It shows, when companies really do want to build something quick that has a high quality, they absolutely can. Unfortunately we are living in the world, where most companies don't really care about speed or quality.
thats too fast we here in the philippines will atleast built it in approximately 6-7 years..we first count our blessings in the pocket...jejeje sad but happening
Here in Karachi (Pakistan), authorities would let the bridge fall on the vehicles, killing a few people. There would be a hue and cry for a few days and afterwards, all would be forgotten.
All i can say, is that was an impressive feat. I wish more companies and gov agencies would do more planning and great logistical execution as this project had.
My state (Hawaii) started construction on a 20 mile long fixed-rail system in 2012, the construction is expected to be finished in 2025 with a cost of 10 billion dollars.
PennDot already does that, so don't get deceived by this video. They like to drag things out on purpose. I guess the whole purpose of this video from PennDot is to make them look good in the public eye. It takes them centuries to fill in pot holes on busy roads.
Took about 10 years to get a bridge replacement over here approved, and 5 months to build it. It wasn't precast though. They did a really nice job on the bridge but the paving leading up to it is pretty shotty, very bumpy and a deep transition from the existing road like a speed bump. I think they rushed the paving and didn't get a proper road base down before paving.
I live in eastern-central europe, and have never been to Pennsylvania (nor in the USA, in general). I have no idea why this got recommended to me, or why did I watch it, but I have no regrets!
This shows that major construction CAN be done extremely fast, either because of an emergency, or because of too much inconvenience for drivers or residents. But in this case, the prefab sections all had to be made beforehand, and they had to be of a size and shape that could be transported and then put in place.
night shifts would costs up to double hourly rates. (triple on public holidays). so you would most likely paying everyone on the site $1/minute or more.... that's a lot money just on the labour... plus all the equipments hiring and anyone that has to working associates to the job around the clock would be at least double price as well
In Texas, it would have been 10 years of increasing vehicle weight restrictions on the old bridge until only bicycles could cross it. In the 11th year, an impending failure noticed by an inspector would then result in the bridge being closed for 6 months while a new design was drawn and approved. The remainder of the 11th year would be consumed with public hearings and contractor selection. In the 12th year, a few days here and there of sporadic work would occur, spaced by weeks of no work being accomplished. Sometime around the 13th year it would be announced the new bridge was built, but it would be closed until... ....later in the 13th year when the sign and striping crews get to it. Then, for reasons completely unknown, a new lower speed limit will be imposed. Bridge finished.
popular routes need to be done sooner, theyre a priority, might lose business with surrounding companies, unhappy people, less taxes being flown in. Much rather have it be 3 days long instead of 2 months. Priorities are in check
I am just guessing here but usually it is money. Most governments put jobs out to bid and usually the lowest price wins. Which means people working regular 40 hr work weeks because overtime is more expensive. But in cases where time is critical and they are willing to pay for not only the overtime but the shear number of people and equipment needed at one time than they can accomplish amazing things. I saw one video from China where they worked on some raised highway project with over 200 excavators working in a line to demolish the structure at the same time. Here is the link: th-cam.com/video/KrPgXYrNGG4/w-d-xo.html
it depends on the technique used to dismantle and to do the reconstruction of the bridge sometimes just where it is it turn into a head ache ... if the only access to the job site is going threw residential streets yeah it will take longer sometime it is getting the oversized permits can be tricky ...
The video is at 30fps according to TH-cam, and it's 6:39 long, and about 13 seconds of that isn't timelapse video. That's about 386 seconds, or 11,580 frames (based on 30fps). There's roughly 441,000 seconds of real time elapsed in the video (based on the timestamps at the bottom), which means that A frame would have been captured roughly once every 38 seconds.
@@brosk1s883 yt does 24 30 60 not sure about 50 or fractionals like 23.97 59.97? but to answer the question look at the clock on the bottom... appears to be a frame every 30 seconds. slow playback down to 0.25 and you can watch the minutes ticking off faster then seconds and the seconds flip flopping from 00 to 30 with no other values.
Nice. Takes several years to do something like that here in Australia. Have watched a few bridges being built. Usually have about a dozen tradies on the job. 4 working and 8 watching.
I'm here wondering why there only a fence on one side I guess everyone o jumps on the left side of the bridge depending witch way your going down the road
Probably something about the code. The side without a fence doesn't have a pavement, so probably the fence is more about looking safe and not about the safety.
In Poland most of the foot bridges and pavements don't have fences, only ladder-like railings. They install them only above train, tram or trolleybus cables.
to all those commenting about "ugh where I live this kind of thing takes forever" yeah this is a major road with no reasonable detour, so they spend a lot and pay a lot of people for a fast replacement method. they do things slowly where they can, cause it's cheaper.
People wonder how God made the world in six days. It turns out, it was a time lapse. Seriously incredible to see so much accomplished in a two or three days. It's amazing what people can accomplish when they come together and are motivated by the knowledge that something is necessary and possible!
Did the surrounding neighborhood which appears to have normal households not complain of the noise from the work being done at night? Especially the jackhammering at 11 PM (0:19 in the video)?
As a Swede, this is quite remarkable. They replaced a bridge over a river on a major highway, about the same size as this. 20 km detour for 3 weeks. Then they did a shoddy job paving it, so they had to close it for a couple more days a month later to repave it. Admittedly working above a river is a bit more demanding, but come on...
У нас в городе плановый ремонт, просто подмазать, подлить асфальт положить, на путепроводе все лето делали и потом еще 2 года ставили отбойники, перекладывали асфальт и наносили разметку.
It took 3 1/2 years for a local contractor to finish a 2 year planned bridge replacement, these guys in the video made it obvious that they're the real deal.
I grew up in this area. Still have family living right up the street from here. East Pittsburgh. Used to be a huge Westinghouse plant there. Now, there's nothing there but houses, a Port Authority bus depot and a few small businesses. I had a cool a** childhood in E.P. though!
It DID take a month, look at the time stamps on the video. Started 5/20, ended 6/19. 57 hours over a month. JFC....Apparently thats fast work for the PDT.
Actually, there was work done over two separate weekends. That's why there is such a difference in the timestamps. The bridge was open to traffic between those two timeframes.
Meanwhile in Brazil we are still waiting for a monorail in São Paulo, that was promised for the 2014 world cup. The construction started in 2013, and it's nowhere near finished. hu3
Why is this trending now when it happened in 2016? And in Pennsylvania, what a surprise. PennDot, you need to really publicize these speedy projects. Good job.
who me there is this place in Bangalore where the dug up the road In 2019 January and now its July 2020 so basically 1 year and 6 months That they have still not fixed the god dam road.
When speeded up like that it almost looks like more than one out of three guys is actually doing something besides standing around and watching. That just isn't done!
At least years to have a poor replacement in Brazil, costing ten times the fair value. Do not complain, because you don’t really know what an incompetent job mean. 57 hours? Fantastic! An outstanding achievment.
I agree, I wish most if not all major projects had some sore of time-lapse going, I love watching them. Check out some of the stuff that Network Rail did in England/Australia - th-cam.com/users/results?search_query=network+rail+time+lapse
In my country, this would take at least 3 years to finish, and even then it wouldn't be at 100% it would probably take 1 election to make it to 100% so that politicians can say "Look we did it in record time!"
For all those who say that it only took them 5 to 6 days to repair that, let me tell you that they are wrong, it took 28 to 29 calendar days, take a good look at the start and end date of the video..... Para todos aquellos que dicen que solo les tomó de 5 a 6 días reparar eso, déjenme decirles que están equivocados, tomó de 28 a 29 días calendario, miren bien la fecha de inicio y finalización del video.
Thank you great video. Bridge is nicely done, which way is the great place to visit, till then keep smiling with lol politely & safely keep cross the bridge
I live in a town where they've been doing something similar for like 3 years.
It shows, when companies really do want to build something quick that has a high quality, they absolutely can. Unfortunately we are living in the world, where most companies don't really care about speed or quality.
@@theoneandonly1802 It still took them a month to build
Here in philippines it will take several years to finish, and only takes months then damaged😂😂😂
thats too fast we here in the philippines will atleast built it in approximately 6-7 years..we first count our blessings in the pocket...jejeje sad but happening
@@kenchie2518 cuz philippines dont have any machine that can build like that. they were all made in china and all d time there a problem with machine.
Here in the Philippines it would us take a year to build that mini bridge.
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Same In India 😂😂
Here in Karachi (Pakistan), authorities would let the bridge fall on the vehicles, killing a few people. There would be a hue and cry for a few days and afterwards, all would be forgotten.
Germany 10 years
Here in Italy it wouldn't be finished at all
Lower it to 11'8" so we can get more can openers.
Yeah that wont fly.
It was funny that you said that.
@@seanhamilton4169 No. Its good if the trucks hit it cause then they can make youtube videos.
@@seanhamilton4169 But its funny when they do it.
@@seanhamilton4169 No. It would be funny if the trucks hit it.
Whoever is in charge of infrastructure in this area is definitely competent and not corrupt, truly amazing.
In Indiana this would have been first planned for around late 1930s, and finally gotten done last year.
Its flat there and theres no creeks.
JUST the 1930s? not farther?
Watch here
only to be tore up next year to be "redone" which takes 35 years.
Don, In the UK that’s quick. !
All i can say, is that was an impressive feat. I wish more companies and gov agencies would do more planning and great logistical execution as this project had.
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youtube at 5 am: wanna watch a bridge be replaced?
me: HELL YEAH\
fr tho
Same
Restoration work for the collapse accident in Japan
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аналогично!
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it's way more complicated than what I did in Cities: Skylines.
ikr , to think its not that easy :D
same
The government and their leeching contractors would drag this across a few seasons here.
Just seasons hahaha here it takes decades 😂😂
My state (Hawaii) started construction on a 20 mile long fixed-rail system in 2012, the construction is expected to be finished in 2025 with a cost of 10 billion dollars.
PennDot already does that, so don't get deceived by this video. They like to drag things out on purpose. I guess the whole purpose of this video from PennDot is to make them look good in the public eye. It takes them centuries to fill in pot holes on busy roads.
Took about 10 years to get a bridge replacement over here approved, and 5 months to build it. It wasn't precast though. They did a really nice job on the bridge but the paving leading up to it is pretty shotty, very bumpy and a deep transition from the existing road like a speed bump. I think they rushed the paving and didn't get a proper road base down before paving.
@@Icureditwithmybrain Democrat state. Are you surprised?
Now that's some proper planning and coordination of effort.
Right bro
I'm from pa.and that's gotta be the fastest Penn dot has ever worked on anything,let alone a bridge replacement...call Guinness world records.
Wasn't just Penn Dot
If it was actually PennDot doing the work, there would have been one guy working and 15 guys standing around leaning on shovels.
In PA... for work to get done this fast? Either a palm was greased or a political favor was owed... or both.
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What’s big and yellow and sleeps 6 ? A PennDot truck
I live in eastern-central europe, and have never been to Pennsylvania (nor in the USA, in general). I have no idea why this got recommended to me, or why did I watch it, but I have no regrets!
I'm from the city where this bridge was replaced and I don't know why I watched it either, also no regrets. :-)
This shows that major construction CAN be done extremely fast, either because of an emergency, or because of too much inconvenience for drivers or residents. But in this case, the prefab sections all had to be made beforehand, and they had to be of a size and shape that could be transported and then put in place.
night shifts would costs up to double hourly rates. (triple on public holidays). so you would most likely paying everyone on the site $1/minute or more.... that's a lot money just on the labour... plus all the equipments hiring and
anyone that has to working associates to the job around the clock would be at least double price as well
@@1393wsc better then 2 years of detours, and possible local supply chain reductions.
Well done, may that bridge last a good long time.
nice video bro
Nice comment bro
@@jet4432 nice pfp bro
@@mikihisakaribe2319 nice reply bro
Nice sarcastic compliment bro
Ah yes my homie Pennsylvania Department of Transportation
damn 6 minutes to build a bridge, that's like a world record
it took another 2 years to have the Bridge Closed sign taken down.
It's fast forwarded timelapse
It actually took afew days but this video has been sped up. I don’t think it took 6 minutes.
@@hsvr How do you “speed up time”? The video speaks for itself it clearly only took 6 minutes, props to the construction team
@@max-3158 i dont think so
In Texas, it would have been 10 years of increasing vehicle weight restrictions on the old bridge until only bicycles could cross it.
In the 11th year, an impending failure noticed by an inspector would then result in the bridge being closed for 6 months while a new design was drawn and approved.
The remainder of the 11th year would be consumed with public hearings and contractor selection.
In the 12th year, a few days here and there of sporadic work would occur, spaced by weeks of no work being accomplished.
Sometime around the 13th year it would be announced the new bridge was built, but it would be closed until...
....later in the 13th year when the sign and striping crews get to it.
Then, for reasons completely unknown, a new lower speed limit will be imposed.
Bridge finished.
By the time they upgraded bridge is built the weight of the average Texan increased and again relegated the traffic to bicycles……
This is really something to be proud of. WOW! It seems like a year to do this around here. Maybe our guys should watch this and learn something.
In India this would have taken exactly 4 years 10 months and would been opened during elections
hahaha india and pakistan
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😅 😅 True 💯.
In Russia we wait it sinse 1995 year.
also in bangladesh
Such perfection, such dedication, and such satisfaction to watch this! Amazed!
If PennDOT is capable of this, then why in the hell did it take a YEAR to do the shorter, narrower, lower bridge over a little stream on Byberry?
popular routes need to be done sooner, theyre a priority, might lose business with surrounding companies, unhappy people, less taxes being flown in. Much rather have it be 3 days long instead of 2 months. Priorities are in check
I am just guessing here but usually it is money. Most governments put jobs out to bid and usually the lowest price wins. Which means people working regular 40 hr work weeks because overtime is more expensive. But in cases where time is critical and they are willing to pay for not only the overtime but the shear number of people and equipment needed at one time than they can accomplish amazing things. I saw one video from China where they worked on some raised highway project with over 200 excavators working in a line to demolish the structure at the same time. Here is the link: th-cam.com/video/KrPgXYrNGG4/w-d-xo.html
state Senator takes this road to work.
Well as a wise man once said work done in a year will be better then work done in 3 days~ Person who drives on american roads
it depends on the technique used to dismantle and to do the reconstruction of the bridge sometimes just where it is it turn into a head ache ... if the only access to the job site is going threw residential streets yeah it will take longer sometime it is getting the oversized permits can be tricky ...
Excellent design, planning and execution.
Wonder what the settings were for the camera? Maybe 1 picture every minute?
The video is at 30fps according to TH-cam, and it's 6:39 long, and about 13 seconds of that isn't timelapse video. That's about 386 seconds, or 11,580 frames (based on 30fps). There's roughly 441,000 seconds of real time elapsed in the video (based on the timestamps at the bottom), which means that A frame would have been captured roughly once every 38 seconds.
possessedllama I thought TH-cam natively processes at 24fps unless if it’s specified that it is 60fps?
"Stats for nerds" says it's 30 so that's what I was going by.
@@brosk1s883 yt does 24 30 60 not sure about 50 or fractionals like 23.97 59.97? but to answer the question look at the clock on the bottom... appears to be a frame every 30 seconds. slow playback down to 0.25 and you can watch the minutes ticking off faster then seconds and the seconds flip flopping from 00 to 30 with no other values.
@@TheOriginalSycHolic every framerate is possible for youtube, you just get special 60 fps text when the video is 60 or above
Nice. Takes several years to do something like that here in Australia. Have watched a few bridges being built. Usually have about a dozen tradies on the job. 4 working and 8 watching.
I'm here wondering why there only a fence on one side I guess everyone o jumps on the left side of the bridge depending witch way your going down the road
Watch here
Probably something about the code. The side without a fence doesn't have a pavement, so probably the fence is more about looking safe and not about the safety.
In Poland most of the foot bridges and pavements don't have fences, only ladder-like railings. They install them only above train, tram or trolleybus cables.
one of the best slient videos in TH-cam ! .
to all those commenting about "ugh where I live this kind of thing takes forever" yeah this is a major road with no reasonable detour, so they spend a lot and pay a lot of people for a fast replacement method. they do things slowly where they can, cause it's cheaper.
They worked in all weather conditions dude..amazed
never seen so many PennDot workers working, Usually 2 guys working, 29 supervisors
lukkyluciano those aren't penn dot workers there contracted company's workers.
Look closely half of them is standing in place for long periods of time despite it being a timelapse.
there are really half dozen workers, just caught in diff places :>)
People wonder how God made the world in six days. It turns out, it was a time lapse. Seriously incredible to see so much accomplished in a two or three days. It's amazing what people can accomplish when they come together and are motivated by the knowledge that something is necessary and possible!
TH-cam algorithm at it’s finest.
Right bro
Thanks, it means a lot
Did the surrounding neighborhood which appears to have normal households not complain of the noise from the work being done at night? Especially the jackhammering at 11 PM (0:19 in the video)?
As a Swede, this is quite remarkable. They replaced a bridge over a river on a major highway, about the same size as this. 20 km detour for 3 weeks. Then they did a shoddy job paving it, so they had to close it for a couple more days a month later to repave it. Admittedly working above a river is a bit more demanding, but come on...
This is a rarity for Pennsylvania. I have had a bridge out near me for 2 years now that they haven't replaced.
Amazing work
По трассе Харьков - Сумы Ахтырский путепровод ремонтировали 20 лет
У нас в городе плановый ремонт, просто подмазать, подлить асфальт положить, на путепроводе все лето делали и потом еще 2 года ставили отбойники, перекладывали асфальт и наносили разметку.
@@tangiev46 Это всё из-за того, что этап "просто подмазать" не был проведён своевременно. Иначе было бы быстрее.
It took 3 1/2 years for a local contractor to finish a 2 year planned bridge replacement, these guys in the video made it obvious that they're the real deal.
Play the king of the hill theme while watching this. You're welcome.
Lmaooo
I grew up in this area. Still have family living right up the street from here. East Pittsburgh. Used to be a huge Westinghouse plant there. Now, there's nothing there but houses, a Port Authority bus depot and a few small businesses. I had a cool a** childhood in E.P. though!
This video is from may 2016, in Brazil the old bridge would still there in present day...
detail, the cost would be at least the triple.
In Rio, I think they have just stolen the entire bridge...
Incredible. Shows you what a municipality can do when they put their mind to it.
Если бы делали наши (Русские) то менялись бы времена года, а не дни😭! Молодцы ребята
They did a fast Rapid bridge replacement here in Wisconsin as well, It only took them two years.
Pa DOT if you could do this with ACTUALLY repaving roads and not just tar and chip in Northeastern PA that would be great
Very impressive! Thumbs up to those incredible people!
This was fun to watch, but I'm disappointed that it wasn't run out to show live traffic across the bridge, too...
I love timelapse videos! This one is nice!
TH-cam is recommending me this after 4 years...
Excellent team work and good decision of authorites
Damn it took my town 2 weeks to repair a sink hole in the road and it's a pretty big town
Wow, an efficient city road works - that's incredible.
57 hours? Nice, it would’ve taken months to do that where I’m from.
It DID take a month, look at the time stamps on the video. Started 5/20, ended 6/19. 57 hours over a month. JFC....Apparently thats fast work for the PDT.
Actually, there was work done over two separate weekends. That's why there is such a difference in the timestamps. The bridge was open to traffic between those two timeframes.
In Texas it would have taken them 4 years
This would have taken me seconds if I did it City Skylines
Just shows what can be done when they work.
My favorite is seeing people stand in one spot for the entire time. Thats union work for you
Meanwhile in Brazil we are still waiting for a monorail in São Paulo, that was promised for the 2014 world cup. The construction started in 2013, and it's nowhere near finished. hu3
State inefficiency combined with corrupted companies doesn't mix too well...
3rd world problems, I guess...
@@brielsaideles It's a problem everywhere
Putz! A dilminha não deu nosso monotrem pra gente brincar rsrsrs
Why is this trending now when it happened in 2016? And in Pennsylvania, what a surprise. PennDot, you need to really publicize these speedy projects. Good job.
imagine living in one of the houses right next to this and having work at 7am the next morning.
Looks to be only on the weekend at least. But yeesh
I totally have more respect for people that build roads and bridges now that I saw this.
don’t be fooled, Pennsylvania is very slow with road repairs and they suck.
You dont like cheesesteaks?
At lest be happy that they finished it this fast come to India!
For the same work they will 5 to 6 months
This is way faster than for an Indian
djbryan2113 some things don’t get done for 8-12 months.
who me there is this place in Bangalore where the dug up the road
In 2019 January and now its July 2020 so basically 1 year and 6 months
That they have still not fixed the god dam road.
@@bryanwilkin7242 That sounds like your talking about PA.
Took them 3 years to do that??
It took a year from where i live for them to do that
very
professional and high performance
When speeded up like that it almost looks like more than one out of three guys is actually doing something besides standing around and watching. That just isn't done!
Well they knew they were on camera so...
Nobody:
The advertisement sign: YO YO YO YO YO YO YO YO YO YO
I can understand a train track needing to be replaced quickly but why the big rush on this street?
Was looking at the sign at the far right corner the whole time..
Great work, and God bless!
PennDot doing something quick & efficiently 🤔
I don’t know man , I’m having a hard time believing it 😒
The music was so great😲
That would take 6 months to 1 year to complete in Australia.
At least years to have a poor replacement in Brazil, costing ten times the fair value. Do not complain, because you don’t really know what an incompetent job mean. 57 hours? Fantastic! An outstanding achievment.
usually what sort of compensation the city will give to the house next to the site for this type of overnight project? like a stay at the local hotel?
Only if they cleaned the roads that fast when it snows
@@MUCKFOOT399 that too
Very impressive, replacing a bridge in under 6:30 mins.
чёЙто озеленение и рекультивацию земли не показали?..
So they can rebuild and replace and entire bridge in just a couple of days but it takes 3 years to fix a couple of pot holes in my city???
Amazing work. Just amazing.
I agree, I wish most if not all major projects had some sore of time-lapse going, I love watching them. Check out some of the stuff that Network Rail did in England/Australia - th-cam.com/users/results?search_query=network+rail+time+lapse
What were they doing under the bridge that needed that plastic to cover or isolate from the outside?
если бы снимали наших таймлапс, то было бы видно как они только курят а мост сам по себе строится.
та не то что курят а ещё смена года!
3 days nice, its been over 1 year for I-75 at mile marker 30 in Kentucky.
In Illinois, everyone involved would be fired. This type of thing is unacceptable.
The 13'9" clearance sign was there from the beginning... was it placed prematurely or was the bridge already that high or...?
in the Philippines it will take 3 to 5 years for that kind of project justsaying
Evidence? Or just pure stupidity?
India agrees !
I'm not surprised that they were able to do the work in a short time. Just look how fast all of them are moving.
In my country, this would take at least 3 years to finish, and even then it wouldn't be at 100% it would probably take 1 election to make it to 100% so that politicians can say "Look we did it in record time!"
How they backfill under the approaches? Is that a polymer expansion joint at the end of slab?
must have sucked for the people who lived in those houses right there....
matthew kelly well they chose to live next to a highway so I’m sure it’s not that big of a deal
For all those who say that it only took them 5 to 6 days to repair that, let me tell you that they are wrong, it took 28 to 29 calendar days, take a good look at the start and end date of the video.....
Para todos aquellos que dicen que solo les tomó de 5 a 6 días reparar eso, déjenme decirles que están equivocados, tomó de 28 a 29 días calendario, miren bien la fecha de inicio y finalización del video.
main bridge replacement took a few days
Must have been fun to live near that while they demo'd the bridge overnight.
Or you wake up one morning to drive over it and think "hang on, wasn't there a bridge here yesterday?"
ohh no, what a problem, noises for 1 night.. oh no, cry baby, cry =(
esso si méritan acclamaciones y félicitationes ! esso si vale 10 a la nota ! biutifull work, wonderfulll !
В россии это было бы 2 года
хуеплет , да , 2 года , но не пролет , а Крымский мост !
That was fascinating and all, but wth was that squiggly line they painted in middle of the road? How hard is it to paint a straight line...
Вот это четко сработано!!!!
Wow they built that bridge in six minutes! That's impressive!
This is why mars will have skyscrapers by day seven, After humans land on it.
Thank you great video. Bridge is nicely done, which way is the great place to visit, till then keep smiling with lol politely & safely keep cross the bridge
the chinesse would do it in 3 hours!
Yeah and its faster to fall. Chinese quality sucks
Very impressive, you can't bet prefabricated for speed.
the bridge deck sit directly on the abutment facings? Are the abutment facings supported by piles?
So, did you guys use Set-45 or Duracal for all the poured-in-place concrete? 😉😁
Why did they have to put that huge plastic cover ?
Took my state of Oklahoma 38 months to replace a two lane bridge, and the bridge had problems about a year later and now has a distinct > shape to it.
That is incredible!!