The director explained in a behind-the-scenes segment that yes, normally the Tiger would pick off the lead tank, but if they killed Brad Pitt off then there's no more movie.
@@leafleap because the division commander was dumb enough to assign Norman, which never killed anyone, to secure his six, getting him and his crew killed, the reason Wardaddy were the leader is because his cannon was the strongest out of the four. Why Fury didnt got shot first? script.
Much respect to anyone, friend or foe, who served their time in a tank. Knowing the whole time that that tank could very well become their tomb. Same with submariners.
ye it's sad that people see all the german soldiers like stupid nazis but it wasn't true at all most of them wanted to just live but if they wouldn't join army they would just killed them.
I feel like a sub was probably even worse tbh because even if you survive an initial attack, when it sinks youre trapped inside until it either completely fills with freezing water or you run out of oxygen in whatever small air pocket you might find, in the dark, at the botton of the ocean... i know they had oxygen tanks for emergencies, but they had a limit to how far theyd take you, once you hit the seabed you were done for really.
Alot of things actually. Tank commanders are taught to take out the lead tank first than the last tank in a convoy to trap the others, the lead is also usually the commander of the convoy. A Tiger would NEVER have left its cover the way it did in the film, even if sight lines are blocked with a smoke shell, the Tiger would have backed up to keep its range advantage. Also the 76mm cannon on Fury would have easily punched through the Tigers frontal plating, the 75mm the other Sherman's have would have bounced at that long range so that part is partly accurate.
This specific Tiger crew was famous in the German Army. They had the slowest loader, the worst driver and the most incapable commander. They only managed one round every three minutes while the German average was 5/ minute.
@@rc59191 no it took ten Sherman’s to take out one Tiger, this is Hollywood bs. A famous German quote is,”It takes ten Sherman’s to take out one tiger. But they always had eleven.”
@@rc59191 You need to do more research, Buddy. It took a very specific spot to be hit on the Tiger for the Sherman do even have a chance . Most Shermans projectiles would just bounce of the Tiger.
German commander: gunner! Aim at last tank in the formation. Gunner: aren't we suppose to shoot at leading tank to stop the column? German commander: are you mad?! There's brad Pitt in that tank! Gunner: jawolh.
@@Kronos0999 Tank in command leads the formation. What do you think would cause more panic, losing their leader, or the tank in the rear of the formation?
@@cawmen you're also wrong. You can tell from the comments from this video that most people here have never been in combat, nor have they been in a tank column.
Or maybe he got concussed? That tank literally took over 15 hits before going down lol...just one of those hits could knock some of the crew out in there.
Tiger tanks have barely enough space for its crew so its pretty obvious that after nore thab 5 hits with 75mm guns tge tiger crew would be all too duzzy to continue thier work and in a study 15 hits from 75mm guns are enough to make the crew of a tiger to get their ears burst out with blood...
Any tank on tank fight is scary. Actually, considering actual statements from allied tank commanders Tigers were the least of their worries. They'd often break down before or during combat.
If I was the screen-writer/director I would've added some well placed "foul language" in Spanish by the Hispanic driver; he does say vámonos at the end
And he could have been wrong, it could be a towed 88 in ambush. I don't doubt a experienced tank commander could tell the difference between an 88 firing and let's say a 75 firing, but I doubt he would tell the difference between a towed 88 and a Tiger firing from that distance without seeing more of the gun.
@@bryanperalta740 To be fair. It is absolutely unfinkable to any tanker anywhere in the world to shoot the tank at the end first. Fury tank should have been destroyed first and movie ended roght here. End of story, absolutely no discusion about that. Scenarists fucked up big way.
My fathers sherman was taken out by an 88. The shot went through the side armour THEN through the engine THEN through the armour on the other side so how the hell does a bit of wood deflect it ????? Totally dumb movie.
@@stevea2685 best guess, plz don't hate me, is the angle. If FURY was completely broadside then wood wouldn't be alive, plus said wood. Plz don't quote me but it might be the case. There was a case of a Sherman avoiding a shell killing it outright because of a telephone poll that took the hit and deflected it saving the crew. It was an part of an episode of Greatest Tank Battles.
Fun fact: There was only about 1400 Tiger Tanks ever produced, so seeing one was a rare sight. Edit: Y’all are wild, I’ve been reading the replies and maaannnn it’s juicy
@@billbaba6994 it’s an interesting fact because if you compare the number of tanks the US and Soviet built, both countries built almost 50 times the amount of tanks than the Germans. With that fact, if you pitted all the tiger tanks against either the Sherman or T34. The Germans would run out of ammo long before the allies ran out of tanks.
@@Luis-be9mi The Tiger wasn't meant to be the contemporary of the T-34 or the Sherman though, that would be the Panzer 4, which had ~8,553 units produced. Which, to be fair is to be expected. The USSR and the USA's production was insane.
Say what you will about this movie. The image of the Tiger slowly driving out of the smoke like a monster revealing itself in the mist still feels badass to me.
it was a poor decision from the commander since they didn't spotted the tiger then, the only thing that they did was putting a smoke in the direction where the shot came from
@shehab976 *most un-realistic you mean lol. No way that tank would have survived, a destroyed transmission and engine AT THE LEAST. But Fury would have been toast
Very intimidating and ahead of it's time just imagine being told one is around or in front of you making your little Tank feel like a toy compared to it but sadly if only it wasn't such a pain to maintain not the good time for it to be ahead.
The really impressive part is that the production crew was able to get a real M4A2E8! The Tigers they sourced are almost equally as rare. Getting them both on a field together will probably never happen again without CGI.
However, some of the "mistakes" in this tank fight can be explained by the reality on the film set. Normally, a real Tiger would have turned on the spot in the fight against several Shermans to get a better firing position or to increase the effectiveness of the armor. However, this Tiger was not a CGI-Tiger, this is the only Tiger still in running condition worldwide, from the Bovington tank museum, the Bovington museum management gave the film crew precise instructions about what they could and could not do or do with this tank. For example, the tank was allowed to move forward and backward, but cornering, as well as turning directly on the tracks, was forbidden. I have once read that the tank mechanics in Bovington are worried when this Tiger is moved for demonstrations. Because if there is something seriously broken, the gearbox, for example, then you can hardly go to the next tank store and order a new one there, which must be made by hand, and that takes a long time and is damn expensive. So it happened that the film crew was highly limited in the use of this one Tiger :)
Granted, the chances of a Tiger I being well-maintained and working reliably in 1945 weren't high to begin with. In addition, the Tiger featured in this clip is the early-model Tiger Ausführung H, meaning its transmission would be that much older and battle-worn in addition to the teething problems the early models experienced. It's arguable that not turning on the spot isn't just because of the realities of filming a museum piece, but is actually accurate to how a Tiger with a worn-out gearbox, suspension, and/or treads might be driven.
They could have used some "movie magic" to pan around the tank with the camera towards the sky to give the illusion of the tank turning, then just move the tank to the correct direction when you cut back. But that would take work and brain power. That's something you don't usually see in Hollywood.
While the tactics are off here, I still can't help but love the way the Tiger strolls forward from the smoke like a menacing killing machine. Imagine the fear of seeing one of these on the battlefield - or even just being an infantryman and seeing a hulking steel beast rumbling towards you.
The spectacle is where this scene succeeds and that is an important part of a ww2 movie, it's not about showing it exactly how it would have gone. It's about showing it in a cool way whilst still respecting the real events and making sense. Just my opinion.
I remember there was a saying: If the Tiger noticed your Sherman and fired first, you are dead. If your Sherman noticed the Tiger and shot the first, you're dead.
Yeah nah, sounds like bullshit. The 76 mm M1A2 gun on M4A3E8 Shermans (like the one Brad is commanding) had no trouble penetrating the Tiger's front armor at several hundred meters.
@@dan8250 But there weren't very many with that setup in the beginning of the campaign, only towards the end did that kind of armament become more commonplace.
He is a good actor, but it’s said that he’s mean behind the scenes during movie filming that’s why directors don’t want him. He is good at acting though
The short 75mm canon on the Sherman's velocity on average was about 2000 fps. The German 88 would be screaming at 2,500 to over 3,000 fps. It sounded like literal death coming your way and thats what made it an all around effective antitank and antiair gun.
That dark choir vocalization at 1:28 was incredible, it really sold the dread of Allied tank crews would feel while staring a Tiger which was almost Satan for that era of tanks. Even when they won, it felt like they lost since it was a 1:3 exchange.
I might be misremembering but I think everyone agreed (Allies and Axis) that 1 Tiger was equal of 10 Shermans, so the United States made sure to bring 11 Shermans to every encounter hah. But It's also sort of a myth as well so it might be untrue as well but its interesting anyways.
I think I read that standard American doctrine in the event of encountering Tigers and/or German armor in general was to actually charge simply because there was almost always more American armor than German and they could overwhelm the German armor; the Germans only produced 1400 or so Tigers and only like 9000-10,000 Panzer IVs vs the 50,000 Shermans built. Actual causalities for tank crews in knocked out Shermans were typically only one member of the crew near the site penetration; they were hardly the death traps some historians portray them to be.
One thing this movie got right is the fact you felt like you were in the battle. The actors did a great job showing fear, adrenaline, and every other emotion. The sounds of the rounds were crazy in the theater, sounded like you actually had a AP round flying passed your head.
except for Brad Pitt, when his head's not in a role you really feel it, he could have actually, literally phoned in all of those flat "Goddamnit" takes for ADR and I wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
I always wondered why they don't build a few more of older tanks and planes just for the fun of it can't think of a great reason why but it's still the same tank if you build it like they did back then
@@jakeshumway9487 I think it mostly has to do with the fact most of the parts used for army vehicles in ww2 are no longer made and discontinued, plus the cost effect to just make them would be alot more higher compared to the price in 1940
I got probably the funniest ad placement watching this clip. At about the 5:40 mark immediately after the German tank commander got machine gunned and fell back into the turret of his tank, a short 5 second Coors ad came up showing a guy cracking open a cold beer smiling and relaxing on a hammock.
This scene may be wrong as Hell, but damn, I loved how realistic the acting was. War Machine's reaction after he saw the shells simply bouncing off the Tiger's thick frontal armor just made me realize how unfortunate you were if you met face to face with this metal beast.
There was a documentary about ww2 where they interviewed tank crews.. Everyone of them picked the tiger if they had to choose which tank they'd rather be in.. Me personally?.. Pershing..
Panzer Mark IV, particularly model f and up, those were good tanks, and actually useful for proper combined arms warfare. Tiger was too slow and used too much fuel.
What choice do they have? The Shermans were designed to be lightweight and faster than German tanks, and the Tiger has them pinned by the woods so the only way the Sherman can beat it is by speeding around the behind where the armor is the weakest. Better take the chances with attacking than waiting and shit.
2:16 Great acting from Logan Lerman. Loved Norman's shocked reaction when he sees the massive, seemingly impenetrable Tiger taking no damage from shots fired at it.
Tbf those 88mm rounds would of been a bit heavier to load than the shermans 76mm round. But I know what your saying. A competent crew should still of been able to fire roughly 8 to 10 rounds a minute if they were on top form.
@@jonparton5082 Don't forget that TIger's turret was super slow and hard to aim from at moving targets. Not to mention that in real life TIger crews would rather retreat and gain distance than try to shoot anything maneuverable at close range.
And the commander and driver were too noobs, did not lean 30 deg to deflect AP, did not cover the underparts to prevent fire and even not use camp to hide the tank
I love how they showed the horror on the driver's face when shots eventually did start hitting the tiger, only for it to riochet off the front, which was *not angled to make it easier for that to happen*
Nah it was angled not to the lead crew as much but those at his end that were hitting couldn’t get a good angle they should’ve shot tracks and stopped it but that’s not as good movie scene
I literally said to my boy when we saw this in theaters when it came out “Why does the Tiger have its own boss music?” And I’m glad I’m not the only one who realizes it 😂 he swore I was just being stupid
2:28 I can't even imagine being the rest of the crew in the tank of the guy who's whole upper body just disappeared. Just seeing a bloody stump of a body slump down into the turret and knowing the next shell is coming to take you out. That would be a terrible final few moments
There is a book called "Spearhead" that is about a Sherman tank gunner's experience in WW2 (highly recommended book). Something similar to what you described actually happened (that I won't spoil). It was very shocking to read about.
I think the Sherman's cannon could actually damage the armor even from the front unlike this movie. The Panther is a bit scarier in that respect I guess.
I read online, so it's true, a quote from a German tank commander, "our tanks are worth 4 of theirs, but they always had five." Even if no one said that it's pretty historically accurate. The tiger was a solo beast of deviating power but confined to a wheelchair. The Sherman packed a lighter punch but was lighter, faster and hunted in packs.
A spider can kill and eat several ants at once, but if there are enough ants, the ants will eat the spider. Yeah the tigers absolutely crushed the allied tanks in any direct combat, but the allies had an endless supply of cheap mass produced crap tanks to swarm the Germans with. This scene is wrong on many many many levels, and the tiger should have easily killed all 4 shermans. The germans would never have advanced like they did, as the tiger's main advantage was range and armor. At distance there was absolutely nothing a sherman could do to even dent a tiger, while a tiger could easily kill them at leisure. (I recall a story of a german tiger being hit literally hundreds of times, and while no longer being mobile, was still able to keep firing.
Well not to the extent you’d think, the fury’s 76mm could and would effectively penetrate the front of a tiger (search up Sherman easy-8) to an extent where German tank commanders would prioritize downing the 76mm tanks as the other 75mm Shermans needed to get far closer. But there’d have not been any drama if this battle was realistic, as that tiger wouldn’t have moved from it’s initial position at all. That quote however, became less and less of a reality as the war progressed is the point I’m making, is2s and Sherman fireflies gave tigers a run for their money.
@@thetommyhawk8244 The easy8 was a late war version of the sherman with a vastly better upgraded gun, and had significantly better armor. They are in early war shermans in this movie, but you would be correct had they been in the upgraded Sherman E8A1s.
The shock, awe and fear of the crews when they realize it’s a tiger says it all. Even such experienced tanker crews feared facing a tiger tank and rightfully so
Actually, Tigers didn't have any effect on the war other than morale boosting and wasting German resources. It's transmission would inevitably break after a couple hundred kilometers or so I think, which is was below the average tank of the time. Besides the poor transmission, they were produced in such small numbers that even if they were great tanks, the Germans would still have lost
@@tristandaries1129 It was a vehicle wich is very likely to break down etc. But still Tiger 1/2 managed to get a Kill Ratio of 1:10. 10 Enemy Tanks for every Tiger destroyed by Enemy fire. If you also consider losses due lack of fuel and mechanical breakdown the ratio was 1:5 . 20.000 Enemy Tanks knocked out didn't had an effect because the allied had combined 150000 of them.
@@marcusstrobl8316actually the allies counted downed a downed tank as one that was momentarily taken out of service while Germans only counted it when the tank was permanently taken out of service
@@tristandaries1129 No they did have an impact, both Tiger 1 and 2 are credited with destroying (at least) 10,300 enemy tanks, and 11,380 AT guns and artillery pieces in WW2. The Allies took the Tiger very seriously, devoting considerable time to tracking their movements.
I once heard an interview from the director, he said yes he knows that the Tiger would have destroyed Fury first in this column but then the movie would be over.
@@Saikyouuu imagine tank game without nerds suicide revenge bombing and half of the team logging out mid game. Both games are meh, war thunder has horrible grind though.
@@Saikyouuu Imagine having a pay to grind system, horrible maps awful community that just logs off in the game and crazy prices for most premium vehicles. Both games have enough Problems that they should focus on them instead of which game is better.
The energy of this scene is absolutely breaking. The crew finally won the fight, but feelings related with loosing their brothers in arms in such crushing circumstances, seeing that one man can treat another one with such hate and soulless made it feel like total loss. Eternal respect for people fighting for their loved ones, humanity and moral rules.
If %100 of the german troops,fighting on the eastern front, had been on the western front,the glorious german army would have scattered the us troops to million pieces
Best part of the movie , it breaks from the typical depiction of ww2 combat being heroic (until the end scene) and shows the brutal, grinding nature that the combat was.
@@michaelram3411 short answer: No they'd not be able to, it'd almost be impossible for Germany to defend itself against a country which is more than 25x larger
My unpopular theory as to why the Tiger crew made maneuvers so improbable they wouldn't happen with any other crew: They had all somehow gotten into Herman Goering's Morphine stash and were all jacked up on it. That would be the only way as to how it would make sense to me.
Tiger tanks were mechanically unreliable and maintenance intensive. USA used medium tanks largely because of the logistical issue of moving them halfway around the world.
@@oldhag2881 thanks for the fun fact, but how does that apply to what I was mentioning? That's like saying "That driver destroyed his sports car when he drove into a stop sign while drunk." and you saying "A truck would be much more sturdy and practical vehicle than a sports car."
Since this scene takes place at the END of the war, the german tank was probably crewed by a bunch of half-trained teenagers by this point. In my own head, that is how I justify this tiger crew's relatively poor performance.
With all if the inaccuracies in this scene, it still shows very well how absolutely horrifying it was to have to battle a tiger in a Sherman. You can scoff at the issues with realism all day long but it leaves the same result anyway. It shows why you don't ever want to find yourself in that situation and makes you glad you never will. Hats off to this film and I gotta give it to Ayer for using tiger 131 for this scene which is the only time a real tiger tank was used in film
In reality I would guess the Tiger would have loosely followed the fleeing Shermans or kept its distance if they advanced toward it, either way allowing for a safe distance to be oblivious to return fire while still being able to destroy the Shermans. That thought of not really seeing the enemy but knowing it has your number somewhere off the in the distance is horrifying. It would cause a sane man to flee the large target and start digging holes in the forest to start a new life.
@@Magneticitist At the range this fight occurred all of the tanks including the Tiger were glass cannons. Even the 75mm guns on the standard M4 Sherman's in this formation could penetrate the frontal armor of the Tiger. Most certainly Fury with the 76mm main gun. In the engagement IN REAL LIFE that killed German Tank Ace Michael Wittman. 3 Shermans ( a formation just like this one which included one firefly and two base M4 Shermans) defeated 3 Tigers at close range (but still further range than this scene) without suffering a single loss. The most unrealistic thing about this scene is how daunting they make the Tiger. At this range, the tiger has lost all of its advantages and the Sherman being quicker and more maneuverable was actually the superior tank. Where the Tiger was a BEAST was at the extent of it's effective range. Where it could accurately and effectively engage targets, but any return fire would be ineffective. In the scenario here in Fury, it's armor was irrelevant. It was too close.
5:43 this moment really emphasizes the feeling of war, we killed our enemy but we also lost our friends and allies in the battle. The way brad Pitt's character looks around and realizes that nobody "wins" or survives on the battlefield they just have to keep fighting to the death each and every day until told otherwise by their superiors.
It just emphasized how bad writing or actors can be . Sure duck back into the cramped tank to get your captured German stg44 with limited chances of resupplying ammunition for,when you have a perfectly good browning belt belt aimed directly at the targets you’re going to be shooting at.
We didn't even scratch them! That one didn't go through! We didn't penetrate their armor! It bounced off! That one ricocheted! Ricochet. We've just dinged them.
@@thegermanfool8953 they think numbers matter the most while not caring about the physics of this stuff. The weather, speed, curve... Hell, even the material of the impact zone dictates the damage that will be done. But yeah, the Tiger would've blown the shit out of FURY if this wasn't a movie
@Giovanni Martinez If that would have been real the leading Sherman would have been the first target then the last one creating a sort of barricade the tanks in the middle can't overcome. This was a common German ambush tactic since they simply didn't have the numbers to fight against the sheer mass of the Allied forces. Then again the Us don't have Air power in the movie so an advantage for the Germans maybe?
The tigers turret was driven by a hydraulic motor that was connected to the engine by a drive shaft The speed of the turret was dependent on the engine RPM So when fury closed and got closer it caused the tiger turret to slow down giving them the advantage
@@Creditwashere negative. The 76mm gun was more than capable of penetrating a Tiger's armor at that range. The other 75mm guns needed that flank. Just another reason why that Tiger would have targeted Fury immediately. An experienced TC (which he obviously was having an Early Tiger 134 alive so late in the war and being a Tiger Ace) would have identified this before the first shot was even fired.
@@dennybarlau8065 Well, we just saw a Tiger move out of perfectly good cover, and charge alone, against a tank platoon that had very little chance of ever penetrating his frontal armor, which conveniently led to a Sherman having a chance to hit his side and rear. If this was anywhere near close to realistic, the Tiger would be reversing instead to keep distance. And when they got in that close, the Tiger would have traversed around his hull to turn its turret quicker and keep his frontal armor at the Sherman instead of continuing to reverse/advance.. And to be fair, at that close distance of less than a hundred meters the Sherman should have been more than able to penetrate the flat frontal armor of the Tiger, instead of keeping on trying to get behind it...
He apparently got so into character that he claimed he was having nightmares and claimed to be a veteran when pulled over by a cop for erratic driving. Shia is more than a bit crazy.
@@charles5895 You dont attack 4 tanks when you are on low ammo. So, no. The reason for not shooting isnt about ammo. I think the gun jammed, its what really happened to most real Tiger tanks.
@@potatojuice5124 Lemme give u an example, have u ever been in a high adrenaline situation? If u haven't been in one yet u basically do anything even if it doesn't make sense, sure the driver was so scared that he just goed backwards
That's right. Facts snd historical accuracy mean squat to you soy milk millenials. How you "FEEL" is all that matters. Go have a good blub in your cry closet.
@@doublep1980 Yeah but historical accuracy is important. Like for instance in real life the Tiger would've hit Fury (which was at the front) to stop the convoy, then shoot the rear tank next and finally pick off the middle tanks. Or the fact that the Tiger commander would've never moved from his position in real life because why would he? He had a perfect ambush position where the Shermans couldn't see the Tiger. Or that the Fury tanks real life counterpart was a M4 Sherman Firefly VC, which was outfitted with a 76.2mm British heavy pounder and used APCBC (Armour Piercing, Capped, Balistic Capped) and APDS (Armour Piercing, Discarding Sabot) shells. It was also the only British tank that could reliably penetrate Panther and Tiger tanks in their frontal armour from a distance of 550 meters. By the way, I'm only using facts stated by historians and a tank veteran themselves, not making all of this up. Even the director of the film stated quote "In WW2, this battle would've ended with the Tiger killing the shermans". If you are into tanks and history then that kinda ruins the immersion in this film. But hey, It's hollywood so atleast the director made a decent and entertaining film. Keep enjoying it and have a nice day.
I think it was pretty accurate overall. When two tank units met, there are three outcomes: a) It is a seal clubbing for your side. While preventing the enemy from making it to c. b) You can drag the enemy into allied AT guns or Rockets c) You somehow have to hit their weak armor - no mater the losses - to not have your unit totally wiped out. A Sherman group fighting a Tiger frontally? It is a seal clubbing for the Tiger A Sherman group charging forward, flanking so at least one can hit the side or aft armor? That is the only chance the sherman has to survive. They were supported by the rather low range here. A Tiger had a effective gunrange of up to 2km. 500-700 meters is a dagerously short distance for any lone tank
@@christopherg2347 this knowledge has actually changed my playstyle in games like Warthunder and world of tanks where, while not entirely accurate, the Tigers do a lot better at range than up close.
@@christopherg2347the front tank, also known as Fury, had the 76mm, and all the others had 75, Fury was also at the front of the convoy so it would probably be the first target, also, the Tiger had good cover and position, so there wasn’t really reason to move, and finally, most tank commanders would have an easier and more accurate shot if they were to stop before firing
A really great addition to this scene was the chatter of the German crew in the Tiger. It gives the impression that they are just a tank crew, in a hellish situation, just like the crew of the Fury. They want to live just as bad.
ne başyapıtı arkadaşım. Tiger ın içinde olsan seni 600mtden vuramayacak bir tankın üzerine mi gidersin yoksa bulunduğun konumdan vurur musun? film baştan aşağı saçmalıklarla dolu. heleki son sahnesi... berbat ötesi bir film...
The reason it is one of my favorite films is the character interactions. Those feelings, conversations, and reactions are insanely accurate. I've literally had those conversations with my truck commanders and squad leaders. It's based on a collection of stories from different units. Just like video games magically have you participate in every famous battle in WWII, this puts Fury into all the legends of the Western Front. I'd say it is really inaccurate, but not unrealistic
Even if you don't like the action you can't deny this is a great looking movie. The white smoke crawling out of the shell holes in the tiger's engine bay after the fight is done is such a beautiful contrast to the breakneck action of the scene before it.
The sherman used smoke to cover their ass... If tiger not move forward and killed them one by one they will be dead when 3 sherman shoot their ass in close range...
It's all for extra movie drama. The tiger had a massive advantage where it was, and moving forward would be pointless. That being said, the Sherman firefly also had a gun that could kill the tiger at range, so it having to get closer was also just for the sake of drama. Not to mention that the tiger commander would have likely spotted that longer barrel and shot the firefly first.
The reason why is because hes never seen a or ever believed a single tank could destroy 3 that’s why in the next scene he says “what the fuck” under his breath because he sees how many rounds bounce off of it
While I’ve learned the strategy of this battle may not be the best the scene is still a beauty when it comes to showing emotion, the desperation shows so clearly as the tanks gets killed and the relief after the tank gets destroyed is fantastic
@@SirEggo2412 Fury would have been taken out first, since they were trained to target the 76 Shermans first. The rest would have been quickly dispatched with no hope of fighting back. The whole thing would have been over within 5 mins.
@@putnamehere3803 well this is in germany who knows mabey he might make it since his final drive is 106km then again it would probably catch fire attempting to climb any hill
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sharman cannot beat Tiger
Was this a "Magic?".
The director explained in a behind-the-scenes segment that yes, normally the Tiger would pick off the lead tank, but if they killed Brad Pitt off then there's no more movie.
A movie twist would be that Brad Pitt and his crew get killed there, and the movie is carried on by unknown actors.
@@royroland3884 that would have been a very interesting twist
So why not put Brad Pitt in the rear and shoot the leader?
Lemme guess, because it wouldnt look as cool?
@@leafleap because the division commander was dumb enough to assign Norman, which never killed anyone, to secure his six, getting him and his crew killed, the reason Wardaddy were the leader is because his cannon was the strongest out of the four.
Why Fury didnt got shot first? script.
Just don't put the main character's tank in the lead of the column. Simple
Much respect to anyone, friend or foe, who served their time in a tank. Knowing the whole time that that tank could very well become their tomb. Same with submariners.
ye it's sad that people see all the german soldiers like stupid nazis but it wasn't true at all most of them wanted to just live but if they wouldn't join army they would just killed them.
I feel like a sub was probably even worse tbh because even if you survive an initial attack, when it sinks youre trapped inside until it either completely fills with freezing water or you run out of oxygen in whatever small air pocket you might find, in the dark, at the botton of the ocean... i know they had oxygen tanks for emergencies, but they had a limit to how far theyd take you, once you hit the seabed you were done for really.
Well typed
Must have been one smelly workplace.
Well said ......well said
The primary reason to love this scene: That is a real Tiger tank! That's Tiger 131, the last operational tank of its class left in the world.
And used in this piece of shit Movie. What a disgrace.
@@mgkpraesi movie was good, you're probably just a history buff that thought it was too inaccurate right
@@Tungskii Agreed, I’m a nerd myself but I love the movie
@@Tungskii dude I'ma history buff, that guys ain't one of us. He's an asshole
@@mgkpraesi Hah stay mad
I know it's not an accurate battle but seeing a real tiger 1 in a movie is awesome.
How's it not accurate?
The tactics used are not historically accurate
@@JAMES_IS_COOL1227 During Tank battles, the enemy tank will usually target the squad leader, in this case, the Fury tank.
Alot of things actually.
Tank commanders are taught to take out the lead tank first than the last tank in a convoy to trap the others, the lead is also usually the commander of the convoy.
A Tiger would NEVER have left its cover the way it did in the film, even if sight lines are blocked with a smoke shell, the Tiger would have backed up to keep its range advantage.
Also the 76mm cannon on Fury would have easily punched through the Tigers frontal plating, the 75mm the other Sherman's have would have bounced at that long range so that part is partly accurate.
Yeah, that ricochet from the 76 at 2:11 is ridiculous
This specific Tiger crew was famous in the German Army. They had the slowest loader, the worst driver and the most incapable commander. They only managed one round every three minutes while the German average was 5/ minute.
@@rc59191 no it took ten Sherman’s to take out one Tiger, this is Hollywood bs. A famous German quote is,”It takes ten Sherman’s to take out one tiger. But they always had eleven.”
This movie overall if you know history was pretty cheesy
@@rc59191 yeah I know but still a tiger crew would not perform this bad
@@rc59191 You need to do more research, Buddy. It took a very specific spot to be hit on the Tiger for the Sherman do even have a chance . Most Shermans projectiles would just bounce of the Tiger.
@@michaelv6870 exactly thank you
German commander: gunner! Aim at last tank in the formation.
Gunner: aren't we suppose to shoot at leading tank to stop the column?
German commander: are you mad?! There's brad Pitt in that tank!
Gunner: jawolh.
That was the smart move to take out the rear tank so the front ones would panic in the confusion.
@@Kronos0999 Tank in command leads the formation. What do you think would cause more panic, losing their leader, or the tank in the rear of the formation?
@@Aaleg you're wrong.
@@cawmen you're also wrong. You can tell from the comments from this video that most people here have never been in combat, nor have they been in a tank column.
@@JPerry-jw9ik umm, yeah... You know that majority of population aren't soldiers right? I mean, what did you expect.
The loader in the tiger had a stroke or something mid battle.
Or maybe he got concussed? That tank literally took over 15 hits before going down lol...just one of those hits could knock some of the crew out in there.
Same could be said about Fury’s crew, but they turned out fine lol
Tiger tanks have barely enough space for its crew so its pretty obvious that after nore thab 5 hits with 75mm guns tge tiger crew would be all too duzzy to continue thier work and in a study 15 hits from 75mm guns are enough to make the crew of a tiger to get their ears burst out with blood...
Pretty sure the reverse manuever was meant to dodge a shot, got left on the cutting boars
Actually when the tanks are close to each other it takes more rotation to aim so takes longer to get shots out
1:27 "His roar was like that of the devil"
Can you tell me that background music
@@prashantdubey6515From the movie’s soundtrack, “Tiger Battle” by Steven Price
Porsche engine bro
@@Lithium10032no, this is Maybach
He has a roar similar to an AMG
2:06 this ricochet was honestly one of the coolest parts of the fight, the whistle and tracer made me feel things I’ve never felt before
The scene in the field where one of the tanks gets hit with the PaK88 is upto there too
@@praetorxian PaK-40 yes, 75mm
@@praetorxian -- The Tiger had an 88 , right? Brad Pit said an 88.
@@jamesdeich6102hrs talkimg about a scene earlier in the movie
@@jamesdeich6102 yes. 8.8cm gun, same as the 88 aa flack gun
" ITS A GODAMN TIGER " imagine hearing those words back then....
The PTSD and the infamous stories your fellow tankers told you would've flowed through your head. Might've froze at the spot
Well imagine hearing ITS A GODAMN KING TIGER
its funny cause American soldiers rarely ran into tigers, most of the time they'd mistake a panzer or something for a tiger
Any tank on tank fight is scary. Actually, considering actual statements from allied tank commanders Tigers were the least of their worries. They'd often break down before or during combat.
@@Rerosempire i was gonna make a joke about early Panther final drives but nah I wont
Fun fact: You earned 0 silver lions from this battle, and it will cost you 10,000 to repair the "damaged" Shermans... Welcome to War Thunder
Warthunder is so grindy and unrealistic
@@borris3768 it’s grindy and unrealistically realistic.
Eg. Getting gaijin’d lmao
But it’s kinda fun.
i cant play warthunder cus it crashes with ryzen 3 processors
@@worlore1651 Hello, I can play between 30 and 60 FPS with AMD Ryzen 3 3200G and 16GB Ram.
???
1:42 That guy's shock, they way he talks/cry. That sold the scene for me
Yea the voice breaking when he says “fire” just to miss after is great. He’s moving in his seat and getting my frustrated and anxious, amazing actor.
Brad William Heineke (I think that was his last name) was great in everything he was in, he played Tom in The Stand remake and did a great job
He sold this scene it wouldn’t be the same without him.. I was on my edge of my seat because of how dire he felt
Let’s be honest shai labeouf was the best actor in this cast, it’s a shame he lost his mind
Fun fact: The tiger in this scene is actually a real working Tiger
Yep its the last workimg tiger în the world (tiger 131)
No way?
That's actually pretty neat.
I wonder who is in possession of this tank? A museum I guess?
@@YaowBucketHEAD Yes a museum from Britain(they captured this tank în Tunisia North Africa in 1942 and remains there since than.
There’s only one functioning one left so I’d assume it’s either that one or a replica.
@@YaowBucketHEAD yes it belongs to the bovington tank museum in England and it's the last working tiger 1 tank in the world
Screen writer "l need some dialogue for Brad Pitt."
Director "God dammit!"
Screen Writer "THAT'S IT! "
"write that down, write that down!"
If I was the screen-writer/director I would've added some well placed "foul language" in Spanish by the Hispanic driver; he does say vámonos at the end
@@sheldonjplanktonn Waitwait...what about..."goddamit...FUCK"? ya?
😂😂😂
What else do you say in a fight like this?
"they got Peterson"
no shit they got Peterson, popped his head like a damn grape
😁😁
Nah, he'll be fine. Little bit of Oxycodone and he'll be right as rain.
i find it kinda funny that he said that only AFTER Peterson's tank was destroyed, and not when his head got popped. lol
Sounds like a COD line
You need to get hired
the shell hit em
"That was an 88, it's a goddamn Tiger!"
Love that part.
He said tank
no@@ItsMinarmy
no, he said "that's an 88, it's a goddamn tank" then after his crewman' comments he confirmed it. "I see it, it's goddamn Tiger!"
@@jimyang9889 Yes people. I get it. Who cares. I love that part is my point. Geesh. Lol
And he could have been wrong, it could be a towed 88 in ambush. I don't doubt a experienced tank commander could tell the difference between an 88 firing and let's say a 75 firing, but I doubt he would tell the difference between a towed 88 and a Tiger firing from that distance without seeing more of the gun.
tiger *Takes Shot at Sherman’s side*
Wood *Deflects shot*
War thunder “WRITE THAT DOWN!!”
To be fair though an M4A3E8 (the one War Daddy is commanding) should've penetrated the Tiger's front armor at the beginning of the scene
Gaijin: wood, RHA 100mm
@@bryanperalta740 To be fair. It is absolutely unfinkable to any tanker anywhere in the world to shoot the tank at the end first. Fury tank should have been destroyed first and movie ended roght here. End of story, absolutely no discusion about that. Scenarists fucked up big way.
My fathers sherman was taken out by an 88. The shot went through the side armour THEN through the engine THEN through the armour on the other side so how the hell does a bit of wood deflect it ????? Totally dumb movie.
@@stevea2685 best guess, plz don't hate me, is the angle. If FURY was completely broadside then wood wouldn't be alive, plus said wood. Plz don't quote me but it might be the case.
There was a case of a Sherman avoiding a shell killing it outright because of a telephone poll that took the hit and deflected it saving the crew. It was an part of an episode of Greatest Tank Battles.
Fun fact: There was only about 1400 Tiger Tanks ever produced, so seeing one was a rare sight.
Edit: Y’all are wild, I’ve been reading the replies and maaannnn it’s juicy
How is this supposed to be fun? I didn't get the joke.
@@billbaba6994 Fun and funny can be meant differently. I have fun playing video games...that doesn't mean I find playing video games funny.
Lucky them
@@billbaba6994 it’s an interesting fact because if you compare the number of tanks the US and Soviet built, both countries built almost 50 times the amount of tanks than the Germans.
With that fact, if you pitted all the tiger tanks against either the Sherman or T34. The Germans would run out of ammo long before the allies ran out of tanks.
@@Luis-be9mi The Tiger wasn't meant to be the contemporary of the T-34 or the Sherman though, that would be the Panzer 4, which had ~8,553 units produced.
Which, to be fair is to be expected. The USSR and the USA's production was insane.
Say what you will about this movie.
The image of the Tiger slowly driving out of the smoke like a monster revealing itself in the mist still feels badass to me.
Yeah the movie was great pretty spectacular not entirely historical accurate but it’s really good in the photography and direction side.
That and the epic neck-and-neck shots at 3:44. I don't care if it's inaccurate, that little chase-around looks awesome.
it was a poor decision from the commander since they didn't spotted the tiger then, the only thing that they did was putting a smoke in the direction where the shot came from
Yet so stupid.... the Tiger could just let them come and take em all out one by one.
@@thomas8190 "I see it, it's a goddamn Tiger" they saw it
Can’t imagine almost dying and laughing….seeing friends die…and you made it out alive…the men these actors represent were truly the best generation
“Ay. Can you check if that sniper is still there?”
Your teammate right after: 2:32
Sooo damn true
then he replies in chat: Yep still there
@@gunmasterx1164 just goes: Sniper? SHIT DONT PEE-
That's why I always have someone else peek a corner for me lol
Not Joe Rogan got vaporized
2:02 the flash and the sound of that shell skimming past them is incredible
Agreed.
It’s almost like you can feel the power behind it. We need more movies like this
Unless you had the eyes of an eagle, you'd never know a Tiger was there. One hell of a terrifieing experience this would have been
@@eldreadnaught7412 those 88s penetrate all the time then,fury survived a side shot was most luckiest scene here
@shehab976 *most un-realistic you mean lol. No way that tank would have survived, a destroyed transmission and engine AT THE LEAST. But Fury would have been toast
The Tiger Tank gives me chills down my spine, that sound of the engine.
🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
@@zanebro ikr what a funny joke
Maybach V12 🙃
Hear hear!
Very intimidating and ahead of it's time just imagine being told one is around or in front of you making your little Tank feel like a toy compared to it but sadly if only it wasn't such a pain to maintain not the good time for it to be ahead.
The really impressive part is that the production crew was able to get a real M4A2E8! The Tigers they sourced are almost equally as rare. Getting them both on a field together will probably never happen again without CGI.
almost equally rare? There's only 1 in the world
@@jeffwattersdiesel1 in the world which is in working order
However, some of the "mistakes" in this tank fight can be explained by the reality on the film set. Normally, a real Tiger would have turned on the spot in the fight against several Shermans to get a better firing position or to increase the effectiveness of the armor.
However, this Tiger was not a CGI-Tiger, this is the only Tiger still in running condition worldwide, from the Bovington tank museum, the Bovington museum management gave the film crew precise instructions about what they could and could not do or do with this tank.
For example, the tank was allowed to move forward and backward, but cornering, as well as turning directly on the tracks, was forbidden.
I have once read that the tank mechanics in Bovington are worried when this Tiger is moved for demonstrations. Because if there is something seriously broken, the gearbox, for example, then you can hardly go to the next tank store and order a new one there, which must be made by hand, and that takes a long time and is damn expensive.
So it happened that the film crew was highly limited in the use of this one Tiger :)
Given the soft ground and the fact the _Tiger_ had been idling for a while neutral turning might not have been possible.
I in Sherman keep popping smoke until behind flaking real world who knows
Granted, the chances of a Tiger I being well-maintained and working reliably in 1945 weren't high to begin with. In addition, the Tiger featured in this clip is the early-model Tiger Ausführung H, meaning its transmission would be that much older and battle-worn in addition to the teething problems the early models experienced. It's arguable that not turning on the spot isn't just because of the realities of filming a museum piece, but is actually accurate to how a Tiger with a worn-out gearbox, suspension, and/or treads might be driven.
@@Sc0urgeAce this tiger had a later model engine in it. There is a doc on youtube about this particuler tank
They could have used some "movie magic" to pan around the tank with the camera towards the sky to give the illusion of the tank turning, then just move the tank to the correct direction when you cut back. But that would take work and brain power. That's something you don't usually see in Hollywood.
While the tactics are off here, I still can't help but love the way the Tiger strolls forward from the smoke like a menacing killing machine. Imagine the fear of seeing one of these on the battlefield - or even just being an infantryman and seeing a hulking steel beast rumbling towards you.
The spectacle is where this scene succeeds and that is an important part of a ww2 movie, it's not about showing it exactly how it would have gone. It's about showing it in a cool way whilst still respecting the real events and making sense. Just my opinion.
Yeah, I've been in front and ON that Tiger 131 in Bovington.
Surely it is impressive, it is a monster compared to the other tanks.
Tiger is a heavy tank means i can't turn on time and that was the soviets knock some tiger but german use the effective range of the 88mm gun
Run sideways lmao
In reality the Shermans here were all capable of penetrating the front armor of the Tiger, especially Fury with it's 76mm cannon.
Its crazy to think that dramatic battles like this were a daily reality for so many tank crews at some point
I remember there was a saying: If the Tiger noticed your Sherman and fired first, you are dead. If your Sherman noticed the Tiger and shot the first, you're dead.
Also heard this one from the German side: A Tiger could take on 4 Shermans at once, but there was always a 5th.
I remember never hearing of this besides seeing it said by world of tank players that roleplay as anime girls or WW2 German soldiers
I remember hearing Americans say. "Forget the tanks just send in a P-47 to destroy the whole convoy".
Yeah nah, sounds like bullshit. The 76 mm M1A2 gun on M4A3E8 Shermans (like the one Brad is commanding) had no trouble penetrating the Tiger's front armor at several hundred meters.
@@dan8250 But there weren't very many with that setup in the beginning of the campaign, only towards the end did that kind of armament become more commonplace.
Shia's acting throughout this whole movie was amazing. truly an underated actor
@@thetallrafay Yeah, Brad pit is so underrated, Totally is gonna be a rich and famous actor
Peanut Butter Falcon was another great performance.
He is a good actor, but it’s said that he’s mean behind the scenes during movie filming that’s why directors don’t want him. He is good at acting though
ON THE WAY
Not underrated... just dared to speak out against people who running the shit in there so... had to be punished?
As a tank commander I can confirm they should have paid the $0.99 for the DLC and ordered an airstrike of magic elves.
*drags in M1A2 Abrams because hacks*.
if germany will going to rebuild it's army like the nazis did before and a modern version of tiger tank it would be much terrifying
Thank you for your service brave soldier
@@MTC008 Yep 🤣🤣🤣.
@@guardianangel7589 That was an even better comment than the OP's! Lol!
The short 75mm canon on the Sherman's velocity on average was about 2000 fps. The German 88 would be screaming at 2,500 to over 3,000 fps. It sounded like literal death coming your way and thats what made it an all around effective antitank and antiair gun.
bruh tf you talking about the tiger's 88 was never used as anti air and would have sucked at it.
@justabarrelbomb4472 sorry I shouldn't been more specific. I just meant the German 88 in specific.
@@Justin-re5gb Oh you mean the flak 88? yeah, if that was what you were talking bout then yes, it was an incredibly versatile gun.
I think this scene pretty much accurately portrays why soldiers get PTSD
Also how bad Hollywood gets tank battles in movies.
What is the problem with the scene ?
@@uzairshogen9710 tiger woud not move and killed sharmens from distance
Are tanks really as resistant as portrayed in the film can an enemy shell really bounce off the surface ?
@@uzairshogen9710 ofcourse, exept sharmens, they had only 60mm armor, they where nicknamed lighters, when you hit them they burn
Imagine going through that horror in real life, my respect to all soldiers.
Many people go through many horrors in their lives. Apparently not many first worlders.
@@zephyrr108 ur name sure suits this comment
@@fye755 what he says is very true, first worlders generally know very little of horror or hardship
Yeah, any men would fear those horrors during WW2
Don’t have to imagine if you played Hell Let Loose
That dark choir vocalization at 1:28 was incredible, it really sold the dread of Allied tank crews would feel while staring a Tiger which was almost Satan for that era of tanks. Even when they won, it felt like they lost since it was a 1:3 exchange.
they came a another Satan called Mosquito
I might be misremembering but I think everyone agreed (Allies and Axis) that 1 Tiger was equal of 10 Shermans, so the United States made sure to bring 11 Shermans to every encounter hah. But It's also sort of a myth as well so it might be untrue as well but its interesting anyways.
@@Spec922Yeah, it’s mostly untrue due to how each side counted tank losses. If I remember correctly Lazerpig covers it real well.
@Fish transmission yes combat no
1:04*
1:49 that sound. The beast has entered the chat. Feuer Frei! Also the german word New Targer Fire. Such a cool language
*schnurr schnurr*
1:29 Fahrer fertig machen!
Panzergranate laden
1:52 neues ziel Panzer links! 10 uhr 700 meter
2:01 feuer frei
Scenes like these maybe stupid in the sense of tactics but damn, those sounds and that Tiger are so beautiful
Sadly it’s a plot thing to make things dramatic but regardless whoever were part of the sound engineering team did a fantastic job
I think I read that standard American doctrine in the event of encountering Tigers and/or German armor in general was to actually charge simply because there was almost always more American armor than German and they could overwhelm the German armor; the Germans only produced 1400 or so Tigers and only like 9000-10,000 Panzer IVs vs the 50,000 Shermans built.
Actual causalities for tank crews in knocked out Shermans were typically only one member of the crew near the site penetration; they were hardly the death traps some historians portray them to be.
@@ZaydinTTV yeah and the m4a3e8 (fury) could kill the tiger through its frontal armor at 700 yards with armor piercing
@@randomnessman3514 which makes me more mad cus the sherman jumbo should have lead the charge while the m4s giving fire from behind
One thing this movie got right is the fact you felt like you were in the battle. The actors did a great job showing fear, adrenaline, and every other emotion. The sounds of the rounds were crazy in the theater, sounded like you actually had a AP round flying passed your head.
except for Brad Pitt, when his head's not in a role you really feel it, he could have actually, literally phoned in all of those flat "Goddamnit" takes for ADR and I wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
@@Omnipotentmonkeyare you serious, brad pitt was good in this movie
They used the last working tiger tank in the world to film this scene
Last tiger 1, there is a working tiger 2 in France
I always wondered why they don't build a few more of older tanks and planes just for the fun of it can't think of a great reason why but it's still the same tank if you build it like they did back then
Press X for doubt
@@Menez47 No they actually did use it, look it up.
@@jakeshumway9487 I think it mostly has to do with the fact most of the parts used for army vehicles in ww2 are no longer made and discontinued, plus the cost effect to just make them would be alot more higher compared to the price in 1940
Those shells whistling by is absolute perfect sound design. I can't get enough of it!
I got probably the funniest ad placement watching this clip. At about the 5:40 mark immediately after the German tank commander got machine gunned and fell back into the turret of his tank, a short 5 second Coors ad came up showing a guy cracking open a cold beer smiling and relaxing on a hammock.
This scene may be wrong as Hell, but damn, I loved how realistic the acting was. War Machine's reaction after he saw the shells simply bouncing off the Tiger's thick frontal armor just made me realize how unfortunate you were if you met face to face with this metal beast.
There was a documentary about ww2 where they interviewed tank crews.. Everyone of them picked the tiger if they had to choose which tank they'd rather be in.. Me personally?.. Pershing..
Pershing? Good choice, I would either choose a Panther or a Churchill Mk7 crocodile
I would honestly go for the IS-2. Despite its drawbacks, it's an amazing tank.
Panzer Mark IV, particularly model f and up, those were good tanks, and actually useful for proper combined arms warfare. Tiger was too slow and used too much fuel.
@@jrus690 it was too complex to fix rapidly i think..
1:32 gives me the WT chills
It’s obvious the tactics here were BS, but it’s still a damn enjoyable scene.
Finally someone who is a history nerd and understands that it's all just a movie
Yes. The advancing tiger with greater range makes no sense whatsoever but I get the need for drama, I guess.
What choice do they have? The Shermans were designed to be lightweight and faster than German tanks, and the Tiger has them pinned by the woods so the only way the Sherman can beat it is by speeding around the behind where the armor is the weakest. Better take the chances with attacking than waiting and shit.
@@LuuLancelot the long 76mm gun of the FURY could punch though the front armor of the tiger. the panther would have been more scary
This whole movie is bs, but it is enjoyable movie.
2:16 Great acting from Logan Lerman. Loved Norman's shocked reaction when he sees the massive, seemingly impenetrable Tiger taking no damage from shots fired at it.
Very convenient that Fury, the one tank that could penetrate the Tiger's front from that range, kept missing until they got behind it.
@@artificialintelligence8328 the back was the weakness that’s why they went for the back didn’t you see the other shots bounce of the front
@@kiddReyesthat’s because the other tanks had 75mm cannons, the 76 Sherman which is the one Fury is can penetrate the Tiger through its front plate
I read "Logan sherman" 😅
@@kiddReyes also any sherman variant had the capacity of penetrating the side of a tiger, hell that was were the ammo was
That tiger loads longer than my mom talking to her friends
Your mother and I weren't "talking"...
@@Jack-uy7ie ... But fucking and docking.
Tbf those 88mm rounds would of been a bit heavier to load than the shermans 76mm round. But I know what your saying. A competent crew should still of been able to fire roughly 8 to 10 rounds a minute if they were on top form.
@@jonparton5082 Don't forget that TIger's turret was super slow and hard to aim from at moving targets. Not to mention that in real life TIger crews would rather retreat and gain distance than try to shoot anything maneuverable at close range.
And the commander and driver were too noobs, did not lean 30 deg to deflect AP, did not cover the underparts to prevent fire and even not use camp to hide the tank
I love how they showed the horror on the driver's face when shots eventually did start hitting the tiger, only for it to riochet off the front, which was *not angled to make it easier for that to happen*
Nah it was angled not to the lead crew as much but those at his end that were hitting couldn’t get a good angle they should’ve shot tracks and stopped it but that’s not as good movie scene
I still remember when I saw this in the cinema. The Tiger's boss music gave me some major chills. Great cinematography & great acting.
The only tank to ever have its own boss battle music lol
I literally said to my boy when we saw this in theaters when it came out “Why does the Tiger have its own boss music?” And I’m glad I’m not the only one who realizes it 😂 he swore I was just being stupid
2:28 I can't even imagine being the rest of the crew in the tank of the guy who's whole upper body just disappeared. Just seeing a bloody stump of a body slump down into the turret and knowing the next shell is coming to take you out. That would be a terrible final few moments
There is a book called "Spearhead" that is about a Sherman tank gunner's experience in WW2 (highly recommended book). Something similar to what you described actually happened (that I won't spoil). It was very shocking to read about.
Imagine what it was like to clean out the tanks
@@TheZod00 I’m gonna get dat book
Play Foxhole you will experience kinda similar
See the first season of The Expanse, the Donnager battle.
I remember watching this scene for the first time. seeing someone's upper half get deleted by a tank round really made my stomach sink
Not the worst way to go. Rest assured, the dead soldier felt nothing. Burning alive inside would have been FAR worse for example.
@@randydicotti3975 they would ot have had time to burn.. a direct hit from the 88 gun would have turned them into liquid instantly
First time I saw this made me laugh actually
@@abandonedaccount123 no not half, about .5 crew died for every destroyed Sherman
Sabot Shell damage
5:23 Tank Destroyed. You can see his level of relief
Imagine sitting in a Sherman and you just cant penetrate the Tiger. What kind of fear must that be?!
A fear every Sherman gunner ever had?
Think they called it tiger fever..
@@jesslee6145 or Tigerofobia
I think the Sherman's cannon could actually damage the armor even from the front unlike this movie. The Panther is a bit scarier in that respect I guess.
@@sarika3689 the 76's could and the stock 75' couldnt at all
I read online, so it's true, a quote from a German tank commander, "our tanks are worth 4 of theirs, but they always had five." Even if no one said that it's pretty historically accurate. The tiger was a solo beast of deviating power but confined to a wheelchair. The Sherman packed a lighter punch but was lighter, faster and hunted in packs.
A spider can kill and eat several ants at once, but if there are enough ants, the ants will eat the spider. Yeah the tigers absolutely crushed the allied tanks in any direct combat, but the allies had an endless supply of cheap mass produced crap tanks to swarm the Germans with.
This scene is wrong on many many many levels, and the tiger should have easily killed all 4 shermans. The germans would never have advanced like they did, as the tiger's main advantage was range and armor. At distance there was absolutely nothing a sherman could do to even dent a tiger, while a tiger could easily kill them at leisure. (I recall a story of a german tiger being hit literally hundreds of times, and while no longer being mobile, was still able to keep firing.
Well not to the extent you’d think, the fury’s 76mm could and would effectively penetrate the front of a tiger (search up Sherman easy-8) to an extent where German tank commanders would prioritize downing the 76mm tanks as the other 75mm Shermans needed to get far closer. But there’d have not been any drama if this battle was realistic, as that tiger wouldn’t have moved from it’s initial position at all. That quote however, became less and less of a reality as the war progressed is the point I’m making, is2s and Sherman fireflies gave tigers a run for their money.
@@johnmclain250 True..
@@thetommyhawk8244 The easy8 was a late war version of the sherman with a vastly better upgraded gun, and had significantly better armor. They are in early war shermans in this movie, but you would be correct had they been in the upgraded Sherman E8A1s.
@@johnmclain250 Fury is an Easy 8.
The shock, awe and fear of the crews when they realize it’s a tiger says it all. Even such experienced tanker crews feared facing a tiger tank and rightfully so
Actually, Tigers didn't have any effect on the war other than morale boosting and wasting German resources. It's transmission would inevitably break after a couple hundred kilometers or so I think, which is was below the average tank of the time. Besides the poor transmission, they were produced in such small numbers that even if they were great tanks, the Germans would still have lost
@@tristandaries1129 It was a vehicle wich is very likely to break down etc. But still Tiger 1/2 managed to get a Kill Ratio of 1:10. 10 Enemy Tanks for every Tiger destroyed by Enemy fire. If you also consider losses due lack of fuel and mechanical breakdown the ratio was 1:5 . 20.000 Enemy Tanks knocked out didn't had an effect because the allied had combined 150000 of them.
@@marcusstrobl8316actually the allies counted downed a downed tank as one that was momentarily taken out of service while Germans only counted it when the tank was permanently taken out of service
@@tristandaries1129 No they did have an impact, both Tiger 1 and 2 are credited with destroying (at least) 10,300 enemy tanks, and 11,380 AT guns and artillery pieces in WW2. The Allies took the Tiger very seriously, devoting considerable time to tracking their movements.
if a tiger had a 88mm gun. Believe me everybody took it seriously
People down in the comments arguing about the realism and here I am just enjoying the scene.
I once heard an interview from the director, he said yes he knows that the Tiger would have destroyed Fury first in this column but then the movie would be over.
They’re just nerds
Armchair critics.
"This video is sponsored by World of Tanks."
I mean, even World of Tanks is more realistic then that. Still an epic scene
Idiota
Imagine have a game with health bars.
Made by war thunder gang
@@Saikyouuu imagine tank game without nerds suicide revenge bombing and half of the team logging out mid game.
Both games are meh, war thunder has horrible grind though.
@@Saikyouuu Imagine having a pay to grind system, horrible maps awful community that just logs off in the game and crazy prices for most premium vehicles. Both games have enough Problems that they should focus on them instead of which game is better.
The energy of this scene is absolutely breaking. The crew finally won the fight, but feelings related with loosing their brothers in arms in such crushing circumstances, seeing that one man can treat another one with such hate and soulless made it feel like total loss. Eternal respect for people fighting for their loved ones, humanity and moral rules.
If %100 of the german troops,fighting on the eastern front, had been on the western front,the glorious german army would have scattered the us troops to million pieces
Can you call three of ours dead to one of theirs a win?
_"Wait until you see it" "See what?" "What a man can do to another man"_
Best part of the movie , it breaks from the typical depiction of ww2 combat being heroic (until the end scene) and shows the brutal, grinding nature that the combat was.
@@michaelram3411 short answer: No they'd not be able to, it'd almost be impossible for Germany to defend itself against a country which is more than 25x larger
I like how every time the Tiger Tank is in the camera's view it's facing a completely different direction.
2:32 just use a med kit and he‘ll be fine
Apply pressure on wound!
@@fatechfatech8247 casually applies bandage to head stump
Loader bought the farm!
That wasn't the loader
School nurses using ice pack
My unpopular theory as to why the Tiger crew made maneuvers so improbable they wouldn't happen with any other crew: They had all somehow gotten into Herman Goering's Morphine stash and were all jacked up on it.
That would be the only way as to how it would make sense to me.
Tiger tanks were mechanically unreliable and maintenance intensive. USA used medium tanks largely because of the logistical issue of moving them halfway around the world.
@@oldhag2881 thanks for the fun fact, but how does that apply to what I was mentioning? That's like saying "That driver destroyed his sports car when he drove into a stop sign while drunk." and you saying "A truck would be much more sturdy and practical vehicle than a sports car."
Coke and meth, old statchzy
Since this scene takes place at the END of the war, the german tank was probably crewed by a bunch of half-trained teenagers by this point. In my own head, that is how I justify this tiger crew's relatively poor performance.
@@russellkane232 Lot more realistic approach, but I still favor mine because it's that ridiculous.
With all if the inaccuracies in this scene, it still shows very well how absolutely horrifying it was to have to battle a tiger in a Sherman. You can scoff at the issues with realism all day long but it leaves the same result anyway. It shows why you don't ever want to find yourself in that situation and makes you glad you never will. Hats off to this film and I gotta give it to Ayer for using tiger 131 for this scene which is the only time a real tiger tank was used in film
In reality I would guess the Tiger would have loosely followed the fleeing Shermans or kept its distance if they advanced toward it, either way allowing for a safe distance to be oblivious to return fire while still being able to destroy the Shermans. That thought of not really seeing the enemy but knowing it has your number somewhere off the in the distance is horrifying. It would cause a sane man to flee the large target and start digging holes in the forest to start a new life.
@@Magneticitist At the range this fight occurred all of the tanks including the Tiger were glass cannons. Even the 75mm guns on the standard M4 Sherman's in this formation could penetrate the frontal armor of the Tiger. Most certainly Fury with the 76mm main gun.
In the engagement IN REAL LIFE that killed German Tank Ace Michael Wittman. 3 Shermans ( a formation just like this one which included one firefly and two base M4 Shermans) defeated 3 Tigers at close range (but still further range than this scene) without suffering a single loss.
The most unrealistic thing about this scene is how daunting they make the Tiger. At this range, the tiger has lost all of its advantages and the Sherman being quicker and more maneuverable was actually the superior tank. Where the Tiger was a BEAST was at the extent of it's effective range. Where it could accurately and effectively engage targets, but any return fire would be ineffective. In the scenario here in Fury, it's armor was irrelevant. It was too close.
I think pitts tank was a Jumbo Sherman, No?
An Easy Eight
Bro even a 75 Sherman found why's to counter the tiger like firing smoke shells at it forcing the tiger crew to abounded there tank
''A litteral 8,8cm shell non-penning a some pieces of wood''
Gajin: WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN!
5:43 this moment really emphasizes the feeling of war, we killed our enemy but we also lost our friends and allies in the battle. The way brad Pitt's character looks around and realizes that nobody "wins" or survives on the battlefield they just have to keep fighting to the death each and every day until told otherwise by their superiors.
It just emphasized how bad writing or actors can be . Sure duck back into the cramped tank to get your captured German stg44 with limited chances of resupplying ammunition for,when you have a perfectly good browning belt belt aimed directly at the targets you’re going to be shooting at.
3:12 that "fire!" shook my soul, and it got worse when the shell didn't pen
1:27 when the friggin BOSS MUSIC kicks in!
@Samuel Gilbert yup even the roaring engine is like is ready to come out.
That scared me😲
Sans time
Hello its me tiger am ok after movie.
still having problems because of this.
@@TigerWithAnChristmasHat1224 ohhh I am glad you are ok,you are the last one alive from your species
The thing that gives me chills in this scene is how they portrayed the whistling of the APCBC rounds coming from the tiger
We didn't even scratch them!
That one didn't go through!
We didn't penetrate their armor!
It bounced off!
That one ricocheted!
Ricochet.
We've just dinged them.
Truly a man of culture.
What do you mean about that?
@@BeyondBeauty-p9e it's just world of tanks things
@@chris2ndaccount69 world of tanks?, I'm sure there is a dark secret behind those words
Ha! Der ging voll durch ihre panzerung!
An SS Tiger Tank wipes out the entire platoon except Fury, who was able to successfully destroy the Tiger by taking hits on its plot armour
quite literally took a shot to the side, but plot armor saved it
@Giovanni Martinezif the tiger hit the lead tank you wouldn't be typing this right now..
@@thegermanfool8953 they think numbers matter the most while not caring about the physics of this stuff. The weather, speed, curve... Hell, even the material of the impact zone dictates the damage that will be done.
But yeah, the Tiger would've blown the shit out of FURY if this wasn't a movie
@@linkcorriere846 yep
@Giovanni Martinez If that would have been real the leading Sherman would have been the first target then the last one creating a sort of barricade the tanks in the middle can't overcome. This was a common German ambush tactic since they simply didn't have the numbers to fight against the sheer mass of the Allied forces. Then again the Us don't have Air power in the movie so an advantage for the Germans maybe?
2:03 - epic sound
I actually ducked in the theaters sfx squad held it down
not epic when It's coming at u tho
The screech afterwards or the whizzing of the tank shell.
Sound of death :))
@@pipipiduy yeah, kinda scary from perspective of tank crew.
2:32 just pop the Med kit he’ll be fine.
LMFAO
ICE
Always wear your helmet kids
XD
@@thegermanfool8953 School Nurses: Just put some ice on it and it'll be fine
I like the german commanders voice!
That makes the tank even more terrifying
Same!
The tigers turret was driven by a hydraulic motor that was connected to the engine by a drive shaft
The speed of the turret was dependent on the engine RPM
So when fury closed and got closer it caused the tiger turret to slow down giving them the advantage
Except that both the Tiger and Fury could and would have killed each other long before they got anywhere near that close…
@@bkjeong4302 thank you. Exactly. Fury had a 76mm gun more than capable of penetrating the Tiger without getting behind it.
@@Creditwashere negative. The 76mm gun was more than capable of penetrating a Tiger's armor at that range. The other 75mm guns needed that flank.
Just another reason why that Tiger would have targeted Fury immediately. An experienced TC (which he obviously was having an Early Tiger 134 alive so late in the war and being a Tiger Ace) would have identified this before the first shot was even fired.
@@Creditwashere no, fury's long 76 can basically slice through anywhere on the front of the tiger.
@@cosmicviking6829 fury was a m4a1 Sherman or m4 sherman
“You gotta hit it in the ass and you gotta hit it point blank” - Oddball
"There you go again with those negative waves baby!" 🤣
THat's right. I learned from Kelly's Heroes that that's how you stop a Tiger.
"Oddball, this is your hour of glory, and you're chickening out."
"Kelly's Heroes." One of the best war movies of the early 70's. Funny as hell and with an all-star cast.
To a New Yorker like you a hero is some kind of a weird sandwich.
0:22 you can faintly hear somone yell " *yeet* "
Yet another underrated comment. 😆
LMFAO...."ahhhyeeeTT!!!
i’m the 69th like.. nice
Hahahaha
And the Sherman be like: HULL BREAK
0:58 the way he licks his teeth out of fear and excitement. That's some good acting right there.
Idk why but at 2:37 just the way he shouts “clear” always gives me chills
This whole scene though. You could feel their adrenaline dump and finally accepting norm at the end. Brothers till the end...
And not the fact he looks like my grandpa when he says clear💀💀
I don't care its not 100% accurate I love this scene
It's not even 40% accurate may as well be a fucking fantasy film
@@harrystoneman8316 Another ww2 historian in the youtube comment section everyone!
@@harrystoneman8316 gonna cry? piss your pants
They had several men who served in tank. Regimen who told there stories for the first time since the war it was said they all cried when it was over
@@dennybarlau8065 Well, we just saw a Tiger move out of perfectly good cover, and charge alone, against a tank platoon that had very little chance of ever penetrating his frontal armor, which conveniently led to a Sherman having a chance to hit his side and rear.
If this was anywhere near close to realistic, the Tiger would be reversing instead to keep distance.
And when they got in that close, the Tiger would have traversed around his hull to turn its turret quicker and keep his frontal armor at the Sherman instead of continuing to reverse/advance..
And to be fair, at that close distance of less than a hundred meters the Sherman should have been more than able to penetrate the flat frontal armor of the Tiger, instead of keeping on trying to get behind it...
Shia’s acting was incredible In this movie best I’ve ever seen from him personally
Ps: Did anyone catch the name ;)
He apparently got so into character that he claimed he was having nightmares and claimed to be a veteran when pulled over by a cop for erratic driving. Shia is more than a bit crazy.
"JUST DO IT" DO IT "JUST DO IT"
Shias an incredibly underrated actor as someone else said he was incredible in peanut butter Falcon but this for me too is his best role
@@dominicdecoco7950 true that
I agree, he was ultra believable in this role.
The sheer amount of relief on their faces when they called out “tank destroyed” was really spine chilling
*At the start*
German officer: fire
German tank crewman: yes sir
*At the end*
German officer: fire
German crewman: huh? What do fire mean?
Lol
It was because he didn't have the shot but still hilarious comment 😂
Maybe they ran out of ammo, German tiger tanks were known to run out of ammo quick
@@charles5895 You dont attack 4 tanks when you are on low ammo. So, no. The reason for not shooting isnt about ammo.
I think the gun jammed, its what really happened to most real Tiger tanks.
@@saplkereviz6824 or the movie was written by Americans. That’s my take
3:47 the reloader guy in the tiger was like: *reloader has left the server*
I'm sure he was nocked out if u look closer the turret didn't moved too
@@jhoansv the loader doesn’t move the turret, the gunner does
@@potatojuice5124 Bruh u didn't understood me I meant that the crew was knocked out because of the impact u know?
@@jhoansv makes sense, but it starts moving again like 20 sec later
@@potatojuice5124 Lemme give u an example, have u ever been in a high adrenaline situation? If u haven't been in one yet u basically do anything even if it doesn't make sense, sure the driver was so scared that he just goed backwards
''We got incoming!''
''German Tiger panzer?''
''No, it's worse Sir.''
''Worse than a Tiger?!''
''Yes Sir, youtube armchair historians, Sir.''
''Mother of God!''
Lmao
THANK you.
That's right. Facts snd historical accuracy mean squat to you soy milk millenials. How you "FEEL" is all that matters. Go have a good blub in your cry closet.
@@PanzermansBunker O.K. BOOMER!!!!
@@doublep1980 Yeah but historical accuracy is important. Like for instance in real life the Tiger would've hit Fury (which was at the front) to stop the convoy, then shoot the rear tank next and finally pick off the middle tanks. Or the fact that the Tiger commander would've never moved from his position in real life because why would he? He had a perfect ambush position where the Shermans couldn't see the Tiger. Or that the Fury tanks real life counterpart was a M4 Sherman Firefly VC, which was outfitted with a 76.2mm British heavy pounder and used APCBC (Armour Piercing, Capped, Balistic Capped) and APDS (Armour Piercing, Discarding Sabot) shells. It was also the only British tank that could reliably penetrate Panther and Tiger tanks in their frontal armour from a distance of 550 meters. By the way, I'm only using facts stated by historians and a tank veteran themselves, not making all of this up. Even the director of the film stated quote "In WW2, this battle would've ended with the Tiger killing the shermans". If you are into tanks and history then that kinda ruins the immersion in this film. But hey, It's hollywood so atleast the director made a decent and entertaining film. Keep enjoying it and have a nice day.
I dont care how unrealistic any of it may be, i will always love a good intense action scene
The accuracy of this scene doesn’t matter, it is insanely intense how both are jockeying for position.
I think it was pretty accurate overall. When two tank units met, there are three outcomes:
a) It is a seal clubbing for your side. While preventing the enemy from making it to c.
b) You can drag the enemy into allied AT guns or Rockets
c) You somehow have to hit their weak armor - no mater the losses - to not have your unit totally wiped out.
A Sherman group fighting a Tiger frontally? It is a seal clubbing for the Tiger
A Sherman group charging forward, flanking so at least one can hit the side or aft armor? That is the only chance the sherman has to survive. They were supported by the rather low range here. A Tiger had a effective gunrange of up to 2km. 500-700 meters is a dagerously short distance for any lone tank
@@christopherg2347 this knowledge has actually changed my playstyle in games like Warthunder and world of tanks where, while not entirely accurate, the Tigers do a lot better at range than up close.
@@inquisitorbacon8170 that comes... do you know what kind of gun they put on the tiger😜
@@Kelvinpierre99 lol a nice BFG
@@christopherg2347the front tank, also known as Fury, had the 76mm, and all the others had 75, Fury was also at the front of the convoy so it would probably be the first target, also, the Tiger had good cover and position, so there wasn’t really reason to move, and finally, most tank commanders would have an easier and more accurate shot if they were to stop before firing
A really great addition to this scene was the chatter of the German crew in the Tiger. It gives the impression that they are just a tank crew, in a hellish situation, just like the crew of the Fury. They want to live just as bad.
Despite how unrealistic it is, this scene is a masterpiece.
ne başyapıtı arkadaşım. Tiger ın içinde olsan seni 600mtden vuramayacak bir tankın üzerine mi gidersin yoksa bulunduğun konumdan vurur musun? film baştan aşağı saçmalıklarla dolu. heleki son sahnesi... berbat ötesi bir film...
@@tutupa2212 i can't see anyone do a better movie
@@malachiomeletoe4320 we all love the drama and theatrics and it's a quality movie but obviously not realistic
The reason it is one of my favorite films is the character interactions. Those feelings, conversations, and reactions are insanely accurate. I've literally had those conversations with my truck commanders and squad leaders. It's based on a collection of stories from different units. Just like video games magically have you participate in every famous battle in WWII, this puts Fury into all the legends of the Western Front. I'd say it is really inaccurate, but not unrealistic
Tiger great tank
the fear that The Tigre strikes into these men is sensational, great acting
Even if you don't like the action you can't deny this is a great looking movie. The white smoke crawling out of the shell holes in the tiger's engine bay after the fight is done is such a beautiful contrast to the breakneck action of the scene before it.
Fun fact: tiger commanders would never drive out in open and drive head on like that
The sherman used smoke to cover their ass...
If tiger not move forward and killed them one by one they will be dead when 3 sherman shoot their ass in close range...
@@franssinurat9696 Tiger also couldve droven Backwards going away from the smoke or atleast Go out in the Open a little Bit enough to see the shermans
@@franssinurat9696 they would have stopped out of the smoke
@@franssinurat9696 they had a good position. Moving foward puts them at more risk then the shermans
It's all for extra movie drama. The tiger had a massive advantage where it was, and moving forward would be pointless. That being said, the Sherman firefly also had a gun that could kill the tiger at range, so it having to get closer was also just for the sake of drama. Not to mention that the tiger commander would have likely spotted that longer barrel and shot the firefly first.
5:41 when your teacher says "explain your answer"
I read this....then clicked it 🤣🤣🤣
As a high school teacher, I find this comment deeply amusing. 😂
LMAO
😂😂
😂😂
Nobody ever talks about how great the acting is in this movie, it’s obviously not historically accurate but the acting is peak.
5:58 The curse of victory. A rare unimaginable emotional pain felt for his fellow man; regardless the enemy.
BkP 😌
You sure the best friend forever and always love 😀😀😀
2:04 That fear in Normans Eyes.
I’d shit my pants too after seeing and hearing that
The reason why is because hes never seen a or ever believed a single tank could destroy 3 that’s why in the next scene he says “what the fuck” under his breath because he sees how many rounds bounce off of it
Kdkdl
I would be scared too , mf had ap shells bouncing off it
Me when finally kill my enemy whos been killing me 17 times : 5:41
It’s true
Damn right
*Me while teabagging* "And I'll kill you a second time bitch, this is the tide turning!!! I'm the king here"
@@vim2286 gets head shot by a sniper
That’s how it feels playing against German tanks in War Thunder. Just play as the Jumbo and sit in front of them while they fail to pen your armor
I gotta say, that tank commander getting his head just absolutely deleted has got to be one of the most brutal deaths in any war movie ever made.
It happened way more often than you think
It was a quick death pretty sure he didn't see it coming.
And the least painful.
Im pretty sure he wouldnt feel any pain, tho its gruesome
@@salamander337 I’d say for life half a second he just felt an 88mm AP shell go straight through his neck so
Grady at the end saying “Jesus Christ” is so real. Watched this last night I was bugging at this scene
While I’ve learned the strategy of this battle may not be the best the scene is still a beauty when it comes to showing emotion, the desperation shows so clearly as the tanks gets killed and the relief after the tank gets destroyed is fantastic
The tactics are bad but that’s understandable since we need a movie however fury has a 76mm gun it could’ve penetrated the tigers armor from the front
@@SirEggo2412 Fury would have been taken out first, since they were trained to target the 76 Shermans first. The rest would have been quickly dispatched with no hope of fighting back. The whole thing would have been over within 5 mins.
@@CptAngelKGaming yes I know
@@CptAngelKGaming the others would've popped smoke and a p-47d would've strafed the tiger
"GAH! GET THE F-"
*static*
We just lost a medium tank!
Coh2 fellow I see
"I can't believe it! They destroyed my beautiful Tig-"
*A heavy panzer has been lost.*
Gold!
"AMMO HOLD ON FI-"
CoH2 is a legendary game, been playing since I was only 15
Rest in peace fellow Tiger, you should have won if you engaged the enemy properly
You would have been able to help them if you weren't to heavy cross that bridge
@@dirtysniper3434 nah interfering in another tanks battle is not my thing, a 1v1 is a 1v1
@@dirtysniper3434 even if he did cross the bridge his transmission would've broke a minute later
@@putnamehere3803 well this is in germany who knows mabey he might make it since his final drive is 106km then again it would probably catch fire attempting to climb any hill
@@dirtysniper3434 The Final drive was the Panther.
The Tiger 2/King Tiger was just underpowered and overloaded. Which meant slow and fires.
People saying, Tiger this Tiger that, German this German that
There is reason modern tanks look and designed similar to a Panther and Tiger tank
Erm war thunder player here. Not a single Modern tank looks similar or even slightly similar to those two.
Modern tanks look more like the M24 Chaffee or the A34 Comet or the IS2.