하하 케이팝에서 어느팀이 다른 팀의 컨셉의 모방에 대해 아무 말도 하지않아 ,,,,,그것은 그냥 관례이다 ,, 장르와 컨셉는 같은것이 아니고 ,, 작품의 컨셉이 팀 마다 시대마다 다른것은 현실이고 ,, 그러한 모방은 사실은 빈번하다 ,, 모방을 한다해도 그것은 지적재산권 같은 법규에 의해 침범이 되지 못한다고
@@JustTheFacts530 그러니까 케이팝 내에서 유행 하는 음악 컨셉이 실제로 무수하게 모방이 된다,, 이는 표절이 아니므로 위반으로 부르지는 않거든,,,,,, 노래 의 사운드나 비트의 표절과 같은것이 아니라고 ,,,, 이는 다른나라가 케이팝의 구조를 모방 해도 그것은 잘못은 아니다 ,, 모방은 재산권 침해가 아니어서 허용이 되는 것이야
@@Real-ranchia Broski the more you talk the worse it gets, your Kpop structure was first invented in Japan where the labels started training nowadays so called "idols". Koreans saw potential in it and started implementing it themselves. Before you talk about Kpop structure get your facts straight.
@@OneTaperino 이봐 이봐 ,,,,,,,무식한 소리를 그만하기로 하자,,,, 너는 아이돌에 대해 얼마나 아는가 말이다,,, 도대체 아이돌의 시작은 누구??,,, 어디에서???,, 인터넷 검색으로도 상세히 나온다 ,,,,, 일본에서 아이돌 시스템이 발명이 되어??,,,,,,하하하하하하하,, 뭐 약간 기여한것은 있기는 하지,,, 모두가 혐오 하는 로리타 컨셉의 아이돌 말이다,,, QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ
2. Hip-hop is often done...oddly in K-pop. It's like the companies listen to one shitty drill song or a lil pump song and say, "Yeah, this is how HipHop is done." 😭
How quick people are to forget the even stranger 2nd gen hip hop concepts that EVERY boy group had like BTS, BAP, and Block B. Bad Villain is a bad name? Are we forgetting that BTS literally stands for "Bulletproof Boyscouts" and RM stands for "Rap Monster"? Ngl hip-hop has always been done dirty in kpop. Does Korea even HAVE hoods? I'm sure they have bad neighborhoods but as an American who's not even from inner city hoods, I can't imagine why anyone would want to use that as an aesthetic? Hoods are really shitty places to grow up in.
@NinjaKittkatt Yeah, the hood is not fun or a place to want to be. And you're so right, Hip-hop concept always seen in a way, mostly that to do it, you need to be "thuggish" when you really don't need to have or act that way to make hip-hop music, though a lot of earlier Pioneers and current ones subscribed to this act. Plus, thanks cause I didn't know half of this cause I don't and didn't follow most 2nd and 3rd gen groups. If it's odd now, I can only imagine then when you could get away with ignorance a little more.
@@NinjaKittkatt So you need low income, poor neighborhoods with high criminality (black hoods) to have a hip hop culture? Hip Hop is a fashion and artistic style that ORIGINATED in USA. Just like otaku culture or race culture have their origins in different countries but y’all in America use them without thinking deeply about “cultural implications” . Korea has an underground rap scenes since the 90s and is quite popular, rap ≠ poor and a criminal, this is a stupid stereotype . Rap can be clean, deep, complex and respectful towards women and the law
So annoying I wish ever kpop Stans were multiple stans not these solo stand especially those that want to Stan one person in a group, like can we like all of the new groups
K-pop is the definition of Plagiarism. The k-pop industry is base on Gimmicking and imitation whatever is trending in the k-pop universe until XG step into the scene and break the boundaries now almost all k-pop ggs are following XG's shadow like a choo choo train.
XG is the only pop group from the east that feels authentic. This is why Americans are rockin with them. That bad villain group is really corny. The label is going to ruin those girls talent.
1) Aespa can't touch XG. Aespa is talented and shouldn't be compared. Aespa is aespa, xg is xg! Xg is breaking boundaries that aespa and other k-pop girl groups aren't trying to do.
QQQQQ,,, XG is the first????? It's just a concept used in other K-pops in the past. XG's company copied it, but the alien theme can be recognized as the first.
@@Real-ranchiaxg aliens and futuristic mv’s are no joke. You can compare them to aespa. Like the visuals are crazy and they also do their own stunts like Harvey literally submerging herself in a pool of water .
Like Maya said said, "To my HATERS the more the merrier." Wannbe Kpop rappers will get destroyed and embarrassed lyrically literally by the XG rappers. They know real rap and Hip-Hop history.
I think other groups fans are intimidated by xg so they try to pull them down. I agree there are to many of these 'hip hop' group and I think it comes from how xg was well received by the general public so they try to copy their rapline but don't have the main ingredient which is their authenticity and appreciation of the rap and rnb culture.
Yeah I mean, I think it can’t be helped if more idols doing same concept if that concept is on demand. The problem is if a company/group just mimick the outer shell but not really study, appreciate and deliver depth in quality of their music and performance….
Why are people so stupid how can aespa copy xg if they debuted first with that concept none of the girls copied each other oh my God people are just ugh🙄
in reality, there are only so many concepts to go around, so you will always have duplication, my opinion is XG doing hip-hop is legit, just look at reactions, a ton from people that are into rap and hip-hop are blown away. I watched XG do a 90’s music challenge, they guesed everything from Dr. Dre / Snoop Dog to Erykah Badu. One of Cocona’s favorite artist growing up was Lauren Hill. When she was in grade school, they did a class project, each student did a poster, saying what wanted to do as a career. Her poster said rapper. not a concept, just who they are.
I wouldn't mind cosplaying hip hop if they actually did hip hop good. Hip Hop hard or go home. Some of these hip hop theme idol groups are letting me down because they clearly haven't mastered rap. That should've been the first thing they did before even debuting.
1. it’s really EMBARRAZZING FOR MYs to come for XG when both groups love and support each other l mean we have TikTok to prove this! Them literally coming for XG is so shameful! Alphaz as a Fandom have seriously moved past this cause we know that both Aespa and XG have different concepts and we actually use common sense and while MYs are busy being Hateful XG is literally breaking stereotypes and as a fandom we are just happy with how far our girls have come😍 AIN’T NOBODY GOT TIME FOR HATE
K-pop stan will find any excuses to hate on XG since they can't attack XG on talents, swag, visual, fashion, stage performance, stage presentation, everything under the sun cause they wishes their favs could have less than half of XG talents and swag.
Xg stan started it ..by saying aespa copied their concept all mys did was remind them . They changed their concept from girlcrush to futuristic after aespa's success
@@BhaktManomandirVihariniUma yea no.... aespa has been successful before xg came on the scene. so xg did nothing to change up after aespas success. dont be delusional
@garumachis they're attacking any group with a slight hint of cyber/ sci-fi. Ive got bashed with accendio, and xg with woke up I believe....And hybe groups are getting bashed because mhj said the bsh wanted to crush aespa..... Also, I highly recommend getting off of stan twitter unless you're like me and going there to make fun of peoples' stupidity.
@garumachis Yes, some mys can be toxic but don't get fooled. Some anti mys are doing this by adding aespa members as their profile pic to drag all the hate towards aespa. And the reason some fans are hating on ive, bp,rv, le sserafim and itzy is because of how fans of these groups dragged aespa through mud during girls era. If u weren’t a fan back then, just know it was BAD. And now suddenly the fans of these otger groups are pulling the victim card when they were giving death threats to the aespa girlies.
I may have missed something but I've never seen Aespa have a concept of an furry alien space wolf thing that xg has lol they been doing like that since Shooting Star when Aespa still had the Sims 4 concept
Yes! From the get go, XG has been staying true to their concept and if they have had their alien outerspace since before Aespa took on this concept . . .Aespa’s fits ( look at their nails in their latest vids ) is such a copy from XG’s style . . So Aespa’s fan’s claims that their idols are original is just pure delulu . .. oh and can I just point out their lyrics in Supernova and Armageddon?! Su su su supernova?! Bang bang chitty chitty bang bang in Armageddon? here they go again . . .repeating syllables in their English lyrics and chanting is so overdone in Kpop
I’ve seen two idols in interviews this last week being asked what group would u want to be in or would suit you to be in if you weren’t ever in your current group or weren’t in the group that u used to be in? Their answer….? ‘’XG.” I believe one of them was from Zerobaseone and the other was Girls Generation
number one is so funny bc the first thing i thought when i saw both supernova and armagedon was "wow this is very similar to what xg is doing" there are similarities between both groups lore but theres no denying that aespas creative team is grabbing directly from what xg is doing. you CANNOT explain the airbrush tats, the eye symbolism, and the invading earth concept, all of which xg has been very obvious about in their past few comebacks. so for aespa stans to flip it around is so so hilarious to me lmao and on sms part its a huge huge effing cop out considering aespa has already been know for being trendy and out of the box, sm taking from other companies is a big shame.
@@yoonsbangsliveinmymindfree im laughing because loona is an old group no one is pulling concepts from them these days. it is okay to admit when groups are sus about their releases. if aespas comeback dropped a month after xgs i wouldnt have said anything! but these releases are back to back and aespa has unique details theyve taken from xg even including the ending credits lmaoooo it is obvious, extremely obvious what they are doing. its not pitting any group together its pointing out very obvious things. and that very obvious thing is that SM obviously likes what simon got going on ffor xg and they want some too. and its a cop out for a company like SM. and id like to point out sm has lost alot of aespas lore along the way.
Its ironic because when i watched aespa's Armageddon mv, it reminded me of XG concept. Later found out that the mv director of the aespa mv was the same director who was responsible for tgif by xg.
You knw what's ironic Mys didn't even start this one .. all xg stans were accusing aespa of copying their concept.. and that when mys said your fave had futuristic concept because of aespa's success.. fandoms who start the shit are good at changing narrative lol
On behalf of the K-pop industry, we would like to thank XG and AVEX for saving the k-pop industry AGAIN. We are highly appreciative of XG bringing worldwide attention to non-kpop fans to the K-pop universe. We also like to apologize on behalf of our k-pop stan for having NO idea of what REAL music is and leave toxic comments thinking everything evolved around Kpop or their favs.
7. 100% agree. I might make this a point in a video or a whole video of its own. In my opinion when it comes to sexualisation by fans, Niki had one of if not the worst fan sexualisations of a minor idol. These women would legit say “I don’t care if he’s 15” which is just horrid. There was also this one TikTok talking about ateez’s crotches during Coachella and everyone else was supporting it and talking about it in the comments. That is just absolutely disgusting. I don’t care how old they are. That is plain disrespectful and disgusting to say about anyone. Especially if it’s a stranger. It’s fine to say that an idol is hot or sexy but you can never start saying how you want them in bed. That’s just nauseating.
I have to be honest …I’ve been a fan of #XG when I believed they were an ELITE Dance Crew. Later I seen Teasers for “TIPPY TOES”. After, I watched their debut…people were accusing them of saying they were under YG. The HATERZ just came out of the woodwork. Then I responded to so many Xenophobic comments…I couldn’t believe the TOXICITY, ACCUSATIONS and NASTINESS. I later found out they were Kpop Stan’s. #XG has treated everyone graciously and respectfully. Please support them for being creatively unique. Daily, I’m happy to see #Alphaz growing organically. I’d like to see new people listen to their Artistic and Versatile music. #XG has OG Hip Hop style and sound because they value the music 🎶 and culture. Please take the time to watch the Documentary Series “Xtra Xtra” as it will definitely solidified who they are and what they’re about. 🙆🏻♀️🎶💫🤍🐺
To evaluate their dance, only the debut TIPPY TOES is good, and after that, the quality is severely deteriorated and ruined, I'm starting to lose my ability to dance!
With your second opinion, I agree. Young Posse is another group that I can't take seriously when it comes to their hiphop/rap concept. It's like an imitation.
@@Real-ranchia you are one of or a combination of: 1) living in your moms basement 2) jobless stuffing your face with choco pies all day 3) employed to hate on XG Karma comes for people like you. It’s inevitable sooner or later.
On the contrary, YP seem like the closest to being authentic out of the recent debuts (obviously not counting XG! They set the trend). The girls talked about what it means to do Hiphop for them, they write their own bars and their bars are actually quite honest and refreshing. You're free to not like them but they seem and sound like a genuine group to me, obviously as much as it's possible since they JUST debuted.
same. i tried to check them out; xxl is alright, but their music feels like a lot of nct titles, building a song around a random english noun or adjective they pulled out of a hat. that one rapper is pretty good but how tf are they gonna have a song about macaroni cheese and expect me to take them seriously. hope their pds let them do something actually innovative cause they could probably pull it off
@@ithoughtiwascishet1316 I dont think you're supposed to take them seriously. Their title track is always goofy and unserious. The one that hit hard are their b-sides like Scars, ROTY and OTB.
6. People need to understand this because seventeen performed in a literal stadium with one of the biggest audiences of 3rd gen but people say it doesn’t count because it was in Japan😵💫
#1: XG was rocking the alien concept before Aespa did. Aespa only did it after XG released GRL GVNG. #2: XG is the only group that has unlimited knowledge of hip hop, rap, and RnB. XG is the only group that show respect and paid homage to hip hop artists/rappers in their songs and raps. They are student of hip hop. Badvillian is imitating XG and taking the XG formula to a whole new level with no knowledge of what hip hop is.
@@Real-ranchiano you are the ignorant one every time someone brings up XG, you're right there spreading false information not only you stupid you are ignorant too.
As a person who’s from New York and is very big on rap music, I’m kinda excited for BadVillian, however, it is off putting when they sing lyrics like “Spinning the block” or when Young Posse did gun shot sounds in their song Posse Up which is such a clear copy of the New York drill mixed with jersey club trend among New York rappers. Like who are y’all pulling up on? 😂 I still like the songs tho
Don't worry, probably one of the Badvillian member might shave her head.. or probably all of them will shave their head. You know the meaning of my comment, right?
@@AUGHHHHHBBG LMFAOO FR like I’m a Queens native and it’s so funny to me but I ain’t gon lie some of the songs be bops. Like skyline from Young Posse is too good
Seventeen tho regularly "get inspired" by others - not only aespa, but Atrez and NCT Dream. I remember feeling like a fool watching a Hello Future 2.0😅
Aespa isn't copying xg, Aespa isnt copying BLACKPINK, Aespa isnt copying ITZY, Aespa isnt copying New jeans, i swear i hear kpop stans say Aespa is copying thsee groups when Aespa has one of the most unique concepts, that is done well. They aren't copying. But also Aespa doesn't own futuristic concepts, lets make that clear. Aespa has had this cool concept since debut, this isn't something they JUST picked up.
AESPA is the most unique and unique among K-pop girl groups, but they share a concept with Dreamcatcher. If I were to give it a name, it would be the Warrior Girl concept... The locals keep mentioning that they learned it from XG, but XG is a typical example of an individualistic Japanese person. This is a case,,,,, K-pop completely ignores J-pop at this point,,,,The reason is because J-pop has already been ruined. Moreover, XG is not able to gain presence in the K-pop fandom and around the world,,, Basically, XG tries to follow YG style passionately,,, In fact, AESPA pursues a more radical style than YG style.
@@louvrelicky 하하하,,인기의 척도에서 XG는 심하게 미달 상태 라는 것이다 ,, 그러니 이들이 인기가 없음이 명확하다고 ,,,,그건 실력의 크고 작음 하고도 무관 하다고 ,,,, 케이팝 가수중 실력파들이 낮은 인기로 인해 고전을 하다가 몇년후에 사라져 버리거든,,,그것이 일반적이라고 ,,,,,
For high notes, I agree, my favourite vocalists are Lia, Haewon and Miyeon. What I love about Haewon is her strong voice rather than her falsetto and what I love about Lia’s voice is when it’s smooth like her cover of “Can’t take my eyes off of you”. Of course I love vocalists like Winter who can break glass with her drama high note but sometimes I prefer the lower voices 🫶🏼
I also have an unpopular opinion (no hate just an opinion): I actually didn’t like supernova and armageddon but everyone did so I listened again and again but I guess that I can’t force myself to like a song. Did not saw someone with the same opinion as me yet so yeah please don’t hate or be toxic it’s just my own opinion …
2. I mean their name is cringe, but id rather wait for their comeback or more content before forming an opinion on their music. Till now the 'hip-hop' looks "forced".
I don’t even think their concept is mostly hiphop/rapper based, like listening to badvillain and badtitude highlight medley just doesn’t scream hiphop to me… but again, it’s a ten second clip
3. Agree.. Fans need to know this about songwriting credits : there's hierarchy in songwriting credits, the first being the one who contributed most and the last being the least. So for a song with 8 songwriters, if your idol's name come in at the end, they were barely in the room. Stop overpraising like "his song, written by him" coz its not. This goes for BTS too. Armys just glorify BTS to be "self produced" when in reality (other than rapline) they barely contribute anything. This happened with V from BTS. I see Stray Kids, GIDLE, SEVENTEEN having more control in their work, including songwriting credits than BTS.
Seems to me SKZ claim credit if they aren’t even in the room they are in the same building. Just saying. Churning out jumbled words by anybody isn’t talent. IMO. My 6yr old can force a nonsensical rhyme too. If I bought her a system she could produce also. Congratulations.The rapline is BTS so not sure what you mean by that. Just because anyone can write and produce crap doesn’t mean they should. The song writing/self produced thing has gone too far I think. Self grandiose attitudes towards mediocre outcomes ALL around.
@@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq Right. In your opinion. Like you said, opinions don’t mean it’s true. I appreciate that you are bringing this up but pointing out one group when ALL could do better might have been better. IMO
I don't agree with your statement about BTS not having as much hand on their songs as SVT, SKZ etc. You just showed me that you know little about BTS cus if you actually know them, you would know how involved they are in their music. Just some examples, RM wrote most of spring day lyrics, he's also the one who came up with the melodies, Jhope is the produced dis-ease for himself but ended up doing it with the other members, Suga produced Daechwita with his friend, even V composed the song zero o'clock for himself but ended up doing as BTS. They even go on live, mostly RM, to talk about how they made their songs/album.
It's true that the vocal lines are not as involved tho. But even when they are not the ones writing it or produce or compose it, they are the ones who choose what they want. That is already being involved The rapline??? Girl I think you don't really know them. They are so involved with their music that that was one of the reasons why they were so miserable last year since they felt like they've said it all.
2:42 the thing is is that kpop is built off of changing true hiphop to vibe more with the general public instead of actually doing something truly hiphop related.
supernova its dead star and never an alien the alien thing comes from winter because she blahblahed over it and fans made it their whole personality and the photoshoot concept was used by everyone dead or alive fans should really back off abit
G IDLE stans are the worst at throwing around the "self produced" phrase lol. They will NEVER bring up that Soyeon has any help with all the songs. Also they try to act like Minnie and Yuqi are writing every song too when they will only help on 1 or 2 max per album. NO groups are self produced!
Hey! Cocona is rocking her militar cut now, kind of dissapointed you did not use her new look for the J-pop oppinion. And about the over sexualization of idols. As a women I think that a flash of abs or a few buttons off are more enticing than the lack of a shirt. In the same way that see trough shirts over bustiers and peeping skirts over ultra short skirts. Insinuation are a lot more interesting that showing and a lot more confortable even to see. And of course I think that it should be only if the idol is comfortable with it and above 20.
They’re just excluding Asian artists because with Afro beats artists they’re included more and are given serious Grammy nominations and Grammy awards, they’re taken more seriously with collaboration too. I think the issue with asian artist Being taken seriously is that they’re not really “artists” most don’t write, and no creative freedom. I mean every single K-pop documentary produced by western media talks about them being trained machines and coming from a K-pop factory, and to me that terminology makes them come across like uninspired, untalented money making individuals that don’t care much for music. And it doesn’t help that K-pop copies everything the west does as of lately and when you have positions in a group like “ visuals” were your sole purpose is visuals well that’s kinda another reason for the west to not take you seriously as an artist. It’s too robotic
Atleast that’s the vibe I get from general public that isn’t into K-pop. We see this in the way that even paparazzi talks to them (very rude, dismissive)
That first take on Knock off Hip Hop was so hot I could've swore it was fresh off the stove. Idol company's having there artists rapping GANGSTER rap and Drill 2 completely separate rap sub sets, both with styles that accompany 2 very different tales of what "making it out" requires, both as far as removed from the Korean cultural societal experience as can be.... WILL never NOT be the most delulu take from the kpop industry currently. It really is sad because there ARE PLENTY of talented, HUNGRY Korean lovers of hip hop that REALLY adore the genre, truly appreciate it WHO ACTUALLY WANT TO BRING REAL HIP HOP (and all it CAN BE) TO KOREA but the continued pushing of the same misused stereotypes for a cash grab or "statement" DOESN'T go unnoticed, it helps no one and leaves so many who are talented in the genre, who COULD REALLY GROW AND EXPLODE WITH IT OUTSIDE OF KOREA forced to "convert"
2. "Spin the block block block" BAE...YOU ARE FROM KOREA... and the Durags.. thats not... 3. Literally this is something I've been screaming about since SKZ and (G)I-DLE's debut. It's funny because just because people be saying that SKZ isn't self made because it says 3RACHA in the credits.. as if they're not in THE SAME GROUP... and also the other producers in the credits .. like.. they dont just sit there on the side lines and let it all play out. Ofc they're gonna contribute somehow, it's their jobs people.
Everyone has space vibes 😂 everyone is from space or “fallen angels” vampires, bad boys or girls lol it literally all the same they just switch from time to time, as long as money is involved they will never do research on the culture of hip-hop they don’t care
XG copying aespa? Thats funny aespa fans feels so threatened because they know that XG will blow up .. watch XG take over the music industry globally..
EVERYONE knows XG slayed on every Korean music shows when they step onto the stage making K-pop stan favs performance looking like a bunch of childrendoing an elementary school play. Aespa just won award on M-net but XG won the public opinion worldwide and Aespa fans knows this.
@@yoonsbangsliveinmymindfree Come on. It's obvious, K-pop stans will attack XG for NO reason because they feel threatened by XG talents and swag.. I know it. You know it. Everyone knows it.
@@yoonsbangsliveinmymindfree my point is, I see you on every comments accusing XG of copying Loona, Aespa, NewJeans, etc.. Hypocritical double standard much?
None of us are threatened lol their fandom started this shit by accusing aespa of copying all mys said xg changed their concept into futuristic after aespa's success
@@yoonsbangsliveinmymindfree I'm not twisting your words. You are literally defending the same people that accusing XG of copying their favs. I'm calling out your double standards.. do you know what double standards means? 🤔
8:30 YES people who say BTS brought Kpop to international are wrong. It was BoA who opened the way as she was the first one to perform in another country (Japan). People gotta stop misunderstanding!!
@@EverRoxas I understand why they would because BTS surely had a huge impact but if we’re because truthful, they wouldn’t be here without those who were there before 👍🏼
I just don't get it why people always gotta drag each other down what the flip pleaaaaseee I 100% agree with the knockoff hip-hop 💀 dude i cannot with the delulu stans ofc every fandom has that side it's so cringe and gross they're a whole nother breed on twt/tt they scare me and I do NOT cclaim those things
Aespa fans began hating on Ateez recently, I saw a tweet that said ‘evil has been defeated’ cause aespa replaced Ateez at number 1. LIKE WHAT. The fact that atinys also helped mys to stream aespa comeback too. They are probably one of the most toxic 4th gen fandoms imo.
It is funny how suddenly everybody knows what real hiphop is... as if the American mainstream "hiphop" is representing the culture acurately and is not criticized for its superficiality.
When it comes to number 6 I agree with everything you said It’s so frustrating too when you live in a household with parents who are generally more negative towards Asians in general and say that “they are all the same people” like no tf they aren’t, and my parents are also the type of people who keep saying “oh you like those Chinese people?” I have to correct them everytime and tell them that they are Korean and they get pissed at me for it, i wish things weren’t this way.
1. 🤡 are they serious?? I didn't know lmaoo XG was the first doing it not them 💀I'm so glad I wasn't on twitter then I would've been furious 🤣0:47 I remember those days 😂 I'm embarrassed to say that I didn't like them at first and commented a lot that they copied K/DA (I'm a blade so) yeah.. later I liked Giselle so I changed 😙tho it's kinda sad I don't see their virtual concept at all.. I started to like their avatars what happened to them lol. I mean I'm happy for them to blend with the alien concept 👍 not for the fans tho they should learn to do some research 💀
Xg stans started it by accusing aespa of copying if you were on Twitter you would know that lol.. after that all mys said their concept changed because of aespa's success..lol
@@BhaktManomandirVihariniUma like I said I wasn’t there 🤷🏻♀️thankfully. I mean everyone would’ve noticed the similarities I did too and commented but later I did some research and the team behind the MVs was the same one who did GRL GVNG so it all made sense
Aespa is really eating rn but that doesn't mean that they invented what they are doing and MY'S don't get it. They are also over the moon for 'beating nj's records'. Let's calm down alittle Also about the badvillian one, i low-key agree. They give alittle similar vibes as of young posse to me. They don't feel that authentic. It does give 'school play' kinda vibes. But the girls are talented so im just waiting for their debut.
Let's be real, Badvillian is an clone of XG. Before XG debuted, they released dance videos showing off their dance skills, Badvillian copy that. Sooner or later, Badvillian will released their own rap video just like XG did. Badvillian is leeching off of XG formula and taking it to a whole new level. At least, others XG clones limited their imitation of XG.
it's the way I didn't see a single MY celebrating over "breaking nj's records", instead I've seen MYs and Bunnies getting along very well nowadays. the celebration I saw from MYs was the fact that 'Supernova' was stable on kcharts despite newjeans releasing a new song because newjeans are literally known for being digimons, and bunnies took it has a compliment because they know. Also, 'Supernova' didn't break any particular previous record of NewJeans, it did break records held by other groups tho, so what are you talking about?
2:46 No cus can we hve a discussion about some kpop stans saying these hip hop style kpop groups are BETTER than the og- Like no im not taking koreans talking about shooting someone as if guns aren't illegal in korea and idols talking about hood life but u live in one of the modt expensive places in korea 😭 im tired
People keep bragging their faves are self produced and write their own lyrics but is it really a flex when lyrics are so bad and make no sense? I don’t think so
5. I mean its in the name itself - K pop and J pop, its pop music in another language, they cannot be whole genres. Unlike Latin pop, Afro beat who has a distinct sound to be labeled as genre, KPOP and JPOP can never be a genre.
XG's shadow... "Gonna keep ya gonna keep ya on ya tippy toes. Watch the way we move, the way we work, the way we glow. They ain't ready for us, we about to wreck the game, on the back of us, they follow like a choo choo train" XG straight talking facts on their debute song. They got all these 5th generation K-pop ggs following them like a choo choo train.
@@ladymoon7327 one group is deeply rooted in hip hop and RnB culture. The other group is a gimmick and imitation with no knowledge of what hip hop is. Can you tell the difference?
It’s not about how many notes you can carry, it’s about the quality of your basket. Even if you can carry high notes that doesn’t matter because if your basket (technique) has holes in it you’re going to drop them at one point or another. …also I thought it was pretty clear that Aespa veered in the alien direction when the ‘NAVI’ thing didn’t pull through? I thought it was a really smart marketing choice! Yes, I did think about XG for all of 10 secs, but they already have such a streamlined image at this point that I find it laughable that ppl are claiming they copied each other.
3.omg, thank you! So, 3racha, you know them. I saw a youtuber ain't gonna name. Just say look, they have other names on theirs. They got help, so they didn't produce this song, and I said well... no, they did because their names are all over the whole album 5-Star and rock star. Because someone has one, our two help in a dang song does not mean they did not write the song at all if they wrote and produced and if it says that it says that.
MiniJean has committed an error using the term plagiarism, plagiarism is the sound or melody of the song, and other copies or imitations are not plagiarism
You let XG off the hook. I agree with Bad Villain but they’re brand new and XG has been drowning in African American culture. I like them a lot. As artists they are the bomb but if you’re looking at groups trying to look hood then they’re leaps ahead of BV.
2. On Badvillain, I’m willing to give them some time mostly bc 1) we finally got a group that isn’t afraid to let the majority of its members out of middle school and 2) I actually really like their debut song. Hopefully we don’t get into XG levels of blackaboo and tone it down for the comeback.
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ironically the majority of KPOP is rooted in plagiarising genres and concepts
하하 케이팝에서 어느팀이 다른 팀의 컨셉의 모방에 대해 아무 말도 하지않아 ,,,,,그것은 그냥 관례이다 ,,
장르와 컨셉는 같은것이 아니고 ,, 작품의 컨셉이 팀 마다 시대마다 다른것은 현실이고 ,, 그러한 모방은 사실은 빈번하다 ,,
모방을 한다해도 그것은 지적재산권 같은 법규에 의해 침범이 되지 못한다고
Facts some of them are culture vultures and it just has to stop
@@JustTheFacts530 그러니까 케이팝 내에서 유행 하는 음악 컨셉이 실제로 무수하게 모방이 된다,,
이는 표절이 아니므로 위반으로 부르지는 않거든,,,,,,
노래 의 사운드나 비트의 표절과 같은것이 아니라고 ,,,,
이는 다른나라가 케이팝의 구조를 모방 해도 그것은 잘못은 아니다 ,,
모방은 재산권 침해가 아니어서 허용이 되는 것이야
@@Real-ranchia Broski the more you talk the worse it gets, your Kpop structure was first invented in Japan where the labels started training nowadays so called "idols". Koreans saw potential in it and started implementing it themselves. Before you talk about Kpop structure get your facts straight.
@@OneTaperino 이봐 이봐 ,,,,,,,무식한 소리를 그만하기로 하자,,,,
너는 아이돌에 대해 얼마나 아는가 말이다,,, 도대체 아이돌의 시작은 누구??,,, 어디에서???,,
인터넷 검색으로도 상세히 나온다 ,,,,,
일본에서 아이돌 시스템이 발명이 되어??,,,,,,하하하하하하하,,
뭐 약간 기여한것은 있기는 하지,,, 모두가 혐오 하는 로리타 컨셉의 아이돌 말이다,,,
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"The only block she's spinning is the one in Minecraft" is crazyy 🤣
2. Hip-hop is often done...oddly in K-pop. It's like the companies listen to one shitty drill song or a lil pump song and say, "Yeah, this is how HipHop is done." 😭
How quick people are to forget the even stranger 2nd gen hip hop concepts that EVERY boy group had like BTS, BAP, and Block B. Bad Villain is a bad name? Are we forgetting that BTS literally stands for "Bulletproof Boyscouts" and RM stands for "Rap Monster"? Ngl hip-hop has always been done dirty in kpop. Does Korea even HAVE hoods? I'm sure they have bad neighborhoods but as an American who's not even from inner city hoods, I can't imagine why anyone would want to use that as an aesthetic? Hoods are really shitty places to grow up in.
@NinjaKittkatt Yeah, the hood is not fun or a place to want to be. And you're so right, Hip-hop concept always seen in a way, mostly that to do it, you need to be "thuggish" when you really don't need to have or act that way to make hip-hop music, though a lot of earlier Pioneers and current ones subscribed to this act. Plus, thanks cause I didn't know half of this cause I don't and didn't follow most 2nd and 3rd gen groups. If it's odd now, I can only imagine then when you could get away with ignorance a little more.
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@@NinjaKittkatt yep the cultural appropriation of black culture is rampant in Kpop.
@@NinjaKittkatt
So you need low income, poor neighborhoods with high criminality (black hoods) to have a hip hop culture? Hip Hop is a fashion and artistic style that ORIGINATED in USA. Just like otaku culture or race culture have their origins in different countries but y’all in America use them without thinking deeply about “cultural implications” . Korea has an underground rap scenes since the 90s and is quite popular, rap ≠ poor and a criminal, this is a stupid stereotype . Rap can be clean, deep, complex and respectful towards women and the law
#6 is so true and I hope people understand that and also AFRICA ISNT A COUNTRY EITHER BUT A CONTINENT
it's not that they don't understand, they intentionally act stupid
Me as a child:
At this point you guys be throwing the word Plagiarism more than a tennis ball 😭💀
So annoying
I wish ever kpop Stans were multiple stans not these solo stand especially those that want to Stan one person in a group, like can we like all of the new groups
K-pop is the definition of Plagiarism. The k-pop industry is base on Gimmicking and imitation whatever is trending in the k-pop universe until XG step into the scene and break the boundaries now almost all k-pop ggs are following XG's shadow like a choo choo train.
@@re1ribution😂😂😂😂
It’s like groups can’t even make homages anymore…
Like most things people claim are plagiarism are basic af and have been done a billion times before in some way
#1 ...WHAT? XG is copying Aespa? for the love of GOD aespa got no shit compared to XG... anyone disagree ill fight you any day
Also the comparison of aespa with the girl gvng concept photos when the aespa photos came AFTER is crazy
Aespa is like that sparkly slim sword but XG is like that broad dark sword. How can theybbe the same
plagiarism is like the new cancellation culture, soon if not already it is going to lose its meaning
XG is the only pop group from the east that feels authentic. This is why Americans are rockin with them. That bad villain group is really corny. The label is going to ruin those girls talent.
1. Some stans have learned a new word and won't let it go 😭
1) Aespa can't touch XG. Aespa is talented and shouldn't be compared. Aespa is aespa, xg is xg! Xg is breaking boundaries that aespa and other k-pop girl groups aren't trying to do.
QQQQQ,,, XG is the first?????
It's just a concept used in other K-pops in the past.
XG's company copied it, but the alien theme can be recognized as the first.
@@Real-ranchiaand concept kpop coppy from jpop
@@Real-ranchiaxg aliens and futuristic mv’s are no joke. You can compare them to aespa. Like the visuals are crazy and they also do their own stunts like Harvey literally submerging herself in a pool of water .
I love xg but what boundaries they're breaking????
@@ratangarg3821 your questions should be “what boundaries aren’t they breaking “
Like Maya said said, "To my HATERS the more the merrier." Wannbe Kpop rappers will get destroyed and embarrassed lyrically literally by the XG rappers. They know real rap and Hip-Hop history.
I think other groups fans are intimidated by xg so they try to pull them down. I agree there are to many of these 'hip hop' group and I think it comes from how xg was well received by the general public so they try to copy their rapline but don't have the main ingredient which is their authenticity and appreciation of the rap and rnb culture.
Yeah I mean, I think it can’t be helped if more idols doing same concept if that concept is on demand. The problem is if a company/group just mimick the outer shell but not really study, appreciate and deliver depth in quality of their music and performance….
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'on the pack of us they follow like a choo choo train" they knew that from the beginning!!
XG debut song Tippy Toes, Maya ‘they follow like a choo choo train’ - they knew 2 years ago 😎
Why are people so stupid how can aespa copy xg if they debuted first with that concept none of the girls copied each other oh my God people are just ugh🙄
@parisgaye2716 facts matter Aespa copying XG😊
in reality, there are only so many concepts to go around, so you will always have duplication, my opinion is XG doing hip-hop is legit, just look at reactions, a ton from people that are into rap and hip-hop are blown away. I watched XG do a 90’s music challenge, they guesed everything from Dr. Dre / Snoop Dog to Erykah Badu. One of Cocona’s favorite artist growing up was Lauren Hill. When she was in grade school, they did a class project, each student did a poster, saying what wanted to do as a career. Her poster said rapper. not a concept, just who they are.
@@parisgaye2716doesn’t mean they debuted first then they won’t copy from someone’s leading and breaking the fashion scene rn🤫
I wouldn't mind cosplaying hip hop if they actually did hip hop good. Hip Hop hard or go home. Some of these hip hop theme idol groups are letting me down because they clearly haven't mastered rap. That should've been the first thing they did before even debuting.
1. it’s really EMBARRAZZING FOR MYs to come for XG when both groups love and support each other l mean we have TikTok to prove this! Them literally coming for XG is so shameful! Alphaz as a Fandom have seriously moved past this cause we know that both Aespa and XG have different concepts and we actually use common sense and while MYs are busy being Hateful XG is literally breaking stereotypes and as a fandom we are just happy with how far our girls have come😍 AIN’T NOBODY GOT TIME FOR HATE
K-pop stan will find any excuses to hate on XG since they can't attack XG on talents, swag, visual, fashion, stage performance, stage presentation, everything under the sun cause they wishes their favs could have less than half of XG talents and swag.
and ill still point out how aespas cb is vv similar to xgs last few comebacks
Xg stan started it ..by saying aespa copied their concept all mys did was remind them . They changed their concept from girlcrush to futuristic after aespa's success
@@BhaktManomandirVihariniUma yea no.... aespa has been successful before xg came on the scene. so xg did nothing to change up after aespas success. dont be delusional
@@cremepuffle than tell that to xg stans accusing aespa of copying their concept.. alien were literally their aespa's dct mv lol..
It's ironic considering that aespa was slandered for plaigarism during black mamba and next level, but MYs conviniently forget that...
@garumachis they're attacking any group with a slight hint of cyber/ sci-fi. Ive got bashed with accendio, and xg with woke up I believe....And hybe groups are getting bashed because mhj said the bsh wanted to crush aespa..... Also, I highly recommend getting off of stan twitter unless you're like me and going there to make fun of peoples' stupidity.
@garumachis Yes, some mys can be toxic but don't get fooled. Some anti mys are doing this by adding aespa members as their profile pic to drag all the hate towards aespa.
And the reason some fans are hating on ive, bp,rv, le sserafim and itzy is because of how fans of these groups dragged aespa through mud during girls era. If u weren’t a fan back then, just know it was BAD. And now suddenly the fans of these otger groups are pulling the victim card when they were giving death threats to the aespa girlies.
@garumachis yes.. Other stans do all these shit and the blame goes towards mys. But when mys get defensive, suddenly we are the bad guys. Hypocrisy.
I may have missed something but I've never seen Aespa have a concept of an furry alien space wolf thing that xg has lol they been doing like that since Shooting Star when Aespa still had the Sims 4 concept
SIMS 4 😭😭
SIMS 4 choke me 😭🤣
Lil gangsta kittens !!! 😂😂😂😂😂 you are too funny
@YN.97 how does baby monster = to bad villain?? 🤣🤣🤣 ... you YG clowns are funny.
What happened to OG alphaz and nate?
@@korn_bjbj4779 Nate seems to have dropped off the face of the earth, curious to know what happened behind the scenes
Yes! From the get go, XG has been staying true to their concept and if they have had their alien outerspace since before Aespa took on this concept . . .Aespa’s fits ( look at their nails in their latest vids ) is such a copy from XG’s style . . So Aespa’s fan’s claims that their idols are original is just pure delulu . .. oh and can I just point out their lyrics in Supernova and Armageddon?! Su su su supernova?! Bang bang chitty chitty bang bang in Armageddon? here they go again . . .repeating syllables in their English lyrics and chanting is so overdone in Kpop
I’ve seen two idols in interviews this last week being asked what group would u want to be in or would suit you to be in if you weren’t ever in your current group or weren’t in the group that u used to be in? Their answer….? ‘’XG.” I believe one of them was from Zerobaseone and the other was Girls Generation
number one is so funny bc the first thing i thought when i saw both supernova and armagedon was "wow this is very similar to what xg is doing" there are similarities between both groups lore but theres no denying that aespas creative team is grabbing directly from what xg is doing. you CANNOT explain the airbrush tats, the eye symbolism, and the invading earth concept, all of which xg has been very obvious about in their past few comebacks. so for aespa stans to flip it around is so so hilarious to me lmao and on sms part its a huge huge effing cop out considering aespa has already been know for being trendy and out of the box, sm taking from other companies is a big shame.
@@yoonsbangsliveinmymindfree im laughing because loona is an old group no one is pulling concepts from them these days. it is okay to admit when groups are sus about their releases. if aespas comeback dropped a month after xgs i wouldnt have said anything! but these releases are back to back and aespa has unique details theyve taken from xg even including the ending credits lmaoooo it is obvious, extremely obvious what they are doing. its not pitting any group together its pointing out very obvious things. and that very obvious thing is that SM obviously likes what simon got going on ffor xg and they want some too. and its a cop out for a company like SM. and id like to point out sm has lost alot of aespas lore along the way.
@@yoonsbangsliveinmymindfree and id like to point out that xg has literally done it first lmaoo.
@@yoonsbangsliveinmymindfreethe odd eye thing is done by many sm group way before loona
@@cremepufflesuperbeing, odd eye is literally sm thing
@@user-cj5tm3te7c they copied the eye from lord of the ring, there end of discussion, go touch grass bye
2:29 and that was how meovv was made…….😭😭😭
Its ironic because when i watched aespa's Armageddon mv, it reminded me of XG concept. Later found out that the mv director of the aespa mv was the same director who was responsible for tgif by xg.
wowwww soo nasty on sms part lmaoo
You knw what's ironic Mys didn't even start this one .. all xg stans were accusing aespa of copying their concept.. and that when mys said your fave had futuristic concept because of aespa's success.. fandoms who start the shit are good at changing narrative lol
@@BhaktManomandirVihariniUma please don't lie. Whenever xg drops something Mys are always there to start shit.
@@24yeffinakawarjri24not lying lol that's true your fandom was accusing aespa of copying them when Armageddon dropped
@@BhaktManomandirVihariniUma lol projection is bad for your health 🤣
On behalf of the K-pop industry, we would like to thank XG and AVEX for saving the k-pop industry AGAIN. We are highly appreciative of XG bringing worldwide attention to non-kpop fans to the K-pop universe. We also like to apologize on behalf of our k-pop stan for having NO idea of what REAL music is and leave toxic comments thinking everything evolved around Kpop or their favs.
XG is not kpop. They’re a global group. Yes they also promote in south korea but they’re not Kpop
@@tatyanna594 you don't understand XG enough. I suggest you watch their documentaries
@@SadSmile7575 that doesn’t change that they’re not kpop. Simon has said so before.
@@tatyanna594 you don't understand what he means. I don't blame you tho.
@@SadSmile7575 anyways
7. 100% agree. I might make this a point in a video or a whole video of its own. In my opinion when it comes to sexualisation by fans, Niki had one of if not the worst fan sexualisations of a minor idol. These women would legit say “I don’t care if he’s 15” which is just horrid. There was also this one TikTok talking about ateez’s crotches during Coachella and everyone else was supporting it and talking about it in the comments. That is just absolutely disgusting. I don’t care how old they are. That is plain disrespectful and disgusting to say about anyone. Especially if it’s a stranger. It’s fine to say that an idol is hot or sexy but you can never start saying how you want them in bed. That’s just nauseating.
That is absolutely 💯 disgusting 🤢. Enjoy these young artist talent. 😳
This is why I'm not on Twitter, sorry "X". It's so fing toxic and fan culture over there is the most prominently out of control!
I have to be honest …I’ve been a fan of #XG when I believed they were an ELITE Dance Crew. Later I seen Teasers for “TIPPY TOES”. After, I watched their debut…people were accusing them of saying they were under YG. The HATERZ just came out of the woodwork. Then I responded to so many Xenophobic comments…I couldn’t believe the TOXICITY, ACCUSATIONS and NASTINESS. I later found out they were Kpop Stan’s. #XG has treated everyone graciously and respectfully. Please support them for being creatively unique. Daily, I’m happy to see #Alphaz growing organically. I’d like to see new people listen to their Artistic and Versatile music. #XG has OG Hip Hop style and sound because they value the music 🎶 and culture. Please take the time to watch the Documentary Series “Xtra Xtra” as it will definitely solidified who they are and what they’re about. 🙆🏻♀️🎶💫🤍🐺
To evaluate their dance, only the debut TIPPY TOES is good, and after that, the quality is severely deteriorated and ruined,
I'm starting to lose my ability to dance!
@@Real-ranchialook at this no life hater, keep showing on every XG's videos & comments, your parents must be so proud lol 😂
@Real-ranchia pity yourself, get a real job bro 😅
Instead of xg copying aespa ,watching amegadonn felt like i was watching xg in some parts
XG and Aespa are my favourite girl groups ever… they’re both so cool ppl just need to learn to enjoy things like bro, good things can co-exist
With your second opinion, I agree. Young Posse is another group that I can't take seriously when it comes to their hiphop/rap concept. It's like an imitation.
영파씨가 가짜 /모조품이라니 ?? ,,,,,,그 근거는???? ,,,,이유를 말을 해달라
@@Real-ranchia you are one of or a combination of:
1) living in your moms basement
2) jobless stuffing your face with choco pies all day
3) employed to hate on XG
Karma comes for people like you. It’s inevitable sooner or later.
On the contrary, YP seem like the closest to being authentic out of the recent debuts (obviously not counting XG! They set the trend). The girls talked about what it means to do Hiphop for them, they write their own bars and their bars are actually quite honest and refreshing. You're free to not like them but they seem and sound like a genuine group to me, obviously as much as it's possible since they JUST debuted.
same. i tried to check them out; xxl is alright, but their music feels like a lot of nct titles, building a song around a random english noun or adjective they pulled out of a hat. that one rapper is pretty good but how tf are they gonna have a song about macaroni cheese and expect me to take them seriously. hope their pds let them do something actually innovative cause they could probably pull it off
@@ithoughtiwascishet1316 I dont think you're supposed to take them seriously. Their title track is always goofy and unserious. The one that hit hard are their b-sides like Scars, ROTY and OTB.
The only block she’s spinning is the one in Minecraft 😭😭😭
@Real-ranchia is a bot account created by a hardcore XG hater. This hater have multiple accounts he use to hate on XG contents.
Yes this acct is a psychotic knetz XG hater. U can tell they have an IQ of 5
6. People need to understand this because seventeen performed in a literal stadium with one of the biggest audiences of 3rd gen but people say it doesn’t count because it was in Japan😵💫
Which is always funny to hear because none of us could every sell out a stadium. I'm not even a seventeen Stan or anything just people be weird.
These XG haters and set ups in the comments need to cut it out…
#1: XG was rocking the alien concept before Aespa did. Aespa only did it after XG released GRL GVNG. #2: XG is the only group that has unlimited knowledge of hip hop, rap, and RnB. XG is the only group that show respect and paid homage to hip hop artists/rappers in their songs and raps. They are student of hip hop. Badvillian is imitating XG and taking the XG formula to a whole new level with no knowledge of what hip hop is.
XG?? ,,,,,,케이팝내에서 아무 존재감을 못 가진다 ,,,,누가 그들을 아는가 말이다
사실은 이들을 아는 한국인은 욕부터 날리거든
헤이,,,,너무 무식하구나,,,,Aespa는 과거에 어느 컨셉의 음악을 한것으로 너는 알고서 말을 하는가???
@@Real-ranchiano you are the ignorant one every time someone brings up XG, you're right there spreading false information not only you stupid you are ignorant too.
@@XAlphaz14 허위 정보의 유포,,조작과 날조는 중단하기 바란다,,
케이팝의 유명한 걸그룹의 과거 음악적인 컨셉을 모르고서 왜 말이 많은가 하는 것이다,,,날조를 중단하라고 !!!!!!
@@Real-ranchiaso??
6. Right, Asia's a continent and I feel like this happens with Africa a lot too, like dumbasses act like it's a country instead of continent.
As a person who’s from New York and is very big on rap music, I’m kinda excited for BadVillian, however, it is off putting when they sing lyrics like “Spinning the block” or when Young Posse did gun shot sounds in their song Posse Up which is such a clear copy of the New York drill mixed with jersey club trend among New York rappers. Like who are y’all pulling up on? 😂 I still like the songs tho
Don't worry, probably one of the Badvillian member might shave her head.. or probably all of them will shave their head. You know the meaning of my comment, right?
@@XG_Ah-Wo0-wOo-WoO if it’s relating to Cocona shaving her head then yeah I get it lol. She looks so good too
@@kayziofficial no you don't get it. Should explain to you on a children level IQ? 🤔
No cus same. Im from the Bronx so my ass listening to this like now what y'all know about guns? It's banned in Korea 💀💀
@@AUGHHHHHBBG LMFAOO FR like I’m a Queens native and it’s so funny to me but I ain’t gon lie some of the songs be bops. Like skyline from Young Posse is too good
Idk badvillain feels so try hard to me
Seventeen tho regularly "get inspired" by others - not only aespa, but Atrez and NCT Dream. I remember feeling like a fool watching a Hello Future 2.0😅
Aespa isn't copying xg, Aespa isnt copying BLACKPINK, Aespa isnt copying ITZY, Aespa isnt copying New jeans, i swear i hear kpop stans say Aespa is copying thsee groups when Aespa has one of the most unique concepts, that is done well. They aren't copying. But also Aespa doesn't own futuristic concepts, lets make that clear. Aespa has had this cool concept since debut, this isn't something they JUST picked up.
AESPA is the most unique and unique among K-pop girl groups, but they share a concept with Dreamcatcher.
If I were to give it a name, it would be the Warrior Girl concept...
The locals keep mentioning that they learned it from XG, but XG is a typical example of an individualistic Japanese person.
This is a case,,,,,
K-pop completely ignores J-pop at this point,,,,The reason is because J-pop has already been ruined.
Moreover, XG is not able to gain presence in the K-pop fandom and around the world,,,
Basically, XG tries to follow YG style passionately,,,
In fact, AESPA pursues a more radical style than YG style.
xg not able to gain traction from the world? lets be really serious now their concerts are sold out everywhere within minutes 😅 @Real-ranchia
@@louvrelicky 하하하,,인기의 척도에서 XG는 심하게 미달 상태 라는 것이다 ,,
그러니 이들이 인기가 없음이 명확하다고 ,,,,그건 실력의 크고 작음 하고도 무관 하다고 ,,,,
케이팝 가수중 실력파들이 낮은 인기로 인해 고전을 하다가 몇년후에 사라져 버리거든,,,그것이 일반적이라고 ,,,,,
ah XG the dance crew
For high notes, I agree, my favourite vocalists are Lia, Haewon and Miyeon. What I love about Haewon is her strong voice rather than her falsetto and what I love about Lia’s voice is when it’s smooth like her cover of “Can’t take my eyes off of you”. Of course I love vocalists like Winter who can break glass with her drama high note but sometimes I prefer the lower voices 🫶🏼
None of them are close to XG's Chisa
@@vmonk2 maybe but this is about MY opinion and favourite voices, not who’s the best vocalist and Haewon is probably as good as Chisa or even better
I died at Little Gangsta Kittens and thug puppies. Instant subscribe!
I also have an unpopular opinion (no hate just an opinion): I actually didn’t like supernova and armageddon but everyone did so I listened again and again but I guess that I can’t force myself to like a song. Did not saw someone with the same opinion as me yet so yeah please don’t hate or be toxic it’s just my own opinion …
2. I mean their name is cringe, but id rather wait for their comeback or more content before forming an opinion on their music. Till now the 'hip-hop' looks "forced".
Their debut* not comeback 😭
@@REI.12-r5f wait- i thought they debuted 💀
I don’t even think their concept is mostly hiphop/rapper based, like listening to badvillain and badtitude highlight medley just doesn’t scream hiphop to me… but again, it’s a ten second clip
@@tsuki4261 they used hip hop as a costume not as a music genre lol 💀
@@iagreewithyou3478What does this even mean 💀 can people not do hiphop now?
3. Agree.. Fans need to know this about songwriting credits : there's hierarchy in songwriting credits, the first being the one who contributed most and the last being the least. So for a song with 8 songwriters, if your idol's name come in at the end, they were barely in the room. Stop overpraising like "his song, written by him" coz its not. This goes for BTS too. Armys just glorify BTS to be "self produced" when in reality (other than rapline) they barely contribute anything. This happened with V from BTS. I see Stray Kids, GIDLE, SEVENTEEN having more control in their work, including songwriting credits than BTS.
Seems to me SKZ claim credit if they aren’t even in the room they are in the same building. Just saying. Churning out jumbled words by anybody isn’t talent. IMO. My 6yr old can force a nonsensical rhyme too. If I bought her a system she could produce also. Congratulations.The rapline is BTS so not sure what you mean by that. Just because anyone can write and produce crap doesn’t mean they should. The song writing/self produced thing has gone too far I think. Self grandiose attitudes towards mediocre outcomes ALL around.
@@R2Mw19 you can form an opinion, but its not the truth. I only said that groups I mentioned have atleast better hand than BTS.
@@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq Right. In your opinion. Like you said, opinions don’t mean it’s true. I appreciate that you are bringing this up but pointing out one group when ALL could do better might have been better. IMO
I don't agree with your statement about BTS not having as much hand on their songs as SVT, SKZ etc. You just showed me that you know little about BTS cus if you actually know them, you would know how involved they are in their music. Just some examples, RM wrote most of spring day lyrics, he's also the one who came up with the melodies, Jhope is the produced dis-ease for himself but ended up doing it with the other members, Suga produced Daechwita with his friend, even V composed the song zero o'clock for himself but ended up doing as BTS. They even go on live, mostly RM, to talk about how they made their songs/album.
It's true that the vocal lines are not as involved tho. But even when they are not the ones writing it or produce or compose it, they are the ones who choose what they want. That is already being involved The rapline??? Girl I think you don't really know them. They are so involved with their music that that was one of the reasons why they were so miserable last year since they felt like they've said it all.
XG rules the universe and are energized by hat ers.
When most of the groups under the company is accused of plagiarism that tells u something about the company
I hope someday hybe will have originality
I mean, Kpop, on the whole, is a bootleg version of Hip hop
Hip hop is a minor genre even within K-pop because it is not popular.
Most girl groups that choose this fail.
2:42 the thing is is that kpop is built off of changing true hiphop to vibe more with the general public instead of actually doing something truly hiphop related.
I loved everything about this video. Even when you talked about groups i liked, you made excellent points.
supernova its dead star and never an alien the alien thing comes from winter because she blahblahed over it and fans made it their whole personality and the photoshoot concept was used by everyone dead or alive fans should really back off abit
G IDLE stans are the worst at throwing around the "self produced" phrase lol. They will NEVER bring up that Soyeon has any help with all the songs. Also they try to act like Minnie and Yuqi are writing every song too when they will only help on 1 or 2 max per album. NO groups are self produced!
Exactly, they just watch videos of soyeon coaching the girls vocals a bit and say soyeon produced it.
Lil' Gang Kittens 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 REAL
had me on the floor
OMGG thank you literally put word on what I was thinking and feeling. From point A to Z !!!
Hey! Cocona is rocking her militar cut now, kind of dissapointed you did not use her new look for the J-pop oppinion.
And about the over sexualization of idols. As a women I think that a flash of abs or a few buttons off are more enticing than the lack of a shirt. In the same way that see trough shirts over bustiers and peeping skirts over ultra short skirts. Insinuation are a lot more interesting that showing and a lot more confortable even to see. And of course I think that it should be only if the idol is comfortable with it and above 20.
They’re just excluding Asian artists because with Afro beats artists they’re included more and are given serious Grammy nominations and Grammy awards, they’re taken more seriously with collaboration too. I think the issue with asian artist
Being taken seriously is that they’re not really “artists” most don’t write, and no creative freedom. I mean every single K-pop documentary produced by western media talks about them being trained machines and coming from a K-pop factory, and to me that terminology makes them come across like uninspired, untalented money making individuals that don’t care much for music. And it doesn’t help that K-pop copies everything the west does as of lately and when you have positions in a group like “ visuals” were your sole purpose is visuals well that’s kinda another reason for the west to not take you seriously as an artist. It’s too robotic
Atleast that’s the vibe I get from general public that isn’t into K-pop. We see this in the way that even paparazzi talks to them (very rude, dismissive)
AS of lately??? Kpop has always copied the West from the VERY BEGINNING lol😂
That first take on Knock off Hip Hop was so hot I could've swore it was fresh off the stove. Idol company's having there artists rapping GANGSTER rap and Drill 2 completely separate rap sub sets, both with styles that accompany 2 very different tales of what "making it out" requires, both as far as removed from the Korean cultural societal experience as can be.... WILL never NOT be the most delulu take from the kpop industry currently. It really is sad because there ARE PLENTY of talented, HUNGRY Korean lovers of hip hop that REALLY adore the genre, truly appreciate it WHO ACTUALLY WANT TO BRING REAL HIP HOP (and all it CAN BE) TO KOREA but the continued pushing of the same misused stereotypes for a cash grab or "statement" DOESN'T go unnoticed, it helps no one and leaves so many who are talented in the genre, who COULD REALLY GROW AND EXPLODE WITH IT OUTSIDE OF KOREA forced to "convert"
Music is "not a screaming competition" its also not about having the stereotypical r&b voice lilting their voice to get weird tones but no skill.
2. "Spin the block block block" BAE...YOU ARE FROM KOREA...
and the Durags.. thats not...
3. Literally this is something I've been screaming about since SKZ and (G)I-DLE's debut.
It's funny because just because people be saying that SKZ isn't self made because it says 3RACHA in the credits.. as if they're not in THE SAME GROUP... and also the other producers in the credits .. like.. they dont just sit there on the side lines and let it all play out. Ofc they're gonna contribute somehow, it's their jobs people.
Everyone has space vibes 😂 everyone is from space or “fallen angels” vampires, bad boys or girls lol it literally all the same they just switch from time to time, as long as money is involved they will never do research on the culture of hip-hop they don’t care
아니야,,,,XG의 근래 발표한 곡은 주로 외계인 테마 이다
XG copying aespa? Thats funny aespa fans feels so threatened because they know that XG will blow up .. watch XG take over the music industry globally..
EVERYONE knows XG slayed on every Korean music shows when they step onto the stage making K-pop stan favs performance looking like a bunch of childrendoing an elementary school play. Aespa just won award on M-net but XG won the public opinion worldwide and Aespa fans knows this.
@@yoonsbangsliveinmymindfree Come on. It's obvious, K-pop stans will attack XG for NO reason because they feel threatened by XG talents and swag.. I know it. You know it. Everyone knows it.
@@yoonsbangsliveinmymindfree my point is, I see you on every comments accusing XG of copying Loona, Aespa, NewJeans, etc..
Hypocritical double standard much?
None of us are threatened lol their fandom started this shit by accusing aespa of copying all mys said xg changed their concept into futuristic after aespa's success
@@yoonsbangsliveinmymindfree I'm not twisting your words. You are literally defending the same people that accusing XG of copying their favs. I'm calling out your double standards.. do you know what double standards means? 🤔
8:30 YES people who say BTS brought Kpop to international are wrong. It was BoA who opened the way as she was the first one to perform in another country (Japan). People gotta stop misunderstanding!!
ARMYS have the habit of giving BTS credit for everything...
@@EverRoxas I understand why they would because BTS surely had a huge impact but if we’re because truthful, they wouldn’t be here without those who were there before 👍🏼
I remember when BoA did her first English album that's how I found out about Kpop that was back in like 2007 or something.
@@momintim ooh that’s so cool
???,,,,,BOA는 일본 이외에서는 알지 못하고 존재감이 없다고 ,,,
그리고 BOA는 케이팝 가수가 아닌 제이팝 가수로 분류를 해야지,,,그러니 케이팝 의 해외로 진출의 사례가 될수가 없다 ,,,,
I just don't get it why people always gotta drag each other down what the flip
pleaaaaseee I 100% agree with the knockoff hip-hop 💀
dude i cannot with the delulu stans ofc every fandom has that side it's so cringe and gross they're a whole nother breed on twt/tt they scare me and I do NOT cclaim those things
Aespa fans began hating on Ateez recently, I saw a tweet that said ‘evil has been defeated’ cause aespa replaced Ateez at number 1. LIKE WHAT. The fact that atinys also helped mys to stream aespa comeback too. They are probably one of the most toxic 4th gen fandoms imo.
It is funny how suddenly everybody knows what real hiphop is... as if the American mainstream "hiphop" is representing the culture acurately and is not criticized for its superficiality.
When it comes to number 6
I agree with everything you said
It’s so frustrating too when you live in a household with parents who are generally more negative towards Asians in general and say that “they are all the same people” like no tf they aren’t, and my parents are also the type of people who keep saying “oh you like those Chinese people?”
I have to correct them everytime and tell them that they are Korean and they get pissed at me for it, i wish things weren’t this way.
Also, XG didn't start with alien concept
Young Posse is probably the only one doing the hip hop thing right. Uh-oh by gidle was also done right too.
oooh boy i'm just waiting for someone to shave their head in a MV!!! oooh boy i want to see that comment section!!!
1. 🤡 are they serious?? I didn't know lmaoo XG was the first doing it not them 💀I'm so glad I wasn't on twitter then I would've been furious 🤣0:47 I remember those days 😂 I'm embarrassed to say that I didn't like them at first and commented a lot that they copied K/DA (I'm a blade so) yeah.. later I liked Giselle so I changed 😙tho it's kinda sad I don't see their virtual concept at all.. I started to like their avatars what happened to them lol. I mean I'm happy for them to blend with the alien concept 👍 not for the fans tho they should learn to do some research 💀
Xg stans started it by accusing aespa of copying if you were on Twitter you would know that lol.. after that all mys said their concept changed because of aespa's success..lol
@@BhaktManomandirVihariniUma like I said I wasn’t there 🤷🏻♀️thankfully. I mean everyone would’ve noticed the similarities I did too and commented but later I did some research and the team behind the MVs was the same one who did GRL GVNG so it all made sense
Aespa is really eating rn but that doesn't mean that they invented what they are doing and MY'S don't get it. They are also over the moon for 'beating nj's records'. Let's calm down alittle
Also about the badvillian one, i low-key agree. They give alittle similar vibes as of young posse to me. They don't feel that authentic. It does give 'school play' kinda vibes. But the girls are talented so im just waiting for their debut.
Let's be real, Badvillian is an clone of XG. Before XG debuted, they released dance videos showing off their dance skills, Badvillian copy that. Sooner or later, Badvillian will released their own rap video just like XG did. Badvillian is leeching off of XG formula and taking it to a whole new level. At least, others XG clones limited their imitation of XG.
it's the way I didn't see a single MY celebrating over "breaking nj's records", instead I've seen MYs and Bunnies getting along very well nowadays. the celebration I saw from MYs was the fact that 'Supernova' was stable on kcharts despite newjeans releasing a new song because newjeans are literally known for being digimons, and bunnies took it has a compliment because they know. Also, 'Supernova' didn't break any particular previous record of NewJeans, it did break records held by other groups tho, so what are you talking about?
@@yoonsbangsliveinmymindfree ikr all we wanted was stability of supernova on chart ..
@@XG_Ah-Wo0-wOo-WoO damn Imagine the "clone" having more talent than the ones they're copying
2:46 No cus can we hve a discussion about some kpop stans saying these hip hop style kpop groups are BETTER than the og-
Like no im not taking koreans talking about shooting someone as if guns aren't illegal in korea and idols talking about hood life but u live in one of the modt expensive places in korea 😭 im tired
BTS and Seventeen are true examples of self-produced groups.
What about skz
@@aswin5151bro , you coul have just left it , why must stay put skz in every topic😭
Only SEVENTEEN, not BTS.
BTS Are self produced babe@@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq
@@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq 🙄🙄🙄🤦🤦🤦🤦
People keep bragging their faves are self produced and write their own lyrics but is it really a flex when lyrics are so bad and make no sense? I don’t think so
5. I mean its in the name itself - K pop and J pop, its pop music in another language, they cannot be whole genres. Unlike Latin pop, Afro beat who has a distinct sound to be labeled as genre, KPOP and JPOP can never be a genre.
KPOP과 JPOP은 음악과 가수에 대한 국적 구분이고 음악 장르 하고는 무관하지
@@Real-ranchia agree
Nooo, I'm actually excited about Badvillain 😭 From their two videos, you can tell they're amazing performers
@@re1ribution ...?
XG's shadow... "Gonna keep ya gonna keep ya on ya tippy toes. Watch the way we move, the way we work, the way we glow. They ain't ready for us, we about to wreck the game, on the back of us, they follow like a choo choo train"
XG straight talking facts on their debute song. They got all these 5th generation K-pop ggs following them like a choo choo train.
@@XG_Ah-Wo0-wOo-WoO so be it 🤷♀️ I'll have fun having both groups' songs
@@ladymoon7327 one group is deeply rooted in hip hop and RnB culture. The other group is a gimmick and imitation with no knowledge of what hip hop is. Can you tell the difference?
@@XG_Ah-Wo0-wOo-WoO QQQQQQQQ,,,,,이봐 ,,,,5세대는 없다,,그리고 케이팝내에서는 대부분 XG를 알지 못하고 관심도 안가진다고,,
Aespa is unique enough. Supernova & Armageddon tracks are down right pironeering.
Yeah I love aespa and xg so bad
Can someone tell me why mys throw a fit whenever some other girl group other than aespa get praised for anything
XG can do whatever they like, their "music" is not kpop anyway😂 if I wanted to listen to rap, I would do so
It’s not about how many notes you can carry, it’s about the quality of your basket. Even if you can carry high notes that doesn’t matter because if your basket (technique) has holes in it you’re going to drop them at one point or another.
…also I thought it was pretty clear that Aespa veered in the alien direction when the ‘NAVI’ thing didn’t pull through? I thought it was a really smart marketing choice! Yes, I did think about XG for all of 10 secs, but they already have such a streamlined image at this point that I find it laughable that ppl are claiming they copied each other.
Damn we have an XG stan ova here =))
Who wouldn’t Stan XG they’re really authentic
@@kittyn.3883 uhm? No?
Kpop stans will say anything is plagiarizing.
3.omg, thank you! So, 3racha, you know them. I saw a youtuber ain't gonna name. Just say look, they have other names on theirs. They got help, so they didn't produce this song, and I said well... no, they did because their names are all over the whole album 5-Star and rock star.
Because someone has one, our two help in a dang song does not mean they did not write the song at all if they wrote and produced and if it says that it says that.
And bangchan and changbin and han have higher credits then them in the song so...
AI noona is cooking 🔥
#4 Fr, stop with "They aren't even up to Ariana standard." Who said they even were...
Woww most of the groups and management need to hear #2!
Don’t forget AO3 platform. That place is next level unhealthy and disrespectful.
Lets be honest XG is that Group!
Okay but belle is the korean ariana grande 🥰😰😍😵
@@re1ribution u lie? Shame shame
You did not just compare A random kpop idol to Thee Ariana Grande
@@singingwhale977 im just sayin what their fans say🧍🏻♀️
@@re1ribution it was sarcasm
I've been an aespa stan for a long time but I've never seen any aliens in their lore😂😂😂 so where is this comming from?
Straightforward***
3 is FACTS
No doubt you really really have to give credit to MHJ for popularizing the word "plagiarism".. there's no news without plagiarism in it nowadays 😂😂
MiniJean has committed an error using the term plagiarism, plagiarism is the sound or melody of the song, and other copies or imitations are not plagiarism
Then what is the full text of the team concept on the theme of astronomy and space??,,,,, loona, Kepl1er, WJSN,,,,
Aespa, shaddap 😤👊
You let XG off the hook. I agree with Bad Villain but they’re brand new and XG has been drowning in African American culture. I like them a lot. As artists they are the bomb but if you’re looking at groups trying to look hood then they’re leaps ahead of BV.
Ok enough with this “you don’t understand my culture” bs. You don’t understand black culture either if you think is just hip hop and guetto culture.
Thug puppies 😂
2. On Badvillain, I’m willing to give them some time mostly bc 1) we finally got a group that isn’t afraid to let the majority of its members out of middle school and 2) I actually really like their debut song. Hopefully we don’t get into XG levels of blackaboo and tone it down for the comeback.
Aespaはエイリアンをテーマにした音楽は限界はなく、、、、、
今回発表した2つの曲もエイリアンがテーマではないよ、、、、ただ天文宇宙がテーマだ、、
以前の初創期発表曲は、人工知能で推定される未知の存在と人類と戦争をテーマにしたコンセプトで記憶が出る
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