I love how the "where is he?" Is exactly what is said in man of the house (which is quite ironic considering these men were trying to kill him in HIS house. He is the MAN of the house which also could correlate to the line 'when does a man become a monster'. Changing him from the man of the house to the MONSTER of the house.)
I hope Ares got the bloodshed he wanted, Athena did not lie. It's really cool how odysseous essentially became the cyclop's killing the intruders mercylessly. After dealing gods, witches, and giants against which he could do little, he finally was able to show off his power and slaughter all of em. It's really animated, as usual, and I liked the scene at the end with telemachus, I don't think another animatic has done that part yet. Good job!
Thank you! And yes, Ares wanted bloodshed, so I let the blood flow on this one. And you're right, he became ruthless like the Cyclops. And I could be wrong, but as of this writing, this is the longest (king) Odysseus animatic out there and the only one so far to include Telemachus. Thanks again for watching and for the support!
I realized there's double meaning with the inclusion of "If I fight these monsters, is it you'll I'll find?" Telemachus originally wanted to go out and fight monsters in the hopes he would find his missing father among them, fighting them. Little did he know his father is now among them because he IS one of them, only he is now the monster.
“I see your palace covered in red, faces of men who had long believed you’re dead, I see your wife with a man who is haunting, a man with a trail of bodies.”
“You know boys, all this time I’ve been agonizing over throwing away my humanity and becoming a monster and if I had the will or not. But here I find you all plotting to kill my son and brutalize my wife and suddenly it’s the easiest decision I’ve had to make through this whole damned voyage.”
It's insane how, for the suitors, Odysseus is their Scylla ("he's aiming for the torches!"). I mean, from an outsider perspective, he is the stuff of nightmares - a battle-hardened, cunning warrior, trained by a goddess, who refuses to die even in the face of gods and monsters. He's suffered and sacrificed so much in order to get back to his family and kingdom, and YOU are the only thing left in his way? BOY.
I just realized something. "He's aiming for the torches". It's not the first time he used torches to kill. it's like Scylla where Odysseus used the 6 torches to give to the men for Scylla to kill
I'm obsessed how the chorus is chanting "Odysseus" like they were with the name of the gods in past songs, now Odysseus isn't in danger anymore, HE IS THE DANGER
Nah, its not the gods. Its like Polyphemus in Survive. He has become the monster. In the official live streams, they even subtitle the chanting of Polyphemus's name the first time it happens.
0:15 I hope the suitor keeps his accent because it shows how people from all over came to Ithaka,not because it’s a great kingdom(It really isn’t there’s nothing but hills and goats) but because everyone wants a taste of the beauty that is Penelope.
JORGE IS THE WORST /pos SCYLLA SAYING “You’re the same, you and I” WHILE SHE WAS ATTACKING MEN WITH TORCHES AND NOW THE SUITORS SAYING “Keep your heads down he’s aiming for the torches!” AHHHHH
I love how Odysseyus learns and uses something from every challenge he hides the weapons so they can't get the upper hand like polyphemus he makes sure to fight him in his own terrain like poesidon so there helpless he pretended to be an old man an deceives them like circe and the sirens and ofc he aims for the torches like scylla
Because he is the greatest monster of them all. I am honestly unsure what the moral of the story even is, Ulysses is very unlikeable in the whole opera.
I agree, and normally I like stories with hero’s, but I don’t think there’s a moral we’re directly being told here. it’s a tragedy. A villain/monster origin story. You’re supposed to /think/ about the questions. Did he ever have a choice between blood and blood? Who’s mistakes are the worst?
I just watched the Wisdom saga and after listening to "Legendary" and "Fight little wolf" I had to see those lowlifes go to the underworld by the hands of Odysseus. I can already feel how angry I'm going to get during (probably) the next saga when I listen to "Hold her/him down" part.
I love how in legendary we have „Where is he, where is the man who you’ll have wife. where is he, where is the man, with whom you’ll spend your life.“ And here we have the terrified „where is he“ (as in where is he hiding)
spoilers, or well, somewhat i guess from what i can find (through wiki), and what storywise makes sense through snippets jay has given next saga would be vengeance, focusing much more on Odysseus heading home Hold him down is during The Ithaca saga, portraying the Suitors plan to attack Telemachus when he comes home, also being Song 37, leading right up to the utter enjoyment the full version of this will bring
"I see your palace covered in red Faces of men who had long believed you're dead I see your wife with a man who is haunting A man with a trail of bodies" hits different after this
Not just against professional soldiers in the largest war ever known to the greeks at this point, but also against monsters and gods. When you've survived Poseidon and Zeus's wrath, a bunch of soft spoiled nobles' sons are nothing.
The damned audacity to say they can use their knowledge of his home. After what they were planning, they deserved the monster. Like that’s just a damned insult after all this man has been through.
similar to what the siren did to Odyessus using the face of his wife to lure him into the water, these men tried to "we know these halls" forgetting ODY BUILT IT he may have been away a LONG time but ODY is a WAR GENERAL
This was absolutely amazing and i loved how you kept Odysseus hidden in the shadows and all we saw was his silhouette running around until he is revealed in the center 👏
@@Lord_megatron-b8b mostly nameless suitors of Penelope's but one of named suitors, Anphinomus is featured at the end. He was one of the more decent ones in the myth and convinced the others not to kill Telemachus. Odysseus tried to tell him to escape but he chose to stay and ultimately died.
Favorite part of the song is "Keep your heads down, he's aiming for the torches!" Bc thats exactly what Scylla did to his men in the darkness of her lair ❤
I feel that Odysseus uses all the he has learned on his long journey. There's one version of the story, by Tony Robinson called 'Greatest Hero of them All' and when Odysseus comes home and wins the archery contests and reveals to the suitors who he is, while most panic, one, a distant cousin, makes a contrite apology, and approached Odysseus with his hand out, asking for forgiveness and mercy. (but secretly the suitor has concealed a knife in his other hand and plans to stab Odysseus once he's close enough. But Odysseus says 'Ruthlessness is mercy upon ourselves." Shoots the suitor dead where he stands, and as his hidden blade tinkles to the floor he looks upon the other cowering suitors, notches another arrow to his bow and asks: "Any last words?"
@@matthewgarcia1005 hmm, I didn't notice I'll have to give another listen 🤓 just really enjoy how dark and elegant this story is at the same time, and Epic is doing an incredible job of telling it.
And Odysseus is using his bow likely after completing Penelopes challenge (which has a crazy draw weight or something) So the suitors are basically being shot with something comparable to a ballista instead of a bow
@@mathwey3136 too be more specific, the theory is that its A recurve bow hence their inability to string it, and oddyseus's ease of stringing it, despite being fairly average in terms of strength
@@Emily12471 I,am not some lore master on it, but it is mythology. So i think fact odysseus can draw it is more of a part of myth like "only worthy ones can." it is not unused thrope in myths
I love the parallels between Odysseus and Scylla, here. Both concealed themselves in darkness and aimed for the torches in order to kill the men invading their home. Scylla saw him for what he was, a monster just like her.
I noticed that the trail of bodies are similar to the same bodies in the "No Longer You" video when "A trail of bodies" is mentioned by the prophet. It's a brilliant to show what's to come!
I just realized after listening to Scylla, and I'm not sure this was on purpose or just coincidence, but him going after the people with the torches is just like scylla who went after Odysseus' crew who had the torches. In a way he learned from his past encounter and became more monstrous.
"He's aiming for the torches." "Deep down you know that we are the same.." Does that remind you of something? (Bro mb I did not know someone alr mentioned this ngl) 💀
I really like the predator vibes. Advantages means nothing if the equivalent of batman had to fight everything with disadvantaged. He knows the art of war And the red in his eyes as he meets his son in a green tunic. He gets snapped out of his bloodlust by the contrast, his battle mentality being stopped
Thank you! I was really going for Ody being a hunter/predator and yes, Predator (movie) was one of my inspirations along with Jaws, where we actually don't see the killer until midway through the movie.
here we see odysseus, a man who has lost 599 men, who sent 6 to their doom knowingly, who chose the deaths of all his remaining men... a man so far gone he can hardly be called a man as opposed to the monster he now is... and you truely brought it to life!
It's ✨Magic✨JK actually my first draft had him running around in the rafters and dropping in in the middle of the circle but that would make too much noise so I just put him there in the middle like he was there the whole time.
One thing I love is that in many animatics it's the one who warns the others that Oddiseas's plans for every fight that is killed. He killed the one who wasn't panicking.
I chose to have the one who was sorta cocky be killed off by Odysseus first. But most importantly, Odysseus targeted the ones carrying torches.....just like Scylla.
The fact that Telemachus is the only one who have colour-and no ordinary color, green colour! (opposite/complementary to red) Not only does the movement of the characters felt so alive, or the fact the situation you put made so much sense here. But also the amount of detail and use of colour as lightning and highlight of the Story as a way of storytelling!? Incredible!
Thank you! Although it was mostly coincidence. Telemachus's color has been decided before I made this animatic, since I gave Ody blue, Penelope yellow, and combined, they make green (Telemachus). I like to think of it as Telemachus in green represents life amongst a sea of death (blood red). And thank you for your observations! You're the first one to point out the use of lighting and color combined so I really appreciate it that you noticed!
It took me until now to realize it, but I bet you that "he's aiming for the torches" means that they're making themselves easy targets by carrying torches around, rather than Odysseus shooting the torches to turn out the lights.
See, that's a more scary thing to imagine than Odysseus aiming for the shadows moving under the torches. They need torches to see and navigate around the palace, he doesn't, he needs the torches to spotlight his enemies. Knowing the halls doesn't even hold a candle to building the freaking palace the halls are in.
@@ns2dstudios Yes! That was some *clever* storytelling! And then of course the bit with Eurylochus having a torch was spot on. I may be a tad bit obsessed with Epic... XD
I realized that in "no longer you" he talks about Odysseus's casle being covered in red and a trail of bodys and that means its still Odysseus just that he's a monster and a killer, a killer who kills teh suiters infront ofhsson by acadent.
in no longer you’s second chorus, there’s a chanting choir that states what’s gonna happen in the future after the underworld saga. the chants go as follows : “ SI REN SONG SCY LLA THROAT MU TIN Y LIGHT NING BOLT FIGHT PO SEI DON KILL ALL THE SUI TORS FOR LOVE” these were officially recognized by jorge after the thunder saga released, with only the first four being confirmed, since he didn’t wanna spoil the next few sagas. the second two are pretty prominent though so it’s easier to make out what it says. there is another chant sesh during the stretched out “youuuuuuuu” where they chant the same way they do in this song “ODY SSE US ODY SSE US”
@@danganidotit makes a lot of sense that he was willing to confirm that when he did. By that point, we’d already gotten past the parts of that which really qualified as spoilers, at least as far as protecting how exactly it would play out. Beyond that, the fact that this version of the story was heading towards a Poseidon showdown was both obvious and not hidden at all in the snippets we’d received over time, and the suitors getting slaughtered is just the ending of the Odyssey. It would be a pretty huge departure for that not to be expected, particularly with the clear intention of Ody’s character development to prepare him for that.
this is the one and only time i have ever seen someone aknowledge the "if if fight these monsters is it YOU ill find" i thought i lost it for a few days
My best guess is Ody heard the suitors plotting nefarious things against his wife and son and it's what drove him to become a monster. Thanks for watching!
Just a little fun fact: the reason they make a point of saying "Our weapons- they're missing!" isn't just because they're missing normally. In the Odyssy, Athena turns their weapons aside when they try to throw spears at Odysseus and co.
I love the way Odysseus is targeting the ones with the torches the same way Scylla did with his crew. It's like she said, "We're the same you and I." Also, the way this is animated is reminding me of the intro to "Batman: the Animated series," which feels fitting since Ody's got the prep time and is striking from the shadows.
That's because he did. The suitors basically spoke loudly about their evil plan within ear shot of Odysseus. Dude had all the time he needed before the suitors took action.
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I love how the "where is he?" Is exactly what is said in man of the house (which is quite ironic considering these men were trying to kill him in HIS house. He is the MAN of the house which also could correlate to the line 'when does a man become a monster'. Changing him from the man of the house to the MONSTER of the house.)
Awesome insights and observations, thank you! Actually, I haven't listened to the "Man of the House" song yet so I might just do that right now!
@ns2dstudios 1st) thank you so much for the compliment! 2nd) so sorry if this comment was abit of a spoiler!
@@acequeenofthedeck8431 No worries, I don't mind being spoiled
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who noticed that.
@@acequeenofthedeck8431It’s already my favorite part of the song. I love recontextualized choruses/melodies like that and this one sounds so good
I just realized he's aiming for the torches like scylla 😬
"we are not so different..."
Being a monster is easy when you've learned from the best.
„We are the same you and I“ ~ Scylla
"WE ARE THE SAME YOU AND I~"
"We are the same you and I..."
He takes out 4 visibly and knowing Jorge when it comes out he’s going to take out six specifically in the official video
Ares giggling and kicking his feet in excitement because he got the bloodshed he's been promised
Remember what Athena said to Ares
He Really did made everyone bleed
To get back to his homestead, he'll make everybody bleeeeeeeeeeeeeed!!!!
Anyone here after the vengence saga?
After seeing what happened to poseidon, its safe to say, the suitors are ROYALLY SCREWED
@@Ishansciencechess YES, i’m so pumped for the Ithaca saga!!
Bro same I am so excited @jillenteen
yuppie guppy
THERE COOOKED BRUH- 💀💀
Ody: I’m home from the war!
Penelope: ODY HELP
Ody: BACK TO THE WAR
I hope Ares got the bloodshed he wanted, Athena did not lie. It's really cool how odysseous essentially became the cyclop's killing the intruders mercylessly. After dealing gods, witches, and giants against which he could do little, he finally was able to show off his power and slaughter all of em. It's really animated, as usual, and I liked the scene at the end with telemachus, I don't think another animatic has done that part yet. Good job!
Thank you! And yes, Ares wanted bloodshed, so I let the blood flow on this one. And you're right, he became ruthless like the Cyclops. And I could be wrong, but as of this writing, this is the longest (king) Odysseus animatic out there and the only one so far to include Telemachus. Thanks again for watching and for the support!
Yeah he did get his bloodshed
"He's aiming for the torches..."
Oh, guess Scylla and him are truly the same
holy shit I never even realized that, wtf
Damn, that's true
Ares: "I gotta hand it to you Athena, you were right"
this made me laugh so hard
Ares *whistling*: Not bad, your boy is kind of cool, ngl
"You want more bloodshed then set him free
To get back to his homestead he'll make everybody bleed"
Athena is chanting in the back of my mind
I realized there's double meaning with the inclusion of "If I fight these monsters, is it you'll I'll find?"
Telemachus originally wanted to go out and fight monsters in the hopes he would find his missing father among them, fighting them.
Little did he know his father is now among them because he IS one of them, only he is now the monster.
Wait! He aims for the torches...
Just like Scylla...
Now THAT is ruthlessness!
OMG I was just about to write this exact comment.. chills, literal chills down my spine when I realized that
" We are the same you and I... " Guess it was true!
“I see your palace covered in red, faces of men who had long believed you’re dead, I see your wife with a man who is haunting, a man with a trail of bodies.”
"WHO?!"
@@EmmaLemoni-p1p I see the song of past romanse
@@weronikao8270I see the sacrifice of man!
“You know boys, all this time I’ve been agonizing over throwing away my humanity and becoming a monster and if I had the will or not. But here I find you all plotting to kill my son and brutalize my wife and suddenly it’s the easiest decision I’ve had to make through this whole damned voyage.”
"If I fight these monsters, is it you I'll find?" I'M GONA CRY
I had to! It was too good of a call back to that line to pass up
It's insane how, for the suitors, Odysseus is their Scylla ("he's aiming for the torches!"). I mean, from an outsider perspective, he is the stuff of nightmares - a battle-hardened, cunning warrior, trained by a goddess, who refuses to die even in the face of gods and monsters. He's suffered and sacrificed so much in order to get back to his family and kingdom, and YOU are the only thing left in his way? BOY.
"You don't think I know my own palace? I built it" F'ing COLD
I absolutely love love love that line in the song!
I love that line too 🤣👏it really was just 🤌🤯
The quiet shock turning to anger at the offense is gold!
I just realized something. "He's aiming for the torches". It's not the first time he used torches to kill. it's like Scylla where Odysseus used the 6 torches to give to the men for Scylla to kill
6 torches to save his life, just to snuff every single one in his way...
"You don't think I know my own palace, I built it!" is a very good line and I love it
I'm obsessed how the chorus is chanting "Odysseus" like they were with the name of the gods in past songs, now Odysseus isn't in danger anymore, HE IS THE DANGER
Yep! Exactly!
Nah, its not the gods. Its like Polyphemus in Survive. He has become the monster. In the official live streams, they even subtitle the chanting of Polyphemus's name the first time it happens.
0:15 I hope the suitor keeps his accent because it shows how people from all over came to Ithaka,not because it’s a great kingdom(It really isn’t there’s nothing but hills and goats) but because everyone wants a taste of the beauty that is Penelope.
I thought it was more to acquire power as being the king of Ithaca
Its both
I hope it stays because random french suitor is my literal favorite character
IKR THE ACCENT IS JUST PERFECT
Penelope was the cousin of Helen, who was the QUEEN OF SPARTA at this point, so being married to her would also have its perks in that respect
After hearing the "Hold Them Down" snippets I gotta say these guys deserve every SECOND of what Ody is going to do to them.
"He's aiming for the torches!"
He truly has become the same as Scylla.. a monster.
He is a different beast now. A man made monster. Targeting the light of the torches, killing without regrets like the cyclops.
yes
And the polyphemus reprise plays
@@Zushi_Tsunami you could say, ruthlessness is mercy upon himself
JORGE IS THE WORST /pos SCYLLA SAYING “You’re the same, you and I” WHILE SHE WAS ATTACKING MEN WITH TORCHES AND NOW THE SUITORS SAYING “Keep your heads down he’s aiming for the torches!” AHHHHH
OH LORD THE PARALLELS! THE PARALLELS!!
I said this in the livestream I made hahahah
I was about to write a whole paragraph about this because I thought you were hating😭 my bad
"Keep your head down, he's aiming for the torches!"
Literally the first two people he killed were holding torches! Great detail, Gwendy!
aiming for the torches is also how scylla devoured his crew which is the same song where scylla says they're one in the same
"you don't think I know my own palace? I built it." goes hard
@@charksie.20 ikr?!
I love how Odysseyus learns and uses something from every challenge he hides the weapons so they can't get the upper hand like polyphemus he makes sure to fight him in his own terrain like poesidon so there helpless he pretended to be an old man an deceives them like circe and the sirens and ofc he aims for the torches like scylla
Great points of observation! Bravo! 😁
Because he is the greatest monster of them all. I am honestly unsure what the moral of the story even is, Ulysses is very unlikeable in the whole opera.
I agree, and normally I like stories with hero’s, but I don’t think there’s a moral we’re directly being told here. it’s a tragedy. A villain/monster origin story. You’re supposed to /think/ about the questions. Did he ever have a choice between blood and blood? Who’s mistakes are the worst?
This is a man BEYOND done with everyone's bullshit. He doesn't give a fuck anymore and is there to get shit done.
"Keep your head down he's aiming for the torches." He really is just like Scylla. Ody and Scylla, platonic soulmates forever.
“We are the same you and…I…” and Odysseus took it seriously
@@bpsara Yes.
I just watched the Wisdom saga and after listening to "Legendary" and "Fight little wolf" I had to see those lowlifes go to the underworld by the hands of Odysseus. I can already feel how angry I'm going to get during (probably) the next saga when I listen to "Hold her/him down" part.
I love how in legendary we have „Where is he, where is the man who you’ll have wife. where is he, where is the man, with whom you’ll spend your life.“
And here we have the terrified „where is he“ (as in where is he hiding)
spoilers, or well, somewhat i guess
from what i can find (through wiki), and what storywise makes sense through snippets jay has given
next saga would be vengeance, focusing much more on Odysseus heading home
Hold him down is during The Ithaca saga, portraying the Suitors plan to attack Telemachus when he comes home, also being Song 37, leading right up to the utter enjoyment the full version of this will bring
"You don't think I know my own palace. I built it."
Hits so good.
"I see your palace covered in red
Faces of men who had long believed you're dead
I see your wife with a man who is haunting
A man with a trail of bodies" hits different after this
A 40 year old man who’s done nothing but fight and survive for 20 years
Not just against professional soldiers in the largest war ever known to the greeks at this point, but also against monsters and gods. When you've survived Poseidon and Zeus's wrath, a bunch of soft spoiled nobles' sons are nothing.
@@magmat0585 The suitors after see the storm and hearing one of THE THREE scream in pain: "yeah we can take him"
"If I fight this monster is it you I'll find?" here, we see Telemachus questioning if he wants to be like his father
The damned audacity to say they can use their knowledge of his home. After what they were planning, they deserved the monster. Like that’s just a damned insult after all this man has been through.
similar to what the siren did to Odyessus using the face of his wife to lure him into the water, these men tried to "we know these halls" forgetting ODY BUILT IT
he may have been away a LONG time but ODY is a WAR GENERAL
0:15 Odysseus can be seen as they walk past and that is terrifying
Happy you think so! That's the effect I was going for! :D
Who else is ready for this to be a full song instead of just this amazing snippet
ME 🗣️🗣️
@@Kevin_Theadore1yeah brother
Nahhhh Ody dragging the guy into the darkness is something straight out of a horror movie.
I love how in the background them chanting odyseus is in the same way they were chanting Polyphemus in the start
This was absolutely amazing and i loved how you kept Odysseus hidden in the shadows and all we saw was his silhouette running around until he is revealed in the center 👏
Thank you! I kinda took inspiration from Jaws, where we don't get to see the "predator/hunter" until halfway through the movie. Happy you enjoyed it!
And that line of "you dont think i know my own Palouse I built it!" Was amazing!!@@ns2dstudios
@ns2dstudios can I get some context as to who these victims are
@@Lord_megatron-b8b mostly nameless suitors of Penelope's but one of named suitors, Anphinomus is featured at the end. He was one of the more decent ones in the myth and convinced the others not to kill Telemachus. Odysseus tried to tell him to escape but he chose to stay and ultimately died.
@@Lord_megatron-b8b thank you ❤️
”You don’t think I know my own palace I built it” is one of the best lines I’ve ever heard
Welp that’s one way to meet your father
The suitors are so fucked when Ody comes to know what they've been trying to do to Penelope and Telemachus. I can't wait to see it.
"You don't think I know my own palace? I built it!" such a hard line.
Totally!
I can't wait to hear this song's finished concept soundtrack.
Same, deadass this is the song I'm looking forward to the most
Same. I also can't wait to see everyone's reactions to it- Mortius and Casper are going to lose it.
"You don't think I know my own palace? I built it!" RAAAAA
man that aiming for the torches line has a whole new meaning after thunder saga. poor ody still feels bad about what he's done.
i love how "keep your head down he's aiming for the torches" is a reference ti Scylla and how she was aiming for the men with torches.
I would like to point out that Odysseus attacking the me. Who holds the torch is the exact same way how Scylla attack his men. Love the detail!
"I see your palace covered in red" 😮 the prophecy
"I see your wife with a man who is haunting. A man with a trail of bodies" that was *definitely* odysseus
& from the same song
“Siren Song
Scylla Throat
Mutiny
Lightning Bolt
???Run from Poseidon???
???Kill all the suitors for love???
“You don’t think I know my own palace? I built it!”
Now that is a raw line.
Favorite part of the song is "Keep your heads down, he's aiming for the torches!" Bc thats exactly what Scylla did to his men in the darkness of her lair ❤
I noticed that! I also think that the way it's sung is very similar to another song, but I can't place it.
I feel that Odysseus uses all the he has learned on his long journey. There's one version of the story, by Tony Robinson called 'Greatest Hero of them All' and when Odysseus comes home and wins the archery contests and reveals to the suitors who he is, while most panic, one, a distant cousin, makes a contrite apology, and approached Odysseus with his hand out, asking for forgiveness and mercy. (but secretly the suitor has concealed a knife in his other hand and plans to stab Odysseus once he's close enough.
But Odysseus says 'Ruthlessness is mercy upon ourselves."
Shoots the suitor dead where he stands, and as his hidden blade tinkles to the floor he looks upon the other cowering suitors, notches another arrow to his bow and asks:
"Any last words?"
@@matthewgarcia1005 hmm, I didn't notice I'll have to give another listen 🤓 just really enjoy how dark and elegant this story is at the same time, and Epic is doing an incredible job of telling it.
@@dromankass8655 I did not know about that but it sounds like an amazing read. Hail the reigning King of Ithaca 😭
"we are the same you and i"
And Odysseus is using his bow likely after completing Penelopes challenge (which has a crazy draw weight or something)
So the suitors are basically being shot with something comparable to a ballista instead of a bow
@@pandoratheclay either a crazy Draw weight, or its a different type of bow than the greek kind
@@Emily12471 man, that's like saying "aither he sent DM's with a phone or with a S.XXII device" kinda got only one option XD
@@mathwey3136 too be more specific, the theory is that its A recurve bow hence their inability to string it, and oddyseus's ease of stringing it, despite being fairly average in terms of strength
@@Emily12471 I,am not some lore master on it, but it is mythology. So i think fact odysseus can draw it is more of a part of myth like "only worthy ones can." it is not unused thrope in myths
he aimed for the torches just like Scylla 😭😭😭
“We are the same you and I~”
@@-Commit-arson- “I~”
Prophet: I see your wife with a man who is haunting, a man with a trail of bodies.😮
Odysseus:WHO?!
Me: You!
So this is what the prophet means by its no longer you
@@Spynx_gaming it wasn’t him after the song monster
More specifically, this is what he meant by "a man with a trail of bodies"
Odysseus: Bold of you to assume I don't know my own home
I BUILT IT!!!
The comparison at the end with Odysseus and Telemachus is jarring. Ody, who has lost it, and Telemachus, just as innocent as when he left.
I love the parallels between Odysseus and Scylla, here. Both concealed themselves in darkness and aimed for the torches in order to kill the men invading their home. Scylla saw him for what he was, a monster just like her.
The suitors doing a final callback to Man of the House hits different after the wisdom saga
I noticed that the trail of bodies are similar to the same bodies in the "No Longer You" video when "A trail of bodies" is mentioned by the prophet. It's a brilliant to show what's to come!
Yes! So glad you caught that because it's actually the same shot but recolored for the vision/prophecy
The parallels between Scylla eating the men with the torches and Ody aiming for the men with torches is just amazing
I just realized after listening to Scylla, and I'm not sure this was on purpose or just coincidence, but him going after the people with the torches is just like scylla who went after Odysseus' crew who had the torches. In a way he learned from his past encounter and became more monstrous.
@@kireikotomine6968 ties back to scylla singing "we are the same, you and i" so badly
Knowing Mr Jalepeno, that was completely intentional
absolutely intentional
no reason to include it without it
"He's aiming for the torches."
"Deep down you know that we are the same.." Does that remind you of something?
(Bro mb I did not know someone alr mentioned this ngl) 💀
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WHAT HOW DID I JUST NOW REALIZE THAT.
@@cami7436 💀💀💀
Scylla, from her cave: Wait, I didn't mean literally-💀
The fact that Oddyseus has his name repeated like how Polyphemos and Poseidon have proves that Oddyseus now is the one who hunt.
I really like the predator vibes. Advantages means nothing if the equivalent of batman had to fight everything with disadvantaged. He knows the art of war
And the red in his eyes as he meets his son in a green tunic. He gets snapped out of his bloodlust by the contrast, his battle mentality being stopped
Thank you! I was really going for Ody being a hunter/predator and yes, Predator (movie) was one of my inspirations along with Jaws, where we actually don't see the killer until midway through the movie.
I mean.. Ares DID get the bloodshed he was promised. Athena knew.
After watching how the suitors treated Telemachus and talking about what their plans were, I like to come back to this video for some catharticism
here we see odysseus, a man who has lost 599 men, who sent 6 to their doom knowingly, who chose the deaths of all his remaining men... a man so far gone he can hardly be called a man as opposed to the monster he now is... and you truely brought it to life!
It’s 600 under his command so yeah
Lost all but 43 to Polyphemus and Poseidon
Elpenor dies offscreen, so 42 left
Six to Scylla and the rest to Zeus
And 0 on the war the most impressive one
@@gasparg643 true
"you don't think i know my own palace, I built it" is such a raw line in that context
that is a power move
Seeing him appear in the middle of the four men made me think he crawled to that spot
It's ✨Magic✨JK actually my first draft had him running around in the rafters and dropping in in the middle of the circle but that would make too much noise so I just put him there in the middle like he was there the whole time.
0:32 - 0:50 The fact that the danger motif is played for Odysseus is amazing
@@cozero8262 I didn’t notice that
Makes sense thought this is from the prospective of the suitors
One thing I love is that in many animatics it's the one who warns the others that Oddiseas's plans for every fight that is killed. He killed the one who wasn't panicking.
I chose to have the one who was sorta cocky be killed off by Odysseus first. But most importantly, Odysseus targeted the ones carrying torches.....just like Scylla.
@@ns2dstudios Such a good callback, love it.
Thanks for sharing your art with everyone, it's awesome!
@@ns2dstudioslol.
"You don't think I know my own palace? I BUILT IT!" I love how scary Odysseus is in this song
I was definitely going for horror, with Ody as the predator/killer
"If I fight these monsters, is it you I'll find?" Gnawing at the bars of my enclosure rn
I love the sound effect they use to represent Ody using his bow
I love the detail (1:02 ) where he has a trail of blood just like the prophet saida
The fact that Telemachus is the only one who have colour-and no ordinary color, green colour! (opposite/complementary to red)
Not only does the movement of the characters felt so alive, or the fact the situation you put made so much sense here. But also the amount of detail and use of colour as lightning and highlight of the Story as a way of storytelling!? Incredible!
Thank you! Although it was mostly coincidence. Telemachus's color has been decided before I made this animatic, since I gave Ody blue, Penelope yellow, and combined, they make green (Telemachus). I like to think of it as Telemachus in green represents life amongst a sea of death (blood red). And thank you for your observations! You're the first one to point out the use of lighting and color combined so I really appreciate it that you noticed!
I can't wait for this song. It's basically just the danger motif
It took me until now to realize it, but I bet you that "he's aiming for the torches" means that they're making themselves easy targets by carrying torches around, rather than Odysseus shooting the torches to turn out the lights.
See, that's a more scary thing to imagine than Odysseus aiming for the shadows moving under the torches. They need torches to see and navigate around the palace, he doesn't, he needs the torches to spotlight his enemies. Knowing the halls doesn't even hold a candle to building the freaking palace the halls are in.
You said this 3 days ago. Have you seen the animatic for Scylla? Coz omg parallels!
@@ns2dstudios Yes! That was some *clever* storytelling! And then of course the bit with Eurylochus having a torch was spot on. I may be a tad bit obsessed with Epic... XD
So the ending with Telemachus? That's the "Legendary" instrumentation over the "Just A Man" chord progression. I'm so excited for this song.
Oh... hey, son..... want to help me take out the trash?
didn't even realize it was just a man
@@playlistnation423 I am so worried for baby telemachus... All the stories abput his father but non warned him he was a monster
That plus the “If I fight those monsters is it you I’ll find?”
@@SingingSealRiana He has to become the monster to protect his family from even greater monsters.
Man that prophet wasnt joking when he said palace covered in red
I realized that in "no longer you" he talks about Odysseus's casle being covered in red and a trail of bodys and that means its still Odysseus just that he's a monster and a killer, a killer who kills teh suiters infront ofhsson by acadent.
in no longer you’s second chorus, there’s a chanting choir that states what’s gonna happen in the future after the underworld saga. the chants go as follows : “ SI REN SONG SCY LLA THROAT MU TIN Y LIGHT NING BOLT FIGHT PO SEI DON KILL ALL THE SUI TORS FOR LOVE” these were officially recognized by jorge after the thunder saga released, with only the first four being confirmed, since he didn’t wanna spoil the next few sagas. the second two are pretty prominent though so it’s easier to make out what it says. there is another chant sesh during the stretched out “youuuuuuuu” where they chant the same way they do in this song “ODY SSE US ODY SSE US”
@@danganidot thats so cool we both noticed what was happening
@@danganidotit makes a lot of sense that he was willing to confirm that when he did. By that point, we’d already gotten past the parts of that which really qualified as spoilers, at least as far as protecting how exactly it would play out. Beyond that, the fact that this version of the story was heading towards a Poseidon showdown was both obvious and not hidden at all in the snippets we’d received over time, and the suitors getting slaughtered is just the ending of the Odyssey. It would be a pretty huge departure for that not to be expected, particularly with the clear intention of Ody’s character development to prepare him for that.
@@bellowingsilence i mean yeah, don’t shoot the messenger though, i’m just restating what jorge said himself
@@WolfieM0rningstar127 i’m sorry i can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic
Hearing Legendary in the background when Telemachus shows up is wonderful
this is the one and only time i have ever seen someone aknowledge the
"if if fight these monsters is it YOU ill find"
i thought i lost it for a few days
Welp. I guess we are safe to assume this is the trail of bodies the prophet mentioned? Ssssoooo- yay?
I see your palace covered in red~
yep, this is it~
I love how in the end u can hear the piano of legendary like the end of a cinematic movie at a dramatic ending cliffhanger.
This song is definitely gonna be THE song i would play on loop
0:14 Odysseus in the background
I just noticed it now that you pointed it out...Holy cow he is scary.
@@carlthomaswilliamsjr.2995 one could say he's become a _monster_
@@VegaTheLyra Rawr rawr rawr
@@emilygiacometti yep I expected this response lol
@@emilygiacometti This comment made me tear up with how beautiful it is.
"Warrior of the mind" is technically a synonym for "psychological warfare"
Woah- that's a good mindset
Not necessarily. Mostly just talking about being strategic rather than just attacking. But psychological warfare is not off the table.
The wrath of a father's rage. Shouldn't have tested it. Loved every second of this btw!
My best guess is Ody heard the suitors plotting nefarious things against his wife and son and it's what drove him to become a monster. Thanks for watching!
Penelope: ...
Guard: YOUR MAJESTY, THERE'S A MURDERER LOOSE!
Odysseus: ....
Penelope: ....
Guard: He's behind me, isn't he.
guard a different beast behind you
0:51 "You don't think I know my own palace? I *BUILT IT!* "
Than line was hard as a diamond!
Absolutely badass Odysseus
That was half as hard as me
"...You think I don't know my own palace? I BUILT IT!". Love the phrase and the rage.❤🔥
Just a little fun fact: the reason they make a point of saying "Our weapons- they're missing!" isn't just because they're missing normally. In the Odyssy, Athena turns their weapons aside when they try to throw spears at Odysseus and co.
I love ALL the connections in this animation. The ones I found were: scylla, the prophet, legendary
And Different Beast
THE DOUBLE BASS FROM 0:33
IT'S THE SAME INSTRUMENT THAT PLAYED FOR POLYPHEMUS WHEN HE WAS THE MONSTER TO FIGHT
OMG IT'S TRUE I HADN'T NOTICE IT 💥💥
GOOD EARS
Oh wow! I gotta listen to this again!
I love the way Odysseus is targeting the ones with the torches the same way Scylla did with his crew.
It's like she said, "We're the same you and I."
Also, the way this is animated is reminding me of the intro to "Batman: the Animated series," which feels fitting since Ody's got the prep time and is striking from the shadows.
That's because he did. The suitors basically spoke loudly about their evil plan within ear shot of Odysseus. Dude had all the time he needed before the suitors took action.
@@BladeMasterIcarus Exactly.
The prophet was right….a man makes it home but it’s no longer you