@@ThinkingandTinkering Sir, I am in the United States. I believe that you are doing more to help those in need from this looming winter and energy crisis, than your own government. Or my government for that matter. Thank you.
Who needs fake geniuses pretending to help mankind when we have this guy!!! I’m his garage saving more people from cold this year than any well known philanthropist we haven’t stopped hearing about this past three years!
Floral foam comes in two main varieties - Oasis - which holds fluid as shown and Sahara which does not. Be sure to get the right one. Never thought I'd be sharing information I learned in my first job 30+ years ago.
The mark of a Master, he just made something so simple yet so efficient and instead of trying to market it he just wanted to share the absolute joy he is feeling about how and why it works, so we can feel the same.
This is awesome Rob! The more I think about it the more I love it. A lot less loss of fuel due to escaping fumes as well. Less fuel loss from evaporation that doesn't get burned. All in all a great design.
I think without doubt, you definitely did make the world's safest heater, or burner. Pure genius and so simple, and that's the real genius part! Well done!
This is fantastic! I am going to impliment this feature into the design of my workshop methanol heater. Been working on it some more today, almost finished, but now I have this addition to add to it. Thanks!
I swear you read my mind...i was litteraly just thinking over the last week was I really wish I could find a safer way to hav my extra/emergancy heat this winter...and you nailed it wow I will let you know how mine works...niw back to your show...thanks again. You really help even in just lifting spirits let alone the practical side
True engineering, find a problem, create a solution, and what a genius solution it is, thus will definitely be keeping many TH-camrs from worrying about some of the dangers 👍
I am off to the Philippines in about two weeks and at the moment I and at the moment I live in a 6 foot by 6 foot cabin God knows how you guys are all not going to freeze to death this winter.
Excellent. I now know how to make an economy safety heater and the principles behind the Davey Lamp which I often wondered about. I like a man who enjoys his work.
My son bought a fire blanket once when he was working on his car which now lives under my sink. Am I the only one who now also wants their own work shop? Love these videos they are fascinating! I hope I never need to use any of the knowledge I've learned but if the grid does go down thank you in advance for being so generous with your time and wisdom! If you ever feel the need to write a book I would like to be one of the first on your list to buy it because the frightening thing is we have a generation that are going to be a bit lost without Google and the knowledge your sharing is priceless. Much respect!
Too large to replace a Trangia burner at camp but it does solve a major problem with liquid-fueled stoves. TIP-OVER. I am not sure yet exactly what I will do with this unit. However, watching this video only one time compels me to build one. Thank you for posting this and I now need to whack that subscribe button.
Why I love you??? You saying "It needs some weight" Made me see that, I can use magnets to hold everything in place, and cheaper mantle material for a current 'fishing heater' build I'm working on. Tysm.
Oh Rob! You done it. This is a safe it can be you can take a tin-can put it in a pot on the stove! And every man and women can cook heat on the stove! then the planed electric stop come in winter! we don't need to freeze! Thanks Rob! I Just love it! 🥸/Mikael
I was just thinking of tuna cans! Maybe making a few holes in the top with one of those triangular shaped punches on the other end of a can opener we used to use to open up the big cans of pineapple juice. Içve used those forever and I still have no idea what those things are called! I saw another guy on TH-cam bend the triangle bits all the way in. Not only were they air holes, but they formed a little raised stand to set the pot on above the flame.
@@colleenforrest7936 The ones that had the round end on one side and the pointed end on the other we called bottle openers. The one's with the crank we called can openers. And since the pointed tool is used to open cans, it's a can opener.
@@scotttovey the rounded ones open the bottles and the crank can openers open that cans, but the pointy ones put the triangle holes in the lids so you can pour liquid out. Just wondering if those had an official name other than just calling those can openers too
The appliance....of Science. Well done mate, that is such a simple but brilliant concept, I can see so many safety applications for us pyrotechnic experimenters :)
Very small chickens😁 A great contribution for not burning down your dwelling. This mesh is proving very handy. If my mesh were of a finer grade would that mean I was holier than thou🤔🥰
I added a "catalytic copper wick ", I found by putting an upright tube of copper mesh on the safety screen (scaled like a Bday cake) after it heated up it attracted the flame and changed the shape and colour of it to like a really really deep gloomy orange lantern light plus when the flame is blown out the copper/ethanol catalytic reaction kept it glowing and put it into a standby/economy heat mode . So for times say when your solo camping in the cold or in a car for the winter, yep, no flame.....
The penny can stove is a blue flame cooking device made from a pop can, I have made some in different sizes, they can boil a 1/2 pint of water in a few minutes with no nast fumes. Again alcohol is the fuel.
Love your channel sir. I have found most people with your level of intelligence have a difficult time explaining things in a way that non academic types can understand. You on the other hand, make the topics both understandable and entertaining.
Humphrey Davy safety screen is a technology used to make all electrical equipment explosion proof. Originally used in mines for lamps; going back to an 1815 invention. It really is unbelievable how well it works - excellent demonstration - Rob!
There is much to learn from your videos. Perhaps one day some kind soul will donate a "BBQ lighter with a flex line" to the cause, while you still have both hands in tact. Thanks for sharing. Greetings from Ontario, Canada.
Clever. Sure, any open flame is some risk but that negates the serious risk of a burner tipping over, remaining lit and spreading the whole tank of fuel.
This is like that old show "Art Attack" but with making useful stuff. You even remind me of the old host of that show and have the same style of preparing your builds ahead of time.
really nice! would small slits angled in get the vortex act? a mesh cup chimney would obviously do wonders. tuna cans have a stamped lip for stacking, if the mesh is close enough for exploiting that stamped lip.
Inspiring video as always! I made a close approximation of this, except my reservoir section was filled with ceramic fibre topped with a disc of carbon felt then the stainless mesh. The initial burn was strong but controlled, presumably by the mesh. It then died down to a low blue flame for the majority of the rest of the burn. Not ideal for my use case (a reasonably decorative room heater), perhaps my can was too tall and narrow for efficient wicking. Love the safety flame concept but the search goes on for my consistent controlled burn.
Wow! That's a home run in all aspects. My mind is thinking if you can get solar and a Stirling on a full burning stove you can replace an internal combustion in efficiency and it would drop the weight of a vehicle. There is fancy engineering with glass which would allow light to pass to solar. I am itching to try it but have a lot going on in my life. So if you want to look at that go for it.
Could you create something that would be like a wood burner in the house, but with no smoke? Basically a cheap alternative to spending £thousands on a wood burner
I've been working on it for a long time. All I've come up with is using a small camp stove and running the stovepipe out a window. I used to install the real ones for a living. I've got a wonderful little woodburner that I bought new for less than $300 US. Enough stovepipe and a damper would run you maybe $75-100 more. You'd need to purchase a purpose made fireback and hearth or produce the same with available materials (think stone slabs/concrete wall backing...). There's just no real cheap and safe way to burn wood. PS the trick to not getting smoke is to light a paper log or some such thing and hold it up in the flue for a good thirty seconds before lighting the stove in order to warm up the flue and start a good draft going. Voila! No smoke. Oh, and use only very dry seasoned wood.
@@ThinkingandTinkering thank you Robert. Just watched your new video with the box on the rocket stove. It's great 😄. Keep up the good work, love the videos 👍
It’s all a bit dangerous but useful in an emergency. CO and CO2 are a potential danger, plus particulates in the air if you burn the wrong fuel. Then there is the risk of setting fire to the curtains, the open 5l bottle of alcohol etc! We heat with a properly installed 8kW wood burner which provides enough heat so we won’t be using the central heating this winter. With an air inlet and sealed flue none of the nasties get into the air we breathe. Obviously this doesn’t work for everyone- you need a free/cheap source for the wood, but it works for us.
1:55 be aware that Oasis is essentialy foamy Bakelite without a filler, it's phenol-formaldehyde foam. Make sure that it cannot get to the decomposition temperature, or it can release formaldehyde vapor.
That is awesom. It makes me think of all the people over the world who've accidentally gotten burned by cook fires and forest fires started when something went out of hand Hope this gets out as an idea to folks.
What if you had a jar with a large diameter metal lid. It uses copper mesh and about five holes in the lid. One in the center for a bolt. On this bolt is two wooden wheels. Holes two holes on the side of the bolt line up with the three hole in each wood wheel. Then two more holes on the outer edge of where the wooded wheels are. The wooden wheels have the copper mesh tacked on to make a cylinder going up to the top of the lid so air can escape. Then two holes in the bottom of the bottom wheel have pipes going to the top of the lid along the outer edge. Inside the jar is a small carbon felt with a steel sheet acting like a spring to hold it against the wall of the jar. In the bottom is your acetone or methanol. The copper sheet should be pre heat treated to make an oxide layer on the outer wall of the mesh. This is done by heating the copper mesh against the bottom of a pot or pan to keep the copper mesh from melting or getting to hot so only the catalytic oxide layer is formed. Once assembled put about a few ounces of acetone in the bottom of the jar. Preheat the mesh a little bit but not too much. Put the lid and assembly back on. If it was made right it should catalyze the acetone and draw fresh air in through the bottom by convection. Though feel free to tell me how this idea is flawed. Because it is just a planning stage.
I think it is an awesome idea mate - it's difficult to comment on ideas as the real issues one in the practicalities - the devil is in the detail as they say
I've been thinking about the foamy stuff inside of a sunflower stalk as an alternative wicking material. It does a pretty good job for the plant. Won't know till next year though. I have to plant some and let the squirles get to the seeds first :) Not sure if it only works if it's not broken down or if it's powdered will it still have enough wicking power to do a job. Science awaits.... Tinkering anyway. As a side note, you can also eat the powder and use it as flour. I haven't tried that yet either.
There is a video on TH-cam on people in the middle ages ( i dont know the name anymore...), where the man explained how they use to make wicks out of s grass like plant...maybe worth looking up...
All flames from all flammable materials have what's called a quenching diameter. Since the material itself doesn't burn, only the vapour generated by the heat applied, there is a finite space for each vapour through which the flame can't pass. Increase or diminish the diameter of the space and you can regulate the flame propagation. The principle is what Mr Davy used to put canaries out of work in coal mines. Maggy Thatcher was probably an admirer.
So you could probably modify the wicking arrangement with the carbon felt and a larger reservoir? How might one control the heat out put? Instead of moving the wick up and down, might it be more convenient to move a mantle? Perhaps a telescopic or sliding mantle.
I wonder if when the Oasis foam gets low on fuel in it will it then start to melt or burn itself? A candle wick without wax will burn up. One thing I have been thinking about doing is to source some of the Oasis and use it to cool carbon arc rods(tightly bound side by side) by filling it with distilled water. Evaporative cooling. Then lay on top of them battery carbon rod centers. Heat the top side, the Oasis cools the bottom side and see if that will produce current. I figure if the top layer of rods has a different impedance than the bottom rods then it may make a thermopile much like your paper and pencil one only larger. I don't know, but may be worth a try to find out as it would not be quite as fragile.
@@ThinkingandTinkering I may do it a bit later. Being a caretaker for my mother right now due to a cardiac event so it would be after things settle down. Thanks Rob!
Do you have to worry about co2 levels if you are burning it indoors? Once you have depleted the alchahol will you have to replace the foam or is it reusable? Could you use carbon felt as a Wick?
This guys TH-cam channel should be seen by every citicen of Ukraine. They have dire need for some alternative heating at the moment. I like 1700 or 1702 the heater with carbon felt and vegetable oil. This one here is better for the really flammable stuff like alcohol or petrol. I think I will try it with some denatured alcohol, foam from christmas arrangement and cooper mesh. I think I will also try one really small 3-4 cm with carbon felt instead of foam and I hope that it´s not to hot and melt the cooper mesh.
Welding Tip - when doing spot welds with a new rod hold the actual rod like a pencil near the work piece. Helps aim and control. Note - my welding is no better than yours but that tip made a real difference to me. Love the vids btw.
for sure mate -I avoided it because not everyone has the carbon felt - and you know what it is like - if I had included it loads of folks would have thought you needed it
Robert, I have maximum respect of you so the next sentence is without any irony or Sarcasm. Great job, you are a genius! Keep it up pal! 👍You are Awesome 😎. It would be great to have a oil burning version too. Do you think it could be accomplished by slightly modifying the wicking material or something 🤔?
This man single handedly saving people from the cold. Thank you.
cheers mate
@@ThinkingandTinkering Sir, I am in the United States. I believe that you are doing more to help those in need from this looming winter and energy crisis, than your own government. Or my government for that matter. Thank you.
Who needs fake geniuses pretending to help mankind when we have this guy!!! I’m his garage saving more people from cold this year than any well known philanthropist we haven’t stopped hearing about this past three years!
Floral foam comes in two main varieties - Oasis - which holds fluid as shown and Sahara which does not. Be sure to get the right one. Never thought I'd be sharing information I learned in my first job 30+ years ago.
I was wondering about this! Thank you.
Simply known as wet oasis as opposed to dry oasis.
I thought that's what that looked like.
Thanks
@TryNDoxMe I want to know about a carbon felt type ??? Any ideas ???
The mark of a Master, he just made something so simple yet so efficient and instead of trying to market it he just wanted to share the absolute joy he is feeling about how and why it works, so we can feel the same.
wow - cheers mate - it is so simple anyone who wants to can make it and you are quite right I love that
We’ve got to adopt this mindset globally. We’re awesome, why are we enslaving each other?
That is the best burner I've seen and I've seen a lot! Great job sir! Fantastic ingenuity! Well done.
cheers mate
These are the people to hang around . This should be on cable . Love your work good sir 🙏
wow - cheers mate
You have saved so many lives with this valuable video....Thank you, Clarksville Tennessee
cheers mate
This is awesome Rob! The more I think about it the more I love it. A lot less loss of fuel due to escaping fumes as well. Less fuel loss from evaporation that doesn't get burned. All in all a great design.
cheers mate
I think without doubt, you definitely did make the world's safest heater, or burner. Pure genius and so simple, and that's the real genius part! Well done!
This is fantastic! I am going to impliment this feature into the design of my workshop methanol heater. Been working on it some more today, almost finished, but now I have this addition to add to it. Thanks!
oh wow - awesome
Well done sir. Ingenuity at its finest.
cheers mate
Brilliant! I always enjoy your videos. I look forward to implementing your gift of this design into my own burners going forth. Cheers!
awesome
It just keeps getting better all the time! You amaze me! Thank you!
wow - thank you mate
So clever Rob. To coin a phrase - awesome!
lol - cheers mate
Robert
I'm so inspired by your demonstrations.
I had a wood stove for years.
If I only knew what I know now.
I would have kept it.
Love your videos.
cheers mate
I swear you read my mind...i was litteraly just thinking over the last week was I really wish I could find a safer way to hav my extra/emergancy heat this winter...and you nailed it wow I will let you know how mine works...niw back to your show...thanks again. You really help even in just lifting spirits let alone the practical side
True engineering, find a problem, create a solution, and what a genius solution it is, thus will definitely be keeping many TH-camrs from worrying about some of the dangers 👍
I hope so lol
the politician see no problem Then make 1.
Keep the UK warm this winter 😁👍🏆
We will!
I am off to the Philippines in about two weeks and at the moment I and at the moment I live in a 6 foot by 6 foot cabin God knows how you guys are all not going to freeze to death this winter.
for sure mate
No Day is a Day without your pod
Super safe and efficient
awesome mate - cheers
It is ideas like these that help me rest at night. Thank you so much
awesome
Excellent. I now know how to make an economy safety heater and the principles behind the Davey Lamp which I often wondered about. I like a man who enjoys his work.
A handle would be great to separate them and can we get one to run on a solid oil like Crisco or paraffin
give it a try mate
My son bought a fire blanket once when he was working on his car which now lives under my sink. Am I the only one who now also wants their own work shop? Love these videos they are fascinating! I hope I never need to use any of the knowledge I've learned but if the grid does go down thank you in advance for being so generous with your time and wisdom! If you ever feel the need to write a book I would like to be one of the first on your list to buy it because the frightening thing is we have a generation that are going to be a bit lost without Google and the knowledge your sharing is priceless. Much respect!
Too large to replace a Trangia burner at camp but it does solve a major problem with liquid-fueled stoves. TIP-OVER. I am not sure yet exactly what I will do with this unit. However, watching this video only one time compels me to build one. Thank you for posting this and I now need to whack that subscribe button.
Why I love you??? You saying "It needs some weight" Made me see that, I can use magnets to hold everything in place, and cheaper mantle material for a current 'fishing heater' build I'm working on. Tysm.
awesome mate - cheers
Some folks place a heavy clay pot on a stand above it on a simple rack. The clay becomes warm and radiates the heat evenly.
Oh Rob! You done it. This is a safe it can be you can take a tin-can put it in a pot on the stove! And every man and women can cook heat on the stove! then the planed electric stop come in winter! we don't need to freeze! Thanks Rob! I Just love it! 🥸/Mikael
cheers mate - I am sincerely glad you like it
That's totally cool Rob.
Soup and tuna cans would be an excellent use for these burners.
I was just thinking of tuna cans! Maybe making a few holes in the top with one of those triangular shaped punches on the other end of a can opener we used to use to open up the big cans of pineapple juice. Içve used those forever and I still have no idea what those things are called!
I saw another guy on TH-cam bend the triangle bits all the way in. Not only were they air holes, but they formed a little raised stand to set the pot on above the flame.
@@colleenforrest7936
The ones that had the round end on one side and the pointed end on the other we called bottle openers.
The one's with the crank we called can openers.
And since the pointed tool is used to open cans, it's a can opener.
@@scotttovey the rounded ones open the bottles and the crank can openers open that cans, but the pointy ones put the triangle holes in the lids so you can pour liquid out. Just wondering if those had an official name other than just calling those can openers too
oh yeah for sure
I think they're referred to as pierce-type can openers.
The appliance....of Science.
Well done mate, that is such a simple but brilliant concept, I can see so many safety applications for us pyrotechnic experimenters :)
awesome mate
Ah! I recognize a Davys Lamp when I see one! Dad was a coal miner. This made me smile.
Me tooooooo , shame I lost my collection of Davy lamps 😢.
Very small chickens😁
A great contribution for not burning down your dwelling. This mesh is proving very handy. If my mesh were of a finer grade would that mean I was holier than thou🤔🥰
lololol - I guess it would
I pray that everyone in Scotland Ireland Wales and England, Europe as well stay warm this winter.
Very good follow on from the ceiling burner I meant vortex heater 😂 good to see you are okay mate
lolol - I think ceiling burner is a pretty good description of the one mate lol
I added a "catalytic copper wick ", I found by putting an upright tube of copper mesh on the safety screen (scaled like a Bday cake) after it heated up it attracted the flame and changed the shape and colour of it to like a really really deep gloomy orange lantern light plus when the flame is blown out the copper/ethanol catalytic reaction kept it glowing and put it into a standby/economy heat mode . So for times say when your solo camping in the cold or in a car for the winter, yep, no flame.....
The penny can stove is a blue flame cooking device made from a pop can, I have made some in different sizes, they can boil a 1/2 pint of water in a few minutes with no nast fumes.
Again alcohol is the fuel.
Love your channel sir. I have found most people with your level of intelligence have a difficult time explaining things in a way that non academic types can understand. You on the other hand, make the topics both understandable and entertaining.
thank you , i do enjoy your teachings,
cheers mate
That is really crazy ! Wonderful ! Really cool !
I love your crazy ingenious ideas ! ;) Very well done Rob !
wow - cheers mate - from you that is praise indeed - all the best
Humphrey Davy safety screen is a technology used to make all electrical equipment explosion proof. Originally used in mines for lamps; going back to an 1815 invention. It really is unbelievable how well it works - excellent demonstration - Rob!
I agree mate - it's a very clever idea - the original one that is - I am just using it
@@ThinkingandTinkering Use it! It has saved millions of lives. And is used through out all industrial settings. 200 years and no patent.
Absolutely brilliant and very entertaining, thank you.
There is much to learn from your videos. Perhaps one day some kind soul will donate a "BBQ lighter with a flex line" to the cause, while you still have both hands in tact. Thanks for sharing. Greetings from Ontario, Canada.
great application Rob!
thank you mate
And the invention still keeps happening Excellent. just saw a Lukes's wind barrel short, I had to take a second look, I know that place. 😀
lol - yep! it was a while ago though
I love this man spirit
I enjoy he’s tutorials so much
I replicate your heater and make a drop test. It works like advertised 😃 good job
nice one mate - for folks wanting to see it here is a link th-cam.com/video/gTR6yiPW3OA/w-d-xo.html
I like the built in safety feature of this one Rob. Fool proof!
I doubt it mate - nothing if fool proof lol
@@ThinkingandTinkering 😊
Clever. Sure, any open flame is some risk but that negates the serious risk of a burner tipping over, remaining lit and spreading the whole tank of fuel.
yeah exactly - playing with fire always has risk - I am just trying to mitigate the obvious ones here
When you lifted up the middle piece in the beginning, it was like a magic!
I thought that was awesome when I first saw it!
Amazing.Thank You.
cheers mate
Thanks, friend.
I like this safe heater 🔥 and you put smile on my face when you laugh. 😊
This is like that old show "Art Attack" but with making useful stuff. You even remind me of the old host of that show and have the same style of preparing your builds ahead of time.
really nice! would small slits angled in get the vortex act? a mesh cup chimney would obviously do wonders. tuna cans have a stamped lip for stacking, if the mesh is close enough for exploiting that stamped lip.
worth a try - let me know how you get on mate
Inspiring video as always!
I made a close approximation of this, except my reservoir section was filled with ceramic fibre topped with a disc of carbon felt then the stainless mesh. The initial burn was strong but controlled, presumably by the mesh. It then died down to a low blue flame for the majority of the rest of the burn. Not ideal for my use case (a reasonably decorative room heater), perhaps my can was too tall and narrow for efficient wicking. Love the safety flame concept but the search goes on for my consistent controlled burn.
Wow! That's a home run in all aspects. My mind is thinking if you can get solar and a Stirling on a full burning stove you can replace an internal combustion in efficiency and it would drop the weight of a vehicle. There is fancy engineering with glass which would allow light to pass to solar. I am itching to try it but have a lot going on in my life. So if you want to look at that go for it.
cheers mate
Is there a easy cheap catalyst you can dope that mesh with to make it flameless like those Coleman catalytic heaters?
That's pretty clever. Nice work Robert.
Outstanding & Brilliant very nice finding indeed👋👋👋👍
Thank you kindly
Could you create something that would be like a wood burner in the house, but with no smoke? Basically a cheap alternative to spending £thousands on a wood burner
I've been working on it for a long time. All I've come up with is using a small camp stove and running the stovepipe out a window. I used to install the real ones for a living. I've got a wonderful little woodburner that I bought new for less than $300 US. Enough stovepipe and a damper would run you maybe $75-100 more. You'd need to purchase a purpose made fireback and hearth or produce the same with available materials (think stone slabs/concrete wall backing...). There's just no real cheap and safe way to burn wood. PS the trick to not getting smoke is to light a paper log or some such thing and hold it up in the flue for a good thirty seconds before lighting the stove in order to warm up the flue and start a good draft going. Voila! No smoke. Oh, and use only very dry seasoned wood.
You're describing a rocket stove - he's made loads
He just made one for Luke
of course mate - what you are talking about is just a rocket stove - but a little adaptation is still needed - I have ordered the parts
@@ThinkingandTinkering thank you Robert. Just watched your new video with the box on the rocket stove. It's great 😄. Keep up the good work, love the videos 👍
It’s all a bit dangerous but useful in an emergency. CO and CO2 are a potential danger, plus particulates in the air if you burn the wrong fuel. Then there is the risk of setting fire to the curtains, the open 5l bottle of alcohol etc! We heat with a properly installed 8kW wood burner which provides enough heat so we won’t be using the central heating this winter. With an air inlet and sealed flue none of the nasties get into the air we breathe. Obviously this doesn’t work for everyone- you need a free/cheap source for the wood, but it works for us.
That is brilliant! Thank You for sharing.
my pleasure
I'd place the bottom ring a bit lower on the top section so it forms a lip aligning the two halves...
cheers mate
Speachless !! Thanks AGAIN !
awesome - cheers mate
Great video! I'm glad I found this channel
Glad you enjoy it!
1:55 be aware that Oasis is essentialy foamy Bakelite without a filler, it's phenol-formaldehyde foam. Make sure that it cannot get to the decomposition temperature, or it can release formaldehyde vapor.
Do you know what the decomposition temp is?
@@BurntFossil Phenol formaldehyde resin begins to decompose around 300 degrees C. I do not know if/how much it offgases at lower temperatures.
That is awesom. It makes me think of all the people over the world who've accidentally gotten burned by cook fires and forest fires started when something went out of hand Hope this gets out as an idea to folks.
I hope so too - we will just have to spread the word I guess
What if you had a jar with a large diameter metal lid. It uses copper mesh and about five holes in the lid. One in the center for a bolt. On this bolt is two wooden wheels. Holes two holes on the side of the bolt line up with the three hole in each wood wheel. Then two more holes on the outer edge of where the wooded wheels are. The wooden wheels have the copper mesh tacked on to make a cylinder going up to the top of the lid so air can escape. Then two holes in the bottom of the bottom wheel have pipes going to the top of the lid along the outer edge. Inside the jar is a small carbon felt with a steel sheet acting like a spring to hold it against the wall of the jar. In the bottom is your acetone or methanol. The copper sheet should be pre heat treated to make an oxide layer on the outer wall of the mesh. This is done by heating the copper mesh against the bottom of a pot or pan to keep the copper mesh from melting or getting to hot so only the catalytic oxide layer is formed. Once assembled put about a few ounces of acetone in the bottom of the jar. Preheat the mesh a little bit but not too much. Put the lid and assembly back on. If it was made right it should catalyze the acetone and draw fresh air in through the bottom by convection. Though feel free to tell me how this idea is flawed. Because it is just a planning stage.
I think it is an awesome idea mate - it's difficult to comment on ideas as the real issues one in the practicalities - the devil is in the detail as they say
internet vermin are harder than you think to get rid of !
lol - for sure
it's all nice with all your variations every day.
awesome
awesome video, you're really going to help a lot of people doing this.
I've been thinking about the foamy stuff inside of a sunflower stalk as an alternative wicking material. It does a pretty good job for the plant. Won't know till next year though. I have to plant some and let the squirles get to the seeds first :)
Not sure if it only works if it's not broken down or if it's powdered will it still have enough wicking power to do a job. Science awaits.... Tinkering anyway.
As a side note, you can also eat the powder and use it as flour. I haven't tried that yet either.
There is a video on TH-cam on people in the middle ages ( i dont know the name anymore...), where the man explained how they use to make wicks out of s grass like plant...maybe worth looking up...
that's clever - let me know how it works out will you?
All flames from all flammable materials have what's called a quenching diameter. Since the material itself doesn't burn, only the vapour generated by the heat applied, there is a finite space for each vapour through which the flame can't pass. Increase or diminish the diameter of the space and you can regulate the flame propagation. The principle is what Mr Davy used to put canaries out of work in coal mines. Maggy Thatcher was probably an admirer.
cheers mate
So you could probably modify the wicking arrangement with the carbon felt and a larger reservoir? How might one control the heat out put? Instead of moving the wick up and down, might it be more convenient to move a mantle? Perhaps a telescopic or sliding mantle.
I wonder if when the Oasis foam gets low on fuel in it will it then start to melt or burn itself? A candle wick without wax will burn up. One thing I have been thinking about doing is to source some of the Oasis and use it to cool carbon arc rods(tightly bound side by side) by filling it with distilled water. Evaporative cooling. Then lay on top of them battery carbon rod centers. Heat the top side, the Oasis cools the bottom side and see if that will produce current. I figure if the top layer of rods has a different impedance than the bottom rods then it may make a thermopile much like your paper and pencil one only larger. I don't know, but may be worth a try to find out as it would not be quite as fragile.
I like the thinking mate - give it a go and see how it works - maybe do a video?
@@ThinkingandTinkering I may do it a bit later. Being a caretaker for my mother right now due to a cardiac event so it would be after things settle down. Thanks Rob!
Do you have to worry about co2 levels if you are burning it indoors? Once you have depleted the alchahol will you have to replace the foam or is it reusable? Could you use carbon felt as a Wick?
Very cool. One of these days you're going to hit on a million Quid idea.
Could you get one going with an enclosed wire mantle?
That way you have even less loose flame
oh yeah
I wonder if you could get the honey comb out of a catalytic converter intact. Just plopping it on the top would make an excellent radiant heater
@@mhbh1979 I don't know much about catalytic converters but a Mass Airflow Straightener would probably work nicely, if you can find one
This is a really interesting design - I love it because it's so simple yet so effective. Do you know what sorts of CO levels does this give out?
This is called executing a brilliant idea.
wow - cheers mate
This guys TH-cam channel should be seen by every citicen of Ukraine. They have dire need for some alternative heating at the moment. I like 1700 or 1702 the heater with carbon felt and vegetable oil. This one here is better for the really flammable stuff like alcohol or petrol. I think I will try it with some denatured alcohol, foam from christmas arrangement and cooper mesh. I think I will also try one really small 3-4 cm with carbon felt instead of foam and I hope that it´s not to hot and melt the cooper mesh.
Outstanding 👍😃👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Welding Tip - when doing spot welds with a new rod hold the actual rod like a pencil near the work piece. Helps aim and control. Note - my welding is no better than yours but that tip made a real difference to me. Love the vids btw.
Great tip! cheers mate
Really enjoyed this one. Thanks mate.
cheers mate
How long does it lasts? That foam material doesn't get consumed?
Can it be extended to run 8-10 hours?
That's really cool Robert, thanks.
cheers mate
Very nice. Bet that a tiny piece of carbon foam would eliminate the starting fuel/tissue.
for sure mate -I avoided it because not everyone has the carbon felt - and you know what it is like - if I had included it loads of folks would have thought you needed it
Good share! Safety first, always.
for sure mate
Very cool, would stop your house burning if knocked. Great job!
yep - and cheers mate
LOVE it. Magic!
lol - cheers mate
No, Science. 😁
Any concern about fumes related to the oasis foam? Google says it's made of "formaldehyde polymers".
That is rather cool. I guess that would mean that you don’t need a snuffer anymore
You've redeemed yourself for that ceiling torch.
lol - cheers mate
put a mantel on it and see if it burns better and still safe
Which alcohol burns the cleanest without the smell of the fuel ?? Good Day.
methanol
@@ThinkingandTinkering Thank you Sir.
WOW. To heat a small space in an emergency. I still have bioethanol in the shed. Thank you for this useful idea.
cheers mate
Thank you Mr Chuckle ;)
Just like the, mesh on a bunsen burner stand. Flame above gas below.
yep
00:50 RSM says the SS Mesh has 1 mm holes. Would a smaller/larger mesh have any benefit?
I wouldn't use larger or the effect won't happen - smaller is interesting
Robert, I have maximum respect of you so the next sentence is without any irony or Sarcasm. Great job, you are a genius! Keep it up pal! 👍You are Awesome 😎. It would be great to have a oil burning version too. Do you think it could be accomplished by slightly modifying the wicking material or something 🤔?
The mesh is expensive and takes ages to arrive. When the fuel runs out, will the foam start to burn and give off fumes?