The Biggest "Fraud" in Dragon Ball
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ม.ค. 2024
- The biggest Fraud in Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, and Dragon Ball Super is Mr. Satan.
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If you’ve been in the Dragon Ball community for a while you’ll hear a lot of characters get called frauds. Vegetto gets called a fraud for the dumbest reasons. It seems like Vegeta and Gohan fans are having fraud offs on the daily, but we all really know that Mr. Satan is the biggest fraud in Dragon Ball and I wouldn’t have it any other way.
You see Mark here - oh yeah that’s his real name according to Toriyama by the way - is a fraud by the time we meet him, but he wasn’t always that way. He won his first Tenkaichi Budoukai, the 24th, with his own strength and techniques, but that was probably the worst thing to happen to him. Master Roshi entered the 21st Tenkaichi Budoukai to make sure Goku and Krillin gained humility. It was possible that winning their first tournament and receiving the most prestigious victory in martial arts would make them complacent and arrogant when there was still so much for them to learn.
Mr. Satan is the realization of this. His master was dead when he entered his first Tenkaichi Budoukai. There wasn’t someone to make sure he learned this lesson so he didn’t. He became complacent and arrogant. Even if Goku and the others didn’t enter the 25th Tenkaichi Budoukai there were other threats to his title - like his own daughter. Despite him claiming his opponents use tricks to win or seem flashy and cool he’s the one actually using tricks to achieve his victories or avoid defeat. A man who once became world champion through his own merits was now only holding that title with deceit and the help of others. Yet somehow I think he’s also earned the right to keep his title and he also might be the best example of a hero - by Dragon Ball standards.
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First video of 2024 and it's one I've been writing (on-off) since 2020 and most of the edit was done by me so I hope you guys like it! Happy new year all!
Happy new year ig
Happy new year, even though you a bit late lol
Carth how old are you dude
Nice....
Dang the reply section is depressed af
When you realize Mr. Satan has done more to maintain balance in the universe than Beerus. Sheesh, no wonder he's a GoD in Heroes.
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WHAT?
Hol up, AM I READIN THIS RIGHT OR DID I SMOKE TOO MUCH
Proof please
@@fhd-5134 So basically, a guy named Sealas rewrote the history of Universe 6 to make Mr. Satan a resident of that universe's Earth. Then the guy just became strong enough to become GoD of Universe 6. And yes, he is stronger than Xeno Goku and Vegeta.
Final act of heroism? Uhh, excuse me did we forget when he punched Goku so hard he flew back but not so fast he couldn't grab his tractor?
Yeah, I remember that! It was really impressive! I don't know how he does all that stuff, but he is the champ! I will always be a diehard fan of the man who saved us all from Cell!
The dub version of that scene killed me, Goku was just like "ohhhh i forgot my tractorrr...."
Thats a level of ki control out of this world
That's not heroism though...
@@soundrogue4472that what I was thinking too…
Not many people talk about the fact that Mr Satan is one of the only characters in DBZ who never died
Sadly he did die in Resurrection F
Technically the only person that never died was bra
@@mansoorahmed1256 what about kibito and shin?
The yaradrats, or whatever was the name of the teleportation race
They appeared in z and never died (the ones in U7)
@@claudethecat1774 They do die, but on future trunks’ timeline.
I like how this "Fraud" could No Diff 99% everyone in the Dragonball Community
lmao
Probably 100%. Average people are nothing compared to a guy who can pull buses behind him and punch through them with ease.
nahhh i'm beating him grahhhh i trained with farmer with a shotgun
he'd body me so bad 😭 💀
@@rianmela3825 not only that this guy jumped put of an airplane from a high distance and destroyed a bunch of tiles with his bare hands in one fell swoop so yeah he destroys the entire DB community like how madara destroys the Shinobi alliance
Friendly reminder if Mr. Satan were real that he'd be the strongest guy on Earth. He can smash through concrete with ease, move multiple busses and can take one hell of an ass beating. He'd beat prime Mike Tyson through sheer durability
That is what makes me question if he is comic relief or just a reminder of how much of a joke normal human strength is compared to the db cast
He is fictional for reasons
@@ScorchcoreBoth.
@@Scorchcore Exactly. Stuff like that USED to be impressive, but we, as an audience, have been well trained at this point to know what is supposed to be impressive in this franchise now that breaking through concrete or multiple buses, impressive human feats, don't mean anything to someone who could do that with barely a push.
@@Scorchcore yes.
But he “killed cell” I even saw it at the tournament in the buu saga
People also forget about this, but he saves the earth one more time when he kills beebus, defeating an actual God. I know who my goat is
@@OneeUp1 The film has even better acting than the Star Wars sequels
@@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 I wish they kept the voices they had tfs do for it in the dub of Kai, sadly the only part left of it in the official release is lani in his krillin voice telling the audience to buy the movie at the gift shop. Though I do think the full version can be found somewhere on TH-cam.
The announcer guy even said so on ZTV! What do you mean he was a fraud back then?!
0:33 Minor mistake, Roshi was literally in the crowd of the tournament that’s actually his cousin Jackie Chun, I dunno where this misconseption comes from because Roshi LITERALLY wears glasses and Jackie Chun has a full head of hair.
i wonder what would happen if he entered the TOP because he blew up the moon, clearly since he’s the only one shown to do that he’s above the strength of Goku and Jiren who haven’t done the same
thing. 🤷♂️
bro did you not pay attention, that was someone else pretending to be roshi and he made the whole cousin thing up
@@monsterboi2911 Nah man, they're *clearly* two different people, just like Bruce Wayne and Batman!
@@professorintheworks382 piccolo also blew up the moon during the saiyan saga of dbz
@@SpectroliteDS2400 LITERALLY!!!
There’s no possible way that the legendary Mr. Satan could ever be a fraud! Remember that time when he beat Cell?
I remember, I saw it on TV
Don't forget when he beat Beebus
I also remember how he told us he defeated (be- something) by turning his hair blonde
Cell was no match for him...
Dude he's so overpowered. Easily the strongest character in fiction
Hercule did a successful Talk no Jutsu on Buu, but that Gunman had to ruin it.
Naruto VS Satan: Gotta friend em all
I've honestly think I've gained a new appreciation for Mr. Satan. Back when I first got into DBZ in 2013 I honestly really hated Mr. Satan for taking Gohan's credit, and his gimmicks irritated me back then. While he's by no means my favorite character, I've grown to think of him as amusing and considering how he's paid back Goku's family and his concern for Buu I've grown to enjoy him.
he doesnt deserve all the hate. i think its refreshing to see a human every once in a while, its a nice change of pace from the crazily powerful aliens threatening to destroy earth or something.
He didn't just "pay back" their family.
He is LITERALLY a part of the family now.
i see
so true
I feel like most people who first watched z or kai really didn’t like mr. Satan when they first watched the series, but as they got older began to appreciate him more.
Ironically Mr Satan was the closest to actually stopping Buu
Technically he did
I mean, he did stop Buu. Delaying Buu the way he did by befriending him, surviving the extinction attack because of that friendship, and then convincing the world to give the energy it took to put down Kid Buu. If he weren't there Buu would have won at so many steps.
Temporarily, he did. Fat Boo was basically reformed until those two asshole gunmen came along and caused the birth of Evil Boo.
@@najadamu2724 then he did save the world by convincing people to raise their hands for the spirit bomb
@@najadamu2724 To be honest, it's hard to even call them asshole gunmen letting it sink in how much Buu actually did to the world at large. They might even have become assholes because of Buu or might be looking for a path to redemption through taking down Buu.
Well Mr Satan did own up and secretly paid Goku for taking all the Credit.
And he also saved Earth by easily convincing Earth to give Energy for Goku to Defeat Kid Buu.
yeah, he's good
Also he's already rich to need more money so he gave it to Goku instead
@odakidakida9193
Yes. And also said Vegeta turned it down... Then again, he's married to the richest family on Earth. So Goku was compelled to take it. Give good funding for his family so he can train for potentially stronger foes.
Yep. Then chi chi spent pretty much nearly all of it
@@lewisgrant7622
She only feigned that later to get him to do more work.
As the strongest human, Mr.Satan fought back against the fraud, "Beerus", he charged his ki.
Beerus struck back in fear, and Mr.Satan said:
"Stand proud Beerus, you're strong."
Mr. Satan isn’t a fraud!!! he defeated Cell and some other guy 7 years after who i can’t seem to remember!!!
I even bough his book! That was too much money to be disbelieved.
Hahaha very fun, if anything he should have the words "Liar" and "Fraud" across his forehead
@@blddemn6645 oh yeah? any proof denouncing the champ? because there’s no way some preteen with daddy issues and a blonde hill billy could have beaten cell. also, he asked us for our energy!! obviously he beat them.
@@NeedyBoBeedy dumb jokes aside he's still a fraud that deserves to be hakaied by Beerus
@@blddemn6645wdym??? He literally saved the entire universe from kid Buu by getting the humans to give their energy to goku
The fact that buu agreed to stop being evil for Mr. Satan means that Hercule saved the world for a few minutes and if those guys didn’t kill buu’s dog that would have been the end of the buu saga
"I hope none of you relate to being a genocidal space pirate!"
You'd be surprised how many people worship pre-Buu saga Vegeta. He didn't grow on me until Super.
I think it's less being able to relate and more just being entertained by Vegeta. Like he's a prideful to a fault, arrogant, rude, and has a staggeringly high body count, but damn if he doesn't say and do the coolest shit, lol.
There is nothing wrong with being a genocidal space pirate, pirates and genocide are bad but space is good, soo good that it makes the concept good as a whole.
Well tbf Vegeta kept getting his ass handed to him pre-buu.
@@HitoshuratdnThat's beacause of the thumb pose
@@Las_croquetoak_de_Txapote He truely is super vegeta
His actions during the Buu saga totally redeemed him, is one of the most memorable moments of the entire series
mr satan giving goku the prize money proves that he isn't a fraud just a misguided person
And yet he has the entire city thinking he defeated cell, buu, and beerus, he's still a fraud
@@blddemn6645 didn't buu get erased from everyones minds and mr satan saved vegeta and got goku the energy for the spirit bomb is he didn't just do nothing there.
@@creepercalvinPlus he intervened on his friend's behalf a few times in his fight
Yes. And him coming to terms that what he witnessed wasn't light shows and tricks. These are fellas that are able to weaponize their life energy to make those various blasts and techniques and have planetary-level and beyond power output and endurance as well.
Yeah, and his reputation and status is actually a big help for Guko and the rest, he can redirect people's attention to him while Guko and others can have low profile and hide from the public eyes. In exchange, Mr. Satan is protected especially because of his unity to Guko through his daughter's marriage to Gohan.
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In short, we don't appreciate this man enough. Most of the Z fighters like Goku and Piccolo do though, and they acknowledge Mr. Satan not cause he's strong, but because he's HIM. He's willing to step up when the people need it, even without ki control or alien biology, no android modifications and no infinite energy. In the end, he's really just him.
The only actual normal human that could be useful in all ways
Without bro, cell saga and buu saga would have been completely different
I will always love Mr Satan, his English voice is just iconic.
Whenever a create a character option is available in any sort of fighting game, he is always my go to. Mark “Hercule” Satan is the embodiment of modern day wrestling.
Except bro is actually him. He can break concrete and move multiple busses. He would beat prime Mike Tyson and any other real human no-diff.
@@projekttaku1Without ki, he'd whop anyone. ANYONE. His feats are raw muscle.
The dub voice actor is Chris Rager.
@@WilliamDearthwd also voiced one of my favourite borderlands character mr. torgue
AFAIK his name is Mark, because in japanese that would be written Maaku, anagram for Akuma meaning, i think it was, Devil.
To keep the theme name with his daughter (Also an anagram for Devil, but in english this time)... and i kinda like that.
Yep you’re correct!
I like how pan also keeps in line with the naming scheme a bit, being a pun in two ways, with pan meaning bread in some languages sticking with how a lot of dragon ball characters are named after food, but pan is also the name of a character in Greek mythology who was a bit of a trickster and trouble maker.
Pan is spanish for bread@@corruptcamerupt2344
@@corruptcamerupt2344 I remember tvtropes calling Pans name, Toriyamas crowning achievement on punny names.
Mark turning Majin Buu into good being inadvertently saved the Earth in the Moro Arc. Without the Great Lord of Lords appearing to Uub to give Goku the God energy, the planet eater would have won.
In the battle of the Strongest Man in History (Monaka) vs the Strongest Man of Today (Mr Satan)
Satan used his Domain "Ryoiki Tenkai, Infinite luck"
Monaka shrunk back in fear, then Satan said
"Stand Proud Monaka, you're strong"
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Remember he shows bravery in Super as well, in the anime he steps up to join the TOP, albeit he forgets he’s not that strong by comparison. For a split second he does genuinely seems to want to join before Goku tells him it’s a battle of the strongest.
Goku: "Everyone else has got Ki"
Hercule: "Aight I'mma head out"
This video highlights why Mr. Satan is one of my favorite characters. He isn’t strong like Goku and Vegeta, but he’s just as much of a hero as they are. He has flaws, but at heart he is a good guy that cares for his daughter and the people around him. While I have some issues with the Buu Arc, I loved seeing Hercule get closer to Buu and the dog, as well as him helping save the day at the end. He isn’t perfect (Only Cell is /j), but he isn’t a bad person. He may not have Ki control, but he’s a promising Martial Artist if he won the 24th Tenkaichi Budokai fair and square. He may be overconfident, but he’s willing to swallow his pride if it means saving the day. I just hope future chapters of the DBS Manga keep the charm of the character.
Also, during the Kid Buu fight, be literally goes on to fight Buu himself when Fat Buu Is In danger.
If Kid Buu just moved a finger too fast, Satan was done, but he did so to protect his new friend.
Fraud? Did you forget he litteraly beat Cell AND Buu? Geez, DB fans really didn't watch the show
He didn't beat cell or buu
@@user-cs6mf2ok5t mods, rearrange his molecular structure so he can understand what a joke is
@@Calmtimer that is the best "r/woooosh" variation I've read in my life
@@crosswegan1543 🗣🔥
@@Calmtimerdon't forget he also beat Beebus
-He threw Android 16's head next to Gohan, making him unlock SSJ2 and save the world
-He saved the Z Warriors a lot of time while he was friends with Fat Buu
-He convinced the Earthlings to give their energy to Goku
-He saved Vegeta from the Genki Dama/Spirit Bomb's explosion
He literally saved the Universe
Mr Satan just does the first thing that comes to his mind and that's why he's such a great character. not only does he have a massive ego and is way to confident in his abilities but hes also the first to make a decision no matter how risky to him that decision is.
I feel confident in saying that Mr Satan is the character that threw the least when it mattered. He always did his best to contribute with whatever cards life dealt him.
I'm pretty sure if he was ever given Z warrior level of strenght, he would easily be tied with Piccolo as the "most reliable" fighter.
I can’t lie Mr Satan is one of my favourite characters in the entire series and I can’t explain why
the embodiment of " fake it till you make it " in the anime
Mr satan is like King, except he traded a tiny bit of luck for strength
Difference is in OPM, fighters don't know reality of King, but DBZ fighters know Satan is weaker
Nah King is like Mr Satan.
Off topic but i love how bro really got a "Um... hi?" Quotation bubble as a light irl LMAO
4:32
That was amazing. It is quite interesting that how a cowardly champion wannabe went through his redemption arc in Dragon Ball. I wonder how other characters were.
Also, I had a what-if idea: Beerus NEVER went to sleep in 39 years.
WI Beerus knew of Goku and his future friends' (not time travel) potential and Zeno's future decision of erasing low mortal-level universes; and decided to have them trained earlier?
@@773Spair Yeah, that would be interesting
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@@773Spair No problem
This video reminded us how important Hercule was, but we just choose to forget it.
Both of the penultimate enemies of Dragonball Z, would have been unstoppable without the few small actions made by Hercule.
I never thought he was weak, but did underestimate how useful he was to the Z-Fighters. He deserves his title aa the Champion of Earth... especially since the only stronger opponents are aliens 😂.
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seeing a character be a lot weaker than everyone around them just hits different in every story writting. mr satan is epic! wish they would do more with him in the series.
Carthu videos always make me choke up. What a banger
Hercule isn't the hero we wanted,
But the hero we needed.
This was an incredible video, so well written and laid out. I can't wait to see what else you have coming up this year
I like to think an honest autobiography of Mr Satan would look like some lovecraftian novel full of beings too powerfull to be understood, shattered reality and apocalyptic situations getting mundane...
This is why I love your channel Carthu! You always hit the nail right on the head, seeing a lot of deep meaning that many do not pick up on. :)
Yooooooo I’m might be sleeping when this comes out
Im loving this uploads man, keep up the good work
My friend's brother can't watch or speak of DB because of his name.
I definitely relate to being a genocidal space pirate
You and me both bro!! 😂
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Awesome video man, end the Hercule slander! I’d love to see a similar style video for High-school Gohan/Great Saiyaman, considering much like Hercule, he gets so much flack despite actually being some of my favorite character writing in Dragon Ball Z. Gohan finally gets to be a kid, and manifests it by playing superhero. It’s honestly pretty great, imo.
Truly, your videos are SO GOOD! You have earned yourself another subscriber. Good luck on reaching 1 million!
Thank you so much
Honestly what makes Mr Satan such a hero is that, in the midst of literal gods and gods among men, he is just a mostly normal dude. He's very strong by normal people's standards, but he at the end of the day is just *a guy* and as you stated he still manages to work up the courage to do his part when most people would hesitate or be completely frozen in fear. His true power is his ability to be normal but still be willing to do what must be done for the good of others, even with his normally cowardly and vain nature.
Carthu is so persuasive that he could literally convince us that ribrianne is one of the best characters in dragon ball
Always love it when new Carthu drops
How is your voice so high-pitched? That's wild
Mr. Satan was also instrumental in DragonBall GT. He, with the help of Good Buu, saved Pan from Baby as the parasite infected Earth. And she later helped Goku come back to his senses.
You are genius CarthusDojo you explained it very we'll.
Love these videos
Love your videos keep the good work up
Mr Satan is no human, he is a deity from some other Universe...come to think of it, we never got a Mr Satan origin story
The truth is, he is secretly keeping an eye on the Z warriors, and instead of finishing the fights himself, he pushes the main caste to do so, while he keeps acting like an idiot...
He is doing it to create the "Strongest Pure-hearted warrior"...and one day he'll reveal his true self...that day we would witness the legendary battle between Satan and Goku
I think the real Ultimate Showdown is Satan vs Farmer with Shotgun
@@LegendaryCaptain hmm 🤔 this is something to think about
That farmer was shot by a bullet, the bullet squashed on his head, but it didn't penetrate his head...
Man is secretly a powerhouse as well
Mr. Satan is like Merus--an angel in disguise. Hahaha
That's actually one of the things I like about early Super: the Z-Fighters use Mr. Satan as a cover so they can live relatively peaceful lives, Mr. Satan gives Goku the reward money for the heroics he takes credit for, and his credibility with the world gets people to evacuate from dangerous situations so the Z-Fighters can fight without worry.
Dude your critical and literal analysis is so good. You're really talented and articulate! How'd you get these skills?
i never thought of it that way, it gives me a new perspective of mr.satan as a whole
But Mr. Satan Never Died In The Series Tho 😈
frieza exploding earth
@@Bane_First sorry dearie, but we all who have watched the movie or show know that Whis uncanonized that event.
I want to thank you for this video in particular. I love all your videos but this one was made especially for a character most people would throw away or brush off as filler. My best friend, brother, and I were pissed when Goku saved “Hurcle” (lol )and Dende. We all felt Vageta words to be true. Boy how wrong were we all!
A poor writer would have introduced a character like this as filler just to annoy the people. But a great writer introduces characters to push the story further and with an amazing payoff towards the end. That’s exactly what we all got from Mr. Satan throughout his journey.
I thank you from my heart for this video
Thank you!
There was also the time when kid buu was going to kill an injured good buu and Mr Satan taunted kid buu into a fight to pull his attention away from good buu. Mr Satan reasoned he would likely die as he built up the courage to do so but said “Fine. So be it.” in the dub.
Childhood is hating Hercule
Adulthood is realizing Mr. Satan is the greatest character Toriyama ever made.
Mr. Satan survived Cell kicking the shit out of him and Kid Buu doing his usual Kid Buu activities, this places him above Saiyan Saga characters bare minimum as much as I hate to admit it
7:12
Other people: *listens*
Me: *focuses on buu eating the dog food*
Bro of course this releases the minute I'm aboutta go to bed
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He literally beat Cell how is he a fraud SMH
Gohan ?
I'm always wondering why everyone assumes Mr Satan is viewed as weak among the fandom. He's usually viewed as barely above a normal human. Strength wise i view him as a throwback to the martial artists from the OG Dragonball. Basically him being any final 8 tournament competitor. (80-200 power level) he's weak by current power levels but compitant based on normal standards.
I'd like to see him vs King Chappa, who was not only an ex-champion but whose character design is just "Mr Satan but Black"
@@pattersong6637 most likely any fighter who is non Ki using would be a good matchup for him. Thinking about it at least the Dub Mr Satan i think mentioned spoavirch (the guy videl fought) was a joke in the last tournament. Or wasn't that strong in the last tournament.
I think most people just see him as a joke character. While he is most people use that as he doesn't know what he's doing. I just assume that he knows what he's doing in Z bits just in way over his head. Hell he at least tried to help against Buu after seeing what happened in the cell games.
I view him as basically hulk hogan and not in a good way
Dawg these videos are so good, what else do you got coming up?
more is coming idk what specifically is next though 😤
@@CarthusDojo ill be there anyways boss 😏
It was worth it watching when Carthu talks about the show. I'm glad to be his subscriber
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Bro from all the youtubers i know ... you are one of my favorites ... It's so amazing how you explain stuff and how good your videos are ❤❤
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Glad you like them!
Dude, this was a great video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Joke's on you. I, too, am a recovering genocidal space pirate
You can see the inspiration of King from One Punch Man coming from here, the aspect and theory applied is the same
A fraud that became a legitimate hero through indirect means.
I do love how Buu was so influenced by Buu that he literally shot out his evil so he wouldn't rampage. And that the first thing the evil Buu did was kill the people who hurt Mr. Satan and the puppy.
That was emotional. Good work
I would love to see the arc where he would train with Master Roshi and/or Korin, just to at least back up some of his claims
This is one of the best videos you've ever made
2:09 I do think that this is the reason why i think Vegeta is literally me
Even if he's a fraud, Hercule still gave people hope during the last days of the Cell Games
This video actually made me tear up, I just enjoy hearing people say good things about characters that are “hated” or “joke characters” idk
I can’t wait for this ngl
2:11 they don't know me son( laugh in david goggins)
Nice work og, keep it up
will do 🤝
As a genocidal space pirate myself, I would like to say that vegeta is my most relatable character
Great video
Great video as usual
Happy new year
What is the sound track during Satan trying to kill buu here?
Nice analysis and nice presentation!
Need more videos like this
NGL that was beautifully done. Also hits the whole thing home that at the beginning of Super (at least the anime; idk about the manga) Mr. Satan also gives money to Goku that was given to him due to his perceived role in finishing Buu. He still has his moments but he's clearly quite self aware of his place.
Have you done any video on the gray majin buu?