they will have that location data along with other meta data. They will know if you visited an abortion clinic on your "camping" trip. I know abortion is a crime in many countries, but so many people forget that their private communication isn't private.
The problem is not only about *WHO* you're sharing data with, but also *WHICH* data you decide to share... Ex 1. Do not take (or save) pictures you're not ready to be exposed nor do not put a video camera in your bedroom or toilet (unless you don't mind to be streamed on internet) Ex 2. Don't say stuff you might regret (even on the most privacy frienly social netwok). Ex 3. Don't do anything that may put you in trouble (even the most privacy friendly strorage system will have to obey to the law if requested. Even the most privacy friendly system could be hacked ... ). Etc. ... And when you really need to do one of this stuff: use the right tools ! Don't do it on your computer (do it in a disposable VM for exemple), don't do it while linked with *any* account (or create fake ones), don't do it on your personal network (but use Tor or use an open wifi network), ...
People should be more aware of Privacy and Cybersecurity, especially in indonesia where biillions of private data like id , phone number, and etc, leaked every years
Admitting you did something wrong is scary stuff, apparently. But using a service that let's someone else spy on your kids? Totally guilt free. The world is beyond hope.
it was the default until there was something to gain by contradicting it. people dont want to change their normal way of behaving, so if you tell them to stop using chrome, they have to start coming up with reasons why it is justified, rather than take an objective approach.
@@Always.SmarterWhen I was a teenager on the dialup internet it was common sense to not give out your information. You were constantly told to never use your real name.
This. This video really and truly broke down why privacy is so important. To hear these real life situations and how they played out really puts things into perspective. Great video man, I really hope it blows up in the algo and more people see it
Most encrypted messaging apps are on an app watch list. These lists are used by law enforcement and other government agencies to automatically identify accounts that may be involved in suspicious behaviour.
Sadly I blame myself for still using TH-cam. Even though we have to use it to get the information out. When I first registered my YT account back 2006, it wasn't even owned by Google yet.
Generally, Europe and in particular Germany and Switzerland have stricter laws regarding your private space. If it comes from China or the US, you are the product, not the item you bought or the software you installed.
@@krollpeter As a Swissman, I would like to warn everyone that the CIA has many outfits in Switzerland posing as private companies selling "privacy" services. Not that long ago a company called Crypto AG was ratted out has a CIA front, I bet others are too. Our government is deeply corrupted by the US. As for Germany, their are part of the 14 eyes and are military occupied by the USA, I wouldn't trust them.
When Lizard Face (Facebook owner) made a change to Whatsapp and said (in short) "give us access to everything on your phone or you can't use Whatsapp" then I removed it and never went back. If anyone want something from me and does not have Signal, then they can text me. Also I heard a new quote about privacy, "I have nothing to hide but still, when I take a sh#t I close the doors to the bathroom".
Imagine you having a stalker and voluntarily giving him your information, like where you live where you work, what you do in your freetime, what hobbies do you have, etc. It is unsettling to say the least.
This is honestly probably one of the best videos advocating for privacy, no philosophical bullshit. Just clear plain examples of what happens and what can go wrong with all the access to data all at the expense of you
I think the main reason why I am not ok with this nothing to hide idea is the fact that they collect information about you and you are not collecting about them. I now days and age knowledge is power. You don't need a gun to end someone and this intrusive privacy breach is definitely not fair disbalance. They simply can do to you what they want and there is not much that you can do about it.
Just found your channel and it was such an unexpected surprise. You provide a content that I didn't even realize I needed. Congrats and keep up the great work :) P.S. Could you make a video on how to have more privacy on the smartphones, giving options for services like e-mail, mobile browsers, cloud services, etc.? It would be extremely useful!
the sad part about that edward snowden quote is that it relies on people valuing freedom of speech, which many seem not to. they might think they have nothing to say because they dont say slurs, which is, in their mind, the only thing free speech is meant to protect.
To be fair, facial recognition case was a misfire, and cameras will scan you anyway and mistake for someone else, you feed them your photo or not, so it's not the privacy issue but rather AI scanning problem and public space legislations. Google photos was automatic system misfire, and although it's wasn't nice, but you explained that owner had automatic google upload feature on his device, so it's kinda like saying that youtube intruded in your private life by banning you, when you uploaded video of your naked child. Though dad may not be introduced to technology in proper manner, being victim, but on the other hand we still send to prison people who claim that they didn't know that killing is illegal. So if you accidentally send sensitive data because you didn't understand technology, well, that's on you. Employees spying IS a privacy breach, if it's not a feature though, but that's why companies paying for its' mistake - it's not supposed to happen. Companies aren't interested in scamming it's users, because mostly people have no real value to offer to the company, for them wanting to attack you personally. You are too little for them, and even if your life gets destroyed, it wasn't the goal of the company, it doesn't gain anything from it, it's just misfire. But if you predict your financial growth in the future, you can start to worry about privacy beforehand, since after success you will be individually targeted by discrete criminal groups, who may have access to your personal data. And doing so will expire already accumulated web data, since it will be invalid. If you're not rich, no matter how good you are with privacy, you won't have enough means to defend yourself, if real criminal subjects will want to mess with you specifically.
Hello, it's me again. I can truly understand your frustration. Every time I mention to my classmates that I use Brave or Hardened Firefox, they respond in the same way xD
The thing is... If someone was an actual pervert they would likely be smart enough to IDK use offline phones to take horrible pictures and hell maybe even go low tech.
Any human who have lived has experienced conflict of interest. Someone wants something that you don’t want. Information is power,surrendering privacy is surrendering power and letting someone else have their way over you. Someone else gets the job, gets the promotion, gets the loan, gets some urge met, gets some benefit etc
Another thing that really bothers me about all the data tracking is how much energy it wastes. I can't even imagine the power consumption of all those servers combined. Edit: it also negatively effects the battery life of our devices. I turned off a bunch of background network features on my 4 year old phone such as talking to wifi networks even when wifi is off, or the same with bluetooth, as well as disabling the voice assistant. My phone now lasts me a very long day, very comfortably despite having a relatively small and old battery. (galaxy note 10)
All this AI data scraping going around is the final nail in the coffin for me. Just goes to show how these companies aren't afraid of being as blood sucking as possible.
I am not a person who cares too much about privacy so I was intrigued to see what Eric had to say in this video and he managed to convince me: If you are like me and don't care if someone spies on you while you sleep or knows where you parked your car and you have no kids or anything like that, the thing that I feel could convince anyone to stop using these mainstream tech products is wanting to not get cheated on and to be treated equally and fairly. Because you heard it folks: tech giants will not play fair and nice with your data. They *will* manipulate you with what they know about you, first chance they get and with the amount of data they harvest daily, they get plenty of chances.
Chrome or even google photos is one thing, but people putting microphones and cameras like alexa and ring willingly into their own homes - and even paying for the privilege - is just insanity. Never mind our phones are already listening in as much as they are, you want to give them full surround sound of your house - and a video feed to go along with it?
It really feels like two worlds to me. There are so many people who can't or choose not to see all the problems with this data harvesting economy. And then there's people who do care about their online privacy, who must sound like tin-foil hats to the first group. I'm sure that big tech propaganda must have contributed to this, but it is nonetheless striking...
a comment that's actually made sense to me in a while when it comes to this kind of stuff i genuinely understand where these people are coming from, but i goofed up once by faking my name for an ACTUAL phone company, and i screwed up a phone plan and my mum got mad at me (let's just say i am not of legal age to get a phone plan as of now) but yeah it is sucky cuz privacy is something i do value, but i hate that if i delve into this content, it feels *mildly* extremist
went apartment hunting one time looking to board with people for a reasonable rate to save money "oh we have a smart house with cameras in every room" nope!
I do agree that people should be allowed to have privacy and I hope the info in this video is useful to those looking to be more private, however I gotta be honest none of these examples even apply to me
Still wracking my mind about the fact that some people didn't think it was enough to let Amazon into their home via Alexa, but also needed to let Amazon's eyes in via Ring. How do these people survive day to day without forgetting to breathe?? Why is the regardation so widespread??
I need privacy, not because my actions are questionable, but because your judgment and intentions are.
How is wanting to be private and not wanting to get into trouble for crimes you didn't commit "questionable"?
@@Diogo85 read it again.
@@user-yh9gh4lq6u What do you mean? Who's making it questionable? Privacy is important. One man was arrested and had his Google account terminated just because took a picture of his son's genitals just so he could send it to his doctor.
@@Diogo85 I think you've flipped the metaphor the original comment was trying to make. It's like saying; you're the one who choose to prioritize privacy, and you know your actions aren't questionable so you have the right to be private. You might NEED privacy because other people have mal-intententions with your data, and thus might interpret it as questionable (which is consistent with your example: getting a google account terminated for doing no wrong in saving a picture of a son's genitals for medical purposes).
You wouldn't want to be that guy who gets his google account terminated, and you know there are separate parties (in this case, Google) who can do that even if your actions (possessing that photo) wasn't meant with harm. The separate party here is who's questionable, not you. That's what I think they meant.
@@hamingnu6610 Oops, I read that comment wrong. My bad.
It's crazy how "they're just trying to make money" is considered a proper justification for anything corporations do. I also don't see how "spying on kids" is any less creepy than spying on people.
you phrased this like kids arent people lol
Thanks for clarifying that kids aren't people 😂
@@justalunarticyour babysitter didn't carry a knife?
it's worse.
@@brainwithani5693I mean, unless she was about to cut my sandwich when I was smol, no.
There was a time when websites were about information, and there was no concept of "user data" at all. You visited a site, made use of the information you needed from it, and moved on with your life. Companies figuring out they could monetize user data was a dark event in tech history.
Guy who discovered this apologised and does charity now
Unfortunately a free service has to make money somehow and user data is one of the best paying ways...
Good old web 1.0
technically you still move on with your life
@@goran5844 That's the most insidious lie about it all; tons of websites used to be completely free without ever harvesting user data to monetize.
Technology aside, privacy is an important social necessity. My nephew likes to tell everything to everybody. He does this in part because he's young and still hasn't figured out what is or is not okay socially. If he continues to do this when he gets older I will say, "I'm happy that you are carefree about your privacy. I'm disappointed, though, that I can't share everything with you." Someone who doesn't value their privacy because "they have nothing to hide" may inadvertently share information about others with the wrong audience, and not because they are ill intentioned; only because they failed to practice discretion. People should be educated that privacy is not a selfish thing; it protects others.
Exactly. This is a maturity issue and a knowledge gap in the policymaking side , perhaps special interests. Almost guaranteed. These companies have a bit of immunity from too much scrutiny in the US because they are so critical to even strategic priorities. It affects policy at the highest levels when you talk about one of the big tech companies.
I would like to believe Congress just doesn't understand the internet. Not 15 years ago we had.. "the internet is not a big truck. It's a series of tubes. And when those tubes get filled, your internet is going to be delayed." Funny stuff but how far have they come in understanding the issue with the data collection and inherent risk.
If you weren't aware that was a popular meme on mid 2000s internet.
That is one of the funniest things about kids though, with no filter they just blurt whatevers on their mind like "Dad the guy in front of us smells!"
Hahah, good old trick, make sure everyone thinks you have nothing to hide, so they won't notice when you hide something. Always works
Im the opposite, i care about privacy but my dad likes to tell everything to everybody 😅
Yes, that is a very important point.
Spying on kids is absolutely unacceptable. It's very disturbing and you're not a privacy nut for thinking it's bad.
The problem is that everyone who _does_ care about privacy does come off as a nut. "Don't use anything but Browser-Of-The-Moment! Don't use email! Don't use a search engine! Look over your shoulder every 5 minutes to make sure no one is looking at your screen! The government cares what color your shirt is, don't let them know!!"
They always take it way too far.
@@flameshana9If you think everyone who cares about privacy is like this, maybe that says something about yourself.
@@areadenial2343 not everyone obviously, but too many.
@@flameshana9 I've rarely seen people saying this considering what you said doesn't make any sense (you can't use a browser without a search engine) but more importantly, they're rarely vocal, as even people who do care about privacy know themselves this kind of paranoia is nonsense and generally are here to respond or simply downvote, at least on the internet.
But on the other hand, I'd say that's how people who care about privacy are _perceived_ as you've brilliantly shown it, you being of course one of them, because claiming everybody who cares about privacy is like that is just as absurd as the people you're trying to describe.
But to be fair, I myself can easily see why it would be perceived as being crazy or paranoid but in no way I would consider it as being such when you know what you should protect yourself from because the privacy invasion from a lot of companies is really done to this extent.
As a quick demonstration, to have a good privacy on the internet, you should: use a browser that respects your privacy, use a search engine that respects your privacy, use an operating system that respects your privacy (little mention for the case of Android: this OS by default with all the Google apps doesn't give you any privacy but as its core is open source, the best thing to do is to install custom ROM like GrapheneOS or LineageOS that are based on this open source core), use a mail service that respects your privacy, create several email accounts if needed, have an account to create aliases for your email account at will.
For good practices: you should never use your main email account and use aliases instead, by compartmentalizing your emails by business, bank accounts, online shopping, personal, acquaintances, family, etc... You should use different browsers (or at least profiles like on Firefox) depending on the level of privacy you're going to let go, as connecting to one of your account with personal data on it could compromise the anonymity of your anonymous accounts to which you connected to on this same browser. You should also use extensions if your browser doesn't block (enough) by default trackers or fingerprinting.
And that's not it, I'll just stop here because it would become to long eventually (if it's not already for you).
But the thing is, for any privacy concerned and informed person, all of that is basic and if you think it's being paranoid, then @areadenial is right: maybe that says something about yourself. Talk to a cybersecurity expert and you'll see.
t@@rigierish3807 surely you dont need s search engine to put in a url
Google
NOW HIRING
No need to apply, we already have your information.
Then all of sudden "Denied"
Nah they're still going to have you enter all that info at least twice
Google is hiring!
Sorry you were automatically denied considering information about you.
"Congratulations, you have been pre-declined for our credit card!"
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Whenever somebody don't care about privacy online and have nothing to hide, the first thing I asked them is what's their social security number. That usually gets them thinking.
Most of the people that "care about privacy" or "care about censorship" somehow end up justifying and recommending the absolutely worst offenders like Yandex and Opera.
It's like the people who support open borders but lock their house door.
@@kaminekoch.7465 Well I mean you get people that just don't know what they're talking about, its not a surprise.
Well thought.
They are probably thinking "Well, I don't care about online privacy because I don't post essential information on internet including my SSN. Why did he ask about it?" or something like that.
I think it's more like a part of real life privacy which those people WOULD care.
The classic case of “give them an inch and they’ll take a light year” they do not care and they have demonstrated time and time again that if you trust them to use your data appropriately, they will use data that you’ve never intended to ever give them in an inappropriate manner.
The thing that really pisses me off about this is that these companies will harvest all this data without your consent, but then fail to keep it secure, so now all your data is basically out there, on the internet, maybe even the public internet if not the dark web.
So there could be photos, videos, audio recordings, etc, of you that you don't even know about on some sweaty weirdo's hard drive because you had the audacity to do laundry in front of your car.
It's out of control. Even healthcare has been dealing with data breaches left and right for years now as everything migrated from physical printed records to digital ones. But these clinics keep making those bland corporate speak statements "we are committed to the privacy of our patients".. If they were, they would not have allowed a remote data center to manage patient information.
@@rixille this is a reason I'm against digitalizing in governments. motherfuckers just can't keep it secure from BASIC FUCKING SOCIAL ENGINEERING, YOU'RE A GODDAMN GOVERNMENT
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@@rixille buddy you do realize it is impossible to stop all data breaches it happens all the time because surprise encryption systems are limited, there is always a vulnerability it is impossible to seal perfectly.
I don't care if you're using 256 bit AES which everything uses these days because it is the best but it means jack all because its been around forever, people know how to crack the encryptions easily now, they find vulnerabilities. It's not difficult by any means to get data, happens to apple, google Microsoft, the national defense who all use the same 256 bit AES, the only difference is the military runs a bunch of other shit with it that makes it far more difficult to get into and it changes very frequently along with their specialists working around the clock at all times doing their best.
These companies stop hundreds of breaches daily might even be far more than that, possibly in the tens of thousands daily.
Ontop of the fact people are just really stupid and give out information that helps bypass security systems and so on.
It is with your consent. It’s just on that long ass small font eula nobody reads 🤷♂️
Companies spying on you is creepy.
People actually defending the actions of these companies is unacceptable. I doubt they're even human.
Dead internet
In Companies We Trust
NPCs supporting this: "Woah bro did you mean you don't want massive corporations to juggle your personal data around so they can profit from it and take advantage of you; while you can't know all personal details of the people collecting this data, what doctor they see, the names and addresses of their family and friends, what car they drive, what groceries they buy and what street address they live at? Wow imagine the entitlement."
I would just lump them in with those creepy pervert companies that spy on you. You are what you praise.
Same as people defending politicians.
Has nothing to hide... While random & creepy google employee smiles.
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@@vigilantclips5912 I remember that one story about girl whose Gmail account was viewed and controlled by some creep from Google. I don't have the link to news about that, but I remember it happened. YAY, "I have nothing to hide!"...
No one is viewing your data personally, it only is meaningful in volume of millions
Why point to an employee? They couldn't care less and would be easily used as scapegoats if they overstep. The real risk is in management, CEOs lobbying government officials and the like.
imho the battle for privacy is already lost, everything from discord, to your browsers already have your data.
B-b-b-b-but my VPN, yes, it all goes through your ISP first and foremost.
All you can do is try and raise your voice so your govt can attempt to block these massive moneymakers, which they just wont. The solution is to never create any account for any reason at all ever, because that info will be collected no matter what. Just don't be online.
You know there was a time in the internet where it was discouraged to keep things like your real name or even age public. Nowadays, you can search someone's name up and find their email, job profile, social media, phone number, etc. It's not that you're being private cause you're hiding something bad, it's that too much information being posted publicly can be used maliciously by people you don't know. Thank you for this video!
This is the era I grew up in. The Internet was effectively understood as other people’s computers so its best to be CAREFUL.
You have done a better job than me at explaining internet privacy. Kudos to you!
I used to go a bit extreme when it comes to internet privacy, but now I try to balance spying and internet privacy like I still use TH-cam for example. My point of view is: Even if you take three steps further when it comes to mitigating spyware, and you take 1 step back, you still are two steps further than just saying "I have nothing to hide" and going three steps back.
Good stance!
Yes this is exactly the point that I think commenters like that one shown in the beginning of the video fail to understand. Privacy is not a zero sum game. You can aim to have as much or as little as you like, or anything inbetween, and not every step is a sacrifice. As Eric said at the end, many of the replacements are just straight up superior to the big tech alternatives.
Dude, you over complicate your ideas. Learn to sumarize and stop using technical words.
@@Raylightsentl;dr.
Less bad is better than more bad.
Idk why but i read your nick as 'sprinkle dingles' xD
i am afraid that oneday some ai will pick up a joke i said 15 years prior and think i meant someone harm. imagine auto-canceling people with ai
Coming soon to a dystopia near you
You don't need AI for that. If you posted the comments publicly, you can simply search them for keywords.
This kind of stuff really only matters if you're running for something and your opponents are digging up dirt.
In general still a good idea to keep your shit talking separate from your real identity, but that's not the most important part of opsec.
Not to mention all the scammers who will be contacting you after since a lot of companies sell data, and those who claim does not sell it on black market by their employees.
2:38 That first example there reminds me of something a friend said to convince me that I should care about privacy... "You don't get to decide what other people decide is right or wrong." Everyone who "Does nothing wrong" has someone who disagrees with them.
That
I’ve tried to explain why I care about internet privacy to family members but could never bring up many practical real world examples for why they should care.
I love this video and have sent it away thank you so much!
The problem is, their products are too comfortable for them.
Like whenever I bring linux to the table, because the family PC is bloated they say "but there is no antivirus right ? how am I supposed to use that ?" "open source, woah that seems so insecure to use"
It was the same for bringing Signal, plus now it can't be used for mms/sms.
Windows & cie are so present in every day life that it is very hard to convey other things :-(
@@wolfwoof2000 Holy moly, they dare to have arguments like antivirus or that opensource is insecure ? You have to teach them their place. They have no idea what they're talking about and they should listen to you. Jeez, my blood just got thicker just from reading that. Threatem them to never help in anything computer related "if they know so well what's good and bad"
@@Winnetou17 Yeah 😆 Idk for me it makes sense but antivirus ads are everywhere, woo spooky stranger can hack me. I bring them open source which is just way more secure since everyone can contribute for OS safety, it's for our own good but they are so stubborn. I don't trust closed source software now it's not secure to me lol
Ublock origin is the only "antivirus" anyone needs.
One day I will convey them that my Linux never broke after 4 years and I watch they w10 going downhill after each update
@@wolfwoof2000 When antivirus comes up, bring up firewalls and ClamAV+ClamTK, and say that most viruses are made for Windows, hence it requires so much protection from antiviruses.
And tell them that being open source just means that programs can't hide what they are doing on your computer from you, and that it's harder to sneak malicious stuff in it since it's open.
If they say that the hackers are given access to the code, reply that hackers will try to hack no matter what and the real difference is that the entire world can work on open programs' security but only one company can work on a proprietary program's security. Also the Linux desktop is unlikely to be targeted by hackers since most people use Windows.
You could also say that companies prioritize money, and that communities prioritize the users since they themselves are users.
Of course, this only applies if they actually listen. Your plan with Win10 sounds good. What distro do you have for them in mind? What DE?
Just show them the data breaches that happen in healthcare. Medical clinics entrusting digital patient information to third party data centers which then get breached and all that patient information released to the dark web. "We are committed to the privacy of our patients" no they are not.
crazy how the abstract nature of digital data completely eludes people.
Here is a good counter point. "Do you rip up your mail before throwing it in the trash? Why not just pin your old mail to a tree outside your house?"
That's a great one as it contains the concept of the type of data we are talking about in concrete form.
Thank you! Finally I'm seeing some resistance to the ugly zero-privacy future that sometimes seems inevitable.
there are no privacy when using electronic connected devices, only privacy is your thoughts
@@fernandoblazinthat's why even Edward Snowden still has a phone... What?
@@zomt420 exactly, there are still people that think there is a thing like privacy
@@fernandoblazin How is it not possible to have privacy using electronic connected devices? I'd really like to know because I don't see why you'd be right.
@@glowez because the glowies don't don't respect privacy
A "privacy nut" is what the employees at these companies are doing :v
I understood the joke and immediately regretted understanding it
LMAO
HAHAHAHAHA 💀💀💀
I never knew Signal did that kind of campaign. 10/10. I do organic internet marketing for a living and think that this kind of excessive data collection is just... Dumb? Remember back in the day when users could select their interests and thats what ads they'd get shown? That's the only acceptable data to collect. Anything more than what the user knowingly gives you is just asking for the system to be abused.
Having nothing to hide isn't the same as having nothing to fear.
Well spoken, my guy!
My father uses Google drive to store documents like national identity, driving license, etc. Because he gets 'free' storage and can be viewed on both phone and pc. And it's very hard to convince him to switch to something else.
Only a BIG blow to people, like data leaks, convince them that these corporations can't be trusted.
Can't deny the convenience that Google Drive has, and the relatively generous free 15gb.
The other options (Dropbox, OneDrive) arn't better. I started a Nextcloud for myself and some family members, but I can't imagine that would be dooable for someone who's never hosted and managed software.
thing is you cannot stop all data breaches its impossible it doesn't matter what you do happens to the national defense all the time..banks, companeis etc its near impossible to stop... these companies spend a ridiculous amount of money on systems and specialists always trying their best to protect information, it don't matter they stop hundreds to tens of thousands daily alone its insane.
It's explicitly why you should be careful about what information you bother keeping anyways..
@@wchorskithere's protondrive and Mega that are better
@@wchorski question is, is your nextcloud more secure than gdrive?
That first example of the dad sending medical photos of his toddler to a doctor is actually what made me change my mind awhile back. Before that I still thought privacy as a right was important, but reading that article made it click that actually, yea, this does concern me.
Here's another good reason to care about privacy, even if it doesn't apply to everyone:
Sometimes people do have something to hide. Not because they're doing something bad, but because the law is simply not a measure of morality. And so, for some people who live in countries that are actively trying to harm them for who they are what they do, privacy is indeed an absolute necessity.
Anyways, this is a great video, thanks for making it.
I will believe the "I have nothing to hide" people when they stop sleeping with the curtains closed.
Clearly there's a reason they put clothes on in the morning. Cell phone cameras often spy on people while undressed.
Privacy is important because it’s a human right, and we need to draw the line SOMEWHERE.
But that's the thing. Alot of sick people do illegal things in private. So many creeps are in jail now because their privacy was compromised and things were exposed.
It’s simple as this: No company is perfect, so eventually there will be hacking attempts that leak people’s information to dangerous hackers. Nobody wants this to happen, so this reason alone is enough for privacy to be important.
what is the worst a hacker could do? I couldn't give less of a shit honestly.
@@olivercharles2930 They can very easily frame you for crimes, steal your entire identity and do things in your name with your social, they can stalk and watch you at all times and your family kids etc.
If you didn't care you post up your social and credit cards bank info etc online
All companies easily buckle to governments, which are way more dangerous than any hackers.
@@olivercharles2930steal all your personal information. Leak all your personal information to a public forum. Leak all your pictures. Every text and comment you've sent. Your family members. Your home address and your family members' home addresses. Everything about your family and all of their information
You might think this amount of information leakage is ludicrous, but these companies all around the world scrape so much information that it's even beyond the scope of this. This is why online privacy is so important
For people that say I have nothing to hide. I ask why don't your house built with glass? They said that's creepy. I say yes it's creepy.
Glass house would be cool, but fragile
"I have nothing to hide" people when a bad actor abuses their sensitive information: 😢
Politicians: allows everyone's addresses to be published on the internet.
Also Politicians: How do the young people keep swatting me?!?!
Seriously though, this is a problem that needs to be stopped.
Great to see some good examples of this. This far every time soneone spoke or write about privacy, the worst thing they brought up was "they can show you ads, they think would interest you...".
You’ve really changed my mind on privacy stuffs! Thanks bro I was already concerned with privacy and you just opened my eyes even further
oh great, the 1 billionth furry I've seen today
@@user-uo8ny1kj4c oh great the 80 billionth mad-for-no-reason person ive seen today
oh great, the 1 billionth user-o26sbe6g89k I’ve seen today
Second example is more about how shit the judicial system in America is
I'm so tired of decades going by but our laws are still in the 1800s.
When asked in school back in 2017ish, when asked what are my Hobbies and Interests and being pressed by the Admins and Guest Speaker, In front of everyone I said, Privacy, Discretion, and Confidentiality.
They left me alone after that.
The companies might be "just trying to make money", but there's no moral obligation to help that with it. Therefore, adblocker. It's just basic sense.
My response to "Why do you care about privacy?" is "Would you be okay with people watching you shower?"
Unfortunately there are people who say yes.
I don't give a shit whether people watch me shower.
good for you.@@MrCmon113
And if you get the wrong light bulb, they are.
@@MrCmon113 send me video, if you are women ;)
probably the best video i have found in argument for privacy / privacy browsers because it does actually show many different real life scenarios that have happened recently which more people will understand better than other ways (like the quote you said)
I want to thank you for actually going over real-world situations and calling out the people who just go "Oh, you don't care about privacy? Well, you must not mind a stranger rifling through your wallet and watching you go to the bathroom then", which is legitimately an argument I've heard on more than a single occasion. I've never really cared about privacy all that much, and whenever I'd ask why people care, people would just get immediately hostile and call me a corporate shill for simply asking a question.
It’s just aggravating how it’s not viewed as important by the masses, when it is. It’s just like how government officials do a whole list of illegal things that affect the occupants of their state but it isn’t seen as bad as say, murderer. When if you think about it, it is actually much worse and hurts way more people 🤷♂️
It just does it indirectly.
Theres more of you than there is of us, so you will inevitably vote to screw us over because you have nothing to hide... its a tale as old as civilization and why fascism has such a foothold in humanities past, present and future.
I know a guy who thought this, someone breached his yahoo mail tied to his business, and he said he didn’t have anything to hide.
He then proceeded to find out just how bad things can get, multiple accounts then proceeded to be hacked, his Facebook was used for illegal purposes and even the police visited him, (they were aware but had to at least get his side). He lost a ton of invoices, had his cards used, and basically went through a ton of stress, time, and money.
It’s like leaving your door open and having a new neighbor move in, they walk right in and just stare at you, and you say “I got nothing to hide”, days later your stuff starts disappearing and they are invading your privacy.
This mentality is literal complacency, and complacency is dangerous. Not only does it stagnate your own growth and progress, but you then get comfortable with things you shouldn’t be, complacency has killed people, sometimes hundreds.
Industrial accidents, USS Scorpion, USS Thresher, USS Iowa turret 2, Titan from OceanGate, Space Shuttle Columbia, Space Shuttle Challenger, Beirut explosion, and many more disasters are caused by complacency.
Y'all sound like tinfoil hat-equipped conspiracy theorists lol
We are past the point of no return, we all collectively decided to give these companies all of our information last decade and there's no way out of it.
@@Gatitasecsii ✨ *Complacency* ✨
@@Gatitasecsiihis isn't either or, that is to say that the amount of data you give isn't either all or nothing, you can give a lot, very little, and everything in between. So to say that "either you give everything, or don't use the internet" (parafrasing, obviously), is just a false dualism.
Also, probably you should have tried to not prove this guy's post in your comment while trying to argue against it...
The example I came up with and keep using is, "if you don't care about your privacy then show me naked photos of yourself". If that doesn't drive the point home then they're lost and there's no point in communicating with them further.
If you can find the photos, then cool.
I guess I am lost and there's no point in communicating with me any further though.
@@olivercharles2930 The point there is that you're either a liar or a psychopath. If I had such photos you definitely would care and you certainly wouldn't want me distributing them.
@@olivercharles2930In this analogy, they *take the photos* with a telephoto lense when you're in your house and you have to be ok with those being shared.
Not everyone is concerned about privacy out of a juvenile shame.
Many people have entirely reasonable concerns about being imprisoned by their government.
@@MrCmon113 The kind of people that claim they don't care because they have nothing to hide need it phrased in simple terms because they tend to be of lower intelligence. They may not have shame of their bodies, but they at least realize that others have morals and do. Sadly, they are also the kind of people that are okay with political prisoners, as long as it's the other side being imprisoned. In the country I live in, we've got hundreds of political prisoners whose only crime was protesting a rigged election, even some who weren't even at the protest and got some of the harshest sentences.
A person from work told me that he doesn't care about privacy. He actually stated that we need to lose that privacy so the system can integrate us better to itself, therefore giving us better opportunities; fighting this was going against the times. I think he made some sense, so im thinking about dropping society entirely.
it's creepy how some people think like this
Jesus, what a pathetic and submissive world of view. Why the fuck would someone trust people in power to "give" them better oportunities? Governments and billionares are constantly taking away as much oportunities and freedoms from us as they can get away with it. You gotta be blind to the history of the world to spit out a take as brain-dead as that, lmao.
Tell him to move to China in that case
I just watched a video about websites that offer access to anyones public records and list their social media accounts and i thought it was absolutely beyond creepy how many depraved people were trying to find someone who stopped talking to them and how many creepy people were trying to find someone's secrets and dig up "dirt". I think it's disgusting to do that to someone. Instead of living life and worrying about yourself, they worry about other people who don't wish to associate with them anymore and try to violate them by finding secret and sensitive information about them. Its just awful that our legal system allows this.
Even if you think you have nothing to hide, the powers that be will simply find arbitrary fault with something you do.
And that's called tyranny, something live and well.
this video was a lot better than i expected. i especially liked how you have recent real world examples. that imo is the easiest and quickest way to inform/convince someone
I totally agree with you. Privacy is important. Good job.
best thing ive ever seen said about this subject was something along the lines of "its not my actions im worried of but the intent of those spying on them." if its someone in person saying it, ask them if they are willing to hand over their phone unlocked and when they say no throw the arguments they make back at them
honestly showing mac users more expensive rooms is the funniest shit ive heard all day tbh, part of me is like this is so true
Yup. Logical thing to do. Oh you want to spend more money for no reason? Here you go.
@@sen7826 it was for more premium rooms, not for no reason.
If our data is worth money, then we should be the ones earning money not the other way around. That way we know who we are selling it to and it becomes our responsibility to whom we sell it to. Only just stumbled on your Ch. Great work man, very informative, keep it up.
your paycheck is free software.
@@staskozak8118Paying people with fictional currency is illegal.
My response to these types of people is simple: "Show me your bank statement - login to your bank account and show it to me right now." They then usually say "No". Oh, but I thought you had nothing to hide... turns out you do.
I currently have $3.62 in my bank account
i currently have $31.02 in my bank account
@@_wija -500 probably for me...i have been scraping by for months..fighting with the VA and trying to get some sort of job
People are entirely too comfortable with companies and the government violating their rights to privacy. This is disgusting. IF there is a legit reason for suspicion, the authorities are already tracking. This is a huge problem
Thank you for giving amazing examples. Now I am equipped with counter-arguments
Someone close to me almost got caught trying to get away from her abusive husband b/c something on her phone shared the info that I was trying to help her get a small mattress and other stuff she'd need. She started getting ads for basically everything you'd need to buy if you only had the clothes on your back and a bugout bag, including moving and "fresh start" services and products. When I say abusive, I mean like violent episodes where the neighbors had to call the cops and there's assault charges still in the works, so that shtt could have gotten her KILLED.
Privacy is underrated, those are our informations and nobody should get it freely whenever they want. I do care to make it comprehensible even for the stupidest person about how his personal data is used. You would not give all your thoughts, insecurities, medical problems to your neighbour, so why should big companies know all your stuff?
If they want my data, they better pay me.
case 1: photos
case 2: photos
case 3: videos + hardware
case 4: videos + hardware
case 5: data you willingly give Facebook (by filling out your profile, engaging with certain groups, posts, people, etc...)
case 6: This kind of marketing existed even before the internet was even a thing. In certain places, if you look wealthy you will, for example, get a different menu in a restaurant. The problem isn't the data they use to execute it but the fact that this kind of marketing is legal(online or offline). While it might seem unfair, I don't see it as a privacy violation + if you don't know it's happening then are you really affected by it?
Case 7: valid case, bad example. Those health records were most likely entered into the system by your doctor and not you directly. I don't think there is much you as a patient could do to stop that.
None of the above cases have anything to do with browsers in particular. If you willingly chose to upload your photos, fill out your Facebook profile, or connect a camera to the internet then even the most private browser is not going to change anything.
@@user-yh9gh4lq6u valid point, but doesn't affect people "that have nothing to hide". They are only interested in specific keywords and while you could make the argument that some keywords can be good or bad depending on context it's also not as black and white as you think. If you truly have nothing to hide then both you and law enforcement just wasted a bunch of time and money if they decide to pull the trigger based on a single out of context keyword. And if you do have things to hide then stop lying to yourself
a lot of words from someone who completely missed the point.
Agree, taking sensitive photos with device connected to the internet was a problem there, not using this particular cloud
@@alxioo but it's the cloud that collects data and shares it, not a particular hAcKer
#5 is certainly related to your browser since it'll collect similar data.
If you don't care about privacy, let me check your phone right now
Sadly not even my friends would understand about internet privacy except myself.
"Just because I have nothing to hide, does not mean I approve of a camera installed in my bathroom" -Louis Rossmann
The government must've overheard Louis Rossmann.
Just the first example you gave about the poor dad caring about his child is reason enough for me to finally take care about my privacy and data.
This exact scenario is not specifically applicable to my current situation but something similar could happen to anyone, I took a photo of a industrial hemp field because, you know, it looks like a giant weed plantation to the untrained eye, or AI.
If the laws were harsher they would now have reason to issue a house search, I dont want that.
Not only that, but you don't know what innocent thing you do now could be frowned upon or even illegal in the future.
@@EricMurphyxyz exactly, we really created our own cyberpunk-dystopia because we we're too lazy and trusted the wrong companies
My trauma made me paranoid enough to basically not tell anyone anything about myself (like personal info) irl so when i started actually learning about the interenet after using it carelessly for so long i of course wanted to stay as private as possibly (while still being able to use it like i want to)
Damn, this is just what I needed. Been on the fence as to whether this is important to me or not.
It's worth keeping in mind that Facebook messenger will hand over your messages in eg abortion cases. I haven't seen any cases of Facebook WhatsApp metadata being used in such cases, but they will have that location data along with other meta data. They will know if you visited an abortion clinic on your "camping" trip.
I know abortion is a crime in many countries, but so many people forget that their private communication isn't private.
Well, i don't care about my privacy just bc i don't care, if google misuses my data, this isn't gonna change anything relevant on my life
The problem is not only about *WHO* you're sharing data with, but also *WHICH* data you decide to share...
Ex 1. Do not take (or save) pictures you're not ready to be exposed nor do not put a video camera in your bedroom or toilet (unless you don't mind to be streamed on internet)
Ex 2. Don't say stuff you might regret (even on the most privacy frienly social netwok).
Ex 3. Don't do anything that may put you in trouble (even the most privacy friendly strorage system will have to obey to the law if requested. Even the most privacy friendly system could be hacked ... ).
Etc.
... And when you really need to do one of this stuff: use the right tools ! Don't do it on your computer (do it in a disposable VM for exemple), don't do it while linked with *any* account (or create fake ones), don't do it on your personal network (but use Tor or use an open wifi network), ...
Well so much for free speech then.
THEY are watching you everywhere. You can worry, but you can't hide.
This opened my eyes. I didn't know tech companies could be that irresponsible.
People should be more aware of Privacy and Cybersecurity, especially in indonesia where biillions of private data like id , phone number, and etc, leaked every years
its insane to me that this isn't the default position of everyone.
the others are basically sheep, what do you expect
Admitting you did something wrong is scary stuff, apparently. But using a service that let's someone else spy on your kids? Totally guilt free.
The world is beyond hope.
it was the default until there was something to gain by contradicting it. people dont want to change their normal way of behaving, so if you tell them to stop using chrome, they have to start coming up with reasons why it is justified, rather than take an objective approach.
Welcome to the NPC world. War is peace, freedom is slavery, and ignorance is strength.
@@Always.SmarterWhen I was a teenager on the dialup internet it was common sense to not give out your information. You were constantly told to never use your real name.
This. This video really and truly broke down why privacy is so important. To hear these real life situations and how they played out really puts things into perspective. Great video man, I really hope it blows up in the algo and more people see it
Even the most benign data in the wrong hands could be used to hurt you
And, in reality, it often does.
Most encrypted messaging apps are on an app watch list. These lists are used by law enforcement and other government agencies to automatically identify accounts that may be involved in suspicious behaviour.
Sadly I blame myself for still using TH-cam. Even though we have to use it to get the information out. When I first registered my YT account back 2006, it wasn't even owned by Google yet.
But you joined 5 years ago?
@@Twtgod no, it was another account, it was deleted because of "hate speech" all the way in 2013.
@@Michael-it6gb Oh that's ridiculous.
It would be great if you could also make a tierlist of email services that respect your privacy more. 🙏
The #1 most privacy-respecting service is rolling your own ;)
Working on it right now :)
Generally, Europe and in particular Germany and Switzerland have stricter laws regarding your private space.
If it comes from China or the US, you are the product, not the item you bought or the software you installed.
@@EricMurphyxyzwould StartMail be a good option?
@@krollpeter As a Swissman, I would like to warn everyone that the CIA has many outfits in Switzerland posing as private companies selling "privacy" services. Not that long ago a company called Crypto AG was ratted out has a CIA front, I bet others are too. Our government is deeply corrupted by the US.
As for Germany, their are part of the 14 eyes and are military occupied by the USA, I wouldn't trust them.
When Lizard Face (Facebook owner) made a change to Whatsapp and said (in short) "give us access to everything on your phone or you can't use Whatsapp" then I removed it and never went back. If anyone want something from me and does not have Signal, then they can text me. Also I heard a new quote about privacy, "I have nothing to hide but still, when I take a sh#t I close the doors to the bathroom".
Imagine you having a stalker and voluntarily giving him your information, like where you live where you work, what you do in your freetime, what hobbies do you have, etc. It is unsettling to say the least.
This is honestly probably one of the best videos advocating for privacy, no philosophical bullshit. Just clear plain examples of what happens and what can go wrong with all the access to data all at the expense of you
I think the main reason why I am not ok with this nothing to hide idea is the fact that they collect information about you and you are not collecting about them. I now days and age knowledge is power. You don't need a gun to end someone and this intrusive privacy breach is definitely not fair disbalance. They simply can do to you what they want and there is not much that you can do about it.
love the fact that you're making people aware of these tech conglomerates not being as safe as it would seem. kudos!
Just found your channel and it was such an unexpected surprise. You provide a content that I didn't even realize I needed. Congrats and keep up the great work :)
P.S. Could you make a video on how to have more privacy on the smartphones, giving options for services like e-mail, mobile browsers, cloud services, etc.? It would be extremely useful!
the sad part about that edward snowden quote is that it relies on people valuing freedom of speech, which many seem not to. they might think they have nothing to say because they dont say slurs, which is, in their mind, the only thing free speech is meant to protect.
I don't have anything to hide either but at this point it's going way beyond that, it's not going only about privacy, it's about freedom at this point
Idk why but when caring about privacy somewhat I tend to get less ads when I'm not using the adblocker compared to my friends
To be fair, facial recognition case was a misfire, and cameras will scan you anyway and mistake for someone else, you feed them your photo or not, so it's not the privacy issue but rather AI scanning problem and public space legislations. Google photos was automatic system misfire, and although it's wasn't nice, but you explained that owner had automatic google upload feature on his device, so it's kinda like saying that youtube intruded in your private life by banning you, when you uploaded video of your naked child. Though dad may not be introduced to technology in proper manner, being victim, but on the other hand we still send to prison people who claim that they didn't know that killing is illegal. So if you accidentally send sensitive data because you didn't understand technology, well, that's on you. Employees spying IS a privacy breach, if it's not a feature though, but that's why companies paying for its' mistake - it's not supposed to happen. Companies aren't interested in scamming it's users, because mostly people have no real value to offer to the company, for them wanting to attack you personally. You are too little for them, and even if your life gets destroyed, it wasn't the goal of the company, it doesn't gain anything from it, it's just misfire. But if you predict your financial growth in the future, you can start to worry about privacy beforehand, since after success you will be individually targeted by discrete criminal groups, who may have access to your personal data. And doing so will expire already accumulated web data, since it will be invalid. If you're not rich, no matter how good you are with privacy, you won't have enough means to defend yourself, if real criminal subjects will want to mess with you specifically.
Hello, it's me again. I can truly understand your frustration. Every time I mention to my classmates that I use Brave or Hardened Firefox, they respond in the same way xD
The thing is... If someone was an actual pervert they would likely be smart enough to IDK use offline phones to take horrible pictures and hell maybe even go low tech.
Best argument for privacy I've ever seen. Just raw, practical value.
"Be careful about sharing your face online" -man currently recording his face online
Any human who have lived has experienced conflict of interest. Someone wants something that you don’t want. Information is power,surrendering privacy is surrendering power and letting someone else have their way over you. Someone else gets the job, gets the promotion, gets the loan, gets some urge met, gets some benefit etc
Another thing that really bothers me about all the data tracking is how much energy it wastes. I can't even imagine the power consumption of all those servers combined.
Edit: it also negatively effects the battery life of our devices. I turned off a bunch of background network features on my 4 year old phone such as talking to wifi networks even when wifi is off, or the same with bluetooth, as well as disabling the voice assistant. My phone now lasts me a very long day, very comfortably despite having a relatively small and old battery. (galaxy note 10)
i can find words to describe thanks to you > finaly find a guy speak what i want say for mounths
All this AI data scraping going around is the final nail in the coffin for me. Just goes to show how these companies aren't afraid of being as blood sucking as possible.
I am not a person who cares too much about privacy so I was intrigued to see what Eric had to say in this video and he managed to convince me: If you are like me and don't care if someone spies on you while you sleep or knows where you parked your car and you have no kids or anything like that, the thing that I feel could convince anyone to stop using these mainstream tech products is wanting to not get cheated on and to be treated equally and fairly. Because you heard it folks: tech giants will not play fair and nice with your data. They *will* manipulate you with what they know about you, first chance they get and with the amount of data they harvest daily, they get plenty of chances.
Chrome or even google photos is one thing, but people putting microphones and cameras like alexa and ring willingly into their own homes - and even paying for the privilege - is just insanity. Never mind our phones are already listening in as much as they are, you want to give them full surround sound of your house - and a video feed to go along with it?
What phone do you use may I ask? Could apply the same argument there
It really feels like two worlds to me. There are so many people who can't or choose not to see all the problems with this data harvesting economy. And then there's people who do care about their online privacy, who must sound like tin-foil hats to the first group. I'm sure that big tech propaganda must have contributed to this, but it is nonetheless striking...
a comment that's actually made sense to me in a while when it comes to this kind of stuff
i genuinely understand where these people are coming from, but i goofed up once by faking my name for an ACTUAL phone company, and i screwed up a phone plan and my mum got mad at me (let's just say i am not of legal age to get a phone plan as of now)
but yeah it is sucky cuz privacy is something i do value, but i hate that if i delve into this content, it feels *mildly* extremist
There's two sides. Those who've been affected by it, and those who haven't. And if they have, they really wish they hadn't.
"I used to use facebook and twitter" not using facebook and twitter is not only good for your privacy but good for you as a person
preach
I'm crazy and over share everything that's not legally binding. This video is changing my mind.
Here's another vote of thanks on all your content. Your linux content got my attention and now getting a lot more. Keep up the good work!
went apartment hunting one time
looking to board with people for a reasonable rate to save money
"oh we have a smart house with cameras in every room"
nope!
I do agree that people should be allowed to have privacy and I hope the info in this video is useful to those looking to be more private, however I gotta be honest none of these examples even apply to me
Still wracking my mind about the fact that some people didn't think it was enough to let Amazon into their home via Alexa, but also needed to let Amazon's eyes in via Ring. How do these people survive day to day without forgetting to breathe?? Why is the regardation so widespread??
"I have nothing to hide mfs" when you ask them for their phone number, home adress and browsing history
I use Startpage from now on, bro, privacy is as important as freedom of speech
Just imagine the people who don't care about privacy end up getting a job where they rely on HIPPA or FERPA. That will not be the right job for them.
Lots of people are willingly bugged their own homes and call it "smart homes"