How To Fix That Nasty Spine Roll On Your Comic!
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I always clean the book before any kind of humidification, tack ironing and pressing. Otherwise you chance fixing dirt and grime into the book by pressing it first. Also I use silicone release paper or parchment paper directly on the front cover under a non laminated backer board or inkjet paper to avoid the possibility of the board sticking. The basic principles are here. I have found that you actually only need to press the unfolded book flat for 5 minutes and then you can re-fold the book while it is still warm and then press and cool as usual.
Thanks for stopping by and sharing your techniques! I always clean my book before a press as well, but I was just excited to make this video! lol. Also, I just invested in some parchment paper to put under the non laminated backer board!
This was super interesting. I would love to press some of my own books, but I am so paranoid about ruining my books.
Thanks for watching! I was the same way at first! Definitely have to start with some quarter/50 cent bin books to work out the kinks on.
The next time your local shop has a stack of old books for like $5 (bulk) buy some up and practice on those.
Also, watch some videos. Maybe watch like 4 or 5 different vids from diff creators and follow their methods
This is making me nervous 😓
I don’t know if I’ll ever trust myself well enough to be handling some of the higher grade/grail books, but this process as a whole looks both fun and rewarding. I’ll undoubtedly be looking more in depth at presses and tool option-techniques here in the near future. Thank you for the demonstration!
Of course! And good luck to you on your future trials!
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Wowwww! That’s artistry right there. The suspense lol. That came out really nice, thanks for sharing it!
Haha Thanks man!
He turned a $100 comic into a $1,000 comic!
Just getting back into the comic collecting after 50yrs. thanks for a great video on correcting spine rolls...
Welcome back, John! Glad the video was helpful!
Thanks, i learnt something today. I have the same press in purple. A great tip i found for speeding things up is using 12 by 16 parchment, and sandwich your book, board and paper between the single piece. I found adding an aluminum plate on the bottom of my press, stops the mushy pad from crumpling up the back papers.. I do the same heat and shorter times as you do also.
Thank you for mentioning how you handle current books. I thought about asking you about that today
Indeed, indeed!
Looks nice, I will say using that steamer on a pricy book would have me puckering.
Haha! I'm telling you, it takes a lot of guts! But also a lot of practice on crap books.
I think some 25 cent practice books are in my future, thanks for sharing.
Ohhhhh yeah!!! Good luck!
Great videos! I heat the book for just a few seconds before dry cleaning or wet cleaning. I also humidify the book before flattening and again before reshaping. Keep up the good work!
Great job. It is so satisfying when a book comes out flat and even.
Thanks for watching!
I use a different method but I'm also using a different press and paper. results look good.
Thanks! What type of press are you using? The one I use is ehhh lol.
I wonder if a rolling pin could help instead of the hand pressing. A marble one would have some good weight to it. I guess the trick would be lining up the edges on the right first.
I wouldn't even attempt to use a rolling bin. Rolling anything on top has the ability to rip the pages with the movement. Even with the tack iron, it's more of a pressing down motion with very little movement.
Very nice. Thanks for teaching us. Appreciate it.
For sure! Thanks for watching!
Awsome now know how to do this. I just picked this book up. Thank you for the info
Thank you and congrats!
Thanks for the great demonstration. Your videos are very clear and informative.
Thanks for the feedback, Jeff!
I enjoyed watching the process. Very informative. I've now seen quite a number of pressing vids. I'm getting there slowly but surely. Thanks for posting.
Thanks for watching! It's definitely a process!
Dude you gots machines..lol
I could not take my eyes off this the before versus after is crazy
Nice! Thanks for watching!
This is great. I have a Newsstand copy of X Factor #24 F.A. of Archangel. it's a 9.8 candidate when I get that spine roll out.
This is great! Thank you for sharing the steps (thanks to the TH-cam algorithm its like two years ago) but still 😂 I've got a press coming and I'm excited (and nervous) to try my hand at some books. ALSO just found your channel and I'm excited to back track and see the other great content you have!
Thanks for stopping by!
Just to be safe, when I steam the spine I hold the book in one hand so I can hold the steamer slightly under the book and let the steam rise to it. This cuts down the chances of water splattering on the book.
Good tip! I've actually done this as well just on random books holding the book up so you're not tipping the humidifier. I will say though, the Con Air is usually pretty good and hardly ever produces droplets. I used a knock off before this and it was horrible. Returned that right away.
Wow I think that book turned out really good you correct the spine roll apocalypse really good👍
Haha thanks Isaac! I hope to do more of these vids soon!
Just learning to press and came across your channel. Great vids, man, your insight is much appreciated. Excited to get the kinks out on some beat-up comics and get this down!
Thanks for stopping by and subbing! Good luck on the pressing journey!
Amazing you've just changed my life
lol this is good to hear! Thanks for watching!
Splendid process for fixing spine roll!
Thank you!
Thanks for showing us how you press! Thanks bro!
Of course! Thanks for watching!
Nice Job, Looks so much nicer without all the white :D Greetings from Scotland :D
Thank you!
Thank you for your patience. I just got me my own pressure. And I'm nervous to start. I've been watching a lot of videos. I am still scared and worried but I'm willing to try it but I had to buy me some low and gray comic books and practice.
It will come to you! Just make sure to practice a lot on non valuable books!
Well done & great presentation!
You made it look easy… Thanks for the post, I’m definitely subscribing..
Appreciate the sub!
I use a dif method but good job.
Use magazine backing boards in case it moves
Thanks! yeah the bigger the board, the better
I've got one of these. Won't cgc it as it's not worth it but I for sure need it pressed.
Great book to own right now!
Love me the Conair steamer!!
Yes!
Man I did not expect that. Awesome video Chris
Thanks man!
Magic eraser is a form of sandpaper....do not use it 😂
How do you categorize it as sand paper? I know that it will eat at your paper if you don't use it correctly, but I will continue to use them the way I do. I have had nothing but success with them. They've never pulled anything off I don't want, including gloss. But you HAVE to be extremely careful and know what you're doing.
@@JernosComicsPopCulture the sponge is made out of Melamine which is an abrasive material, if the "lightest" sandpaper is a 10 these sponges are like a 3 or 4. They work extremely well but they can very easily remove the wax coating on comics. Now if you know what your doing hell yeah go for it but, with this being shown to so many people and potential beginners I'd definitely be very cautious.
Very Good Video! Lots of good tips! Thanks for making this demo!
Thanks for watching!
i just picked up a nice copy of ASM 361 that has white pages and with a press would turn into a 9.6. unfortunately, it has a couple color breaks bear the bottom staple, but hey! i finally got me a copy after three years of collecting
Still a good have!
cool video , the book looks s much nicer after that press. a fine addition to your collection . take care and have an awesome day.
Thanks, Scott!
Great job 👏
Thank you!
Great how too. Keep it coming and hip hop ambition as rider.
Thanks, man!
Your so very welcome be safe.
Great job brotha! Came out gorgeous
Thank you!
Very informative and well done. Thanks for the info! 🎯
Thanks for watching!
Omg I would be so scared to this with an ASM key lol I’d have to practice on $1 books like 10 times first
Awesome, thanks!!
Great job! can you tell what model press you use? i need to get one. thanks
Thanks, Sam! It's a generic press from Amazon. Many are exactly the same with different names placed on them.
Very helpful video!
Great video Chris!
Thank you!
awesome work mate
very helpful, thanks king
Thanks for watching!
Guys. Guys. Guys.
Your putting so many Palm creases omg!
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Awesome work!!!!!
Thank you!
TY for the tips.
Of course!
Great work... thanks for sharing.
Have you pressed a square bound book before? Would love to see a video on that. Cheers
Still crafting my technique for square bounds. Tricky for sure but I do plan on doing a vid on one in the near future.
It looks amazing!
Thank you!
Can you use distill Water ???
Ah I actually should have mentioned that! Distilled water is the ONLY water that you should use!
looks way better!
Thanks!
Awesome video! Super helpful as well. What would u say the grade difference is between now and when u first got the book. Also what was the original grade of the book? Thank you and again awesome video
Thank you! I purchased the book off of Mercari, so whatever they listed the grade as, I won't pay any mind to. I estimated this book to be a 4.0 prior to press. It has that big subscription type color breaking crease, as well as a couple other solid length color breaks on the cover. The staining on the back, the spine ticks and spine wear, and roughing around the edges and corners. After the press, I would easily give it one grade bump to a 4.5, possibly to a 5.0. The reason why I wouldn't say it's higher than a 5.0 is because the other defects present are way too large.
Now just to give a different example, if this book didn't the big color breaks and had sharper edges and no staining, the spine roll could have brought the book to say a 6.0, and the correction might bring it up to an 8.0. My point is, is that sometimes spine corrections can really bump a book up, but other times there are just too many other defects.
I have 2 presses. One is for cards and for using attatchment cause it has a smaller plate and one is for comics and sublimation
what was the eraser you used, please? i recently received a comic with a white cover, and a black smudge on it (looks it was stood on or something) I'm trying to get a new one from the supplier, but would be great to know how to fix this stuff in the future.
I really liked this video. Will you be sharing some other pressing secrets?
I sure will! Thanks for watching!
Came out great!
Thank you!
Is it best to put the Teflon sheet straight onto the book instead of the backing board?
awesome job thanks
Thanks for watching!
Anyone know how much spine roll affects grading? I’ve got a bunch of 90’s minor keys that have slight spine roll and this is something that seems like a very time consuming thing to fix for ONE single copy!
How long and how much force does it take if you have a 100 Page Issue ???
Well considering most 100 page comics have a square bound spine, you want to limit your pressure/force. If not, you will do more damage by flattening the spine. I would start with the most minimum of pressure.
excellent vid!
Thank you!
Great video! Wondering why you put the heavy art paper under the cover?
Thanks for watching! This does a couple of things: one, it seperates the cover page from the inner pages so the heat can transfer into the cover with more pressure, hence the heavier the weight of the paper, the more that can be pressed throughout the cover. Also, especially on books with newsprint, it won't allow the manufacturing holes that are sometimes at the bottom of the inner pages to press into the cover.
Nice video Informational bro. Question did you get it graded if so I'm curious on what it came back as. Super clean press
Thanks for watching! No, I haven't got it graded.
Better off letting a professional do this. They have the correct equipment and they probably arent putting their bare hands on the cover either.
Respectfully, there really is no such thing as a professional presser. Secondly, many so-called professionals will tell you not to use gloves because they block the feel of the book's pages, and you can actually handle the book with more care and precision without gloves. I'll keep doing what I'm doing, but thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Thanks for this video! Question: Are you placing the comic backer boards shiny side or dull side against the comic?
Gloss side is the buffer, and that side is the side that you want the back of the comic sitting on. Thanks for watching!
Great video. Thanks for sharing. I’ve recently seen ads for “facsimile” comic books. Are those genuine reprints or bootlegs?
Thank you! As for facsimile books, there are a lot being published right now, so I'm assuming the ads that you are seeing should be legit.
To Bad we can not use Ultaviolet Light to turn Yellow pages to white !!!
lol right?
Would that harm the paper by drying it out?
@@dandelatorre1870 Heat turns the Paper White
@@dandelatorre1870 Could possibly. But I'm not an expert on time and exposure, etc. I mean in all honesty, we shouldn't be applying "heat" to paper, but we do lol.
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What are thoughts on 15 x15 press machines at 40 to 60 dollars and new or used? Like the Conair handheld steamer. Really want to my hand on fixing my own books. Luckily I have a few rough books too practice on. Thanks for this video. Please update us when you discover other tips and tricks.
Honestly, I would be hesitant to buy a used press unless I could see it in person or at least see a video of it on and working. If it's a cheap generic press like you see on eBay or Amazon, they are already not the best, but they get the job done. But often times there is shotty welding, or the heat doesn't distribute well, etc.
@@JernosComicsPopCulture Chris i did some looking for 15x15 heat press machines new on Ebay lowest 170 to 200. I did watch your mylar bags video in your opinion what the best inexpensive brand for 2mil silver mylar 100 count with or without boards?
great content. just gave you a sub! question: what is the brand of your 15x15 press? if i only buy one, do you recommend buying a larger press for all my pressing needs? or are there instances where having a smaller press is more advantageous? very new to exploring the art of cleaning/pressing, so any help is much appreciated! thanks!
Thanks for the sub Albert! My press is a generic "made in China" type of press, but these usually get the job done. If you are just starting out, it's better than investing 500 dollars in an industry press.
Mine is 15x15 and I can press two books at once. Advantages of a smaller press? well, they're cheaper? lol. It's all about asking "why" you want to press. If it's for personal use or just to start learning, I recommend checking ebay or amazing for a clamshell press. You can get a 15x15 for under 200.
Would you recommend this method with square bound books? This video was really useful cuz I was wondering how to fix spine rolls, I always thought they were permanent.
Thanks for watching and for commenting! And to answer your question, no, absolutely not. You cannot use this method for sqaure bound books. You could actually split the spine. In all honesty, you are limited to what you can do for a square bound book. You most likely would have to put some type of clamped weight up against the spine while in the press.
How do you judge the quality of the staples such that you feel it's safe to use this method? What if the staples are loosening at the spine? Too dangerous? Thanks for the video!
Great question and it is absolutely all about using your best judgment. Trial and error and the more you work at pressing, the better you become.
i dont have a press but i like watching these kinda videos! cheers
if you dont mind me asking, what kind of press do you have?
Thanks for tuning in! It's a generic "manufactured in China" press. It's a clamshell press, but it's basically a generic model/mold. I had a lot of issues with it in the beginning and had to rig it to get the pressure decent. Still, the pressure isn't near where it should be. But for now, it gets the job done.
@@JernosComicsPopCulture thanks for that info. im starting to shop around for my own
I’m assuming you have clean and dry hands? Also some people use hand lotion or hand sanitizer which can leave a residue on your skin. I am forever washing my hands and I never use lotion or sanitizer which can transfer to the comic.
Yes!! Always thoroughly washed and dried, and NOOOO!!! Never use lotion or sanitizer or anything before handling a comic! You are absolutely right for being mindful of that!
Does this last? Will the spine roll come back?
Do you do this in the Sac area for people? How much do you charge?
I currently only press my own books. I hope one day to offer it as a service.
hi new subscriber here, how many minutes is recommended for a heat press that only goes to170 degrees for pressing comics, any help would be great TY
Thanks for the sub! To answer your question, it's all about trial and error. Every press is different. Even on a specific temperature, some presses may heat slightly hotter or cooler. For me, I use 175 for 5 minutes, but that's only with books with the newspaper stock pages. Any modern book with the magazine type paper I use 145 for only 30 seconds.
It looks amazing wel doen 👍👏👏👏
Thank you!
excellent!
Thank you!
That is a nasty spine roll.
Sure was!
if i use a metal plate on bottom....do i still need to flip?
I would say it all depends on the individual book. It would allow you to not have to on books that might have smaller defects. Even in mine, with no metal plate on the bottom, there are some books that I don't flip simply because the defects are minimal.
7:52 should you be wearing gloves? Just asking.
Thanks for the question, Mike. While gloves can protect when handling comics, gloves also can become problematic. The paper of the pages are so very delicate that it is extremely easy to mishandle a comic when wearing gloves, especially when applying pressure. In this specific situation, there is a lot of pressure applied, and if I was wearing gloves, I risk easily ripping the comic, or allowing my hands to slip because I don't have the proper feel of the book beneath my fingers.
Great video, how do you like the Better Sub press?
Honestly they are all the same generic manufactured design. The only thing I recommend for folks is to go with a clamshell instead of a swing arm.
Hey man don't know if you'll see this but I have some comics to be pressed and cleaned but no services are offered near me. Should I send them to be pressed by a company or person or let cgc clean and press them. Thanks in advance
Hey Chris! Honestly, I would never send my books to CGC/CCS to press them. I've heard too many horror stories, plus many times I've heard books getting cracked, sent there to get pressed, and end up getting a lower grade when reslabbed.
@@JernosComicsPopCulture thank you for replying. I've heard those stories also, and I've seen the product when done right by them and it looks pretty good. My problem I'd have to send them to get pressed by someone I don't know. I feel like if cgc screwed them up I'd be happier with their replacement offer than Jim bobs press shack (lol you know what I mean). Definitely a decision needs to be made and your concerns are duly noted. Thanks again
Hi Chris
I watch your video's religiously and I finally got up the nerve to buy a press (15x15) and my books come out amazing (using your techniques) but one thing I did notice is that sometimes when I put a backing board in the center where the staples are, the book is sort of puffy on the spine when it's all done. Could this be because there needs to be more pressure?
Hi Shawn! Glad to hear of your successes! You might actually have TOO MUCH pressure if there is any issue with the spine. I would try taking a little pressure off and see if that changes anything. If it doesn't, then it might not be due to the backing board, and it might just need more pressure to flatten out the spine.
@@JernosComicsPopCulture Hi Chris, I took your advice and backed off the pressure a bit and everything looks great! Thanks for your help!
@@shawnburke2102 That is awesome!
What press is that and do you remember where you got it?
It's a generic 15x15 that i got on Amazon
I like your videos...you do different shit then other people..@HOODWOOD COMICS
I appreciate the feedback!
Would a 15"x15" T-Shirt Heat Press work for pressing comics?
Absolutely! That's what I use!
aped 3 suggested UV light to whiten the pages, does that dry out the paper?
If the page was all white, maybe lol. But I would not expose any pages of a comic to UV, because although it may whiten the paper, it's going to fade the ink.
How do you think this correction of the spine affected the grade in before vs after?
Great question! I would assume at least one half grade point, possible one whole.