Thanks Neville. Great stuff. Good old Chris. Certificate Of Competence Level 1 Bender Course and signed by Dave and John. "It'll be on Ebay next week". 😂😂 Just brillant. They have done an incredible job to get all those stringers removed off Janes port wing. Totally agree with John how engineering in this country has gone down the pan. Such a shame. Having to get the stringers made in the USA. Like Keith said two to three thousand for each one plus shipping. A huge sum of money. It's good that we still have people like John, Keith, Dave and the rest of the gang who have the knowledge and skill to make so many different parts for the aircraft and in doing so are able to keep these traditions going and not allowing them to fade away like so much has in this country. They truely are a fantastic bunch who are a credit to the museum and to the restoration program. Well done guys. Really enjoyable again Neville and thank you and am looking forward to your next update. Best wishes to you and to everybody at the centre. Take care.👍
It's good to see that Gwen has found her way to East Kirkby - I met her in February when I was visiting and working with The Vintage Aviator team at Masterton, NZ, and she said she was coming to the UK. She's a real enthusiast and has the drive to become an excellent aircraft engineer.
In production, the Ribs and Fuselage Formers would have been cut to shape using a Bench Router and pressed to form using a hydraulic "Rubber Press", The wooden formers you see would be positioned on the bed of the press and the pre-cut details laid on the formers using locating pins. The top moving part of the press held a 3 inch thick sheet of rubber and the hydraulics brought the two faces together. The rubber formed itself around the formers and at the same time folded the sheet metal to the former shape. Usually the wooden formers were made from "Tufnel" as this had better wear and compression quallities. Fairey Aviation had two of these presses at Hayes operating at 150 tons. Hope this helps.
I can’t believe I’ve been watching these videos for 7 years! Great to see Gwen volunteering. We need more women in Aircraft maintenance. The whole time I was working on Boeing planes at the Alliance Maintenance Base there were only 3 that I worked with.
Another cracking video Nev again mate many thanks. Ol Chris is chuffed to bits with his Certificate and so he should be like the others he puts his heart and soul into his work.I would love to see this laser welder being used on NX 611,i wonder what the engineers of the 40s would think if they could see that.Again Nev many thanks for your updates,take care.
To have a Master Bender like Dave is great, but, to have Chris as a SECOND Master Bender is amazing. As a Journeyman bender myself I can truly appreciate their skills.
Hi Nev' . Great content .....as always , and a well deserved reward for Chris !!!! It was a very busy shop Neville and l wonder how many compressors it takes to feed all those air tools ? At a guess at least 3 hydrovanes . Thanks to everyone !
I must say Mr. Wheeldon's videography over the years documenting the work done at the Lincolnshire Aviation Heritage Centre one can see he's really part of the team (& an important one.. )! His efforts certainly have not only raised awareness of the work done there, but has enormous & unique educational value as well (of the restoring & preserving of WW2 relics) 😘! Best wishes to him & all those that support his efforts..
It getting harder to make things for engineering in the UK Think we had generations of mechanical engineers who made things for Britain and the world. Thank goodness we have the skills in the team there to make things happen!
ALUMINIUM SHAPES of Corby manufacture aluminium extrusion .A British owned company . British companies are still out there in the UK guys maybe they can help . 😊
One of the Utoob channels I follow has a laser for cleaning metal before welding but this laser welder sure sounds interesting. Great all round video bro and a high 5 for Chris the bender. Safe travels. Ken.
Companies must be approved and authorised by the CAA in order to supply materials and parts. It is a detailed process to gain this approval. Welders also need a CAA approval. You cannot just get someone to bodge it and scarper. All work must be to approved drawings.
Have a look at Architectural Products Limited here in NZ (Hamilton & Cambridge) for your aluminium extrusions. I think you will find them very accomodating. They ship all over but mainly to Australia.
@@davidmartyn5044 Hi David - It will be very similar if not cheaper. Distance is not an issue so much as the number of port interventions and NZ ships a lot of produce to Europe and the UK. I think a query to APL will be worth a try. They do a wide range of aluminium extrusions and the assembly of these to windows etc. for both NZ and Aust, maybe even for Europe. There will be a minimum order - have heard 1000ft but that might fit your order anyway.- and a die cost as well.
Thanks Nev. Can the stringers not be made out of box section & flat plate? That or put a strip of ali behind the holes & use longer rivets? The strips could be welded or tacked every 6" or so. Hopefully there's an economical solution.
To obtain Civil Aviation Authority approval for flight, the structure must conform to the original AVRO design specifications. Minor variations may be approved in non critical areas, subject to qualified aeronautical engineering redesign, but the wings are critical structures. So, as per AVRO drawings of she don't fly!
The original estimate was 10 years (currently year 7) but as work has progressed, much of the existing structure has been found to be unusable for flight status due to corrosion and previous poor repair work. Each time they open up a structure, like the wing, it's a can of worms! Realistically, the timescale is 'as long as it takes'.
Hi David ,please watch video 225/7 this will explain what is going on. Click on this link Video 225 th-cam.com/video/BP45749g0mE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=6v_2sep6Bx9gWAOd • Video 227 Restoration of Lancaster NX... .th-cam.com/video/qvWDSJfohTk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=YJj7nBRP7whq3bFU
Thanks Neville. Great stuff. Good old Chris. Certificate Of Competence Level 1 Bender Course and signed by Dave and John. "It'll be on Ebay next week". 😂😂 Just brillant. They have done an incredible job to get all those stringers removed off Janes port wing. Totally agree with John how engineering in this country has gone down the pan. Such a shame. Having to get the stringers made in the USA. Like Keith said two to three thousand for each one plus shipping. A huge sum of money. It's good that we still have people like John, Keith, Dave and the rest of the gang who have the knowledge and skill to make so many different parts for the aircraft and in doing so are able to keep these traditions going and not allowing them to fade away like so much has in this country. They truely are a fantastic bunch who are a credit to the museum and to the restoration program. Well done guys. Really enjoyable again Neville and thank you and am looking forward to your next update. Best wishes to you and to everybody at the centre. Take care.👍
It's good to see that Gwen has found her way to East Kirkby - I met her in February when I was visiting and working with The Vintage Aviator team at Masterton, NZ, and she said she was coming to the UK. She's a real enthusiast and has the drive to become an excellent aircraft engineer.
In production, the Ribs and Fuselage Formers would have been cut to shape using a Bench Router and pressed to form using a hydraulic "Rubber Press", The wooden formers you see would be positioned on the bed of the press and the pre-cut details laid on the formers using locating pins. The top moving part of the press held a 3 inch thick sheet of rubber and the hydraulics brought the two faces together. The rubber formed itself around the formers and at the same time folded the sheet metal to the former shape. Usually the wooden formers were made from "Tufnel" as this had better wear and compression quallities. Fairey Aviation had two of these presses at Hayes operating at 150 tons. Hope this helps.
I can’t believe I’ve been watching these videos for 7 years! Great to see Gwen volunteering. We need more women in Aircraft maintenance. The whole time I was working on Boeing planes at the Alliance Maintenance Base there were only 3 that I worked with.
Another cracking video Nev again mate many thanks. Ol Chris is chuffed to bits with his Certificate and so he should be like the others he puts his heart and soul into his work.I would love to see this laser welder being used on NX 611,i wonder what the engineers of the 40s would think if they could see that.Again Nev many thanks for your updates,take care.
To have a Master Bender like Dave is great, but, to have Chris as a SECOND Master Bender is amazing. As a Journeyman bender myself I can truly appreciate their skills.
Hi Nev' . Great content .....as always , and a well deserved reward for Chris !!!! It was a very busy shop Neville and l wonder how many compressors it takes to feed all those air tools ? At a guess at least 3 hydrovanes . Thanks to everyone !
Excellent update Neville!
Great video Nev! Good to see Keith and John angling for a laser welder and smiling too! Good luck with that one. Great banter from Chris and co
I must say Mr. Wheeldon's videography over the years documenting the work done at the Lincolnshire Aviation Heritage Centre one can see he's really part of the team (& an important one.. )! His efforts certainly have not only raised awareness of the work done there, but has enormous & unique educational value as well (of the restoring & preserving of WW2 relics) 😘! Best wishes to him & all those that support his efforts..
It getting harder to make things for engineering in the UK Think we had generations of mechanical engineers who made things for Britain and the world. Thank goodness we have the skills in the team there to make things happen!
ALUMINIUM SHAPES of Corby manufacture aluminium extrusion .A British owned company . British companies are still out there in the UK guys maybe they can help . 😊
Give Marshall aerospace in Cambridge UK a call about making parts for the wings.
Thank you Neville, always nice to catchup with everything that has been happening recently
Thanks, Neville! Your team there are awesome, Jane's in very capable hands! They're also refining ways that things are done. Thanks Todd care!
I'd love to see a Beluga popping into EK to drop off the latest parts. 🤣
Thanks for another great update Neville
One of the Utoob channels I follow has a laser for cleaning metal before welding but this laser welder sure sounds interesting. Great all round video bro and a high 5 for Chris the bender. Safe travels. Ken.
Companies must be approved and authorised by the CAA in order to supply materials and parts. It is a detailed process to gain this approval. Welders also need a CAA approval.
You cannot just get someone to bodge it and scarper. All work must be to approved drawings.
Nice one Neville... I think someone likes laser welders... Lol. Thanks Neville 👍 👍 👍 👍
Thanks Neville, also off to watch the laser welding videos! Sounds great!
Me too. Great bit of kit aren't they?
Thanks Nev, great show, im off to see some Laser welding vids ..........
Thanks Nev!
Thank you Neville. I look forward to saturdays updates. What a team. :-)
Level One Master Bender...eh!!
Plus certification.....eeeh....no limits then...😅😊
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Have a look at Architectural Products Limited here in NZ (Hamilton & Cambridge) for your aluminium extrusions. I think you will find them very accomodating. They ship all over but mainly to Australia.
So how much would the shipping be from NZ as opposed to the US?
@@davidmartyn5044 Hi David - It will be very similar if not cheaper. Distance is not an issue so much as the number of port interventions and NZ ships a lot of produce to Europe and the UK. I think a query to APL will be worth a try. They do a wide range of aluminium extrusions and the assembly of these to windows etc. for both NZ and Aust, maybe even for Europe. There will be a minimum order - have heard 1000ft but that might fit your order anyway.- and a die cost as well.
Thanks Nev. Can the stringers not be made out of box section & flat plate? That or put a strip of ali behind the holes & use longer rivets? The strips could be welded or tacked every 6" or so. Hopefully there's an economical solution.
To obtain Civil Aviation Authority approval for flight, the structure must conform to the original AVRO design specifications. Minor variations may be approved in non critical areas, subject to qualified aeronautical engineering redesign, but the wings are critical structures. So, as per AVRO drawings of she don't fly!
great video again just one questionare they managing to keep to a timetable to get her completed thanks alan
The original estimate was 10 years (currently year 7) but as work has progressed, much of the existing structure has been found to be unusable for flight status due to corrosion and previous poor repair work. Each time they open up a structure, like the wing, it's a can of worms! Realistically, the timescale is 'as long as it takes'.
Possibly silly question - if NX611 is evidently in tiny pieces, being restored, which Lancaster is doing taxi runs?
Hi David ,please watch video 225/7 this will explain what is going on. Click on this link Video 225 th-cam.com/video/BP45749g0mE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=6v_2sep6Bx9gWAOd • Video 227 Restoration of Lancaster NX... .th-cam.com/video/qvWDSJfohTk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=YJj7nBRP7whq3bFU
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