Attempting HOT SPINNING on my LATHE!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- Taking steel and heating it up while spinning on my metal lathe. Once its heated up I use special tools to forge/shape it while its spinning at 100 rpm. Its a bit sketchy and dangerous but I hope you enjoy this video!
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Hottery; it's like pottery, but with hot metal
Harry Pottery
As long as it doesn't turn into Thottery :P
Poetry without words
Yesssss I like it
Seen been or shaun baun....
Me watching the spinning and the double-sided torches: Well this looks fucking safe.
Nobody ever has had any fun nor pioneered any new processes being safe.
Safe enough...
@@420Chameleon that's the spirit
The most unsafe thing is using long sleeves near a lathe.
@@nejiniisan1265 Yeah, but that's counteracted by the fact that it's orange hot, so the sleeves would probably get burnt through before they could get caught.
Is it just me or does this look like a lot could go wrong very quickly
imagine it starts melting and just spews molten metal all over everything
This might have been what they said about glassblowing before "techniques" were mastered. And plenty goes wrong with lathe anything these days.
Depends on how fast he sets the lathe!
*DAMASCUS*
It can
It definitely has a wok of potential :P
Best dad joke of the day.
@@jmiknuk thank you! I do enjoy making puns.
It sounds more like he'll need to wok on it. But it looks like he won't wok away from the job.
:(
I hope the guy above me has a wonderful day ^w^
You could mod a large lathe capable of taking the heat with a custom built induction heater that can either heat the entire plate or specific areas.
An induction coil would work well
Good luck supplying an induction heater that big enough energy to heat everything up
Ive picked up monster sized clunkers for the price of scrap metal at auctions . Last one was $900 running . But you gotta have a back yard shop with a 600 amp three-phase service .
@@paulbains9152 yeah... 600 amps sounds like a punch to the electric bill
BREAKING NEWS: "Florida man learns fire bending"
Having a lathe throw out your work is one thing, but when your work is also several hundred degrees... well......
Guy had a friend over late one night at his apartment. His friend saw a large metal bowl on the coffee table. He asked "what's that?" Guy said it's his time telling bowl. He could see his friend was confused so he demonstrated. He took a mallet and whacked the bowl giving off a loud ring. Right afterwards a neighbor shouted "don't you know it's midnight?!"
Reminds me of the old electronic bells from fire houses or old schools. Now all you need is an electronic double clapper and another plate.
The ClapperCaper by Johnny Carson.
Hi Tim, just and idea in case you haven't already thought of it. You could quite easily air cool the live centre using a line from your air compressor, save burning the things up!
They’re literally tuned for the classic clock song. You just need one more
turning brass and copper would probably mean the material moves a lot quicker, also be worth a pretty penny. Would love to see that. Could maybe get a lot deeper? Rad video, thanks for sharing
yo dude never reach over a lathe like that. EVER!
It's just an arm!, he can grow another, like geez
@@TvshkaHumma your arm dousnt just come off leaving you standing there...
Entire body gets wrapped around it and turned into a whip..
@@ryanwatterson4038 it has that much torque ?! Do people actually die ?
@@ArthA122 yeah some of the most horrific deaths you can suffer.. It has torque enough to turn you to chunks..
Respect lathes of all sizes with out guards. They will rip you apart if you're pulled in
I don't know much about lathes but that tailstock looks way over extended
Half fill them with water and run that wooden tool around the edges.
Should do it with brass, I’m sure you could go a lot deeper.
thats what she said?
You know how sick one of those would look made out of Damascus steel
i agree and/or Mokume Gane that would be amazing to see.
I subscribed just to eventually see this idea sometime in the future.
Fully sick?
Coop with Alec Steele?
I love these projects but i have to know how the F do you work in such a dark workspace? it blows my mind that you come out with all these quality jobs in the dark.
The lighting for filming is always brighter than the amount of light needed to safely work, the human eye has a great capacity for relative lowlight. And forging work had an inherent need for more dim lighting conditions too. Also, often significant UV filters are needed to protect camera sensors from the the spectrum put off from map torches and hot metal becoming incandescent.
In the less light situation in this case is good he can see where the heat is in the bowl.
Can always just replace the bearing in live centers, at least as far as I've seen
@TisMatt To save fourty bucks?
Love it when a blacksmith says he's a bit rusty 😁
9:50
If you’ve got a fair bit of experience with electrical work, you should look into setting up a magnetic induction heater coil.
Long sleeves, gloves and lathes don't mix,
Even at 100rpm it is capable of wrapping you around the stock.
Please be safe.
Couldn't the late be equipped with a dead man switch like attached to your feet and a sacrificial brake ?
@@ArthA122 maybe, but by the time your feet come off the ground your arms probally bent 360 degrees already.
Which last I checked is bad if you aren't a Wacky Waving Inflatable Tube Guy.
But it does beat dead.
@Rem Max ouch, I'm glad you didn't lose digits though.
Yeah, short sleeves and no gloves is better, the splinters are a small price to pay
@@ArthA122 By the time that kicks in youre already spooled up like a cable
Need to make a planetary gear live end. So the grease keeps it cool. Maybe have a hole thru the planetary gear live end for coolent.
Maybe if you make the tailstock rod end longer with off set holes drilled to dissipate heat faster or a thick walled pipe with holes drilled and rod ends welded. Would help your tailstock live much longer. Same for the chuck side.
Good save Tim! When the live center gave out and it started falling, I yelled at my phone lol
I've had a fascination with metal spinning for years. I never once imagined adding heat. That's why you have the TH-cam channel and I don't.
Polish the interior of those bowls to mirrors and you could have a convex mirror... if its shaped right, and polished well you might be able to get a pretty confined beam of light out of it.
And this...Is how Cymbals are made! xD
Cool concept. Please put an estop on the front of the machine!
The deep bowl looks amazing
So awesome! And they look fantastic!
Interesting. I taught myself to spin copper. (600 hours/ 1800square feet of cooper sheeting; 22 gauge and 19 gauge) to develop technique to spin out a 3 1/2" diameter by 5 3/4" tall cup. i learned to spin other pieces out as i worked to getting that "eureka cup" (use it for a liner in a wood cup). definitely gets more difficult the larger you go. There are of course videos available showing spinning but it wasn't until i got to the eureka cup that in now see all the little intricacies involved. Gutsy job
After you hit them with the piece of wood it made me think of a monster bell for drums. I wonder if it would sound good/bad when playing a full kit with those as the ride or accent bell.
Watching your tail stock wobble was giving me some serious anxiety. Would it be possible for you to put a spherical roller bearing on the pipe and add a housing for it closer to the metal plate so it wouldn't get pushed off center as you're shaping the bowl? Other thought I had was you might be able to coat the first foot or so of the pipes holding the plates with a layer of silicon to act as a compact heat shield. I know it'd burn from direct contact with the torch flames, but it might be able to survive the indirect heat from the plate.
Me as a cutting machine operater was crying seeing this video
Really loved this video. Killer job dude
4:10 the live center started to wok
I once got to see this done with titanium in a spun piece that was four feet in diameter. It was very interesting. I wish it was possible to back there and visit that place again . The equipment was huge there were stairs and a platform.
Dont tell him that , he'll start cranking out flying saucer halves , and wire-feed them together .
Please! Damascus Shield/Bowl. The people need and demand it 😂 so cool!
Tim could you make a pointed builders long handle shovel? not those square child's shovel. irish style, a right shovel. A shovel would be just as valuable to a construction worker or tradesman as an axe is to a woodsman. A man would sure love to look at it in the shed, too unique and precious to get it dirty!
maybe you could try setting up just a drip on your live center with a bucket an a small pump an see if you keep it from over heating it with out having to invest in a lot.
You maybe want to try with softer metals, thinner plates, less heat and a negative to lean to, kinda like they make hithats and other music plates
Tim, do you have room for a steady rest on the pipe between your live center and the bowl?
the tooling geometry is super interesting! extend and push!
Bet you could make a real cool hand pan using this method.... A Damascus one would really awesome! 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Is that a stankoimport 1k62 lathe? In Canada? Cool! Aren't you worried about cocking the headstock bearings? Cool channel you have here keep up the good work!
Thought you were making bowls until the end. Didn't realize your were making bells! They sound good.
would love to do that to pipe and try to make vase out of it
Hey, so crazy idea. You've got a fast moving metal object, you could try some powerful magnets and heat it through induction.
Wait a f****ng second that ... actually makes sense. I've got a lathe. I've got magnets. I don't know if I have an appropriate piece of steel stock and I think I'll need to buy an IR thermometer to get any useful temperature readings so I probably need a few days, but I'm gonna try this and post my results some time before the end of the week.
Calling it now: I don't think there's any way I'm gonna get the metal anywhere near glowing heat no matter how thin it is, but I still love this idea even if it turns out that I can't use it for any practical application. I've used lathes for many things before, but I think this'll be the first time I've used a lathe for science.
@@curiouskarl5485 for science! I think your gonna need some beefy magnets but I would love to see if it's possible
@@davidwelsh2692 Welp I done did it, and the results were highly entertaining: the metal actually got colder. Yep ... air cooling. Ran the experiment at 400 RPM, 1000, and 2000, and at every speed the effect of air cooling was stronger than any heating effect from the magnets. Full details as follows:
I found a 7 inch diameter lid from a cookie tin (it's ferrous, I checked), punched a hole in the center, and mounted it to the spindle via the through-hole. I made a medium-ish stack of neodymium magnets, and I don't really know how magnets are rated but I would estimate that if you put this stack in contact with a steel surface and pulled perpendicular to the surface, it would take maybe 20 pounds of force to separate the stack from the surface. I taped the magnet stack to a piece of wood which I clamped to the lathe carriage for positioning control, and positioned the stack of magnets as close as possible to the outside edge of the metal lid. Ran the lathe at various speeds, checking the lid's temperature regularly with an IR thermometer, letting it return to near room temperature between runs.
I do have one much stronger magnet (gotta be close to 100 pounds pull force) but it's like, way too strong to use without making a whole custom wooden mounting rig and even then I really don't want to risk getting shattered neodymium all over my lathe because, safety concerns aside, that debris would be near impossible to remove and extremely bad for the lathe itself. The stronger magnet would surely have a stronger heating effect, and a thicker piece of metal would probably be less affected by air-cooling, but I'm satisfied with these results for now. Bottom line I'm still pretty sure it's POSSIBLE to heat metal with magnets on a lathe, but as to whether it's PRACTICAL ... definitely not at the scale of my little garage shop.
@@curiouskarl5485 well darn. Thanks for trying and thanks for the detailed comment. I wish I could try this myself and play around with pole alignment and stuff like that. As I said crazy idea, plausible, probably not practical
@@davidwelsh2692 Oh, right, pole alignment was tangent to the circumference. Didn't try any other orientations. But yeah thanks for the crazy idea, definitely kept me entertained for a few hours.
Show me a video of you drumming them cymbals.
Great base for a mic stand or a floor lamp.
So cool the live center with some oil.
Honestly, I love your enthusiasm and your creativity, but for the love of god take more time to think about workplace safety and things that might go wrong. 4:22 could have easily killed you and everyone around you. Risking your own life is one thing but you just risked the lives of people who trusted your judgement.
geez overdramatizzzzzzzeee much? OR, it will stop spinning and fall to the side..... like it did....
@@kwasg3 or you know worst case scenario and make sure you follow any safety protocols because it only takes things going wrong once to kill people.
They sound amazing.
Cool project, but bro!! NEVER EVER wear Gloves while Turning
singlehandedly manufactures Captain America's fictional shield in real life.....states he's just starting out.....
I wonder...
If the proper tools and such were made to fit the lathe, could a Damascus vase be made?
Were gunna need a Damascus version k thanks 😂
You could make your own line of cookware...or just shields 🛡..
this is the same method space X uses to make the bell nozzles for their merlin engines.
the musical potential is very exciting.
Very cool idea, a great mind at work..
P.s.
Are you hiding something in the dark recesses of your work shop, that or you eat a lot of carrots lol
I don't do any kind of work in this field, but I'm wondering if the small wheel off of an English wheel wouldn't be better suited for pressing against the metal, as it wouldn't result in scraping the metal.
Interesting stuff... It looks like a zen bowl or make a pan drum welding two together 😎
Some active cooling like a cooling fluid on the shafts could be helpful. As long as the steam wasn’t toxic; have to be the right one...
Is it just me or were those bowls nearly in tune in one octane steps?
Almost. The smallest one was a bit off
@@jnnerantzau6061 Yeah nearly, I heard the harmonic interference. if he didn't plan that or math the sizes out, that's pretty lucky and close lol.
Use water filling them to the correct point will tune them
Just got a fire extinguisher add. Makes sense lol. 😂
1:44 Poor pipe, it's doing a good job! let's hope it cheers up!
That is one of the coolest things I've seen - well except for you're other cool videos LOL! Do you think you could make a brass cymbal this way? I don't know how much of a secret Zildjian's family recipe is...
Happy New year's Tim hopefully you have a great year this year. Tim very creative and unique video this week. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Forge on God bless
Very interesting. Hopefully you can get deeper into this, this year in 2021.
Put a handle on it that would make a super cool wok!
Super cool process. I have a woodturning background and I will just be this is as much fun. We have a company that makes musical cymbals for bands. it is a similar process. Thanks for sharing it with us. Great job....
It’s a conundrum your channel isn’t a million sub channel!! Love all your videos!
You're looking at a hydraulic setup.
This would be the build of 2021.✌
Most unique and commercially viable maker project I've seen in a while.
OMG, Its a soviet 1K62 lathe. Hello from Russia)
Really nice lathe, got one in my shop too, sadly its worn pretty bad. But still a pleasure to work with it!
I like the idea are you trying to make a drum set cause that would be 😎
You should get Jason from fireball tools to make you a special hot spinning lathe.
And make it into a series obviously :)
Heyya from the Netherlands 🇳🇱 where its currently 1:30 in the morning.
Edit: omg thx for the heart, loved ur titanium knife videos/serie btw! Keep up the work
If you've ever wondered what glassblowing is like, this is as close as you can get with metal
Definitely a cool process to watch!
Cool project. Even normal metal spinning is pretty tough I've heard so using thick hot steel is quite a thing!
blacksmith's potter lol thats awesome!
Hey why not have an air compressor blowing air on your live center or even up the line closer to the bowl to keep the heat back from the lathe?
1. Thats awesome.
2. You need better lighting in your work area man.
You ever think of trying heavy magnetics to hold is that possible??
Krillin: Destructo Disc!
5:27 - That's what she said
Neat sinks!
Oooh, I want a wok made like this!
It’s all fun and games until the steel melts
I'd be interested in this project. I am a scientific glassblower with bigger torches than what you have. Definitely a lathe wrecker, I'm really looking at getting into metal spinning for other endeavors of cones, cylinders and more spheres. Glassblowing, spheres are easier and way faster but no pressure.
I get why this method is useful, but the idea of hot spinning metal on a lathe scares me.
get to work
Come on Tim put some lights in your backsmith shop
He reminds me of the Traveler from star trek tng
Don't give up on this machine, you've got some good ideas
Would that be how they used to make circular plough blades?
this is a interesting video and watching you create and alter the way you do things is great.
I wish you the best in your project.
One thing I saw and I'm no expert or even close.
The tool you're using to shape the metal has a round flattened wheel on it.
IS that not supposed to be turning? as all the other spinning video that I've seen the wheel is clean and it turns.
yours is worn badly and dragging. .... Just a comment as you're using heat so you can't use oil to lubricate the plate and a wheel would really help>?
As I said just a thought.
Good luck with your project and wish you well.
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