nicely described, succinct. so much of Dwarf Fortress automation is truly best described as, "this number is arbitrary and mostly roleplay related, anyways, here is the exact mathematical steps to arrive at a meaningful result."
A note: Putnam has clarified on a Bay12 forum post (topic=180689.msg8448153) that while farming on non-cavern soil results in poor soil, muddied stone doesn't suffer from the same de-buff. Only soil (clay, sand, etc.) does; even if the soil is muddied. From a quick test, it appears that not only is muddied natural stone fine (does not display 'poor soil' message--and confirmed by Putnam to be okay), but muddied constructed floors of any type (logs/blocks, stone, metal) do not display 'poor soil' either. So you'd be best off constructing floors and irrigating them (if in a soil layer), or simply moving your farms down to a stone layer and irrigating them there. Irrigation may be a bit tricky, depending on how you do it, however, it's absolutely worth it if it means bypassing the giant efficiency loss.
Also, above ground farms do not appear to be affected by soil quality! So consider farming above ground if possible; the plants grow in all seasons and have far greater variety and usefulness. However, the specific types you get are heavily dependent on your embark region. Securing an above ground farm is also as simple as channeling a large area on the surface and placing floor overtop it. The tiles below are still considered above ground tiles and can only grow above ground crops. I've found great success in this method of farming for booze, food, paper, and especially clothing (rope reeds, hemp, and cotton are amazing), though there are few dye plants, they're rare and region specific, and some are not as valuable (hide root), so dimple cups are a more consistent bet. Great tutorial, by the way!
I dunno. I flooded a room with constructed floor tiles to 1-2 depth and let the water evaporate. On half of my 1x7 farm plots I got soil with no penalties, and on others I got Poor Soil x% where x was something like 14 or 28. So maybe it works but there must be some other factors involved.
Man you put a lot more thought into this than my 10x10 farm plot and just "process plants when processable plants >o" jobs. I wonder I end up with 10,000 cloth laying around.
See this is why I just buy all of our food and clothing in exchange for the stuff we give up. So what a couple dwarves are nude or got tattered clothes, we got a tavern and a functioning millitary! We got more food and drink in our stores than what we know to do with.
I'm wish they add to conditions "items only from linked stockpiles" modifier, so many things are just frustrating in this game yet so many others are great.
Yeah agreed. But also some people claim that its part of the gameplay. Technically you could automate or add QoL features but it would strip the game bare of gameplay. I dont know what would be a good balance.
No, this math doesn't create surplus to sell. He was showing work order for 60 units of caps while he had 116 dwarves. His calculations are made to ensure almost half of population always get new clothes. You need like 40% more of that to create a surplus to sell.
nicely described, succinct. so much of Dwarf Fortress automation is truly best described as, "this number is arbitrary and mostly roleplay related, anyways, here is the exact mathematical steps to arrive at a meaningful result."
A note: Putnam has clarified on a Bay12 forum post (topic=180689.msg8448153) that while farming on non-cavern soil results in poor soil, muddied stone doesn't suffer from the same de-buff. Only soil (clay, sand, etc.) does; even if the soil is muddied. From a quick test, it appears that not only is muddied natural stone fine (does not display 'poor soil' message--and confirmed by Putnam to be okay), but muddied constructed floors of any type (logs/blocks, stone, metal) do not display 'poor soil' either. So you'd be best off constructing floors and irrigating them (if in a soil layer), or simply moving your farms down to a stone layer and irrigating them there. Irrigation may be a bit tricky, depending on how you do it, however, it's absolutely worth it if it means bypassing the giant efficiency loss.
Also, above ground farms do not appear to be affected by soil quality! So consider farming above ground if possible; the plants grow in all seasons and have far greater variety and usefulness. However, the specific types you get are heavily dependent on your embark region. Securing an above ground farm is also as simple as channeling a large area on the surface and placing floor overtop it. The tiles below are still considered above ground tiles and can only grow above ground crops. I've found great success in this method of farming for booze, food, paper, and especially clothing (rope reeds, hemp, and cotton are amazing), though there are few dye plants, they're rare and region specific, and some are not as valuable (hide root), so dimple cups are a more consistent bet. Great tutorial, by the way!
I dunno. I flooded a room with constructed floor tiles to 1-2 depth and let the water evaporate. On half of my 1x7 farm plots I got soil with no penalties, and on others I got Poor Soil x% where x was something like 14 or 28. So maybe it works but there must be some other factors involved.
Yeh this needs to be tested. Maybe depends on mud amount?
just use pits and buckets
Producing yearly is a really nice trick, thanks ! I always had trouble with old clothes messing with my work orders. 😁
Man you put a lot more thought into this than my 10x10 farm plot and just "process plants when processable plants >o" jobs. I wonder I end up with 10,000 cloth laying around.
I forever prefer your tutorials! I needed a refresher on some of these industries stockpile linking and yours were so succinct
See this is why I just buy all of our food and clothing in exchange for the stuff we give up. So what a couple dwarves are nude or got tattered clothes, we got a tavern and a functioning millitary! We got more food and drink in our stores than what we know to do with.
Great tutorials! I've been playing for years but still learn from your videos.
Im loving these tutorials, simple and easy to follow!
I'm wish they add to conditions "items only from linked stockpiles" modifier, so many things are just frustrating in this game yet so many others are great.
Yeah agreed. But also some people claim that its part of the gameplay. Technically you could automate or add QoL features but it would strip the game bare of gameplay. I dont know what would be a good balance.
@@HansWurst1569I just want clarity in things, so it's easier to diagnose issues. Not sure that's always possible, though.
Nice video man. Hope you can do food and drinks next since I always find myself overflowing with food or drinks.
This was way better then Blind.
nice dwarfen science I mean manufacturing research
Will you do guide on paper making and book making industry?
Neat little tutorial. Thank you!
great work
Does this math create a surplus to sell.
Second. How many dwarves are needed to create this many.
How many farmers, how many seamstresses
No, this math doesn't create surplus to sell. He was showing work order for 60 units of caps while he had 116 dwarves. His calculations are made to ensure almost half of population always get new clothes. You need like 40% more of that to create a surplus to sell.
Lov it waitin for more.
What do people do with old clothes? Are they generally solid to the traders?
could you also set up a jeweller and gem setter in to the system?
Can anyone tell me why I can't make loincloths?
*Promosm* 👉