Triumph Tiger 1200 Rally Explorer: Off-Road Test & First Ride - MVDBR Enduro
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 เม.ย. 2024
- One of my awesome supporters was generous enough to lend me his 2023 Triumph Tiger 1200 Rally Explorer for the day, to do some proper off-road testing on it. This bike is a direct competitor to the current model BMW 1250 GS, but as I've not yet reviewed one of those I mostly compare it to the mighty KTM 1290 Super Adventure R. You can see my review of the 1290 here: • KTM 1290 Super Adventu...
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Dickie says he has fixed the stalling issue since then by tweaking some of the throttle & other settings on the bike like shift assist. Hopefully someday I'll get another rip on the big Tiger 👌 Thanks for watching and don't forget to like & fkn subscribe ❤
Iv’e had the pleasure of riding quite a few different bikes as well as owning more than I can remember. My latest 2 dirt bikes have been a 790r and a 890r. What I have learnt riding the bigger bikes is not to fight them. Smooth is the key in as higher gear you can. My 790 was no where near as torquey as the 890. Once you have the feel for the bigger bikes there’s a whole lot of fun with the right hand grip.
That stalling issues you had has major issues for me as it is the difference between staying up right or not. When the bike does the opposite to what you expect it can hurt. They are bloody heavy when they catch you out. Love your vids Josh, keep them coming.
Yeah it was very off-putting for me mate I wasn't too keen on tackling anything too technical with it stalling like that. Dickie reckons he might have it sorted now tho which is mint 🍻 I've not been on an 890 yet, only a quick rip on Phil's 790 and that thing was a bunch of fun 🍻 Cheers man much appreciated!
Such a joy to watch, thank you so much!
Cheers man 🍻
Hello Josh! Wow! Watching you on the Tier 1200 was fantastic...I miss having my tiger 900GT, great bikes for Touring and I had fun on the dirt roads; Thanks for sharing the test ride, your rider skills are great to see. the bike is bloody excellent. Special THANKS to the owner for allowing you to ride the bike David......Adelaide......Triumph Scrambler 1200X....one bike for all.....
Cheers mate, would love to check out the 900 one day 🍻
Well done Josh riding that big 1200! 👏 It'd be great if you got to ride the 900 rally pro, but I'm biased. I've fitted the Akrapovic, and the triple with the quick shifter is awesome. I reckon you'd like it! 👍😁
Keen to give one a try Bobby!
Great stuff Josh and big thanks to Dickie for lending out the big girl so we could get a look at it in the dirt , looks like a very competent adventuring machine !
Cheers mate yeah he's very trusting 😁🍻
You look pretty comfortable on that big green machine . Solid review, thanks for taking us along . Cheers 🍻
Hard not to be comfy on that luxy seat hehe, cheers ears 😎
Great review Josh, cheers to Dickie for the review rocket, Surperb looking bike with the goods. Most issues can be sorted with ride time and fine tuning to suit. It looked a bit more nimble on the tighter tracks which is a good thing from the footage. Stanthorpe in July- turn the heaters on, nice. Technology is here, as we all know when the tech shits itself or the 3 button sequence has not been entered as per manual, well all you want is old school. Once again great review and great bike, many adventures to be had on that Tiger. Bring on the reviews ADVenture riders, Loan, like, share, subscribe. 🤙🍺.
Heheh loan like share subscribe, new channel motto Andy 😅 My low-tech 690 is giving me enough technical issues at the moment, fucking electrics are the worst 😭
Great Review Josh!!! Nice Bike!!!
Thank you sir 🍻
1200 brother, that is BEAST!
There he is, thanks for stopping by chief! You'll have to tell me your first name sometime man 😎
I've got a '23 Rally Explorer. It stalled on me once, while slowing down into 1st gear, before a stop sign. That was at 600 kms. It's had a couple of firmware updates along the way and hasn't done it since. Nearly 10,000 kms now.
The rear wheel isn't very hard to re & re at all. I've ripped a couple of tires on sharp rocks so I've removed it (trail side) a couple of times to shove a tube in to get me home.
Woh Josh, great ride! 😎👍 point and fire! 👍
Cheers dude 🍻
Beast of a bike Josh, great review. Man, I would love to have cruise control and maybe a quick shifter. Cheers 🍻🍻
Cruise control = fkn mint. Quick shifter I could take or leave 😁 Thanks Mike!
Good on you for tackling that route on a big beast. Friend of mine had the Explorer and full of gas I struggled to get it off the sidestand😬. Too much bike for this feeble soul.
30L is a fairly decent chunk of fuel! Good thing to have if you can keep it upright lol, cheers mate 🍻
My africa twin would stall like that and was really annoying jerky from the bottom of the rpms. I installed a thing called "booster plug" that fools the intake air sensor into thinking it's colder than it is, making it richin up the mixture. It was a lot cheaper than getting a tuner or ecu at the time and it worked. Not sure they still sell them though or for which other bikes.
It's great when people come up with solutions like that 🤘 thanks for sharing, cheers
A Tiger 1200, didn’t see that coming. You do keep the channel interesting. 🧐
I certainly didn't expect to see a bloke younger than me owning it! Hehe cheers mate 🤘
Hopper would like to remind you, it is actually 16 horses 🐎 of pure Joy! 😅 Cheers Bro, 🍻 Great Ride 👍
Sorry Juddy that was a cheap shot, least ole Hopper is still fuckin pluggin unlike this damn orange lemon 😅 Thanks for tuning in cob, looking forward to sharing the drone finale video hehe 🍻
About time you started doing rider evaluations, you have the skills, you now have the time trial test track.. Now start doing test bikes.. It woulod be great comtemt.. you have the honesty to tell people what they need to know. Please get on the Aprilia 660, Ducati, CRF450L, CRF300, SWM RS500 Adventure modded, CRFMoto 450/850, Himalayan 450... There must be dealers who will let you take it for a rip..
i love my tiger it is the second i have owned. I agree with the under sprung suspension what bike manufacture doesnt under spring there bike. Ozzy guys arent exactly light weight. first thing i do when i get a new bike is uprate the suspension just a given. Hey love the channel keep it up. ps the wheel isnt that hard to get off
Oi I'm only 75kg 😅😜 You're right tho most are undersprung, and I've not ridden a lot of stock adv bikes but my T7 was definitely better suspended than the Tiger right out of the box. But of course, the 2 bikes are aimed at different users and also the weight difference is significant 👍 Thanks brother appreciate the comment 🍻
Nice video like always! I recently bought a ktm 950 adventure s as my first adventure bike have you ever been on a 950/990? If so what are your thoughts about them? im not as good as you offroad not even by a long shot but i think they are great fun seem fairly easy to maintain and no real electronics.
I don't think I've actually ever ridden one but my mate has one and loves it ( th-cam.com/video/J6Du4xMUqso/w-d-xo.html ) and I've ridden with a couple of maddogs on 950 Super Enduros back in the day, those things are fkn mental ( th-cam.com/video/7TBS-bHWbQw/w-d-xo.html ) Yeah they seem like solid bikes although Dougie's 950 Adv has an oil leak or something at the moment, but shit can happen to any bike really. Cheers for the comment bro
That’s a big heavy beast to take off road but I guess if you’re strong enough anything is possible. I took my GSA off-road a few times but I always struggled to pick it up which prompted me to get my 701 and I’ve never regretted that decision. As good as the GSA was I’ve found the 701 ticks all the boxes for me.
Somebody commented down below about not taking shaft driven bikes off-road, personally I can’t see what difference that makes. 👍
Yeah not being able to easily adjust the gearing with sprocket changes is really the only downside that I could see, but this bike has really good gearing anyway for both on and off-road 🤷♂ Cheers yeah I'm really liking the lighter bike atm as well 🤘
Hey Josh, great vid mate, did you consider that the sensation of the rear end bottoming out may have had something to do with the centre stand? The clunking of the stand can give the impression that the suspension is at the end of travel when its not.
Gooday Phil, certainly worth considering but my jarred back a couple times when I was sitting and should have been standing would back the claim that it was bottoming out 😬 Hope the 501 is treating you well mate 💪
It's most definitely the suspension. Forks and springs slamming down have a very different feel than the comparatively gentle thud of the center stand. The spring on the side stand on these bikes is quite weak too. When it gets rough enough, I can hear both stands clattering underneath me.
Excellent workout for the big bike Josh!
Like you said, these bikes are high mile munchers that would be great for taking around Australia, Europe, or the US.
Yeah only silly people take them into the rough 😁 Cheers mate
@@MVDBR hahahaha, oh yeah we do it but I gotta say it's better in the rough on a proper lightweight enduro style bike, like your 690.
My AT stalls like that on obstacles, mainly logs, if the traction control is turned up too much.
Yeah bit annoying, I didn't have any MTC on but Dickie reckons the shift assist might be the culprit 🤘
Awesome to be loaned such a cool bike. I'd not have a distance bike without cruise control again, should be fitted to every bike over 500cc
I bet the stalling is the sidestand switch, if it bounces on bumps it cuts the engine as it thinks the stand is down.
Yeah good point mate I never even thought of that, however it looks like it's a documented issue with this model and the new firing order of the engine. Supposedly going to be fixed with a 1kg heavier flywheel weight in the new version 😬 That's what I read somewhere anyway, ah the internet, who wouldn't trust it!
@@MVDBR 😀
It's actually a fuel mapping issue. Mine did it on the street once. If the bike's firmware has been updated properly, it shouldn't be doing that. Mine did that once on the street when new and hasn't done it in the last 10,000 kms.
I'll stick with my 900 Rally Pro.No stalling and better suspension as well as being lighter.Thanks.
Keen to have a ride on one Brucey, you wanna loan her to me? 😬😅
@@MVDBR If you collect?Jhb-SA??
What an amazing sounding bike!! It actually sounds like a tiger haha.
That cutting out seems to happen when it hits hard at low speed. I wonder if the crash cut out is coming on too soon?
DC reckons he's got it sorted now by changing a few settings, thinks maybe it was the shift assist. Yeah it's definitely a unique sounding bike, he tells me they changed the firing order on this model 😎 Cheers Daniel 🍻
@MVDBR Hey Jeff, yeh, it's called a T plane firing order, apparently gets better traction in dirt. Believe it or not I'm not a big fan of the sound of triples even tho I own two of them. I think I'd lose my license pretty fast if I owned one of those beastly sounding animals. Oh BTW Jimmy I got meself an old mans DCT AT. It's very different but I do like it. Can't go past those tri colour Africa Twins for good looks, even BMW copied it. I guess when Yamaha and KTM get real they'll do a tri colour too. Anyway Jayden i hope you still enjoy keeping dem kewl vids a'comin coz Maz and I still look forward to every one of em.
@@deeemac DCT! Oh deary me I'll have to start using female names that start with D, Dolores 😘 That's good mate glad you guys still enjoy the shonky vids. I may be homeless soon but I'll do what I can to keep the vids coming 🍻
@MVDBR holy begeebuz that's very no good. I hope it all works out for you. Shonky vids are first rate mate. Ill soon be known as Wobbly Donna and her DCT 🤣
Just asking, why dont you rev the bike higher? Like when you went on the asphalt u were shifting very low but the power is way higher plus the sound is pretty awesome above 5 grand?
a) I don't know what I'm doing
b) it's a friend's bike and I don't want to thrash it
or c) I'm used to a more low-down torquey bike
🤷♂️ take your pick 😁 (probably (a))
Great video Josh! Ill get that suspension, tune and exhuast and you will have to go out again! Haha
Keen bro, thanks again for trusting me with the big rig! 💪💪
Great little review Josh, I would agree ktm 1290 is my choice, but either are out of my price range 😢
Lol same here mate, wayyyyy out of mine 🍻 cheers
I want to see ya do that loop on a wr 250cc
Happy to if I get the opportunity 🤙
Great review, flame out's are the worse think on a dirt bike, dangerous in fact !! Sometimes he only fix is an aftermarket ECU at stupid $$$
Yeah not wrong mate, not just annoying but dangerous at times, and definitely confidence shaking which in itself can be dangerous 😬 Cheers
I would have checked that pre-load. I have the same bike and have not bottomed out yet as far as I know. Apparently for offroad you are supposed to make it as stiff as it will go.
Yeah I wasn't sure how to check that but Dickie did show me it was maxed out on that setting the day before I rode it 🤷♂
@MVDBR It's strange. The Big Rock moto guy also complained about bottoming out, and yet I have seen some guys doing ridiculous jumps on them with no issues.
@@ADV-Rider-Dude got me beat man, I would say it's my fat arse but the Tiger should be able to handle a 75kg Aussie beefcake 😅
Haha. You're lighter than me mate. Im 81, down from 86 last year and I'm hoping to get to 75 like you soon.
There is no preload adjustment on that suspension, only damping. Preload is pre programmed for each rider mode, with the rider's weight factored in. It's definitely an under sprung bike (like so many are) and mine will bottom out when I get too aggressive with it. Many people that take these off road experience this. I'm not sure how you're not, but I wish I could say the same.
I certainly know what it's like for the bike to just stall, (flame out) the CRF450's are renowned for it, even tho I have a Vortex & FMF pipe, it still does it, and generally at the most inopportune times :(
It really messes with your mind, when contemplating a bit of a rough uphill.
You'd have to be pretty annoyed that your $35K ride does it, too :(
Yeah mate I think the 500 was prone to it a bit as well before I got the ECU mapped, definitely can ruin a ride when it causes you to dump the bike on the ground more than you normally would. And those 260kg behemoths are hard to stop once they start going down 😭
FFS keep it shiny side up fella
I tried my man, I really did 😭
sure it purrs like a tiger too
Showa not shower shocks
😅 righto
shaft drive off road bad.
Lol, why would a sealed system that isn't affected by sand, water etc be bad offroad? Care to elaborate?
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@@krazed0451 gearing for starters
@@stuartdeane9618 You mean the inability to adjust gearing? Only a real issue if not considered during manufacture, but I tend to like high gearing in any case, that's what the clutch is for!
If that's the worst complaint you can come up with, sounds like a non-issue to me.
Shaft drive off road good. That was one of the key selling points for me with this bike.