It should also be mentioned Ozzy's father died in 1977 which may have played a part in the alcohol abuse, he sings about it (quiet well) in the 1978 album Never Say Die on the song Juniors Eyes...all the original member Sabbath albums were fantastic!! Edit: also, keep in mind it's been over 50 years since their first album and all 4 members are still alive and kicking!!
I don't know, even Tony and other Sabbath members admit that Never Say Die was a poor album, and Technical Ecstasy was only marginally better. Heaven & Hell and Mob Rules were much better albums.
@@HighlanderNorth1 I don't know either except there will never be another sound like BS from the 1970s period. I saw them in concert twice...once with Ozzy and again with RJD... I got no complaints.
@@_stardust62 I was a bit too young to have seen BS during the original Ozzy period. However, I did see them in late 1981 at the Spectrum in Philly for the Mob Rules tour, which was my first-ever music concert. It was about a month after I'd turned 14 years old. In order for me to have seen BS before Ozzy was fired, I'd have been 10 years old, but at that point I was into KISS, having recently gotten my 1st album of their's(Destroyer), and hadn't even heard Sabbath yet. Two years later i saw Ozzy for the Bark @ the Moon tour, with Motley Crue as the opening act(Shout @ the Devil tour). Then I saw Dio doing his Sacred Heart tour.
True story from my weed dealer- Dio and Ozzy had the same weed dealer in Burbank. Dio is there and about to leave when Ozzy shows up and the dealer says lets smoke the peace pipe of special reserve. So the 3 get to smoking. and a conversation ensues. Ozzy tells Dio that It was hard being fired but that after the personal bitterness faded he respected the decision and loved the Dio era albums. As Sabbath was always Iommis band. Ozzy also stated that The 1st time he heard Ronnie was in Elf opening for Deep Purple where Elf covered War pigs. Ronnie replied That he always loved original Sabbath and singing along to the tunes. he just hated singing them with Sabbath. Just then the weed dealer took too big of a hit and was coughing when Dio started singing sweet leaf and Ozzy joined in. The dealer then handed Ozzy a harmonica he had stashed in the coffe table. Ozzy played while Dio sang the wizard... after they all settled down jamming and high as hell. Dio tells Ozzy. I have now sang for every original Sabbath member making me the Ultimate Metal God ...and As Great as I am You cannot spell Idiot without Dio. Ozzy erupts in laughter and says I cant spell my name without looking at my knuckles. The 2 greats laugh it all out. and as they get up to go. they look at each other from their limos and Ozzy gives Dio the Devil horns.
@@CatDaddySteve I've seen them live 30 times including their first tour of the United States at the Carolina Jubilee in Chapel Hill North Carolina 1970. I was also at the heaven & hell concert September 26th 1980 at the Charlotte Coliseum. That was my first time seeing Ronnie James Dio fronting Black Sabbath and was totally Blown Away by his vocal performance. There were a lot of things said between Ozzy and Ronnie back then and written about in The Press. That's why enjoyed his story so much they both got along so well! Cheers
@@Jake-sc5hw and I would have to disagree with that, man iommi is literally my favorite guitarist, but I feel it's a disservice to the rest of the "BAND" to say it was just him that made them. They are all gods in my opinion.
"Never Say Die" had a couple decent tracks, but it was no "Paranoid". This period gave us the GREAT "Heaven and Hell" with DIO at his best. It all worked out in the end, and these guys are STILL producing great music...Note: I was 16 in '78 when I bought "Never say Die" and Rainbow's "Long Live Rock and Roll" at the same time. The good old days, for sure....
A matter of taste. Can't stand "Heaven and Hell" and prefer "Never Say Die" far above "Paranoid". The only problem with "Never Say Die" is the sound engineering was poor. Sabbath needed outside help to get a better recording of the material. I'm talking general mic technique, sound levels, mixing, etc.
@@manictree5436 I think "A Hard Road is a fkn jam I like playing the drums to it, Juniors Eyes and NSD are great too. H&H I like the whole record except "Lady Evil" I think the song stunk. Tony's work on Die Young is fantastic and Bill on "Lonely is the Word, a great blues/metal song I also love to play
@@m42037 Just imagine the "Never Say Die" album with far better production. Notice Sabbath had Martin Birch produce and engineer "Heaven and Hell". Too bad they didn't have someone like that on "Never Say Die" or "Technical Ecstasy".
If you're like me Clive, then you might just be shaking your head in bewilderment at a lot of the sheer nonsense written here by posters that were simply not there and all of whom are after the fact. I never ceases to amaze me just how little they understand about the original band and what a force to be reckoned with that it was.
@Backstage Pass Thank you for taking my head out of some heavy shit these days. I do think Dio saved them at that point and it maybe even saved Ozzy. Love Dio and Ozzy but Ozzy always been my favorite.
@@wesleywarsmith1113 Ian gillan actually was Black Sabbath's singer from 1980- 1983. Billy Milano is just the worst singer I could think of to be funny.
Indeed. Though there were other bands making heavy music, Sabbath were doing it earlier and heavier than anyone else. Not even Judas Priest went as heavy as Sabbath did in the 70s, though they did break new ground when it came to speed. Moreover, besides Iommi's riffwriting talent, simply using distortion as heavy as that was a groundbreaking thing in 1970. And like so many other groundbreaking things, Sabbath was often misunderstood and undervalued by its contemporaries.
I liked Sabbath when I got older, but in my early teens it was too melancholy and dark. But I loved Ozzy. Loved him. One of my all time favorite vocalists and rock performers even though I was at the concert where he sounded horrendous and the reason being he had a heart attack. And Ronnie James Dio songs like Man on the Silver Mountain are rock/metal classics as well. But Ozzy is a genius. His voice on Changes is so haunting it makes you feel like you just broke up with someone and had your heart ripped out every time you hear it. Ozzy is spiritual beyond most any performer. And what he and Randy Rhodes did.. incredible.
Good day, I was at the "Never Say Die" concert in Portland,Or, early '79. It was my 8th time seeing them Live 😃 and it was fantastic, as ALWAYS. And this new band, with an amazing guitarist, vocalist that could jump as if he had an invisible trampoline, and a bassist that could sing excellent backing/harmonizing. I hadn't really heard a lot of them at the time as they were new. Yep, Van Halen... Phenomenal show, WELL WORTH the $5.00, (for you young 'uns, most shows normally cost that much back then). Eddy was still turning his back to the audience during certain licks, so we guitarists couldn't steal them 😂. Man, the 70s and 80s were just kick ass times for live shows. 😃 😃 😃
@@Thomasmemoryscentral Good day, Yes, back when I was younger, people always said I looked like Ozzy. It may have been because I wear a huge cross and played in a Heavy Metal band. Now I'm just an old rocker, and at 62, still have a nice full head of hair, and have NEVER died it. Maybe cause I never sweat the small stuff 😃 Have a great day
@@barbarafogle3541 Good day, Absolutely. He was known for doing this in the clubs because, at the time, Eddy was doing amazing things with the guitar, that had never been done. He didn't want other guitarists stealing his Licks before they, Van Halen, were signed. This carried on through their first tour, perhaps out of habit. If you notice, it didn't take long for other guitarists to start using his technique after Van Halen's first album, thus, he wasn't being "Paranoid", 😂 pardon the pun 😂
me too. As album, I like Never say die over both Technical ecstasy and Sabotage. There are couple great song on these two also, but as whole, Never say Die is better album for me.
This is pretty great, hearing Iommi himself try to explain what happened. I heard BS as a 13 year old in '70. Bought the album quick as i could. Sorta gave up on new stuff after Vol IV though a friend bought everything. I bought SBS and Sabotage way later. Heaven And Hell another bought new by that guy. Staggering ! Mob Rules and Dehumanizer had some great tunes, too.
What is even more interesting though, is that no participant in the events can seem to get to the bottom of what really happened. There is no clear narrative. There is just ...i held his head under the mud until the bubbles stopped rising.
@Tim Morrison lron Maiden ain't good enough to polish Black Sabbath boots, & have been making the same album over & over for 40yrs, it's just that their brain dead fans haven't noticed.
@Tim Morrison there would be no maiden without Black Sabbath. Also keep in mind sabbath was formed in 68. Maiden didn’t form until 7 years later and their first singer and 2 albums sucked ostrich dick. Just my opinion
I always tend to think of that lineup as "Heaven & Hell", but not in any way that demerits or diminishes Dio. Just in terms of sheer sound, that lineup is my favorite.
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For me, personally, Sabbath was only Sabbath with the original lineup. I wasn't really a big Dio fan, but I was an Ozzy fan. Also, the first five Sabbath albums were definitely the best. Things started to go downhill after Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. Similarly, with Ozzy's solo albums, the first five or six albums were the best ones (and of course, nothing compares to the first two). I think there may be a hard limit on how many really good albums a single group can produce before they run out of steam. The Beatles are on the high end of the scale, but perhaps it is more of a timespan thing than a fixed number of albums or songs (the Beatles were only releasing albums for seven years).
So what do you think the band should have done just retire and be farmers I don't think that would be fair for Tony Terry and Bill Ozzy should have got treatment and got off the drugs which we know would have been possible for him I like Ozzy but I was glad to see him leave
I saw Black Sabbath only one time, the Technical Ecstasy tour. I distinctly remember two things about that concert...Ted Nugent opened up for them, he showed lots of energy, running around the stage and lots of screaming and yelling and making his Gibson Byrdland wail. Then Tony Iommi coming out and pretty much standing in one spot the whole show letting his fingers do the work, he was awesome. The other thing I remember was that Ozzy had a roadie off stage left working as his personal bartender. Ozzy was drunk and sloppy, which was a damn shame because the band was so tight.
I disagree that Ozzy's drug use was the same as the other three. On the Technical Ecstasy tour Ozzy disappeared several times, especially as the news of his father's illness reached them. Bill Ward filled the vocals a few times then Dave Walker was almost signed when Ozzy came back. There was also the infamous Alamo urination. Don't forget that they had recently found all their money had been mismanaged (to be polite). They probably saved Ozzy's life from slow poisoning. Remember these were not psychiatrists or saints, they were rockers handling the problem the best way they knew. Shock therapy, if you will. When Blizzard came out it was absolutely amazing. Shocking, even. Without Randy I doubt a comeback would have happened.
the Alamo incident was WELL after him leaving Sabbath.... & as far as his drug use in the band- compared to the others_ Ozzy went off the rails when high. He couldn't handle it and stay fuctional . That is why he was fired.
Ozzy had reached a point where very few would have bet on him. And after the firing I think his confidence was nearly shot. Not a big Sharon fan, but it must be admitted that she saw something in him -- a potential and attractive charisma hidden behind his depression and drugged-out withdrawal. In spite of his failings and weaknesses, she believed in him and had all the right connections. Then it all came together with Randy and the boys, like you said. I guess "shock therapy" sometimes works!
I agree as well. Ozzy was way more of loose cannon out of control with his addiction far worse than the other band members. And it really was lucky that he found Randy and was able to turn it around. I am still amazed because after reading Off the Rails by Rudy Sarzo Ozzy cancels like every other show on that tour. If Blizzard and Diary hadn't been such great albums out of the gate I think Ozzy would have probably drank himself to death if his solo band failed.
I did not mean to excuse Ozzy's misbehavior at all. But the facts must be considered. As a child his learning disability possibly dyslexia with a natural tendency to worry left him a nervous sort always trying to prove he wasn't just a "back Street kid". He loved the stage but felt so keyed up after he couldn't sleep. This is what is said about Keith Moon: a few drinks was what it took to get to bed. Then later a few bottles. Ozzy was a perfect candidate to become "Rat Salad" at the "Hand of Doom", a heroin needle. Also he and Tony did not exactly get along. There are indicators Tony was kind of a bully to Ozzy in high school. But they tried to keep it professional. Still it's not easy for a nervous worrywart like Ozzy to deal with especially when they found out their manager left them broke and the first six album's songs, cars, houses, everything were all licensed in his name, not the band members. Court battles are hard on the digestion and that good REM sleep. Then his dad got sick and died, one of very few people Ozzy could rely on. After his father's death the alcohol really caught up to him, plus eight records and eight tours in about as many years. He was burned out and grieving and on stage every night. I'm a bit surprised he didn't go postal or something. Say what you will about the VILE Digital Bitch but she did keep him alive. (And I was at Ozzfest 1993 in Cali where she put roadies and goons and that unmistakable hulking not-Jake E. Lee to disrupt the Iron Maiden show. They threw eggs at Nicko McBrain one of the nicest guys ever.)
@@rjonboy7608 Seriously? What a wokefest pantomime of cliche after cliche. Ozzy was from fkn Birmingham, ffs. He wasn't a choir boy and dressed by his mother as Lilywhite Lilith. Every band member was surrounded by drugs and drink, nearly ever band was screwed over by management somewhere down the line and many also had parents who died. That's life. Your take on Keith Moon is also very misleading as he swallowed everything, before or after a gig. What "to get to bed"? Are you serious? Lol. Yes, we all know Sharon had her methods, but Ritchie Blackmore and the roadies used to pelt Joe Lynn Turner with rotten fruit. It's an olde British custom call "avin' a larf", ya dig?
What's crazy is how well Ozzys firing turned out for all involved. We got a much better solo Ozzy with Randy Rhodes and a much better Sabbath with Ronnie James!!
Sabbath was not sabbath after ozzy left they basically turned into dio’s backup band. They didn’t really sound like sabbath they sounded like Dio. I don’t think either was better just different. Let’s be honest they best hits was in the ozzy era.
I saw that tour of 78 in Nashville..the riot gig. I was up front and when they announced that they were rescheduling Sabbath and no sooner had the guy said it the crowd erupted. Someone threw a Jack Daniels bottle thru Bill Ward's drumhead. Then they smashed Municipal Auditorium to pieces. Fights everywhere. This was on a Friday. They rescheduled for that Sunday afternoon. VH opened again..this time a shorter set. Sabbath comes up. Ozzy can't sing for shite. He is basically screeching. Iommi looks embarrassed. But Bill Ward still kicked ass. It's still in my top 5 gig list. For all the wrong reasons .
I saw Black Sabbath at Painters Mill, MD. The back up band was... Fleetwood Mac! Unfortunately the crowd got out of control and pushed a young woman through the glass door. Sabbath panicked and left after 45 minutes. I had front row seats in front of a speaker. They did the intro to "Iron Man" and almost blew out my ears.
I personally like the Dio era better. Earlier Sabbath just bored me. And I like Ozzy better outside of Sabbath. Weird maybe. But that’s just my preference.
I was in the 10th grade when I heard Sabbath had fired Ozzy and I said to myself that's the last we're ever going to hear of Sabbath or Ozzy. A few months later I heard the first Ozzy album and I was completely floored.
Ozzy and Ronnie are fantastic singers for sure ozzy because he sang on all of sabbaths most iconic albums and Ronnie for the fact he made three of the best sabbath albums heaven and hell, mob rules and dehuminizor not to mention he was a much much more technical vocalist.
Well not sure if black sabbath would've been good with ozzy still.. But ozzy solo gave us some of the best music ever. And than sabbath had dio and that was Great too. So not bad turnouts
Iommi and Butler must've just sat there and wondered "What did we do?" Ozzy came back with a vengeance and blew them away. Ozzy started selling platinum albums and selling out arenas while Sabbath was barely selling small theaters or clubs. Look at the #'s for albums sold in the U.S. Blizzard of Oz= 5,000,000 vs. Heaven And Hell=1,000,000. Diary Of A Madman=3,000,000 vs. Mob Rules=500,000. Speak Of The Devil=1,000,000 vs. Live Evil=Not even 250,000. Bark At The Moon=3,000,000 vs. Born Again= Again, Not even 250,000.
Love how you did the run down on album sales! I had forgotten about most of those albums! Only knew sabbath screwed up letting go of Ozzy! But thanks for the rundown!
Ozzy had shrewd and vicious management. Sabbath had a relic for management. Poor business decisions. The music was still great. Ozzy's music was shit by 1990.
It was weirdly refreshing to hear Tony speak well of Ronnie, not that he’s ever said ill of him. Especially when he talks about the way that Dio did things differently than Ozzy. After hearing many rumors, it’s good to hear something straight from the horse’s mouth.
Your thumbnail picture is the wrong way round.Tony is a left-handed guitar player so the neck should be pointing to the left in the photo. Please correct it.
A lot of lead vocalists end up going back but apart from some one off shows Ozzy hasn’t needed Sabbath. Sabbath were great for 10 years but never captured those glory years again.
Ozzy singng on the riff is just a sign of inexperience and not being able to hear an alternate melody but there are times that it works and these are the times that it did. It does get old after a while hearing the singer singing the same as the riff. Dio come in with a fresh change and changed the direction of Sabbath. Some think for the good some don't. I never was crazy about Ronny James but you can't dent his vocal ability. Ozzy on the other hand has that special charisma about him when he performs and that's why he has become as big as his is. It's going to be a very sad day for all of music when Ozzy crosses over. His catalog spans at least 50 years so radio stations will be playing his music for weeks.
Hate to say it ozzys the one that made out best thing that could have happened to him at that time,unfortunately drugs alcohol and egos ruined many a bands 😕 progress
I’m an Ozzy fan, I’m not interested in Black Sabbath without Ozzy. It was too different. A friend said it was too happy, I agreed. My favorite album is Speak Of The Devil, that’s the one with Brad Gillis on guitar. The old Sabbath stuff was so much better that way.
I have button with this image of Ozzy. I love Sabbath, and people ask me if that picture is of my girlfriend or wife. I say "yes",might as well be, more love is to be found in a Sabbath song than cheating sluts.
Biggest mistake Black Sabbath ever did, no matter what anyone says. They never really recovered while my brother Ozzy Osbourne went on and became one of the biggest successes in Rock history.
Sorry... Sabbath is with Ozzy, as AC/DC is with Bon Scott and Van Hallen is with David Lee Roth. There are more examples, but these ones are good for the case
'79 Never Say Die tour Oakland Coliseum Arena, VH blew them off the stage & then Sabbath w/Dio Day on the Green '80 Heaven & Hell tour, Ozzy & Randy Cow Palace 2 shows 81/82 New Years Evil, Sabbath with Dio 1982/83 Mob Rules tour Cow Palace.....etc! 🤘
Sabbbath firing Ozzy was the best thing to ever happen because it gave the world Randy Rhodes and Ozzy’s solo career was 10 times the career of Black Sabbath. I’m just sayn🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Tony was saying how ozzy would only sing where he was comfortable,,,, well that is why Black Sabbath got so famous! With Dio ,,, Sabbath was lacking big time!!! It wasn’t Ozzy holding back Black Sabbath,,, it was Black Sabbath holding back Ozzy!!! Thanks to Sharon,,, Ozzy proved that,, and became one of the greatest metal bands of the 80s! While Sabbath kind of slipped into obscurity,,, except for the stuff done with Ozzy. In fact Ozzy is the only reason why his former band mates are still relevant.
I'm just a stoner fan, and from this point of view Dio was a better Black Sabbath's singer than Ozzy. Whith Dio the music was richer. Tony Iommi explained it very well, Dio really composed his parts instead singing on the the riffs.
Nah didn’t sound like sabbath to me I like dio but he didn’t fit in or sound like sabbath. They were much more dark and doomey sounding with Ozzy and that the sabbath I love.
Retitle the video. "How we made the same mistake as Hawkwind and our singer went on to blow us smooth out of the water just a couple years later". Sabbath was great with Dio. I love Dio. But they were better with Ozzy. And they definitely weren't as big as what they were with Ozzy. And for sure didn't dominate the 80s scene like Ozzy did by himself. Probably saved Ozzys life in the long run. Still a bad business decision.
@@donnareedfan that might be true. Still doesn't change the fact Ozzy has sold more records, played more shows and made more money. When you say Black Sabbath the majority of people think "Iron Man" not "Mob Rules" Black Sabbath played at OzzFest. I don't recall there being a Black Sabbath fest. Just like Hawkwing firing Lemmy. They both went on to bigger and better things and dwarfed their prior bands. Make all the excuses you want as to where, why and how. Sharon did this and Geezer did that, and if it wasn't for blah blah blah. Doesn't matter. Ozzy was a more successful act as a solo artist.
I loved BS first 5 albums, I saw them in the early 70s music was good but their concert was lacking a show( just the band a lit up cross and a grave yard settig) music kicked ass though. I also saw blizzard of Oz, diary of a mad man & no more tears concerts ,what a difference, these were great exciting rock shows! I probably would of listened to Tony and his new band(s) more if they would of changed their name , to me they were just all right without the Oz
Black Sabbath was best with Ozzie and I personally thought all Ozzies songs in his solo albums were better than.The dio Sabbath years.Black Sabbath just didn't sound like they did without Ozzie were all a custom to hearing.
Iommi didn’t like the fact Izzy screamed out to the crowd during iommi’s guitar solos that caused lots of trouble with him ..it was his decision to kick ozzy out ..just watch an ozzy interview
Tony - remaster those damn Tony Martin albums already, they're some of your best work. We're sick of hearing about Ozzy, you had much better singers after him.
Dio is one of the greatest of all time but i cant listen to Sabbath without Ozzy , Dio was totally different very similar to Iron Maidens singer Bruce Dickinson
"Be kind recycle" (wasn't in reference to ancient rock lore). Speaking recycling articles and interviews when's Tony releasing the "Black Sabbath Super DUPER double deluxe remastered, bonus track, ty dyed disc, ultra supercalifragilistic extra extra box set gala galore greatest hits"??
I love Dio, solo and with Sabbath, but it was a completely different sound with him as front man, and not just the vocals. Still, a much better replacement there than with Van Halen replacing Roth with Sammy Hagar. Never did like "Van Hagar" much; a couple of good jams I guess.
Although a "Master of Metal" Ozzy is not exactly the most reliable guy in the world as we've seen. Let's face it, without Sharon to hold the ship together Ozzy would have probably found a way to flake on Randy, Rudy and screw up his new Blizzard of Ozz band as well. (SABBATH RULES)
Yea he was to messed up on drugs , just like all of us were . How’d letting Ozzy go work out for sabbath? O yea the blizzard was better than any sabbath album
when they unceremoniously got rid of ozzy I thought Sabbath was done . Ronnie dio came in and saved this legendary metal band . Ozzy was not in good condition as the other members too . Iommi butler and , ward were so FD up also. they cleaned up and made one hell of a comeback In heaven and hell and ozzy of course made Blizzard of oz . Randy Rhoads saves ozzys career also
@@christhevancura9113 I guess she did kinda but look what she did to him after all these years? using him for her profit. touring non stop . he's in 70s now. his body just can't take it no more but I guess she helped him after sabbath
Never Say Die had about 2 amazing songs on it and about 2 more that were somewhat tolerable. Anyone who thinks that this is a good quality Sabbath album obviously doesn't know much about the band and almost certainly hasn't heard their entire discography. It's definitely not as good as Technical Ecstasy. Enjoy it if you think you are rooting for the "Under-rated"
Sabbath should have NEVER LOOKED BACK! That is the biggest flaw that held the band back after 1984... chasing the Pop Star, Ozzy Osbourne. Should have stuck with Dio the 2nd time. BIG mistake!
Always cool to hear Tony talk about old memories.. eventhough you've heard them a hundred times before 😊
Well said! Now I don't have to comment. Sort of....🙃
It should also be mentioned Ozzy's father died in 1977 which may have played a part in the alcohol abuse, he sings about it (quiet well) in the 1978 album Never Say Die on the song Juniors Eyes...all the original member Sabbath albums were fantastic!!
Edit: also, keep in mind it's been over 50 years since their first album and all 4 members are still alive and kicking!!
They're all alive, not necessarily kicking.
wow.It was Ozzy's Dad that helped get him a PA.
I don't know, even Tony and other Sabbath members admit that Never Say Die was a poor album, and Technical Ecstasy was only marginally better. Heaven & Hell and Mob Rules were much better albums.
@@HighlanderNorth1 I don't know either except there will never be another sound like BS from the 1970s period. I saw them in concert twice...once with Ozzy and again with RJD... I got no complaints.
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I was a bit too young to have seen BS during the original Ozzy period. However, I did see them in late 1981 at the Spectrum in Philly for the Mob Rules tour, which was my first-ever music concert. It was about a month after I'd turned 14 years old. In order for me to have seen BS before Ozzy was fired, I'd have been 10 years old, but at that point I was into KISS, having recently gotten my 1st album of their's(Destroyer), and hadn't even heard Sabbath yet.
Two years later i saw Ozzy for the Bark @ the Moon tour, with Motley Crue as the opening act(Shout @ the Devil tour). Then I saw Dio doing his Sacred Heart tour.
True story from my weed dealer- Dio and Ozzy had the same weed dealer in Burbank. Dio is there and about to leave when Ozzy shows up and the dealer says lets smoke the peace pipe of special reserve. So the 3 get to smoking. and a conversation ensues. Ozzy tells Dio that It was hard being fired but that after the personal bitterness faded he respected the decision and loved the Dio era albums. As Sabbath was always Iommis band. Ozzy also stated that The 1st time he heard Ronnie was in Elf opening for Deep Purple where Elf covered War pigs. Ronnie replied That he always loved original Sabbath and singing along to the tunes. he just hated singing them with Sabbath. Just then the weed dealer took too big of a hit and was coughing when Dio started singing sweet leaf and Ozzy joined in. The dealer then handed Ozzy a harmonica he had stashed in the coffe table. Ozzy played while Dio sang the wizard... after they all settled down jamming and high as hell. Dio tells Ozzy. I have now sang for every original Sabbath member making me the Ultimate Metal God ...and As Great as I am You cannot spell Idiot without Dio. Ozzy erupts in laughter and says I cant spell my name without looking at my knuckles. The 2 greats laugh it all out. and as they get up to go. they look at each other from their limos and Ozzy gives Dio the Devil horns.
thomas - this is great stuff - and probably more true than any BS circulating 40 years after the fact
@whatever google I agree it's a great story! Better than anything I've ever read regarding Dio and Ozzy. Cheers
@@richardhincemon9423 jealous
@@CatDaddySteve I've seen them live 30 times including their first tour of the United States at the Carolina Jubilee in Chapel Hill North Carolina 1970. I was also at the heaven & hell concert September 26th 1980 at the Charlotte Coliseum. That was my first time seeing Ronnie James Dio fronting Black Sabbath and was totally Blown Away by his vocal performance. There were a lot of things said between Ozzy and Ronnie back then and written about in The Press. That's why enjoyed his story so much they both got along so well! Cheers
Great story. True or not.
My older brother listened to Sabbath.
I listened to his albums when he want at home.
1980 with Dio. I was 16. Everyone at school talked about it.
In 1995 I was 16. I was blasting Heaven and Hell along with Too Fast For Love while my classmates were into Pearl Jam, STP, and Collective Soul.
Tony Iommi = Black Sabbath 🤘🤘
Nah all of the original members = black sabbath.
@@jakehyrule7260 have to disagree. Iommi was what made Sabbath so big and his playing is what put the light on them.
@@Jake-sc5hw and I would have to disagree with that, man iommi is literally my favorite guitarist, but I feel it's a disservice to the rest of the "BAND" to say it was just him that made them. They are all gods in my opinion.
Imo, Sabbath needs a frontman like Ozzy or Dio.
@@jakehyrule7260 the "BAND" they all QUIT , except for TONY IOMMI = BLACK SABBATH. Don't @ me!
"Never Say Die" had a couple decent tracks, but it was no "Paranoid". This period gave us the GREAT "Heaven and Hell" with DIO at his best. It all worked out in the end, and these guys are STILL producing great music...Note: I was 16 in '78 when I bought "Never say Die" and Rainbow's "Long Live Rock and Roll" at the same time. The good old days, for sure....
A matter of taste. Can't stand "Heaven and Hell" and prefer "Never Say Die" far above "Paranoid". The only problem with "Never Say Die" is the sound engineering was poor. Sabbath needed outside help to get a better recording of the material. I'm talking general mic technique, sound levels, mixing, etc.
Agree I thought the album was trash except the title track
@@manictree5436 I think "A Hard Road is a fkn jam I like playing the drums to it, Juniors Eyes and NSD are great too. H&H I like the whole record except "Lady Evil" I think the song stunk. Tony's work on Die Young is fantastic and Bill on "Lonely is the Word, a great blues/metal song I also love to play
@@m42037 Just imagine the "Never Say Die" album with far better production. Notice Sabbath had Martin Birch produce and engineer "Heaven and Hell". Too bad they didn't have someone like that on "Never Say Die" or "Technical Ecstasy".
@@manictree5436 Manic I agree with you 100 percent about Martin Birch. He was one of the greatest producers ever.
Saw them live in 1970. At the the time there was nobody like them. I was blown away!
Me too.
If you're like me Clive, then you might just be shaking your head in bewilderment at a lot of the sheer nonsense written here by posters that were simply not there and all of whom are after the fact. I never ceases to amaze me just how little they understand about the original band and what a force to be reckoned with that it was.
@Backstage Pass Thank you for taking my head out of some heavy shit these days. I do think Dio saved them at that point and it maybe even saved Ozzy. Love Dio and Ozzy but Ozzy always been my favorite.
They felt they needed another vocalist, and they got the man who is very likely the best metal rock singer ever. So that's fucking amazing.
Ian Gillan???
Billy Milano?
Screw the smart@$$es , Ronnie is the King for sure!
@@wesleywarsmith1113 Ian gillan actually was Black Sabbath's singer from 1980- 1983. Billy Milano is just the worst singer I could think of to be funny.
@@joevid1992 #Pure_Blood Stay #Pure_Blood!
Wacken 2009 , die young, with RJD , listen and watch . It is truly amazing. And I was a sabbath fan from the start .
I enjoy that wacken show too
Iommi's menacing riffs have influenced every metal guitarist for the last 50 years
Facts! I learned the guitar just to play his riffs n solos!
Indeed. Though there were other bands making heavy music, Sabbath were doing it earlier and heavier than anyone else. Not even Judas Priest went as heavy as Sabbath did in the 70s, though they did break new ground when it came to speed. Moreover, besides Iommi's riffwriting talent, simply using distortion as heavy as that was a groundbreaking thing in 1970. And like so many other groundbreaking things, Sabbath was often misunderstood and undervalued by its contemporaries.
I liked Sabbath when I got older, but in my early teens it was too melancholy and dark. But I loved Ozzy. Loved him. One of my all time favorite vocalists and rock performers even though I was at the concert where he sounded horrendous and the reason being he had a heart attack. And Ronnie James Dio songs like Man on the Silver Mountain are rock/metal classics as well. But Ozzy is a genius. His voice on Changes is so haunting it makes you feel like you just broke up with someone and had your heart ripped out every time you hear it. Ozzy is spiritual beyond most any performer. And what he and Randy Rhodes did.. incredible.
Good day, I was at the "Never Say Die" concert in Portland,Or, early '79. It was my 8th time seeing them Live 😃 and it was fantastic, as ALWAYS. And this new band, with an amazing guitarist, vocalist that could jump as if he had an invisible trampoline, and a bassist that could sing excellent backing/harmonizing. I hadn't really heard a lot of them at the time as they were new. Yep, Van Halen... Phenomenal show, WELL WORTH the $5.00, (for you young 'uns, most shows normally cost that much back then). Eddy was still turning his back to the audience during certain licks, so we guitarists couldn't steal them 😂. Man, the 70s and 80s were just kick ass times for live shows. 😃 😃 😃
Whoa, a very old Sabbath fan I see!
Even your profile picture hair is kind of a resemblance of Ozzy's!
@@Thomasmemoryscentral Good day, Yes, back when I was younger, people always said I looked like Ozzy. It may have been because I wear a huge cross and played in a Heavy Metal band. Now I'm just an old rocker, and at 62, still have a nice full head of hair, and have NEVER died it. Maybe cause I never sweat the small stuff 😃 Have a great day
Are you serious about Eddie turning his back to hide his licks? I play guitar and this statement makes me loose a little respect.
@@barbarafogle3541 Good day, Absolutely. He was known for doing this in the clubs because, at the time, Eddy was doing amazing things with the guitar, that had never been done. He didn't want other guitarists stealing his Licks before they, Van Halen, were signed. This carried on through their first tour, perhaps out of habit. If you notice, it didn't take long for other guitarists to start using his technique after Van Halen's first album, thus, he wasn't being "Paranoid", 😂 pardon the pun 😂
U got to see Music history at that show. A most important time in rock roll history. U lucky mofo!!!
I love every track on Never Say Die.
me too.
As album, I like Never say die over both Technical ecstasy and Sabotage. There are couple great song on these two also, but as whole, Never say Die is better album for me.
This is pretty great, hearing Iommi himself try to explain what happened.
I heard BS as a 13 year old in '70. Bought the album quick as i could.
Sorta gave up on new stuff after Vol IV though a friend bought everything.
I bought SBS and Sabotage way later.
Heaven And Hell another bought new by that guy.
Staggering ! Mob Rules and Dehumanizer had some great tunes, too.
What is even more interesting though, is that no participant in the events can seem to get to the bottom of what really happened. There is no clear narrative. There is just ...i held his head under the mud until the bubbles stopped rising.
2022 and it is amazing all 4 of them are still alive.
One of the best metal bands ever.
Yes and sorta invented it along the way.
@Tim Morrison lron Maiden ain't good enough to polish Black Sabbath boots, & have been making the same album over & over for 40yrs, it's just that their brain dead fans haven't noticed.
Not one of the best, only the best metal band ever, that's God's honest true!
@Tim Morrison there would be no maiden without Black Sabbath. Also keep in mind sabbath was formed in 68. Maiden didn’t form until 7 years later and their first singer and 2 albums sucked ostrich dick. Just my opinion
@Tim Morrison Iron Maiden sucks
Black Sabbath will always be Ozzy, Geezer, Billy and Tony but being a massive Dio fan also I think Dio belongs to the Black Sabbath family too 🤘 😈
I always tend to think of that lineup as "Heaven & Hell", but not in any way that demerits or diminishes Dio. Just in terms of sheer sound, that lineup is my favorite.
i seen Sabbath with Ronnie in 1982 CNE grandstand Toronto i was 13 never forget it
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For me, personally, Sabbath was only Sabbath with the original lineup. I wasn't really a big Dio fan, but I was an Ozzy fan. Also, the first five Sabbath albums were definitely the best. Things started to go downhill after Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. Similarly, with Ozzy's solo albums, the first five or six albums were the best ones (and of course, nothing compares to the first two). I think there may be a hard limit on how many really good albums a single group can produce before they run out of steam. The Beatles are on the high end of the scale, but perhaps it is more of a timespan thing than a fixed number of albums or songs (the Beatles were only releasing albums for seven years).
So what do you think the band should have done just retire and be farmers I don't think that would be fair for Tony Terry and Bill Ozzy should have got treatment and got off the drugs which we know would have been possible for him I like Ozzy but I was glad to see him leave
@@mikekeeler6362 they should have changed the name like they did and kept it changed. It’s not sabbath without ozzy on vocals.
@@shanebroussard6262 yeah Warner Bros never would have allowed that do you have to remember it's the record company that runs the business
@@shanebroussard6262 and would it be Black Sabbath without Tony iomi after all he's the sound
@@shanebroussard6262 but we've debated that forever it's all water under the bridge now
I saw Black Sabbath only one time, the Technical Ecstasy tour. I distinctly remember two things about that concert...Ted Nugent opened up for them, he showed lots of energy, running around the stage and lots of screaming and yelling and making his Gibson Byrdland wail. Then Tony Iommi coming out and pretty much standing in one spot the whole show letting his fingers do the work, he was awesome. The other thing I remember was that Ozzy had a roadie off stage left working as his personal bartender. Ozzy was drunk and sloppy, which was a damn shame because the band was so tight.
Firing Ozzy and Dio was the best thing ever!!! 3 black Sabbaths were created. Ozzy, Dio, and Black Sabbath. Amazing albums were made.
I disagree that Ozzy's drug use was the same as the other three. On the Technical Ecstasy tour Ozzy disappeared several times, especially as the news of his father's illness reached them. Bill Ward filled the vocals a few times then Dave Walker was almost signed when Ozzy came back. There was also the infamous Alamo urination. Don't forget that they had recently found all their money had been mismanaged (to be polite). They probably saved Ozzy's life from slow poisoning. Remember these were not psychiatrists or saints, they were rockers handling the problem the best way they knew. Shock therapy, if you will.
When Blizzard came out it was absolutely amazing. Shocking, even. Without Randy I doubt a comeback would have happened.
the Alamo incident was WELL after him leaving Sabbath.... & as far as his drug use in the band- compared to the others_ Ozzy went off the rails when high. He couldn't handle it and stay fuctional . That is why he was fired.
Ozzy had reached a point where very few would have bet on him. And after the firing I think his confidence was nearly shot. Not a big Sharon fan, but it must be admitted that she saw something in him -- a potential and attractive charisma hidden behind his depression and drugged-out withdrawal. In spite of his failings and weaknesses, she believed in him and had all the right connections. Then it all came together with Randy and the boys, like you said. I guess "shock therapy" sometimes works!
I agree as well. Ozzy was way more of loose cannon out of control with his addiction far worse than the other band members. And it really was lucky that he found Randy and was able to turn it around. I am still amazed because after reading Off the Rails by Rudy Sarzo Ozzy cancels like every other show on that tour. If Blizzard and Diary hadn't been such great albums out of the gate I think Ozzy would have probably drank himself to death if his solo band failed.
I did not mean to excuse Ozzy's misbehavior at all. But the facts must be considered. As a child his learning disability possibly dyslexia with a natural tendency to worry left him a nervous sort always trying to prove he wasn't just a "back Street kid".
He loved the stage but felt so keyed up after he couldn't sleep. This is what is said about Keith Moon: a few drinks was what it took to get to bed. Then later a few bottles. Ozzy was a perfect candidate to become "Rat Salad" at the "Hand of Doom", a heroin needle.
Also he and Tony did not exactly get along. There are indicators Tony was kind of a bully to Ozzy in high school. But they tried to keep it professional. Still it's not easy for a nervous worrywart like Ozzy to deal with especially when they found out their manager left them broke and the first six album's songs, cars, houses, everything were all licensed in his name, not the band members. Court battles are hard on the digestion and that good REM sleep. Then his dad got sick and died, one of very few people Ozzy could rely on. After his father's death the alcohol really caught up to him, plus eight records and eight tours in about as many years. He was burned out and grieving and on stage every night. I'm a bit surprised he didn't go postal or something. Say what you will about the VILE Digital Bitch but she did keep him alive. (And I was at Ozzfest 1993 in Cali where she put roadies and goons and that unmistakable hulking not-Jake E. Lee to disrupt the Iron Maiden show. They threw eggs at Nicko McBrain one of the nicest guys ever.)
@@rjonboy7608 Seriously? What a wokefest pantomime of cliche after cliche. Ozzy was from fkn Birmingham, ffs. He wasn't a choir boy and dressed by his mother as Lilywhite Lilith. Every band member was surrounded by drugs and drink, nearly ever band was screwed over by management somewhere down the line and many also had parents who died. That's life.
Your take on Keith Moon is also very misleading as he swallowed everything, before or after a gig. What "to get to bed"? Are you serious? Lol. Yes, we all know Sharon had her methods, but Ritchie Blackmore and the roadies used to pelt Joe Lynn Turner with rotten fruit. It's an olde British custom call "avin' a larf", ya dig?
Black sabbath forever RAMSES from France
What's crazy is how well Ozzys firing turned out for all involved. We got a much better solo Ozzy with Randy Rhodes and a much better Sabbath with Ronnie James!!
true.
Sabbath was not sabbath after ozzy left they basically turned into dio’s backup band. They didn’t really sound like sabbath they sounded like Dio. I don’t think either was better just different. Let’s be honest they best hits was in the ozzy era.
Yeah that was fine for a minute... then ozzy sucked after Rhodes died, and sabbath sucked without dio.... they should have stayed together
@@shanebroussard6262 I loved the 2( plus live) albums with RJD. Hell, I love "Born Again" with I. Gillan !!!!
@@shanebroussard6262 yeah I agree i feel dio he is good in his own right just compared to Ozzy era just not as good
This channel just rocks.
Love Ozzy
Hey, it all worked out well for Ozzie in the end.
any album with Black Sabbath label on it were AWESOME... PERIOD! they are ALL ORIGINAL as far as I am concern... Cheers!
Legends of Rock.
🤘DIO🤘
Perfection 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻😈
Born Again with Ian Gillan was something else, I prefer it over Dio era, but I guess I'm pretty much alone in that camp, am I?
I saw that tour of 78 in Nashville..the riot gig. I was up front and when they announced that they were rescheduling Sabbath and no sooner had the guy said it the crowd erupted. Someone threw a Jack Daniels bottle thru Bill Ward's drumhead.
Then they smashed Municipal Auditorium to pieces. Fights everywhere.
This was on a Friday. They rescheduled for that Sunday afternoon.
VH opened again..this time a shorter set.
Sabbath comes up. Ozzy can't sing for shite. He is basically screeching. Iommi looks embarrassed. But Bill Ward still kicked ass.
It's still in my top 5 gig list. For all the wrong reasons .
Wow what an amazing memory 🤘
Wasn't that at the Murphy Center on campus of MTSU in Murfreesboro ?
@@midnightrider9876 No, it was Municipal Auditorium in Nashville...I did however see The Who at Murphy Center in 75 👍
I saw Black Sabbath at Painters Mill, MD. The back up band was... Fleetwood Mac! Unfortunately the crowd got out of control and pushed a young woman through the glass door. Sabbath panicked and left after 45 minutes. I had front row seats in front of a speaker. They did the intro to "Iron Man" and almost blew out my ears.
Even though Dio is a great singer, they were best with Ozzy. Still, we got Dio-era Sabbath and we also got Rhoads-era Ozzy, so no complaints here!
I personally like the Dio era better. Earlier Sabbath just bored me. And I like Ozzy better outside of Sabbath. Weird maybe. But that’s just my preference.
I was in the 10th grade when I heard Sabbath had fired Ozzy and I said to myself that's the last we're ever going to hear of Sabbath or Ozzy. A few months later I heard the first Ozzy album and I was completely floored.
That’s a great point
@@Wargasm644 complete opposite for me.
Ozzy and Ronnie are fantastic singers for sure ozzy because he sang on all of sabbaths most iconic albums and Ronnie for the fact he made three of the best sabbath albums heaven and hell, mob rules and dehuminizor not to mention he was a much much more technical vocalist.
Finally a story about Sabbath where we don't have to hear about Iommi's missing fingers.
Well not sure if black sabbath would've been good with ozzy still.. But ozzy solo gave us some of the best music ever. And than sabbath had dio and that was
Great too. So not bad turnouts
Iommi and Butler must've just sat there and wondered "What did we do?" Ozzy came back with a vengeance and blew them away. Ozzy started selling platinum albums and selling out arenas while Sabbath was barely selling small theaters or clubs. Look at the #'s for albums sold in the U.S. Blizzard of Oz= 5,000,000 vs. Heaven And Hell=1,000,000. Diary Of A Madman=3,000,000 vs. Mob Rules=500,000. Speak Of The Devil=1,000,000 vs. Live Evil=Not even 250,000. Bark At The Moon=3,000,000 vs. Born Again= Again, Not even 250,000.
Love how you did the run down on album sales! I had forgotten about most of those albums! Only knew sabbath screwed up letting go of Ozzy! But thanks for the rundown!
Followed Ozzy for the most part which also gave us Rhodes. Who could ask for more than that?
Ozzy had shrewd and vicious management. Sabbath had a relic for management. Poor business decisions. The music was still great. Ozzy's music was shit by 1990.
ABBAs 1980s 'Super Trouper' sold 10 million copies. So it is twice a good as 'Blizzard of Oz' and 20 times better than 'Mob Rules'?
I can safely say no metal heads bought one single ABBA album so the analogy still stands.
Sabbath kicking out Ozzy resulted in Blizzard Of Oz, Diary Of A Madman, Heaven And Hell and Mob Rules. It was a good decision for everyone.
When DIO joined Sabbath they came out with two of the best metal albums ever. Probably two of the top 5 sabbath albums ever.
agree
I love your satire!
The first 5 sabbath albums are the best ones
@@MrOasis316 I love sabotage
@@barryrammer7906 who doesn’t.
It was weirdly refreshing to hear Tony speak well of Ronnie, not that he’s ever said ill of him. Especially when he talks about the way that Dio did things differently than Ozzy. After hearing many rumors, it’s good to hear something straight from the horse’s mouth.
That was a good decision. Turned out well for Ozzy at least
Im a fan of both vocalist
"We'd been around for a while at that pint" lol cheers
I know about snorting and puffing but not tooting! Thanks Tony (around 3:00)
Ozzy aged ten years in like two.
Your thumbnail picture is the wrong way round.Tony is a left-handed guitar player so the neck should be pointing to the left in the photo. Please correct it.
A lot of lead vocalists end up going back but apart from some one off shows Ozzy hasn’t needed Sabbath. Sabbath were great for 10 years but never captured those glory years again.
And Tony Martin...
Ozzy singng on the riff is just a sign of inexperience and not being able to hear an alternate melody but there are times that it works and these are the times that it did. It does get old after a while hearing the singer singing the same as the riff. Dio come in with a fresh change and changed the direction of Sabbath. Some think for the good some don't. I never was crazy about Ronny James but you can't dent his vocal ability. Ozzy on the other hand has that special charisma about him when he performs and that's why he has become as big as his is. It's going to be a very sad day for all of music when Ozzy crosses over. His catalog spans at least 50 years so radio stations will be playing his music for weeks.
Hate to say it ozzys the one that made out best thing that could have happened to him at that time,unfortunately drugs alcohol and egos ruined many a bands 😕 progress
I saw them when they reunited with dio. Awesome show. They had slayer opening for them.
I’m an Ozzy fan, I’m not interested in Black Sabbath without Ozzy. It was too different. A friend said it was too happy, I agreed. My favorite album is Speak Of The Devil, that’s the one with Brad Gillis on guitar. The old Sabbath stuff was so much better that way.
Brad's embellished solos were fanfuckingtastic! Wild with the whammy bar and more expressive than Iommi
@@rogerwalker2224 Yes, definitely epic level!
I couldn't imagine a life without not knowing all their music
I have button with this image of Ozzy. I love Sabbath, and people ask me if that picture is of my girlfriend or wife. I say "yes",might as well be, more love is to be found in a Sabbath song than cheating sluts.
Biggest mistake Black Sabbath ever did, no matter what anyone says. They never really recovered while my brother Ozzy Osbourne went on and became one of the biggest successes in Rock history.
Black Sabbath with Ozzy was solid; Black Sabbath with Dio was phenomenal. Yes, I said it.
No way the first 5 sabbath albums are the peak
Sorry... Sabbath is with Ozzy, as AC/DC is with Bon Scott and Van Hallen is with David Lee Roth. There are more examples, but these ones are good for the case
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'79 Never Say Die tour Oakland Coliseum Arena, VH blew them off the stage & then Sabbath w/Dio Day on the Green '80 Heaven & Hell tour, Ozzy & Randy Cow Palace 2 shows 81/82 New Years Evil, Sabbath with Dio 1982/83 Mob Rules tour Cow Palace.....etc! 🤘
Sabbbath firing Ozzy was the best thing to ever happen because it gave the world Randy Rhodes and Ozzy’s solo career was 10 times the career of Black Sabbath. I’m just sayn🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Tony was saying how ozzy would only sing where he was comfortable,,,, well that is why Black Sabbath got so famous! With Dio ,,, Sabbath was lacking big time!!! It wasn’t Ozzy holding back Black Sabbath,,, it was Black Sabbath holding back Ozzy!!! Thanks to Sharon,,, Ozzy proved that,, and became one of the greatest metal bands of the 80s! While Sabbath kind of slipped into obscurity,,, except for the stuff done with Ozzy. In fact Ozzy is the only reason why his former band mates are still relevant.
Well said, a lot of these other commenters are living in a fantasy world.
Had to make room for two of the greatest albums ever made! 🤘Heaven and Hell and Mob Rules! 🤘
Dio 4ever...
I'm just a stoner fan, and from this point of view Dio was a better Black Sabbath's singer than Ozzy. Whith Dio the music was richer. Tony Iommi explained it very well, Dio really composed his parts instead singing on the the riffs.
Nah didn’t sound like sabbath to me I like dio but he didn’t fit in or sound like sabbath. They were much more dark and doomey sounding with Ozzy and that the sabbath I love.
The photo in the thumbnail is wrong - not going to listen to your theory if you can’t get the Puc right
Dio made Sabbath. He was a leader and the rest is history
Retitle the video. "How we made the same mistake as Hawkwind and our singer went on to blow us smooth out of the water just a couple years later". Sabbath was great with Dio. I love Dio. But they were better with Ozzy. And they definitely weren't as big as what they were with Ozzy. And for sure didn't dominate the 80s scene like Ozzy did by himself. Probably saved Ozzys life in the long run. Still a bad business decision.
Ozzy was a lousy drunk and doing zip when he was kicked out. Sharon saved him, he did not save himself. Geezer wrote most of the lyrics anyway.
@@donnareedfan that might be true. Still doesn't change the fact Ozzy has sold more records, played more shows and made more money. When you say Black Sabbath the majority of people think "Iron Man" not "Mob Rules" Black Sabbath played at OzzFest. I don't recall there being a Black Sabbath fest. Just like Hawkwing firing Lemmy. They both went on to bigger and better things and dwarfed their prior bands. Make all the excuses you want as to where, why and how. Sharon did this and Geezer did that, and if it wasn't for blah blah blah. Doesn't matter. Ozzy was a more successful act as a solo artist.
@@donnareedfan randy saved him actually 😳😳
Heaven and Hell was a great album as was Blizzard of Oz!
TRES Heavy
Why is picture of tony playing right handed?
I loved BS first 5 albums, I saw them in the early 70s music was good but their concert was lacking a show( just the band a lit up cross and a grave yard settig) music kicked ass though. I also saw blizzard of Oz, diary of a mad man & no more tears concerts ,what a difference, these were great exciting rock shows! I probably would of listened to Tony and his new band(s) more if they would of changed their name , to me they were just all right without the Oz
War Pigs is arguably one of the best songs ever written and performed.
But at least since 1972 the substance addiction had got a way in their music, Never Say Die was not the turning point on this subject matter lol
Black Sabbath was best with Ozzie and I personally thought all Ozzies songs in his solo albums were better than.The dio Sabbath years.Black Sabbath just didn't sound like they did without Ozzie were all a custom to hearing.
Nice job in the pic of turning Tony into a righty...
Iommi didn’t like the fact Izzy screamed out to the crowd during iommi’s guitar solos that caused lots of trouble with him ..it was his decision to kick ozzy out ..just watch an ozzy interview
Heaven and Hell and The Mob Rules exist thanks to this decisions. I am glad that it happened
I know it may be controversial for some but "Heaven and Hell" next to "Master of Reality" is my favourite Black Sabbath album.
It’s not controversial they are great albums. Paranoid is my favourite sabbath album.
There a great band but with Ozzy to me that’s Sabbath
There is no Sabbath without Ozzy
@@jamesball5743 here here!
Tony - remaster those damn Tony Martin albums already, they're some of your best work. We're sick of hearing about Ozzy, you had much better singers after him.
They all had their noses in the blow, but Ozzy's drinking was out of control..lost in Chicago.
What a a legend. Made historic music with Ozzy then made probably the best album ever recorded with Dio.
Dio didn’t sing on paranoid
Dio is one of the greatest of all time but i cant listen to Sabbath without Ozzy , Dio was totally different very similar to Iron Maidens singer Bruce Dickinson
Did Ozzy a huge favor.
Best thing they did was to fired ozzy and hired Dio.🤘
"Be kind recycle" (wasn't in reference to ancient rock lore). Speaking recycling articles and interviews when's Tony releasing the "Black Sabbath Super DUPER double deluxe remastered, bonus track, ty dyed disc, ultra supercalifragilistic extra extra box set gala galore greatest hits"??
I love Dio, solo and with Sabbath, but it was a completely different sound with him as front man, and not just the vocals. Still, a much better replacement there than with Van Halen replacing Roth with Sammy Hagar. Never did like "Van Hagar" much; a couple of good jams I guess.
Although a "Master of Metal" Ozzy is not exactly the most reliable guy in the world as we've seen. Let's face it, without Sharon to hold the ship together Ozzy would have probably found a way to flake on Randy, Rudy and screw up his new Blizzard of Ozz band as well. (SABBATH RULES)
If it hadn't happened, he wouldn't have went solo and go on to sell more albums than sabbath.
Yea he was to messed up on drugs , just like all of us were . How’d letting Ozzy go work out for sabbath? O yea the blizzard was better than any sabbath album
when they unceremoniously got rid of ozzy I thought Sabbath was done . Ronnie dio came in and saved this legendary metal band . Ozzy was not in good condition as the other members too . Iommi butler and , ward were so FD up also. they cleaned up and made one hell of a comeback In heaven and hell and ozzy of course made Blizzard of oz . Randy Rhoads saves ozzys career also
And Sharon too , she was part of getting Ozzy together.
@@christhevancura9113 I guess she did kinda but look what she did to him after all these years? using him for her profit. touring non stop . he's in 70s now. his body just can't take it no more but I guess she helped him after sabbath
@@arturoalmazan5262 ozzy loves what he does. You can’t blame it all on her. Ozzy wouldn’t quit touring if he was single.
@@arturoalmazan5262 There’s no kinda to it. Without her Ozzy was done. He wouldn’t have had his solo career without her encouraging him to go on.
Syd Barret was fired by Pink Floyd
Ozzy now owns 50% of Sabbath with Iomi owning the other half. The other 2 members own nothing
Yeah! For the bands future lol! Lol
Never Say Die had about 2 amazing songs on it and about 2 more that were somewhat tolerable. Anyone who thinks that this is a good quality Sabbath album obviously doesn't know much about the band and almost certainly hasn't heard their entire discography. It's definitely not as good as Technical Ecstasy. Enjoy it if you think you are rooting for the "Under-rated"
I mean not saying its a good sabbath album (it isnt) but i think its better than technical ecstacy (even though both of those 2 are pretty bad albums)
on my 149 inch screen all these guys look like aliens the facial features pops out
Not personal just business
Sabbath should have NEVER LOOKED BACK! That is the biggest flaw that held the band back after 1984... chasing the Pop Star, Ozzy Osbourne. Should have stuck with Dio the 2nd time. BIG mistake!
You mad bro???
The first four albums were supreme. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath signaled a decline. It was never the same after that.