I've Bought A Bargain Used Electric Hot Hatch!
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After driving many EV’s from Tesla’s to, ID.3, ID.4, MG4, Kona, e-Niro, Ioniq, Mach-e, Leaf, Ariya etc I still think the BMW i3 is still one of the most quirky, fun and stylish EV’s I’ve ever driven. I had one for 4 days and still have a massive itch to buy one. I’ve actually been looking at used i3’s on the current market and love them in the red and black paint option. Certainly a lot of car for the money. Perfect now we no longer needs prams and we already have a larger EV for holiday away etc.
Buy one
It's butt ugly. The design team obviously wore dark glasses at work.
We have an i3 and it’s absolutely brilliant. We use it as city car. It is actually roomier than it looks. Load space is adequate, particularly with rear seats down.
Hi EVM, greetings from Oxford. Wow, having seen your previous review of the i3, I was slightly surprised to see this video from you. I bought a new i3 in 2019, I still have it, I still love it! As a daily commuter it is just superb. I think you will like it. It doesn’t have the range or charging speed of a Tesla, but it’s a super car that will never rust and has reliability and build quality in spades. Welcome to the club!
Great choice - I like these too. It's a shame they didn't keep making them.
Great choice I also have a Tesla 3 and we bought an i3 last week for my Wife also an I3S also a 70 plate , Its fantastic ....you will find that the apple car play only takes up 60 percent of the screen so I had this coded to fill the screen (about 50 quid) no rear camera on ours so having one fitted that comminicates with I drive and maintaines all BMW parking lines etc .The cupholder in the armrest area will fit in front of the front cupholder in one of the three slots also .The front boot will let in water so we have bought a watertight Ikea box with lid that fits perfecly ( Salma 22 litre) . On a run into Yorkshire last week we achieved 4,5 miles PKWH but have averaged around 3.4 this week on general pottering about .
I like the reverse rear doors. Makes it much easier for me to put a folded compact wheelchair back there. Tighter parking spots don’t have to get around the doors as opening is on the same place.
My first EV was an i3. Loved it. Best Traffic Light GP ever. Best tip car ever - amazing how much you can get in with the seats down. Tiny turning circle. I would have an i3S one day.
just bought a zoe for 3500 battery owned in black 64 plate- love it - 4th zoe!!
4:30 "Thought you'd skipped it, didn't ya?"
↑ Ooh, you sly old sausage!
The heated seats are standard as is the cruise control. You don’t have adaptive cruise control that was an extra. 4 miles kWh 190 miles in summer. 1,300 kg an id3 is 500Kg heavier. You will absolutely love it. Oh the sunroof and black wheels were also extra.
Er.....I think he told us all this .....!?!?
@andymccabe6712 True. Apart from the heated seats which he asked about.
Excellent choice. We still have our i3 - now over 6 years old and have no intention of getting rid of it. We love it.
Owned the original i3 Rex (2017) for 4 years and 60,000 miles. It remains one of the best cars I have owned. Light, agile, RWD with brilliant steering feel due to those narrow wheels so you felt connected to it. Great visibility and ride height, Brilliant turning circle. BMW have lost their way! Did my end of ownership review on my YT channel and it gets the most views and comments although now obsolete.
Still own an Ariel Atom for my true kicks, but wife & I both hot hatch lovers. Her e-208 is also a fun drive. Not as punchy as the i3S though!
I've got a standard i3 and absolutely love it. It's a brilliant car and I plan to keep it for a long time - unless I change it for an "S" of course!
I prefer the standard interior over the leather which puddles as soon as you look at it and quickly looks old! Cruise and heated seats were standard.
It's not too big and easy to use around town / shops etc but comfortable enough for longer trips. Range is easily 180 miles in the summer, which is very good for what it's designed to do. The 50kW DC is slow by today's standards but it will stay close to 50 at high battery percentages so it's still very usable for longer trips
It's quick - the i3 does not have Sport so Comfort is the full fat setting - strange! I tone it down to Eco to soften the throttle response, unless I'm involved in a traffic light GP of course! lol
The S is definitely a hot hatch !
I was thing you were going to say VW e-Golf! I drive one, incredible hot hatch, exactly the same as a MK.7 with an electric motor. If you've not tried one I would highly recommend it.
It's a cracking little hot hatch back cheers mate
Congrats on the new car 😊
My wife got an i3 new 7 years ago. She still loves it, it’s been totally reliable and she’ll probably keep it for ever. We can get nearly 6 miles/kWh out of it in warm weather.
Very nice, I first thought it was the MG4 Xpower (But I kind of did not since you said the prices has dropped), but the i3 and i3s are great!
I’ve had two i3S’s. For the last 4 years. First one a rare 33kWh Rex model and second one is the run out unique forever special edition I bought new and fully specced in 2022 in Aventurine red. I love them! The boot may be smallish on seats up ( bigger than the mini though by quite a lot ) but when the seats are down it becomes a little van with a completely flat load area and no lip which can fit very surprising things in. In my case a 140cm high freezer … and I still managed to fit my dad in the front passenger seat … it’s like a tardis- and with proper ties down anchor points too. 😅😂 even after 4 year and with so many newer cars on the market swapping the i3S for something else would be a wrench as it’s so unique and just brilliant in its own way, hence .. I’m not and at the end of this year when my PCP term comes to the end I’m fully intending to pay the balloon 🎈 😊❤
Always loved the i3, still drool over them.
Had a 2019 I3s as a company car and absolutely loved it. Got it with my head and it left with my heart. As a petrolhead I really wasn’t keen at the thought but it was such a saving and when it had to go back it had got under my skin. I have a M3LR now which I love but it’s not got that go kart appeal of the I3s. I think the I3s will be a classic one day, so innovative.
Nice pick - totally agree with you on the hot hatch-ness of the i3s!
On another matter - how do you sell them later - private or through a dealership ... ?
@18:30 I bet your wife will make the i3s her favorite car. My wife was getting very close to signing a new Range Rover, when we dropped by BMW and tried out the i3 - and was immediately sold on that one. The JLR sales person never understood how he lost that sale!
With something that quick, it's a good job that ALLIEDNIPPON makes EV+ brake pads for it.
Nice. I just bought my 2nd i3. Just a normal one. I paid a bit more but mine has a lot less miles. I did want an S tho.
CarPlay was standard from 2020. My reg is nearly the same!
Absolutely agree in everything you say. We have an i3S as our second car to my M3 SR+… too much of a coincidence 😮 . I love driving in 👏SPORT mode.. although Mrs always drives in EcoMode. I like to remind it of its pedigree. As I did with her CooperS… another coincidence! It’s a great drive and so much fun.
Great purchase I think I’d get a 66 plate range ex though but it’ll be interesting to see what your range is. Good that it’s got car play too and I don’t think interior needs needs the faux leather either ! Hope you enjoy it. PS get the kit installed
Keep it. It's such a unique car that surely will become a classic.
Great purchase and good price. Downside is that it looks like you got one with the small central screen that they fitted when they were short of chips a couple of years ago. I have a 2019 i3 that I purchased new - and got the government grant available at the time - and it has been a great car. Nearly five years old and never missed a beat with only regular service and MOT's. Needed a new set of tyres at four years and 20k miles but it does encourage a heavy right foot! Just a pity they stopped making them because the design looks a fresh as when it was launched in 2013. Problem is what do you replace it with which is as much fun - and for me it has to have stalks, knobs and beepers.
Great vid. I have just bought a 70 plate Mini EV for all the same reasons. I’m in Leeds. Fancy a drag race?!
Always liked the whole quirkiness 👍🤩
Great choice of car and worth every penny.
As you know I had one also 70 reg. on a three year lease. Loved every mile I drove it❤
Yes the real world 0-60 is 6.4 seconds.
Not much can beat any i3 to 40 MPH
100% agree purchased for the same reason, great fun car.
I love those i3s ❤
Well done 👍
Definitely agree with a hot hatch electric car have the same fluid black i3s Rex on a 18 plate was blown away with the handling
Borrowed an i3S a few years ago, and loved it. Now own a Tesla M3 LR, which is also a great car and I need for towing. If I didn't need the towing capability then an i3/i3S would be my choice. For towns and cities and country roads in our region it makes sense and lots of fun. Is future tyre availability an issue? When our 2012 Leaf is done (still getting 60 miles range), we'll be looking at i3s.
I have a standard i3 but with the sports wheel options. Two things I would be interested in. Any other tyre options other than that standard Bridgestone's? Seems its either on the front or the rear they are the only options. Also I also do not have the HK sounds system. Do upgraded speakers make a difference? Have fun with it, love mine!
Very nice, I have fitted the Wokeby boot extension which gives you loads more space and the charging flaps which are handy.
Done that same. With some other parts like the boot sill protector. Carbon look. Best Dave
Oooh nice! I’ve been in two minds whether to get one, do you use it much?
The boot extender I use all the time, not cheap but very useful@@iaintunmore2609
It ain’t cheap!
All my cables are in the froot at present.
@@ElectricVehicleManI got a cool bag on Amazon that fits the froot perfectly, it keeps the cables all clean and dry, an NZ home pro 42litre XXL, currently £16.79
yes... I loved my I3s, had to move on to the EV6 due to company car. I had the I3 for 3 years and loved it.
When it first came out I thought it was ugly but strange after a few years I became to love the looks and quirky bits of it , I like yours with the full size middle screen, I found the smaller screens looked odd with its huge borders and tiny screen in the middle. This is the perfect car for many people using locally etc perfect 2nd car esp for those tipping toes into ev cars but still want a petrol/diesel car
Waiting for the weather to get better...
Wonderful hot hatch. My fav BMW because BMW drivers didn't buy it, it bought other EV buyers new to the brand who'd never normally look at a BMW. Amazing engineering.
Not too keen on the triangle of doom in supermarket parking with the way the seat belt is attached but I could live with it. Older ones with the 3g TCU would wind me up though if I couldn't remote control my car from the app.
Fantastic choice ❤
Yep it does,very nice,I’ve been looking at a standard,just look good.the s is another level.
I love the saying, "opinions are like arseholes, everybody has one".
I love my I3s, First EV hot hatch. Its a go-cart on the road.
I got a 2013 i3 ❤ love mine, never parting with it.
Love to have one of these one day - think there will be another drop in the next year or so as the next gen of evs come to market
My wife has an i3 REX and be both loves it. She gets 4.6m/kWh all year. All in all a great car.
You’ll enjoy it 👍
Thanks for the video. Given how rarely your Tesla applies the brakes, they are not going to sell a lot of those pads! Interesting car pick. Won't the charging away from home not be a bit slow? Don't bother with that body kit - keep it stock. Have fun!
I've got a feeling that it may be one of the safest small EVs around too, thanks to the CF. If you look at the IIHS small offset test, it ploughs straight on, like a Model Y would. Though the light weight is obviously going to be a problem if it hits something large. Still, stick to sheep, cats etc. and you're golden!
I saw an id3 in red with a black roof the other day. Thought it looked really good.
Damn you because now I'm looking at Autotrader
Nice choice. Advanced light weight EV
I hated the i3 when it came out, but now concede it's really cool. Apparently the carbon fibre makes it difficult/ expensive to repair - is it expensive to insure? Looking forward to it being in future content.
what are the chances now or in the future you would be able to put a newer technology lighter weight battery into it? (same or better Ah capacity)
Not an LKA bing or Driver Attention bong to be heard!!
I have a Zoe and when I look to change an I3s or a Mini electric is on the list.
The S looks great. Fantastic, a massively underrated car. I agree with everything you said about this brilliant, quirky vehicle.In my opinion, new models now are still behind on the ideas that went into its design. Im sure you'll have loads of fun and enjoyment owning it. (Isn't it the electric car that Harry would have liked?I'm sure he mentioned it in a previous video)
Are you serious about the go faster body kit, though? It's a bit chavy for a Yorkshire man, although you won't look out of place when you come down to Newcastle, Staffs in it, among the farting Corsas and hydrafoiled civics, if you fit it 😁🤣🤣
Andy, please,when you do the detailing video, can you let us know which products you're using. Im keen to detail my i3.but I'm apprehensive in case there's a chemical reaction due to the plastic and carbon panels.
Another great video. Thanks .
I guessed it would be ❤ future classic.
The i3S was the first non-Tesla EV that got me interested in driving electric (many years ago, I’m glad there’s a lot more choice now). 100% agree with you the design is amazing and still looks contemporary despite how old it is. The grills on other BMW electric are just too gross! Particularly the i7 🤢. Unfortunately for us when we were looking to replace my wife’s car the only i3 in budget at the time where really grotty REX’s and I refuse to buy them. We also sadly couldn’t quite justify a second EV. Regretfully an i3 may never be on the shortlist now, but I must say it looks like you’ve got a good one! I have a soft spot for Mii’s so would struggle to chose which to keep - i3S might just take the spot 😆
I love the excitement at finding 50p at 11:30. 😂😂
Love it, I've got the 94ah you are right it's only the handling letting it down, and this is the car I'd go for if I bothered to change.. but then I do have the Harmon Kardon sound system🤫
Me too, with Apple Music lossless the sound is superb.
I’ll get some AirPods Pro!
I have never driven an i3, but it would be on the list to try if I wanted to trade our Zoe.
Can't wait to wear out the brake pads so I can get those EV+ brake pads.... Any decade now I guess. ;)
Do think the i3 has something, it defo is a second car (doesn't tick all the boxes for me as a main car) given some of it's drawbacks but for not a main car, and for that price, I'd have one in a heartbeat! test drove one years ago, and it was the i3S and loved it, reminds me of a go kart! you've got me thinking now as at that price I could see one on the drive ;)
Had an i3s for about a year after running the standard car for 3 years, I felt the ride was just too firm. Still a very nice car but I would suggest trying the standard version as well.
I do love the i3 but people still want 30 grand for old 60ah ones here in Australia.
I have an i3 and had one for 5 years.. I’m in the market for the i3s but I have to have the Rex version. I love these cars.
I was actually surprised when I saw it was the i3S, as I was expecting a Cupra Born, having seen so many V1 spec examples in the low 20's. I would have to agree with you that the S is a hot hatch, given the performance and chuckability of the thing. Would I buy one? I don't know. I like the unique looks, my wife doesn't. I like the suicide doors, they were executed better than the newer Mazda MX-30. But having discussed a 2nd EV for our family, it looks like we'll be going for another BMW hot hatch, the Mini Electric. Not as unique, but definitely a fun to drive EV.
Love your videos, hope you'll be at Fully Charged Live/Everything Electric in Harrogate in May, it would be nice to meet up and chew the fat.
I too own a Tesla, and the i3 intrigues for the same reasons.
The design, the narrowness for city use, and that carbon fibre chasis, wish you had shown the boot with the back seats down.
I remember hearing some reliability issues with these in the early days, usually with the electric drivetrain. Hopefully these were resolved.
I do like the design and the uniqueness of the i3.
I love our i3. As a family car it is extremely compromised. The boot is too small. The suicide doors are annoying in car parks and it’s only a 4 seater. Yet the Ford Focus stays parked and we all pile in the i3. When pushed it is skittish though (I always wondered how the i3s drove) and I wish I got the version with the bigger battery and without the range extender. But we’ve had it for close to 5 years and will probably never sell it.
I love the I3 and even owned one for a brief time. Seeing as you can get a Model 3 SR+ for about the same price now which is more efficient (somehow) and even faster it'd be difficult to not to choose that instead. Then you have the slow charging speed and short range. They have to depreciate a lot more before I'd be able to justify another. Great cars though, especially in the city.
I seriously looked at an i3 way in 2014 when they were first launched. Had 2 test drives, but it was early days in the EV journey and I didn’t get one ! Probably regret that decision now. Only just migrated to a self charging hybrid! The way the car market is at the moment there are a lot of people losing a lot of money amongst a glut of used EV’s which is an upside for a potential buyer at the moment 👍😎
Think I own your ideal i3S….2021 black AC Schnitzer body kit including wheel spacers, suspension and interior foot pedals. Every i3S extra from factory including Harman Kardon, leather, heat pump, sunroof, black wheels, etc etc. car was £45,675 new and was a bmw demonstrator prior to my ownership. Car is superb…our 3rd i3. Only has less than 5.5k on clock. Only downside is as expected….Ride is harsh…but handling is superb. In July 2022 vehicle indicated 200 mile range….took a picture as I’d never seen this before! Enjoy your bargain i3S
I knew exactly what car you were talking about by the video title (I have one myself) 😂
i have one 2015 60ah .........and runs great!!!
the best car!!!
We have a MY LR and a 2020 i3s similar to yours but white, ours no sunroof but has HK. Still prefer driving the i3s to the MY because it's much more fun, it's so light and chuckable, super easy to live with in town (MY bit of a barge in that respect). Of course for longer journeys the MY wins hands down due to range and feels more planted on motorway (i3s is better than i3 in that respect but can still be fatiguing in bad conditions on longer journeys). They're both great cars, each has it's own strengths.
I'll be honest, I didn't know the i3S was a thing! It looks to be a cool variant of the i3, definitely very cool!
Sensible choice :-) I have an i3 and they are just the best EV. Smaller battery and great range. No dints either :-)
I paid £24K for my 2019 2.5 years ago with 18K on the clock during the used car price hike due to the past few years madness, however its got the Loft Interior. That said even with the price drops I am still more than happy as its going to be a classic and keeps me smiling.
The charging speed is excellent due to the efficient battery and weight meaning mostly it takes less than 30mins to top up from just below half.
I get a reliable 160 miles under almost all conditions. In summer it well exceeds this and into the 180+
But for me who travels less than 100 miles a week ! Its perfect and also for the longer runs too as the EV charger networks expand. Also we can use Tesla chargers for a cheaper more reliable charge occasionally. Anyway a smart choice.
If I wasn't renting an old apartment. I'd love a i3s. Finding charging stations in Vancouver BC is tough.
Heated seats standard on all models
If it has been specced with adaptive cruise and Apple Carplay I'd love to compare one with my Honda e.
I like my i3, old and limited range as it is. I have considering moving up to the i3s.
I think the cost of building a CF tub might be the main reason BMW ditched the idea.
As for your brake pads surely the most important improvement for EV brake pads would be corrosion resistance? From what I've heard they normally rot away before they wear out.
That’s discs.
@@ElectricVehicleMandisks corrode too but I had rear pads fail on a car because of corrosion. They still had plenty of thickness. I nearly hit the car in front as the pedal went to the floor. 😮
Went from a mini cooper s to my i3s and the handling doesn't even come close to the mini. Still absolutely love it though. Front suspension top mounts fail. So keep an eye on that.
The i3s with a little bit bigger and more modern battery (so more range and faster charging for the same weight) would be pretty much perfect
Definately in my fantasy garage, though range isn't quite there to be the only car. It would be the one I'd use 99% of the time :-)
If it suits 99% of your use, why not just rent a car for the 1%? That’s what I’ve done. My i3 is perfect for the 99%, and saves me a fortune over my old diesel golf, which more than pays for hiring a nice car for holiday
As subtle as a brick through the window !
"Hello to everyone who skipped the ad...".
Well played!
P.s. I was thinking it would be a Cupra.
You need to test drive the new E-Lotus for a fast hatch!
Was literally shouting this had better be an i3s!! 😂
I'd have one but we're a single car family and the range is low. Watch out for the AC dying and taking out the battery cooling and drive battery at the same time!
You should put the i8 wheels on it.
Ps my wife absolutely loves the i3 and she doesn’t care about cars at all…
Yes, the i3S is surely the only EV that come to mind that gets closest to a Hot Hatch.
When you reviewed the MX30 you showed how the rear door could potentially slam against the front door if it was closed first. Presumably that's still an issue with the i3 as well? As a father of 3 and 7 year olds that would become a potential deal breaker!
It can happen but they can’t get out without you opening your door first. So unless you close your door when theres is still open, it can’t happen without you making the mistake so to speak.
Why not a Mini SE? Similar specs and probably more fun plus quicker?
It looks like a Mini One. Needs to be aggressive.
Plus owned a Mini for 7 years before this.
As soon as I saw one of these, I fell in love, as we will only ever own one car, it isn't really practical for me to own, maybe when they are at the sub £4k price, I will be able to persuade my wife that we could have two cars, this one for the weekends
Don't think you will ever see an i3 sub 4K they will become rare and wanted. I would say 10K is the lowest they will go.
@@michaeldawson6309 sadly, I think you are right.
@@michaeldawson6309unfortunately as an owner, the older ones have already dropped well below £10k. There is currently 75 for sale less than £10k on auto trader, 12 less than £8k
How does it compare to the Mini-Electric? Wouldn't that have been the logical choice?