Love Karolina and MoveMyTalent. I relocated to Estonia with them and the whole process felt like a piece of cake. I didn't have to worry about a single thing. And MMT has some of the warmest people you can find in this country.
Karolina is a sweetheart. She came with us to apply for our TPR this passed Monday. 🥰 Lovely video Manan. I guess the moral of the story is to just give it time. We are also new here. Coming from a country where everyone is family, stranger or not, it’s hard here in Estonia, but we cannot come to Estonia and expect people to change just for us. We must try by all means to adapt to the culture here. All in good time. No rush ❤
Ok, that seals it. I need to be working in Estonia. I HATE the question every week 'How was your weekend?" Would love to work for someone who only says to me "Tere" and "head aega."
As a Estonian I can say that Lithuanians and Latvians do not feel real foreiginers for us. In Estonian hearts there is special place for them. Girl from Lithuania and boy from Pakistan are indeed technically both immigrants, but I bet they experience completely different treatment here in Estonia.
Very good interview. I've been hiring manager quite a long in Estonia and good to see from relocation specialist confirmation similar topics I have experienced, especially about cultural differences and individual approach. Usually hiring manager is "outsourcing" the relocation and don't see the all daily details behind settling in outside of workhours for the new employee. Like Karolina mentioned most important part of her work is not documentation but "moral support" and small details which can boost the onboarding experience. Also "living in the bubble" is very important topic you touched, from both sides for the newly joined and the host(s), this even needs a separate video and taking to parts because this can be the root of different long term issues from individual and society perspective
Interesting when you mentioned about the solitary bubbles. Because I have been saying it for a while now. It’s big issue but it’s easier to see from the outside.
@@MananAnwarYeah I guess lack of sunshine is the biggest problem with Estonia’s weather. But then again there is not much we can do about it. Just gotta hope for a good summer.
:-) why all leaving EST: 1. slow internet(1ms/ €70.- per month), 2. high prices(kindergarden 150.- per child a month, living cost), 3. no money(nowhere). 4. poor education, 5. poor medicine, 6. no public transport - ZERO!, 7. list is huge! bad weather, no work.
Tere, Juhtusin juhuslikult vaatama teie saadet. Väga huvitav oli. On asiu milles ma teiega 100% nõus ei ole aga see on mu enda kogemus ja arvamus. Muidugi nii nagu ka teistes riikides on siin palju erinevaid inimesi ja mõned on sõbralikud teised vaenulikumad. Ilmselt mängib suurt rolli see mis kohta ja kellega kokku satud. Ma ise puutun tööjuures palju Ukrainlastega kokku ja me kõik aitame üksteist. Igaljuhul oli saade huvitav ja hariv. Jätka samas vaimus. Tervitused sulle ja Karolinale. Ilmar.
In Poland, if you are a foreigner, with a good group (there may be different work environments, so I can's speak for all), people will engage with conversation with you spontaneously, because they are curious. So if you won't be withdrawn yourself (if you are, you will be rather left alone, unless you have some persistent extroverts in your work team), it's relatively easy to meet and befriend people, at least on some basic level (I'm not talking about best friends, that's different). So in that regard, we are very different to Estonians.
@@MananAnwar I can't be sure, because I have no direct experiences with German work culture, but from what I heard, it's fairly similar. However, because there are not so many foreigners in Poland, we are more curious on average, and we are more direct. I think it all may vary from the persons in the group. If you have some crazy extroverts that are eager to break social norms just for fun, the work atmosphere becomes very friendly, loose, natural and informal. I experienced it, but I suspect, this isn't unfortunately a norm. It is true, that Poland with time became more westernized. In a way, we have still many Slavic culture traits, but with strong western influences (which is visible in bigger cities, bigger companies and when you work with younger people or for younger people). Basically, Poles were for years traveling abroad for work to Germany, Austria, UK and brought ideas, work values and similar approaches to Poland. This is why Ukrainians or Belarusians feel in Poland at home - it's not so foreign as Western countries, and they can understand the culture, but on the other hand, all is very strongly Westernized and developed with the difference that Poland is more homogenous (compared to Germany or France). People are more polite in social situations than in eastern Slavic countries, more positive, less judgmental, more carefree, but for a US citizen, we are still rigid, not smiley, rude people ;). So all depends on what perspective you are looking from. From your videos, Poles and Estonians share many cultural traits, but there are some strong differences: we are easier to talk to and more extrovert on average. Poles are religious (at least based on stats and numbers of people in churches, but many of them just goes because of habit, I''m not religious myself), and not so comfortable being naked (so unlike Estonians or Germans). There is strong food culture in Poland. Because of the homogeneity, Poles tend to be xenophobic on average, but we are also curious and open, especially younger people. So there will be ones that will give harder times to foreigners and those who will be friendly and ask a lot of questions, trying to get to know them, again out of sheer curiosity. Living in one of the bigger cities in Poland is definitely easier than on the countryside, as people are more accustomed to various foreigners. In a village, you would get a lot of grimm stares from old people and curious ones from children... In bigger cities, nobody would look twice thou.
It would have been great to have Move My Talent help us out as we moved entirely on our own. It was hard. They helped when we moved jobs but the initial relocation was difficult
This video couldn't have come at a more better time. I am about to head over to Estonia for my studies and mannn...this is the worst I've felt in a long time. I'm having cold feet, idk if I should be doing this. And coupled with the fact that this is my first international travel makes it even worse 😢
Don't worry. Whenever things are difficult in short-term, they are easier in long term. And besides that you will meet lovely people who are coming on the same journey with you.
Hi Benjen, same here. I totally understand, but don't worry, you are not alone! Newcomers like us will help each other, and we'll learn the Estonian language to make new friends after landing. It will be much better than what we expected, trust me! 🙌
Thank you. Interesting as always. Balts should've develop closer ties after usssr collapse. I grew up not far from latvian border, yet I almost never met latvian person or know much of anything about my neighbour balts.
I agree with you. I'm Latvian, and have been to Valga area and Tallinn. To learn what Estonians are like first hand and see their environment. Come to Latvia! We in Latvia talk about Estonia a lot. We always compare ourselves to you and how everything is better in Estonia (apart from Narva aspect, lol). We read your literature, learn your music bands, have your independence and Soviet times deportation dates mentioned in our news etc. We pay attention to Estonia and Lithuania. Typical middle child complex, lol
Also, you might met more Latvians than you think. Many Latvians near EE border know Estonian language fairly well, and often go over border to Estonian shops etc.
Sir please visit Pakistan and conduct seminar for study and work in Estonia Lithuania and Latvia at various universities and colleges of Karachi Lahore and Islamabad.
We had a huge scandal in Latvia last year where Indian and Pakistani students were involved. Hundreds of people applied for students visa, matriculated the state university, but didn't show up for any lecture during the academic year. They were found working as take-away couriers in Riga, illegally opening businesses there or moving to Germany. Student visa prohibits from working, and they know that. They just never care for rules or law. Can you suggest a way to teach them rules the way they would respect them?
Manan, how's it going with dating with Estonian women? Are they interested to move in the USA 🇺🇸? What about dating agencies? Do you know any valid One to recommend?
If an Estonian woman wants to move to the USA (or anywhere), she will do it by herself. We're pretty resourceful. Estonia is not the "passport bro paradise" that you're thinking of...
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Love Karolina and MoveMyTalent. I relocated to Estonia with them and the whole process felt like a piece of cake. I didn't have to worry about a single thing. And MMT has some of the warmest people you can find in this country.
Karolina is a sweetheart. She came with us to apply for our TPR this passed Monday. 🥰 Lovely video Manan. I guess the moral of the story is to just give it time. We are also new here. Coming from a country where everyone is family, stranger or not, it’s hard here in Estonia, but we cannot come to Estonia and expect people to change just for us. We must try by all means to adapt to the culture here. All in good time. No rush ❤
It definitely takes time to adjust to Estonian culture, there is nothing wrong with that👍
Ok, that seals it. I need to be working in Estonia. I HATE the question every week 'How was your weekend?" Would love to work for someone who only says to me "Tere" and "head aega."
As a Estonian I can say that Lithuanians and Latvians do not feel real foreiginers for us. In Estonian hearts there is special place for them. Girl from Lithuania and boy from Pakistan are indeed technically both immigrants, but I bet they experience completely different treatment here in Estonia.
Such an informative video! Thank you both!!
Manan is really a fantastic anchor and he asked the the questions graciously and karolina kuru answered them openly and comprehensively. Thanks.
Karolina is an amazing woman, so helpful, thank you for helping Rahul, Vedhika and myself, I was recently there with my broken leg and foot❤
Hey Martha, glad to have you here.
Thank you Manan for keeping sharing these wonderful interviews and informative guides about Estonia. Extremely helpful!
I truly appreciate this interview while I'm in a period of considering relocating myself there.
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Very good interview. I've been hiring manager quite a long in Estonia and good to see from relocation specialist confirmation similar topics I have experienced, especially about cultural differences and individual approach. Usually hiring manager is "outsourcing" the relocation and don't see the all daily details behind settling in outside of workhours for the new employee. Like Karolina mentioned most important part of her work is not documentation but "moral support" and small details which can boost the onboarding experience. Also "living in the bubble" is very important topic you touched, from both sides for the newly joined and the host(s), this even needs a separate video and taking to parts because this can be the root of different long term issues from individual and society perspective
Interesting when you mentioned about the solitary bubbles. Because I have been saying it for a while now. It’s big issue but it’s easier to see from the outside.
As an expat Canadian, when fellow expats complain about weather in Estonia I laugh and say "If only you knew"
The weather is even worse in Canada?? That sucks😂
I think in canada you still have sun majority of year. Even though it’s colder
@@MananAnwarYeah I guess lack of sunshine is the biggest problem with Estonia’s weather. But then again there is not much we can do about it. Just gotta hope for a good summer.
@@MananAnwar Canada is big. Some parts do. Some parts don't. Not everyone is from Toronto
@@martinkoitmae6655 if you look at Canada map, you get the idea on variety of weather and seasons in Canada. 🙄😂
Kudos to Karolina for going through the Belgian administrative system. Even for locals, it can be tough 😅
😀
Good day. Please guide where to get Carolina's details. Thank you
just a question - why there is a feeling now that everyone around me (expats) in Tallinn is leaving ? is this true? is the immigration negative ?
Will know more when end of year statistics come.
Great interview....so helpful
Glad it was helpful!
:-) why all leaving EST: 1. slow internet(1ms/ €70.- per month), 2. high prices(kindergarden 150.- per child a month, living cost), 3. no money(nowhere). 4. poor education, 5. poor medicine, 6. no public transport - ZERO!, 7. list is huge! bad weather, no work.
helpful video 🎉
Did she say white expats around 10:35?
Tere,
Juhtusin juhuslikult vaatama teie saadet. Väga huvitav oli.
On asiu milles ma teiega 100% nõus ei ole aga see on mu enda kogemus ja arvamus. Muidugi nii nagu ka teistes riikides on siin palju erinevaid inimesi ja mõned on sõbralikud teised vaenulikumad. Ilmselt mängib suurt rolli see mis kohta ja kellega kokku satud. Ma ise puutun tööjuures palju Ukrainlastega kokku ja me kõik aitame üksteist.
Igaljuhul oli saade huvitav ja hariv. Jätka samas vaimus.
Tervitused sulle ja Karolinale.
Ilmar.
Estonians never understand "fake keep smiling"
In Poland, if you are a foreigner, with a good group (there may be different work environments, so I can's speak for all), people will engage with conversation with you spontaneously, because they are curious. So if you won't be withdrawn yourself (if you are, you will be rather left alone, unless you have some persistent extroverts in your work team), it's relatively easy to meet and befriend people, at least on some basic level (I'm not talking about best friends, that's different). So in that regard, we are very different to Estonians.
Is polish culture influenced by German work culture as well?
@@MananAnwar I can't be sure, because I have no direct experiences with German work culture, but from what I heard, it's fairly similar. However, because there are not so many foreigners in Poland, we are more curious on average, and we are more direct. I think it all may vary from the persons in the group. If you have some crazy extroverts that are eager to break social norms just for fun, the work atmosphere becomes very friendly, loose, natural and informal. I experienced it, but I suspect, this isn't unfortunately a norm.
It is true, that Poland with time became more westernized. In a way, we have still many Slavic culture traits, but with strong western influences (which is visible in bigger cities, bigger companies and when you work with younger people or for younger people). Basically, Poles were for years traveling abroad for work to Germany, Austria, UK and brought ideas, work values and similar approaches to Poland. This is why Ukrainians or Belarusians feel in Poland at home - it's not so foreign as Western countries, and they can understand the culture, but on the other hand, all is very strongly Westernized and developed with the difference that Poland is more homogenous (compared to Germany or France). People are more polite in social situations than in eastern Slavic countries, more positive, less judgmental, more carefree, but for a US citizen, we are still rigid, not smiley, rude people ;). So all depends on what perspective you are looking from.
From your videos, Poles and Estonians share many cultural traits, but there are some strong differences: we are easier to talk to and more extrovert on average. Poles are religious (at least based on stats and numbers of people in churches, but many of them just goes because of habit, I''m not religious myself), and not so comfortable being naked (so unlike Estonians or Germans). There is strong food culture in Poland. Because of the homogeneity, Poles tend to be xenophobic on average, but we are also curious and open, especially younger people. So there will be ones that will give harder times to foreigners and those who will be friendly and ask a lot of questions, trying to get to know them, again out of sheer curiosity. Living in one of the bigger cities in Poland is definitely easier than on the countryside, as people are more accustomed to various foreigners. In a village, you would get a lot of grimm stares from old people and curious ones from children... In bigger cities, nobody would look twice thou.
It would have been great to have Move My Talent help us out as we moved entirely on our own. It was hard. They helped when we moved jobs but the initial relocation was difficult
Yes same here.
This video couldn't have come at a more better time. I am about to head over to Estonia for my studies and mannn...this is the worst I've felt in a long time. I'm having cold feet, idk if I should be doing this. And coupled with the fact that this is my first international travel makes it even worse 😢
Don't worry. Whenever things are difficult in short-term, they are easier in long term. And besides that you will meet lovely people who are coming on the same journey with you.
If you don’t mind answering, what are you going to study?
Hi Benjen, same here. I totally understand, but don't worry, you are not alone! Newcomers like us will help each other, and we'll learn the Estonian language to make new friends after landing. It will be much better than what we expected, trust me! 🙌
@@martinkoitmae6655 I'm going there to study for my master's degree in Interaction Design
@@YZhou-mq1bw thanks for your kind words mate, it's much easier knowing am not alone. See you soon in Tallinn, hopefully 🙏🏼♥️
Want to discuss relocating in Estonia, Please share contact
Hello, you can email me at manan(at)manan.ee
@@MananAnwar hi can you help me with a job in Estonia am from Barbados
Thank you. Interesting as always.
Balts should've develop closer ties after usssr collapse. I grew up not far from latvian border, yet I almost never met latvian person or know much of anything about my neighbour balts.
True.
I agree with you.
I'm Latvian, and have been to Valga area and Tallinn. To learn what Estonians are like first hand and see their environment.
Come to Latvia!
We in Latvia talk about Estonia a lot. We always compare ourselves to you and how everything is better in Estonia (apart from Narva aspect, lol).
We read your literature, learn your music bands, have your independence and Soviet times deportation dates mentioned in our news etc.
We pay attention to Estonia and Lithuania. Typical middle child complex, lol
Also, you might met more Latvians than you think. Many Latvians near EE border know Estonian language fairly well, and often go over border to Estonian shops etc.
Hey Manan,
Sir please visit Pakistan and conduct seminar for study and work in Estonia Lithuania and Latvia at various universities and colleges of Karachi Lahore and Islamabad.
Some day.
We had a huge scandal in Latvia last year where Indian and Pakistani students were involved. Hundreds of people applied for students visa, matriculated the state university, but didn't show up for any lecture during the academic year. They were found working as take-away couriers in Riga, illegally opening businesses there or moving to Germany. Student visa prohibits from working, and they know that. They just never care for rules or law.
Can you suggest a way to teach them rules the way they would respect them?
Manan, how's it going with dating with Estonian women? Are they interested to move in the USA 🇺🇸? What about dating agencies? Do you know any valid One to recommend?
Wth! This is inappropriate, man
Inappropriate
@@tantuce what's inappropriate Manan?
@@matthewkeykhosravi1294 I'm not Manan
If an Estonian woman wants to move to the USA (or anywhere), she will do it by herself. We're pretty resourceful. Estonia is not the "passport bro paradise" that you're thinking of...
Do you speak estonian?
Jep