😂 can't believe that still does anything for you, just stick Anakin Skywalker into it somewhere and some of you will just yuck it up no matter how trash it is 😂
I like that Dave uses it to further the story while still keeping everything mystical. It may explain one thing but still left not knowing everything about the force.
Yeah I think he expands on ideas and concepts from Lucas while still leaving tons of questions. That’s a difficult task to do. But the only way to be successful in adding to the story. If you disagree I’d love to know how you add to the story and lore without expanding it and also leaving more questions for the audience. The mortis and world between world arcs leave a lot of questions (IMO).
@@danotto8970 I wouldn't add anything new about the force, I would keep it OG mystical. And the world between worlds is just a fancy version of time travel. And time travel is NEVER a good idea for a show that isn't supposed to be goofy and where the story isn't as important. Time travel makes every decision, death and event absolutely meaningless. I also don't consider Mortis or those silly father, daughter and son characters cannon. Why? Because it ruins the mystic of the force. The original jedi considered both the dark and the light to be of the same "being" if you will. Remember when the force was almost philosophical, some mysterious force that seemed to have some sort of intention or purpose greater than us in the world. Not a stupid fight between teenaged siblings and their single dad. Also if these characters are cannon, Abeloth is also cannon right? How is it that the portrayal of THE darkside being this stupid teenagelike character is far less horrifying than Abeloth? That's like saying that a man can be more horrifying than the devil himself if you were a christian. Instead of trying to add to the story, why don't they flesh out the already existing one? There's so many good characters in Star Wars that we've yet to see. Which there is PLENTY of material for already. Life of a younger Thrawn, The Chiss Ascendency, The Grysks, Bane, Banes apprentice, Revan, all the Sith Lords up to order 66, the first force users. Hell I could write you an entire essay of good material that already exists, that does nothing more than to add to the already existing story. Hell you can even make new characters "in the past" that made huge impacts on the "main story". All I want is for them to stop making changes that makes the original story "less."
When it comes to portraying interacting with a dead relative or friend in a dream, I don't think I've seen a scene more perfect than this. They are ghostly and otherworldly in appearance, but still very human. They resemble themselves as you remember, but there is something different from their physical bodies. Most important, they don't interact with you as you would normally alive. Your disbelief in seeing them in the flesh again almost makes you question your sanity. They either keep their distance or remain very silent only somewhat talking to you as if it takes a lot of energy to communicate beyond the grave.
If u watch the last ep of Asoka the symbols when they opened the map are like the wolves Ezra saw when opening the world between worlds. When she picked up the map it burned into her hand I think that gave her access to the world between worlds which I believe will give her access to follow them to the other galaxy where Thrawn and Ezzra are
I think her access to the World Between Worlds has to do with her connection to the Sister rather than anything else I think with the help of that orb though she was perhaps able to find it however through the Force to go there.
Theory.. Actually we first saw the World Between Worlds in SW Rebels Season One Episode 10, a glimpse of it. Check minute 17:30 and ahead when Ezra gets his Kyber cristal.. Before he gets there, inside the temple we see the same letters on the wall like the letters in the map on Seatos
i like the idea i have heard that the portals are shatterpoints, you can't see every part of the past or future, just the major events that could change huge parts of the timeline
Just go watch Marvel movies... Not going to be much different. They started with multiple worlds, like Asgard, before the multiverse crap, same thing is going to happen here. Now there's more than one Galaxy. There's ALREADY time travel. Not going to be long before they introduce parallel universes imo... lazy and derivative, just marvel with Star Wars packaging. ✌😕
There is no “both instances”. There is only one. Ahsoka ALWAYS survived because Ezra ALWAYS saved her. In S2, it’s not revealed to us how she survived, but it’s because Ezra from the future saved her. It’s a paradox.
Just go watch Marvel movies... Not going to be much different. They started with multiple worlds, like Asgard, before the multiverse crap, same thing is going to happen here. Now there's more than one Galaxy. There's ALREADY time travel. Not going to be long before they introduce parallel universes imo... lazy and derivative, just marvel with Star Wars packaging. ✌😕
@@draconianemanations2785No it’s not. Anakin might show Ahsoka force visions and possibilities, but the WBW is a paradox. It doesn’t have the ability to change the timeline. It’s not possible, unless they retcon it and give it that ability. Time travel works totally different in marvel because there are no paradoxes.
@@draconianemanations2785entirely different writers. Filoni been writing star wars for as long as I can remember I've been watching his SW content since I was a kid.
I’m totally stoked for the WBW it combines so much from both Clone Wars and Rebels. Can’t wait to see how Dave brings this all together, and the implications of it.
You don’t find it… strange / unusual that Filoni essentially created a Tremendously … lore / changing - cracking (potentially) ‘thing’ (WBW) … which was never seen or heard from before in decades of SW lore (either Lucas / EU / or Disney) ? I just hope they don’t mess up anything too badly 😬🤞
Great video. Only nitpick I have is that Filoni explained it’s not time travel. He likens it to like a library where you can see timelines specific to yourself, to gain knowledge and wisdom. He says when Ezra pulled Ahsoka in, it didn’t change her fate, or the galaxy’s timeline; it didn’t disrupt the timeline - but that he didn’t understand that and he tied to pull Kanan in thinking he could save him. Ezra can’t go into a portal. He was able to pull Ahsoka in, but he couldn’t go to Malachor. And she knew she shouldn’t go to Ezra’s entrance. So the most one could do would be to see the future and try to prevent it by going back to the current timeline. But you can’t go back into the past to change anything.
i wonder if plagueis had his own way to see into the world between worlds, thats how he knew how to set up the clone wars so well before showing palpatine then palpatine unlifeing him lol
Here’s how I think the next episode SHOULD go: Anakin and Ahsoka talk about their adventures, and Anakin reveals to her how he and Skoll know each other. After that, Ahsoka talks about how she regrets not saving him and not being there. Anakin pauses. “Come with me. Let me show you something.” He takes her to a portal where we see him killing the last of the Separatist leaders on Mustafar. Anakin pushes her in and closes the portal. The dark side Anakin is at first overjoyed to see her, but when she tries to convince him to stop, it evolves into an argument about how she left him. At a time of him overcome by darkness, it becomes this (and make sure you grab a tissue, because it’s about to get emotional): Anakin: “Ahsoka. Why did you leave? Where were you when I needed you?” Ahsoka: “I made a choice. I couldn’t stay.” Anakin: “…It was SELFISH. What you did.” (Crying) “N-no…” “You abandoned me! You FAILED me!” His Sith eyes dim, turning into his natural blue, and as he ignites his lightsaber, we see his face clearly, a tear rolling down his cheek. “Do you know what I’ve become?” With a final defiant “NO”, a fight ensues as Anakin tries to kill her, Ahsoka crying the whole time, begging him to stop, saying EVERYTHING she wanted to say, but Anakin doesn’t say a word. Finally, at the end of it: Ahsoka: “I’ll never leave you again! I promise!” Anakin, who was preparing to cut her down, slowly lowers his lightsaber. His robe flowed with the planet’s heat. The only noise there was were the waves of the lava. But to them, it was complete silence, as though in the vacuum of space. Anakin looks away, a final tear rolling down his cheek. He looks back down at Ahsoka. And with a blink of his eyes, the worst happens: Anakin: (His eyes returning to Sith yellow) “Then you will DIE.” He lifts his lightsaber up, and just before he cuts her down, Anakin from the World Between Worlds pulls her through. When she recovers, she drops to her hands and knees, and begins sobbing. Anakin gets down on one knee, and hugs her. Anakin: (Smiling softly) “It was NEVER your fault, Snips.”
@@Raimi54420 Well, Tales Of The Jedi has him endlessly putting her through intense training to make sure she can survive anything. This would simply be another instance of that. "Again."
@@Raimi54420 It would be the best way for her to understand that there was nothing she could do. It would be painful for her, but that’s how the truth is.
The World Between Worlds is here, so we either welcome it or not. However, Dave has kept things quite authentic so far, which makes me want to welcome it (I haven't watched Rebels).
Just go watch Marvel movies... Not going to be much different. They started with multiple worlds, like Asgard, before the multiverse crap, same thing is going to happen here. Now there's more than one Galaxy. There's ALREADY time travel. Not going to be long before they introduce parallel universes imo... lazy and derivative, just marvel with Star Wars packaging. ✌😕
Watch the Clone Wars Animated show and Rebels... it opens the lore, I like the angle as its not so much time travel... same with the Whills that was mentioned for a short in Rogue One, which I actually thought was Disney's best feature film of Star Wars, they could've done so much if they just listened to fans instead of the WOKETARDS.
We need a live action series that doesnt focus on any one character or event or timeline. We get tons of standalone episodes from all across the universe, and the way it ties in to the other shows is that someone is watching these through portals in the world between worlds
I hope anakin has taken his place as the new 'father' balance of the force part, maybe ahsoka is meant to be the new version of thr daughter, and someone else not sure who maybe maul or nobody and its the same darkside dude as the son.
Was thinking the same!!! At least that it made sense for anakin to be there as he was supposed to replace the father. And Ashoka sort of is his little daughter
Something Baylan said to Ashoka has me really thinking. About how she abandon Anakin when he needed her the most. Just before he turns to the dark side. And then all of a sudden, there is Anakin, just before he fell. In a place where Ashoka can change the timeline. Imagine if this happens. This would change EVERYTHING!.
If Dave is given charge of everying and Kathlene is kicked out, I wouldn't mind him using it to make the sequals defunct and instead going through a different branch of the timeline.
The World Between Worlds is a great idea and I love it but yeah it could definitely cause some issues. That said, I don't think any proper Jedi would go about changing the past, looking into possible futures sure because they do that all the time anyway just not to that scale and magnitude. But I do think the World Between Worlds could be used to set up some interesting work arounds. For instance no need to travel through Hyperspace just walk around until you find a door that opens to Sabine or Erza wherever they are.
It CANNOT cause issues because it is impossible to change the timeline with it. How do none of you understand this? Probably just because you take Theory’s word for it, but he’s wrong. It’s literally a PARADOX, meaning you CANNOT change the timeline. Ahsoka ALWAYS survived the fight with Vader because Ezra ALWAYS saved her. He already saved her when we experienced the fight in Season 2. There was another Ezra in the WBW. It is a PARADOX.
i hope they come out with a anakin show or sumn that’s all i’m asking for fr bc how you gonna have to chosen one and not have no OP lore of the shit he did as anakin or darth vader, please dave bless us
I think you kind of mis-understood the WBW's. It doesn't allow you to mess with time unless that is destined to happen. So think of it like this; Ezra was able to save Ahsoka because that had already happened. So you can't go back in time and kill Luke for example before he is meant to die and because he doesn't die from someone stabbing him through a portal, you can't do that from the WBW. But as an example we do not fully see how the Palpatine dies outside of dropping and seeing an explosion, so in that instance there could be a moment where someone pulls Palpatine into the WBW and shoots something to make that explosion happen. That, if yo uthink about it would be the ONLY real way for Palpatine to have survived the explosion.
2:03 : “Imagine going to some place like this where-“ “GET GROCERIES EFFORTLESSLY.” The second quote is an advert for Uber Eats that could NOT have been more perfectly timed. Made my day 😂
Awesome Video!!! I'm Excited to see more of The World Between Worlds in Live Action!!! I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE NEXT EPISODE!!!!!!! With Ahsoka AND Anakin in it I think it's Going to be One of The Best Episodes Ever!!!
You are worried about what you can "see" in this world through this video but missing the fact that ezra discovered how to avoid death?!! (ahsokas death) that is way bigger impact, especially for a sith.
I feel like this show is primarily made for the fans but at the same time it might be doing something like this in live action simply to introduce it to more people.. Sort of hoping the hardcore fans of rebels wont mind it happening twice. Even though we all speculated the WBW might keep ahsoka alive a little too long. I really hope filoni has her death planned, during heir to empire movie maybe
I actually forgot that Ezra had to touch botht he Daughter and the Son on the mural. This implies that only someone who could wield the Light Side and the Dark Side could access it. Which means Palpy would have bit shit out of luck, unless Vader could still do it.
I like to think that the force kind of chooses who can access it. That way there is no real time travel, only those things happen that have to happen. And that’s also why palpatine couldn’t access it.
There is a really good clip from the Season 4 Rebels Blu Ray where Filoni explains the WBW. He basically says that it has nothing to really do with time travel. Just look up "Dave Filoni on World Between Worlds"
I haven't seen anyone say this, and I think it's very crucial. The World Between Worlds will only show you what it wants you to see, so it cannot be meddled with. You can't just open a portal to an exact time and control it, it will only show you what the force allows. The force will guide you through the WBW in the same way it dictates every event.
I really enjoyed your video discussing Ahsoka's Fall. I have my own theory, which is that her final trial will be similar to Kanan's. The Force will compel her to confront her former master in his true form, forcing her to confront and ultimately let go of the attachment and grief she still carries with her. I also believe there's a possibility that we might see Anakin knighting her during this ordeal.
Star Wars fans must be reminded that: Star Wars is a sci fi series. Everything you expect in a great sci fi is supposed to be embodied in both Star Wars and in the upcoming Galaxy Wars.
I think will bring balance to ahsoka she will see no matter if she stayed or left nothing would have changed. Which will make her more powerful with the force.
I don't know enough to really make a big inference here, but I wanna know your perspective on this. Is it possible that Dave could use the Clone Wars -> Rebels -> Mandalorian/Ahsoka setup to create a separate timeline? One where *technically* 7-8-9 still exists, but in its own bubble. Can they can create (or alter) a whole new timeline with the stories they've setup? Cal Kestis, Ahsoka, Mando, Grogu, etc. Just curious, since this would be an easy way to either alter the past or create a new timeline. Everything could happen everywhere all at once. So, the events of 7-8-9 can *exist* but we could tell a new story with a different ending in the same setting. It doesn't devalue events, since they'd still exist and happen, but we're able to delve into the idea of balance. There are timelines where the Force creates balance (or "wins"), and there are timelines where the Dark Side creates balance (or "wins"). I'm not super fond of the idea of time travel to alter the "main timeline" but I do enjoy the idea of "everything, everywhere, all at once" to tell multiple stories so we aren't shoehorned by specific creative mistakes along the way. I could be misinterpreting things here, as I'm no expert, but I do enjoy the idea.
If they were going to create a different timeline they would've said so during Star Wars Celebration. They had that big graphic of all the eras. Mando verse is the New Republic era and it's followed by the First Order era(the sequels), and that goes into Rey's New Jedi Order era. I wish it were different, but Kathy and Dave are going all in on the sequel trilogy.
I wish they could do that, but the WBW is a paradox, meaning you can’t change the time NO MATTER WHAT. Ahsoka ALWAYS survived because Ezra ALWAYS saved her.
The timeline was NOT changed when Ahsoka was pulled by ezra, even at the end of that fight we got signs that she could still be alive by then, this is more of a fixed event, same as why ezra couldn't save Kanan or why Ahsoka couldn't just use it to save anakin from palpatine and things like that
Exactly. I wish they could retcon the sequels, but the WBW is a paradox. Starting to think the rest of the audience is stupid because they can’t understand this. Ahsoka ALWAYS survived because Ezra ALWAYS saved her.
@@Hard_Boiled_Entertainment kinda… I don’t think we will ever see him, I want to see this new galaxies version of the sith or something adjacent to that.
Imho the World between Worlds make the stakes in Star Wars feel shallow. And something tells me it only exists just so Dave can get Ahsoka back from the dead.
If palpatine had gotten into this world…. My god, he would make his own timeline where he wins in every possible way. Of course, the best possible outcome of him not being there in the old timeline would be fantastic
His granddaughter is the new face of SW . Though she destroyed him about a quarter of hisndna lives through her. Rey is also a honorary Skywalker. watever that means. Palpatine wins. All the true Skywalkers are gone. Team Palpatinen wins again.
I don't mind it so much, but we will have to see how the World Between Worlds (WBW) is handled my Dave. I really didn't like the implementation of the multiverse in the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU), since it felt like the stakes in movies like Endgame were entirely removed. However, I really enjoy time loop movies where the main character is forced to investigate and fix the "problem" in the plot, or else they will keep looping through time forever. Hopefully we will see how Dave utilizes the WBW in a way that makes sense and doesn't remove stakes and consequences. In Dave we trust 😆
You CANNOT change the timeline with the WBW. Dave has already explained this. Ahsoka ALWAYS survived the fight with Vader because Ezra ALWAYS saved her. It’s just not revealed to us until S4.
Yes it’s because Ahsoka ALWAYS survived the fight with Vader because Ezra ALWAYS saved her. That IS the timeline. You CANNOT change it. Ezra from the future saved her in S2. We just didn’t know it until S4.
The WBW will explain how Snoke has been around since the beginning of the Empire, how Palpatine was saved from the 2nd Death Star, and how Palpatine spoke to Ben Solo as “every voice that has ever been in his head”.
I've long felt everything about the Grand Inquisitor pointed to Snoke. Especially when the comics had him as a Dark Side ghost Luke had to face. Palps could have had that essence put in a new body, hence "I _made_ Snoke!"
@@Hard_Boiled_EntertainmentThis is what’s wrong with the comics. In that comic, Vader tied the grand inquisitor’s spirit to that place. But Vader obviously doesn’t have that kind of power, so it’s not believable at all and you could never translate that to the screen.
You were right SWT! I've been rewatching the Clone Wars and Season 6 episode 12, Destiny, the force spirits tell yoda, "We have achieved what you seek and live between the realms." That has to mean The World Between Worlds. So that's where the force ghosts reside
Star Wars Theory, there's nothing as deep as you may think with the World Between Worlds. The World Between Worlds is what Kenobi said in the New Hope: "The Force is what gives a Jedi his power. It's an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us. It binds the galaxy together". And since the Mortis Family relates to Light, Dark and Balance of the Force, it's only natural to see them connected to the World Between Worlds.
I enjoy the concept and Ahsoka going but not through almost dying because that means there can never be stakes or have to worry about any danger sense she always get saved by someone in the world between worlds. It’s been done twice which makes it super cheap. Also I think Anakin is embodying all of the force both dark and light which is why his cloak is black.
REMEMBER: Ezra TRIES to change the past...but Ahsoka makes clear that can't happen. We already saw in the episode with the original fight that she seems to survive. PLUS, remember Filoni himself made clear the WBW has nothing to do with full-on time travel. So anyone thinking this may lead to a decannonizing of the Sequel trilogy...that ain't gonna happen.
Is it really the Dark Side that the Son is meant to represent? Or is it Darkness? Remember, the Son represents one side of the balance, he was needed as a counterpart to his sister and vice versa. Although the Son became a Dark Sider I woulnd't say that necessarily means he was evil from the beginning. Even at the end he still had more Love in him than Palpatine. The Dark side is Evil itself but darkness, shadow, destruction and death are not necessarily bound to the Dark Side as these things are neither good or evil but essential aspects of the universe. Darkness is needed to keep the balance intact while the Dark Side is all about disturbing the balance. So, maybe, as suggested by The Clone Wars itself, maybe the Son originally was a rather good guy.
They should make a WBW show in the same vein of Quantum Leap; just a guy/girl/droid Force-tripping through the past, present, and future of the SW universe.
I think that if we DO see what would have happened to Ahsoka if she had been the one to confront Anakin on Mustafar, it would be Anakin winning and be a full strength Vader, leading to untold suffering throughout the Galaxy. It would be an emotional gut-punch to Ahsoka, BUT it may also resolve her inner conflict that somehow what Anakin became was her fault.
Hoping Dave Filoni will use “the world between worlds” to reverse the Sequels storyline and write a totally new force awakens with an exceptional Luke, Han, and a Luke daughter Rey this time!
Well this explanation is just theoretical, even dave says it's not time travel and meddling with the past will destroy the future, and you can only fully exit where you entered. Now does that mean that ahsoka destiny was to always be pulled to this place (daughter of mortis) or does she always survive that encounter with vader anyway so interfering does impact the future, who knows, but you can't just change what you want, hence why kanan can't be saved for example
No, she ALWAYS survived the fight with Vader BECAUSE Ezra ALWAYS saved her. That IS the timeline. It is impossible to change it. Nothing changed. Like in Harry Potter.
I am hoping we will broaden our knowledge regarding this realm in Episode 5 of Ahsoka, if not later in the series. Dave has evidently been planning to incorporate this realm into the Star Wars universe for many years and its introduction is clearly expanding on George Lucas' vision for Star Wars. We are actually first unknowingly introduced to this realm in Rebels' S1E10 where Ezra obtains a kyber crystal. And as far as I'm aware, visitors to this realm are unable to simply open a portal and walk through it. This means they cannot simply conjure moments in time and access them by their own free will. In Ezra's case, the moments that do appear involve events that are significant to him, and closely connected persons. This is why he sees Kanan on Lothal and Ahsoka on Malachor. Nor do visitors seem to possess an ability to alter a timeline. This would probably be considered time travel, which is what Filoni has said the WBW is not really about. Instead he claims it's about knowledge, perhaps like a library. Containing every moment in time that has ever happened and ever will happen. I'm not sure if that means a person can directly intervene via a portal because that's exactly what it seems like, but perhaps instead visiting these moments enables a person to influence the universe to achieve their own goals regardless if they know certain events have/will happen. The thing is, Ezra pulling Ahsoka through his portal into this realm didn't appear to significantly alter the timeline. In both instances, she survived Malachor. I say this because she didn't die in Rebels' S2E22 originally. Despite Kanan and Ezra thinking she perished on Malachor, she is shown as having survived and leaving the site at the end of the episode, and clearly not in the World Between Worlds either. Moreover, we are told by Filoni during a previous interview that Ahsoka had to leave the WBW when Ezra 'saves' her through the same portal she entered into the realm with, which would return her to that moment with Vader on Malachor. She could not leave the WBW through another portal without destroying the natural balance of the universe, and she seemed to know that. However, we do know that Ahsoka died in the Mortis realm during TCW. Despite Anakin, Obi-Wan and Ahsoka having no recollection of their time on Mortis, Ahsoka was killed by the Son and resurrected by Anakin and the Father by using the Daughter's life essence, which is presumably why Morai has been following her ever since. We also know that once they returned to the known galaxy, only a few moments had passed despite having spent days in the Mortis realm. I believe that this is also applicable to the World Between Worlds, especially since both realms are directly connected via The Ones from Mortis. As for the ending of Episode 4 of Ahsoka, I remember during TCW that Anakin was supposed to take over from the Father as the Chosen One, maintaining the balance between the the light and dark. It was prophesised by the Father whilst near-death that despite having declined the Father's invitation to remain on Mortis, he would fulfil his destiny. Moreover he is told during this scene after having killed the Son, that he has brought balance and must do so again for the galaxy, but to remain wary of his heart. We can safely presume this refers to Padmé. I do wonder then, having redeemed himself in Return of the Jedi by destroying the Sith, did he fulfil his destiny and succeed the Father as the Chosen One after his death, thereby explaining his appearance in the World Between Worlds? Or something else?
Just asking, did you notice that Anakin just appeared in the world between worlds even though we didn’t see him in the overview shot where we saw Ahsoka lie on the floor?
Just go watch Marvel movies... Not going to be much different. They started with multiple worlds, like Asgard, before the multiverse crap, same thing is going to happen here. Now there's more than one Galaxy. There's ALREADY time travel. Not going to be long before they introduce parallel universes imo... lazy and derivative, just marvel with Star Wars packaging. ✌😕
@@draconianemanations2785 i kinda know they doing the time travel multiverse now. but i honestly haven't watched anything from Marvel Since Endgame. they mostly lost me Post-Endgame
Hey Theory, thanks for this explanation man, I really needed it. LOL. So far, I'm in Season 3 of Clone Wars with more Seasons & episodes to go & then onto Rebels. But with the Ahsoka show progressing as quickly as it has, I'm looking for any material that'll explain certain events, places, characters that lead up to the show. Basically give me a gist of everything so I'll understand the Ahsoka series a lot better.
oof... i forget if Disney has an option of Ahsoka specific episodes, but when you hit the last 4 epsiodes of the final clone wars season, i envy you getting to see them for the 1st time ❤
Don’t listen to Theory on the WBW. He’s wrong. It CANNOT change the timeline because it works as a paradox. If you wanna understand, go watch the last arc of Rebels S2, then watch the episodes in S4 where Ezra makes it into the WBW from the Jedi temple on Lothal.
The story of how the World between Worlds intertwines w/ Star wars has not yet been fully hashed out, but ... In the midst of the sequel era, I thought Snoke was a fallen Whill (which I process as younger versions of the force priestesses that taught Yoda at the end of the Clone Wars). They were powerful entities and created the galaxy/universe, all was perfect. But one of them (Snoke) went against their wishes), and almost-biblically introduced evil (the dark side). The world between worlds I thought was the Whills' domain, until "the fall." From that point, they existed in the galaxy (universe) and created The Ones to balance the error that resulted (with Jedi / Sith fighting in the foreground)
Star Wars needs to take a page out of what they did in Harry Potter with the time travel. If you are going to introduce time travel in the story, you need to have subtle hints and moments throughout the timeline that imply that the story is being altered, and then reveal what actually happened. What they did in Rebels wasn't even close to this, they just made it all up in an episode and said, here you go Ashoka is saved. Time travel has to be planned out from the beginning otherwise it just comes off a lazy writing to the audience/reader. Another thing, after you are done with the time travel, you have to destroy any device that allows it to close any plotholes. Since we have seen the world between worlds again, they have failed to close any foreseen plotholes.
I'm just happy we get to see Skyguy
"Hello snips"
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😂 can't believe that still does anything for you, just stick Anakin Skywalker into it somewhere and some of you will just yuck it up no matter how trash it is 😂
@@draconianemanations2785when has it ever been trash with Anakin you goon?
@@draconianemanations2785 You probably like the sequels don't you 💀
I like that Dave uses it to further the story while still keeping everything mystical. It may explain one thing but still left not knowing everything about the force.
IK right! keeping the magic of Star Wars alive..
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He keeps everything mystical huh? Like how he put faces to the force, the most mystical thing in the entire story. Yes very mystical..
Yeah I think he expands on ideas and concepts from Lucas while still leaving tons of questions. That’s a difficult task to do. But the only way to be successful in adding to the story. If you disagree I’d love to know how you add to the story and lore without expanding it and also leaving more questions for the audience. The mortis and world between world arcs leave a lot of questions (IMO).
@@danotto8970 I wouldn't add anything new about the force, I would keep it OG mystical. And the world between worlds is just a fancy version of time travel. And time travel is NEVER a good idea for a show that isn't supposed to be goofy and where the story isn't as important. Time travel makes every decision, death and event absolutely meaningless.
I also don't consider Mortis or those silly father, daughter and son characters cannon. Why? Because it ruins the mystic of the force. The original jedi considered both the dark and the light to be of the same "being" if you will.
Remember when the force was almost philosophical, some mysterious force that seemed to have some sort of intention or purpose greater than us in the world. Not a stupid fight between teenaged siblings and their single dad. Also if these characters are cannon, Abeloth is also cannon right? How is it that the portrayal of THE darkside being this stupid teenagelike character is far less horrifying than Abeloth?
That's like saying that a man can be more horrifying than the devil himself if you were a christian.
Instead of trying to add to the story, why don't they flesh out the already existing one? There's so many good characters in Star Wars that we've yet to see. Which there is PLENTY of material for already. Life of a younger Thrawn, The Chiss Ascendency, The Grysks, Bane, Banes apprentice, Revan, all the Sith Lords up to order 66, the first force users. Hell I could write you an entire essay of good material that already exists, that does nothing more than to add to the already existing story. Hell you can even make new characters "in the past" that made huge impacts on the "main story".
All I want is for them to stop making changes that makes the original story "less."
When it comes to portraying interacting with a dead relative or friend in a dream, I don't think I've seen a scene more perfect than this. They are ghostly and otherworldly in appearance, but still very human. They resemble themselves as you remember, but there is something different from their physical bodies. Most important, they don't interact with you as you would normally alive. Your disbelief in seeing them in the flesh again almost makes you question your sanity. They either keep their distance or remain very silent only somewhat talking to you as if it takes a lot of energy to communicate beyond the grave.
If u watch the last ep of Asoka the symbols when they opened the map are like the wolves Ezra saw when opening the world between worlds. When she picked up the map it burned into her hand I think that gave her access to the world between worlds which I believe will give her access to follow them to the other galaxy where Thrawn and Ezzra are
This isn’t Indiana jones
Jk interesting theory
I think her access to the World Between Worlds has to do with her connection to the Sister rather than anything else I think with the help of that orb though she was perhaps able to find it however through the Force to go there.
Theory.. Actually we first saw the World Between Worlds in SW Rebels Season One Episode 10, a glimpse of it. Check minute 17:30 and ahead when Ezra gets his Kyber cristal.. Before he gets there, inside the temple we see the same letters on the wall like the letters in the map on Seatos
Um actually 🤓☝
You’re absolutely right! Just went back and watched it. Great pull by you!
we also saw the circular portals in the fathers castle in the clone wars
i like the idea i have heard that the portals are shatterpoints, you can't see every part of the past or future, just the major events that could change huge parts of the timeline
I really enjoyed seeing the World Between Worlds in Ahsoka, looking forward to seeing more of that in the next episode.
Just go watch Marvel movies...
Not going to be much different.
They started with multiple worlds, like Asgard, before the multiverse crap, same thing is going to happen here. Now there's more than one Galaxy. There's ALREADY time travel. Not going to be long before they introduce parallel universes imo... lazy and derivative, just marvel with Star Wars packaging. ✌😕
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@@draconianemanations2785 if the new universe/timeline is the legends timeline I’m game
@@cflasch75Disney, take notes.
@@draconianemanations2785shut up
There is no “both instances”. There is only one. Ahsoka ALWAYS survived because Ezra ALWAYS saved her. In S2, it’s not revealed to us how she survived, but it’s because Ezra from the future saved her. It’s a paradox.
It would be cool if we get a small live action snippet of Ahsokas battle with darth Vader while shes in the world between worlds
Awesome wish we could know more about this realm I’m a fan of the World between worlds
Just go watch Marvel movies...
Not going to be much different.
They started with multiple worlds, like Asgard, before the multiverse crap, same thing is going to happen here. Now there's more than one Galaxy. There's ALREADY time travel. Not going to be long before they introduce parallel universes imo... lazy and derivative, just marvel with Star Wars packaging. ✌😕
@@draconianemanations2785No it’s not. Anakin might show Ahsoka force visions and possibilities, but the WBW is a paradox. It doesn’t have the ability to change the timeline. It’s not possible, unless they retcon it and give it that ability. Time travel works totally different in marvel because there are no paradoxes.
@@draconianemanations2785entirely different writers. Filoni been writing star wars for as long as I can remember I've been watching his SW content since I was a kid.
I’m totally stoked for the WBW it combines so much from both Clone Wars and Rebels. Can’t wait to see how Dave brings this all together, and the implications of it.
time travel never works well for stories unless it was a fundamental part of the story in the first place
it just makes me think why not just go save qui gon now or stop palpatine from being born LOL
@@ncgibrahim3242because they know not to mess with the will of the force
You don’t find it… strange / unusual that Filoni essentially created a Tremendously … lore / changing - cracking (potentially) ‘thing’ (WBW) … which was never seen or heard from before in decades of SW lore (either Lucas / EU / or Disney) ? I just hope they don’t mess up anything too badly
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@@AlekTrev006 it was in both season 3 of Clone Wars & Rebels season 4
I’m not big on time travel either... But if they decided to retcon sequel trilogy and give us the Luke we deserve, I wouldn't be upset 🤣
Great video. Only nitpick I have is that Filoni explained it’s not time travel. He likens it to like a library where you can see timelines specific to yourself, to gain knowledge and wisdom.
He says when Ezra pulled Ahsoka in, it didn’t change her fate, or the galaxy’s timeline; it didn’t disrupt the timeline - but that he didn’t understand that and he tied to pull Kanan in thinking he could save him.
Ezra can’t go into a portal. He was able to pull Ahsoka in, but he couldn’t go to Malachor. And she knew she shouldn’t go to Ezra’s entrance.
So the most one could do would be to see the future and try to prevent it by going back to the current timeline.
But you can’t go back into the past to change anything.
i wonder if plagueis had his own way to see into the world between worlds, thats how he knew how to set up the clone wars so well before showing palpatine then palpatine unlifeing him lol
Here’s how I think the next episode SHOULD go:
Anakin and Ahsoka talk about their adventures, and Anakin reveals to her how he and Skoll know each other. After that, Ahsoka talks about how she regrets not saving him and not being there. Anakin pauses. “Come with me. Let me show you something.” He takes her to a portal where we see him killing the last of the Separatist leaders on Mustafar. Anakin pushes her in and closes the portal. The dark side Anakin is at first overjoyed to see her, but when she tries to convince him to stop, it evolves into an argument about how she left him. At a time of him overcome by darkness, it becomes this (and make sure you grab a tissue, because it’s about to get emotional): Anakin: “Ahsoka. Why did you leave? Where were you when I needed you?” Ahsoka: “I made a choice. I couldn’t stay.” Anakin: “…It was SELFISH. What you did.” (Crying) “N-no…” “You abandoned me! You FAILED me!” His Sith eyes dim, turning into his natural blue, and as he ignites his lightsaber, we see his face clearly, a tear rolling down his cheek. “Do you know what I’ve become?” With a final defiant “NO”, a fight ensues as Anakin tries to kill her, Ahsoka crying the whole time, begging him to stop, saying EVERYTHING she wanted to say, but Anakin doesn’t say a word. Finally, at the end of it:
Ahsoka: “I’ll never leave you again! I promise!” Anakin, who was preparing to cut her down, slowly lowers his lightsaber. His robe flowed with the planet’s heat. The only noise there was were the waves of the lava. But to them, it was complete silence, as though in the vacuum of space. Anakin looks away, a final tear rolling down his cheek. He looks back down at Ahsoka. And with a blink of his eyes, the worst happens: Anakin: (His eyes returning to Sith yellow) “Then you will DIE.” He lifts his lightsaber up, and just before he cuts her down, Anakin from the World Between Worlds pulls her through. When she recovers, she drops to her hands and knees, and begins sobbing. Anakin gets down on one knee, and hugs her. Anakin: (Smiling softly) “It was NEVER your fault, Snips.”
idk i dont think anakin would wanna put her through that
It would be beautiful!
@@Raimi54420 Well, Tales Of The Jedi has him endlessly putting her through intense training to make sure she can survive anything. This would simply be another instance of that.
"Again."
@@Raimi54420 It would be the best way for her to understand that there was nothing she could do. It would be painful for her, but that’s how the truth is.
Just played this out in my head. Amazing shit. Doubt this scenario happens, but that’s a cool concept
Great video, that was a good explanation for the general public to at least understand what the place is. Nice job!
The World Between Worlds is here, so we either welcome it or not. However, Dave has kept things quite authentic so far, which makes me want to welcome it (I haven't watched Rebels).
The World between Worlds is awesome, I want to know more about it's history
Just go watch Marvel movies...
Not going to be much different.
They started with multiple worlds, like Asgard, before the multiverse crap, same thing is going to happen here. Now there's more than one Galaxy. There's ALREADY time travel. Not going to be long before they introduce parallel universes imo... lazy and derivative, just marvel with Star Wars packaging. ✌😕
Watch the Clone Wars Animated show and Rebels... it opens the lore, I like the angle as its not so much time travel... same with the Whills that was mentioned for a short in Rogue One, which I actually thought was Disney's best feature film of Star Wars, they could've done so much if they just listened to fans instead of the WOKETARDS.
I greatly appreciate the refresher. As always, love the vids Mr. Theory!!
next episode gonna be so fire
We need a live action series that doesnt focus on any one character or event or timeline. We get tons of standalone episodes from all across the universe, and the way it ties in to the other shows is that someone is watching these through portals in the world between worlds
0:47 “Still wasn’t physically in the world” Palpatines hand :😶
Next episode, are we going to see a greatest hits from Dave's animated universe, BUT IN LIVE ACTION!?
ngl that'd be dope
I’m so ready for episode 5.
I hope anakin has taken his place as the new 'father' balance of the force part, maybe ahsoka is meant to be the new version of thr daughter, and someone else not sure who maybe maul or nobody and its the same darkside dude as the son.
Was thinking the same!!! At least that it made sense for anakin to be there as he was supposed to replace the father. And Ashoka sort of is his little daughter
Something Baylan said to Ashoka has me really thinking. About how she abandon Anakin when he needed her the most. Just before he turns to the dark side. And then all of a sudden, there is Anakin, just before he fell. In a place where Ashoka can change the timeline. Imagine if this happens. This would change EVERYTHING!.
They're not going to mess with the Skywalker saga. Changing Anakins ark, Felony would never stand for it .
you put out the best videos
Hey guys I hope your all having a great day, thanks for posting today theory
Next episode's gonna be wild
Ashoka’s plot armour is insane
Next episode gonna be so good
If Dave is given charge of everying and Kathlene is kicked out, I wouldn't mind him using it to make the sequals defunct and instead going through a different branch of the timeline.
Then the new sequels would have to tons of deepfake and AI or it has to be animated.
@@ocdab0ss049 You could easily just focus on mark's new order, and write leia and solo to be doing important stuff
@@ocdab0ss049there doesn't need to be sequels at all. Just continue forward from the Mando verse
same can't wait for the next episode
The World Between Worlds is a great idea and I love it but yeah it could definitely cause some issues. That said, I don't think any proper Jedi would go about changing the past, looking into possible futures sure because they do that all the time anyway just not to that scale and magnitude. But I do think the World Between Worlds could be used to set up some interesting work arounds. For instance no need to travel through Hyperspace just walk around until you find a door that opens to Sabine or Erza wherever they are.
It CANNOT cause issues because it is impossible to change the timeline with it. How do none of you understand this? Probably just because you take Theory’s word for it, but he’s wrong. It’s literally a PARADOX, meaning you CANNOT change the timeline. Ahsoka ALWAYS survived the fight with Vader because Ezra ALWAYS saved her. He already saved her when we experienced the fight in Season 2. There was another Ezra in the WBW. It is a PARADOX.
i hope they come out with a anakin show or sumn that’s all i’m asking for fr bc how you gonna have to chosen one and not have no OP lore of the shit he did as anakin or darth vader, please dave bless us
Darth JJ and Darth Kathy made Rey the Chosen One
@@DS9TREK and we will never accept that LMAO it’s not even canon
I think you kind of mis-understood the WBW's. It doesn't allow you to mess with time unless that is destined to happen. So think of it like this; Ezra was able to save Ahsoka because that had already happened. So you can't go back in time and kill Luke for example before he is meant to die and because he doesn't die from someone stabbing him through a portal, you can't do that from the WBW.
But as an example we do not fully see how the Palpatine dies outside of dropping and seeing an explosion, so in that instance there could be a moment where someone pulls Palpatine into the WBW and shoots something to make that explosion happen. That, if yo uthink about it would be the ONLY real way for Palpatine to have survived the explosion.
2:03 : “Imagine going to some place like this where-“ “GET GROCERIES EFFORTLESSLY.”
The second quote is an advert for Uber Eats that could NOT have been more perfectly timed. Made my day 😂
THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS
Awesome Video!!! I'm Excited to see more of The World Between Worlds in Live Action!!!
I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE NEXT EPISODE!!!!!!! With Ahsoka AND Anakin in it I think it's Going to be One of The Best Episodes Ever!!!
You are worried about what you can "see" in this world through this video but missing the fact that ezra discovered how to avoid death?!! (ahsokas death) that is way bigger impact, especially for a sith.
I feel like this show is primarily made for the fans but at the same time it might be doing something like this in live action simply to introduce it to more people.. Sort of hoping the hardcore fans of rebels wont mind it happening twice. Even though we all speculated the WBW might keep ahsoka alive a little too long. I really hope filoni has her death planned, during heir to empire movie maybe
I actually forgot that Ezra had to touch botht he Daughter and the Son on the mural. This implies that only someone who could wield the Light Side and the Dark Side could access it.
Which means Palpy would have bit shit out of luck, unless Vader could still do it.
The mythology videos like this are the best. Could you put them all in a Playlist or other specific sections on the channel?
Amazing video man
Thank you so much
Greetings from Germany…
May the force be with you…
I like to think that the force kind of chooses who can access it. That way there is no real time travel, only those things happen that have to happen. And that’s also why palpatine couldn’t access it.
I like this. A fatalistic view on the “time travel” stuff. Not just Willy Nilly
@@drown_n Unfortunately head canon can be a tricky thing😅
The force decides who can access it: meaning the writers decide and use it at their convenience
I agree on time travel. Cheapens things.
There is a really good clip from the Season 4 Rebels Blu Ray where Filoni explains the WBW. He basically says that it has nothing to really do with time travel. Just look up "Dave Filoni on World Between Worlds"
Exactly because it’s a paradox, so no matter what it can’t change the timeline. Theory clearly doesn’t understand this.
That was a really good explanation. Good video!
I need to watch this so I can explain to my dad what’s happening, he got so confused at the end he thought for sure Ashoka was dead 😂
The multi verse is definitely at play here .
I haven't seen anyone say this, and I think it's very crucial. The World Between Worlds will only show you what it wants you to see, so it cannot be meddled with. You can't just open a portal to an exact time and control it, it will only show you what the force allows. The force will guide you through the WBW in the same way it dictates every event.
I really enjoyed your video discussing Ahsoka's Fall. I have my own theory, which is that her final trial will be similar to Kanan's. The Force will compel her to confront her former master in his true form, forcing her to confront and ultimately let go of the attachment and grief she still carries with her. I also believe there's a possibility that we might see Anakin knighting her during this ordeal.
Star Wars fans must be reminded that: Star Wars is a sci fi series. Everything you expect in a great sci fi is supposed to be embodied in both Star Wars and in the upcoming Galaxy Wars.
I think will bring balance to ahsoka she will see no matter if she stayed or left nothing would have changed. Which will make her more powerful with the force.
I don't know enough to really make a big inference here, but I wanna know your perspective on this. Is it possible that Dave could use the Clone Wars -> Rebels -> Mandalorian/Ahsoka setup to create a separate timeline? One where *technically* 7-8-9 still exists, but in its own bubble. Can they can create (or alter) a whole new timeline with the stories they've setup? Cal Kestis, Ahsoka, Mando, Grogu, etc.
Just curious, since this would be an easy way to either alter the past or create a new timeline. Everything could happen everywhere all at once. So, the events of 7-8-9 can *exist* but we could tell a new story with a different ending in the same setting. It doesn't devalue events, since they'd still exist and happen, but we're able to delve into the idea of balance.
There are timelines where the Force creates balance (or "wins"), and there are timelines where the Dark Side creates balance (or "wins"). I'm not super fond of the idea of time travel to alter the "main timeline" but I do enjoy the idea of "everything, everywhere, all at once" to tell multiple stories so we aren't shoehorned by specific creative mistakes along the way. I could be misinterpreting things here, as I'm no expert, but I do enjoy the idea.
If they were going to create a different timeline they would've said so during Star Wars Celebration. They had that big graphic of all the eras. Mando verse is the New Republic era and it's followed by the First Order era(the sequels), and that goes into Rey's New Jedi Order era.
I wish it were different, but Kathy and Dave are going all in on the sequel trilogy.
I wish they could do that, but the WBW is a paradox, meaning you can’t change the time NO MATTER WHAT. Ahsoka ALWAYS survived because Ezra ALWAYS saved her.
The timeline was NOT changed when Ahsoka was pulled by ezra, even at the end of that fight we got signs that she could still be alive by then, this is more of a fixed event, same as why ezra couldn't save Kanan or why Ahsoka couldn't just use it to save anakin from palpatine and things like that
EXACTLY. Any notion that this could lead to a retcon of the Sequel Trilogy is simply wishful thinking, nothing more.
@@Hard_Boiled_Entertainment yeah at the very best they can use it to bring Ben solo back and even that is stretching it
@@corruptpixel8441the very best is bring Luke back
@@DS9TREK considering they already showed him as a ghost I think is hard, not impossible but there's already the precedent that he is factually dead
Exactly. I wish they could retcon the sequels, but the WBW is a paradox. Starting to think the rest of the audience is stupid because they can’t understand this. Ahsoka ALWAYS survived because Ezra ALWAYS saved her.
I’m just happy we are in this position with Star Wars… where we actually are engaged with what’s happening and not pissed
A little of topic but I hope we get another sith type character working with thrawn in the new galaxy.
Like, say...Joruus C'Baoth? 🤔
@@Hard_Boiled_Entertainment kinda… I don’t think we will ever see him, I want to see this new galaxies version of the sith or something adjacent to that.
I been seeing other videos about the world between worlds according to Dave folini its not other time lines but Knowledge
So I think Dave Filoni clarified that the wbw was not time travel
Thanks for explaining this
love you theory
Hope they can use this concept to redo the sequel...
In legends, there was sith sorcery and magick. Some of the old republic sith lord's new powerful abilities
Imho the World between Worlds make the stakes in Star Wars feel shallow. And something tells me it only exists just so Dave can get Ahsoka back from the dead.
Great video!
If palpatine had gotten into this world…. My god, he would make his own timeline where he wins in every possible way. Of course, the best possible outcome of him not being there in the old timeline would be fantastic
His granddaughter is the new face of SW . Though she destroyed him about a quarter of hisndna lives through her. Rey is also a honorary Skywalker. watever that means. Palpatine wins. All the true Skywalkers are gone. Team Palpatinen wins again.
No, Palps would try, but whatever he would do would CAUSE the timeline to happen because the WBW acts as a paradox.
I don't mind it so much, but we will have to see how the World Between Worlds (WBW) is handled my Dave. I really didn't like the implementation of the multiverse in the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU), since it felt like the stakes in movies like Endgame were entirely removed. However, I really enjoy time loop movies where the main character is forced to investigate and fix the "problem" in the plot, or else they will keep looping through time forever. Hopefully we will see how Dave utilizes the WBW in a way that makes sense and doesn't remove stakes and consequences. In Dave we trust 😆
You CANNOT change the timeline with the WBW. Dave has already explained this. Ahsoka ALWAYS survived the fight with Vader because Ezra ALWAYS saved her. It’s just not revealed to us until S4.
Did you notice in the end of the the arc (end of season 2) we saw Ahsoka? (20:59-Twilight of the apprentice part 2)
Yes it’s because Ahsoka ALWAYS survived the fight with Vader because Ezra ALWAYS saved her. That IS the timeline. You CANNOT change it. Ezra from the future saved her in S2. We just didn’t know it until S4.
The WBW will explain how Snoke has been around since the beginning of the Empire, how Palpatine was saved from the 2nd Death Star, and how Palpatine spoke to Ben Solo as “every voice that has ever been in his head”.
I've long felt everything about the Grand Inquisitor pointed to Snoke. Especially when the comics had him as a Dark Side ghost Luke had to face. Palps could have had that essence put in a new body, hence "I _made_ Snoke!"
@@Hard_Boiled_EntertainmentThis is what’s wrong with the comics. In that comic, Vader tied the grand inquisitor’s spirit to that place. But Vader obviously doesn’t have that kind of power, so it’s not believable at all and you could never translate that to the screen.
5:56 mortis was implied to be outside the normal rules of time as well
Disney and Kethleens SW is also believed to be outside normal rules of time too. lol
Whats the fuss with Anakin’s face? Nothing looks wrong with it.
You were right SWT! I've been rewatching the Clone Wars and Season 6 episode 12, Destiny, the force spirits tell yoda, "We have achieved what you seek and live between the realms." That has to mean The World Between Worlds. So that's where the force ghosts reside
I love your theory moving forward. My fingers are crossed
I just wish we could see some Mustafar moments, but I don't think there was a budget for that:(
I would LOVE a flashback to a younger ashoka, with Ashley doing the voice! Just 1 or 2 lines would be perfect!!
And now Anakin is the overseer of the world between worlds.
Star Wars Theory, there's nothing as deep as you may think with the World Between Worlds. The World Between Worlds is what Kenobi said in the New Hope: "The Force is what gives a Jedi his power. It's an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us. It binds the galaxy together". And since the Mortis Family relates to Light, Dark and Balance of the Force, it's only natural to see them connected to the World Between Worlds.
I enjoy the concept and Ahsoka going but not through almost dying because that means there can never be stakes or have to worry about any danger sense she always get saved by someone in the world between worlds. It’s been done twice which makes it super cheap. Also I think Anakin is embodying all of the force both dark and light which is why his cloak is black.
REMEMBER: Ezra TRIES to change the past...but Ahsoka makes clear that can't happen. We already saw in the episode with the original fight that she seems to survive. PLUS, remember Filoni himself made clear the WBW has nothing to do with full-on time travel. So anyone thinking this may lead to a decannonizing of the Sequel trilogy...that ain't gonna happen.
We knew that however it could establish a new timeline where the events of the sequel trilogy didn't happen.
@@takerweapon1 Only inasmuch as a "What if?" kinda episode.
But she survived because Ezra pulled her out of time and into the WBW. If that time travel maneuver didn’t exist she would have died.
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Is it really the Dark Side that the Son is meant to represent? Or is it Darkness? Remember, the Son represents one side of the balance, he was needed as a counterpart to his sister and vice versa. Although the Son became a Dark Sider I woulnd't say that necessarily means he was evil from the beginning. Even at the end he still had more Love in him than Palpatine.
The Dark side is Evil itself but darkness, shadow, destruction and death are not necessarily bound to the Dark Side as these things are neither good or evil but essential aspects of the universe.
Darkness is needed to keep the balance intact while the Dark Side is all about disturbing the balance.
So, maybe, as suggested by The Clone Wars itself, maybe the Son originally was a rather good guy.
They should make a WBW show in the same vein of Quantum Leap; just a guy/girl/droid Force-tripping through the past, present, and future of the SW universe.
I think that if we DO see what would have happened to Ahsoka if she had been the one to confront Anakin on Mustafar, it would be Anakin winning and be a full strength Vader, leading to untold suffering throughout the Galaxy. It would be an emotional gut-punch to Ahsoka, BUT it may also resolve her inner conflict that somehow what Anakin became was her fault.
Hoping Dave Filoni will use “the world between worlds” to reverse the Sequels storyline and write a totally new force awakens with an exceptional Luke, Han, and a Luke daughter Rey this time!
I think we'd have to go to a real alternative universe to see that 😢
Well this explanation is just theoretical, even dave says it's not time travel and meddling with the past will destroy the future, and you can only fully exit where you entered. Now does that mean that ahsoka destiny was to always be pulled to this place (daughter of mortis) or does she always survive that encounter with vader anyway so interfering does impact the future, who knows, but you can't just change what you want, hence why kanan can't be saved for example
No, she ALWAYS survived the fight with Vader BECAUSE Ezra ALWAYS saved her. That IS the timeline. It is impossible to change it. Nothing changed. Like in Harry Potter.
what is the reflection after they come out of the portal? It looks like a couple purge troopers and someone else...
I am hoping we will broaden our knowledge regarding this realm in Episode 5 of Ahsoka, if not later in the series. Dave has evidently been planning to incorporate this realm into the Star Wars universe for many years and its introduction is clearly expanding on George Lucas' vision for Star Wars.
We are actually first unknowingly introduced to this realm in Rebels' S1E10 where Ezra obtains a kyber crystal. And as far as I'm aware, visitors to this realm are unable to simply open a portal and walk through it. This means they cannot simply conjure moments in time and access them by their own free will. In Ezra's case, the moments that do appear involve events that are significant to him, and closely connected persons. This is why he sees Kanan on Lothal and Ahsoka on Malachor. Nor do visitors seem to possess an ability to alter a timeline. This would probably be considered time travel, which is what Filoni has said the WBW is not really about. Instead he claims it's about knowledge, perhaps like a library. Containing every moment in time that has ever happened and ever will happen. I'm not sure if that means a person can directly intervene via a portal because that's exactly what it seems like, but perhaps instead visiting these moments enables a person to influence the universe to achieve their own goals regardless if they know certain events have/will happen.
The thing is, Ezra pulling Ahsoka through his portal into this realm didn't appear to significantly alter the timeline. In both instances, she survived Malachor. I say this because she didn't die in Rebels' S2E22 originally. Despite Kanan and Ezra thinking she perished on Malachor, she is shown as having survived and leaving the site at the end of the episode, and clearly not in the World Between Worlds either. Moreover, we are told by Filoni during a previous interview that Ahsoka had to leave the WBW when Ezra 'saves' her through the same portal she entered into the realm with, which would return her to that moment with Vader on Malachor. She could not leave the WBW through another portal without destroying the natural balance of the universe, and she seemed to know that.
However, we do know that Ahsoka died in the Mortis realm during TCW. Despite Anakin, Obi-Wan and Ahsoka having no recollection of their time on Mortis, Ahsoka was killed by the Son and resurrected by Anakin and the Father by using the Daughter's life essence, which is presumably why Morai has been following her ever since. We also know that once they returned to the known galaxy, only a few moments had passed despite having spent days in the Mortis realm. I believe that this is also applicable to the World Between Worlds, especially since both realms are directly connected via The Ones from Mortis.
As for the ending of Episode 4 of Ahsoka, I remember during TCW that Anakin was supposed to take over from the Father as the Chosen One, maintaining the balance between the the light and dark. It was prophesised by the Father whilst near-death that despite having declined the Father's invitation to remain on Mortis, he would fulfil his destiny. Moreover he is told during this scene after having killed the Son, that he has brought balance and must do so again for the galaxy, but to remain wary of his heart. We can safely presume this refers to Padmé. I do wonder then, having redeemed himself in Return of the Jedi by destroying the Sith, did he fulfil his destiny and succeed the Father as the Chosen One after his death, thereby explaining his appearance in the World Between Worlds? Or something else?
Just asking, did you notice that Anakin just appeared in the world between worlds even though we didn’t see him in the overview shot where we saw Ahsoka lie on the floor?
Now we need Rex
i'm very curious to learn more about the World between worlds so many different possibilities
So many different ways to continue ruining Star Wars
Just go watch Marvel movies...
Not going to be much different.
They started with multiple worlds, like Asgard, before the multiverse crap, same thing is going to happen here. Now there's more than one Galaxy. There's ALREADY time travel. Not going to be long before they introduce parallel universes imo... lazy and derivative, just marvel with Star Wars packaging. ✌😕
@@eheeb79 that's true given their record and history letting us down.
@@draconianemanations2785 i kinda know they doing the time travel multiverse now. but i honestly haven't watched anything from Marvel Since Endgame. they mostly lost me Post-Endgame
Now I'm hoping you're right about the "Mustafar what-if" scenario, exciting stuff....
Hey Theory, thanks for this explanation man, I really needed it. LOL. So far, I'm in Season 3 of Clone Wars with more Seasons & episodes to go & then onto Rebels. But with the Ahsoka show progressing as quickly as it has, I'm looking for any material that'll explain certain events, places, characters that lead up to the show. Basically give me a gist of everything so I'll understand the Ahsoka series a lot better.
oof... i forget if Disney has an option of Ahsoka specific episodes, but when you hit the last 4 epsiodes of the final clone wars season, i envy you getting to see them for the 1st time ❤
Don’t listen to Theory on the WBW. He’s wrong. It CANNOT change the timeline because it works as a paradox. If you wanna understand, go watch the last arc of Rebels S2, then watch the episodes in S4 where Ezra makes it into the WBW from the Jedi temple on Lothal.
The story of how the World between Worlds intertwines w/ Star wars has not yet been fully hashed out, but ...
In the midst of the sequel era, I thought Snoke was a fallen Whill (which I process as younger versions of the force priestesses that taught Yoda at the end of the Clone Wars). They were powerful entities and created the galaxy/universe, all was perfect. But one of them (Snoke) went against their wishes), and almost-biblically introduced evil (the dark side).
The world between worlds I thought was the Whills' domain, until "the fall." From that point, they existed in the galaxy (universe) and created The Ones to balance the error that resulted (with Jedi / Sith fighting in the foreground)
This sounds like the speed force from the Flash series :P
maybe morai led anakin to save ahsoka from her enar death moment just like moari led ezra to save ahsoka from a similar situation
I think Anakin just modeled his presentation based on how she remembers him, nothing more. It's not the Son.
Star Wars needs to take a page out of what they did in Harry Potter with the time travel. If you are going to introduce time travel in the story, you need to have subtle hints and moments throughout the timeline that imply that the story is being altered, and then reveal what actually happened. What they did in Rebels wasn't even close to this, they just made it all up in an episode and said, here you go Ashoka is saved. Time travel has to be planned out from the beginning otherwise it just comes off a lazy writing to the audience/reader. Another thing, after you are done with the time travel, you have to destroy any device that allows it to close any plotholes. Since we have seen the world between worlds again, they have failed to close any foreseen plotholes.
Burning with excitement for yhe next episode!!
I 100% believe that Palp would save Vader from his loss against Obi if he got access to The World Between Worlds